The Review Review
Hosts Ben and Paul welcome special guests from all walks of life to watch, rate, discuss, and RERATE the films close to their hearts. You'll laugh (hopefully), you'll cry (maybe), you'll reconsider everything you have ever known! Welcome, to "The Review Review"
The Review Review
Best In Show / Groupon Colonic? (Guest: Sara Coates)
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Actor Sara Coates has returned for our all comedy “March Movie Madness,” and is ready to harshly judge her own choice "Best In Show," (2000 d. Christopher Guest) Starring: Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara (RIP), and Christopher Guest himself. There's certainly a human illuminati, but could there be a dog illuminati? Could we be a part of both? These ponderings, kids rockin' costumes, elite junk food, statements on children's programming ("Bluey" & "Puffin Rock") and the majesty of the one and only Catherine O'Hara. All that and somehow, someway, EVEN MORE in this episode. LUCKY YOU! 3/17!
**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root
So a Catholic priest, a monk, and a rabbi, they uh oh, we're recording. Uh well, they all end up dead in a brothel in the end. Hi, I'm Glib Troutman. I'm your announcer here at the Review Review movie podcast. Is that right? Uh Ben, you're the co-host here, right? That's what this it's a movie podcast. Which is it? A movie and a podcast are what now? Um when was the movie? When did that come about?
SPEAKER_03Well, the movie uh the film came about.
SPEAKER_11That's great. That reminds me, I need to check a ticket and I need to see what's going on with a bathtub and uh something that I have in the oven. We'll be back to that and back to this later on. But hey, I'm Paul, I'm your co-host here on the Review Review. That was Ben. That was a bit we did.
SPEAKER_03We did a bit. We did a little bit.
Guest Intro
SPEAKER_07But I love that bit.
SPEAKER_11You're too nice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh, the person too nice right now is return guest, Sarah Coates.
SPEAKER_06Oh my gosh, it's my turkey. It's my third time. I'm so happy to be here.
SPEAKER_03So good. Yeah. We love having you on this program. Uh, Paul, do you want to talk about this program or do you want me to talk about this program?
SPEAKER_11I think I've talked enough for now, if that's okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay. We're all gonna do Fred Willard impersonations throughout this.
SPEAKER_11Without a doubt.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure.
SPEAKER_11More pulling on the organ.
SPEAKER_03You brought us you brought us the movie Best in Show for our podcast for the review review. This program is a movie podcast where a guest, a lovely guest, will bring us a movie. Uh, and this movie happens to fall into every necessary category for the movie's brought. That means it's seven years old or older, it's not marked part of a major franchise, and it's something that the guests feel strongly about and can talk about with a couple of jackasses at nauseum. And uh, we might come to an understanding of what our rating is out of five. And that rating system is from Letterboxd.
SPEAKER_11It is. Is this our first Christopher Guest? It's our era. You made it.
SPEAKER_06Is it your first Christopher Guest?
SPEAKER_11Our first Christopher Guest.
SPEAKER_06Wow. I feel honored. I feel, and I feel like you guys would have done many because to me, your bodies of work would fit into crest Christopher Guest's style art. I think you guys would both pop into one of his films geniusly.
SPEAKER_03So wow. I think I would say the same about you.
SPEAKER_01Stop!
SPEAKER_03Tell me more. This is too much. This is too much.
SPEAKER_11I've I've always gotten too much of a good thing, baby. And I know that we're already doing it. I'm trying, I'm forcing it.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, you guys are the announcers at the Mayflower Kennel Club talk show.
SPEAKER_11I felt so bad for Ben watching this movie.
SPEAKER_06Because you're like, oh, that is me. That is me. Well, it's what's so fantastic about Christopher Guest films mainly is he's showing us real life absurdity in such a beautiful, campy way because every character, as wild and big as they are, are someone you know, seen, been around, and it's just it's just so beautiful.
SPEAKER_03I don't think you get a lot of cringe humor things interview style, especially like think the office, think parks and rec. Think of everything that came after this on TV.
SPEAKER_11That I don't think any of that comes if you don't have Christopher Guest making absolutely not, and all these things turning up to 11. Like, that's literally all of them do. Like, and this is where it kind of originates from you mentioned a few things that I've talked about as we've been in in the infancy of this talk, but like dodgeball with uh Jesus Bateman and Gary Cole, and just so many things that came after this or around the time are so close that are so Christopher guest coded.
SPEAKER_03We're getting so far ahead of ourselves.
SPEAKER_06Sorry, sorry, sorry, it's my fault. Go.
SPEAKER_11No, but you're you're so right in terms of the relatability of like I I know this person, and I've seen them at 11, or I I know they're like this at 11.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, we're so lucky.
SPEAKER_03We're so lucky.
SPEAKER_11Sarah, I have to ask before we get to one of the inevitable questions. Can you talk about what you do and some of the things you have done and who you are beat and where you in my life? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, guys, my name is Sarah Coates, and I'm an actor. Question mark. No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_03You know, you're back. Question mark who this is. You are an actor.
SPEAKER_06It was funny because when I was thinking about doing this podcast, and you guys are probably gonna be like, hey Sarah, what are you working on? And I'm like, Well, this podcast.
SPEAKER_07So that's cool.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, overthrowing the government and slowly slipping into memories. Yeah, those are the things that I have been going on. You know, I am an actor, I've done TV and film and commercials, and I was recently the voice of IHOP. So, you know, thriving, living the dream, if you will.
SPEAKER_11I think we talked about iHop last time you were on the show because we we were both curious if you got free iHop, and the answer was no, absolutely not, which is insane considering that you can get the fucking like boysenberry syrup pancake, whatever it's like six dollars, five dollars for a short stack.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like a girl up. Like I mean, it's a good it's a solid pancake, but like they're writing my checks, but they're not giving me pancakes.
SPEAKER_03So it would save them money to get a deal.
SPEAKER_06I mean, honestly. Honestly, it absolutely in the deal. But that's kind of who I am. And I knew Ben from Seattle, go Seahawks. Good. What a great win.
SPEAKER_03Riding high. We got to uh we got to Paul and I got to watch that game together. It's you. And it was we actually watched both the Rams game, which I feel like was more uh uh scary.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Than than the Super Bowls. Super Bowl. Oh no that this is scary. That is dangerous. Um and uh then we got to watch Super Bowl together. And yeah, it was a blast. Um we have another important question though, Sarah Co.
SPEAKER_06Oh yes, go ahead.
What You Been Doin?
SPEAKER_03What have you been doing? What have you been doing?
SPEAKER_06What have I been doing?
SPEAKER_04What have you been doing? What have you been doing?
SPEAKER_06I am a mom of a three-year-old daughter who is a little, and this I don't want this to sound negative, but she's a little freak in the best way. Like this girl loves to wear costume. She's wearing an E.T. costume every day since Halloween.
SPEAKER_03And it's creepy. It has backwards.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I love Adria. She's the funniest, coolest person in the world. Um, we did 12th night together years ago, and it was it was just we fell in love and we were like, okay, we need to spend every summer together.
SPEAKER_11I have a question about 12th night, and you two are Shakespeare people, have Shakespeare background to a degree.
SPEAKER_03Yes, but it's been a minute. I am related to William Shakespeare, yeah.
SPEAKER_11Outside of high school, I have no experience with that. I've heard that 12th night is the thing that everybody wants to do at whatever point.
SPEAKER_03I think 12th, uh, I mean, no, please. I think of of the comedies, I think 12th night is the best. I think it's a blast, I think is the the most fun. And the actual like a lot of the comedies aren't necessarily contemporarily funny. And I think 12th night actually is funny.
SPEAKER_06It's funny, and it's translates, yeah. And it's fun, it's romantic, it's yeah, and if you're if you're doing it in a park and you don't know where your exits and entrances are, and you're doing it like different every every park day. Yeah, and it it's a true blast. It was a true blast. But my three-year-old loves ET. We for Christmas, we got her so many costumes, and every day she's putting on something more hilarious, and she started doing like a Tim Allen, huh? Like she was just walking to a room. It's does she listen to this? Right? No, I don't teach her these things, they are just it.
SPEAKER_11Don't let her listen to this.
SPEAKER_06It's so I mean, she would love it. She's she's just a nut. And so that's kind of what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_09She's Sarah.
SPEAKER_06Is she a ribasio nut? That god, we'll get to the nuts.
SPEAKER_03A walnut, which is not actually a nut.
SPEAKER_09Rolling right off a tea and roof.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, I could laugh for the rest of my life. Um, yeah, that's me. And then I have a 13-year-old French bulldog um who is harder to take care of than a toddler. And I don't know if you saw, I sent you a DM. Three dogs. I go this morning at 8 30 in the morning, I go out onto my porch. There's three dogs looking at me. It's us, it's the three of us. Oh it was it was to me a sign, you guys are doing this podcast tonight. Okay. And they're just staring at me. They were like this.
SPEAKER_03I have a question. Oh, like a triangle?
SPEAKER_06They were in a triangle and they look like us, they look like us, which is crazy. I'm gonna pull up.
SPEAKER_03If you were to cast us as dogs, what kind of dogs would we all be? These were those dogs.
SPEAKER_07Look at that! Look at that! You can't tell me that that is not the three of us.
SPEAKER_03Sarah is showing us a photo of three. Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_06What's the mutts? They're mutts. They're mutts now, huge ears. This is let me see what time it is. Time stamped at 8 12 a.m.
SPEAKER_11I need to put a triangle in the middle of that.
SPEAKER_06So just okay, but I do have a very strong passion for animals. I love dogs so much. I'm the kind of person that if I'm driving with my husband and I see a dog I've never pet, like a breed I've never pet, I'm like, pull over, let me get out. I'm gonna go to that dog. I'm gonna say hello. I have left many dog encounters leaving my lipstick on their face. Oh. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_07So that dog could have been groomed for a show, Sarah. So what? Isn't it all about the grooming? It is all about the grooming. The grooming is amazing.
SPEAKER_06Is it just about the grooming? No. I would cast Ben as a boxer. Okay. Because they're smart, but they're also goofy. They can be very funny. So they're very smart and they have like athletic.
SPEAKER_03And they have weird bite overly.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and but they're but they're and they're lovable and silly and sleepy.
SPEAKER_03I hate it. Sleepy? I am sleepy.
SPEAKER_06I I'm always sleepy.
SPEAKER_03Are you still stink dog? What about Paul?
SPEAKER_11You're a stinkbag dog.
SPEAKER_05Okay, Paul. How tall are you, Paul? Don't know you as well as Ben.
SPEAKER_11But how tall are you?
SPEAKER_06How tall are you?
SPEAKER_11About 5'10, but actually, like weirdly.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I'm feeling between a healer and a corgi. Because you're too tall, so I kind of feel like more healer. Like that's a blueie. I don't know if you've I'm I have a toddler, so I've very smart, but then they can also be very yappy.
SPEAKER_11Hate it. Hate it.
SPEAKER_06You have you have a beautiful mustache, they have beautiful hair. Okay.
SPEAKER_11I have beautiful hair too. I just I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_06It's under a hat, but I also think dogs look great in hats. Do I have a Dodger's hat for my dog? Yes.
SPEAKER_11I have a question about Bluey.
SPEAKER_06Go.
SPEAKER_11I no, I have a statement about Bluey. Okay. I have thoughts about Bluey.
SPEAKER_06You can probably hear my daughter.
SPEAKER_11This is a blueie.
SPEAKER_06Hold on. Pause.
SPEAKER_03This is a bluey. This is a blueie.
SPEAKER_06Goldie, will you say hello? Sorry. I'm sorry. I hope you can hear this. This is my daughter, Goldie. Hi Goldie. Goldie Light Goldie on.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Love it.
SPEAKER_06Goldie, can you say hi?
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_07Hi, baby. She's doing work, baby. Come on.
SPEAKER_05Doing work. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_11It's volunteering.
SPEAKER_03I'm glad we got it. We're talking about Bluey though, so.
SPEAKER_11In no way do I guarantee compensation. This is volunteerism. Washington State Conference Federal.
SPEAKER_06She will. She's going. She's going. And we're out. Here. She's a doll. But her bedtime was 30 minutes ago. And we're here. Okay. Continue. You have a question about Bluey.
SPEAKER_11No, it was really just more of a statement. I just have I have mixed feelings about Bluey. I've seen a little bit of Bluey. And I just think Bluey. Sometimes Bluey, like, dude, I don't know. All right.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna what is your mixed feeling?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna I'm gonna cut this off because uh Paul, what have you been doing?
SPEAKER_11Uh this is what I mostly want to say about Bluey. Ah, Jesus. I like that Bluey asks the difficult questions.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Okay, what have you been doing?
unknownI like that.
SPEAKER_11I did 1448 with Ben.
SPEAKER_03That's true.
SPEAKER_11And I had a blast.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Did you have to be Bluey? Was that one of the things that was?
SPEAKER_03I would have had mixed feelings. Paul was on stage. No, he wasn't on the stage. One of the plays, they were like, you're bluey.
SPEAKER_11No, I don't. I don't know. There were challenges that I had never been presented with, that I had not been presented with in a long time. I hadn't been on stage in a very long, very, very long time. And it was just a really cool experience. Everybody was positive and energetic and delivered messages and communicated exceptionally well. Was a really good environment. There's good culture.
SPEAKER_06Beautiful. That is beautiful. But I've done it twice.
SPEAKER_11I was just gonna ask, what what have you got?
SPEAKER_06Acting or acting and both, and both weekends. I had one night where it was they were serious, but like not in a fun way where they were just it was truly one was with Adria, like just crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_03Like really dramatic, boring, really dramatic, boring. Like it's hard to bring that stuff to 44 yeah.
SPEAKER_06I you know, we don't discourage it, but no, and it's beautiful, and it's beautiful, but that contrast with the other night on both nights were like the funniest one of the night. Like, so I had to, I got both ends of it. Did you do it at I did? Okay, and Ben is killing it. Like, come on, the city needs that.
SPEAKER_03The city needs that people, yeah, people we responded well. We had good artists this this year, and it was fun. Good time.
SPEAKER_11I would like to make a statement. Please I think Blueie is great. I was doing a little bit, and I don't want anybody to think that I don't have positive feelings about Blueie. That's great. I endorse Blueie.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna say, as a parent, Blueie is one of the few like children's shows that is engaging and you're able to watch. I mean I go back to the old texts, like we watched the old Charlotte's Webb, Land Before Time. Like I'm bringing her those. But if I'm watching something new because children want to watch the news stuff, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_03Has she seen Puffin Rock? What the shit? No. So Puffin Rock, I learned from the Eagans. It's the Okay, great. It's great. It's like a little uh uh Scottish island with puffins and it's on Netflix.
SPEAKER_06Uh yes, please. Done.
SPEAKER_03I think it would be a big hit in your house.
SPEAKER_06Then what are you up to?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I'm still on that. Um, I mean, I've been doing I've been doing homework. I'm doing lots of homework now, and so that's new new and fun. Fun and new. New challenge.
SPEAKER_05May I ask homework for what?
SPEAKER_03I'm in grad school. So I'm just Yes, you are. I'm yeah, so I'm just it's funny to like remember because you know, it's been so long since I've been in school.
SPEAKER_06And to And I'm older than you, so yeah, it's been a just to remember what it feels like to carve out time to do homework.
SPEAKER_03When you're like, oh, I just want to come home and like relax and watch a movie or play a video game. You're like, no, you get to come home, eat some food, and read and then write something.
What Are You Watching?
SPEAKER_11True or false, you did this to prove to your dad that you're not a fool. You got your lunch packed up, my boots tied tight. I hope I don't get in a fight. Is that possible? Is it in like an online bullying thing?
SPEAKER_03I just have to make sure I have my snack pack.
SPEAKER_09Oh, I love a snack pack. I thought I was your snack pack.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Sarah, what have you been watching? Damn.
unknownWhat am I watching? What are you watching? What are you watching?
SPEAKER_04What are we watching?
unknownWhat are we watching?
SPEAKER_06What have I been watching? Well, I did just say those horrible children's shows. Outside of that. Um, I watched The Beast in Me.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Tell me.
SPEAKER_06Recently. Claire Danes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Um, Matthew, something really great. Matthew, yes, thank you. Incredible. And it was so wonderful to see, you know, as a 40-year-old woman myself, to see women aging on screen and emoting in in such a beautiful way. And her in that role just kind of, you know, when you watch someone do something and they're really good at it and it gives you new energy. That's kind of when I watched that. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, people do this, and they're not just getting facelifts and being the most beautiful person in the world. So it was really lovely to see. And I know I've talked about this before, and I'm gonna put maybe put some of your listeners off, but I'm a Bravo girly. I'm a and not a dating reality show. I like my women 60 plus, and I like them fighting, and I like them going on fancy vacations, and I like the escapism of that. Oh, and the traitors. You like the traitors. Are you traitor?
SPEAKER_03I'm with you. I want to watch the traitors, but I've been trying to get Jess to watch it with me, and she's not into it, so I might just start them on my own.
SPEAKER_06Okay, have you you uh you and Jess have you're game players? Haven't you played Mafia?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. We played It's Mafia! I know that's what I I know. I want to pitch it.
SPEAKER_06Alan Cumming?
SPEAKER_03I know, I love him to a decision American.
SPEAKER_06Let me pitch this to Jess. Let me piss the pitch this to Jess. Every day in the Traders, they start out by having the most elaborate breakfast, right? Okay, and everyone comes in and they are shocked when the person has been killed at night. I would like to have an elaborate breakfast at my house, and each person shows up not knowing if they've been killed. We're not actually gonna play, but when people walk in, there's gonna be this beautiful breakfast, and then we all like make a big exclamation of like how we feel about that person. So you just come over and then we'll watch an episode of the traitors. So you'll eat breakfast at my house.
SPEAKER_11So I still get breakfast. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we'll get smoked salmon. You wear the craziest outfit you've ever seen. You wear like weird culottes and a funny hat with a ball on the top of it, and then we just and then the last person who comes, we have a frame photo of them, and we take it and we smash it. And then we watch an episode.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_06And Alan Cumming smashes it on the ground and it breaks in the most insane way. It's just high camp.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then fun gameplay. Is he American or is he British?
SPEAKER_06Isn't he Scottish? Or Scottish, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I believe, but don't ever say they're don't call him. I believe he's a Scott.
SPEAKER_01Scottish because he goes murder. That's why he says murder.
SPEAKER_11That was a horrible Scott Vanderhoof, Scott Grace Scott, what's his name in in Beston show? Scott and Stefan. Oh don't call him don't call him Scott or Queen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you can just call him, you can just call me Mary.
SPEAKER_11Oh my god. I want to second what Sarah is saying about the traitors. The beat owl special K got me hooked on the traitors. And the thing that also hooked me that it seems like other people have come around to Ron Funches, Alan Cummings, some other people. I was like, I think this dude, Rob, knows how to play this game. He absolutely does. He's really good at this. He's really good. It seems like people are also of the like this. Is what intrigued me is how good that this person is at playing this game.
SPEAKER_06And he's a Love Island person, so he's like a dating game person and not a game player, like your survivor or big brother. But he's coming in just chill. He's really wearing overalls with no shirt underneath. But don't you like him?
SPEAKER_03Are you don't you like him? Are you sure he's not just there for the zipline? Isn't he cool?
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, shut up. Like he's just there for the zipline. That's my favorite thing.
SPEAKER_11I was supposed to wait 30 minutes after lunch, but I always hit the zip line, you know. Um like that. Chill about it.
SPEAKER_03Is that so that's what you've been watching?
SPEAKER_11That and I would like to say I've been watching Shrinking.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_05Love Shrinking.
SPEAKER_11I've really enjoyed it. Somebody recently said to me about shrinking before I started it. It's like Harrison Ford, but like he can act. Who knew Harrison Ford can act? And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. I I I felt that too. Where I'm like, have you not seen Witness or Presumed Innocent or The Fugitive? Or like I feel the same. Any film ever, Air Force One. Yeah, I mean, even like Lean Indy. I'll I'll even say like Han Solo. All of them. Yeah. The the Death Mattered. Like I heard that that character died. Spoilers, Han Solo's second death.
SPEAKER_01I'm sorry. If you haven't seen it yet, yeah. Well, turn it off.
SPEAKER_11Get on it. I think he's really good in it. It like Jason Siegel. I like the cast in general. And uh it's a fun show. It's a little like you know, melodramatic, a little sappy. You get flies with honey though.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there's some heartwarming stuff. The the woman that is the stay-at-home mom is like my dream. I want to live in like a Pasadena home and I want to tumble rocks and like get in other people's business.
SPEAKER_03Like, that's all I want to do, is just like uh uh speaking of getting in other people's business, I started the Burbs. Oh, please, the series on uh Peacock. I went in pretty first off, listened to our Burbs episode from OG episode, right? With Brian Leahy. Um, I went in with a little like trepidation, like that's seen what this is. And I actually I'm a fan of how they adapted the movie into the series and how they've adapted it for contemporary times. And I I think Kiki Palmer is incredible. A dream. And I would watch her in anything.
SPEAKER_11Have you seen one of them days? Yes, really funny movie.
SPEAKER_03And of course, uh, of course, uh the uh nope. I thought she was handle in nope. I watched the first episode and I liked it. I think I'm gonna keep watching it. I you know, I again I went in sort of like other kids in sports. But like talk about getting into people's businesses and like looking at what they're doing. That's what that's what that show that's my life goal.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and also that show does what I love is assembling a crew. Oh, yeah, ragtag people, even though like this is you know, this neighborhood, it's just four or five people you would not expect to work together, working together, and that's one of my favorite tropes.
SPEAKER_03And it has uh what's his name from what we do in the shadows?
SPEAKER_11Yes, uh say Matt Berry. No, um the movie or the two? I don't have names in my brain.
SPEAKER_03Uh it's it's the energy vampire.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, oh man, Robinson something. Yeah, Nate Robinson, mate. No, I don't know. He's a funny guy though.
SPEAKER_03He's great. Um and I'm excited to see where it goes. Uh I mean, I know exactly where it's gonna go because I've seen the movie, but yeah.
SPEAKER_11Does it expand paranoia about other things?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I've only watched the first episode, and the first episode is pretty central on that house. But but I guess into a degree, it does like it does sort of frame her as a black woman living in a primarily like white suburbs, and there are the cops aren't to be trusted.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_03I think that is like an added element where you're like, now it makes sense to why you don't call the cops if you start to be crazy shit around. Well, anyway, we gotta move on, don't we?
"Best In Show" Facts
SPEAKER_11Love it. We did it. We did it. We we have an abridged version of this, but Ben, if you could tell us some of the facts.
SPEAKER_01Archaeology is the search for facts. Hey, if you want me to box and market guaranteed, I will.
SPEAKER_03Uh, we watched Best in Show from the year 2000.
SPEAKER_042000.
SPEAKER_03It is Castle Rock Entertainment, Warner Brosk, or uh soon to be Paramount or Netflix or what'd you say, Chipotle? I don't know, whoever takes over. Uh PG13. It is a tight, a taut one hour and 30 minutes. On the button. Budget is 10 million estimated adjusted. That is 18 million. Opening weekend, September 29th, 2000. 413,000 had a limited release.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, the first couple weeks. That makes sense around. Sure.
SPEAKER_03Final Gross North America, 18.7 million adjusted, that is 34. Not bad. Not a bad, not a bad weekend.
SPEAKER_11I would have thought this was closer to like a 25-ish million dollar movie, considering I would have, I would agree.
SPEAKER_03And the Jennifer Coolidge wardrobe budget, or just the rental of that like big old stadium.
SPEAKER_11Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They they had to have paid like for that venue for at least a week or two to do it. But Jennifer Coolidge, by the way, has in her rider, she gets to keep what she wears.
SPEAKER_00Oh, love it.
SPEAKER_11There's a reason why her wardrobe is fucking awesome.
SPEAKER_03Wait, do you think that's the case in everything she shoots?
SPEAKER_11I'm I think it's in her rider. Because I think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_03Oh, me too. I love that very much.
SPEAKER_11In uh White Lotus, so she wears awesome shit in almost everything.
SPEAKER_03Final Gross Worldwide 20.8 adjusted, that's 38. Uh, other releases this weekend. Remember the Titans?
SPEAKER_11Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I do. Okay, great.
SPEAKER_11Sunshine and Lollipops. Sunshine, yeah. Sunshine and lollipops, and yeah. They all sing Sarah saw it.
SPEAKER_03I did.
SPEAKER_11Sarah gets it.
SPEAKER_03Sarah's almost famous and the contender. Weekend top five. Uh, meet the parents, remember the titans, almost famous, the watcher, and bring it on.
SPEAKER_06Bring it on. So good. I'm sexy. I'm cute. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Please, no, please.
SPEAKER_06I'm popular to boot. I'm bitching. Great hair. The boys all love to stare. Okay, continue.
SPEAKER_11That's gonna be at the Eagle Theater at Videot pretty soon. And that's a fun fucking movie, and I've never seen it in a theater. I've been considering it.
SPEAKER_06It's so good. I went to see that movie in the theater with my cheer squad.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there you go. It was such a popular movie amongst our age groups at that time. It's so cool. Was it the Pitch Perfect of the Era? Hmm.
SPEAKER_06I could see the parallels for sure. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03I have never seen Pitch Perfect.
SPEAKER_11I've seen the first one. I've seen the first one. It's very fun.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure it is. I'm not saying I would totally watch it. It's it's up my alley. Uh, other films from 2000, Gladiator, Castaway, American Psycho, Miss Congeniality, Old Brother Were Out Thou, and Scary Movie. Oh. Everybody knows that.
SPEAKER_11Everybody knows these. Solid, solid 2000. Yeah, oh, I guess. Yeah, because you're talking the five movies everybody knows about.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_11Who cares? Okay. Big deal. You know what else came out in 2000? Abraxis, Guardian of the Universe.
SPEAKER_03Also sour because he didn't get he didn't actually finish the fact sheet. And so well, he did finish it, he just forgot it. You know what else? He was calling stone.
SPEAKER_11Demolitions Jurassic Park rezoned.
SPEAKER_0693. Get out of here. Okay, next.
SPEAKER_03Thank you, Sarah. You're welcome. Are you available to co-host a podcast with me? Absolutely. Great. You're on a veil.
SPEAKER_06You're gonna drop me.
SPEAKER_03Like no one else does. I think Paul's gonna keep it, but cool things.
SPEAKER_06Paul is the name.
SPEAKER_03Keep it available if you could.
SPEAKER_06Great. I will.
SPEAKER_03Letterbox average is 3.9. Follow me on Letterboxd at runbmc.
SPEAKER_11You could follow me on Letterboxd. I'm at Paul ActsBadly. Sarah, have we organized?
SPEAKER_03No, I haven't. Can they follow you anywhere? Can they find you anywhere?
SPEAKER_06You can follow me on Instagram at at Scottsy S-C-O-A-T-E-S-Y. I deleted my TikTok and I'm never on Facebook, baby. And sometimes I'm on threads, which is also at Scottsie. Yeah, I'm just on Instagram. I do love letterboxed. My husband does great letterboxed movie groupings.
SPEAKER_11Lists. Oh, what do you call that?
SPEAKER_06Lists. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_11I'm always making lists. That's probably why Steven Spielberg casts me as Oscar Schindler. It's probably why.
SPEAKER_06Oh wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. We like to make lists that are weird. Like just an odd idea of what like thanks for redirecting that.
SPEAKER_03Um I did.
SPEAKER_06I was like, no, no, no.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03The wheels pointing towards Sarah.
SPEAKER_00There we go.
SPEAKER_03Uh Rotten Tomatoes, 93%, 88% audience. Ebert and Roper, two thumbs up. Metacritic 78 70 point 7.7 user major award wins and nominations. It's a National Society of Films critic, film critics, best supporting actor for Fred Willard. Hell yeah. Wow. Yeah. Hell yeah. Incredible and deserved. Yeah. AFI top 10 films of the year nominee and multiple critic awards for ensemble. Paul, would you like to talk about people?
SPEAKER_11I feel that it's necessary that I was quoting a thing from Liam Neeson and Ricky Gervais about that. Standers list thing. Was it just that bad? Okay, good. As long as it wasn't offensive. Director of this film was Christopher Guest, waiting for the Cuffman. A mighty wind for your consideration. Writers were Christopher Guest and Eugene Levy. Yeah. Boy, have I like fallen in love with Eugene Levy so many times in life.
SPEAKER_03I do want to say that I I know I I didn't mention this in What Are You Been Watching, but I have been slowly re-watching Shits Creek.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Since we lost um, we'll talk about her. But our queen. It's just such a it's just such a gem of a of a series. Every episode, like you can just put it on and just it's just like drinking a warm glass of tea.
SPEAKER_06Well, and where the world is now. Yeah, where the world is now, it's like a great place to visit, like a beautiful place to step into and say, like, okay, people are good. People can be good.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06So huge fans.
SPEAKER_03It's just so fascinating to watch that show and like just to think of all the things like how much Eugene Levy and Katherine O'Hara had worked together, like the how close they must have been. And then like same with like his kids, yeah. Levy's kids, and like anyway. Um it's really special. I yeah, it's a special series.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, these these people did this beautiful thing at a specific special time, having a specific life experience that brought like a level of warmth and authenticity to a thing that at times was so absurd, but it was just so special and funny and great.
SPEAKER_03Make me cry. Yeah, it made me cry.
SPEAKER_11The music in this film was by Theodore Shapiro, and I guess Michael McKean did some of the songs.
SPEAKER_03I guess it must have been that original song he sings, maybe.
SPEAKER_11And maybe the uh what's the song I sent you all the oh the song that loves uh terrible?
SPEAKER_01So funny. Harmonies.
SPEAKER_11Roberto Schaefer was the cinematographer of this film, Finding Neverland and Quantum of Solace. Obvious choice. Yeah. The Mark Forster Bond with that two Mark Forster movies. Producer Karen Murphy and Christopher Guest, wouldn't you guess it? Oh Eugene Levy was Jerry Fleck, American Pine waiting for Guffman. Catherine O'Hara was Cookie Fleck, may she rest in peace. Home Alone, After Hours, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. That's just two movies. It's showtime. Come for your daughter, Chuck. Parker Posey. I'm obsessed with her. I love Parker Posey. Oh man. What does she say? You're obsessed with her, and you're obsessed with her daughter in Scream 3. As well as Party Girl, Michael Hitchcock, Hamilton Swan, Waiting for Guffman. John Michael Higgins was Scott Donlin, Pitch Perfect, and Licorice Pizza, Michael McKean, Stefan Vanderhoof. This is Spinal Tap. And don't forget, listen to our Planes, Trains, and Automobiles episode. Jane Lynch was Christy Cummings, which is the most porn star name.
SPEAKER_03It's so bad. And there her and cool, like the that uh, it's so great. That pairing is pretty wonderful.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Uh, she was in the fugitive and role models. Jennifer Coolidge in the writer, everything she wears. Sherry Ann Cabot. Good name. Legally blonde, American Pie 2. Christopher Guest, Harlan Harlan Pie. Harlan Peppa. Harlan Peppers.
SPEAKER_09Who sounds a little like the old guy from Family Guy.
FUN Facts
SPEAKER_11Legally blonde in American Pie 2. Christopher Guest. I just said that. Princess Brad, if you good, man. Fred Willard, may he rest in peace. Buck Laughlin, Anchorman, and A Mighty Wind. Sarah, you may have some facts that are a little more fun.
SPEAKER_09Fun facts, fun facts, everybody. It's fun fact time.
SPEAKER_06So, first off, this entire film was improvised from a 16-page outline. No traditional script. Actors created their own backstories.
SPEAKER_03I'm curious if that's how like Waiting for Guffman also worked.
SPEAKER_06I mean, when you trust your group, I guarantee you it's the it's kind of like you talking about 1448. Like you went into an experience with a group of people that you trusted and had this brilliant time. And I watching this, it's one of these kind of movies that makes you revived in your creative spirit. I was watching it and I was like, damn it, this is a good time. They're having a good time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's interesting because so many American comedies post this also use the improv model in a lot of ways. You we mentioned Anchorman, they're like famously a lot of those, like they'll they'll have a concept of a scene, right? And they'll have some structure to it, and then they improvise and they use what's while I love a lot of American comedies, none of them truly like always feel as natural as these ones do. These feel true, like it feels like almost documentary.
SPEAKER_06In true sense of the like the mockumentary term. This feels like you're dropped into these regular people's lives. I feel like those ones you're talking about are a little more heightened and a little more camp, a little more, yeah, goofy, unrealistic. Like even down to the costume and hair and makeup choices. I was watching this today and I was like, no one looks like season five Office, where they get beautiful. And I'm like, I don't want that. I want to see the the underbelly, I want to see things out of place. Yes, yeah, like that fish shop where they were, you know, on the map, like choosing where just it's just weird and gross and normal, and it seems like a place that I could walk into any day of the week. So loved.
SPEAKER_11There's a really special thing about like this or Drop Dead Gorgeous or like Kirby Enthusiasm that are were able to that are able to like capture that.
SPEAKER_03Listen to our Drop Dead Gorgeous episode from with Adrian Marcelli.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, no shit.
SPEAKER_03Adria brought that one.
SPEAKER_06She's a dream. She's and that movie. Can you stream that now? Or did you have to buy the DVD? For a while, you have to buy the DVD.
SPEAKER_11It was on Tubi not long after we can so it's been available on streaming off and on, anyway.
SPEAKER_03I think at that time, and we can cut this. I think at that time I had to find the someone had put on like Reddit or something the like.
SPEAKER_11So he basically bought it for two dollars, which I did as well, which is also how I watched this movie.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, exactly. I think this one was on Hulu, that's where I watched it, but yeah, I did too.
SPEAKER_11I was like, I need to own this though, just in case.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_11Have you ever seen Near Dark Anytime?
SPEAKER_06This isn't off a tangent, but have you ever seen Near Dark?
SPEAKER_11I love that vampire movie.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I had to buy it with Korean subtitles. Like you could only buy like the DVD. I got it from Korea. It has Korean subtitles, but you can watch it. So if you ever need to borrow it, you can't buy it anywhere.
SPEAKER_07If you want to borrow that movie's so near dark, it's so good. Have you seen it? Bill Paxton, I've never seen it.
SPEAKER_06Bill Paxton, oh Bill Paxton is a vampire.
SPEAKER_11Jeanette Goldstein. Yeah, okay. Great cats, some aliens. I think you'd love it.
SPEAKER_06It's all the aliens.
SPEAKER_11And maybe James Cameron co-produced or something. Because it was like I think it's like a Big Low Cameron joint, at least a Catherine Biglow for sure.
SPEAKER_03Okay. You sold me. Good. Maybe I'll get it, Sarah. Maybe I'll rent it from the video store.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I wish. This film was shot in just 24 days.
SPEAKER_03Crazy.
SPEAKER_06That seems crazy, especially with the scenes in the actual Mayflower Kennel Club. Crowd scenes seems impossible in today's standards, but I'm pretty impressed. Many of the cast members develop full binders of character histories that never appear on screen.
SPEAKER_03And I bet the ones that do, the gems that come out, like I have two left feet. Uh no, I uh I really do. I have uh I was born with like the way the way he leaned in the city. It's absurd.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, something. Yeah, it's truly absurd. Yeah, of course. Right, clearly. And like it, I think, Ben, you hit the the nail on the head there, or the you hit it with the heel of your shoe, where it's something like that where he like vamps or whatever, where he's like, No, I really do have that. And then props was like, Oh shit, okay, like we gotta figure that out. Like when we shoot that in a week.
SPEAKER_06It's something that's so special about Catherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy is how they listen to each other. Like, even the one speaking, it's almost more interesting to watch the person listening. Yeah, just because you can hear what she's thinking, you can see, like, especially Katherine O'Hara, you can see her remembering these like stories that Eugene is telling, but it's just she's perfect, it's perfect.
SPEAKER_03What a what a genius.
SPEAKER_11Which mentally looks back or with like a word looks back on her previous life of just partying having a good time and a lot of lucky gentlemen. It's like so funny. It is she speaks volumes, worlds, like, and the men that run into her that just like cannot let her go.
SPEAKER_06No, it's incredible. She is a wizard, she is a warlock in the bedroom, and I am here for it, and you can tell. So, Fred Willard's commentary was so improvised that producers reportedly had to cut around non-stop riffing. He was specifically specifically directed not to learn anything about dogs, and the other announcer um opposite did a crazy amount of research, and I think you can tell, like, which is so it's so insane, it's so beautiful. But I also think it's like for me not knowing any, like, I love dogs, but I don't know anything about dog shows. It was almost like the voice of the audience with him being like, So, does this dog, you know, can they wear a little hat? Can they have a pipe and can they like smoke?
SPEAKER_12It was just make it look like Sherlock Holmes, you know, wouldn't that be great if you had a little corn cob pipe, you know?
SPEAKER_11And he constantly is comparing it to baseball or football, or like he's always trying to compare it to sports competition, it's so good.
SPEAKER_06Well, as a non like I love going to sporting events, I don't follow sports, I'm not like a Ben in the like in you guys where you're like true, you're bleeding the Seahawks. I do love them because I grew up there, but I don't know anything about it. No, it just says sports royalty, but I got a matching one with my daughter. We got matching ones from old leaders.
SPEAKER_11But it would lead me to believe that you are a sports expert.
SPEAKER_06Thank you. Thank you. I am sold. Absolutely not, but I love seeing people. It's just like anything when someone tries to give you a something that you don't know anything about. Like, I would know nothing about sports if you were to like give me sports facts.
SPEAKER_11I would be like, yeah, yes, great.
SPEAKER_06Yes, not like to have me try and like commentate on like football games of like who's going and I'm always like I'm always like, well, the blue the blue costumes are you know, just because that's the world I come from.
SPEAKER_03We're intermission now.
SPEAKER_06Everyone's yes, everybody's yeah, absolutely. Oh, I love this. Real dog show judges appear in the film. I feel like you can tell that.
SPEAKER_03Now, what is she doing now? What is she looking for? Yes, always like usually we just type a bunch of cats. Just the way Fred Willard delivers his lines is funny.
SPEAKER_11Like do they when they do they have different accents?
SPEAKER_03Do the borders mean is the what did you say that he says the dog do you think the dogs know how big of a deal is that this the championships on the line?
SPEAKER_11I think they all know that they're very special dogs. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Well, what a great like that's the greatest pairing when you have like a complete weirdo and then the straight man, and that just I could watch hours of that. This is interesting as well. The dogs were actual show dogs and several one real life competitions.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that makes sense in terms of like having to work with animals and need to do them, need to do specific things.
SPEAKER_11I I think we may make a short phone call at some point to a type of animal, a hawk, and double check some things about championship animals.
SPEAKER_03We have a cameo.
SPEAKER_00Oh my love of my life! I can't wait.
SPEAKER_06This is me hugging you. Oh my god, you're a star, you're beautiful. She is, she's it, she's cover girl.
SPEAKER_03Hi, and she's like that, she's gone.
SPEAKER_06It's just that was a boost of serotonin, like nothing else. That was like a ray of sunshine hitting me in my body, like the movie Sunshine, and then I just go, Oh, and then the sun hits me.
SPEAKER_11I need to see that again. Apparently, it's so good.
SPEAKER_06Very dark.
SPEAKER_03I own it on DVD, but it doesn't look great. I would love to own a higher quality.
SPEAKER_06It's one of my falling asleep movies.
SPEAKER_03That's terrifying.
SPEAKER_06I know. I'll put it on and I'll just be like, it has horrifying moments.
SPEAKER_03Do you what happens if you wake up during like the you know, I have a traumatic childhood, so nothing.
SPEAKER_06I'm good. I love a little bit of that. I do have a question for you guys. Who would you say was the best dog actor in this film? I have my response. Should we wait?
SPEAKER_03I think we should wait till after our break.
SPEAKER_11Give me a circle and come back around and I'll think about it. Okay.
SPEAKER_06And it's like you're a dog running their dog to show the judge.
SPEAKER_00One, two, two. God, I love that.
SPEAKER_06It's terrifying.
SPEAKER_09Yes. Holland Pep.
SPEAKER_06And and our last fun fact is Christopher Guest often shoots hours of footage and finds the story in the edit.
SPEAKER_03That's cool. That's just like this podcast. I mean, that makes a lot of sense because yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Um, it really does.
SPEAKER_06Well, and just even the the the two left feet, I'm sure that was a throwaway line. And then it goes into the two commentators being like, wait, does he have two left feet? And the one guy goes, This is the only time I'll ever agree with you. Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_11That was really funny when he adds that add-on. That's so good. Maybe the one and only time that ever happens.
SPEAKER_03Uh I love it. Wow. So we need the log line. Would you like to read the log line of this movie for us, Sarah?
SPEAKER_06I would love to.
SPEAKER_03Do I have to read it in any certain way, or is it just uh you can you can read it as written or you can make up your own?
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna read it as written because it's probably the best. It's a group of eccentric dog owners prepare for and compete in the prestigious Mayflower Kennel Club dog show.
SPEAKER_11Lovely.
SPEAKER_06I mean, it's perfect.
SPEAKER_11This episode is brought to you by the Nina Pinta and Santa Marina dog show. We're so excited. Those were the other ships.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got it. I got where you're going.
SPEAKER_11One on Plymouth Rock and then one of those was Columbus, I think. Maybe, yeah. One somewhere in Germany.
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SPEAKER_03And they were like well, they landed here and they were like, yo, is this India? And they were like, no. Nope. And we're like, nah, I think I think it is.
SPEAKER_11When he's going over that geography thing, too, like the whole thing where he's like, the Mayflower landed here, right? He's like, nope. Nope, nope. Sorry, nope. Okay, uh, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Sarah Coats, so excited.
SPEAKER_03Are you gonna stick around? You promise?
SPEAKER_11Take a lap. You know, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_11Back to the program.
SPEAKER_06And it's because I grew up in the 90s. Like you gave me something queen. I saw Tostitos chips with the queso in the jar that you open, cold or hot. You don't even need to heat it up. Like it is or Fritos dipped in that.
SPEAKER_03Oh it's nasty. I I love a Frito. I love a uh drumstick, like an ice cream drumstick. Oh the chocolate in the bottom of the cone.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Is it kind of trashy that I love the uncrustable? I don't know the last day that I didn't have an uncrustable. By the way, I'm also having a mini funeral, I guess. For I was like, Wendy's is closing 600 stores.
SPEAKER_07Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I was so I was like, I don't know the last time I went. What are they gonna do with all the frosty machines?
SPEAKER_11I I got it.
SPEAKER_07Okay, great. We'll talk. Your apartment is just frosty machines lined up. You and I got it.
SPEAKER_03I do want to mention since we talked about the Seahawks, coach Mike McDonald just hired an offensive coordinator with last name Fury. Are they making McFury's? Is that a thing?
SPEAKER_11What about Nick Fury's?
SPEAKER_06My husband works in advertising. I think you should work in advertising because that needs to be your shirt. That needs to be their next campaign.
SPEAKER_03Like now I want a McFury. And also, what's your go-to Wendy's order?
SPEAKER_11You guys should really talk off mic about this, though. Uh I'm gonna be honest, I'm a biggie bag kind of person. What's a biggie bag? It's you get the nuggets, you get the fries, you get the sandwich, you get the drink, you get the attitude, you get the attitude, you get the fuck ups on the order, but there's everything that you want open late so you can even so you can eat great even late.
SPEAKER_03What even is late, Ben?
SPEAKER_06And we've discussed the greatest place in the world, which is Taco Time.
SPEAKER_11Oh, yes, I'm a big, big Taco Time fan. Can I say Mexi Nuggets?
SPEAKER_06How dare you? And then with the with the ranch sour cream dipping sauce, like give me a right.
SPEAKER_03It is yes, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_06And let me tell you that the first commercial I ever did was for Taco Time. Oh and I'm still Taco Time, baby. I did, and I'm still chasing the dragon of this commercial. This commercial was a five-day shoot around Seattle. We go to West Seattle, like we go to the beach, we went to a music store. I fake played the guitar. Like it was we went rock climbing. It was like four best friends in fedoras going around Seattle to a song. We had a 60-second cut, they had a 30-second cut, they had a 15-second cut. Did I make out with one of the guys in it? Yes, not on the commercial, but afterward. Like my life just exploded after this.
SPEAKER_03And I bet you had a like a Sprite or a Dr. Pepper with that little ice. Oh, the ice.
SPEAKER_06The crushed ice. But let me tell you, when we were on the beach, I did take a sip that made it into the final cut, but what I was drinking was sand. Because they had put sand in the cup so they wouldn't blow away. And I took a sip.
SPEAKER_03You're such a good actor.
SPEAKER_06Thank you. Thank you. I once ate ice cream on stage, but it was soap.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's how you wash your mouth out. When we did when I did uh dog sees God, uh, we had to eat uh tater tots, yeah. Um, and they were always so cold. Oh I have to say, I love tater tot cold tater tots, real gross, yeah, real gross, not a fun time.
SPEAKER_06No, that's just awful. It's just awful.
SPEAKER_03But we are back. Hi, we've we're back. We've all gotten off of our own colonized earth ships.
SPEAKER_11You're gonna hear a lot of that, listener.
SPEAKER_03You need to know about taco time and junk food and Wendy's and uh all of the things, Tostitos.
SPEAKER_06God, I love junk food. I don't care. I'll I'll you can never make me hate it. I love eating healthy, but I don't care. There are certain things that just okay.
SPEAKER_11I want Cheetos right now. I need to eat more fiber.
SPEAKER_06Can I say something TMI?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, of course. Is there is this podcast I'm totally okay with it? Just let me know if I'll need to edit it. Tell me now, let the listener know. Is there an edit?
SPEAKER_06No, I'm gonna tell it straight out. Let it redacted.
SPEAKER_11Let it run redacted.
SPEAKER_06Let it run redacted. The seraphiles, here we go. When I first moved to LA in 2015, I got a group on for two. Oh my god, what are they called? Where they stick the tube up your butt. Colonoscopy. Not a colonoscopy. Um you got a group on for a colonoscopy. It wasn't a colonoscopy. What is it called?
SPEAKER_03What is it called? What are they doing? They say, no, an enema?
SPEAKER_11An enema?
SPEAKER_03I thought okay.
SPEAKER_11You got a group on for an enema. This is better.
SPEAKER_00Okay, wait. This is this story goes crazy. So I got a group on it, right?
SPEAKER_03It didn't start crazy.
SPEAKER_11I'm ready. I'm strapped in.
SPEAKER_06So it's basically two for one. Like you go in and it's this Russian woman, and you can't, she you can't put the she can't put the tube up your bum. You have to grab the tube, then she grabs your hand and then puts it up there, and then she runs water in and then gets it all out. When I tell you, okay, so I had never had a what is it called? It's not an enema.
SPEAKER_03It's a it's not an enema? It's a hypolonic water balloon.
SPEAKER_06Colonic. It's a hyplonic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Two for one clonics. So I do my first one ever thinking I'm like, I'm gonna be so thin after this. What it did was apparently it can like take like like move like medicine that you've taken, or like it just takes all the poison out of your body. And when I tell you, I felt so horrible afterward that I immediately went and got McDonald's French fries. Felt that because my body needs its toxins. Yeah, you there are levels of fat that I yeah, it took all the toxins out, and my body was like, no, no, no, no, no, we don't run on this, we run on tostitos.
SPEAKER_11I need sodium, I need carbs. Do you want me to resist things and feel good?
SPEAKER_06Right? So I go back for the second one because it was a group on two, same thing happens. Then I get an shame on me. Pull me twice, can't be fooled again. So accomplish like six months later, I get an email that my colonic person died. I get an email, she died. So I never had a colonic again. But that is like to me, no one else that gives them, I don't think. So I I mean, no, then the moral of the story is your colonic assistant died, yeah, yeah. Assistant, because I couldn't, I had to do it. Is eat the junk food. That's the moral of the story. It runs my body, it made me feel better, it made me feel longer.
SPEAKER_03Life is short, your toilet's hungry. Speaking of life is short. This podcast isn't. Uh, I need you to so do you remember this game Cinephile?
SPEAKER_06I do, and then we are going to use my brain, which doesn't work, but thank you for letting me show the world that this uh uh audience.
Cinephile Round
SPEAKER_03This is a uh card game, and it has an actor on it with a movie as well. Sarah's gonna name that movie, that actor, and that movie, and then we each have to name a movie that actor's in uh until one of us screws up. That's gonna be me. Okay so tell me if you can see this because there's sometimes it's really hard to read on here.
SPEAKER_06Oh, this is Jessica Chastain crimson peak. I can't see it. You do.
SPEAKER_03Is it me? Um, I will go with Zero Dark 30. Mama.
SPEAKER_06Uh the wolf one. What is that? Oh my god, give me a second. Give me a second. Are you IMDBing it? No. What's the wolf one where she played a wolf? Is that mother? Is that mama?
SPEAKER_03I think.
SPEAKER_06No, hush. Can I say, can I say Veronica Mars? She was in an episode of Veronica Mars.
SPEAKER_11I think let's just keep it going for a round.
SPEAKER_06No, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me go, let me think. Um give Sarah a shot here. Wait, okay. Tammy Faye. Tammy Faye?
SPEAKER_03Oh, the I said Tammy Faye. She won an Oscar for that, right?
SPEAKER_06Yes, thank you.
SPEAKER_11Or was nominated at least. Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_06So thank you. Let my brain work. Let my brain work.
SPEAKER_11Won a golden globe or something.
SPEAKER_06No, I think he won. He won the Oscar. No, she did. She did.
SPEAKER_03She won because she had to give it right after Will Smith, and it was really awkward. Oh shit. Oh yikes. I remember. Um uh I can't remember her. Okay, I'm gonna go with Oh fuck. I was gonna go with something game, but I can't remember the girl's name. Uh someone's game.
SPEAKER_06I steal Molly's game.
SPEAKER_03Molly's game.
SPEAKER_11Thank you. I tried to steal, so uh is she in it part two?
SPEAKER_06She is. That's one of my favorites. That's what I had. God damn it.
SPEAKER_03The other one I was trying to think of was the the X-Men that she shows up in, but that one's like one of the worst ones. Dark Phoenix? Yeah. Oh. Uh, is that the one? Yeah. Apocalypse. I don't know. No, it's Dark Phoenix. Yeah, you're right. Well, we did not well, but uh No, wait.
SPEAKER_06Is it my turn now?
SPEAKER_03I'm pretty sure one of us lost already.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_11I don't have to. If you can row Shambeau for it, Sarah, you brought us this movie.
First & Current Experiences
SPEAKER_03Why don't you tell us your first time watching this movie and what your rating out of five would have been, and your most recent viewing and rating out of five.
SPEAKER_06I the first time I watched this film was in college because I had seen Waiting for Guffman. And then in my weird, nerdy theater group of people, we just kind of would like watch these constantly. Waiting for Guffman was such a huge like explosion of like this is me, and then this is also so incredible. But I think at the time I would have probably given it. Are we doing out of five?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And you can use any rating system you'd like. You don't use stars.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I would probably at the time would have given it because I liked waiting for Guffman more and a mighty wind more. At the time, I would have given it four out of five busy bees.
SPEAKER_03All right. We have a very similar rating system.
SPEAKER_06Okay, great.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_11The Interessant.
SPEAKER_03Where's the busy bee?
SPEAKER_06Where's the busy bee? No, it's the busy bee.
SPEAKER_11There's some other toys down there. I don't know.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, when he's like this kind of this one looks like a bee.
SPEAKER_07It's a bear in a bee costume.
SPEAKER_06She should have taken the bear in the bee costume, honestly.
SPEAKER_03The one she grabs, she goes, That one that looks less like a bee than anything else I've given you. I thought, I thought the parrot. Yeah, it was striped. Dogs are also colorblind, weak CT dubs.
SPEAKER_11So for the most part, I believe they are. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03For busy bees.
SPEAKER_11And you just watched this again recently.
SPEAKER_06I watched it yesterday and today. I watched it twice. Oh my god, my whole family is screaming. My dog is screaming. Do you hear that? Nope. I think Zoom does something incredible. Okay, so I watched it yesterday and today, and I think that I would now I needed it, so I would give it five out of five. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm a giver. I'm the Paula Abdul of this American Idol panel. Um, I had to. I know who you are. Oh, quite a bit. Um yeah, I I love it. Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, but yeah, I would give it five out of five because I just had such a blast. And Katherine O'Hara is such a star, and mainly because of her of her physical comedy when she hurts her knee and does the little can I tell you I did it all around the house today and it cracked me up. I really recommend you doing her little neat bit. Oh god, it's so good.
SPEAKER_07It's good.
SPEAKER_03She's a good what a loss. What a true loss. I had a similar experience. I watched this movie pretty young. I saw this movie this well, I guess not too young. It came out in 2000. I think I saw it in 2000. My brother and I were upset uh guests of this program, Derek McFadden. We were obsessed with this movie and we would quote it constantly.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, we have a we have now now what now what is now now what kind of dog are we looking at here? What what what what do these dogs look like?
SPEAKER_05This is a purebred French bulldog from the uh black oak French Bulldog scene.
SPEAKER_02Do you think do you think we could put a little beret on him and give him a little cigarette, you know? And a little striped shirt and a little striped shirt, maybe he's uh in the Eiffel Tower, you know?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, kind of have him uh do the Van Dam dance from uh kickboxer. Would he do that if we put little suspenders on him?
SPEAKER_07You think yes, please. Can we do that? Um does he like fries with gravy? He absolutely is that poutine that really not which I think it is. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_11I know that's not we all like French fries.
SPEAKER_03I know that's Canadian. I'm just kidding. I'm just dude, I was testing you. You passed C. So anyway, I watched this movie. I I saw this movie before I saw Waiting for Guffman. Oh wow, and I saw Waiting for Guffman after, and obviously, like being a theater person, Waiting for Guffman, I think I relate to more, and I like I cringe more in that just because the auditions and the improv games and everything that they're so funny. So I would have given this four, I'm gonna give it four nuts peanuts, cashew nut, red pistachio nut, pistachio nut.
SPEAKER_11I almost did that. Question Hazelnut Is a pine nut a nut or a seed?
SPEAKER_03I looked this up actually because I had to know it for nut allergy. You think? No. So it sounds like you know, yeah, it's a nut.
SPEAKER_11Okay. I would have guessed seed, but I uh yeah. I would have too. I didn't look for for love of the game. I didn't look. But Ben already knew he was ahead of the game. I mean, I think it's a nut. It is a game, the game.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, I watched this movie recently, and uh I am at I think it's a work of genius. I mean, all of I think all of these are strokes of genius. I'm at four and a half nuts.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_06We love.
SPEAKER_11I almost went with a nut-based scoring system. Well, I almost went with a Busy B, so I I I I like that we changed them all. I thought of travelers' checks at a point. I thought of uh toys. Adult braces? Oh bah I'll reveal mine. Oh my god. I I have a question. As a person who grew up in a 4-H guide dogs for the blind community, people who would enter cakes and blankets into county fairs for judging and things of this nature, as well as I have a 13-year-old Burmese cat. She is the light of my life. She is my croak madam. She's so sweet.
SPEAKER_01What is her name?
SPEAKER_11Her name is Sandcat. Now, that is an excellent question, Sarah. I'm thinking I'm gonna bring in an expert in some of these things for a moment. Does everyone is that okay with people? I would love. Let's see if this let's see if this works out. And I'll let's see if I'm any good at asking any fucking questions. Sarah, what do you think?
SPEAKER_08Am I any good at asking? You're okay. You're okay. You're fine.
SPEAKER_05You're medium.
SPEAKER_08Medium plus I think you're pretty good. What'd you ask me? I think you're pretty good at asking questions.
SPEAKER_06No, you guys are both great at asking questions.
SPEAKER_08Well, thank you.
SPEAKER_06Are we bringing in your cat? Would that be how fucking cool would that be? I mean, I just brought in my dog.
SPEAKER_03Calling a friend.
SPEAKER_06Call yeah, phone a friend.
SPEAKER_11Now, if there's no answer, I'm not gonna pick it up if if the person calls back. Okay. Like, I'm just gonna let it go.
SPEAKER_03Who is too? It's because cats cats can't answer phones.
SPEAKER_06They can't no opposable. Their nails are so long, their murder mittens won't fuck.
SPEAKER_11They won't allow it. No, I was going to bring in someone who could speak as an as an expert in the world of show cats uh for a moment and go over Sand Cat's actual full like comes from this catery, this line of cats, all this crazy shit. But her name is Sand Sand Cat, and we call her uh Sandy a lot. Love that sounding you do you love it so much, you drink it up, drink up the sand.
SPEAKER_06Terrible, terrible I did, I did, and then you got a little bit of a good idea.
SPEAKER_03I made the best I drink your shaker seriously. I drink it up, Eli. I drink it all up. This podcast is what is this?
SPEAKER_06What are we unhinged? People are gonna be listening to this and being like, are they okay? And we're gonna go, no, we're not okay.
SPEAKER_03I think that is okay. If they're still listening to this show, then no, we're not okay.
SPEAKER_11I did arrange with the cat expert to be like, Can I call you at such and such time about? And they were like, Yeah, absolutely. I'll be available, have my ringer on and everything. And I was like, Great. And as they didn't answer, I was like, This is going super as planned. Very happy. Hey, I saw this when I was young. I how young was I? Hard to say. This was not my first, but my first Christopher Guest was this is Spinal Tap. This was my second. So waiting for Guffin was a little later for me as well.
SPEAKER_03Spinal tap Reiner directed, and Guest just wrote it, wrote and starred. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11And in terms of actual Christopher Guests, I guess this was my first in terms of him uh writing, directing, starring, wearing the hat on a hat on a hat on a hat on a hat. And it's been like a staple for me. It was a gateway to so many other Christopher Guest movies, not just that he directed and so forth, but as we were talking about before, when he worked with the great Rob Reiner and Spinal Tapper, A Few Good Men, or all these great little and all these uh Christopher Guest is just somebody who I just enjoy. Yeah, yeah, generally. Mascots on Netflix. Anyone?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I haven't seen that.
SPEAKER_11Pretty funny movie about like you know, best in show but mascots or whatever. Yes, please. You yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_06When I well, there was a time in my life where I was really like wandering, like, what am I gonna do? I worked at Walt Disney World, I was a stilt walker, and I was like, should I go into the world of mascots? Did look it up. Like, I was like, is this the trajectory in which my career goes? It didn't because I can't do backflips, they're very Very physical.
SPEAKER_11Can you can you dunk?
SPEAKER_06Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_11Can you dunk from a trampoline?
SPEAKER_06No, but I have spirit in here and it exists.
SPEAKER_11You'll learn.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_11No, I'm not. No. No, I'm not doing that. No, no, no, no, no. But I would have given it four out of five dog calendars.
SPEAKER_06Ooh. Those shitsu calendars. Let me tell you what. That gay couple is they're so funny.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're great.
SPEAKER_11When Scott's like, yeah, we should make some fucking money on it. Like, oh yeah, because the Shih Tzu Rescue needs it. No. Like, we're supposed like we're gonna sell these fucking dog calendars. I like how he's just like unabashedly like, this is a business opportunity. Yeah, it's just funny to me. So having re-watched this movie recently, I watched it with uh the B Dao, the biggest Dao I know, and great experience. Really wanted to see it at the Eagle Theater at Video because it's been showing there off and on since the passing of Miss O'Hara as part of the celebration of her work, which it's like I don't want to make this sit down, or it's like I want to go there for some Robert Duvall stuff. I went for some Diane Keynes. Like it's great that revival theaters play these kinds of things. Yeah, I'm sure this movie in the theaters, especially the stuff at the dog show, is probably pretty fucking great. Yeah, it's really well shown.
SPEAKER_06And in a in a cool 90 minutes, like what a great theater experience. Just we're we're boo.
SPEAKER_11It really clips right along. It does, it really does. I'm really excited to have this conversation. This is still something I can wiggle up on. There's no way I can wiggle down, I'm only wiggling up. I don't think there's any way that I can go down from a four. Okay, but I'm still at four dog calendars. The quotability is we've been talking about in this movie, and how much that sways me is insane.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_11And I love that the the movie keeps this, it's so integral to have that kind of renegade made on a dollar in a dream filmmaking quality to be like, we're not trying to fucking progress the the language of filmmaking here, and that takes a lot of dedication to do what they did and execute it so fucking beautifully. So, as I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh, it's got all these crazy amazing shots and this and that. It's like for what it is trying to do, it is so precise, it is staggering. So four out of five.
SPEAKER_03Okay, five, four and a half, and four. I think we should talk about this movie. Should we start the movie?
Start The Movie (conversation)
SPEAKER_06Let's oh my god, let's start the movie.
SPEAKER_10And now, our feature presentation.
SPEAKER_11Movie started the th the therapist office, like the way that they immediately, Christopher Guest wants to tell you the types of people these are. Like, does Parker Posey and the guy seem like they're like were they in young Republicans in college?
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, absolutely. Is that uh is his name Michael Hitchcock? Is that I I believe so, yeah. Okay, yeah. He's in all of his movies, and he he normally plays like in Waiting for Government, he's like the head of the city council. Like he usually has like and uh in Mighty Wind, I think he's like one of the ones helping organize the he runs the venue, I think. It's so funny to put him into a role like this. And Parker Posey is just you're obsessed with her dude. It's like a gem.
SPEAKER_06He's a dream and a half, and I'm curious if these adult braces on both of them were and I watch through the the credits and they credit the dentist who did their adult braces on both of them.
SPEAKER_07They're real they're real, yeah.
SPEAKER_06To have it, it's just so crazy. Well, and I also love this this therapist theme. They bookended the film with it. They have the they are the yeah, they're the beginning, and the very end is this these therapists helping this crazy couple. But Parker Posey is she's the best of us, she's the best we have. I mean, everybody in this film is the best we have, but just her brain is I would love to just jump in there for a second.
SPEAKER_11Whenever people, for whatever reason, decide to bag on Scream 3. I just say, You're obsessed with her, and you're obsessed with her daughter. Like, if you don't love that Parker Posey performance in that movie specific, she's so special, and the way that it's kind of introducing all of these people, like the the flex and Milbank and Carlin.
SPEAKER_03And like again, as we were talking earlier, Sarah, you were saying like nothing as as absurd as these people are, and every single one of them are like absurd, they don't feel like they wouldn't be some person that you might know.
SPEAKER_06They absolutely exist, everything they're so grounded in their camp and absurdity that it's just it you know them. You know, you've you've heard someone say all these things cookie is saying, or just it it's almost what Christopher Guest does really well, it's almost embarrassing to watch in a way, where you're watching and you're like, Oh, oh my god, I know this person, this is my family member, this is me, this is a friend.
SPEAKER_11But as you're saying that, there's a level when he says, I have two left feet, they called me loopy, and you're like, Oh my god, like your heart breaks for him, and he like laughs, and you're just like, Jesus Christ!
SPEAKER_03Like, I just yeah, again, I just love the delivery. He's like, Yeah, I have two left feet, a common statement to say you can't dance. And he's like, No, no, I um no, I I actually do. I was born with and the camera just showing this shoe. Just like uh it's yeah, every time it's pure genius, it's pure genius. Meeting all of these people, meeting going to the fish, the uh fishing shop and mean Harlem. You mean Harlem Pepba?
SPEAKER_09What's the dog's name? Anybody remember the doll's name? And he's a basset hound, right?
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, he's a bloodhound. He's a bloodhound. Well, and Christopher Guest characters, if you're to look at like his films, they're all so wildly different.
SPEAKER_03Corky in Waiting for Guffman, The Six Fingered Man, it's uh Spinal Tap.
SPEAKER_11Larry Miller, the guy who plays Max, like the husband in this one, who plays the city council member and Guffman and I mean, even the the side people, like he just works with a great team of folks, all of them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean, I feel like that that group, like you were saying, sir, like when you have a group you trust so much where you're just like, I don't know, we have 24 pages or how many the 16 pages of a 16 pages, 24 days. Yeah, is like let's I don't know, let's shoot some shit and let's see what happens.
SPEAKER_06And then you in the edit, you find this wild, and especially Coolidge, because I'm sure when a lot of people, I mean, she's auditioned for so many things and she's worked, she has a storied career, but I'm sure that she goes into some auditions and people are like, She is very odd. And to be able to harness how incredibly odd she is and use it, she just soars. Just when she's talking about when she's eating that popcorn and talking about how she can't go back in to watch her dog, it just how she like her physicality is with how she's eating the popcorn, her the makeup choices, all of it. It's true genius.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I agree. Her with Jane Lynch, uh, like you know, she's married to this rich dude, and Jane Lynch is the is the very Anna Nicole Smith, very like noted for that, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Right?
SPEAKER_11This old man who can't move, he can't speak, but they talk for hours or they don't talk for hours and they don't talk, and she has to push him off. Like it is he's just so ravenous. I love does anybody have a favorite kind of dog in this? Did we talk about this? I just I love that blood, I love that bloodhound. I really do. I I I think we did talk about this, but I just want to mention what what kind of dog do the braces people have?
SPEAKER_03Is it a Labrador? Why it's Wimer on her. Okay, I feel Wimeroner. That's the one I feel the worst for. I I love I think it's a beautiful dog, but I'm like, this poor dog.
SPEAKER_11They're rubbing off on the dog, she just hates her existence. They hate each other.
SPEAKER_03Like they clearly hate each other, they they don't like they don't belong together, and yet the end of the it's crazy that they just get another dog, is their solution, and the one that's really horny and then humps the therapist at the end.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, that pug is so fucking cute though. Like, I'm a sucker for a pug. I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_03I had a pug in college. Oh, really? Yeah, his name was Marty McFly.
SPEAKER_06Oh, stop!
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he was so sweet.
SPEAKER_06Did he wear a little red vest?
SPEAKER_03No, but we had a little we had a red uh bandana for him.
SPEAKER_11Did he have a little skateboard slash hoverboard? Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03I wish.
SPEAKER_11Uh I like that the Scott and Stefan characters, they're just like, yeah, we we like the same stuff. We like have the same. Oh yeah. Like I like how and the the dogs and the owners are like mirroring each other. Yes. Like how Scott and Stefan mirror each other, and like I don't know. They I've seen this so much in just animal ownership in general. Like we were talking about with the is it Weimaroner? You said it's not Wimeraner, yeah, Wimeroner. Wimeronner is uh can't stand her existence, and them explaining. We we get this breakdown of the dog of the dog show and the arena, this this big venue they're gonna be at, and everything. And it's a big deal, and Parker Posey and the husband or whatever are talking about them meeting. Has anyone ever performed this scene? The scene of meeting at different Starbucks. I've been assigned this scene at random twice. That's wild. The Starbucks scene from this the them meeting and being like, We're catalog people, we love J. Crew, like, and you got espresso, and I thought that was so sexy. And I requested once, I was like, Can I please be the Parker Posey?
SPEAKER_04And I pulled it.
SPEAKER_06I mean, absolutely you should have. It's crazy that you've been assigned that scene because to me it's such a like an improvised moment of genius. Yeah, you know what I mean? But I wish I would have been assigned it. That that whole Starbucks, and there's this beautiful thing too, and it's very it's towing the line where where you can you can tell someone is improvising in a way. You can tell that this oddity is coming off of the top of their head, but it's just getting better and better and better. And I think that that's like something that Christopher Guest does better than anybody else, where it hits the absurd almost to where it's too absurd and then pulls it back. And just them talking about Starbucks and just saying, Well, we weren't at the same Starbucks, we were at Starbucks across the street. Like that's so insane. But then it just deepens the the level of these characters, and yeah, I had a Mac and you had a Mac.
SPEAKER_11And I I love when I said like they're both like they seem like they were both part of the young Republicans of America, and Sarah, you were like, Yes, it's like in the backstory, how much did these two actors build in terms of like what types of people these are? Yeah, because those those characters are so interesting and hilarious.
SPEAKER_06When her talking about the Karma Kama Sutra and how she did, God, what was it? It was like the bent over cow or some like something, the sacred cow. I don't remember what it was, but it was yes, and it was the I think it maybe just be Parker Posey, where you can see her thinking in such a strategic, wild way, but it's also true to her character. So it never feels like I'm out of it. It's just that beautiful thing when you go to like a really special improv show and you're like, wow, I'm seeing something that you'll never see again, except Christopher Guest has this like filmed and watching her go, like, Yes, the Karma Sutra, the sacred, like it just it's perfect.
SPEAKER_11There's something you just hit for me with what you're saying. I never see her thinking, like, what should I say? It always feels like, should I say this? Yeah, there's such a huge difference between those two things, like where it seems like she she's reticent to say something because is it too personal? Is it TMI? Like it never feels like she's like, I don't know what to say, I'm jamming. Like, it never feels like that. It's it's in watching her work is incredible. Yeah, watching Christopher Guest do the kind of the same thing when he's in the woods, and I'm like, this guy should have a rifle. For some reason, it would just be funny if he had a rifle. I don't know why. Maybe that's the American in me. But when he's doing the voice and talking about how he works telepathic about winning and smooching that dog's face, yeah, it's so adorable.
SPEAKER_06Well, and I love it, you know, improv is the wild west, you never know. And I I whenever I did improv at Jet City Improv back in the day, yeah, I net like I loved improvising with people who I never have because it's so scary. And I was thinking of that when he was working with that bloodhound, you know, he has no idea what this dog is gonna do, and it just made it even better watching it with like him trying to give the dog kisses and it moving its head and him smushing the face.
SPEAKER_03I think that's yeah, for all of this, none no one knows what the dog's gonna do, really, right?
SPEAKER_11Oh they're all so highly trained. There's a level of trust that I feel like the actors have for the animals and kind of the animals for the actors at most of the time that is like kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we gotta get okay. So I I love that we they introduce all of these people who are all going to this place. Uh we have to I have to mention Ed Bigley Jr. as the runner of the hotel, uh, because he's such a great straight man and and so dry, and and like the whole plot line of of the uh flex showing up and their card not working.
SPEAKER_06And they don't have$300, so you don't even have$30.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and he's like, Don't worry, we're gonna they're gonna put them in a fucking he's so sweet, yeah, yeah, so sweet. But like putting them in amazing in the cleaning closet, and like and they're like, We're gonna bring you a cot.
SPEAKER_06Uh don't worry.
SPEAKER_03And they get room service. Oh, the the the the luxury of that is that the kitchen's literally right next door.
SPEAKER_11We will alert the staff to your presence.
SPEAKER_03Is there a bathroom? Yeah, uh uh uh downstairs, three levels in the lobby, lobby bathroom.
SPEAKER_11The way it's structured, too, kind of similar to so many of these types of films that's so integral. Is here's kind of who these people are and what they're doing, or whatever, and like the journey, and then doing the thing, and going on the journey with Stefan and Scott, especially, like with the packing stuff and the rearranging the hotel, and just the way that they like to do things, like the kimonos.
SPEAKER_06They're the opposite eight kimonos, it was seven, and then he's like, We're only staying for 48 hours, and he's like, Well, I'm gonna need another one right now.
SPEAKER_11I was like them being the opposite of the Parker Posey couple, like where they're very similar, but everything just works.
SPEAKER_03When they go to the airport and they're just in sync airport, and that guy pets the dog and the dog barks. What did you? What did you do? Oh my god, what did you do to her?
SPEAKER_11She needs a muzzle, and so do you, sir. Mr. He says Mr. That stuck out to me. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. The fucking busy bee.
SPEAKER_11So the flex are gonna go 140 miles out of their way to go see some guy that they haven't seen for years, yeah, and they keep doubling down, tripling whatever down on her backstory having so many different lovers, yeah. Like on the and Larry Miller and Eugene Levy having this back and forth, and Eugene Levy like always calling people out, like always like having a feeling about it, like always being like, Hey, that's my wife. Yeah, like I really like that.
Meet Me Halfway (through the movie)
SPEAKER_06Well, and just just Catherine O'Hara's beautiful realization with every person because she doesn't know who they are, and then it's you see it hit her face and her eyes, and she's like, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember you. Oh yeah, I remember you, and it's just it's so perfect. And also the the first lover with that they went 140 miles out of the way to see him being a hostage negotiator and/or like a suified negotiator, and then his son, yes, his and then we get to see a hostage situation play out, and he's horrible at it, and he's like get down, they all jump, I will jump.
SPEAKER_07Yes, that poor little that cute little dog.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, winky oh, he's tied to a parachute or something, or so insane or whatever that mommy's not mad at you.
SPEAKER_11She just don't don't do that, don't get it in your food. The parachuter man, the you were talking about the hostage negotiator thing, Sarah. I love when they come up there to the house and Eugene Levy's like, this place is a fucking dump. Like, there's a level pointing out like that the the budget for the film is what it is, and like this guy is who we like what he does is a hostage negotiator for three counties, and it's like, how does this guy not make like a bajillion dollars? And Eugene Levy pointing that out is so funny to me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they win, right? Yeah, they win, yeah.
SPEAKER_06God loves a terrier. Spoilers, spoiler. But him talking about the the person jumping off and then their head getting stuck in like a gargoyle and then decapitation, and then like what the body sounds like, and everything falls out. Like, those are the moments in improv where you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep going. This is so insane. So insane. I'm obsessed. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_11When they check in, when everybody checks in and Stefan and and Scott refer to the godfather, which I was I hate. I'm sorry. Like apparently this is a downer episode, but he's R.I.P. to Robert Duvall. But they reference him directly. But does anybody else notice all the clocks are the same time?
SPEAKER_06What?
SPEAKER_03What do you mean?
SPEAKER_11Like all the clocks behind the desk are in at the same time in the different things.
SPEAKER_06Oh, what they're saying that they're in different at all.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's pretty funny.
SPEAKER_06Never noticed that, and I'm I'm obsessed with that. That is, and I I also really loved the Stefan scene where they are watching Jane Lynch's characters round. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, they're studying tape.
SPEAKER_06They're studying tape, and they're bringing the dog, and they're like, stop eating the shirt. Like it's just like this. And you know, you know that that wasn't in the script. Like these these are the moments that are just you're grabbing. I think my favorite dog actor is that Shih Tzu, only because of like how they lift it and bring it to the tables, and its body is just so stiff with its little ponytail, and it sat down, and it literally looks like a stuffed animal and is truly unhinged. Um, but just their relationship in that in that hotel room where they're calling their other dog and singing him a song.
SPEAKER_03It's so sweet.
SPEAKER_06And and just and you know, like I have a lot of like beautiful gay men in my life that remind me of these two, where I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna talk about holding the sausage at a at a butcher's place and just yeah, that was so they're so funny.
SPEAKER_11The dynamic is so good.
SPEAKER_03I love I love when we because we meet all these people separately and then the like the like mixer where they all get put together. Right. I love that because you're just like, oh my god, what are these like who's gonna meet who and what kind of weird things are gonna happen here?
SPEAKER_11I I love that Scott and Stefan end up calling out Christy at times for like just being like somebody who wants to intimidate people and undercut people. I feel like Christy and Eugene Levy and and Cookie to it, like they all have these really great like character arcs that kind of happen like sneakily through the movie. But then, as Ben mentioned off mic, the fucking secret sauce shows up. Oh, yeah, and all of a sudden Fred Willard just blows up the fucking spot.
SPEAKER_03He is I think he is the room, I think he ties the room together in in all. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_06Because the normal person watching this film is not going to know about dog shows, so he's giving us a place to sit in his lap, his metaphorical lap, but also be he it's so absurd the things he's saying. So it's just kind of like the questions we have are getting answered in the most hilarious way.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, he's he's asking every question without thinking. It feels it feels so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and it's obviously mostly improvised, which is what makes it even better. Where he's it does like to to anyone else, you're just watching a judge like look at a dog's butthole, and you're just like, What exactly are they looking for here?
SPEAKER_06And the the duo of those two, how annoyed the British judge is getting over and over. It's so beautiful, and then they finally get to he finally agrees with him with the two left feet.
SPEAKER_03It's how does he not break it? Like, how does Fred Willard not get him to break it sometimes?
SPEAKER_11Because that's gotta be directing from Christopher Guest or cutting or editing or like second something because I feel like Willard sneakily has the funniest line in the movie, and it happens in a flash. I had to go back to be like, what do you say? Where cookie is showing. Winky and Fred Willard says that handler looks familiar to me.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, genius.
SPEAKER_11He's like comparing uh the Weimaraner to Shoeless Joe, where he's like, Oh, off in shame, but remembered me remembered. You're like, what is happening?
SPEAKER_03Wasn't it a greyhound? He's like, No, are those dogs fast?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's just like if it was gonna race another animal, like who would win? And the guy's like, I really I have no idea. I don't I could not answer that.
SPEAKER_11It's so funny. Those two it does make me want to re-watch dodgeball to a degree, like just because I love that dynamic.
SPEAKER_03I that's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it plays out for him.
SPEAKER_11Harry Carey uh Will Farrell on SNL. Like just where it's like the first fucking question that hits his mind.
SPEAKER_02If the moon was made of Swiss cheese, would you eat it?
SPEAKER_06It's so weird, and I'm obsessed. Well, and then there's this beautiful moment when Catherine O'Hara hurts her knee. And the other two everyone jumps water, yeah. Everybody, and there's this like beautiful, like we in movies we're like always thinking of the highest stakes, and these stakes aren't that high.
SPEAKER_03No, it's it it it reminds me again of Drop Dead Gorgeous, where to these people, this is the biggest it's everything, yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's the biggest thing in the world, yeah. And but when you step back, you're like, this is the smallest, like no one's gonna remember Tuesday in the states.
SPEAKER_11The amount of competitions and ways to get ribbons and stuff, it's insane. It's really cool that the movie gives these moments where somebody that was called loopy has to do this thing in this movie, and get to prove that he's worthy of his wife that he has taken from every man on the face of the planet that's met her. Yeah, like she chose him, and we kind of see why, which is really beautiful. The movie has a lot of really good messaging where Christy comes around to help Cookie, and there's this transition for them where they become clear in the in terms of that they're lesbians, yeah, and they live their life happily. It's it's really nice.
SPEAKER_03I love that Scott and Stefan are watching the tape and they're like, oh, and they just see them start yeah, rigorously making out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and they're like, She has two mommies. We're like, yeah, she like it was it's perfect, it's perfect.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, wink winky winning with Jerry is like a very, very nice payoff.
SPEAKER_03Oh, 100%. And the only other person I would want to win would be Holland Peppo.
SPEAKER_06I love oh my god, me too. But you know what? He's gonna win in two to three years. That's what the other judge said. They're like, he's got it in two to three years, so we're we're fine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know how they know that, but sure.
SPEAKER_11He's just like too young, like he's too young of a puppy.
SPEAKER_09Was that his first so bad?
SPEAKER_03That was his first because he was the rookie. They looked at Harlan Pepper's butthole. No, hold on. Go back. I want to go back. I want to go back to what saved me.
SPEAKER_11I want to go back to what you're moving back to the butthole.
SPEAKER_06So the ball's in the butthole.
SPEAKER_11Um in the annals. No, I I like what they're saying about something about the trainer and/or the dog, like something's like not quite there, but there's there's something special. I like that there's like a tease in that like the Seahawks last season.
SPEAKER_03Whoa, and now this season.
SPEAKER_11Way to bring it back around.
SPEAKER_03They did it.
SPEAKER_11Way to bring it back around. And after everything that all these people have invested, and everything that happened, not to the same stakes as Drop Dead Gorgeous, where fucking people are dead and whatever. But in in this movie, a dog has been replaced, and other people are leaning into ventriloquism and doing albums and all this other stuff that like most of these people have kind of moved on with their lives.
SPEAKER_03His ventriloquism is crazy when he's practicing with the mirror.
SPEAKER_06I when I was a little kid, I had a I had a um puppet or van what is that? Like uh his name is Mortimer Schnerd. Have you ever heard of this?
SPEAKER_11Good name.
SPEAKER_06We we tried to sell him at a garage sale, and someone returned him without like didn't want their money back, just set him on our porch. This just reminds me of evil spirits, evil spirit.
SPEAKER_03Did you read goosebumps?
SPEAKER_06I absolutely did, and that it's it's the same through line there. And we had Mortimer Schnerd forever. We don't know where he is, but my brother and I did take ventriloquism seamlessly for a couple years in the 90s. We really tried to, you know, get our T's and really do it. But I loved seeing him practice and getting the book out and being like, How do you get this? Like this neck.
SPEAKER_03Uh how do you say F?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like practice.
SPEAKER_01He was trying to say fat, and it was powerful.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, just genius. Chunky, chubby, chuggy, chubby, chuggy, chuggy, chrr. What a movie. Like, I I feel like we really breezed through this movie, and I think part of it is like, I don't want to over talk about this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's also the movie isn't like full of meat, you know. It's right, it's it's a wonderful movie. It's like go everybody, if you haven't seen it, watch this movie, but like you can't deep dive to talk about the like themes of I mean, there are great themes in the movie.
SPEAKER_11There are a couple characters that have nice payoffs or like arcs at the end, but like overall, it's it just feels like it's about folks, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Folks, normal folks. And what Christopher Guest does that I love is he does a good post-mortem in every single one of his movies. He shows you what everybody's doing after the big event that every that everyone's lives were leading up to this thing that was so important, but really to the world is nothing. And then you get to see what they're doing after, and it's like uh Winky's parents were like, Well, yeah, we had so many interviews, we had three, you know, it was just this like just so sweet, and then they're recording their album about dogs and they sound horrible, and it's just you know, and then she had a had a relationship with the audio tech. It's just so beautiful to see like this is gonna happen to Eugene Levy's character for the rest of his life, and it's so it's just like the perfect button on that, but she loves him.
SPEAKER_11He's always gonna be kind of proving himself or offering his love or whatever. Like, I think it's really beautiful. I love that Stefan and Scott end up doing a calendar.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, yeah, it's great, would buy, would buy this calendar. So good.
SPEAKER_11Like the Casablanca and like the various, like whatever. I I like how also the movie kind of weirdly has clear like villains where like Christy's kind of a villain, but then redeems herself at the end, and then it has like these people that were probably part of the young Republicans who just like still at suck at the end where they're like, This life, this soul, or whatever is replaceable. Like, we're just gonna wear more colorful clothing and spike our hair more, and if they were uh uh more energetic dog.
SPEAKER_03I mean, they're yeah, they're they're uh avoidance, right? They're just avoiding the classic. But I I just wish they would have showed their dog, like their their old dog.
SPEAKER_06Oh like where he is now.
SPEAKER_03What's he and like being happy and like a good point? Just happy somewhere else, just to like yeah, since that I'm more invested in that dog than I am in them.
SPEAKER_06Um, I guess you know where Busy B is now. Like, I want to know where Busy B is. Like, did we find Busy B? Like let's like end that thread.
SPEAKER_03That's that's a bear in a bee's costume, bear in a bee's costume.
SPEAKER_06Um, and then the the Sherry Ann Christie relationship of having that that like what was it, little bitch magazine or whatever that lesbian dog owners American bacheloring truly just a cherry on the top of this beautiful Sunday of a movie.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Last thing I want to say, I guess, about the villain arc or young republicans thing when Parker Posey is like, Where are your papers to somebody like out of nowhere? And you're like, Who the fuck is this bitch?
SPEAKER_06That whole scene, I was like, No, no, no.
SPEAKER_11She's so like she's so hateable and so good at it.
SPEAKER_03Like, what an incredible that was to the cleaner hotel, right? Yes, in the hotel when they were looking for Busy Blacking hard at that.
SPEAKER_06They were kind of giving me like Christmas vacation neighbors, like Duke and Julia Lou Dreyfus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I don't know. I know, I don't know, Margot.
SPEAKER_11Right, yeah. Oh man, cheersful. That's fine.
Final Ratings
SPEAKER_06Yeah, the dream. But just that that horrific couple is yeah, but the bookends of them starting and ending in theory are good bookend. Perfect. Uh I love this movie. Thank you for letting me watch it again.
SPEAKER_03I don't want our episode to be over because that means we're done talking, but we gotta rate this with Sarah. I know. But we love having Sarah on the show.
SPEAKER_11And I love hanging out with you guys. We're so pleased to have you.
SPEAKER_03You're you're the Christopher guest.
SPEAKER_11Oh cool. Thank you. Who would you like to rate first? Would you like to rate re-rate first? Are you up, down, same? Would you like one of us to go?
SPEAKER_06I'll go first. Um, I'm sticking with my five busy bees as I am in a place in my life where I needed to see this work. And this this rating could change at any moment. Who knows? But right now, me sitting watching it yesterday, and then I watched it again today. I had such a and right now, watching stuff without using another screen is difficult because a lot of the time I'm with my three-year-old watching a show I don't like. And I put the phone away and watched it through its entirety. And it made me feel like, oh God, I want to do improv again. Oh my gosh, I want to. That's fun. I want to do this is something I want to be a part of. And it kind of gave me that like I was reinvigorated a bit. So that's why I'm sticking with the five busy bees.
SPEAKER_08I love that. I like that.
SPEAKER_03Uh, I'm also gonna stay. I'm staying at four and a half nuts, peanuts, wellness. I could talk myself up to a five, I could talk myself down to a four, but I think at the end of the day, like this is just a movie that I is in like rewatchable to the end of time. And I uh I think that says a lot for me because I don't re-watch a lot of movies anymore. But I could literally re-watch this movie right now.
SPEAKER_11Same. I maybe could too. I rewatched Waiting for Guffman. I don't know what it's gonna be like to re-watch Home Alone, which is a regular one for me. Oh but yeah, I think I'm with y'all. I this is the order I want five, four and a half, four. You're right where I want you to be. I'm I'm still at a four, but the movie leans on this incredible work by this team of people that know exactly how all the pieces fit, and again, it is essential that the movie is made the way that it is for what it's supposed to be, etc. etc. But it's not like this is a weird thing to say. It's not like I'm watching Who Frame Roger Rabbit.
SPEAKER_06It's a five-star movie or Amade.
SPEAKER_11Neither my favorite movie, but arguably two of the greatest movies ever made. This movie is absolutely fantastic, though. Like it deserves every accolade it got, and considerably more, probably. Sarah, thank you so much. Sarah.
SPEAKER_06Thanks, guys. I had a blast.
SPEAKER_03Uh we're going to end the show. That's what we do at the end, is we end the show.
SPEAKER_06Oh, we end it. Okay.
SPEAKER_11Weird, but bye from the Nina Pinta Santa Marina Kennel Club. Don't enter that. That's better.
SPEAKER_05Everyone loves a terrier.
SPEAKER_11That's better.
SPEAKER_03Sarah, uh, before we say a bunch of things, where can people find you? Where can they see you?
SPEAKER_06You know, the internet.
SPEAKER_03Great.
SPEAKER_06The internet, kids. I'm there. I'm having a great time over on Instagram. I deleted TikTok. Find me.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, if you can find it. That thing's not gonna last. That internet, that's not gonna last. Nah.
SPEAKER_06It's a fad. It's a fad.
SPEAKER_03No, thanks. Thanks for Al Gore. Yeah, what? What's it gonna last? Six, seven years?
SPEAKER_11Who cares? Six, seven.
SPEAKER_02All right. Uh we have to get out of here. Our bookend themes are by Jamie Henwood.
SPEAKER_11Our what are we doing and what are we watching? Themes are Matthew Foskett. Fun facts is Chris Olds, our interstitials are Ben. I do some editing on this. Thank you so much for listening to this program. Hey, like, subscribe, rate, share, text us anonymously. We are at Review X2 Podcast on Blue Sky and on Instagram. I am at PaulaxBadly on Letterboxd.
SPEAKER_03At Run BMC.
SPEAKER_11And you at I don't have it, but I love it. That's Goatsy on Instagram. Yeah, thanks. We covered it.
SPEAKER_03That's it. We're done.
SPEAKER_11Got it. Yeah. Five, four and a half, four, three.
SPEAKER_03The way I want them.
SPEAKER_11Exactly the way I want them. Thanks for watching.
SPEAKER_03Bye. Broom vroom.
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