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Come and check out Host Tina Spoletini today on Confidence in Bloom as she chats with the amazing Christa Jones on the Divas That Care Network.
Christa Jones is the Founder of Rose City Professional Organizing.
Her Team of 20 Professional Organizers & Declutter Coaches serve clients across Alberta Canada
They help busy, overwhelmed and discouraged individuals reclaim control of their homes, renew peace in their lives, and restore confidence in themselves.
Since 2019, hundreds of clients across Alberta have experienced the amazing mental and emotional benefits of working with Christa and her Team.
Due to the quick growth and success of Rose City Professional Organizing, utilizing her 20+ years in business and sales experience, Christa decided to step into the realm of Business Coaching.
Since 2022 she has helped numerous entrepreneurs and business owners in various industries launch, grow and scale their own companies.
With INEA Certification in NLP, Hypnotherapy, Emotional Freedom Technique and TIME Technique, Christa takes both her Declutter Coaching and Business Coaching to deeper levels. Utilizing techniques that help her clients work with their subconscious identity, beliefs and programs to create the outcomes and results they desire in their homes, lives and businesses.
Krista Jones, founder of Rose City Professional Organizing, shares how decluttering and organizing transform not just homes but lives and mental wellbeing. Through compassionate coaching and practical systems, Krista and her team help clients make intentional decisions about their possessions while addressing the emotional aspects of letting go.
• Studies show women's cortisol levels increase 70% when entering cluttered spaces
• Professional organizing is about emotional transformation, not just physical tidiness
• Attachments to gifts and inherited items often create the hardest decluttering decisions
• Our society's materialism and ease of purchasing contributes significantly to overwhelming clutter
• Children respond well to professional organizing when coached through their possessions
• Creating personalized organization systems based on individual personality types ensures sustainability
• Decluttering before moving prevents unnecessary packing, expense, and future disorganization
• The decluttering process often reveals deeper emotional patterns and opportunities for growth
• A compassionate, non-judgmental approach helps clients process emotions around their possessions
• Professional organizers handle donations, removing a major barrier to completing decluttering projects
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Speaker 2:Krista Jones is my guest today. Krista Jones is the founder of Rose City Professional Organizing. Her team of 20 professional organizers and declutter coaches serve clients across Alberta, canada. They help busy, overwhelmed and discouraged individuals reclaim control of their homes, renew peace in their lives and restore confidence in themselves. Since 2019, hundreds of clients across Alberta have experienced the amazing mental and emotional benefits of working with Krista and her team. Due to the quick growth and success of Rose City Professional Organizing, utilizing her 20 plus years in business and sales experience, krista decided to step in the realm of business coaching. Since 2022, she has helped numerous entrepreneurs and business owners in various industries launch, grow and scale their own companies companies with inea certification in nlp hypnotherapy, emotional freedom technique and time technique. Krista takes both her declutter coaching and business coaching to deeper levels, utilizing techniques that help her clients work with their subconscious identity, beliefs and programs to create the outcomes and results they desire in their homes, lives and businesses to create the outcomes and results they desire in their homes, lives and businesses.
Speaker 2:Welcome, krista. Thanks for having me, tina. I'm so excited, so I have a passion for organizing. I don't know if I mentioned that to you in our first chat that we had. I love reorganizing my house. I used to help my cousins. Every once in a while I'm like, okay, let me fix that for you. Yeah, I loved it and I. It was, like you know, exhausting, like I remember going home going oh my god, I'm so tired, but I felt so like uplifted. I felt like, you know, I filled my cup right and I used to love doing that in my own home. So I'm wondering, like, what your view is. How does decluttering, organizing your own, like your home and others, how does that empower you and give you the confidence in the other areas of your life?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So it's a good question because a lot of people don't recognize how deep this work actually impacts a person until they do it. And it's really amazing how many times we hear from our clients you changed my life. And they do say this was life transforming. And that's really why, you know, I'm so passionate about this work, because when I started it was initially as a declutter coach.
Speaker 3:I am very organized in my schedule, you know, in my home and stuff, but it was more of the passion these amazing donations to go to charities and people that actually need them and you know can't afford to buy them brand new and then to hear the client that's letting go of that stuff feel like, say, I feel so much lighter.
Speaker 3:You know, mentally and emotionally, even physically, they feel lighter, they feel relief and they are like a different person after even just a six hour session. It it is really empowering to make intentional decisions about what you're going to keep in your life, in your home and in your space and then let go of, because it really does translate to not just the physical items in your space but the emotions attached to those things, right, the memories attached or even just like the guilt or the shame of like, oh, I've been holding on to this, or it's been cluttering up my home, it's been causing me so much stress and now I'm letting go of that and all those emotions can go with it a lot of the time and it's just very, very, um, rewarding and fulfilling work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm actually feeling super excited as you say that, because I remember, you know, like I never kept a lot of. You know I call it junk, but I never really held on to stuff that was unnecessary. But there were things like gifts, right, that I got from, you know, certain uncles and aunts that I just didn't want to part with, not because I didn't I don't know it was. It held something special within me, even though it really wasn't anything special, right, like. But because it came from that aunt or that uncle, I wanted to hold on to it.
Speaker 2:And I remember when I moved and I was like, okay, like I get it, like you're holding on to it because you know this uncle gave it to you. But seriously, do you really like it? You know, are you really going to put it in your new house? And I was like, yeah, no, I need to part with it, right. And I did a little like I don't know, not really like a prayer, but like a little song in my head to sort of give me that opportunity, I don't know, like just to allow me to release it, which was so I, you know I kind of laughed at myself, but as I get to know, like that's kind of a normal thing.
Speaker 3:It's so, so, so common. And it's, it's, it's, you know, a subconscious thing where, emotionally tied to an item, just by looking at it, there's emotions with it. And when it's been given to you from somebody that is special to you, that's even harder, right. And and then, of course, if you've lost that person, there is even deeper, you know, grief attached to it and there is even deeper you know grief attached to it. So it's almost like, oh, if I give away this item, then I'm losing a piece of them or I'm losing them again.
Speaker 3:And so we do deal with that on a regular basis and what you're saying about you know, saying your prayer or saying your thank you to the item, or, you know, even just giving it that verbal consideration and appreciation to then let it go. That's why having a declutter coach is so important, because you can verbalize how you're feeling and what you're thinking and all those things that are running around in your head and your heart, and share that with someone. And, holy man, that's such a relief. Like you, you just that weight's lifted off to say this is important to me, because you don't have to feel like you're justifying it, you're just explaining yeah, this is, this is special to me because it was given to me by someone who's special to me and that's, yeah, it is, and it is.
Speaker 2:I mean I know, like when my grandparents passed away, you know, my mom was like, okay, we should have this because you know it was hers. And I was like, well, yeah, but it's ugly, number one, and it doesn't fit in your house. Number two, right, like you have to make space for it, right. And you know, to this day she's got this table like it's ugly, it's little, but it's ugly and it doesn't fit. But she made a place for it, right. And I'm like you know that when you die, I'm not taking that table, like it shows no sentimental value to me in any way. And she's like, oh, that's fine. I mean, what is she gonna say? Right, but you know, I just wanted her to know that it's not. It doesn't. I mean, it's not, it's a physical item that she once held and I know that you can speak on this, yeah, but, but truthfully, it's not hers anymore, it was just a thing to her, right? I mean, if she was something she cherished and she valued, absolutely, then I can see the value.
Speaker 3:But it's just a table and it can be a slippery slope when you do have the attachment to everything that a person owned just because it was theirs and it's such a great point that you made about considering was this even special to that person? Or did it just serve a utilitarian purpose? Or did they even like it like? We don't actually know? Maybe we don't really know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think it is part of the grieving process. For sure, when we've lost a loved one and we're working through their items and and it is, it is definitely um hard to to let go of those things because it is a piece of them yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I want to. I'm interested to know. Um, what so? A lot of people I mean you, you know better than I do. There's a lot of people that live in decluttered homes, right, or in cluttered homes, sorry. What is the real reason? Like the like. I mean, I know that everyone has their own reason, but what's the real reason? Most people feel that overwhelm in their homes.
Speaker 3:Wow, I wish I could give you one main reason, but yeah, like you said, everybody has their own reason. That's a great question, because when I, when I work with clients there, there are people that say different things, you know so, from from them just being too busy, right, and not having the time or having the energy to tackle it because it is a big project, to say, okay, I'm going to sit down and go through this closet and go through every item here, and so really, our society is very busy and I think that possibly just owning too many possessions is the major reason why we live in a very materialistic society in our country and are in, you know, in North America, and so it is hard to just keep control of the amount of stuff that we have. And when we own less, it allows us to live more. We own less, it allows us to live more, and that's just what we're finding.
Speaker 3:When people declutter, they realize, like, I actually didn't need like 70% of this stuff and I didn't even use it, and so I really do believe that the main reason why in our country, why we are overwhelmed with clutter, is because it's been almost programmed in us to just buy it.
Speaker 3:You know you can afford it, you can have it, you can get it in five minutes on Amazon and they ship it to you the next day Like there's no harm, no foul, but it does affect you mentally and emotionally, and you don't have the time to maintain all of those things and to clean them up and put them away. Really, um, we own too many, too many things, and so I, I. I that's why, when I started as a declutter coach, it really was about letting go of things that you're not needing, using and wanting, because it frees up not only the physical space but your mental and emotional bandwidth, and then the energy. You know it, just you. You're then able to spend your time and energy focusing on your family, yourself. You know the things that you love, uh, to do with the people that you care about, and I think that's where our society does need to get back to basics of like. It's not the things in our life that bring fulfillment, bring happiness. It's the people and the experiences that we have with them.
Speaker 2:So that is so true. Yeah, and I love that you say it that way, because you're right, I mean it's. You can walk into a house that has just four walls and four chairs, right, sit down with three other people and have the best time of your life. Right, because it's not about you know the things that they have, right, sure, I mean, furniture makes the home feel more comfortable. You know, curtains on the windows make the house feel warmer, like, yes, all those things have a bearing, but they're not the most important thing, right?
Speaker 2:If you sit out around a fire, there's no walls around you, right, it's all open space and you can have an incredible visit with the people that matter, have an incredible visit with the people that matter. Right, and that's what it comes down to. So I wonder then, how, how does organizing like if I want to organize my space my way how does that impact my mental and emotional health and I mean obviously not just my own, but you know, in general like, how does that affect? And or, I guess, how does an organized room affect mental and emotional health?
Speaker 3:Yeah, many studies have been done on this and it has been shown that, especially women, when we walk into a cluttered or disorganized environment, our cortisol levels increased by 70%. So you know, whether you realize it or it's subconscious or not, it's when you walk into a space that is cluttered or overwhelmed with things, it's not organized properly, you feel that stress level rise and that's just a natural reaction that most women have. Um, and the studies have shown, the majority of men don't have that increase in cortisol.
Speaker 2:That explains why my boy's rooms are disasters.
Speaker 3:It could. It could for sure. And it's not even a blanket statement, because my Beyonce he's like, he needs it to be tidy, so he's, he's a different, different guy. But I think it's just one thing to really recognize when you're fighting with, you know, um, a male in your household about, like, why can't you put that away and why don't you, you know, put this where it belongs, or why doesn't this bother you? They really, honestly, the studies show that it doesn't bother them.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, you know that does not help my cortisol level. Like I have a son, so I have. I have two sons. One is he's neat, but he's not, you know, as neat as I would like him, but he's still neat. He keeps it neat to his standards.
Speaker 2:But my other son is, oh my God, his room is so messy, right, like you can't. You literally cannot see the carpet in his room. And he says when I complain, he says well, I can't help it if I don't have space to put everything. I'm like in one way, yes, he does have the smallest bedroom in the house, but at the same time, I'm like you can only buy what fits in your space, right. If you don't have the space, you need to stop buying.
Speaker 2:And yes, 80% of that mess is clothes. Right, he does have a ton of clothes, but he wears the same thing every day. Interesting, has a ton of clothes, but he wears the same thing every day. Interesting, right. I'm like you don't even wear these clothes, right? So why do you need them? Why does he like? Why does he need that? You know, we were not. We're not, so we didn't, and I don't know how this works with the general population, but we didn't have stuff, just to have stuff we don't't buy, just to buy, right? I mean, I'm sure there were little things that, yeah, we did, especially when it comes to kitchen stuff, but I think for the most part we were not like that and yet he feels the need to be like that.
Speaker 3:So I'd like you to speak on that, because I think that's a mental it definitely is, and it would be something that would be good for him to speak to a coach, not a family member too. And it would be something that would be good for him to speak to a coach, not a family member too. And that's one thing we noticed with children especially is that, you know, when I or my team members get into their space with them and are able to go through their possessions in a in a very, you know, systematic way and get them talking about stuff, and we ask them the right coaching questions, they do open up and share, like why they bought these things. I mean, whether it's to keep up with their friends, because their friends, you know, say you need to buy this brand, or this is cool and what's in style. Or you know they're at the, they're at the mall with their friends, and so their friends are shopping and they're like well, I should buy something too. Like it's hard to resist this, the sticker. You know, like in the sales, this shops and the stores know how to make you buy. They studied and they do it and they don't feel guilty about it at all. But we have to be aware of like, okay, this is why I'm responding to these sales and whatever that these stores are doing.
Speaker 3:And so having those conversations with children and with teenagers is so important, because you're educating them at a young age so that they can make proper, informed and intentional decisions moving forward. And so he may also just feel like I'm, this is how it's, I'm used to it, right, this is a comfort level, this is, this is just the way that I'm used to, and change is scary, right. And so that's why a lot of people, when they bring us in their spouse, is like I don't want her coming in touch with myself and messing with the way it is, because I'm used to it. And then, when we work with them and we compassionately coach them and we help them do it, they're like oh, my God, I wish we'd called you sooner. Because they realize like, yeah, change is hard and it's scary and the unknown is is really terrifying, but it could be a million times better than what you're dealing with right now and it makes you deal with it right, Like it makes you deal with the heaviness of it right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's the thing too. We all people know there's emotions tied to things. They know they're going to feel things when they have to look at items and make decisions and let go and and some people are really uncomfortable with emotions or really uncomfortable talking about their feelings and and why they own things and who gave it to them. And you know it is. It is a sense of loss sometimes when people let go of possessions. So we have to be very compassionate with that and understand that this is a very deep work and so it has to be done with compassion oh, my goodness, I would think that is I.
Speaker 2:I think that that would be a difficult job. Like I think that you're amazing for taking that on, because it's not like I know for myself and I don't hold on to stuff really right and I have a hard time with it on my own stuff. I can't imagine, like in your shoes, going into someone's home and saying, do you really need to have this?
Speaker 3:Right, it is a sensitive thing and that's why when people ask us like well, why do you charge what you charge? Like aren't you just cleaners? And I have to educate them like no, I'm actually the cheapest therapist you'll ever hire, and that's what a lot of our clients have said Like this was life changing, this was therapy and now I can go deeper and work on more intense things inside of myself because I don't have the distractions of the messy, disorganized house and so I have the time and the energy and also a lot of what we do with them. Working side by side does open up some of those, like you know, conversations and topics of you know who is maybe in your life that you can declutter because is there somebody that's not serving you well at all kinds of conversations, and it changes the relationship between partners, it changes the relationship between children and their parents. I mean, it's just so, so incredible and powerful in in so many areas of life when you work yeah, I, I love it, I, I love this.
Speaker 2:Like I remember back in the would have been late, late 90s, there was a show called neat and it was a Canadian. It was a Canadian show, like it was produced in Canada, and she was so awesome. The tiniest little woman, right, like she was really tiny. But she would go into people's houses and she would do like what you do, right, where she would? You know, she used to just show like mostly just one room at a time, but she would go in and say, you know, you got all this stuff, what, like, what part of it do you really need and what part of it are you willing to give away? And you know she'd have to walk them through stuff like this. And I used to love it.
Speaker 2:I don't know how long it was on it wasn't long because I would have. I'd still be watching it because I love it, right. And then, of course, the ideas of how you know and you know this, you know when you start with a room and it looks like this, and then you show the stages of you know, getting it to the final. Oh my gosh, I was like, oh my god, I love this stuff. Yeah, right, but I couldn't do it for other people. I know that, like I you know I'm I have a thing with bugs and dirt and I know that I do come across that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure you do Right, because, yeah, I mean, we know what, what you know, you have a big pile of mess. You know there's stuff under there that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then that's another thing to to keep in mind too when you're living with clutter, you can't clean properly, right, it can't, you can't tie it, you can't clean, and so it's often collects dust, and then you are breathing that in, and so when our team goes in, we're fully prepared to be moving things around, stirring up the dust, you know, and finding, you know, little hidden treasures that we don't want to find, but it does need to be done so that it can be cleaned properly, and then you can hire a cleaner to come in and do your the monthly clean, because they're not you know, working around all your clutter, and so it does, you know, and if you, I, I know it like, I feel it right when the floor is cleaned off and there's no, like, crap around I would use a better word, of course, but you know, then you know, like you just feel better, it's more relaxing.
Speaker 2:Like you know, my mom used to always say, you know, I can't walk into my kitchen first thing in the morning if there's, if the dishes are not done right, and I can relate with that. I've gotten to the point where you know what my kitchen is not priority right now. Right, and like I need to clear my brain, right, and some people, yeah, they need to clean the kitchen to clear their brain. I don't need that, right, but some people do, right. So I'm not, as you know, as picky with my kitchen as my mom used to be, but I, like you know, I don't. You know dishes are nothing right, like, okay, their last night's dishes, they're there, they're, you know, whatever, but it's not like three weeks worth of dishes, right, right, that would bother me and that's something to consider as well is just how different clients have different needs of of like tidiness and when to deal with it.
Speaker 3:And what we found is that as you let things pile up and you start ignoring them because it is too overwhelmed to even think about pulling things out and dealing with it, cause it just is too much for you, you just tend to add to it. It there's almost like a give up. You know, without even realizing that you're giving up, it's like it's it's. You're subconsciously saying that's too overwhelming, I can't deal with that, and so whatever it's, just keep you know, keep living with it. And that's why, when we walk into homes that are like piled to the ceiling, some people would say, well, how do you live like this and how do you let it get like this? But it is just that subconscious cycle of it's too overwhelming, I can't deal with it. And so it just continues to add up, add up, add up.
Speaker 3:And then we get called in when someone's reached their breaking point, um, or it's become a health and safety issue, and so with a lot of our, our family clients, it's because the mother usually is so overwhelmed with the things in the home and trying to maintain routines and even just do chores, then trying to teach her kids to clean up and get them to do their rooms, she just goes. I can't do this by myself. And so husband is like, okay, well, we'll, we'll, we'll pay for it. You know, it takes some convincing, takes a lot of convincing done.
Speaker 3:Once it's done, they're like, oh my gosh, we should have done this so long ago, right, and you realize it is so much easier with help. Uh, especially when someone who's coming in from an outside perspective is able to work with the family members and there's no like baggage or buttons that are being pushed and it's a bit more of a mediator situation absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can see it, I can, like I can in my own house, like I keep it. You know, I keep it fairly organized and tidy. But yeah, there are things like, sometimes my laundry room because there's three of us using the laundry room, sometimes my laundry room looks like a tornado should be going through there and destroying it. You know, and there are. You know, I have said I wish I could light a fire to it.
Speaker 2:Right, it happens, right, but but you know it and I liked how you had mentioned about how it's overwhelming and you know, then we start to subconsciously just leave it. But one thing that I noticed and I've done with myself is okay, I'm going to set a timer for 10 minutes, I'm going to do what I can do in that 10 minutes, and then I'm going to leave and I do it, and I do the 10 minutes I leave, and then my brain is still thinking, right, it's like okay, how about another 10 minutes? Right, like just 10 minutes, that's all you have to do, and then you can go back to doing whatever. Right, and I find that, you know, it'll take me a day, maybe two days, but I get through it all, right Cause sometimes, like I said, my older son has, I think he washes the clothes just to get them out of his room.
Speaker 3:Yeah Right, I can't do that sometimes, like their clothes aren't even dirty and they're in the laundry basket and I'm like this isn't dirty, I'm not washing this.
Speaker 3:Like this is ridiculous, so I think it's still folded from when you washed them last time. Yeah, yeah, and it's because they don't want to hang it up and I'm like this is just lazy and you're hanging it up. I'm not washing this, this is silly and I think that's you know. Really, getting through to your kids and saying like this makes no sense. Let's work together to get this put away and hung up so that we're not creating more work that's unnecessary, because really they they just are like, well, mom's gonna wash it and then she'll hang exactly, and then I don't have to deal with it until she brings it back.
Speaker 2:So my younger son works smarter, not harder, but that's yeah. My younger son stopped folding clothes. He's like, mom, I don't want my clothes in my dresser. And I'm like, well, I don't know where else you're going to put them. So he started hanging everything. My son hangs his pants, yeah, and I'm like, okay, I mean I've always hung up my pants right when they were smaller. I mean they were so little. I'm like they fit in a drawer, let's put them in the drawer, right, but they don'm like I don't care how you organize your room, just keep it off the floor.
Speaker 3:Exactly, that's where you know, just being aware of different personality types is really helpful. I know Clutterbug. She has like the four organizing types, which is like Ladybug and Butterfly, and you know you have to know yourself and your kids, and so when they are having to do too many steps to finish the task, it just they just don't even start it again. That's the overwhelm, right. And so if it's literally just like the closet door is always open and all you have to do is grab the hanger and throw the pant on it, one person might think, yeah.
Speaker 3:One person might think, well, what's the difference of opening a drawer, folding it and putting it in the drawer? But it's just the way that person's brain, and so whatever is easier for them, the path of less resistance, do that for them and set that system up for them so that they complete the task. And that's where having a professional come in and get to know your, your, your family members and see how they live and then go okay, well, what's going to be easiest for them to maintain? Because not all systems work the same for everyone. But organization is a learned skill and if systems are put in place and then it's taught to be maintained. It can be learned to to be done that way, which is easier with younger children. But when.
Speaker 2:but, like you said, like sometimes you know my system might be too many steps for whoever I'm teaching, yeah, so you have to make it so that at the end you get the same outcome, but easier for them. So I wonder, I mean I can, honestly, I can rack your brain for the next day because I love this stuff, but I mean, obviously I don't want to, I don't want to take too much of your time and our listeners don't want to listen for the whole. They might, I mean.
Speaker 3:I do workshops and the amount of questions that I get in the Q&A. I literally have to do a 40 minute like training and then an hour of Q&A because, oh my gosh, I want to ask so many situational and and and like life questions that I can answer and give them advice, for that's the most beneficial part of the workshop is like here's how you can implement this for your specific situation, because everyone's so unique and, yes, some things apply to everybody, but family members are all different in situations and every house is different, right, I mean, I remember that whatever happens in these four walls stays in these four walls, because nobody else is the same right and that is everything like whatever we do.
Speaker 2:So if somebody wants you to come and help them, right, their house is a mess. What is the first step that they should take?
Speaker 3:So first step is to go to my website, rosecityprofessionalorganizingcom, because we have all of the services on there. It includes a breakdown of what's included in a session or a package. It has base pricing on there. Then you can book your home assessment so that we can virtually be shown through your home. Just walk me around on your mobile phone and I can give you a customized estimate of how long it's going to take, with a number of organizers, to get everything that you want done completed.
Speaker 3:Long it's going to take, with a number of organizers, to get everything that you want done completed. And we will do all of the planning, all of the shopping. We come on site for six hour days, do all of the physical labor, coach you through keeping or letting go, so literally you could just sit in your chair and we bring you a category and we coach you through that and you don't have to move for six hours like we'll do the rest. Rest. We organize it all, put it all away properly. We label it. All our labels are included and then we load up all the donations, haul them off and drop them at donation centers for you.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I love that because that's the hard work. Nobody wants to run around and drop things off here and there, right, so that I love that part. Now I wonder when is a good time to have somebody come in? If you're just starting out, would you suggest? I'm just thinking these young people, if my kids are the disasters that they are, there's got to be other people their age that are the same. And all these kids are moving out into their own homes. Let's just say they have extra money and they want help to their own homes. Let's just say they have extra money and they want help. Is it better for you to help them before they move, right and clean up the crap and the mess that they have before they move, or once they've moved it and into their new home?
Speaker 3:The worst thing you can do is move stuff you don't use. I've moved so many times and every time we've moved, even when I was young, we would go through all of our things and donate whatever we didn't use and whatever we didn't want, so that my mom and dad didn't have to pack it up and put it into the u-haul because we just loaded it and unloaded it all ourselves. So then when we were unpacking in our new room, we it was so easy and quick because we already knew what we packed and we knew exactly what we used, so it was easy to put away. So definitely getting us to come in and do the declutter prior to moving. We help with packing, we help with unpacking a new home setup. That's part of our service options and it's so important to do the decluttering prior to packing.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's overwhelming. So people just chuck everything in boxes. It's such a nightmare. I go into people's homes. They've lived there for five years and they haven't unpacked piles of boxes. They're still in the garage and they've gone out and bought, bought all new stuff because it is easier than going through the boxes and unpacking. Like what a waste of money, but it is, you know, overwhelming.
Speaker 3:So definitely getting us to come in and help you declutter and decide what are you moving to your new space.
Speaker 3:And if you're a parent of children that are struggles, I highly recommend having us come in and work with you first to do a space that's really bothering you whether it's your room, your bathroom, the kitchen you know it's your own space or it's a common area and then we can meet your kids, get a little tour of their space, you know, and they can see like, wow, like mom did all this work in the kitchen, or look at how nice her room looks. I want mine to look like that and it just gives sets an example. Right, and that's the biggest thing, is setting an example for our kids and showing them that, like I want to make this home a comfortable, enjoyable environment for our family and it feels so much better when it's tidy and organized, then they're going to want that for their room. And when we work alongside them and they do it with us, holy man, they're so proud. They're so proud of their spaces. They find it so much easier to tidy and maintain and, um, yeah, they love working up with us and doing the labor.
Speaker 2:So that makes me even more excited because I'm thinking I'm going to do this for my son, because he's planning to move out and I I really don't want him to bring the clutter with him Like I want him to be happy and relaxed. And what's the word Calm?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you have to remember that he's used to living in that environment and used to feeling a certain way and he doesn't really know like what it would feel like or look like to be, have it, to have it different, and so we just have to come in and help him set that up in a way that he feels comfortable and coach him through that. And once way that he feels comfortable and coach him through that, and once he feels it, I mean everybody says I just feel so much better.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Then you just know, when it starts to like, you know, get not so good anymore, you're like, ooh, I feel icky. I got to clean this up, so the fear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, wow. I'm like so, so excited. I'm like so so excited so I want to know how do you okay, so you have um like your NLP, your EFT how do you gently I mean I imagine it has to be gently guide your?
Speaker 3:clients who are emotionally attached to their stuff. Yeah, and, and the great thing is, we work with clients that want to be working with us. They want to be doing the work. They've invested in it financially, they've taken the leap, you know, emotionally they have welcomed us into their home and so a lot of times they are excited. It's a nervous excitement, but they are excited for the change.
Speaker 3:And so we don't find too often that we're, like you know, coming up against a lot of resistance or someone's like well, don't tell me to get rid of that.
Speaker 3:Like people are very open and welcoming and wanting us to coach them and ask the questions.
Speaker 3:Um, so I think it's just a matter of, yeah, making sure that the client is ready to do the work and, with the NLP and and and the hypnotherapy and stuff, that's more of like an added on after service, because a lot of times people are just so focused on like, if I can just deal with the clutter, get the space organized, then I can live my life and be in control, right, so then, as we're doing the physical work, they're realizing all this deeper stuff is coming up, and that's where I want to support them with the subconscious reprogramming and supports. And that transformation can kind of come on the heels of the physical space transformation, because now they have the energy, the bandwidth and they have some evidence that, like I can change my life, I can make intentional decisions, I can like initiate transformation in my home and in my personal self. So then we can add on to that and we can do the coaching, subconscious coaching program after, because yeah, it's, it's definitely.
Speaker 2:But I would think so, like, yeah, and I'm just thinking like if you have a client who is and I don't know exactly what your coaching techniques entail, but I'm thinking if somebody is like overwhelmed and they know, like they know that I'm overwhelmed and I did this to myself, like it's my own self sabotaging and my own, like my own, you know, negative behaviors and thoughts. Yeah, that requires work right at the moment, does it not?
Speaker 3:like it does. I mean, we've had sessions where we've come in to work in a person's home and the first day they're, they're like I just I'm, I'm just need to sit down and cry, so we will just sit on the couch with them and they just let the emotions pour out and they, they just say how they're feeling and they, you know they're expressing every emotion and the tears are coming and we're just there supporting them and like, okay, just deep breaths and let it all out. It's okay to feel this way. This is a part of the process. You know, this emotional work is all part of the physical space transformation and we support them in that moment. It would be helpful, yes, for some clients to be like, okay, well, let's work through tapping and do some tapping. Or, you know, would you, you know, like to do some? You know like I could do that. But the reality of the situation is that most people just want the girls to come in and physically do it. Take the stuff.
Speaker 3:Like, like I have had clients that have said I know that I'm self-sabotaging, I know I'm a procrastinator, I know I buy too much, I know I can put this away.
Speaker 3:I used to be organized and then I had kids, you know. So, on these assessments, I'm getting all of this information from our clients and recognizing where they could be supported with the subconscious work. But their initial concern when they reach out to us is physically take half of my crap to donation center and organize the rest so that I can feel like I'm in control of my life and my home, um and so once that's done then then I feel that they've kind of checked the box on that physical. Just do it right. Because our, our conscious mind is very action, physical, what I can see, hear and touch orientated and it's really hard to get into the deeper stuff and to go into the emotional side of things when you're distracted right and you know the authority of the population doesn't have self-awareness to say, oh, I can ignore this clutter and work on my internal baggage first, like it's usually the other way around, right, right.
Speaker 2:So it makes me wonder. And I remember helping my mom and dad downsize. My mom was willing to get rid of all of it. She was like, just get rid of it. I haven't used it in years, take like, just get rid of it. I haven't used it in years, take it, get rid of it.
Speaker 2:We filled up boxes like, oh my gosh, they had so much stuff, krista, I cannot explain it to you. And I was angry when I saw all this stuff. It made me angry. What do you hold on to this stuff for right? My dad would go through the boxes and say, well, no, don't get rid of that, don't get rid of that.
Speaker 2:And then we did end up getting rid of two or three things of his that you, you know he didn't want us to get rid of. And when he moved into his new place and he realized it, he was mad and I was like, well, okay, fine, I made a mistake. I'm sorry that was. You know that was on me. I took the blame. I wasn't going to let my mom get in trouble for that.
Speaker 2:But I said to him when was the last time you really used that stuff him? When was the last time you really used that stuff. That's why we got rid of it, like he was so angry and I don't know if that's a man thing, like if men are harder to deal with in these kind of situations because, like you said, women just want you to come in, get rid of their stuff, give them their control back. What about the men? Like I mean, I know, like most it's mostly women that are in charge of the house, from what I know. Right, but there, but there are men that hold onto stuff and I and I remember thinking, why is he?
Speaker 2:getting so upset.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, it's very interesting. I've had a few of our male clients that have hired us and they're like, well, I just want to get rid of everything. I just want to get rid of everything. But then, as soon as you move into his garage, oh, his tune, yeah. So I'm interviewing a husband and wife on a zoom call assessment and and I'm like, well, how much of this possession, how much percentage wise of the possessions, are you thinking will be donate? And the husband goes all of it and she's like, well, no, maybe like 40%. And then I say, well, okay. And then can you show me the garage and she's like, well, no, maybe like 40 percent. And then I say, well, okay. And then can you show me the garage and he's like, oh, no, no, we're not touching the garage.
Speaker 3:So this is where I see, you know, when you have a perspective or a bias and this comes down to the subconscious and you know programming and everything that we've interpreted from life when you have possessions that are not as important to you in a space that maybe isn't your domain, you give less Fs, right, and it's easier to let go, but when you walk into your domain, that is like your stuff, you've purchased those tools and you got your organized chaos and you quotation marks, know where everything is. It's like don't touch my stuff. So that perspective and that bias shifts as soon as we walk into a different space or a different environment, and so I need to try to help them understand each other's point of view. I'm a marriage counselor. Like I'll say it straight up, it's happened many times on sessions and even just on assessments. Like you guys hear what each other is saying, right, you're saying the exact same thing about each other's spaces.
Speaker 3:She's like well, get rid of it, I don't know why you need all those tools. And he's like well, I don't know where you have all these kitchen gadgets, and blah, blah, blah, like you know. So I'm like listen to what you're saying. It's literally the same thing about each other's spaces. So this is why we can't just walk in and like donate somebody's stuff without asking them to go through it all. And we do literally go through one item time per.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I will tell you this right now, as soon as he lets me touch the garage and organize all his tools in a way that he can see them in bins and there's labels and everything is categorized and the drawers are all laid out and the drawers are labeled, and he's just like holy crap, and it's, there's no, there, there's no, you were right, but there is. That like this is awesome, you know. So it does take time, but I'll tell you right now, and majority of the time we work on the entire house before we touch the garage, and he sees the transformation in the home and in his wife, in her, just her peace and her calm and her control and her attitude and the way she talks to the kids and the way she's handling herself and everything that's coming at her, and then he's like, okay, well, maybe we could do the garage now.
Speaker 2:You know it's funny that you say that, because I think every man in my life is like that. You know it's funny that you say that because I think every man in my life is like that Like, go ahead, get rid of your stuff, Go ahead Like we don't need it, but don't touch my stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I mean if, if you know someone was like if my fiance was to come into my closet and be like, oh, I brought you know somebody in to help you go through all your clothes and get rid of all your shoes, I'm like don't touch my shoes. Like honestly, tina, I am not a big clothes and shoes and purse person, but I have my like wall of shoes and I don't wear probably 90% of them. But if he was to bring somebody in and be like you need to get rid of these shoes now, I'd be like so it's the same thing with their tools and sentimental stuff or their random like boards and like hardware and screws and nails that I'm like this is covered in dust. Why? Well, just in case I might need it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like what? What would you need it for right? But I can relate. I have a jewelry box. I actually had my husband build me a jewelry box because I couldn't find one big enough yeah, it's like higher than like it comes to my shoulders, it's drawers and you know like it's beautiful and I still don't have enough room, right.
Speaker 3:Like you know. And then he would be like I need a custom toolbox, I don't have enough space. We can relate to each other, it's just in a different context.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, if you have the space and you can keep up with the organization and the neatness of it, then there's no like. Nobody's going to tell you you can't have that. But if you're going to have it and you're going to have piles of stuff because you don't have anywhere to put it, that's where the problem comes right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when it, as soon as it starts to stress you out and cause you to feel anxiety, or you can't sleep, or you feel so overwhelmed that you're feeling out of control and you're starting to affect your mental health and your relationship and interactions with your kids, that's when you have to say, okay, this is a problem and it was a problem earlier. You just, you know it's, there's a tipping point, it gets to, and so that's where we try to mitigate that and just say, you know, set a declutter schedule on your calendar every month to just do a space and make it very specific for 30 minutes, I'm doing the bedroom, I'm doing this bathroom, I, you know, just have a calendar laid out for the year and know which space you're doing. And if you do that every month, one small space, you know, for half an hour, it's really that is so important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember. So I had, I had broken my leg a while back. Well, like this is 10 years ago, and I um had a cleaning lady come in to clean the house because I didn't like it not cleaned right and I couldn't do it. But the day before I would have to go through the entire house and I would have to declutter because the kids would leave their stuff here and I was guilty of it too. But I would put everything away right, and the kids would leave their stuff here, and I was guilty of it too, but I would put everything away Right, and the kids would get mad at me. Mom, would you hire a cleaning lady? For if you're going to do the cleaning for her, I'm like I'm not cleaning. So I wonder if that's what. When people say, are you a cleaner before the cleaner comes, is that what that is? Cause I consider that cleaning.
Speaker 3:Whenever I see someone commenting on Facebook marketplace, I need a cleaner. Can you recommend a good cleaner? I always comment on there. I say hire our professional organizing and declutter coaching team first, because your cleaner is not there to pick up all your toys, organize them all nicely back in their bins and hang up all your clothes. I mean, unless you've specified with her in the contract that that's part of her role.
Speaker 3:She's there to mop the floors, scrub the toilets, clean down the counters, like do the walls, like the things that are underneath all the clutter. That's her job. She's there to clean. She's not there to pick up the clutter and organize. So when you have us, come in, declutter and remove all of that stuff that's unnecessarily in your home and then organize it and have it where she can easily be like oh yeah, I know where Tina keeps all the books, or oh, I know where the boys put all their clothes, and at least she can just like kind of put it there, but like, make the bed and then they'll throw all the crap that's on your floor onto the bed so that they can vacuum the floor.
Speaker 2:That's what I used to do to my kids. Yeah, so you know I'd be like, hey, today's cleaning day, so you might want to make sure everything is tidied up. So when I would change the beds, once I made the bed, all the crap that was around they went on. It all went on top of the bed because I'm like I'm not here to, I'm not cleaning up your mess no, and there's a difference between, like, decluttering and organizing, and putting away versus cleaning thank you.
Speaker 3:So it's not me, I am not crazy you're not crazy and a lot of people confuse or put the two together. I tell people all the time don't try to make decluttering and donating decisions while you're in cleaning mode, like don't they're two separate things, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh we'll vacuum the carpet in the closet and we'll wipe down shelves before we put items back and organize them, but that means you have to pull everything out of the space in order to get in there and clean it properly. So I mean, yeah, we are kind of a nice two-in-one in that way, because we pull everything out and make a giant mess in the other room, and then you can vacuum and wipe down your shelves and dust the cobwebs, and then we're finished categorizing and donating and then we organize and put all the way in a nice clean space.
Speaker 2:So I love that I'm getting like so excited right now because that's how I clean up my closet right. I take everything out and then I clean it Like I vacuum, I wash it everything and then I put it back, and I only put back what I want to keep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you're doing the two in one and that's pretty amazing that you're able to do all of that. I mean, a lot of people can't handle that they're.
Speaker 2:They're overwhelmed with just the thought of even pulling everything out. Yeah, but I don't have a lot of stuff Like I.
Speaker 3:Get rid of it If you have a minimalistic approach and you've already decluttered and do it on a regular basis, then that's pretty simple. You you've also kind of trained your brain and maybe you're, you know, have learned that skill in the past or you're more naturally organized. But for people who struggle with that or get distracted or have ADHD or have to be done two separate ways.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they need that block set, block of six hours with the coach to keep them on foot, on track and ask them the right questions and make sure they don't get emotionally overwhelmed. I mean, sometimes people just it's almost impossible for them to do it on their own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it and I, I. When I see your pictures on on Instagram, I'm like oh my God, I love it. I get excited when I see the before and then the after, and sometimes you do put the you know the stages in between.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh, oh, it just gets me so excited. I'm like there's something wrong with me. No, no, it's so good, I love it. And a lot of times it's important to remember that, yeah, there is an in-between right, because organizing companies usually just post the before and after, and there is so much that goes into the in-between, you're pulling everything out, making a bigger mess, and then you're sorting it all into those micro categories before the client can even sit down with you and go through each item. And that's, that's a massive, massively overwhelming part of it. And we call it completion constraint, because you, you get halfway through the process and then you're just like, oh my God, I ran out of time. Or oh my God, my kid's calling needs to be picked up from school, or oh my God, I'm so overwhelmed. And then you just throw up, throw it all back in the closet, and your completion is just not complete.
Speaker 2:I've been there many times and it's hard to get back into it Right, like it's hard to get that mind space back. Oh, yeah, wow.
Speaker 3:Almost feel defeated, because you're like, oh, I couldn't do it, I'm kind of a failure or whatever, even though it wasn't your fault. There's a lot of stories that we tell ourselves about.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's I was just going to say, we tell ourselves a lot of garbage to make ourselves, you know, be okay with what is going, was really going on, right. So I think having someone like you and your team coming in and saying, do you really need this? I'm sure that's a question that you ask all the time. Right, and where are you going to use this the most? Right, because, if I mean, we might still, yeah, I'm going to use it. Okay, when? Right, I mean that's yeah, when we all have those things right, we all go through that to some degree at some point in our life. Yeah, so tell me I know we kind of went a little bit longer than I had expected, but tell me, if somebody wants to come or have their house decluttered and organized, what is the?
Speaker 3:one thing that you would say, like as advice Um, don't be afraid to, um, be honest with the organizer. Like we are there to allow you to process through the emotions of it and we're not there to force you to get rid of things you want to keep at all. We'll happily organize everything you own by all the storage you need for it. Get you a storage unit whatever you want, you're in control, it's your choice. We are just there to help facilitate that transformation with you.
Speaker 3:It's not done for you, it's done with you, because then you learn the skill, you learn the coaching questions ask yourself. You get to be a part of the transformation and have that pride and empowerment that you did this with us. We couldn't have done it without you. We want you to tell us what is keep and what is donate. We can't do that part without you, and so you are a critical piece. But we will help you with all the rest of the decisions and all the rest of the physical side of it and coaching you through emotionally processing it, because that's a massive component and we would love to help like don't ever feel afraid to just even reach out and ask some questions oh, I love that, I love that and um, oh, I just.
Speaker 2:It totally just split my brain. I was like I had something to add to that, but yeah, okay asking for help is the hardest part.
Speaker 3:And then, once you ask for help, even just showing us around your space and booking a date with us, our clients, clients say I just feel so much relief even just knowing you're coming.
Speaker 2:I believe that. I do believe that because you know, like now, mentally, you know that this is going to come to an end whatever, this is yeah, and I love that, but I do have to say sometimes I wish that I could have, like you know, a cleaning lady right Good. I got someone to do it for me. I'm going out for coffee, yeah.
Speaker 3:And once we have been times where we've organized without our clients there for sure.
Speaker 3:But, um, you know, sometimes that is with people who are more minimalist, right, and they've already said, oh no, no, everything is keep. I decluttered six months ago and before I moved and now I just need you to organize and set up my new home and so. But then sometimes we'll find multiples of something and we'll just kind of send them a picture and be like, hey, do you need all of these? And then they'll reply back, be like, oh, no, just the two on the left. And so I was like, okay, oh good, you can go out for coffee or you can be working, and we really only need you for part of the process. So we do a lot of peter out after that and they've got lives before and after that. We like to give them time for um, so, yeah, but we can get up to five organizers on site in a day. If you've got multiple family members that we're working with, we can have organizers working with different family members and working in different spaces.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I love it. You all, I'll tell you I'm and I'm like I'm like kind of motivated to, like you know, I actually want to go rip out my son's room right now and take everything out. I'm not going to cause. I've done that once and it'll never happen again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at a certain age you have to do it with them. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's an adult, so he's more than capable of of doing it on his own. But but I love, I just love the idea of having the help right, like because it's it's an overwhelming job. So I love that you're doing what you're doing and I really hope that you know, with your new coaching techniques that you have, that you can help even more people that struggle with this, because it's not easy.
Speaker 3:No, it's not. And the subconscious part of it and the emotional part of it, all those programs, the way we were raised, the way our parents gave us examples, things that were like, well, I'm never going to be like that. Or you know, someone threw it. My mom threw out a bunch of my stuff. Now I'm like, oh, you know, on the hoarding scale it's all real and all of that stuff can be addressed with the subconscious, coaching and reprogramming.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely Well. Thank you so much for joining me today, krista, I know that I can talk your ear off because I mean, I have millions of questions right and ideas and, like I know, you have ideas for me. So I'm not going to go there because I want I want our listeners to reach out to you if they're you know, if they're the least bit interested, even if it's just to you know how can you help me or what kind of ideas I'm sure you're willing to do that with them. Um, there's my blog on my website.
Speaker 3:Go to the website, read the blogs. Uh, sign up for my monthly e-newsletter. I send a lot of tips and tricks and resources. Um, there's lots of information there and I have a diy workbook for like 15 bucks. You can get the entire process step by step to follow that our team does in the home, along with coaching, questions and, you know, suggestions for donations.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:You can try to DIY it with the steps and the workbook and then if you find, oh no, I just really want you to come in and help me. Then you can take it to the next level.
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