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SPEED / The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down (Guest: Chris Morson)
Friend, collaborator, co-conspirator, fantasy football foe, and human dynamo Christopher Morson blazes through the rest of our TRUCK MONTH here on The Review Review with "SPEED“ (d. De Bont 1994). Starring: Keanu Reeves, Sandra Bullock, and Dennis Hopper. Outside of realllllly wanting to see your commitment to Sparkle Motion®️, all we have ever wanted to make you do is jump jump. Review Review wanna make you jump jump. Our SPEED episode will make you jump jump, and we are damn proud of that. 9/2!
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We're going to figure it the fuck out as we go over the entire map of the whole place. It's a real pop quiz there, Hotshot. What do you do? What do you do? We introduce ourselves. Hi, everyone. Welcome to The Review Review. My name is Paul. I'm a co-host here. I am Ben. I am also a co-host here. And we normally have a fabulous guest with us, and today is no different. We have Christopher Morrison with us. Christopher, say hello to the people.
SPEAKER_02:Hello, everybody. Thanks
SPEAKER_05:for having me, guys. I'm talking about The Elevator, but yes. Oh, gotcha. In case you don't know what this is, this is a movie podcast called The Review Review. Of course you knew what this was. We typically do a movie that's seven years old or older, two hours and 22 minutes or less, and not part of any major franchise unless it's on Ben and or I's breaker list. True. And this one was on both. Yeah. It's Speed. Yes. Which doesn't have a sequel.
UNKNOWN:What?
SPEAKER_05:No.
SPEAKER_03:Oh,
SPEAKER_05:come on. It's not really a sequel, right? Is
SPEAKER_03:it? I
SPEAKER_05:don't know. Let's not talk about that one. It was in space, right? Should have been. Whatever. The shuttle cannot slow down. A lot of slingshotting. No gravity. You know. Super fun. I mean, yeah, it was called Gravity, right? Oh, no. Oh, no. But Carson. of gravity, but then Fast and Furious ends up in space. We can get it back.
SPEAKER_02:We
SPEAKER_04:can.
SPEAKER_02:We got it.
UNKNOWN:Christopher Morrison, tell all of our adoring fans about you. Who are you? What do you do?
SPEAKER_02:I'm an actor, producer, watch a lot of TV, just made a little movie recently, like to bartend occasionally to make a little extra cash.
SPEAKER_05:Always the fucking dollar. He's selling himself short. Christopher Morrison is a fantastic actor. Where can they see your work? Very talented, very talented person. Yeah, what are you excited? What have you been doing?
SPEAKER_04:I've done a couple of shows here or there, Netflix, sci-fi.
SPEAKER_05:You have something coming out in September, you were telling me, right?
SPEAKER_02:I do, yeah. I'm doing the story of Edgar Sautel with Bookett Repertory Theater. They take books and adapt them in the plays.
SPEAKER_04:It's sort of a structure based like the story of Hamlet, but it takes place on a dog
SPEAKER_02:breeding farm in the middle of the country. Very interesting. And yeah, Bookett Repertory Theater is a great company. I've worked with a lot through the years. I believe Ben has worked with them a couple of times as well. The company kind of dissolved a little bit after 2020, and this is their kind of resurgence back in the Seattle scene. So I'm super happy to be a part of that and excited to be performing that at the end of September, early October at Broadway Performance Hall in Seattle, Washington.
SPEAKER_05:So go check it out, everybody. Bookit.org, is that their email still? It is. It is. Yeah. So you can probably find more. information there. Ben, what you been doing? Oh man, what have I not been doing, Paul? That's the question. Let's name what I haven't been doing.
SPEAKER_03:Cool.
SPEAKER_05:Sleeping. A little bit of that. Not as much as, I mean, much more than I was doing a couple weeks ago. Still in post for Rough Ways. I finished my first course of grad school starting back up at my job job I've been getting back into auditioning for theater which I kind of thought was something that had left me behind and suddenly it's a thing that people want me to do again wonderful yeah it does feel good who knows might not be anything put some monologues on tape for the first time in a long time and sent them out to a few places per request from one and so other than that I'm going to be doing, I'm doing Southern Bard, which a guest of this podcast, Mike Bowers runs, which is Shakespeare in the set in the South performed in a bar. So that's awesome. That's one night. Yeah. One night of the 12th of 12th night playing Antonio. I'm doing that, uh, end of this month. Welcome back, everyone, to Paul's Recipe Corner, or PRC, which means nothing else but that, Paul's Recipe Corner. I made nachos. Nice. For the fam. Such a hit. I'm very proud to say. Tell me about how you make your nachos. Leftover nachos. It's got to be Juan Tonio's is what they're called now. The chips, salted tortilla chips. Juan Tonio's. Are they Juan Tonio? Well, they had to change their name. Okay. Juan Tonio's. You put a little bit of the pinto bean juice in the ground beef. You got to do 80-20 ground beef. You got to do a good packet of seasoning. Taco Bell brand is fine. It's just fine. I don't know. Old El Paso is fine. And then olives, tomatoes, crispy fresh romaine, that pinto bean, that ground beef, freshly shredded cheddar and jack cheese, Hotija cheese, maybe. I love the cheeses. Black olives. Yeah, just delicious. Chives. Sour cream. Hot sauce. How many layers of cheese do you bake? Do you do chips, cheese, chips, cheese? How do you layer it? I do, sir. I do chips, cheese, meat. Chips, cheese, meat. And then when it comes out of the oven, the cheese is nicely melted. Chris, this is this segment. This is like a 42-story high. This is great.
SPEAKER_04:I'm just thinking about the monsters who just like put the pile of chips and then everything on top of it
SPEAKER_05:you
SPEAKER_04:can't you
SPEAKER_05:can't do
SPEAKER_04:it but people do that
SPEAKER_05:i know utah that's not nachos that's just like you get a layer of deliciousness and then just bear chips or soggy chips soggy chips that have just given the fuck up in some cases antonio's never gives up the ground but i don't want to eat those just terrible and chives i think i probably said chives i love chives that's me
SPEAKER_02:yeah When you eat nachos, are you, uh, do you think about it and like what other people might want to like get,
SPEAKER_04:or are you just going in?
SPEAKER_05:Do you remember the movie saving Silverman?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. They're eating nachos and he's like, Hey, he picks one up and he picks up like the whole top layer. If the chips are stuck together, that's one notch. That's one notch. You can't just take, you can't take the chips with all the meat and toppings. We have a policy. You wouldn't talk to him, but you Yeah, hey everyone, what have you been watching?
SPEAKER_04:I watched the Dave Franco, Alison Brie movie the other day together. So
SPEAKER_03:that
SPEAKER_02:was, I've been watching that a little bit of quarterback on Netflix, trying to get back into the fantasy football world again and kind of get inspired a little bit.
SPEAKER_06:Watching
SPEAKER_02:my boy Joe and getting back in the football mentality because I feel like once fantasy football all season starts I'm
SPEAKER_04:doing that so much and then when it stops I kind of try to detach a little bit sure
SPEAKER_05:I've been watching that too what have you thought of it so did you watch the whole thing no
SPEAKER_02:no I'm only I'm only a couple episodes in it's interesting when you're watching a show like that that
SPEAKER_04:takes place last season and then you're kind of remembering the games and thinking and seeing that oh wow that they were doing this while they were going through that sort of like when the
SPEAKER_05:line demolished the Seahawks in week four. Yeah. Absolutely demolished us. They showed that whole game. Are you okay? We were 3-0 up to that point, if you don't recall. We were 3-0. I don't recall that. Maybe it was in quarterback, and I don't even remember. It was. It is the most important position in sports. That's what Peyton says a lot. I think of all sports that is true, unless you're playing by yourself as a boxer or something. I mean, like the only other argument you could make is maybe pitcher. You're the director on the field. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so I agree. It's got to be really difficult to anticipate to everybody. You have to be Monsieur Gustave anticipating wide receiver moves and, you know, fakes and all this kind of stuff. But Christopher, you're going to finish it. Yeah, sure. Okay. Maybe.
SPEAKER_04:Oh! I mean, we got, what, a month before the season starts and then I got to start running my league and dealing with Ben's league.
SPEAKER_05:Paul, what have you been
SPEAKER_04:watching?
SPEAKER_05:Me? Okay. I have been re-watching The Wire. Nice. Because that show's fucking awesome. It's a perfect show. I watched Homicide Life on the Street and then graduated to The Wire later on and fucking A. It's just so good. Sometimes the folks that don't feel like trained actors do some of the coolest shows shit it's so authentic and on that note mark maron has a new special on hbo called panicked i like him really enjoyed it okay talking about depression versus anxiety versus shame versus like just let me be okay with fucking soy milk or whatever it is let me be okay with buying a shirt that is made of what just let me fucking live i'm tired of constantly recently being panicked about everything. And it is really vulnerable and good. And I really enjoyed it quite a bit. I
SPEAKER_02:feel like I did that to my mom yesterday being like, you don't have Chobani yogurt in your fridge, do you? She's like, why? I'm like, oh, there's cancer in those packages. She's like, that's the yogurt I eat. I was like, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Just let me eat fucking
SPEAKER_05:yogurt. Apparently microplastics are in glass now. What are we going to do? What are you going to do? Ben. Yeah. What have you been watching? So I fell hard into a pit. The pit, as it were. I've been watching The Pit on HBO Max. After all the Emmy nominations came out, and it got a bunch, and I listened to an NPR episode about them, and they were like, it's The Pit's year, and I'm like, okay, I better give this an opportunity. And I'm not a big procedural hospital guy. I used to watch House a lot, and I liked the original ER, but like, I've never really gotten into any of the other ones. I was like, well, I don't really count that as one of those procedural hospitals because it's a comedy. No Chicago Hope? Nope. No Hill Street News? Nope. No. Hill Street No News?
SPEAKER_03:No The Good Doctor? The Resident?
SPEAKER_05:Nope.
SPEAKER_03:Come on. Chicago Med?
SPEAKER_05:Nope. Chicago RN? That's not one. Chicago High school counselor yes that's a great show i love that one great show good show chicago crossing guard but anyway the funny thing about the pit which i didn't realize is that it's not a procedural hospital show right it's it's very much uh i mean it's a prestige drama but the concept is that each episode is just another hour in this morning at an er in pittsburgh and so like the first episode is like 7 a.m to 8 a.m and then the next episode is 8 a.m to at 9am and that's the entire season. It is great. The performances are great and the script is great and I see why the Crichton Estate did Sue because it was originally proposed as an ER spinoff. It was turned down by the Crichton Estate and then they were like, well, we're going to make this anyway and just change the names. I think they settled outside of court. It is very ER-esque. Is there a level of it that it's 24 at an extremely over busy hospital yes to the degree that like the hospital is like jam-packed and like they're constantly just churning and burning but like there's not like a ticking clock in terms of like they have to accomplish something in a certain amount of time you know it's really just like they have patients patients come in they live they die and then they might stick around for a And Noah Wiley is phenomenal. What I really appreciate about it in a weird way is this sort of like recognition that death is just a normal part of existing. They'll lose someone and they'll have a moment and then they go on with their day. It's not like this overly saccharine or sentimental thing that I think some of these hospital shows really go deep into. It doesn't fall into that pit.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, hi, Mark. So
SPEAKER_05:anyhow, I'm enjoying it. Garth Murray, he's Darkfoot. HBO Max. What about Garth Marenghi's Dark Place? Medical Procedurals. Oh, I've actually never seen that, Paul. Oh, boy. We got to work on that. Okay. Okay. We're not going fast enough for this episode, guys. We need to pick up the pace because if we drop below 50, I don't know what to tell you. We're going to learn about life and death and how important or unimportant that may be. Did people just drive slower in the 90s? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Keep
SPEAKER_05:it
SPEAKER_02:above 50 in LA. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:And watching when the bus first gets on the freeway, you're telling me it's not above 50? Because they say once it goes above 50, it can't drop. And I'm like, wait a minute. It's on the freeway. It's going like 45? Let's not worry about some of the physics of this movie. I have a whole page on physics. On ramps, off ramps, the math of it. Christopher, let go. Let it go. The lean? We've got to figure that out. The weight distribution? I was trying to do the math. uh trust me i've used super nintendo controllers enough when i was back in my 40s i used super i mean you lean that fucker moves like mario will go further if chris's camera just panned slowly to the right he has one of those like murder boards with all this like math and like he's charlie and uh meme yeah just smoking cigarettes like the lean doesn't make sense the jump the math the physics
SPEAKER_03:cocaine okay
SPEAKER_05:there is no limit paul let's keep going we have we've talked about we've talked about what we've been doing. We've talked about what we're watching. Tell me about the facts, Ben.
SPEAKER_03:Archaeology is the search for facts.
SPEAKER_05:We are doing the movie titled Speed. We're not doing Speed.
SPEAKER_03:Cocaine.
SPEAKER_05:We are doing the movie titled Speed. You were very careful with that. Yeah. It'd be going a lot faster. Yeah. Mark Gordon, 20th Century Studios. I'm not 20th Century Fox, as you see there. The Fox is no more. It is rated R. It is from 1994 and it is an hour and 56 minutes. Technically, it is one hour, 55 minutes, and 55 seconds. Hell yeah. Right? Hell yeah, dog. I wonder how much they had to hear. Like, I gotta cut that mic for a second. It's me editing this. Yes. Paul's gonna have to edit the shit out of this to make it sound like we are talking faster. Budget. 30 million adjusted and that is 65.3 million. Unbelievable. That is crazy. June 10th, 1994, 14 million in the U.S. Adjusted, that's 31.6. Final gross in North America, 121.2. Adjusted, that's 263.7. Final gross worldwide, that is 350.4. Adjusted, 771.3 million dollars. Wow. That is a juggernaut. Yeah. It was the summer of speed baby
SPEAKER_06:yeah
SPEAKER_05:other releases this weekend city slickers 2 legend of curly's gold i love city slickers man big fan uh weekend top five this movie the flintstones city slickers 2 maverick and renaissance man other films from 1994 double dragon leprechaun 2 china moon a simple twist of fate cabin boy pcu what's that Anyone know? Movie with Jeremy Piven in college. Brainscan, Blank Man, and Clean Slate. These are the classic movies from 1994. Yeah, definitely know. This is crazy. All of those.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_05:You're a big Leprechaun 2 fan? I'm kind
SPEAKER_04:of
SPEAKER_05:a big Leprechaun fan. It's better than Boondock Saints, so we could have done Leprechaun, Paul. Leprechaun 2 is my preferred Leprechaun, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, for next time, you know, St. Patrick's Day. Let's, we don't have to do Boondock Saints 2. Leprechaun 2 is good. He's gay. The hood is good. Space is great. They're all, they're all great. But
SPEAKER_06:he has a special connection to St. Patrick's Day. There's many things
SPEAKER_05:that I'm interested in. Letterboxd average of this movie, 3.7. You can follow us on Letterboxd. I'm at RunBMC. Paul is at PaulXBadly. And Chris, your on Letterboxd, I believe.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I'm on there. Yeah. I think it's just C. Morrison is my Letterboxd. I just got into that recently this year because of
SPEAKER_02:you guys. Oh, nice. I'm really kind of enjoying it and kind of starting to slowly keep track of things that I'm watching and
SPEAKER_04:trying to stay on it a bit more to help me kind of articulate different shows and movies and be able to write about them. So thank you. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, this is some true Bort religion talk. I love it. I love this. This is great. This is making my day. That's so great to hear. Where else can people follow you, Chris, if you'd like them to follow you?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, my Instagram is Christopher underscore Morrison. Same thing on TikTok, Christopher underscore Morrison, M-O-R-S-O-N, in case you were wondering. It's not like Jim.
SPEAKER_05:Great. Give them a follow. Back to speed, Siskel and Ebert, two very enthusiastic... Back to speed, Siskel and Ebert, two very enthusiastic I'm going to ask real quick about the Rotten Tomatoes thing. Yeah. Is that some sort of key effect in terms of the popcorn meter. Yeah. Cause I feel like it's like audiences watch point break or they watch this, but they watch things that he's in and his affectation or his accent. People are like, no, this guy can't act. And it's like, I personally think that. So I think that exists. And I think it's so wrong. I know I talked about this on point break and I don't think it's like wrong. Like it's evil wrong, but it's a, I think he's a pretty fucking good actor. I think it, it puts him in a bit of a box. And I think maybe some people maybe rubs people the wrong way. I could see this, you know, also feeling a little, um, for some people, you know, die hard on a bus, you know, maybe not as that original, I suppose. Yeah. I don't know what that popcorn meter is about. Also the popcorn meter for this movie obviously didn't exist or even rotten tomatoes didn't exist. I don't think
SPEAKER_04:at that time.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Yeah. So those are late bloomers. I think that Johnny Utah, uh, and Jack Traven and Mr. Anderson. These are all different characters. They're all pretty iconic characters. Oh, for sure. Bill and Ted. There are so many different... John Wick. Love you, Keanu. Director, Jan de Bont. He directed The Haunting from 1999, Lara Croft, Cradle of Life, and Speed 2, Cruise Control? It's a different movie. It's not a sequel to this. It's a It's an entirely different movie. Is that... What? Actor, recognizable, celebrated actor, Willem Dafoe? It is. Yeah. Whoa! There's many things that are interesting. I thought that was something else. Writer, Graham Yost, Broken Arrow, Hard Rain, and The Last Castle. Director of photography was Andre Bartowiak. Species, B. David Caruso in Jade. U.S. Marshals. Music... Mark Mancina, Shooter, Cry Macho, Moana 2. Gross. I fucking love the music in this movie. Oh, yeah. I think it's so great. It feels like Basil Polidorus, Robocop, or Brad Fidel, who did Terminator 2.
SPEAKER_02:Do we want to maybe mention the secret underground writer that isn't really talked about that often for this movie?
SPEAKER_04:Supposedly, Josh... Sweden kind of rewrote a lot of the dialogue and characters for especially Jack and a bit of Andy. Oh,
SPEAKER_05:really? Yeah. That's my understanding as well. He has done a lot of script doctoring in his day and this apparently is one of them.
SPEAKER_04:And they were trying, like there was some stuff I was, I saw that and it kind of went down a rabbit hole where they were trying to get him credited and it wasn't,
SPEAKER_02:the studio wouldn't allow it or something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:Interesting. I couldn't really find out. Unions, it's a percentage in how much of the story. Oh, right. There's so many things. Yeah. Producers on this film, well, it's Mark Gordon saving Private Ryan, Molly's game, and Source Code. This movie stars Buss. What did you say? Did you say bus? Bus. You just said bus. Keanu Reeves as Jack Constantine. Bus as bus. In... Speed. Bus. Utah. Give me two. Keanu Reeves as Jack Constantine, the devil's advocate. Point Break. The Point Break episode. It's great. Listen to it, yeah. Dennis Hopper, RIP, as Howard. Waterworld, Easy Rider, and Super Mario Bros. Listen to our Waterworld and Super Mario Bros. episodes. Please, go back. Sandy? Sandy? Sandy. Who has a new collar. Little Hello Kitty collar. I have to say my heart throbs for Sandra Bullock in this movie. Yeah. Sandra Bullock as Annie, Miss Congeniality, Murder by Numbers, Demolition Man.
SPEAKER_04:You want to date me? You want to love me?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, that was good. Joe Morton as McMahon Terminator two judgment day. Another movie where, I mean, in that one, he's holding the remote operated bomb.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Brother from another planet and stealth. Jeff Daniels was Harry arachnophobia, something wild and Escanaba into moonlight. Alan Ruck, Stevens, Star Trek Generations, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Twister, but not Twisters. But listen to our Twister episode. Also, I love Alan Ruck. And follow it up with Twisters. We got them both, baby. We got both. Because there's two of those for certain. Twister dollar sign. This one, are you sure? The next one or this one should have been called Speed dollar sign. Speeds. Just with two buses! Did they not understand the fucking white, hot laser of stardom that this bus was on? Fucking shit! This bus burnt hot and fast. It went out with a bang. The poster of this movie, one of them, is just the bus surrounded by a wall of flame and just the nose of the bus is exposed. One of the great posters of all time. Wonderful poster.
SPEAKER_04:love it
SPEAKER_05:love it glenn plumber jaguar guy why didn't they just call him tune man
SPEAKER_04:yeah
SPEAKER_05:just credit him as tune man south central strange days show girls richard lineback norwood natural born killers the ring ready to rumble beth grant as helen donnie darko i am doubting y'all's commitment to sparkle motion by the way which is very disappointing pointing as this episode is brought to us by Sparkle Motion. No Country for Old Men and Little Miss Sunshine. Hawthorne James with Sam, Seven, Se, Seven, and Beyond Suspicion and Amistad. Look forward to our seven episode coming soon. Chris, you have some facts for us that are a little more fun that are going to speed us forward. I do. I do have some fun facts.
SPEAKER_03:Fun facts, fun facts, fun facts. So
SPEAKER_02:the moments when Annie takes the chewing gum out of her mouth and
SPEAKER_04:pretends to put it on her seat in order to change seats and move away from Stevens was improvised by Sandra
SPEAKER_05:Bullock. I have gum on my seat. Charming, delightful and charming. Gum. So great. And in the second, I mean, in this
SPEAKER_02:last watch, I saw that moment and I was like,
SPEAKER_04:wow, that was a good, that's a good little tactic. So great. That's great. It's good. The bus jump scene was done twice as the bus landed too smoothly on the first time. The bridge was actually there, but erased digitally.
SPEAKER_05:Same with the ramp, I think. I mean, that thing is flying. They couldn't have put some sort of fake, just a couple of boards stacked to make it look... It goes from completely horizontal
SPEAKER_04:to
SPEAKER_05:just diagonal. Yo, whatever. when I ride a city bus I am moving I'm already shaking and kind of bouncing around when it takes turns in that if you look at the characters on the bus when that thing lands they're just like oh they would probably like be freaking slammed against the wall shitting and pissing everywhere throwing up just like I mean just like plummeted forward there's no seatbelts you know there's no way to like be safe in there we don't when they go when they're like 50 feet i literally just started laughing out loud so hard i would love to see the the re-ended version of this where it's like we're gonna jump it we're gonna jump it and the bus is just fucking straight down or just hits the yeah just flips everybody falls out what's that literal youtube channel that does literal trailers or literal movie pit Bitches. Yeah. Them telling the chief, like, we're going to jump it. They were like, no, don't do that.
SPEAKER_04:Don't do that. Explode. Explode instead. I
SPEAKER_05:like at no point to like when there's an elevator involved or, or this in case a bus at no point, are there engineers? Are they talking to like, there's, they're never talking to like anyone. Just what? What knows everything? Apparently. LAPD. LAPD. Which, is also SWAT division their code name in Los Angeles is Sparkle Motion Los Angeles Sparkle Motion division SWAT wait are you serious what is Sparkle Motion it's from it's from Donnie Darko Donnie's Little Sisters in a dance troupe called Sparkle Motion and Beth Grant is the over protective
SPEAKER_03:mom who starts crying and is like I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion.
SPEAKER_04:So go back to
SPEAKER_05:the club. I'm glad you filled us in on that crazy deep cut.
SPEAKER_04:I was just going to keep going with it.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah. We're brought to the people by sparkle motion. Yeah. We all know that. All right. Continuing with the fun facts guys. Number, number three, I guess. All right.
SPEAKER_04:10 buses, a total of 10 buses were used in the making of the film. Several, with completely glass fronts. Each one had two steering wheels, one for Sandra Bullock and the other for the stunt driver, which was more often than not mounted
SPEAKER_02:on the roof of the bus, obviously, to not be in the shot.
SPEAKER_05:I was wondering, though, because sometimes in those wide shots, is it just like a stunt driver in a Sandra Bullock wig? Because I was wondering where the stunt driver might have been. On the roof. Or she's doing it. They might have just edited the driver out in the, you can cut this, but every time you say Sandra Bullock, I have to refrain from going. She's just so... You
SPEAKER_04:wanna love me. We
SPEAKER_05:love a Sandy.
SPEAKER_04:Quentin Tarantino was offered the chance to direct, but turned it down. Tarantino has since been quoted several times that this film is one of his 20 favorite films since 1992.
SPEAKER_05:Huh. Different movie. Loves this movie, apparently. Yeah, but Tarantino's speed? I don't know. Oh, yeah, that for sure. No. know there's there's a lightness to this movie there's something that feels dare i say spielbergian to it or something that this movie has to have that i don't know if it has it's a playful yeah it's got a playful adventure but it does a great job of sort of like diving into the really severe situation on top of it people fucking die yeah
SPEAKER_04:john de bont insisted that keanu reeves get a sensible haircut as would befit a horror Hair rules. Hair is great. I like the
SPEAKER_05:buzz cut. I like the buzz cut. I just love this sensible haircut. I imagine Jan de Bont's talking to him like, you don't go out like that on a weekday, do you, sir? Get a haircut. The hippie's lost. The
SPEAKER_03:hippie's totally
SPEAKER_05:lost, Keanu. you can pass your own hair you don't even have to I will come and pass your hair is he German? he's Dutch
SPEAKER_04:do a Dutch
SPEAKER_05:maybe try a Dutch one maybe do that I just think the buzz cut really works with the character and he seems like kind of a dude who probably got through high school with okay grades is probably from California and kind of just became a cop he seems like a neighborhood guy seems like a totally regular dude but also like surfs or like plays pick up basketball and goes camping and he just happens to have this affectation
SPEAKER_04:before supposed Joss's
SPEAKER_02:edits he was originally that character was like super cocky and like like a super cocky kind of like assholey cop and then when Joss came in he kind of made him
SPEAKER_04:more
SPEAKER_02:like
SPEAKER_04:grounded and natural I think goes well with Keanu for that type of
SPEAKER_02:role even headed
SPEAKER_05:I agree I don't know what all the rewrites were or the approach was from Jan de Bont or Keanu or Sandra Bullock or how this stew was made that is Jack Travin but I like the character I think he comes off less presumptuous than he does just really fucking brave and kind of reckless about his value like he he he He doesn't understand that it's like, no, you not valuing yourself also can put other people in danger. But there is a charm to it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. All right, I got
SPEAKER_02:one more fact, boys, and we can continue on.
SPEAKER_05:I'll tell you this for
SPEAKER_02:free. The I-105 had recently been completed, but not opened at the time of production. The filmmakers were given all the
SPEAKER_04:time they needed to complete the freeway scenes, but without the hassle of closing down or operating a major freeway, which is... Is
SPEAKER_05:that ever happened again? I don't know. That's a good question. Filming history? Watching it, I was wondering if they had to use the same couple miles of freeway and just keep looping. Right, or build it like the Matrix. Yeah, I figured they didn't do that. Right, sure. I was just curious, but that's amazing that they got access to that because can you do this movie if you don't? No. Or you do it in Australia or South Africa? Africa or something. Yeah. I just can't believe the budget of this movie. Cause now this is probably what a hundred,$110 million movie. And it goes straight to streaming or something like that. Maybe. I don't know, but Christopher. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That's me. I'm Christopher. You chose this film, this film speed. If you were to give me four sentences to pitch me the head of Fox, this movie is that an elevator is plummeting toward the basement. You have to tell me three, four sentences to pitch me this movie. Give me the log line. It can be two sentences. Okay. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. There's a bus with a bomb on it that can't go under 50. Okay. Or it explodes. So you have to figure out a way to defuse the bomb and save everybody on it as it plummets through
SPEAKER_05:L.A. That's so good. There are some things that are flipped or names left out, and those are very specific things. But to summarize, I thought that was really great. I can give that another try. No, that was so good. I can't logline this movie. You just broke it down in such a way. I can give you a premise. Imagine you had to go fast by car in Los Angeles, 50 miles an hour, or you explode. I guess. Your logline is pretty fucking close. A deranged bomb expert, Howard Payne, rigs a city bus with a bomb that will explode if it drops below 50 miles per hour. It's up to officer Jack Traven and passenger Annie Porter to work together to keep the bus moving to save everyone on board. Christopher, you removed the unnecessary information of the characters' names. You just made it even more succinct. You sped it up. That was impressive. Right to the point. I do not doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion. Not for a fucking second. You are dedicated. I'm
SPEAKER_04:gonna run it one day.
SPEAKER_05:You're gonna run Sparkle Motion?
SPEAKER_04:Sometimes I
SPEAKER_05:doubt it. your hat is Sparkle Motion. You can't run Sparkle Motion. Sparkle Motion runs you. Everyone, we're going to come back and talk more about speed with Christopher Morrison after this. Did you see that bus ad that said Sparkle Motion? Why wasn't there a Sparkle Motion truck in our last movie? These crazy fucking vehicles, man. We're doing a lot of, it's vehicle, vehicle, vehicular manslaughter. Summer. It's a vehicular manslaughter summer. So terrible. But only the tail end of the summer. The beginning of the summer was our 70s, sweaty 70s summer. Somehow, our last one had to do with trucks. And this one has to do with bus. Death and trucks. This one's death and bus. And robots. Christopher Morrison. Do you want to play a game of Cinephile? I'm just going to flip this deck and you tell me when to stop. I will show the card to the camera and then just read what's on the card. Read the name of the actor and read the movie. And then Paul will go and then name a movie that actor's in. I will name a movie, you will name a movie. And then whoever doesn't succeed at the first, we'll just talk about their first viewing of the movie, Sped. Spitted. Spedometer.
SPEAKER_04:I will say I'm not sure how good I'm going to be at this, but I will give it my best.
SPEAKER_05:Do not worry, my friend. There have been people that have come up who I'm like, I know who that is. In Holland, it's called cock. Was that your Dutch?
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying!
SPEAKER_05:He went to the bathroom and pulled up his Dutch dial accent. I have to go back and try
SPEAKER_03:it. Duolingo playback, playback. He's calling cock.
SPEAKER_05:Oh my god. You let me know when to stop, okay? Alright. Stop.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Okay, great. Jodie Foster, Taxi Driver.
SPEAKER_05:The Accused. Silence of the Lambs. Avatar? The Brave One. I don't believe she's an avatar. You got to look it up then. I don't think she is. She's not. Are you thinking of Sigourney Weaver? Yep. Okay. Well, Christopher. I was going to say contact. Can we redo that? That's horrible. That was so embarrassing. I'm sweating. I don't like this. We've all done what you just did. Trust me. Yeah, I've done it. I've definitely done it. Paul's done it. Well, I panic because I was like, wait, am I supposed to say... Oh, okay. You're all good. It happens to literally everybody. All of us. Everybody. Yeah, what's your first experience with the movie? Speed. And you're rating it out of 5 in your most recent experience.
SPEAKER_04:Wait, I have to go first?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's what happens when you... I lost? Oh, Jesus. It's your punishment. We really take care of our guests here.
SPEAKER_04:When this movie came out, I would three. I remember this movie
SPEAKER_02:actually instilled a fear, a childhood fear in me that I later on realized was that I had a huge fear of elevators because of this movie, because of the first scene of this movie, because I saw it when I was so young. So it was sometime in my
SPEAKER_04:young childhood. I think I watched this rated R movie with my parents, and I remember that that lady's face in the back of the elevator just like shaking her head like
SPEAKER_05:no i can't he's just like every little tiny performance is so great it is it is and that that ladies i remember in the washroom again i was
SPEAKER_02:like oh this this lady's this lady's face i'm gonna see it and i'm just gonna feel gross and i saw it and i felt gross and i realized anyway that was my i'm like this
SPEAKER_05:fucking lady this lady take the fucking step get off yo fucking ladies
SPEAKER_04:talk about this movie just building tension from the very beginning love it so that was like my first kind of experience with this movie I think was early early under I was probably around under 10 years old watching this with my parents maybe you
SPEAKER_05:couldn't even give it a score like not even
SPEAKER_04:sure I was
SPEAKER_02:like I would say that moment I would say if I don't even I would want to give it a Keanu or two but I don't even know I didn't even know you were too
SPEAKER_05:scared very low just scaring your thing Thank you.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Scared, but I definitely thought Sandra Bullock was pretty.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah. Woods are full of trees, pal. So that was the, that was probably my first, I mean, I probably saw this before point break. I would think, you know. Oh yeah. Yeah. Me too. Did you watch this again today or yesterday? I watched
SPEAKER_04:it day before yesterday.
SPEAKER_05:And what are your feelings about it now?
SPEAKER_04:I want to give it, a good four Keanos
SPEAKER_05:out of
SPEAKER_04:five.
SPEAKER_05:That's a big turnaround.
SPEAKER_04:I know. And I think it's because I think it was the movie that really dug his foot deep into being a leading action star person. I agree. Point Break kind of gave him that, and this was the one that was like, I'm going to be here forever. And he is still here today making amazing action movies. On this movie, from the very beginning, he did 90% of his stunts on this movie. I'm like, man, you've been that guy since day one and have been doing it since. On that world of rating, I'm a big Keanu fan. I also think this movie of just structure and simplicity, but every moment is just... packed but like i i just love i don't know if just the early 90s stuff of just the cheesiness of these one-liners
SPEAKER_02:you're not so tough with that moments are you
SPEAKER_04:in the movie itself that just make you laugh but almost laugh
SPEAKER_05:me yeah oh darn
SPEAKER_03:i yeah oh darn
SPEAKER_05:oh are you in are you insured yeah i'm hearing my i'm gonna take this phone take the phone that guy is great, you know? Alan Ruck is a BYU professor on a solo vacation or whatever the backstory he came up with. The airport. I've already seen the airport. I've already seen the airport. He's so self-absorbed. It's so great. He's like Ferris Bueller, but 20 years later and alone. Because everybody hates him. The fact that you get this as the 6th or 7th build person, and every performance in this movie, it's all great. It's all so fun. And the music just...
SPEAKER_04:Oh, my God. It's just...
SPEAKER_05:Adrenaline. I saw this way too young as well. I must have been also, but only three. Three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, and then put a multiplier between all of them. But I saw this at a babysitter's house. They had rented it. I just got sat down, just like I did with Wes Craven's New Nightmare. They hit the play button and walked away. And... easy peasy I was mesmerized by this movie I was also Chris a little bit scared of this movie but I had the best fucking time and begged my dad to rent this movie at whatever point it got purchased on VHS I've owned it on DVD and I just loved it the first time clearly I would have given it you know five buses I maybe have seen this movie as much or more than any other movie. I know I've said that on this podcast, but you're going to hear me say that several times moving forward as well. I watched this movie today. It's very easy to do. Yes. I have
SPEAKER_03:speed on 4K.
SPEAKER_05:Look at that big, beautiful bus.
SPEAKER_03:That's the only time that that should all
SPEAKER_05:get. Yeah, exactly. Oh, 25, 25. It's so great in the home theater experience. The audio is so full. You can tell everybody gave a shit. The music is fucking incredible. It has that great kind of iron clanging kind of thing. It immediately takes me into the world. I had the best time. The thing for this movie with me, the last couple views, it loses a.5. It's four and a half gold watches for me. You took my fucking ratings system yes because i knew i knew that you would anticipate that i love that he leaves a clue because you know i love to leave a clue yes this is the bonus for me chris
SPEAKER_03:i went second
SPEAKER_05:are you the yes are you the hopper to my kiani are you always oh i hope oh are you talking on the phone with only your right hand oh i want I wanted to talk about that. So good. Well, what's funny is that his left hand's all fucked up. He's missing a thumb. I know. But he could use this. He could
SPEAKER_03:talk on this part. I know, but it looks cooler the other way. He could do this. It's more interesting. He could do this.
SPEAKER_05:Shush, both of you. For the listeners who are not looking, I'm holding the phone to my right
SPEAKER_06:ear
SPEAKER_05:with my right hand. And what we're talking about is he holds the phone with his right hand to his opposite ear. His neck hurts. It's strange. It's dynamic. His neck is hurting because he's making a lot of shots. Hold on. I got to talk about my experience so we can get to the movie. Four and a half gold watches. We'll go into why. This was a VHS that we owned and I watched it frequently a lot. I watched it a lot. Frequently a lot, sure. Yeah. Regularly? You know, I was only, but I'm going to tell you my actual age. I was, I know, wild. I was eight when this came out. Who are you accusing? Choosing of what? Uh, careful, careful, careful. I was like, so I really got in this movie. I feel like around like 10, nine or 10. And it just became a regular rotation. And I would have given it five back then in reviewing this movie. I hadn't watched it in a while, but I still feel like for early nineties, for me, this is sort of the definitive action movie. What's funny is I, while watching it, seeing it and talking to Jess I was like Keanu kind of is a stalwart of the genre for the 90s because not only is this to me like the kind of the epitome of the action movie for the 90s but then Matrix is sort of the entry point into the 2000s of action and kind of like changes the game this is they truly don't make movies like this anymore Paul you've already brought up so much about all of the character actors they've filled the world out with and Each person is given so much to do and like nobody is forgotten. And it's everybody gets so much treated so well in the filmmaking itself, close ups and giving them time to like react to the situation. It's really quite stunning to watch. So for me, changing my I guess I'll change my rating system since I can't use gold watches. I didn't I didn't retire from the police force, so I can't use that. Paul did. That's correct. So I still have this mustache.
SPEAKER_04:I was wondering.
SPEAKER_05:So this is, I mean, I still have issues with a lot of the physics and some of that shit, but
SPEAKER_01:I'm
SPEAKER_05:going to go with, I'm going to go with four bullets in your buddy's legs. Cause you got it. Four shot buddies. Four shot buddies. Cause you got to shoot the hostage. Do people feel from Ted Theodore Logan on, If it's an adventure action movie, that's like a studio vehicle, be it Orion or Fox or Lionsgate or Warner Brothers. If Keanu Reeves is starring, that's probably a good studio action movie. I'm interested in that. Yes. 100%. We all agree. Okay. Everyone, it's time. Yeah. 444.5. Start the movie. Start the
SPEAKER_06:movie! Start the movie! And
SPEAKER_01:now, our feature presentation.
SPEAKER_05:Every time I got into an elevator after this point of seeing this with my dad or my brother, one of us would always say, thanks for pressing that button, Bob. I love that. Just as a joke to this day, we still say it. It's a really fun thing that feels really useful that feels like it's echoed later for multiple reasons. But even in this moment in the elevator shaft, I remember first time I watched this movie, I was like, where am I? What's happening? Did you say big shaft? Shut your mouth. I'm talking about shaft. That's a good movie. He's a bad mother. You can dig it. Yeah. So, but the elevator shaft and the big block letters with the drop shadows and the score just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The camera move in the elevator shaft, you feel all the craftsmanship of this movie. And we talked about some of the digital wipes and things that were done. It seemed like those were used really sparingly. And I appreciate that when you go through the stunt list and the people that worked on this movie, it's like the all star of all star list. It's like hall of famers up and down. I also think like they just immediately get us into the world of this movie with this elevator of people. Then they get making us feel for these people quickly. And with like small character things, that's going to be a big part of this movie is giving us these groups of people who are in peril. And they're just like, normal everyday people but they do such a good job in the script and in the filmmaking and the performances really like make us care about this group in the elevator
SPEAKER_04:yeah the secretary like whispering into the the older gentleman's ear when they get into the elevator you're just like what's going on there yeah you know you're already like you're already kind of like wondering
SPEAKER_05:yeah there's nuance already yeah yeah that's i agree ben you make such a good point about there's such a great craftsmanship also to the way that the camera tells the story and just the nuance of little tiny performance things i even like we were talking about the the level of peril you give a shit about everybody immediately they like everybody feels basically relatable and you see how ruthless dennis hopper is fucking immediately like he staples that guy in the fucking head doesn't even think about it it is ruth the edit is incredible the editing in the elevator where the woman who doesn't want to get out and the the last person who dude tries to get her to get out the guy who gives Bob a hard time and seems like kind of a shit tries to be like valiant and get everybody off and she won't move and then he's finally like fuck it I do love so again I do love that they've just sent SWAT here and not engineers you know like the build the people who built the building bring in people that like had bloop like these guys show up
SPEAKER_02:I gotta mention about
SPEAKER_04:the SWAT guys, I was noticing their costumes and their outfits and these jacket things that they have, their ear pieces with their little neck collars. Did you guys, those were stood out to me so much. Cause I'm like, what, what is this little neck collar? And they have it throughout the whole movie for the, for these guys. And it's like their, it's their like radio system, but it makes them look so
SPEAKER_05:cool. They do look cool. I'm like, but what is it for? It's a, it's a sparkle motion, uh, bone amplifier. They're also very effective. I just love that. They're like, Oh, we need to make sure we can strap something to this elevator. So it doesn't fall. Should we talk to someone who knows more about this than we do? Nope. No, let's go to the roof. We're just, we're going to go. They used to wash windows. I do love when they show up though, when they show up, that car is flying. They introduce, they introduce Jack as like the, this guy fucks immediately. Like he is super fucking reckless.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I wrote this down. It's the tension between instinct and protocol. Yeah. So like what you should be doing in this moment versus Jack being like, follow me to the
SPEAKER_01:roof.
SPEAKER_04:We gotta, we gotta save the yellow. Like it's just his natural instinct in these moments.
SPEAKER_05:Paul, I was thinking of last action hero when that car comes up, like, cause there's parts of the There's parts of this movie that feel like outlandish in the action and in the way that it operates. And like, again, they just shove a fucking cable through a vent and
SPEAKER_02:a
SPEAKER_05:conveniently fisheye side, like the perfect size loop on the top of the elevator. I kind of miss some of these things in movies that are kind of like, Hey movie, just let movie happen. We've talked about this a little bit. I had some good stuff. All guy had some of that. I agree. And I miss some of that where it's like, just suspend disbelief a little bit, just like, let yourself be entertained. And the edits in this portion are so clean. And Ben, you were talking about the writing too. I think Chris, you were also the, the gold watch foreshadowing where they're having a conversation and fucking Keanu just is like, cool. And the cable car buys them this time. And they get everybody evacuated. And again, the, the save of the lady and the edit of what looks like a practical effect of like that lady almost looked like she lost a fucking leg. Like it's all so good. I mean, they're like, Jack is like helping people off his elevator. And at any moment he could just get fucking smashed, sliced in half. It's such a good way to set up that Jack, everything Jack accomplishes is essentially by luck. And he never seems to realize that. Instinct. Instinct. Yeah. Or instinct. Exactly. I mean, they call it luck in the movie, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right after that, they're sitting on that bench.
SPEAKER_04:It's done. And just, he's just like chewing his gum and there's like sitting on that bench. And then he's all of a sudden he's like, he's got to be there to talk. He's got to be here. He's, he knows.
SPEAKER_05:It's like, it's like he's a profiler and a negotiator. Like, that's the funny thing about this movie is, I mean, I'm jumping ahead here, but like when he gets off the bus and They need to get the bomb out from underneath the bus. They don't go to some guy who hasn't been on a bus for the last four hours. They go to him. He's the one who's going to do it. It seems like the SWAT group is just like Jeff Daniels, the chief, that one dude with the mustache who drives the fucking thing, and Jack. I like that it's a thing they kind of try to establish early in the movie that Jack apparently just volunteers for everything before anybody else because he's just willing to to die at like any point. By the way, and I love that Jack shoots the hostage, but does anybody, do people agree that Harry told him to? Harry told him to, though he would be fired and like, you know, the amount of paperwork, the legal ramifications of being like, wait, hold on a second, you shot him? He's like, yeah, but you gotta understand, like, he had a guy, he had a bomb. He had a bomb on him. They cooked that up, like, they had to cook up a story to make sure jack didn't go to like prison or something yeah but he gets celebrated they get like a yeah it is important that we think that dennis hopper is dead and how he survived never really said but you know yeah he took it off and threw the
SPEAKER_04:bomb at the door and then ran away and exploded
SPEAKER_05:it how big was that bomb or he had a bomb in a trash can or like with a car that was pointed toward the door they they billed him as such an expert late that That's the thing is, I know I do this all the time, but I'm so willing to just like, I want this movie to keep going. And so I'm just not that worried about asking myself those questions. I do have a question though. When the news reports, the only life the bomber took was his own. Oh, so the fucking social security, the security guard that got his fucking head stapled is not any, who cares? Also, did they not find him? That's what he signed up Forbesy. Did they not find any remains of, you know, did he get dark manned out of that explosion? What a funny guy. Yeah, I
SPEAKER_04:guess. No remains. No,
SPEAKER_05:just keep
SPEAKER_04:going. Movie. You got to keep the movie going. Speed.
SPEAKER_05:I agree. But yeah, that security guard, fuck him.
SPEAKER_04:Who cares?
SPEAKER_05:We're not
SPEAKER_04:even going to include him. I will say he delivered a good convincing performance of like, hey, what are you doing here? Like, you're not supposed to be here. I could
SPEAKER_05:book that, guys. You could book that part. Guys, I think I could book that. Yeah. I do love the party for them at the bar. I love Jeff Daniels. I'm going to go home and have some sex. Harry, you're going to go home and vomit.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. See,
SPEAKER_02:so many good
SPEAKER_04:lines. This movie is just filled. Every scene has just a line. Don't get dead. It's
SPEAKER_03:such a weird way to say it, but I
SPEAKER_04:love it. I think that if this movie had a t-shirt, it would be don't get dead.
SPEAKER_05:That's a good t-shirt. Also, how is Harry not in a wheelchair like he got shot in the fucking
SPEAKER_02:thigh inner thigh he should
SPEAKER_05:have a broken leg
SPEAKER_02:in that one scene he does give a little bit of a hobble out of the station he has a cane that switches hands oh he does this
SPEAKER_05:right see when you look at it here it's right wrong right wrong sorry I'm playing now either way sorry he does switch hands though with the cane which I find interesting it distracted me yeah there's something I just don't understand but But the line even, guts will get you so far and then they'll get you killed. And Jack's like, nah. But also, we're like 25, 30 minutes to the movie and there's been no bus. Right. We got to meet the bus. I mean, at first we meet a bus, but that bus doesn't last very long. It's a beautiful morning in Santa Monica.
SPEAKER_04:He's getting coffee. We think it's done, right? He's getting coffee at his local coffee shop.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, it feels like also maybe you want to go to Santa Monica and get like a coffee and hang out on the beach. Me too. Watching this. for me. Yeah, me too. This looks fun. I can remember watching this first time and be like, where are we going? Dennis Hopper's dead? What's happening now? When he shows back up, the way he shows back up with a person that we meet for a moment has a nice moment with Keanu. Good performance by that bus driver. Good performance. We see Jack's off and Bronco. And then we see a car towing the bus that's exploding. Whoopsie. You can see the wire. Oh, I missed that. Why not digitally remove that? Weren't you the one that just said you're not going to be asking questions or pulling threads? I did not see that. I would rather pulling threads. I would rather that than I don't know, but it could be digitally easily removed. And that's part of why we're at 4.5 instead of 5 some of these things it's like wait you this is so well editing
SPEAKER_03:editing so well
SPEAKER_05:edited edited but like why what was the choice there i don't understand that well chris didn't
SPEAKER_02:see it i didn't see
SPEAKER_05:it i
SPEAKER_02:was i was i was distracted by the bus driver because i was like that was the that's that dirty detective from ace ventura
SPEAKER_03:oh yeah
SPEAKER_02:that's
SPEAKER_03:right
SPEAKER_05:i do like keanu's performance when he looks in the bus and you can tell he sees like just a burning corpse. Yeah. And he's like, Oh, his response. Like, yeah. And I think again, it's such a good Jack values life in a way that I think is like, he values the life of anybody, everybody and anybody, just not his own, not his own, but he does value everyone else. And so like, you can tell like his initial instinct here is great. He just runs straight towards where he can maybe get the bus driver out of there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Even though it's like, clearly he's, probably burn to a crisp but um but yeah you know it's a great character trait and it's different from everyone else it's different from neo it's different from john wick it you know it's different it's different from johnny utah it is and i think um but the the uh the phone phone booth ringing you know and the introduction of
SPEAKER_04:i love that movie too phone booth
SPEAKER_05:good movie the new threat right the the true Spoilers, it's on a bus. He comes up with this plan. He had to have had this backup plan, I guess, but it's a solid fucking plan, but it's the big introduction after this. Does anybody else find the phone call really effective? The, hey, hot shot, pop quiz. Pop quiz, hot shot. What do you do? It's all... And Hopper is good. And you can tell that it's personal now, because he's like... Taking shit that he heard, because he heard everything they said in that elevator.
SPEAKER_02:They did.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. So he's just like taking everything they said and turning it against him. He's like, okay, you're going to fuck with what I wanted. I'm going to fuck with what you want. Oh, it's so personal. I feel it in the performance and the dynamic between the two of them. And they share almost no screen time, which is so fucking great. This whole second act, which is dense, they're never actually together. It's true. But he is with Sandy and the bus. It's probably good because Hopper is famously a horrible person to work with. So they probably were just like, we're going to put you in a little room with a bunch of televisions by yourself. And that's you. That's what you get to do. I'm in here baiting. Okay. I'm going to hold the phone like this then. Okay. We're like, do what you want to do, man. Your cocaine is in the corner. Can we ask why? You cannot
SPEAKER_03:ask me why.
SPEAKER_05:Cocaine. Is he on the phone too? If he's on the phone like this, I'm going to be on a phone like this. It'll be dynamic. It's evil. It's more evil. You don't get it. When Keanu goes on this great fucking chase in the Bronco
SPEAKER_03:as
SPEAKER_05:like trying to go 50 in LA, it's fucking perilous enough and ends up stealing the Jaguar after he almost is able to get on the bus and stop this whole fucking thing. fucking thing from happening. The movie's done. And has to steal, commandeer someone's car, Toon Man's car. And as you were saying, guys, he cares about everybody. And so before he busts this guy's door, he says, do you have insurance? Which the city would have paid for it anyway. But he's still ass. Take the damn phone. It's so good. Glenn Plummer is great. Again, the movie's just so rich with great characters. also it's amazing that the bus doesn't just stop yes
SPEAKER_04:well yeah in that scene right there he pulls in front of the bus so he can write the sign and at that moment that slows the bus down but and then he's like
SPEAKER_05:no no no no because they already went over 50 right so like right if he had gotten there before that then he could have just like pulled in front and stopped right and just like stop the whole thing when the paper flies up and hits the bus that says bomb on bus that's where i'm like movie over It could have been over two minutes ago. It's over now.
SPEAKER_03:In no way does that guy keep driving.
UNKNOWN:But movies gotta happen.
SPEAKER_05:If this episode slows down, if we slow down, it'll blow. Alright, we gotta keep going. We gotta keep going. He gets on the fucking bus and the whole time they've been showing that dude nervous about the cop coming on the
SPEAKER_02:bus. Yeah,
SPEAKER_05:yeah, yeah. And then he finally just pulls a gun and it's just like, I'm not fucking here for you dude like stop i like his tactic i think it's hilarious that people don't believe him when he's like i was willing to die to get on this bus to keep it moving and people are like come on are you sure are you sure yes whatever crime you committed it's fine it's all good i mean at that point that's a good tactic because i think it works if you don't want to kill everybody right now you need to put that gun down And I had to do something much more important But of course He shoots the fucking bus driver If Miss Frizzle was here This episode of Magic School Bus Would be way different Ortiz wouldn't have tried to be a fucking hero Miss Frizzle would have talked everybody down Because Ortiz like jumps in And tries to be a citizen hero And fucks everything up Gigantor Ortiz
SPEAKER_04:Gotta love the nicknames I love the nicknames they get Ma'am or Gigantor So good. Wildcat. Wildcat. Oh,
SPEAKER_05:my fate. We love a wildcat. Absolutely. But Harry is now helping. And it's great just in passing the exposition of like, yeah, guess where Jack is? He's on the bus. And Harry and Howard are both watching what's happening on the news. We know that's happening. And Jack is able to check the bomb. A pretty big what? When he gets under the but when he gets into the bus and sees it through the access panel. Yeah. Fuck me. Oh yeah. Oh darn. Oh
SPEAKER_04:yeah. It's having him kind of the relay system. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Gold watch. Couldn't help himself. It's so great. You think he's being sloppy because he rushed it. Like that's their feeling. It's great, but he did it on purpose. We find that out later. Yeah. But their, their belief is that he just, he had to rush it and use that, but now they know he's next cop. And so that's, the that's the most important part right is like that's the thread they're gonna follow he's he's an encyclopedia of bombs he knows every kind and then we just get into this like cavalcade of issues with the bus it can't go under 50 and like you're in you're in LA the whole time yeah you're driving through LA and then you have to get strollers full of cans when they're on the freeway and he's like like stay on or get off stay on or get off and he's just get off I'm like get off get off a freeway I mean, it's jammed up, but yeah, but you're going to go into the side streets and try to go 50. It's so unbelievable. It's ridiculous. It is ridiculous that their chemistry though, starts to carry the movie for me a little bit here. I really like it. I think it's great, especially considering that really we're watching this movie in real time. Right. So like barely, they, they barely have that much time together, but it, they're a crisis situation and right. Shouldn't date. someone you met in a highly traumatic experience, but they do have such a great, it's not just a chemistry, but they have a great like partnership and like understand, like they have like a shorthand and they can talk in a way where they understand each other, which I think is really strong. And, and the movie doesn't lean too hard into the cheesiness of the romance, not really later. It's not about that, right? It's about getting the fuck off this bus and saving these people.
SPEAKER_04:You could see the chemistry without it being overly played, you know? Yeah. They're just, it's just in body language moment, like light little moment lines that are said between them in this high intense situation, which is.
SPEAKER_05:Chris, what you're saying, I think is absolutely right. It's little things like I'm not available to drive tomorrow and just little tiny lines, little tiny things that happen in the edit. Like we've all been saying what the camera's telling us.
SPEAKER_04:What did you, what did you, it's like, I don't have my license. What for speeding?
SPEAKER_05:It's so good. That moment was like such a little like,
SPEAKER_04:oh, like they both had that moment.
SPEAKER_05:Him getting Sam off the bus. And finally getting to talk to Hopper. Yeah. Talk to Hopper and Beth Grant's death. The camera sells it so well before it happens. You care about her because she has these couple little exchanges with Sandy Bullock and she's trying to be brave and she just can't take it. And Howard kills and we know that this gruesome thing happens mostly in that moment because he's seeing what's happening on the news live well that's what we assume yeah right and also like we see that he has like bombs placed around that aren't just a big bomb right like uh but also the SWAT guys that are like yeah come on come on come on yeah come on come on what are you guys doing fuck you guys got it no right like yeah you got it did no one tell you
SPEAKER_02:that is dangerous uh that was yeah that was moment I was like but
SPEAKER_05:the the when they shoot the whatever the mannequin that goes under the tire it's good it's gruesome and it's awful it's pretty bad that it's
SPEAKER_04:rated R I'm thinking about this movie nowadays with a with a moment like that I mean that's got to be one of them the rated R moments like why this movie is rated R
SPEAKER_02:somebody
SPEAKER_04:gets run over by a bus and like why if you were
SPEAKER_02:trying to do this movie now they'd be like oh just don't have him get run over by the bus but like no You need that.
SPEAKER_05:I agree. Oh, right. Cause they wanted to hit the four quadrants and they wanted to be PG 13. Right. No, you need this. I agree with you, Chris. You need to come through this 200 years to say, fuck you. Like, it's not just the fuck you. It's the brutality of death. Like why you're constantly rooting for Jack is that you don't want these things to happen to these people. And he's apparently the only one really capable of keeping it from happening. And, And the tensions on the bus are building between everyone. And I'm wondering at this point, is there a bathroom on this bus? No. 100% no. But, you know, city buses are basically bathrooms. Yeah, this is not how LA buses are, people. Not at all. I was just thinking, Paul, about how Maximum Overdrive tries to do a lot of what this movie does well, which is it puts a bunch of strangers in a high tense situation together and makes it about the tension and the drama of be also being just together in this space. And they, this movie does that really well with this group of people while maximum overdrive does not do
SPEAKER_02:it. Yeah. I mean, over you, you feel the tension in your chest the entire time they're on that.
SPEAKER_05:And the score and the editing and all of that has a huge part of that. The moment that Sandra Bullock has here where, when she explains that she thought the bomb going off was the last moment of her life. I think that is so fucking fantastic. And the level of support that Keanu gives her. You watch this movie and you understand why they've continued to work together. Because they have a level of, someone said, shorthand chemistry. The freeway was not finished. Oh, I love that reveal. The 50 feet or coming into football season. He finished on the map. Yeah, well, I guess he got behind schedule. Yeah, when he pulled out the map, he's got the map on this open car going 50 miles an hour, and they're just like talking. And then he starts whispering to them when it's like 50 miles an hour out to this bus store. I'm like, how could you hear this guy? 50 feet. 50 feet. There's an obsession with 50 in this movie. There really is. 25 plus 25? 50. Good job. Is this an Illuminati movie?
SPEAKER_02:he just
SPEAKER_05:got new top secret it's a top secret i think you might be right it might be a top secret the jump though is fucking hilarious the fact that there are no obstacles in front of the bus slow it down just like don't do it like it starts to feel like looney tunes like the camp starts to come in i love it nobody poopies or peepees from vertical to like like a 90 degree it's just it's just jackknifed just like straight up and you're like where or it's like 75 degrees it's like how in what like were there hydraulics underneath that bus and then when that thing hits these guys are gonna go flying in the bus oh yeah they all kept control of their bowels remember I mean also this isn't one of those buses with like the accordion thing or anything so it's just like how many fucking this is an early 90s bus it's like a 1964 None of the tires blow. No problemo. They land and Joe Morton literally goes, let's go! Let's not talk about popped tires and then
SPEAKER_04:continuing to drive around for an hour above 50. We'll get there.
SPEAKER_05:The driving into LAX, unfortunately the tire getting shredded happens, but that's obviously so smart. And the Alan Ruck line of, I've already seen the airport like just like tripling down on his self-centeredness so far. When they first show the sign to LAX, I'm like, Oh, there's no way you're getting there at 50 miles an hour.
SPEAKER_02:No,
SPEAKER_05:like to get off the freeway and get to LAX at 50 miles an hour with all the lights and the fucking traffic. And like, no, obviously before nine 11, they just let them drive onto the tarmac and there's still like planes in operation. Cause we see one get blown to fucking shit later, but like, Oh yeah. So like, like, we'll just operate as normal. They didn't clear the runways or anything. I think it was a, uh,
SPEAKER_04:no, that was, it was a, uh, a new track that they were building or something or they said they were like, Oh, that's the,
SPEAKER_05:uh, yeah, but they're still like, right. So, so they're basically, they realize they can just like drive on the tarmac and he's putting, Jack's putting together the, the dots that he called, uh, Sandy Bullock, uh, wildcat. Right.
SPEAKER_02:So he's putting it together that you went to air. You went to Arizona?
SPEAKER_05:You went to Arizona. Pretty good football team. Is that Johnny Utah? I don't know. Is that a thing? Don't forget about Jack going to examine the bomb. Oh, God. He gets off. He gets off. He gets off. He gets off the bus, and then they're like, we need someone to go under the bus and expect it. How about this guy who just got off the bus and must be exhausted? Yeah, he must be really tired. They only trust me. The bus only trusts me. The bus has money. I've imprinted on the bus. I'm going to go
SPEAKER_04:on this little piece of metal with four wheels and a cable and go 50 miles
SPEAKER_05:an hour underneath the bus. Very Indiana Jones. It is. I love this little sequence. It's fun. It feels very Spielberg-y. It's like very hero-y shit. And I love when he's like, you want me to cut the sheath and not the wire? And it's like, yeah, just use wire cutters in the way they're designed to work and just are strippers because I'm sure you have those. Don't you literally work for a bomb squad? Yeah. Like, what is your job? Swat. I'm so confused. What is his job? Sparkle motion. Swat. LAPD. I love, like, when shit goes wrong because of this flat tire, put a fucking knife into, or screwdriver, right into the gas tank. The way he's flailing is so great. It's so relatable. He's, like, pouring all over his mouth. He's just like... Yeah, the naked gun version of this. he'd just be like Zoolander drinking
SPEAKER_03:the gas yeah
SPEAKER_05:so one question I had is when they help him into the bus how does he get into the bus without his feet hitting the ground because like just physically like if you grabbed him he just stays completely like yeah angular and then it's like yeah so it's like you turn him and then he does look pretty ripped under there so I yeah he's a surfer man he's a surfer Pappas, Sandy Bullock says, you felt you needed another challenge or something. That's one of those things in writing that does such a good job for me to go all these little devices that have happened through this. I'm fine with it. Cause they know totally fine. Yeah. Even just the little conceit of her being like, not funny, Jack and hitting him and then going, what's that smell? Like, yeah, it's like, it's, it's both like just that little, it's both a character moment for her and you get the little relationship stuff but also a great pushing of plot and that's that's what this movie does so well throughout where you're not these things we're talking about that feel like contrived they're they're mostly like physical things they're not like emotional or character things so yeah as you're saying this we're saying goodbye to harry to my point of like this movie is not afraid to kill people yeah they take a known star actor in pretty decent sized role that in most movies you'd assume he's gonna make it and he has a great story that he's inspired in this moment where the bomb essentially has been the shark if you're Roy Scheider and that when he sees the sensor bomb arm and it does that great shot of him it's his version of Roy Scheider like the shark introduced to him where he just turns his face up just slightly like oh fucking shit like the level of panic is so severe that that's all he can do it's such a great actor-y fucking nerdy cool story that like the shark eventually because he's kind of like the Robert Shaw of this like I don't know but it eventually catches up and gets him and it's just script wise it's a great increasing the stakes for Jack it's now even it's now more personal
SPEAKER_04:yeah
SPEAKER_05:well the way that that hopper still as he's saying that he intentionally used the gold watch to lure them in he also can't help himself but say watch that wildcat behind the wheel and we love a wildcat oh yeah who are we the wildcats who are we gonna be the wildcats we love a wildcat
SPEAKER_03:he can't
SPEAKER_05:help but give himself up and jack figures out it there's a CCTV watching them and they're at the
SPEAKER_03:whim of a madman. The whim of a
SPEAKER_05:madman. I would have loved to see Hopper's Joker. Watching this with Brandon Marino because he's staying here right now.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, cool. I thought I saw him walk by.
SPEAKER_05:We were watching it and he was like, this is giving me really strong Danny DeVito Penguin vibes.
SPEAKER_03:I love that.
SPEAKER_04:There was one of the lines that he has when he's in the room with all the TVs that kind of
SPEAKER_02:transcended time a bit, where he was like, something happened and saw it happen on the TV. I feel
SPEAKER_04:like I'm... What is his line? He's like, I'm manipulating live television... in the moment it's like he's watching it happen on the TV and it was such a futuristic now thing that's happening where things that happen right now you're seeing on TV automatically and he says it in this movie in 94 where he's like wave of the
SPEAKER_05:future Jack
SPEAKER_04:yeah
SPEAKER_05:yeah he's like wave of the future it's happening live action
SPEAKER_04:live action TV at the edge of my fingertips or something he says and it's that line was like It kind of haunted me a little bit because we live in that world now of stuff happening instantly and we're just watching it live.
SPEAKER_05:And this, and he does feel like one of those people that would like run a truck through a bunch of, like, he feels like one of those fucking psycho terrorists that would snap, take out a bunch of civilians to prove a point. The casting in this movie, Risa Brayman Garcia and Billy Hopkins, the casting in this movie is phenomenal. They all fit in the world. I know. the movie's not super grounded at all times, but they're really grounded in the approaches and in the feelings. And Hopper is, I don't know if, is he watching from his business? Where are, where does he have this bank of tea? Did he just go into some random book depot on, on the street in Dallas? That's Homer Simpson. That's Homer Simpson. It's not the grassy. No. Yeah. It feels just like, I don't know. He's squatting. Maybe it's, of feels like the riddler's lair later in batman forever like this weird little i believe he would kill somebody who had that business and just go in like he's very menacing i love this is where i was like is this how ph is this how cameras work they can like tap into a signal and like like my talk to the news guys yeah my brains i'm like so they can they can manipulate the signal of a v of the camera with a vcr i don't know what's happening i don't i'm yeah it's something about uhf signals and them being able to essentially bounce it or something they try to loop it loop it they try to go over yeah very had to drop her purse yeah i know right that's the thing that fucks them over but they they do get everybody unloaded and uh jack and annie off or wait jack and annie jack jack jack and jack jill's off and God damn it. Here's a little story about Jack and Annie. Jack and Diane. So the money trap is sprung. The bus is done. Now we get trains. The second act of the movie is all bus. I forgot it. It goes elevator, bus, trains. Good. Speed 2 should have been a train, but they cut that
SPEAKER_04:out. That's why Speed 2 wasn't a success because they did it in Speed 1. There's a lot of
SPEAKER_05:reasons Speed 2 isn't a success. Mostly because they couldn't get Keanu back. Are you sure? Are you sure? Speed 2? Or not Speed 2, Speed... Speeds. Speeds. Is that Willem Dafoe?
SPEAKER_06:He has a special connection
SPEAKER_05:to classical music. The money trap and the edit that happens just when it cuts to the canister in the ground. Even some of their goofy equipment and everything, the way that it's cut around, it's just working. And Sandy getting taken hostage by this guy who I mean, he was SWAT. He knows the underground. It works. The hostage taking and going underground and making her wear the bomb and repeating everything. It's all, it all works for me. I recently rewatched Mission Impossible Rogue Nation. Good movie. And it's a great movie. It's my favorite mission, actually. I don't think it's the best one, but it's my favorite one.
SPEAKER_04:That's what counts. MI1 is hard to...
SPEAKER_05:MI1's great. Fallout's great. Ghost Protocol's great. They do a similar thing with Simon Pegg in that where he where he has a bomb vest and he has an earpiece in and he is just repeating what the terrorist is saying yeah to Ethan and I thought I was like oh maybe they you know it's a little bit of a speed you know that's cool I didn't think of that when I saw the movie I he's been looking at the back or side of this woman's head though for hours and he's just like fuck you don't move freeze fucker whatever yeah oh it's you oh no you the hot chick it was until she hit the corner where the light was. Oh, sorry. My fault. My fault. I do like where it becomes a little more about class even for Howard to make him even more unlikable. Because it's like, you're taking this retired cop with an injury that you're now making a psycho. And I like that it's going there. But he also does this class thing where Jack is like, you're crazy. And Dennis Hopper goes, poor people are crazy jack i'm eccentric where it's like i have too much money and status to be crazy i'm not crazy and i like some lex luther shit it's great it's a great line yeah it's a good one and then you know this whole train sequence which i think wild for the for the entire uh population of the united states they all were introduced to the fact that la has trains and they work how exactly what and then they're under they're underground la where it's like yeah there's like two tracks and one of them just goes north to south. And this is that one. But that
SPEAKER_04:was the one that was getting built right under the Chinese theater.
SPEAKER_05:Well, there is, well, there is one in Hollywood for sure, but it, that isn't where it has a stop, but that's the, the train station where he's in. That is the, I believe the North Hollywood train station. I think you're right. And then. Is any of that electric spaghetti down any of that neon sign shit that's in this movie down there? It looks like they, It's still there. Okay. I was going to say it looks like they make it look so crisp and clean and like not, oh yeah, urine. You have to remember this 1994, right? And it's new. It's pretty new at that point. Somehow all of that shit has gone back in time and now it looks like it's in 1974. So if you take the train, you'll wait 45 minutes for it and you'll probably get stabbed. Probably. Are you sure? The subway chase though through the corridors and on to the train and Dennis Hopper, is that working for everybody? The Dennis Hopper stuff where he's like, you're not going to feel it. It's not. The funny thing to me that's is he has this dead man's trigger and then suddenly he's shooting a gun.
SPEAKER_02:He's got it.
SPEAKER_05:But you got to hold this. He's putting handcuffs on her. I'm like the pure thing of dead man trigger and shooting a gun. I was like, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_04:Which finger? He gives her the dead man trigger at one point.
SPEAKER_05:He does. But at one point he has the dead man trigger and he has this like AK or whatever. Yeah. And he's shooting it. And I'm like, what, how are you, what, how is this happening? There's just so much to manage there that I'm like, I don't believe that this person wouldn't just accidentally blow themselves up at any moment.
SPEAKER_04:No. Yeah. They, they got to this moment where they're, he's jugged. They're like, Oh shit. He's juggling like five things right now. And, and now he actually has a scene partner and this is a lot of work.
SPEAKER_05:You hit it right on the head where it's like, got the dead man trigger in the MP5 and he's like cutting an orange and he's making a bagel. And, and, You can't keep up with it. It does this great thing where it foreshadows Jack's great one-liner. Great one-liner. Yeah, well, I'm taller. Boys, I'm smarter. Yeah, well, I'm taller. I wonder how many they tried. I don't know, but Keanu noticing that light and having to dodge it and them ending up there and the light being the thing that takes them out. Gotta say, Full decapitation. Instant
SPEAKER_04:decapitation.
SPEAKER_05:The body doesn't go flying. It just decapitates. But he can roll around on top of there. That's how fast they're going. I'll rip your spine out, I swear to God. He wasn't kidding. Because it got his head and spine. Similar to Danny DeVito as the penguin, I'm challenged to believe that he's any sort of physical that he would be able to have any sort of threat to Keanu and he's also punching him with the dead man trigger I'm like yes wouldn't you want like you will die too right movies over fifth or sixth time now at least yeah I was just like why aren't you protecting and also like Jack too you're punching the dude and you're you could throw him off this train any with any punch and he has the fucking dead man trigger
SPEAKER_02:whatever
SPEAKER_05:I feel like there's not a lot of like thought put into that but i do like i do like when they can't of course he shot the fucking so here's another guy who died he shot the fucking driver conductor dude dude guy and the train can't go and he the train keeps going so they have they don't have the key and after the handcuffs that sandy is like handcuffed to this bar on and i was just like man that's a pretty shittily made train i'm sure you could go to the roof of where that's bolted in and just fucking put your body into it and take it out. Keanu is putting his everything and he wouldn't take that bar out. If it's anybody, I will, the movies even squeezing in, like where's pain. He lost his head. Like it's squeezing in one liners as the train has to, we got to speed it up. Cause the answer is always a second job. At the end of the movie,
SPEAKER_04:they throw in another
SPEAKER_05:one. Luckily he knows that there's just a path that goes up to a, a road how does he know like why oh good call i forgot
SPEAKER_04:it's the neck it's the neck brace with the earpiece you know
SPEAKER_05:it's the it's the sparkle unicorn
SPEAKER_04:motion whatever yeah oh yeah that was the second i was like wait are they throwing in a second jump at the end of the movie here with they should have just
SPEAKER_05:taken the train like the next shot should have been the train on the freeway it's like it just comes out of the ground and jumps the freeway again and goes into the sky and goes past the moon just keeps going this is great It's just the end of Greece. Or just done the cut back to the bus doing the land. The same exact cut. They didn't get a cut of the train. Yeah, the train. I kind of like that it takes the elevator deboarding of hostages and repeats it kind of with the bus. Alan Ruck is like the last person essentially to get off because not only does he want to try to be gentlemanly for being a shit the whole movie, but he also is like mildly scared. There's like some... for that guy being such a shit. But I will say like, as much as I would like to see the pattern broken and not with like a crash versus a bus continuing to go, but the train going by the moon, that model work and the force perspective and stuff is really, really cool. This is the kind of shit that I really miss in movies. That's like done with CG or whatnot. These miniatures that people just killed themselves over and it looks so cool. great. The audio is so great. And the train hits Hollywood Boulevard and then it's a totally different. We got the Lord of the Rings. And it's a different train.
SPEAKER_04:We got the Lord of the Rings ending. Where everybody's just there.
SPEAKER_05:They're on the ground and everybody's just there video like,
SPEAKER_03:yay!
SPEAKER_05:Clapping at them. It's like looking at them.
SPEAKER_03:I can't believe you hit my van! Yeah. They hit my van!
SPEAKER_05:And they're playing, what was it? What is it they're playing at the Chinese theater? 2001. 2001. doesn't want a space odyssey. Oh, is that, was that, was that what was up there? I missed that. That's great. I think that's a, that was a Fox release or was, yeah. And the movie just box at the time. Well, I mean, we get the idea that they're going to bone in this train. And I was like, Oh, can I say the
SPEAKER_04:line? Can I say it? Please. Relationships based on an intense experiences never work. We'll have to base it on sex then.
SPEAKER_05:When she says that. yeah what what happens well when she says when she says that i can't think of a word that i would i'm not gonna say any of the words i just love that these people are like pictures i'm like they're just like filming it the guy has a video camera like an old school video camera then he's like and then what's weird is like during the credits it's just hardcore porn speed that's what i need and they're just power fucking it's insane this is fucking speaking of speed What do people think of the movie called Crank? I haven't seen it forever. I'd have to see it again. I think this movie is a precursor
SPEAKER_04:to that.
SPEAKER_05:I think this movie is a precursor to most action movies.
SPEAKER_04:I think I said it earlier. I think the Crank phone booth was based off of that one shot of the phone booth. I think that movie was based off of that.
SPEAKER_05:This movie, it's incredible that it's two hours long. It's absolutely incredible that it's two hours. And I think 55, I think there are a lot more movies that take from it than it takes from diehard, for instance, which was brought up. I think the little devices that it uses through the movie all the time, like it becomes its own thing. Does it, does it stand on the shoulders of giants at times? Yeah. But I think it's its own thing. Christopher, we've talked about speed. Do you have any final thoughts, re-speed?
SPEAKER_04:Man.
SPEAKER_05:Did we miss anything?
SPEAKER_04:Did we miss anything? Jumping off the bus? Jumping off the train. Jumping off the elevator.
SPEAKER_05:Jumping out of the car. I know. Really, it should have been a plane for the next one. We love vehicles. People love movies with vehicles.
SPEAKER_04:I just want to make sure we hit all of the top one-liners. Right before the bus jumps, he goes,
SPEAKER_02:everybody hold on. Great one-liner.
SPEAKER_05:What are you going to hold on to? One of the classics.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on. Wipe your No,
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I think it's, uh, this movie just like we just said, it kind of really set up a lot of kind of intense action movies for the, for the rest of the nineties into the early two thousands. Right. You know, like you
SPEAKER_02:said, crank, have you ever guys, have you ever seen the movie nonstop?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. With Liam Neeson.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I think.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. It's takes place. I'm like, take the fucking elephant. Yeah. I don't know there's just like so many movies that I think this movie kind of influenced that I do wish I know we have such crazy big budget action movies nowadays and stuff and I don't know this is such a simple action movie that I
SPEAKER_05:is that to its credit or are you discrediting
SPEAKER_04:no I think it's to its credit you know that it's so simple and I think that's why you know you go later on and you get the you know you with Keanu, you get the matrix. I mean, what a crazy world action building world that we're talking about, you know, and I'm trying to, I'm trying to compare what action movies right now that are coming out that are, that could be kind of in the same world.
SPEAKER_05:That's all guys. The only one I can think of. Good luck. Yeah. Good luck. Like fall guy. I feel like is, is the closest we've gotten to in a long time to something like this. Yeah. Yeah. So has your rating changed? You were at four Kianos. Four Kianos?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I think I'm going to, I'm going to
SPEAKER_04:hold, I'm going to hold
SPEAKER_02:at
SPEAKER_04:four.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:I wanted, I was
SPEAKER_05:going to, I want to hold. You are allowed quarter measures by the way. Oh, he's activated the Liberty rule. All right. So you can, you can go to 25s and 75s if
SPEAKER_04:you would like. The limit does not exist.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. If you would like, I'm not trying to push you.
SPEAKER_04:I want to go, I want to go 3.75 Keanu's. You went down.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. Wow. All right. Well, okay. It's me now. Paul's going to go down on you. I think he's going to go up on us.
SPEAKER_04:It was
SPEAKER_05:just
SPEAKER_04:the ending. I had to really process that ending, the train sequence again. I think it just, you know,
SPEAKER_05:I think it builds to it. I think it earns it. I think the whole movie is a little ridiculous. I think when it leans into the camp that it does it intentionally, it feels fun. And I think that's all the movie maybe is really trying to do. I like it. that it has some of these little like flubs that we've talked about and like where it's like how does that bus like drive through fucking side guard whatever it is guard rails like or 55 posts and never slow I don't really care I just want cars
SPEAKER_02:I want everybody on the top of the rut everybody moved to the right of the bus
SPEAKER_05:well works out fine I think the movie in the entirety of the experience is great fuck it I love a wildcat I'm I'm going to stay at the 4.5. I am not allowed quarter measures.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:I'm going to stay at the 4.5. I didn't hear anybody say
SPEAKER_04:anything. Gold watches? You said gold watches?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, thank you. Four and a half gold watches. Thank
SPEAKER_04:you, Christopher.
SPEAKER_05:I didn't hear anything that anybody seemed really bothered by that I didn't really expect, I guess. And everything about the movie that we've kind of poked at, I expected kind of to poke at. So I was most mostly okay with that. I guess I didn't expect the Dennis Hopper and Penguin comparison. Similar hands also. Is that a thing? Four and a half gold watches. It was the same hand. It was the same prosthetic. His thumb was actually, I was going to say, was that guy's nose. I'm going to also stay at my four bullets in your buddy's legs because you got to shoot your buddies. Got to shoot your buddies. I love this movie. I will continually watch this movie. This movie has a bunch of fucking ridiculous jumps in logic and gaps in physics that I'm okay with, but they're there. Four is very high. Four is super high. And again, this is again, for me, a definitive action set piece of a movie for the 90s. And Keanu is a big part of that. Everyone should watch this movie. If you haven't seen Speed and you're listening to this, you're fucking dumb. You're not dumb. You're eccentric. You're eccentric. If they're poor, they're fucking dumb. And
SPEAKER_04:just so everybody knows, my ranking system, one Keanu is two of your guys' whatever you have. It's Keanu.
SPEAKER_05:I think that's fair. So that means if you're at 3.75, you're at 7.5 Keanu's.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Well, we did let, I mean, Paul, we did let Sam go to six. Absolutely. I'm
SPEAKER_03:thinking I'm
SPEAKER_05:back. So I didn't realize you'd be that high on this.
SPEAKER_04:As I said, I love this movie. That's why I went down a little bit because I missed the bus getting pulled by the cord. You guys taught me some things today that I definitely want to go watch this movie again.
SPEAKER_05:So I, on the movies that I really love that I know are not great movies, I'll out of heart like where it's like I know this is not a four star five star movie I get that but I will watch it again and again and again is this one of those movies for you that you put like a heart on it like you just watch it over and over
SPEAKER_04:okay
SPEAKER_05:that adds up
SPEAKER_04:yeah yeah this is one of those movies that I could just have on on the TV while I'm doing things yeah ever it's
SPEAKER_05:you know what I mean yeah thank you so much for bringing this to us and I'm so glad I got to read rewatch this movie. I'm reminded about how much I love it. Chris, if people, again, once again, want to find you or see you, where can they do so?
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