Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Election 2024...Let's talk about it.
The stakes are high when it comes to elections, and this short episode is all about unpacking and sharing our voting intentions and the qualities we demand in leaders. Whether it’s the local elections with their direct impact or the broader presidential ones, every vote shapes our future. From Kamala Harris’s integrity to Donald Trump’s controversial legacy, we dive into the importance of informed decision-making beyond party lines. As we reflect on this electoral landscape, we're eager to hear from you—our listeners—about your thoughts and stories, inviting you to engage with us and join the conversation as we look forward to exciting projects on the horizon.
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you're listening to dumpster diving with janice and jane. Jane has wet hair this morning, sorry guys. Um, it's 8 am though so it is 8 am and and, considering all that I have going on right now, mentally, physically, hey I was right, live hey live this morning look at you.
Speaker 2:I was on a roll last night and I was up until midnight getting a couple of things done for work. And it's weird because like, like you know, I'm in the whole menopause cycle. Right, I'm looking at a book that I just got that I want to start reading around menopause but and so I'm realizing like there are cycles. In the last couple of months I've noticed this shift where there are cycles to parts of the month where the brain fog is so heavy it's hard to see anything. But then, like this week, I'm like I'm clear I've got more energy. I'm like what the fuck is that? And I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. That's the thing. And it's like hit or miss, so what? But when I got it, I I grab ahold of it.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, I exactly 10 PM and I feel like wide awake and both. Let me be productive, like let me grab something to work on, cause God knows what tomorrow's going to bring Right. Tomorrow I might be here going like what the fuck.
Speaker 1:I can't even read my email.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean I think I think we all kind of deal with that at this point because we life is so unpredictable and you know, and taking advantage of the time and space that we have, you know, I've definitely been doing that this last week or so just because of things going on in my world. But you know, there's a lot of value to that and and instead of just jumping back into everything and full force, I'm really pacing myself, I'm really being kind to myself, I'm being kind to my physical being, to my mental being, my spirit, like I'm doing things that I've needed for a long time and and I just haven't done it because I haven't had the time and the unpredictability of life and work and all of those things. That's it Nice to have like an open schedule, to kind of like yeah to to do those things and and be kind to myself.
Speaker 2:So you're reminding me, I, um, like I, you know, have a bunch of different newsletters I follow and stuff, and usually I literally delete them every day, Right, like I don't have time to look at them, so I delete. But I happened to click on one today and the P, the guy I follow, and, um, it's because he, um, it was a labeled like mastering time management in 10 minutes a day and I started doing this. I'm not doing it in depth yet, so this inspired me to do it, but essentially what he talked about is like he talks about is like we, you know, we talk about things distracting us, but you can't actually be distracted unless you know what you were trying to do in the first place.
Speaker 2:And all the behaviors that help, all the behaviors that contribute to us wasting time, like going to email a hundred times a day, right, Versus having a dedicated time to eat for email, and so that's one example. But, but what he talks about and I actually started using an app a while back and then I stopped using it and now I'm going to go back to it that does this right when he basically says listen, I take he takes 10 minutes the night before and literally schedules his whole day, so he decides what his from his two lists he's going to do. And that was really important to me because you're, like it resonates so much with me that, like you have this to do this, whether it's personal or professional, right, and you constantly the amount of time you spend just looking at it, right, Trying to decide what to do next, and so like he just fills in the time on his calendar every single second of the whole day and then he doesn't look at his to-do list during the day.
Speaker 2:It's like this is what I'm doing today, no matter what happens, this is what I'm doing. And so, anyway, that was, you know, something I was doing right before we hopped on this morning Cause I read that and I was like, let me go back to this app, cause this app is really cool because it will take all your calendars and take your to-do list and merge them. So, basically, based on how you've prioritized things on your to-do list, it will say okay, you have a 15 minute window here, so you're going to do this and it will put it right into your calendar for you. And I was doing it religiously for a couple of months and then, of course, you know, got it back into my bad habits. So it inspired me to go back, but you and I were talking before we hopped on about, like the crazy way our brains work Right and the anyway.
Speaker 1:So I can't remember what, why I walked into a room, but I can remember exactly where a fucking dog collar is.
Speaker 2:That I put you know somewhere six months ago exactly exactly you are here we are, that's our brains that's our brains and I can remember the same thing, right like somebody in the family can say, hey, where's the blank? And I can be like go to the garage, go to the second shelf, this, right Like you're gonna have to actually move the paper bag.
Speaker 2:There's still, like the funny story that the kids like to tell is the year, probably five years ago now, where I bought, like well, it was longer, because it was when iTunes, gift cards were still a thing I know and, um, bought them for stocking stuffers, couldn't Christmas came, couldn't find them, never found them. I'm sure I threw them away, like you know, like, but so so it's like I can't remember where that stupid freaking collar is, but I can't remember where I put the freaking iTunes gift card that I need right now you know, that's yeah, and brains are crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1:And just to um talk about what, you know that time management stuff, like everybody is so different, you know. And so for, like me, I'm really good at management, despite my ADHD and everything else. Like I'm really good at time management. I'm not usually late to anything. I plan everything out, and that really comes from my childhood when my mom made us late to everything, you know. So, like this thing where I can't be late and I never want to disappoint my kids and all this shit, you know.
Speaker 1:But when it comes to personal time and stuff like that, I can get very distracted. Yeah, but for me and my old school brain and how I work is I have to write it down, I have to write it down. We grew up in the era where we didn't have computers in school. We didn't, and so I learned how to manage my time by writing things down and following that list. So I've become really good at that and I hold myself accountable to that. So, as long as you have something that you can hold yourself accountable to and actually flow, that's all it is. It could be a sticky note chain on your monitor, it could be anything, and it's really about finding out what works best for you, because I do not like apps. Don't help me, you digitalize it. I cannot like. I will ignore it. I will ignore it. The notifications give me anxiety. I shut them off, like I end up blocking it out. So if I have control and that piece of paper that doesn't talk back, I'm good.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'm good and everybody like you said it's so funny, right there's. So that's the key I do and I do love that there's so many people out there that you can follow on social media etc that talk about this kind of stuff because, like you said, the key there is there's literally no one system that will work for everybody.
Speaker 2:Like I, the number of years where I bought, like because I kept trying to convince myself you, if you write it down, that will be better, right by, like the planners you went to the workshop, you learned how to use a calendar. I did not do that. How dare you? I did. My boss sent us all to it they were like yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Like franklin covey came out and everybody was like, ah, it was like the new iphone before iphone, you know. And we're like what do you mean? It's actually dated for us and we just have to fill in the blank. Oh my god, like those things were revolutionary children.
Speaker 2:It, it was revolutionary, revolutionary.
Speaker 1:Covey was a whole thing, but even now.
Speaker 2:Right, there's so many products you can buy where it's like here's the week, here's the problem, and, um, I have thrown them all away. Because what I've realized is I'm the opposite of you. I really I want to be able to pick it up anywhere, and that's where the digital stuff comes in for me, right, like if I am sitting at the dentist office and it's taken a fricking half an hour to get me in and that's kind of crazy. That's probably said something negative about my brain, but I have to be able to like go in and go. Okay, I could do this really quickly, I can do this really quickly, I can. And so, yeah, it's great, it's a sense of security.
Speaker 1:It's, it's a comfort, you know, and and I do the same thing, so I'm not saying that I'm not totally non-digital. Like I use my Google account, I, I cross, pollinate, I do all those things so I can have that at a quick glance, but it's the to do part that that, yeah, I need because I have, like, the extra steps, because what we don't realize is how many steps it takes to get one of those tasks done.
Speaker 2:And if we're not, um, my app gives me a chance to put in all the steps.
Speaker 1:So just with your, that's fine if you're a little writing mine, so anyway, all right business what back to business?
Speaker 2:um, so so those of you who are watching us on YouTube already know this, because of our backgrounds. But today we've got flaming and we changed our icon because we found this one and by I kind of mean background, where it's like a dumpster on fire, and that's who we are. So we're going to talk about the election people, and this is actually probably going to be a pretty brief episode, but you know, for all of our following and it's massive, rose right.
Speaker 1:Massive, massive. She shared it with all of her friends.
Speaker 2:I know Exactly. We felt like it was really important to not sleep on the election conversation, which doesn't mean we're here to try to convince anybody to do anything, but we are going to share our intentions around the election. I feel like it's going to probably be as important as Taylor Swift's. I don't know about you, but I just feel like the world is going to sit up and pay attention to this.
Speaker 1:You know there are a lot of Swifties out there, a lot of them, including you and your and your daughters, and, and, and yeah, and I'm not so much a Swifty, um, you know like I can, I can appreciate her music, um, but you know, if there was a way to pretend to hang up on you right now, I would, because it would be funny, but there's no way to do that without ending our call Turn off your camera and just be like I could taking. I'm taking a mental pause from this.
Speaker 2:I respect Swifties and non Swifties, no, but so so we're going to just weigh in and I know for myself. I want to share at the presidential level who I'm going to vote for and fundamentally why, and then offer a few reminders and even some strategies people can use for the non-presidential election, because, honestly, what we know is that the local elections that we're going to participate in actually have way more of a day-to-day impact on us than the presidential election. And so often, I mean, I'm not going to name names, but I think that you know, I have been guilty of walking up and literally guessing right or just voting by party line, and I actually very much vote for people guessing right or just voting by party line, and I actually very much vote for people, not parties, because I don't feel like we're in a time now where a party dictates the governance.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, so we're going to talk about all those things and the question is, who wants to start? You want to start, you want me to start? You know my edge on it is this you know I've talked about in the past, where, you know, ignorance is bliss. It's not really it's, it's just it's ignorant. But, um, you know, we all have our shit. You know we have our flaming dumpsters and and I've mentioned this before like there's a lot of um, ptsd around media and news and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:With my childhood, just because you know, I had a parent that would hyper focus on all of that stuff and then get into the family dynamic and all of that stuff. So I I really don't watch the news and I really don't watch that kind of stuff because of that. It's very triggering. So I rely on, I rely on other things. You know, I search things, I look them up myself. I search things, I look them up myself. I don't let that stream of media alter my bias and I'll say this Okay, I've known since Trump started running again that I'm not going to vote for him. I didn't vote for him the first time. I'm not going to vote for him this time. Yeah, this man, his integrity is just, he's shown us his integrity. He's shown us all of those things over the last many, many years, decades let's really call a spade a spade. He's been in the spotlight for decades. At this point and I just I don't feel like he's good for our country. He's the views, they're all the things. Yeah, what is is our. You know, man, she's amazing.
Speaker 1:I watched the debate, you know I watched the debate because I wanted to see you know, you know me my coach. Look at the interaction, look at the lines, listen between the lines and that. That. That, uh, the last debate was very telling between the two of them and just the way that donald trump handled himself and kamala harris handled herself. And she was a pro, she was a boss, ass biatch and and just handled herself well, didn't take personal shots, kept it, kept it professional and focused on what the their goal was there. And he was all over the place. He was like a a unmedicated, you know, hyperactive child, you know like, like that's really what. He had too much Mountain Dew and then got up there and was just talking just the, the personal things about her being fast or easy, and oh, I didn't know she was black. Like what does that matter? I know what does that matter, and that's really I mean just based off of his integrity and who he is as a human.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm making my decision. She is superior in all ways when it comes to integrity and the person that she is. She is superior, and I'd rather have somebody that has good integrity and has a superior leadership, value and and views and brings her people along and does all the things, rather than some dictator that wants to step on everybody's head down the way up. I'm sorry she. She actually has the um, the um. You know the integrity for for that job. Yeah, so that's. That's why I'm making my decision. She's a beautiful. You know the integrity for that job. Yeah, so that's why I'm making my decision. She's a beautiful, powerful woman and I want to see what she's going to do. That's who I'm voting for.
Speaker 2:Love it. So we already know I am voting also for Vice President Harris, and for many of the same reasons that you just said right, so you know when I reflected on the first time. And for many of the same reasons that you just said right, so you know when I reflected on the first time Trump ran for president. The reflection is the same here, because the first question I have in my head about a candidate is like their intentions, like why do they want to be president? It is a thankless, horrible job right, hopeless horrible job Right, and I really don't believe that.
Speaker 1:That Donald Trump wants to be president for us. I really don't I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and so, whereas I do believe that Harris really wants the country to be better, right, so, and with that I also don't, I don't believe that any country is, um, is completely free of the risk of some kind of major overturning of their democracy, and I don't, I feel like every country could, could, that could happen in, and I really do believe that Trump wants to be president, to be president not because he is fundamentally committed to making life better for me or anybody like us and, like I said, like it's, that's it spotlight you know, and there's a part of me that's low key and this is this is emotion but that low key worries that if he became president again, that he would want to stay in that job for as long as he could, no matter what that means or what it would take to get him there.
Speaker 2:So intentions are one thing.
Speaker 2:The second thing is that you know, I was somebody who, when Biden was still running, did not worry about the age thing, and the reason I didn't worry about it is because here's what I also believe the president does not run the country by themselves.
Speaker 2:The, you know, one of the critical factors or features of a highly effective president is the people they surround themselves with, and what Trump did in his first presidency was actually did he, of course, put a lot of people who have no experience with anything in roles that they should have never been in, but he also did bring in some people who were experts in their spaces right and his chief staff role, etc. But by the end of it, he not only fired all of those people, he also has spoken very disparagingly of them since then. So I am very concerned about people he'll surround himself with. So, for example, when Biden was running, I was like I'm okay if he, frankly, is losing his mental, cognitive abilities et cetera, because he's going to surround himself with really powerful not powerful, but really smart really people with expertise and they're going to get it done Right.
Speaker 2:I do not believe that's the case with Trump. This time, I really think that Trump, if we are at risk that he will put people in roles who have no experience and have ill intentions and, as a result, when his cognitive whatever continues to go down which we're starting to see that some with him, those will be the people left running things, and that terrifies me.
Speaker 2:Whereas no President or Vice President. Harris is going to surround herself with an expert team she's going to make sure she has. She doesn't have to know everything. She doesn't have to have every policy, because I know she's going to surround herself with people who do know and so that's what a good leader does.
Speaker 1:They're not they're, they don't. Nobody is dependent on that one leader. 100% Trump feels like he can just, you know, get in a bunch of baboons to do some jobs, and then you know it'll be fine, and then he can blame them and fire them. But why are we wasting all of that time and money? Why?
Speaker 2:are we doing all?
Speaker 1:of that shit, like let's do it right from the, from the get you know, and if and I do, oh God, sorry, I was just going to say and if there are issues, you're you're slow to fire, or slow to hire and quick to fire, you know, like that's all there is to it, it's just like a normal job and and all that shows for him is that he's a terrible leader. Who what leader trash talks their whole team after they fire them and they looked bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who does that? No, you take accountability, like, yes, I hired these people, maybe they weren't qualified, but I got another person, blah, blah, blah. No, it's just like, oh, they suck, I'm out, that's a, that's a toxic and terrible leader. You know, leaders are to empower and bring up and and and mentor their team, and that's what, as the president, they should be doing to get those decisions made. But this is more of a dictatorship Do what I say, not what I do, and or do as I say, not as I do. And and make me look good. Yeah, make me look good. Yeah, make me look good.
Speaker 2:I don't care what happens, I don't care how much money we spend, I don't care about any of that stuff, just make me look good and I worry that that's exactly right and I worry that, um, you know, he has he has said a lot of inflammatory things about what he'll do the first day, the first month, the first, and there this I feel like mantra among some of the folks that really follow him hook, line and sinker, and it seems to be either one of two things either yeah, I want him to do all those things Right, which is so scary, or that's just Trump being Trump. He's not gonna. And I'm like one of the things that you can say about him is that he, he, when it comes to the inflammatory stuff, he does what he says he was through, he follows through on that.
Speaker 2:He doesn't follow through on making life better for me or for you or other people like us, but he follows through on that stuff. So if he says it out loud, you have to assume it is going to happen and you have to decide is that okay with you, right, um? And then the biggest part for me is um and I you and I've been talking about this. I need to go find it. Um, you know, I posted a live video on Instagram, um, back when Roe v Wade was overturned, cause I happen to be downtown in DC, I happen to be at this. So I went to the Supreme court and um and I and I basically shared what that means to me personally. Um, and I'm going to find that video and I'm going to repost it.
Speaker 1:It was in 2023, wasn't it? Or 2020?
Speaker 2:I think it's 2022, 2022. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it was the, it was like that April or something, cause something was going on.
Speaker 2:It was in the spring, I thought, and June, I think, is when it was officially overturned, but yes, it was in that window of time. Go back and find it and but so. So for me, another big reason that I'm going to vote for Vice President Harris and, frankly, something that has a lot to do with who I vote for in my local elections and where to get to that next is the reproductive and health rights of women. I feel like this country has taken such a step back in terms of in terms of that conversation, and you know so. When you think about making sure we have the health care access and access to the things that we need, when you think about somebody who's going to champion our safety and our equality so not even just the medical stuff, but just our equality, because we're starting to see just signs, like signals that I think it's easy to ignore that there there is a thought out there, right, that women should be in a certain place, in a certain space, right, and just in general, thinking about making sure that we're taken care of, making sure that we're taken care of. And you know, I'm sure people who are listening to this will probably also saw Michelle Obama's speech last week in Michigan and she, she nailed it Right, like they're literally mic drop. There's nothing else to say that, both for women and for men. And that was what was so powerful, right, how she talked to the men in our lives and said listen, you have to decide. And I thought this was so important.
Speaker 2:We know that there are people who are who have said right, I'm voting for Trump because I'm pissed at how, I'm pissed at where we are with inflation, I'm pissed at where we are with the this and that and the other, and I loved that.
Speaker 2:She said you have to decide that the health and wellness of the women in your lives are more important than your anger. And I really don't believe that whoever is the president over the next four years is going to drastically shift some of those big policy areas. We know that our government is unwieldy and it's like turning a ship, but I do believe and we saw it in the first Trump presidency that they have a lot of influence and they will have a lot of influence over these big things like women's rights and health care. And we've heard they're going to be you know, they're likely going to be at least one, if not a couple, of Supreme Court retirements in the next four years, and I it terrifies me to think of a Supreme Court that has more influence from Trump, and so those are all the reasons that I am going to vote for Vice President Harris. And I don't think she's going to be perfect. I don't think she's going to be perfect because no one is, but I do think she will have our best interest at heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I couldn't agree more. And just to you know, bring it full circle and be realistic about it. What president has been has been elected that has had like a perfect track record right off the bat? They spend the first two years digging out of the holes that the last president dug. That's right.
Speaker 1:Or packing in those holes and recon, like the first two years is recon, and then the second two years is where they can finally get to all the things that they said that they can get to now that they've cleaned up a bunch of stuff, but if anything comes up in between, then they have to focus on that and that's what that's. What we forget as as humans, is that there's more than what they've talked about going on. We have relations with other countries, you know, and we have all of these things and different factors and how we relate to them and everything else, and the prior president fucks stuff up for us. Guess what we have to go recon, you know.
Speaker 1:So there's always crap to talk about the next candidate because they didn't do this or they didn't do that. But what did they do while they were there and what did they fix? And the fact of the matter is is that Trump is so gung ho about changing civil rights in in America and it's scary. It's scary and especially for us women and minorities and and groups that you know, minority groups and stuff like that because their focus is on male, white males, you know, like that's his, his, his thing, and he sees everybody else is lesser than, why would we hire? Why would we? Why would we elect that person, that other people lower than them, just because they look or or who they are?
Speaker 2:yeah, and, and it's just disgusting and it's sad and fuck trump well, and maybe what and what you're making me think about is, um, you know, it's a job interview at its core exactly, and what you just said, jane, really made me think about.
Speaker 2:Like if you, if these were both candidates for a job in your business and you did your diligence right, you interviewed them ie the debate References you checked references, you went on their social media platforms which we know is a regular practice now, especially at C-suite level jobs, to see who they are. If you saw them, what would you? You know them, what would you and you know, what would you do? Like, who would you hire? Would you actually hire this person right to be in a c-suite role, right? And if not, then that might be another reason to think about another way to look at it.
Speaker 1:Would you hire him? Would you want donald trump as your fucking boss? Think about, think about the, the um, the uh. What was the show that he had for a long time? The intern, or the, something like that right. Yeah, I mean, he's a smart business guy, but like he's such a buffoon, you know, and, and he just wants, he just wants to be in the spotlight. That's really what it comes down to I. I mean, everything shows that, and so yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's why I mean honestly, and I've been trying really hard you can even hear from this conversation, right, like I'm trying to really hard to focus on why I'm voting for Vice President Harris no-transcript. We want to create spaces where we can have conversations, not just shut each other down.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's why, like I said, I'm trying really hard to focus on why I'm voting for her versus even give that the time of day.
Speaker 2:Those are other reasons why I'm voting for her.
Speaker 1:You know, just based off of his prior performance. And let's, if you really want to look at it and really bring it down to layman terms, look at it as a job interview. You know, who would you want for your company? What's your goals, what's your, what's your mission? How do you want to feel at the end of it? All of those things? And if you had him as a candidate for a position, would you hire them based off of their performance or prior performance?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I would not hire him based off of his prior performance. Let me just keep it real simple. Kamala Harris I would hire her. She has good energy, she has she's culture for the people, she's you know is is professionally driven and everything else. Yeah, she's the better candidate. Let's be real.
Speaker 2:You know, so, in addition to the big, obviously the big election, we're going to be voting for a lot of local people, right Everything from our local communities to our state level elections, et cetera, and so you and I have chatted about this before. But, you know, one of the things that I've really tried to take responsibility for is doing some research, right, so that I don't just stand at the poll and say, well, they're the Democrats, so I should probably vote for them, because I don't know the difference, right. So I wanted to share really quickly that, if you you know, if you are somebody listening to this who has ever been in that space I've been in before and you're trying to be a better citizen in terms of better understanding. This is a great, a great way to think about using AI, right. So I went into chat TPT the other day because I got my mail-in ballot and I need to fill it out, and I just here's the prompt that I gave. I said I'm thinking about the upcoming US election. I'm looking for guidance on candidates from the local level San Diego state, california and federal elections. I want to select candidates who support a woman's right to choose, who support gun control, who support education and who are attentive to housing issues. Those are some core things that are really important to me.
Speaker 2:Your list could be different, right? Review the candidates from each of the elections and suggest candidates for me to support. So that's exactly what it did, right? So it went in across all the things where I'm going to vote and it gave me based on my fundamental values right, it gave me candidates to consider. I did the same thing for props, because here in California, we always have 27 props that we have to vote for. I usually have no idea what the hell they are. So I did the same thing for props and then just now, while we were chatting, I went back in and said now I want you to share any fact-based that's key research that I should consider about the candidates you've shared that would be paused for voting. In other words, are there any fact-based things happening that I should also consider? Right, like what?
Speaker 1:are they doing? About them yeah, what are they doing besides?
Speaker 2:because I know exactly because we have a local one here who, like she, checks all my boxes for the issues. But I know there's been some news about her in terms of, like, she's sporadic about attending you know key meetings and she, you know what I mean. So I wanted to know some of that too, because I want to balance that, because I don't just want to blindly follow people who believe what I believe but make sure that they're actually doing something of value in the seat that they're in.
Speaker 2:So so I share that with you guys, because you know we have a week until people are going to head to the ballot box and make their decisions. So you still have plenty of time. And if you're like me I'm not if I think it's going to take me hours to go to all the websites or look through the stupid book that we get in the mail, which I think is ridiculous that they still send that then, then you know, then I'm likely going to show up to vote and not be very well informed. So using ChatTPT or another AI platform is a great way to to to kind of step it up for the local game as well kind of step it up for the local game as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I love that, I love that, and and I love that. That. That tip for AI, because you know for I mean anybody whether you're an overthinker or it takes time for you to read through stuff or whatever what a great tool to help you break down the time time management. Oh, look at it. Time management, use AI on everything.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just kidding, but it's, it's so smart to use it that way, and I've, you know, admittedly, have not used AI as much as I probably should and could, but I'm not going to say should as I could and um, it's interesting to me, and so now that I have a little bit of extra time, I'm going to play around with it, because it helps with a lot of stuff. I mean, people that I was working with were using it to write out emails, because they have a hard time putting together a professional email or what's the right thing to say, and they would use it for like instructions and everything else. It was really cool. You know, I'm watching that and and um, and I think it could be a huge tool for me as well, so maybe I'll start using that.
Speaker 2:Well, even just, I mean, like, when you think about the big things you have on your plate in terms of things you're trying to think through, et cetera, using it, cause you can um, when you download it on your phone, you can talk to it, right, so use it as like somebody who, in the moment, has complete expertise because they can it.
Speaker 2:Somebody who in the moment has complete expertise because they can go find information from anywhere and just be able to say out loud like all right, I'm thinking about this, like has this worked for other people it is, oh, my god, you can have a conversation with it oh my god.
Speaker 1:so yeah, I'll, I'll. I'll finish wrap up with this. I watched a reel on instagram the other day where this I think he was Gen Z or something like that it was it was a roommate videotaping his or it was one guy videotaping his roommate on a on a zoom interview. He has chat. They asked the question, it spits out an answer for him and then he's like Hmm, can I think about that for a moment? Click, yeah, so I think that. And it was like amazing. I was like that was a jerk.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love it I love it.
Speaker 1:You know what. For people that can't articulate or know how to describe what they, it's a fucking genius tool, cause it's like now you sound professional, you know all those things. However, here's the other side of it, though. Once you sound professional, you know all those things.
Speaker 2:However, here's the other side of it though, once they get it, once you get the job, you better know what the hell you're doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you better know what the hell you're doing, Cause it's going. They're going to sniff you out.
Speaker 2:You can't use chat GBT for everything at work. So you know it's the balance of, and there's so much and we can this said as a thought partner, as an assistant, to help you frame your own thinking, not to think for you, right? Because that's where it comes through.
Speaker 1:For them. So I think that's kind of shady, but if you're using it as a tool, as an enhancement to what you already do and the skills that you already have, it's amazing. Exactly what a time saver you know and that's what technology is for is to help us be more efficient, and whatever. But yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I was cracking up. I actually saved it. You know, I told you that I save everything, do screenshots and never look at it again. I actually created folders for content and just different, different little funny videos that I see that we could talk about, and that was one of them. I was like fucking genius.
Speaker 2:I love it so so you know what we should commit to doing an episode.
Speaker 1:It's like pick a topic and we'll just do AI answers and we'll just do AI and see if it really taps into what we're like, you know exactly like who we are Exactly. I love it.
Speaker 2:You guys. So, fireside chat election um, you know again, like we said at the beginning, we feel like we, we, it's important for us to weigh in. I do not talk about this with our friends, our family, I'm not going to everybody. Let me tell you why I'm voting for it. Let me tell you why I'm voting for it. Let me tell you why I'm voting for it, and I know that's in large part because everything is so divisive, but we felt like it was important for us to use the platform that we have, regardless of how small it is, to at least say the things out loud, right? So, you know, as always, we want to hear from you dumpster dive JJ at gmailcom, like, share, subscribe, do all the things. And you know we appreciate you guys. Thank you for being a part of our conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and email us, you guys dumpster dive JJ at gmailcom. Bring us your topics, bring, bring all of that stuff, you know we're doing our our Reddit roulette, which we're loving and and I know that you guys are loving too Um and uh, but I'm on the email every day and I'm looking at it and, uh, you're not emailing us, so it's very lonely in our email box.
Speaker 2:That's okay. That's okay, it's going to come back. We have other things brewing for you. Amen Amen.
Speaker 1:All right, all right people. There it is guys. Happy electing Bye.
