Ever been so annoyed by something small that you surprised yourself with the intensity of your reaction? That's where our latest episode takes off, hand in hand with our friend Kyle— a carpet cleaning maestro with a unique aversion to pet-pee-tainted footwear. This LOL discussion peels back the layers of those tiny triggers that set us off, revealing the personal histories that often shape our biggest pet peeves. From borrowed items that never return to personal space invaders, we share stories that'll have you nodding along and chuckling at the absurdity of it all.
And we're not just griping; we're getting real about the emotional ties we have to our stuff and the societal norms that sometimes let litterbugs and loose shopping carts test our patience.
And, as its prone to happen on our Fireside chat, the convo through our annoyances winds down with a sobering visit to the world of traumatic cleanup crews. We reflect on the heavy burdens some carry and the inspiring interactions that remind us to cherish the mundane. Don't keep us all to yourself—spread the joy and hilarity of our dumpster dive into the human psyche by sharing this episode. Trust us, your friends will thank you for the laughs and maybe even find a piece of themselves in our stories.
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Ever been so annoyed by something small that you surprised yourself with the intensity of your reaction? That's where our latest episode takes off, hand in hand with our friend Kyle— a carpet cleaning maestro with a unique aversion to pet-pee-tainted footwear. This LOL discussion peels back the layers of those tiny triggers that set us off, revealing the personal histories that often shape our biggest pet peeves. From borrowed items that never return to personal space invaders, we share stories that'll have you nodding along and chuckling at the absurdity of it all.
And we're not just griping; we're getting real about the emotional ties we have to our stuff and the societal norms that sometimes let litterbugs and loose shopping carts test our patience.
And, as its prone to happen on our Fireside chat, the convo through our annoyances winds down with a sobering visit to the world of traumatic cleanup crews. We reflect on the heavy burdens some carry and the inspiring interactions that remind us to cherish the mundane. Don't keep us all to yourself—spread the joy and hilarity of our dumpster dive into the human psyche by sharing this episode. Trust us, your friends will thank you for the laughs and maybe even find a piece of themselves in our stories.
Be sure to LIKE, SHARE, and FOLLOW on Spotify, Apple Podcast, and YouTube!
Also - we want to hear your 23 and ME Story! Share it at dumpsterdivejj@gmail.com AND just maybe you'll get selected for the show!
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You are listening to dumpster diving with Jan, janus and Jane. I just fucked it up. Sweet, I blame everybody else, and then I fuck it up.
Speaker 3:And on recording and everybody's going to hear you repeat it and do it again. Let's go. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:You are listening to dumpster diving with Janus and Jane and we are hot, coming in hot today on the fire. It's the fire. It's the fire. It's a fire side chat. It's a fire side chat. We have a very, very, very special guest. Well, I'll be the judge of that. I just met the man. So I'll let you know how special he is, that's true.
Speaker 3:That's true, and we've got a couple of guests on.
Speaker 1:I think now JP is like our mutual guest. He is yeah, we both have true guests, we both have a mutual guest. Yeah, we both have tremendous love for that man. It's just so weird how you fall in love with JP. I know it's weird, it's like I obsessed no, I'm just kidding. So we have our mutual friend, jp, at this point and then you've had a couple of your friends on and found yours and I have two and I guess it was so fun. So I love that we're bringing on one of my other people in my world and a very actually like important person in my world, because we have been besties for how many years? Kyle, 13 years.
Speaker 2:It's been a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been a long time and we have been through a lot together.
Speaker 3:Yes, like I, think he probably knows a lot of secrets about you. Again, he and I are going to need phone number exchanges because I need to know.
Speaker 2:We can make this happen.
Speaker 1:Look, kyle, please don't ruin my image with my sister, okay.
Speaker 3:That's right, as far as I know she must be. She like walks on water and floats with the clouds. I mean, she's just perfect, Evidently.
Speaker 2:I believe sometimes she actually takes back her human form from being like either a unicorn or a mermaid.
Speaker 3:Quite often, Wait, everybody take a moment and picture. Okay, all right, okay, no, no, I, I, I pictured both at the same time. The unicorn mermaid, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's a great picture. That's a whole new visual that probably.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 2:I can see you turning this into a tattoo Do not.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love it, I love it, all right.
Speaker 3:Let me back up for a second, though Let me back up for a second. We got to tell people what we're going to talk about, so they'll keep listening to the episode, and then you're going to pick back up with your intro to Kyle and how we ended up. You tell them how we ended up here. The first thing we're going to do is we're going to show you how we ended up. You tell them how we ended up here. The fireside today, you guys, is going to be about pet peeves.
Speaker 3:Yes, every single person in the world can relate to this conversation, because we all fricking have them and it's a fire type chat because you know, god only knows where it's going to go when we start talking about that kind of stuff. But now come back to Kyle and tell us how we ended up deciding that we had to talk about this.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, okay, so. So, just as a in a nutshell, kyle's my relationship. We've been we've been friends for almost 14 years now. We met through a mutual friend in the tattoo industry, started talking and I don't think ever stopped talking since then.
Speaker 1:So you know, we just it was one of those friendships that you just click, you know and and everything makes sense and everything is hilarious and we have a great time together. So Kyle lives in Atlanta, georgia, or or close to Atlanta Georgia, so he's three hours ahead of me, but it's great because he's a night owl so we get to talk for a couple hours each night. So we actually face times every night and hang out and have our own like stony. Story time is what we call it Stony story time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, they're in live, okay, yes.
Speaker 1:They're in live. You know what? I didn't smoke weed when I first met Kyle. So here's, here's the. That's the truth of it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, but you just came out of left field with it one day it was like, oh yeah, probably I'm on my phone.
Speaker 1:And he's like dude, this is so cool that you like smoke weed and we can just do this. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Anyways, so the other night we were talking and he, he told me a story about what happened to him that day and and I started laughing and I was like, come on, man, it wasn't that bad. She's like no, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, this is deep seated. You know, like this, this has a really long route to it.
Speaker 1:So where in the world did this come from? And he sat there and thought and then he told me the story and I was like there you go, there you go, so we. And it was like, and it wasn't even really a pet peeve, but I tied it to pet peeve because that's like the quickest thing I could think of. But anything that gets your goat, like it could be trauma, it could be a funny thing, it could be you were embarrassed or you know it could be anything. But we all have certain things that are either one triggers for us or a pet peeve, or whatever you want to call it. Where it's like we, we do not even bend on it Like. This is what it is.
Speaker 2:And like there's no tolerance for it at all, Zero zero.
Speaker 1:So, kyle, I would love for you to share the story that you told me and then, and then, the story that was the root cause. So, so, please enlighten us with this story, because it was great.
Speaker 3:Well, can I really quickly. So we heard who you are through Jane's life. What else should we eat? You live out near Atlanta. What else? What else should we know about? Who is Kyle? Really? Yes, because actually.
Speaker 2:I live like maybe about 30 minutes north of Atlanta. I lived here pretty much my whole life. I have two daughters, and one's 27, one's 18. And let's see I do. I help manage a carpet cleaning business and we do Water restoration, crime scene cleaning, trauma cleanup, stuff like that, other episodes.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know I know, I know. I know.
Speaker 3:I know, I know.
Speaker 1:I know that's all Keep going, keep going, yeah, that that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:But I'll see, you're a gun enthusiast. You are Definitely, definitely a gun enthusiast. I have some really close friends that own several gun ranges around here, so I go and help out in their places, right, sometimes and hang out, and I like shooting in the competitions and just the camaraderie of everybody there. So Hang out with my kids as much as I can. Just enjoy life and go do stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Kyle one. A couple of things I can say about Kyle is that he's a tremendous father like he. That's one thing that I have always been like. Thank you not envious but very appreciative of his point of view and how he raised his daughters and co-parented with his ex-wife and stuff like that, because I met Him when his now 18 year old daughter was what six? Was she six? Something like that.
Speaker 2:So oh yeah little, little little.
Speaker 1:And Jenny was six months old, you know so, and. But he's always been such a consistent person in their life and and pretty much took care of a lot of them, but a lot of the time. So when his one daughter lived with him, no matter what you know she wanted to be with dad. So he's, he's a tremendous dad he is. It has the kindest heart in the world, would give the shirt off of his back to anybody and loves all things stupid. He asked me no, get this. He asked me he goes. This is the free, the nipple campaign, because I'm ready. No, we're not free any nipples on our path.
Speaker 3:No, no, not even a whole different level of fires side chat.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Not that business, kyle. We're not in that business.
Speaker 3:So now I feel like I know you a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Sorry, that was my fault.
Speaker 3:Context. No, no, I know, because we needed to hear it from him too, right? So, um, sorry, let's hear it. What's that? What's the story that let us down this path? I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. So the other day I finished doing a job, I'm at this apartment complex and there's this lady walking a dog. It's a little husky, a little puppy, it's super fuzzy, super sweet little dude and he wants to play and he runs up to me and I'm petting in and he pees on my shoe and I was like, yeah, it happens, you know like little, you know little little stuff happens from time to time and and uh, sorry about that delusion, so you know, no big deal.
Speaker 2:I get home and I immediately just put the shoes in the garage and like I'm you know, because I'm like I can't, I can't do that and I'm very clean, right, and like my shoes stay in boxes organized, they stay. Oh wow, I keep all my stuff clean, right.
Speaker 3:So that's a key part of this story. So you have, your shoes are like in their original boxes, so you're a shoe guy like you. Yes, big shoes.
Speaker 2:Okay all right keep going Gotcha. So I was like dude, I'm not gonna clean them Once I've got pee on them, that's it. It's gonna smell forever and it's horrific and I'm not dealing with that and I go.
Speaker 1:Kyle, you clean carpet for a living. You remove pet odor from carpet, Like you have to have something. And he's like no, and like with conviction, with his whole chest, and I was like okay, this had to come from somewhere. Where did it come from?
Speaker 2:And he's like okay, here's what happened. All right, all right. When I was a kid, on Christmas, I wanted this. I really wanted these pair of Air Jordans, right, and I was so stoked I had wrote a letter to Santa and everything and like it was. Like you know, it took a kid a long ass time. When it's like two pages of how you need these shoes in your life and how you're gonna run faster, you're gonna jump higher.
Speaker 2:You're gonna do everything you know, like it was just trying to sell the whole bit. I love it. I love it. Got them, I'd wear them all the time. One night I left them outside, oh no. One night Got a cat, pee dog, oh, and you're not getting that smell out. So it's like it ruined it. The shoes were ruined. I tried to clean them.
Speaker 2:I tried all kinds of stuff, oh, okay, okay and everything and it was like no man, I can't have this. So you know the other dog, you know like, if that happens no, I mean, it's not like I get peed on, don't get me wrong, that's the same in general, like I usually don't just randomly walk around and get peed on by animals, but you know so that was it?
Speaker 3:It was like once you peed on it you flashed back to that experience and actually the first time it sounds like you did try to clean it and, because it's something worked in your mind, it was like that's it, it's over.
Speaker 2:That was like no way man, no way Like, and I think it's also like a combination of doing carpet cleaning for so long. Yeah, that like when I walk into an apartment, I can tell if you had a cat, I can tell if you had a dog.
Speaker 3:Oh internet.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing, like like certain cooking odors, like you learn what is what, so that way you know the right chemicals to combat whatever you have to deal with or whatever treatment you need to do. And it's like walking in is like it's just gonna feel terrible and I'm like I'm not willing to make this sacrifice for my foot dude, like no, I'm just gonna get another pair of hands.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, that's awesome. So I'm guessing the day this happened, when you were telling Jane, you were probably pretty pissed, like you were frustrated as hell about it. I'm guessing.
Speaker 2:Well, it was one of these things Like I wasn't gonna let it ruin my day because, I have to be honest, I have a multitude of shoes to pick from. But it was one of these things where I was like son of a bitch.
Speaker 3:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:You know, like dude, I was trying to pet you, bro. Why are you gonna pee on me? Man, I didn't pee on you, you know what?
Speaker 3:though. I think you're to blame, though, because clearly you got that dog so excited that they just couldn't control themselves literally.
Speaker 2:I don't know man, oh my gosh, just one of those little puppies and this little pee pee puppy, I guess.
Speaker 1:Little pee body.
Speaker 3:So what are you thinking about then? So in this case it was, like you said, kind of a pet peeve in terms of the fact that it included pets and that there was pee. So because of that pet peeve, it's a pet peeve, pet peeve. But you it sounds like you said like you dug beyond. It was like, okay, I get why you'd be mad and I get, but the fact that you won't even try to clean makes no sense at all, and then you kind of got to the back story.
Speaker 2:Right, because I was like oh man because if I try to clean this, I know it's gonna happen Like there's certain kinds of chemicals you can use on things, certain not, and it's just like nope, and I know the way I am about cleanliness. Oh yeah, and it's just that's like the pet peeve of it about it. So I know it's there. Like you know, I'm driving on the street and I'm like, well, here goes old P-foot getting ready to go to work.
Speaker 3:No, so it sounds like a little bit of pet peeve mixed in with a little OCD.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's what it is, it is.
Speaker 3:Like nope, nope, not having it, not having it.
Speaker 3:So the very so I'm gonna let's kind of talk a little bit more about like additional pet peeves that we have, and the really funny thing is that my so you know, jane and our audience know that we have Joe and I have six kids between us, and one of my daughters today called the 26 year old and she was like telling me about being and if she lives on the East Coast in Virginia and telling me about being at a family dinner there, and someone at dinner I won't say who, I don't think they listened, but I don't want to embarrass anybody was eating with their mouth open and she was like we were coming to this. I was coming into this episode today, so I've been thinking about like what are some of the top pet peeves, what are all the things? And she was like bomb. Oh my God, all I could do.
Speaker 3:I was sitting there and all I could think was like at least cover your mouth, cause I guess he was talking right, while he was like she's like at least cover your mouth, and she so she's like I. She's like that has never bothered me before, I don't know why. And I was like, honestly, I think it changes as you get older, like the stuff you bothered, you change it. It's not always the same, but it was so funny and I just said to her that is honestly one of my biggest ones. People talking with their mouth full or just making noise when they chew oh my God, it's like that whole like that that's.
Speaker 2:That's smacking noise.
Speaker 3:I can't. I can't, it just makes me want to gag. It just makes me want to gag. And there's no backstory to that, Jane, it's just. It just makes me want to gag.
Speaker 1:This is gross. It looks gross, so I'll share. I'll share one of mine and and this is, I think this is one of my, probably my top pet peeve and and this is deep rooted for sure, and it's individuals borrowing or using my stuff and not putting it back where it belongs.
Speaker 3:Oh hell no.
Speaker 1:I will lose my motherfucking mind. I go to zero to 60 in in a, at a half a second because, especially if I'm looking for something and cause, I know exactly where I put everything. And I have I don't want to say photographic memory, but I think I do because I can, like I'm a very visual person. So somebody goes oh, do you remember where these things are? Actually, yes, I remember putting a bag over it, taking to the storage and putting it in this exact spot and blah, blah, blah, like I remember exactly where it is. So I know where my shit is and when I go to look for it or when I go to get it and I was like, oh, you probably didn't put it. No, I always put it back. I always put it back and exactly where it goes. I know what pocket, what side of the pocket, I know exactly where it is and more times than not my stuff is the shit that gets fucked with and it drives me insane To the point where I broke up with somebody over at one time.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you that story. So I was dating this person and another. Whatever, I'm not even gonna go into it. I was dating this person. Let's just say that, focus, I was dating this person and they were at my house while I was at work one day and they took it upon themselves to do some cleaning and stuff like that. Not that it needed it, but they were just being nice and I was like totally cool with that.
Speaker 1:But I came home and I'm standing in my bathroom and I take my earrings out and I just set them on the counter and they go oh, those don't belong there. Okay, I think that just like rose, the devil horns like came out of my like just shot out of my head, and I looked over and I'm like nobody tells me where to put stuff in my own house. Right, I was like I was so busy living and I broke up with them. Like I was just like like I was so triggered by that. I was just like they had done a couple of things that led up to my extinguishing that relationship, but I was just like that was the straw that broke the camel's back, like they told me. I was just like no, we're not doing this because I'm a very organized person. Don't tell me where to put my shit.
Speaker 3:Here's where it comes from. Features.
Speaker 1:My childhood, of course.
Speaker 3:Of course I did.
Speaker 1:I never had anything of my own. It was always taken or used or eaten or something like that, and so as an adult, I'm like I don't need to worry about that anymore. Now my kids are one thing, I get it, I share everything with them, but they better put the shit back. But there was personal things that got taken from me and broken and not cared about, and so it's just like I just I only have this much stuff. Can we just leave it alone? Just leave it alone. You don't need to touch it, steal it, wear it, you know whatever. So it comes from that like just getting a bunch of stuff taken away from me and not giving back or broken or whatever. Yeah, it's deep seated, but it's such a bad trigger for me. I will admit that it's a bad trigger for me.
Speaker 3:You know I actually. So I don't have that, but I also don't feel like I have it. I don't feel like it happens a lot to me, but I remember my former sister-in-law, now a wonderful friend. I remember when her daughter, my niece, was growing up and got into those teen years and she would borrow clothes right Now I was as a mom of girls. I always thought it meant I was really cool. When my daughter wanted to borrow my clothes, I was like hell, yeah, doesn't happen very often, I'm not that cool. But I remember she they got into this like period of time where her daughter was like constantly just taking her stuff without asking, like you said right, and I don't know if it wasn't putting it back, but I'm gonna wager I guess probably also not putting it back. And I just remember she got to the point where she put a lock, a padlock on her door because she realized her daughter was borrowing her bras and she was like, oh hell, no, that is a lie. That is a lie. I'm not fucking sharing my underwear with you.
Speaker 3:So I remember there was a period of time where she had like a little padlock on her door, which I'm assuming. I don't remember it, but now I'm wondering, but it must be because her daughter had figured out how to pick those little locks. You know how the locks all exist Like a diary lock.
Speaker 3:Right, exactly, exactly, it's gonna keep out all the serial killers. But anyway, you just made me think about that right, that memory of that happening, and for me it's like putting things back where they belong is. You know, I think? I think I've kind of learned to like okay, it is what it is right, because you can't control everything. But I definitely am not quite, I think, as OCD as maybe Kyle is, but I like things to be tidy and so I am like that person who, like the kids know, like okay, if you drop your backpack when you walk in the door, that's fine, but I expected to be upstairs Like I don't want all the shit to fall over.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, that's. That's funny. What other pet peeves do we have? Because I'm now that I'm thinking about it, I have a. I don't have a ton, but I do have certain things that trigger me. I think I don't like littering.
Speaker 3:Oh yes.
Speaker 2:Like like if I'm driving down the street or something and I see somebody just like roll the window down and throw the cup out. If I'm close enough, I'm probably gonna get out and grab it and be like oh, you dropped this.
Speaker 3:Oh, you just reminded me of one. But yes, and Kyle, you know what pisses me Like. I remember so East Coast. I grew up in Virginia, right, so I think that might be more of a Southern thing, and the reason I say that is like I don't think I've ever driven around here in Southern California and seen someone throw something from their car. But when I was growing up in rural spots of Virginia, I remember like driving home like I don't know, elementary age, middle school age, whatever, with my mom and her literally giving me trash to throw out the window.
Speaker 3:I fucking remember that and I'm like now I look at that I was like, and it was just, that was normal, Like we just did that right. And now I think back to that and I was like, oh my God, what was happening?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm here to reassure you that it's very. It happens all the time in Southern California, because just go down by where I work and on our campus you've seen it. It's like cobblestone, paved, you know, super nice on the inside. I've watched people drive in front of the, in front of the center, and take a handful of stuff and throw it out the window inside of our campus and I'm like, did that just?
Speaker 2:happen. I don't, I don't, it's just, it's to me, to me, it's just the sheer thine of laziness. It's like you can probably wait a minute and just. I mean, if you look around, there's gas stations, there's this, there's this, there's, there's all kinds of places, you know strip malls just pull over and throw it out you know, like.
Speaker 3:For me it's a sign of entitlement, and the one you made me remember, which made me go, oh my God, was oh she's, she's dying.
Speaker 1:Oh God, she's dying, she's dying. Please don't die and it's not die. This is the first time I've ever seen a man die, right now, even without camera. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:No, I'm here, I'm here, I don't know, I don't know, I'm here. So I remembered YouTube and I was like they don't need to see this.
Speaker 1:I'm glad we're hearing it, so please, please don't listen to my pet peeve is choking on my own spit.
Speaker 3:No, you maybe think about fucking people who leave their grocery carts in the middle of the parking lot. That is probably my biggest.
Speaker 2:Ladies.
Speaker 3:But to what you say, kyle, it's not laziness, it's fucking entitlement, you know what. Somebody else can do it for me, yeah.
Speaker 2:But apparently there is some sort of hero that I've seen on Instagram or some sort of social media and this guy. What he does is he goes into parking lots and if people get out of their car and leave it there before they leave, he zip ties it to the door handle of their car so they can't see their love.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's just great.
Speaker 2:Or he'll go behind them, he'll wait and he'll just go, and he'll put the grocery cart right behind their car.
Speaker 1:so they have to get out to move it, so they can back their car out. I love it.
Speaker 3:Because, you know, I think, like those people in the grocery store who are not getting paid a lot of money to clean up carts, they have enough to do right, and so it just and here's what's interesting, and I swear this is the connection I've made here, I don't know if it's common so we live in about five minutes, 10 minutes and 10 minutes in either direction.
Speaker 3:There's a grocery store same chain, it's called Boncier, it's Safeway on the East Coast, and one is in a neighborhood that I would call a little bit more upscale. It's not like it's any major, you know high end or whatever, but a little bit more. The other is in a neighborhood that's a little like more like solid middle class, maybe a little less. Always, always, always at the one where it's a little bit more of a higher income area. That's where they fucking leave the carts out. They keep on the other one clean up their own shit, right, put their stuff away, and it's all good. But the and we go to both and I swear to you I've never seen a cart randomly sitting in the one where it's like kind of solid middle class, just, you know, whatever the other one all the time, all the time there's at least a half a dozen carts sitting all over the place.
Speaker 2:See it's just lazy. It's lazy, and I agree with you. It's a story, it's a, it's an entitlement, it's a. Well, I don't have to do that.
Speaker 3:Or I do People who work here or whatever. You know when it's like I'm in a hurry and I'm like we're all in a fucking hurry. Like everybody's got something to do. Exactly, that's a big, big one for me. Oh my God, that makes me insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is a shitty one.
Speaker 3:Probably a close second to the noise when people eat.
Speaker 2:No, that is horrible. That is a horrible, horrible sound. I cannot stand that. I've actually looked over at people doing that in restaurants.
Speaker 3:Well, it is. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of thinking, like you know. I mean, maybe you would prefer to eat it on the floor out of a dog bowl or something.
Speaker 1:I mean, that would make it happen.
Speaker 2:Would you like a trough?
Speaker 3:That's a good hint, you know. Just take their plate and gently set it on the floor. I thought I would make it easier for you.
Speaker 1:Or just bring it up to their face, Like I'm helping you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh my God. Well, I did look it up in anticipation of our conversation. I did look up like what are some of the most common pet peeves and the ones that I found that are like oh my God. So I'll just run through them really quickly. Micromanagement I think we can all kind of agree, and then it's loud chewing or drinking, being late, interrupting talking during a movie. Hate that. People who walk slow, which I thought was really funny. People who walk slow so staring at someone's phone. I hate that when people are like trying to be over my shoulder. We just talked about this.
Speaker 1:The other day. We just talked about it, yep.
Speaker 3:And then the last one is clipping your nails in public.
Speaker 1:Okay, look, I will not. If you are sitting at your desk clipping your freaking toenails or your fingernail, go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2:I will tell you. I will tell you, I'm not, I'm not when to God.
Speaker 1:Where to God, I will throw a punch if a freaking fingernail touches me. I can't.
Speaker 2:No, that's gross. It's so funny that you said that.
Speaker 1:Long fingernails that are dirty? I know no.
Speaker 3:Cut your freaking fingernails. Thank you Well done. Not a surprise, Kyle.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:It's perfectly manicured fingers Not a surprise.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if you're going to get it. I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. What did you think of? What did you think of Kyle For pet? Let's see that whole, that whole fingernail thing that.
Speaker 3:I was. So I remember that a story wants to come at a time and, literally, like in my work space we were in. This was back when I was in Virginia and I can't. It was some kind of community event in the evening. I don't remember the purpose of it, I don't remember. I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember. I remember school board members from this district were there, right, and I only remember that because, I kid you not Like I don't know, I've been with like 50, 60 people sitting around round tables having all kinds of different conversations. This woman, probably in her I don't know late 60s, early 70s, pulls off her sock Right there, clips her fucking toenails what I just remember looking around like oh, what the hell do you do? Like what could you do? There's literally nothing we could do, did it just?
Speaker 1:dawn on her. Oh my God, I need to clip my toenails At this very fucking moment.
Speaker 2:You know what. You know what would have fixed that. You know what would have fixed that If I would have found that goddamn dog that pissed on my foot and could have pissed on hers.
Speaker 1:I have a shoe for you.
Speaker 3:I'll teach you to take your shoes off. Oh, my God, I just remember, as we were talking, or we were talking about Kind of a that I had repressed that memory effectively.
Speaker 1:And now it's right back there and that thatmers sittingDe해� 빛, right there.
Speaker 3:But I will say the phone thing makes me crazy too. Like is it, and I don't have one of those like screen things that black it out, you know. So people can't see it because I don't care. I said Joe will Facebook, Facebook. I can't remember what I called it, but basically where he'll like hi Jack, hi Jack, right, Because like I'll be like scrolling and he doesn't do Facebook, right, which is totally fine. But he'll be staring at mine and he'll be like who's that, what's that person doing? And I'm like I can look at Facebook. You want my phone? Go look at Facebook.
Speaker 2:Here, here, I would like to welcome you to the World Wide Web. Will you do this as well.
Speaker 3:It is very funny. So those were some of the ones I was like, and almost every single one of them like the being late thing I don't care a lot about. I mean, if it's like you know, if it's a pattern, you're always late.
Speaker 1:though If you're always late, like if somebody's always late like that, that I one, I have to prepare myself for it because they're always late, but it does it's like. It's kind of like a disrespect of my time. You know, like we play in this, we're going whatever, and it's like God dang it, like seriously, like come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:It's one of these things that happens. You know, same thing, like you know in a work environment. Whatever, it is Right. If you're going to be late, just give somebody a heads up at least.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At least call, communicate, say hey especially now. I'm running a little bit behind but like this constant thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:It's just almost like yeah. Well, you know what? Everybody can wait on me, and it's like right, really.
Speaker 1:But there are people with that mentality because, again, seating from my childhood, that was my mom, like she would wait till the very last minute we would be ready to go to school. We'd be waiting lunchbox in hand, like we packed our lunch, we did everything. We came out of bed, I got to go to the bathroom oh, I got to do this now, blah, and we were late every day. So my Devin and I, we went to the same junior high school because we're only 13 months apart. He and I, for my seventh grade and his sixth grade year, spent every lunch and detention because we were late every day, because of my mom.
Speaker 2:And see that's not cool.
Speaker 1:But see, for a long time I was meticulous about my timing and everything else. Now I'm a little bit more relaxed with it. I'm not late, but I'm not so anal, retentive over it and I have to be there right at this time or whatever. But that ruled my life for a very long time. I was just so like I have to be on time because I knew how I felt when people were late for me and I had some consequences.
Speaker 2:But yeah, but you know, I mean that also brings a whole different chapter for another time. But it's like that, because of certain things that have happened in your past, and in your childhood.
Speaker 1:That's why we do things Well. That's what I love about.
Speaker 2:Well, but that's the thing you. There's so many people out there that will just they just kind of throw in the cards, so to speak, cause they're just like well, I grew up really rough, so I'm just going to continue the past.
Speaker 2:It's not my fault, you know, and they use it as a crush and it's like then you have people like yourself. That's like no, I know what I went through and I know I do not want my life to be like this. So, no matter how hard I have to work, no matter all this stuff, I mean like taking care of all the kids by yourself, all this time, not right, without help, without without just doing it with a positive attitude and just like such such a drive for so long to just be like you know what. No, I'm gonna do better, I'm gonna do better. I know I'm gonna do better, I'm gonna do better. And now you're actually coaching people how to do all these things. Oh yeah, like, but that's what I mean. Like you, you took something that was negative and Contorted it and twisted it to make it beneficial for yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and for everybody.
Speaker 2:I mean everybody around you and everybody you know involved in your life. Yeah, for sure, which is super rad.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, unicorn mermaid girl.
Speaker 1:Should I? Should I leap through the air? Should I swim like I don't know? I don't know. There was another one that I thought of, that Shoot it was. It was very particular, I can't think of it right now. But another one is personal space and when you're standing in the line of the grocery store and that Behind you is like breathing on your neck, yeah, I, I get so creeped out by that and and sometimes even know they're just like close talkers or like somebody's close talking to you and you back up and they help, sir, yeah, like whoo. Okay, that's it. That's a major pet peeve for me when it comes to closeness and it's uninvited. You know I have your response.
Speaker 3:Your response is and it's the response that I can't remember what movie I was watching the other day and they said this and I've heard this live before it. It's so funny, you know, like the principles that you know, when you're monitoring, like dances at schools with kids, and you're trying to get on the separate, I would say things like we're not here to make babies, but but another great line. Another great line is I got a leaf space for Jesus, so you just step away from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like there's Jesus or there's no room for Jesus, or something like that.
Speaker 3:Oh, I just need some room for Jesus, like just you know, back it up, back it up, it's some space.
Speaker 2:Or you can make it awkward and turn around and just and go for that like weird, awkward hug.
Speaker 3:That's true. Not make eye contact or just no. I need like go ahead, like if you got to be that close to me, feel free to go right ahead, right. The other kind of like more A timely one in terms of like it's newer because technology is newer is when people are listening or like on a phone or what, and it's the volumes way far up and they don't have headphones in, like they're having a Ford, they're on Conversation and they're on speaker and Everybody's like everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, huge pet peeve. That's a massive pet peeve.
Speaker 3:What the hell I just makes me like again, it's that same idea of like you know, just like your, your kind of Comfort and rights and whatever you want to call it can go as far as your space, but when you're starting to evade my space, that's a whole different ball game. Like, just be respectful of the people around you, you know right? Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker 2:I like to walk up next to a mother on speaker phone or FaceTime, like at Walmart or whatever, and I'll get behind them and be like yo, what's up there, how you been. We're looking there like man, do I know you? And I was like, oh no, I thought this was like a group thing, you know. I Thought we could all hang out and high-fiving shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is where we moved into the solution part of our. Anybody who's wondering now we're solving all the pet peeves, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or giving you new ways to cope.
Speaker 3:You know we're giving frosts to the open mouth eaters Giving awkward hugs to the people who stand you close to us. We're running in on the conversations for the people. I like it. We got a whole little bit strategy yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you. No, you know what, the next time somebody reads over my shoulder when I'm on my phone, I'm just gonna be like well, do you want to answer the 3000 emails? Here you go. Thank you, exactly, okay, let me know when you're done.
Speaker 3:It'll be great, it'll be great. So I you know I knew we were, we were talking about pet peeves and I knew you know that wouldn't necessarily take us an hour and our fireside chat conversations aren't always. But I gotta tell you and I don't want to put Kyle on the spot, but I'm gonna ask this question and you can say I Rather not answer that and then we will do these to hold up so you can't be on our show. But the question is this you mentioned that you clean up crime scene. If we're done with pet peeves for the last like five or ten minutes, I would look like what is like? Like any kind of great. I don't know if stories are right, I don't want to make. What is that like like? And and do you have any like the most like, whether it's the grossest or the most horrific or the whatever like?
Speaker 2:Well, the way, I look at it is it's gonna be way more worse for, like, first responders, like your police, your EMTs, all that, because they're gonna be the ones that are going to, they're trying to save the people and doing all that. I just see the aftermath. So you know they're, they're the ones really out there taking care of it. So you know, and it's one of these things where but I never really know what I'm gonna go into and it's not something I do every day and I just I just won't do anything that involves a very small child. Yeah, um, those kind of jobs, I just and I respect the hell out of the guys that do it, but I just Know that's that's a bit much. But yeah, you'll get. You'll get some. You'll get some strange ways that people either commit suicide or that you know could be a gunfight or bad drug deal or a domestic thing. But yeah, I mean I've, you know not really much.
Speaker 2:There's not really much, I haven't seen yeah, you tell the story. Which one?
Speaker 1:about the guy that Practically chopped his own head off.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I decide with a. What did he commit suicide with?
Speaker 2:okay, he, hey, there's a shed behind his house and and apparently he wanted to do this in a in a pretty rough fashion, and because usually when people commit suicide they're usually doing it as a very bold statement or they're trying to be it very quiet, they're not trying to be messy, they're not trying to give a big fuck you to the world, kind of thing, you know. But yeah, this guy took an electric chainsaw and he held it to the right side of his neck for a while and it didn't go through fast enough. I guess he was bloody. So he turned around and held it on the other side and it got into his jugular. Yeah, it just kept going and going until he just blacked out and bled out all over the floor. But he left a note that said sorry, I had to kill the demons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was. I mean, he was definitely mentally ill, obviously, and stuff like that and I, you know, probably shouldn't have brought up a suicide. But the reason why is that you know, like he had to explain to me, that when you go into a crime scene you know and have to clean it up, anything that has biomatter on it has to be taken out. So he pretty much got this whole shed because of the splatter and everything and how bad it was, and then when he was doing that, you found a dehydrated dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah here's the second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was loud because a buddy of mine, the Colombian guy, was helping me out and anytime we go into jobs he's a very spiritual guy, so he's always like and doing all this stuff before he goes in and everything. And we had already torn down the whole inside the walls and all that stuff and it's down to the framework now. But because of so much of the area the floor was damaged, we had to cut the floor out. So when I cut the floor out I was using a big pry bar and I got the floor, this one big piece of wood out, and I saw that there was like a mummified dog that had been under there for like oh my.
Speaker 2:God knows how many years or whatever. So I cranked it up and I looked and I was like oh shit. And I look over my buddy and I was like what's up? And now, keep in mind, we're wearing full hazmat suits with breathing apparatuses and all that stuff. And I'm like hey man. And he's like what man? And I'm like I think I found a fucking chupacabra man. He was like oh, he's freaking out. And then I was like I'm just kidding man, it's a dog. He was like he looks kind of thirsty and I'm like, yeah, I know, oh, my.
Speaker 2:God. But no, it's just. You have to, you have to make, you have to learn to reroute your brain on a level of. I don't see the differences. I don't have and I don't mean this to sound heartless, but I don't have any emotional connection to these things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's not. These are people that are complete strangers to me, yeah, but I'm still a compassionate human being, of course. So, whether they were a bad person, whether they were a good person, whether whatever it was, whatever happened it's still I'm going to treat it like okay if this person has any family I don't know if they do or not, but I treat them like they all do.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm trying to make it look like absolutely nothing has happened in there ever. Yeah, yeah, even if it's just like okay, hey, this wall is not here anymore, yeah, you're still not going to see any reminence, yeah or anything else, just because it's like if it was me or anybody I know.
Speaker 2:I want someone to have something bad happen. I sure as hell would want somebody to go in there and do the shit correctly. Yeah, because it's already bad enough. They're dealing with something bad anyway, but like that's right. Right, but to see actually what happened, because a lot of the times you have people that are, you know, single person by themselves and all of a sudden they have people flying in, family coming in that didn't know and they just they just been notified by the authorities, like hey you, this person's gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know so.
Speaker 2:I do just. You just look at it as, yeah, man, I'm just. You know, I'm cleaning this up, doing what I got to do for the family, you know yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's really awesome.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of strange things about it.
Speaker 3:I'm sure. I'm sure, and there is, you know, again, it's like you, because and I really appreciate the compassion that you're talking about there and I know we've kind of come down off of our pet peeve like high, so we're kind of, you know, coming down on a more mellow place. But but and the reason I say that is because you know it's easy to think like when something tragic happens, oh I could never live in that house again. Oh I could. But honestly, most people don't have a choice. Most people don't have the means to just like get up and leave because the house has this terrible thing that's happened in it to somebody they really loved or whatever. Right, most people have to stay there. And so to know that there are people like you, you know, behind the scenes, thinking about it in that way, how do I make sure that you know there's nothing visible here that will remind them, right? Yeah, it's really wonderful.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you, I mean I like it but it but I know people that do it every single day of their lives and hard work man. They become a lot of them. It's kind of like the same thing with guys that are in the military for a really long time, or some of the, or someone that's been in prison for a long time, and they become like institutionalized they become, they become different, they become different and some of them just don't really come back. You know what I mean. And they have to compartmentalize.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm sure they have to like compartmentalize you know, just like you said, like the EMTs and the, you know, the cops and all the people who have to, you know, go in and and to me that's way worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to me that's way worse.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now I hear you.
Speaker 2:You know, there's a guy that I know that's. He used to be a paramedic and up in New Jersey and there was a he got called to a job one time and you go out there and there was a lady at the park that had seatbelt, put her seatbelt on and she zip, tied it, tied all this tape around it and all this kind of stuff, so she couldn't get out and she drove her car into the lake and had her windows, but she did it at a park and left her kids on the playground while she did it. Oh my gosh, and drove in there and by the time the paramedics and everybody got there yeah they couldn't save the mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah but you know, it was like that's pretty awful, you know what I mean. Like you just leave your kids at a park and you do this, I mean, but you don't know what's going through the people's head. So it's one of these things where it's like well, there was nothing they could do, they kept going, yeah, yeah, just keep going, well, because it's the whole.
Speaker 3:Like you have to imagine that. That's how much pain she was in, Right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:That's the only solution she saw and as a mom, you know, I can only imagine that for her that's the safest thing she could do for them. Thank God right. We've heard the story of the parent who takes a kid with them, so thank. God she left them there. But the sad and what's so sad about that is that that's just always going to be a part of their story now.
Speaker 3:You know, like that's the like that's now all always a part of their story. So that's a that's a hard thing, and it's hard to imagine being in enough pain to do something like that, Right.
Speaker 2:So Well, and that's the thing, like when I had first started doing this kind of work because you know, we're always raised it like no, no suicide, no this, no this, no this, no this, and all that kind of stuff and then like, the more that I've done this stuff, it's like because I always thought it was the most cowardly thing you could do. You know, and it's just like when I've heard some of these people's stories and some of the stuff, I'm like shit man, like oh, some of these people truly felt like there is absolutely no matter what they did in this world, there is nothing that they still wanted to be part of. They were just they had had enough of it all and it was just like that's really powerful. And I mean, you know, we all know the mind can take you to places that are just absolutely horrific, but the mind can also take you to places that are really beautiful as well. So you have to.
Speaker 2:I guess, the way I look at things, like anytime I'm dealing with anything that's really like stressful to me or anything like that or anything like that I always I try to like you're talking about compartmentalizing, I try to bring it in, to think of things like, okay, my daughter's a healthy, all the people I care about are okay. I got to move over my head.
Speaker 2:All this right, this right, but like I feel like if I don't do that, that's when you start slipping into the darkness and letting it, so you have to keep, no matter what it is, and it's much easier to say when you're not the one in the situation, but it's like we all have things that we try to do, whether it's okay if you feel like you're in a stressful environment or something, what do I need to do to kind of calm me down?
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, and it's more like you know what you know what's for me Amazing.
Speaker 2:I need to take 10 deep breaths, yeah, I need to try to slow down my heart rate, yeah, and I try to, just kind of all right, what else do I need to do? You know, like, but just to try to try to. It's like a constant reroute, you know, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, and it's for me, it's you know, kind of as we're wrapping up here, but it's gratitude, like I don't necessarily write it down every single day, but I take a moment every single day to do what you said about thinking about the things that I have to be grateful for, because you know there's a scientific basis for the impact that just taking a couple of minutes and thinking about the things that you do have that make you grateful.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:The impact it has on you, you know, on the biology right of your body, is huge. So that's for me, I think, the thing. Whether I'm feeling particularly stressed or not. I just try to make it a habit every single day, so that it almost is like getting ahead of being overly stressed or getting ahead of being over it yeah. Yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:It's keeping everything trying to go in that fluid motion.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Just be like you know what Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You know, not at all.
Speaker 2:That's correct. I had a homeless guy tell me one time. He said he said he said, hey man, did you open your eyes today? I said yeah. He said you can hear me talking to you. I said yeah. He said you got a little food in your stomach. You can taste, you smell this beautiful world we live in. I said yeah. And he said when you got out of bed you put one foot in front of the other and I said yeah, and he goes. Well, what's your fucking problem?
Speaker 3:And walked off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was just like, but it was one of those things that I'm like, man, this is coming from a homeless dude, right.
Speaker 3:And for him to have that out and for him, I mean.
Speaker 2:And this dude looked like he'd been there since the fucking earth, cool.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean like leather skin, you know what I mean Just worn from the elements, yeah. But it wasn't saying it ugly like what the fuck's your problem? He said. He lose his smile on his face, as if to say like hey man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, remember, remember, like Jesus.
Speaker 3:I know You're back to. Jesus again, man, back to Jesus again. I got it back around, I know.
Speaker 1:I'll have to loop on Jesus.
Speaker 2:That's right. Oh my God, well done.
Speaker 3:Well done, Well done. You never know right who's gonna have the word.
Speaker 1:We're gonna wrap up, but we really appreciate your time with us tonight, Kyle. This has been really fun, Thank you.
Speaker 3:Kesti, yeah, it's good to it's great to get to know you. And I have a cousin who lives in it's near Atlanta. Hold on, I pulled it up in Flowery Branch. I don't know how far or close that or whatever that is.
Speaker 2:But I shit you not. That's about 10 minutes north of me.
Speaker 3:I gotta introduce you to you. Seriously, you remind me so much of my cousin. It's not even funny. Seriously, I'm actually being dead serious about that. I'll make we'll figure out how to make that introduction, because he's right there, man, and he is such a great person, he has such a great heart, and you clearly do as well, and so you can never have Thank you. You can never have too many of those people in your life, so I'm gonna figure out how we make a connection. Man, that's awesome, yeah that's cool.
Speaker 2:Let's do this.
Speaker 3:All right, you guys.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you Thank you guys, thank you, thank you All right. All right, guys. We're getting a sneak peek of Kyle's shoe collection in his closet. And don't neglect the color coordination of all the clothing and the finger spacing of the hangers.
Speaker 3:That is OCD and it's Beth's. Love it. I fucking love it.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 3:All right, now we know. Now we know. But goodbye Kyle, all right, goodbye Kyle.
Speaker 1:All right now that we're out of Kyle's closet.
Speaker 3:Um, I thought he was gonna come out of the closet while we were on the episode and I was like I'm not ready. This is not the episode that's not what he said.
Speaker 2:No, this is.
Speaker 3:October 11th, october 11th, exactly, exactly, not the right date. No, he was great. He absolutely lived up to what you said, jane. He was a really good dude man. Yeah, he's a really good dude and I love that. These conversations, literally like this episode, is gonna be all about pet peeves and oh, by the way, a little bit of, you know, sad stuff at the end. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jesus. And then I have to go and bring up freaking the one crime scene that was suicide. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I wasn't okay. Disclaimer to all of our fans. That's right. I am very sensitive to death and suicide and everything else. I wanted to explain him, to explain the scene of the extent of what he does. That's right, I know that was crazy.
Speaker 3:It was not meant In his intro. As soon as he said I clean up crimes, he's like oh, we have done it. You're like yes, we're gonna have to talk a little bit about that, but he was really great. All right, you guys, thank you, as always, for spending time with us. Be sure to like, subscribe, follow all the things and share. For fucking God's sake, share, right? Share with your friends. Nobody's gonna know us if you don't share. So, for God's sakes, please share, but are we?
Speaker 3:being obnoxious enough. I feel like we're being obnoxious enough.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that our fans should stop being so greedy with us.
Speaker 3:You know what that's actually right. I can see how they probably wanna hold us close and don't want anybody to know us.
Speaker 1:Rose, you better stop being so greedy and Ha, ha, ha, ha Error.
Speaker 3:Sure, all righty. Anyway, you guys thanks so much. Peace out. All right bye.