Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Dumpster Diving with Janice & Jane Podcast
Episode 49: Spooky Laughs (post-Halloween:) and Life’s Little Victories
What does it mean to truly appreciate the charming chaos of life’s unexpected moments? From the triumphant saga of finally squeezing two cars into our garage after six long years to the ghoulishly funny tales of headless werewolves occupying our Halloween decor, we kick off with personal stories that set the tone for a laughter-filled episode. Amidst the hilarity, we also touch on important health check reminders, sharing how Janice's colonoscopy prep hilariously coincides with Halloween festivities—a timely reminder to prioritize our health amidst life's quirks.
In the midst of these updates, we explore the changing landscape of the job market, where technology and creativity reshape hiring practices. Embrace the art of recognizing your own value, asking for support, and leveraging transferable skills to navigate career transitions. Additionally, find inspiration in strategic time management, as we discuss the paradox of procrastination and the unique strengths of living with ADHD. As we energize towards our milestone 50th episode, we invite you to engage with us, share your questions, and prepare for spooky content that aligns with our celebratory spirit.
And, yes...we recorded this BEFORE Halloween so enjoy the out-of-order humor:)
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you're listening to dumpster diving with janice and jane. What are you talking about today, friend?
Speaker 2:it's been a minute we have, I think, a hodgepodge like. I think we're gonna like catch up a little bit kind of talk about our current week, looking ahead to halloween, the elections on the horizon I know we want to talk about that. Maybe that's the next episode, maybe it gets squeezed in. It just depends on how the conversation goes. How's that sound?
Speaker 1:That sounds good. I like it. I mean, we were going to record the other night and ended up just catching up because it had been so long since you and I had even talked. So here we are still catching up because so many things have happened over the last couple of days, or? The last week and it never, it never ends, it never ends. Janice, nope here to tell you.
Speaker 2:Never, never. It's crazy, crazy on all the fronts. Our biggest accomplishment, accomplishment this weekend six years in our house, since the day we moved in, joe has been desperate to get both cars parked in the garage. Oh my god, zero cars parked in the garage for six years and now they are both there. Celebration yeah celebration.
Speaker 2:I don't care, but it's done and it makes him very happy, although, of course, the moment you know joe well enough to know Next project no, not even Just like oh, it's too tight and the shelves need to be six inches shorter. And I was like babe, we're stopping for a moment and celebrating that both cars are sitting in the garage right now. He's like okay, yeah, okay, we'll celebrate. It's like it is what it is.
Speaker 1:He needs you in his life.
Speaker 2:It'll be tight right, oh my God, and vice versa. But yes, it was so funny. I was like no, no, nope, nope, nope. Time out Nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, that's our big weekend accomplishment. It's very exciting over here and actually the organizer in me is happy because it did require a lot of organization, and so that part of me is very happy. I'm curious.
Speaker 1:Okay, because I know you and joe, I've been to your home many, many times and and I know that you guys have some pretty extravagant halloween um decorations. That's right now is. The only reason why the cars fit in the garage is because all the halloween decorations are out right now that is a very strategic question and the answer is no.
Speaker 2:So my dirty laundry that our listeners don't know. Maybe they do. I can't remember if we talked about this, but we actually used to have a storage area that we paid for for all the holiday decorations yeah, right, I know everything, um, and then last around the holiday time.
Speaker 2:Last year they upped our rates again and we were like this is ridiculous. I could buy all new christmas stuff every year for what we're paying for the storage area. This is really so, I think. January, february, we and by we I mean he. He built an outdoor storage shed on the side of our house. All of our stuff, including halloween, went in there yeah um, but what was in our garage is like uh, you know our whole tall stuff and like yeah right, the two guys.
Speaker 2:So what? What jane is alluding to is our like seven foot tall werewolf and then the like joker thing and whatever. Those actually fit in the storage shed, but I did have to behead the werewolf.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:So when I took him out and I sat in, like our back, like in front of the keep the window that the kitchen looks overlooks the um. Cora about craft herself Cause she came out the counter in the kitchen and saw it was like, and then everybody was like you ripped its head off and I was like it goes back on everybody called down and it's a figurine for god's sakes, like Jesus exactly so they're out front, they're working, they're good, um.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so so it's all and we did like you know. We went through stuff again, we downsized again um one of our kids just got married, so she got her like box of stuff like now it's time for her to decide what she's gonna do with it.
Speaker 2:and yeah, so halloween is up, not as extra. I did like I definitely had to weed out stuff, right, like I couldn't keep all the holiday stuff, so I had to weed stuff out. But you know, it's perfect, it's fine, it's totally fine. Meanwhile, my I'm going to be having major FOMO on Halloween because I realized that I scheduled my colonoscopy for Friday.
Speaker 1:Yes, everybody can't have anything TMI.
Speaker 2:So I literally will be on a clear liquid diet on Friday, on Thursday and our neighbors fashion. I know my smoothie Sorry guys Bone broth, not even a frickin smoothie. But we'll be a bunch of us get into like one neighbor's yard at driveway and we put all of our candy out on one table and we just hang out. So I just said Wednesday I'm going to indulge with all my stuff because Thursday. I'll be. And the nice thing is, after the colonoscopy on Friday I'll be all cleaned out.
Speaker 1:You'll be all cleaned out. You won't even know what happened. Your body won't even absorb it, because I mean everything. The kitchen sink goes right through you.
Speaker 2:Um, during those, yeah exactly so and I will say you know, psa, get, get your routine shit right, like because I got my february of 23, my first one, and they found like a big polyp that had precancerous cells, which is why I have so soon. So I have to know hopefully this one will be fine and then it'll be all good. But, um, but yeah, so get those. Get those like routine exams, people, cause if I had not, god knows where I'd be two, three years from now.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Anywho. So yeah, that's my week coming up, it's super exciting.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Um so yeah yeah, and I know you like typically. I mean it's hard right, like because our kids are you know well, jenny jenny'll go, will she trick-or-treat with friends um?
Speaker 1:you know, she might, she, she has a couple. Uh, she actually has several friends that live around in our area, so it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to get together and go trick-or-treating for a little while, because chase used to do that when she was in high school with her friends.
Speaker 1:So yeah yeah, and, and chase will be around, so she might even take them. You know what I mean. That's what I would prefer, because I really don't want to. Um, so yeah, I'm, I'm over those years, um, she's 14, so, um, so yeah, I'll probably have a little bowl of candy and sit here and, you know, sit on the front driveway and hand out candy for something. Yeah, so, um, but yeah, no, um, geez, it's been a busy week. Um, we'll start with happy news is, um, miss chase is 19 now. Yesterday was her birthday and I'm so excited for her.
Speaker 1:Um, she has this little boyfriend and he is the. He's like, it's so ridiculous because it's like you know your kids so well, yeah, and you know exactly the person that they need and, and you hope for that. This, this is her first boyfriend. He is so perfect for her. It's like he, because I have always known that chase like just her personality and stuff like that. She's gonna need somebody that caters to her. Let's just say how she is. She's a touchy-feely person. Look at me, watch me, mom, mom, mom, you know stuff like that. So she loves the attention and just that's just her personality and he gives that to her and it's and and without being asked, and he's, he's just so, he's such a nice young man and so and he's going to go to business you know he's doing construction business and blah, blah, blah, blah and all this stuff and I was like I told her. I said he seems like the type of kid that would just, or man that would just, take care of you. And she's like, yeah, like he's, he's just so sweet, and you can tell like it reminds me of it, reminds me of your daughter and son-in-law that just got married. Yeah, like their relationship, it just like. I was like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, it's so cute, yeah, it's super sweet. So, anyway, so that was super quick and cute.
Speaker 1:They he took her to universal and did all kinds of fun stuff for her birthday and spoiled her and her friends. Her friends got to go too, and so he was like he was the tag along, he, that's what he was like. Thank you for letting me come along with you on your birthday, you know, and it was sweet. So, um, but um, but yeah. So they came back this morning and I had them. I told her on Friday. I was like he's coming over for brunch on Sunday morning Cause I need to meet this boy you know, and I mean, I know all about it, right anyways.
Speaker 1:So that, so that was this morning or this afternoon, so that was a lot of fun. And, uh, I've been spending a lot of time with jenny. It's been a lot of fun doing little things and, um, I have a lot of free time. Now, you know, there's some shifts in my world and so, um, I'm super excited for our fans, because listeners, because Rose, we're talking.
Speaker 1:Yes, Rose girl, I got you. I am going to be dedicating a little bit more time to our podcast and I actually have funny enough have talked to some of my friends, and I'm have funny enough have talked to some of my friends and I'm starting another podcast, and so I'm going to do that and a couple of different ideas that we're going to do. We're going to play around and see what we can do with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so more to come on that, because it's going to be definitely a little different than this. That, because it's going to be definitely a little different than this, yeah, but it's going to be a little raw, you know, and going to be with my chosen family and the things that we work with and deal with and stuff like that and injustices and vice versa, and stuff like that and injustices, or or and vice versa and stuff like that. So we're going to be hitting some some hard topics where, um, you know, it's a little bit more, a little bit more um, scrappy, you know, and and talk about stuff. But people love that and, um, and you know, and with our podcast, we get a little scrappy, but we also, you know, we have other, we have other sides of us that we have to, you know, maintain and everything else, and so we get a little. We skate the line for sure.
Speaker 1:We do yeah, but this one's going to be a little bit more on the comedy, like a, like a darker comedy, you know, and stuff like that and and so it's going to be fun. So we have a lot of I have a lot of ideas going on with that and I actually have I talked to you about this, I don't know um.
Speaker 2:I finished my outline for my book, did you?
Speaker 1:I did and that is amazing jp.
Speaker 2:Now I gotta love jp man.
Speaker 1:He's a he's my hero. So, yeah, so I um, he's been really pushing me. Like I've known him for four years now. Yeah, and that was one of the first things he told me is, like, girl, you need to write a book. Yeah, it was just like I've been told that a billion times. You know like you need to write a book and I've always wanted to, but I've never written anything like that, like never even attempted.
Speaker 1:Just, you know, I'm more of a doer in the aspect of in the career world, like I just knock everybody's socks off by all the things that I can do and maintain and and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you know it's hard for me to look at that side of me, but it it was crazy because of the you know the things that were going on this week and the shift and everything else. It just gave me a lot of clarity and so I was like here we go, I, I got it. It just came to me. It was 2 am. I woke up and I just like literally just started typing it up. Wow, that's, that's what it was. Like it was, it was, and it's five pages long.
Speaker 2:The inspiration was there.
Speaker 1:It came up. I love it. So, yeah, I have a lot of cool things going on. I have three different meetings this week with different people Nice.
Speaker 1:One thing that I've always been really good at is maintaining my relationships, my networking professionally. And you know, talking about writing is like I started like random, called it like just random thoughts, and I started writing about and this is totally random, obviously, but it's random thought. But as I was like kind of just thinking about what I need to do over the next couple of weeks and stuff like that, it can't it like dawned on me like cause you talk about like applying for jobs and stuff like that and resumes and everything else, and it it dawned on me like not everybody, uh, is, is, is, um, what am I trying to say? We are affected differently by the way the hiring process goes, depending on your experience, you know, and because you know, when you and I first started working there was no internet, right, we had to go and get an application and go and dress up Like we're ready for an interview at McDonald's or wherever right, and we had to have our pen and we had to be all good and we had to have all these things and we and we had to drive or walk or take the bus or whatever, right, and nowadays, because of technology, it's not like that and people like me, who doesn't didn't do the traditional, go to college and get a degree in that stuff gift of gab I sold myself. I'm a salesperson, ah yeah, and we don't even get that opportunity anymore because of the way that it works.
Speaker 1:And so it dawned on me. I'm like, holy shit, there's a lot of people like me, you know. And so that's another thing that I'm thinking about is is really maybe starting a community like that, like, how do we, how do we get past that? Interesting, it's all networking, right, but even within the networking, they're like oh, send your resume and we'll do this and we'll do that, and then you don't even make it that far because they're so regimented on that and we've lost the human connection in hiring and that's why turnover rates are so high and that's why I'm telling you like it's not a conspiracy theory, I'm just it's all clicking together, you know, and it's like, and as these things are coming up, it's so, it's just, it's, it's interesting.
Speaker 2:I've had a lot of a lot on my mind well, and I think there's some things tied in there right now that we're on this tangent, that that you know. I think, like you said, technology has kind of driven us to where we are. Likewise, though, I will say that I do think that part of why things are so rigid, like you said, like you don't even get past a resume because it's like, oh, she's missing this thing or that thing or what have you Is. You know we're in such a fucking religious world.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Like God forbid. Right the second somebody doesn't get the job they want and you know they're constantly looking for a reason and don't get me wrong, sometimes there's really legitimate reasons. But I do think that part of why the hiring process has gotten so narrow is because of that too. Right, like we have to constantly, as companies, be, they have to constantly be protecting themselves. But I think too that you know one of the. I think there's a middle ground, and I think the middle ground is there is we are starting to see a shift in companies that don't necessarily want the standard resume, they want a portfolio, they want a portfolio of what you've done, and I think about you and the world of work and how you can put on display Exactly.
Speaker 1:On LinkedIn and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Kind of a format right, exactly. In a way that and I think it's progressive because it hasn't quite caught on fully yet but it's one of those things where it's like, okay, I'm going to do one better, right, the thing you get is going to be, even if it's like a slide deck, right, that just highlights, and you know whatever.
Speaker 1:But well, and that's exactly what I was thinking is like, you know, you have to get really creative and that's what we're good at, right, the people, the people like me, were really creative and we'll wiggle our way in there. And that's exactly what I thought Like instead of sending a cover letter, you send a one sheet of your accomplishments. Oh there you go. You know like, or services that you provide to other clients and stuff like that. Because, either way, either way, just based off of the work that I do with the coaching and the workshops and empowerment and motivational speaking and stuff like that is, you know, testimonials and all of that.
Speaker 1:Exactly, testimonials especially Yep, exactly, and so what I started doing is, you know, through this and and I'm being very vague on purpose, because I've been talking about it nonstop for a week, so I'm not going to get into details, but there was just a major shift in my world and and it's opening up major opportunities, which I'm excited about. Shit, where was I going with this?
Speaker 2:major. Um, well shit, I don't know. I don't know either. Rose, can you um, we're gonna pause. Can you call us and let us? Know, yeah, rose, help us be really helpful, thank you, thank you but all I can say it is. You know, I love that the excitement, right, like you said, and um, and I think you're right, like the world of work has changed, how we get jobs has changed, all of those things have changed, and so you know kind of, oh yeah, exactly, so thank you Jog it, jog it.
Speaker 1:So, in this, this, in this moment, um, what I've done is is that, you know, I'm the type of person. You're the type of person that a lot of people depend on. We support a lot. We give, give, give, give, give and don't ask for a lot, and, um, and, and you know, lean on each other here and there and, and stuff like that. And, and that's just who we are. And I, you know, lean on each other here and there and stuff like that, and that's just who we are. And I, you know, after all of the events this week and stuff like that, a lot of things came to light and what I realized is how valuable I was to my team team, and I didn't realize that they valued me. That, and mainly because of other things going on in that environment, right, so it's it's been very muddy for a long time, yeah, um, but I realized I have never asked them for anything, so I started asking them for testimonials or yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like wait a minute.
Speaker 2:This is my turn to ask them for something.
Speaker 1:Right. So so I had that thought and I was like, wow, that's, that's it is. Is really those people that give their all, and people know it and and you know, when they leave they're devastated. That's kind of the energy I'm in this this, this last week, and and so it just dawned on me it's like ask them for, because they were doing this outpour of of text messages and I mean I I don't want to post personal text messages, but like there was some really amazing stuff that was said to me and so it dawned on me.
Speaker 1:I was like I need to ask them to put this in a professional way or not. You know it was professional, but you know what, and so so, yeah, so that was one of the ideas. So I'm like, okay, I can get some thought partners in on this. What have you done? What have you done, what? What have you done? And we could help people out there that maybe picked a trade or picked a, picked a you know something else, and they want to change yours. How can they transfer, you know, transfer their their um skills, but then also get that support back. Yeah, we're so terrible at asking for that support, we are horrible at it and so yeah, so that's kind of going to be like a little campaign that I'm on too is like how to? How to fucking ask for that support back yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know like leverage the people you have in your life. And you know, somebody said to me once about it was about something a little bit different, but the similar the message is. This is the message makes perfect sense here too, and that is that you show people value when you ask them for help. Yeah, and we forget that because we're such doers right, we're such doers and we're such caretakers. And I remember when he said that and I just thought to myself oh my gosh, it never occurred to me for a second that people would feel less valued because I wasn't asking them.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's huge, right, I actually had that. Yeah, I had that exact thing happen where and I might have mentioned this before where I couldn't take a compliment you know, even a compliment. So I'm going to try to give you a compliment and you deflect it. And I actually had one of my good friends call me out and I and I swear like these, you have these people put in in front of you for a reason, you know, because they are. It's all those little lessons that you need to learn.
Speaker 1:And that was a big one for me, because I could never accept a compliment and every time I like somebody oh, you did a good job, oh, yeah, it's no big deal, like, but he called me out on it and he's like you know, I'm going to stop giving you compliments. And I was like what you know? And he was like every time I give you a compliment, you you like bat it down and I never realized I did that, and then he goes. It makes me feel like you don't care and I was like I am so sorry, like I had no idea.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't that. I'm sorry I didn't take your compliment. You're like wait a minute you?
Speaker 1:know what I mean. Like I didn't realize how it affected him.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. It's the same idea.
Speaker 1:Never knew, and and so when that happened, um, there was a book that I read right around the same time, and it was called the go giver, and I think I'm swear we've talked about this.
Speaker 2:We've talked about that, yeah.
Speaker 1:And again, that book. It's a sales book, but it's all about being able to. In order to be able to give, you have to be able to receive and it just, you know, like it it hit me and I was reading those messages and I was like hello, so so, yeah, so those are some of the things. I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2:Remind me, I'm going to. I'm going to talk about a podcast that I heard this week, Cause I think you're going to. It's going to be really beneficial. But remind me, how much do you use? Are you using chat GPT at all?
Speaker 2:No not really OK. So I'm going to say it for the people who are like and it ties into this piece about like taking a compliment and just pausing for a moment and reflecting on you as a person, and in a positive way. So I had a colleague, friend of mine, the other day say put the following prompt into chat TBT, because I use it a lot across still very superficially, I'm not nearly using it as well as I could be, but I use it a lot across everything this podcast, my LinkedIn, my work, my right and so. So it gets a full kind of gamut of me. And so the prompt is consider all of our interactions to date.
Speaker 2:What is one thing about me I may not know? And you ask chat, and then, after it gave me the initial one, then I said please be more specific and personal. And then it did a longer, but I'm not going to read the whole thing, but here's really quickly it said one thing that stands out about you, based on our interactions, is your ability to navigate multiple roles with a strong sense of empathy and purpose, whether it's through your work with school leaders, your podcast, your deep engagement with women's empowerment and education. You consistently, like I, was like oh shit. At first. I was like hell, no, I'm not asking, I don't know what the hell it's going to say.
Speaker 2:I don't want to know going to say I don't want to know. But then I was like, oh, it made me stop and just realize how much and you're in the same boat. We do across so many spaces. And then, when I asked it to be specific and be more personal, it gave me actual examples, um, and, and I. It just made me like I said it was a really great reflection point to just say across all these spaces, this is what you're doing and um, interesting, so it so it took all of the information everything I'd ever asked it for.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, all of that, yeah, yeah, like you, have to build that algorithm up. I guess so, but I'm assuming really what it did was took every prompt I've ever asked it Right and and, like at one point I asked it about. But I also wonder if it, like, took into account our podcast itself, like some of the transcripts, because there were some stuff that I was like I don't remember using chat TPT for that, so it I bet you it's across all your algorithm on your what we're researching.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, true what we're building Google, but you know that's freaking awesome because what a great way to find yourself of how awesome you are. And I didn't expect it to be that I don't know.
Speaker 2:Can you tell me again, could you repeat it, but say it differently? So?
Speaker 1:tell me more and say it more personal. Can you throw a little dance in there?
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly, but it reminded me. So I was driving back and forth to a couple of districts this week and I happened to listen to somebody had put me on and I think I've listened to like literally two episodes of to an author podcaster named Cal Newport and I just sent you this episode and it just so happens that his most recent he's an author, he writes lots of books about it actually tags into some of the way you you were just saying about like um, you know kind of like how you navigate life, and his most recent episode was on strategic procrastination and he writes books to help people think about time and how they use time and those kinds of things Um and I. It's the first part was super interesting and it was about that concept of strategic procrastination. I'm not going to go into that right now but after he this kind of new idea. The second half of the podcast is like a, q, a people writing questions. Which bt doves.
Speaker 2:People were waiting um uh, dumpster dive jj at gmailcom just saying rose, um, rose, come on, um. So one of the people wrote in and said um, should I? You know, I'm kind of bored with my job, um. So there were two. One was like I'm kind of bored with my job. So there were two. One was like I'm kind of bored with my job, I'm thinking about getting a doctorate, what do you think? The other was a guy who said listen, I work for university. There are three people on my team. We have 36 projects, open projects right now. How do we manage this, like, how do we? And that's the kind of stuff he does. The answer for both was super similar because basically, I guess in one of his books he really maps out this idea of visioning your life.
Speaker 2:You're familiar with the whole idea, even from different sources. But what he reminded both of them was like you have to. And especially the guy about the doctorate. He's like first off, you should never get an advanced degree unless there's a specific job you want that you will not be able to get without it. Don't just get a degree because you think it'll help, right, which solidified that I'll never get a doctorate. But he basically said to that dude like listen, you have to decide where you want to be.
Speaker 2:What is the life you want? Do you want to step out your front door and sit by a pond and write? Your front door and sit by a pond and write? Do you want to live in a city where you're in a high-powered office and you're constantly moving numbers around? Do you want to work in a Soho kind of loft place where everybody's really casual and you're trying to solve the world's problems? What do you want to do? And then every decision you make should be moving you toward that. So the answer to whether or not I'm going to get a PhD is is it going to serve? Be moving you toward that, right? So the answer to whether or not I'm going to be HD is is it going to serve to get you to that point that you want to be at.
Speaker 2:And if the answer is no, then don't fucking do it Right, like that was. But it really made me come home and and Joe and I chat again about, like you know, we think we're going to in five years, we're going to think about moving to where we might go next, and you know, and it made me just really realize we have some work to do to really vision that and then think about how to get there, like if in Joe's you know fantasy world right now, if he could he would stop working right now and live off Navy retirement and oh he would love that Are you kidding?
Speaker 2:He would love it Right and other stuff Exactly, and I just, I, just maybe I said what it made me, what it made me realize is that we can have any of those things. We can't have all of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know. So you could do that probably in six months or a year, but we wouldn't own Teslas and I'm OK with that. But you have to like your choices. We'd have to make the second dude and then I'll shut up so you can think about it. Um, that with the projects, this was the part that was so good for me and it's going to be so good for you in this moment in time, because he um, he said here's the thing if there are three of you, you can have three open projects at a time. Everything else goes in a queue and when you've got one of these done, you move it over and you let your whole team know and if they want to help you prioritize the queue, that's fine. But you have to stop saying I'm doing this and this and this and this and this because our brains can't, and so that's. That's where the productivity is right, because we're trying to do all the things and it really same thing. It just made me like focus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you know the funniest thing about you know, when we were before we hit record, we were talking about, you know, my recent diagnosis and stuff like that, and I was saying I'm so tired of talking about it right now that's all I'm doing is thinking about it and blah, blah, blah. And it is true, but time management is one of those things with people with ADHD that it's like procrastination, you wait till the last minute, stuff like that. I've been like that my whole life, right, and but I'm really good at it. You know, like that's the thing is, like I've mastered it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you know what? I'm finding out that this shit is my superpower, like you know. It's like all these little things. If I didn't have ADHD, I probably wouldn't do it that way, and I'm realizing that now. So I'm like, I'm in this, like in this fog kind of like, where I feel like I'm in between you know, because now I've just always thought that, you know, I, I work hard, I do this, I do this, I do this, and now I'm finding that those are all side effects of ADHD and I'm like, but those are the things that I'm really good at, like, I'm like right, you're like these are my.
Speaker 2:I'm like those are my superpowers, so like.
Speaker 1:So you're saying what you know, like that's where my head is, you know, because they are like, cause there's a lot of good sides to ADHD too. But here's, the thing is like I never knew I had it, so I never paid attention to the bad sides. Other people would see it here and there, like talking over people and dah, dah, dah, whatever, but it's always just been how I am, you know, and so I, that's just how I am. Yeah, now that I'm finding this stuff out, it's like I'm breaking it down and and and like again, I'm in this fog in between. But, um, it's, it's just trying to figure that all out, and and this month is ADHD awareness month, so you know. But all of that to say, I just remembered what I was going to. So, again, sorry guys, this is going to be like, yeah, I'm, like I'm, I'm in this weird fog right now. So, anyways, um, it's gosh, it's holy crap, girl. No, it's bad, it's bad, it's bad right now. Um, no, god, it's right there at the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 2:This is well and I'm gonna keep talking because it comes back to you, but we were what I. What I was saying is this whole idea of like how we you know his research shows like you can't do all the things at once. Yes, when you think you are. Thank you you're welcome.
Speaker 1:so for years, for years, I've I'm really good at time management in general, and and so I find it fucking hilarious that I'm really good at time management, time management but I'm a procrastinator at the same time. Oh yeah, so I've just gotten really good at it. But in that aspect it's like the uh, I have tools and so I use tools.
Speaker 1:you know and that's all my coaching tools. So I use those with my clients and and the kids and everybody, and um, I do it without using the tool now, at this point, so you just have to train yourself and you get to that point. So there are tools that will help and um, and they, but they help neuro regular people too, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's all yeah, because we all have you know I shouldn't say we all many of us have that tendency and I actually think that, based on what you just said, jane, the first part around strategic procrastination is going to resonate with you, because that's what he's talking about the fact that not all procrastination is bad procrastination and sometimes there are reasons to do it, and so and some of what you're talking about is that's going to really resonate with you.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and the other thing that you said, that was like you know you have to do it like this and blah, blah, blah. And you know like you have to have the right environment to be able to implement those things too. And that's the biggest, that's the biggest disconnect I think in in professional development is is you can go get all the great ideas, you can go do all of that stuff especially if you're in middle management and stuff like that but to implement them you have to bring everybody along for the ride, because one person doesn't like that or doesn't feel like it's going to be effective, it's not going to, you know, it's not going to connect. So that wraparound is so important, you know, with the whole team we're going to.
Speaker 2:It's funny because on the professional side, my, you know, I really same idea. I really have three people on my team here in the West right now and the one I work most closely with. We were processing this piece, you know, because we were both driving toward a district and so we had time and we were talking about how like for us and our role is partnership development and how we're constantly juggling I don't even know how many different groups that we're trying to talk with and move along, et cetera and we actually have some leeway to be able to say, ok, we're going to, we're going to sit down, we're going to map it out and we're going to say who are the, you know, between now and March, who are the five right, and then between, and just test it out a little bit to see if we in fact do see a greater level of productivity because we focus on five or whatever the magic number is going to be, versus trying to focus on 25 at one time.
Speaker 1:Right, it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but even for us right, like thinking about like we have our professional life, we have this podcast, we have our families, we have, like you know how we are as intentional as possible about you know those pieces and, and to your point, we're both pretty good at managing and balancing and all the things, but we have very much like bigger dreams for this podcast that we haven't been able to really chase down, and so I think all of that, the timing is really great, right? I think it's going to really no, it is.
Speaker 1:I think it's perfect timing. It's, you know, it's all the divine, you know. And so with that, it's like tomorrow is my day I'm sitting down, Like I took this week to handle a bunch of stuff and tomorrow is my day to sit down and do my to-do list, Cause I'm the to-do list person, you know. And it's like check, check, check and I feel like I'm accomplishing stuff. So how you're motivated and it's all, it's all of those things Right, but it's. It's just funny how you mentioned that podcast, because that's really what I coach on. So my book's coming guys.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it. Well, and when you said that about the book I don't know, and we're not going to talk about it now because it's premature, but I don't know what angle you're going to take, but I will tell you this I thought of both of us at last night, randomly. We went out with some friends and came back and I was, you know, not quite ready to go to bed and Joe was ready to go and read. So I was looking for a movie and I came across when the Crawdads Sing, and I had read the book several years ago and I knew the movie was out, but I just had never watched it. And it was.
Speaker 2:I watched like the first half last night, the rest this morning, and it was such, it's such a beautiful story. It's based on, you know, I think maybe loosely but I'm not sure on a true story, but essentially what I loved about it the reason I'm bringing it up to you is I loved the structure, because the structure was here's this real present, like time, real time, moment thing happening. But then the movie is like the backstory of how she gets there and, okay, she just has, like she's basically a girl from, like, the age of eight, grew up in the marshes of they don't. They never say what state um by herself, right, um, because her, you know, dad beat this mom, mom abandoned the family. All the older siblings eventually took off and then dad eventually just took off. He, he was a raging alcoholic, et cetera.
Speaker 2:It's and it takes place in like the late sixties. It's really beautiful. It's such a beautiful story. They did a beautiful job on the movie. But it makes me think of our stories in terms of like cause. That's, I think, the thing that people, you know, the thing, one of the things that make people grab onto us is, yes, who we are now and what we do now, right, but the thing that really hooks them is where we came from, right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, I can't wait to see how you're thinking about yours and how you're organizing it and all the fun stuff, because, uh, anyway, so I want to play you in the movie, though, um, I'm just putting that out there.
Speaker 1:So I was going to have Drew Barrymore do it, because we look similar You're watching all the good roles, though Constantly beating me out of roles. I'm so close every time I can play you in the movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. Okay, I'll do that. That'll be easier. I don't even need a script. It would be more fun to play you. But fine, I'll play Barrymore.
Speaker 1:Oh more fun to pay you. But fine, I'll plan. Oh my God, can you imagine that would be hilarious. It would be hilarious, oh yeah. So that's geez. We've had a lot.
Speaker 2:We've had a lot and I feel like I think we kind of knew that this episode would be just about all of that crazy. And I think people, I think there are a lot of spots for people to grab onto right Because of just like the way life churns um. So you know, do we want to take a little spooky moment with halloween? Do we want to say go back and listen to last year and we'll call it done like, what do we want?
Speaker 1:I think, I think that I think this is a good stopping point, because I like, I like, where it went. I like where it went and I like that I like I want to keep the spooky one just spooky. Yeah, me too and we'll have fun with it and then we'll look up a couple reddit spooky stories too and do those. We'll tease you guys with that. But yeah, let's just yeah let's call it.
Speaker 2:So I think, like I said, I think we gave a lot of people a lot or a lot of things for people to kind of grab onto, and I hope that folks will just kind of dig into some of the big ideas that we talked about just happening in our worlds, right?
Speaker 2:So, we are as always you guys know this that one of our focuses, moving forward, is really taking your advice or your questions and providing some expertise around them. We can't do that until you start sending them in, so you know, I logged in daily, y'all daily. I did feel better because I was listening to some other podcaster and he was talking about like I think I want to start taking people's questions and I was like, ok, at least we're not the only ones trying to get people to.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, exactly. But you know what, look, look out for us on social media a little bit more. We're going to do some more recordings and, and you know we might we're going to definitely cross pollinate with us stuff that we do and stuff like that. But have a lot of things in the in the uh in the air fryer right now, y'all and uh in the hopper and I'm excited, janice is excited and um and this is, by the way.
Speaker 2:I just want to go on record that this is I'm checking to make sure I'm correct here. This is episode 47. We said 50, so we are three away, three away, we are going to bust that ceiling people could be like a part of our major 50th episode celebration if oh my god, yes we will bring you on to that recording If you write in a question in time to get it to us to.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yeah, we'll have you random dial into zoom Yep, and we will record it and you can be on and we can all fangirl with each other, cause we're fans of our fans.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Yeah, it's beautiful. I love that. We are fans of our fans. So like listen, subscribe. So like listen, subscribe, do all the things you guys. But dumpster dive JJ at gmailcom is where you're writing in so that we can start to weigh in on and support our listeners even more closely than we have before. Otherwise, thanks for listening. As always, peace out.
Speaker 1:Yeah and happy. I don't know if you want to say happy ADHD awareness month of y'all.
Speaker 2:I love it. All right, guys, be aware we're out here.
