Episode 53| Can’t Glow w/o a Hallelujah

Hey! Hi! It’s me MommaQueue. I welcome you to Moments in Queue. 

In Queue Today: Hi Why > Black Business > Who do Hoodoo > and Are you Kinky or Knot

Yeah I been drinking. My Boo Thang Wi-Fi is acting up too. Geez. But as promised before the deadline an episode. It,s all about Black business women from Memphis. I talk about praising Gloria Hallelujah for her affirming mantras and while I will keep bumping her stuff tomorrow. I mention a local Black business woman who is inspirational cause I too look up my genealogy, garden and write. Lastly talking about being a rigger and a rope bunny. Re read the former word again, before you look at me crazy. It ain’t no hard r. Happy Women’s History month or Part II of Black History month for the women. Be Blessed! Yeah Glo!

Black Business:
 https://www.insearchofourgarden.com/

Hoodoo:
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/baltimore-pastor-nationally-recognized-after-using-glorilla-lyrics-during-sermon

Kinky or Knot:
Midori

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:30

ML, double M-A-Q, double U-E, double U-E, that's my name. Mama Q ML, double M-A-Q, double U-E, double U-E, that's my name. Mama Q, say it faster. Slow don't really matter, though the U-E gets them in the tongue.

Speaker 1: 0:53

Tizzy yo head, kind of dizzy Bro. Who was she? Mama Q? Mama gave birth little ways, no girth, several years ago.

Speaker 1: 1:01

No, I don't want moe Q is a lie and I tried to align this double untoned. Your petty high is one of my mantras. Mama Q, I'm the first one in and the first one out. Memphis, Tend to Key is my word about. Don't complain, man saying stick to one topic. I reply your mind is very myopic with mama Q, you need better opts. Picking and choosing, copy me. Are you uninspired? Um, definitely no need to whisper gracefully, I like it better off key. Now let's see. Um, do you remember me? In more double in. Make you double you e, double you e, that's my name. Mama Q in more double in. Make you double you e, double you e, that's my name. Mama Q. Hey, hi, it's me. Mama Q.

Speaker 1: 1:59

I welcome you to moments in Q and Q today. Hi, why black business? Who do, who do? And are you kinky or not? Hi, why I give you the green of the day and I'm explaining the why of this episode.

Speaker 1: 2:15

Happy women's history month. I feel like this is part two of black history month, but strictly for the ladies, strictly for the ladies, and we'll have a black lady talking about black businesses. I will talk about affirmations, mantras, hip-hop and possibly attacks and who do. We'll see how I feel and get kinky with me as I talk about being roped into things. Black business I highlight a black business to bring awareness and my experience with said business. Unless I say it isn't a paid ad. I'm open to pay that's, but I definitely want to highlight black business. There's enough money for all of us to get it. Last month, during black history month, choose 901 sent out a list of local black people doing their thing in Memphis 10.

Speaker 1: 3:06

The key I came across, andrea Fanece. Hopefully I said her name correctly. I'll read her about me in a minute. Let me tell you what about her that intrigued me first. I her IG in search of our garden. Based off the name alone reminded me of the Netflix movie and our mother's garden. As a gardener, I was like yay, another black gardener, I love to see it. And reminded me I need to start getting my garden ready for spring, because you know it's March, the iPhone March is almost here, the spring equinox, all that stuff. You got to stay ready so you won't have to get ready anyway.

Speaker 1: 3:43

Then I read more and saw she was into genealogy, which again is my bag. I have been combing documents via ancestry for years, even before ancestry began, a thing. I always wanted to know who I was and where I came from, outside of the US. Lastly, like me, andrea is a writer, so I feel like, yay, I'm not the only one that encompasses creativity yearning to find one's roots whilst simultaneously building roots in the garden. Let me get into the about me so I can accurately describe and celebrate Andrea. Alright, so here is her about me off the website in search of our garden, in search of ways to be more naturally and culturally redefined.

Speaker 1: 4:29

In search of our garden was created to be a digital space to share how women like our founder, andrea finesse, embraced a simple and harmonious lifestyle. In search of our garden was birthed during a very self-reflective growth journey to discover the woman I have always dreamed of becoming. I knew there was a need to redefine modern living, but also root myself in the traditions of the woman before me and their ways. Those waves gave life and a new meaning to what it means to live creatively and well. The women I speak of, like my mother, grandmother and great grandmothers, inspired me to be creative and resourceful and use things like flowers and herbs to enhance my health and beauty. As an involved woman, I have crafted their ways into a lifestyle that will inspire other women who look like me to reconnect and restore to the continual search of our own garden.

Speaker 1: 5:24

The mission and our way at in search of our garden. We are dedicated to preserving and documenting their traditions, experiences and the ways of women before us, especially black women. Our our covial practice aims to recognize and uplift the voices of black women through and through and compassionate documentation of their creativity and wisdom. Our founder, andrea finesse, is committed to building a collection that accurately represents the ways in which black women have influenced society and culture over time redentive, inspiring, informative. The mission of in search of our garden is to offer advice and resources that readers can use to enrich their daily lives, create a legacy of their own under a. Finesse and other storytellers will lend their unique voices and perspectives to in search of our garden. Y'all can read the rest on your own and, as always, the information will be in the show notes.

Speaker 1: 6:25

Pudu, hudu. I get to the root of Hudu. Conjure up thoughts that pop into my mind about spirituality. Come on, get this work Alright. So Tuesday, march 5th, a Baltimore, maryland pastor or you know what he might not be a pastor Reverend Malitch EM Thomas, delivered a sermon to his congregation at the Payne Memorial AME Church and continuously cited Glow's influence throughout, calling the Memphis rapper a gospel artist.

Speaker 1: 6:57

Alright, I know that this is not my ASMR, but this is Women's History Month. Yeah, glow is from Memphis, tennessee. Alright, so let me talk about this. Alright, so I saw it on another social media site where it was saying some things about. You know, glorilla is really an artistic person and it makes sense how anointed she is because her first name is Gloria, hallelujah and stuff, and of course, her last name is Woods.

Speaker 1: 7:30

So, anyway, it started me being petty but also being honest that when her song yeah, glow came out, I just felt something in my spirit about her song, and so it has gotten so cornered, so bad, that my booth thing, love of my Mike Fox tri-life, and my men and me have tried to limit me playing that song. But you know what? That's why I love Tomorrow, because I play Tomorrow after that. Now let me tell you y'all my little mantra, because it has been a hell of a week. So the song we Fall Down but we Get Up was playing in my mind and I'll probably talk a little bit more about that so it can make sense, but just roll with me as I talk about music.

Speaker 1: 8:12

And that song came to my mind after the things that happened to me this week and so I decided to add it. Because at first I was listening to some hype music or not, and my booth thing got on me how I went from rap music to talk about Project Pat and he was talking about here Glorilla on a pimp and stuff like that. And here comes some gospel music and you know, I know how like quote, unquote, weird that might be or whatever with the transition. But I was like what, if it gets me happy, gets me hype. So we're starting off as a joke is now my mantra for real. So at first it was just like, yeah, glow, we fall down, we get up and never would have made it and stuff. And then, like I said, I just recently added Tomorrow too. So my wordplay and I can. I don't even need to read the comments.

Speaker 1: 9:02

I know some people definitely disagree with this pastor. Number one talking about secular music in the pulpit. One and number two, calling Glorilla artists, because you know how sometimes black folks don't like rap music, and rightfully so, I guess. But it's the issue in the pulpit. So again, all of this stuff is off the dome. So of course I'm a rabble going to tangent, but it's going to make sense. I'm going to make sense, I'm going to put a nice bow on it.

Speaker 1: 9:31

So let's backtrack into some years ago when Montell Jordan came out and the song was this Is how we Do it. I remember some church that the woman that gave birth to me and I had attended and he was really breaking down the lyrics of this Is how we Do it and it pissed me off because I personally didn't like how he was trying to attribute to the way of music of hip. Well, montell Jordan, I could send him RB of trying to put that crossover and talk about how the fact that someone shouldn't be like this. So I'm serious, y'all. He really broke it down and I'm going to do. It's been a while my memory sucks, but certain things I can remember. So here I am going to repeat some of Montell Jordan's lyrics. I'm not going to play it, obviously, so you can kind of feel where this passage at the time was coming from.

Speaker 1: 10:26

So he has ASR, reach for my 40 and I turn it up. Designated driver, take the keys to my truck, I'm going to shawl because I'm faded. Honey in the streets say Montell, yo, we made it. So the guy had an issue talking about faded and I forgot because again, it's been a long time, but I think he had an issue with that. So my thing is Reading these lyrics now yeah, he has some alcohol, but he had to designated driver. So what's the issue with that? All right. And so he's talking about our kind of buzz it's all because this is how we do it, blah, blah, blah. So then, let's see, he goes back to you. See, the hood's been good to me ever since I was a lowercase she, but now I'm a big G, the girl. See, I got the money, hundred dollar bills, y'all and stuff. So again, I'm briefly reading this. But I don't see anything wrong with this song because if anything is talking about how far that he has came, and here he is being a singer again.

Speaker 1: 11:28

It's been a minute, but the past was trying to say, like, how devilish and evil that is to be drinking and to be talking about that. And a lot of the other people there were around my age at the time who was listening to this sermon or whatever had an issue with it and stuff. And I just feel like that is always the go-to when it comes to pastors to always talk about R&B and hip-hop. So that's one thing. And I remember also when DMX came out RIP to DMX, what's that? Oh yeah, that's on party up. So this was obviously when I was a little bit older and the I don't know if he was a pastor either, but anyway the pastor was talking about ain't nobody gonna make you lose your mind and lose your cool, and everybody was all up into it and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 12:14

And he like again, as I reflect, it's kind of aggravating because I feel like and again, I know I talk about Christian a lot, but I feel like that's some cult, cultish type of way. So like, excuse me, talk about somebody and yes, I've been drinking, but my mind is still in the game. I feel like it's a cultish type of way to make somebody feel bad and a horrible because they Want to listen to some other music minus Gospel music, or even get to the point where if it's not quote-unquote the traditional way of gospel music, it's a problem. I remember hearing people talk shit about Kirk Franken when he came out and stuff like that, because it's like, oh, how dare he plays this type of music and it's like if this is what's getting the people to God, jesus or whatever, it shouldn't be an issue and stuff. And I just Overall you know how I feel about Christianity, but I overall don't like this whole core relation to anything that black people do.

Speaker 1: 13:12

This secular is wrong and it's like you mean to tell me Christians can have a life outside of church. They have to always be about Jesus and God and and let's not forget which a lot of people like to remind folks, you know, some of the disciples weren't the greatest, bestest people and everybody likes to say it. But Jesus, god or whatever will use you and, like, I guess, make you a better person. But I think the other thing is, if you're judging people talking about people, aren't you still doing sinful stuff? But I guess it doesn't matter, and especially if you dislike people who are not heterosexual. So where all of this is coming from and and where I feel, like I said, the big issue is the fact that at the end of the day, I feel like it's black people just trying to be one step above the other black people as they talk about them and stuff and so Back, bringing it black, back to gorilla. It's like her shit to me is very motivational and stuff like.

Speaker 1: 14:17

I'm gonna talk about some of her lyrics and stuff. But one part I like is that she said you know, before I let a whole try me, I'll go eat some jail food. I see nothing wrong with that because she's saying that like I Really go to jail, then deal with that stuff. And I also love what I consider the Affirmations within the song. You know, when she say stop overthinking. These hoes can't fuck with you, period. And I like that because sometimes I have to remind myself to not overthink. It's hard and stuff. And let's see what else she said. On top of the world now they tried to underestimate me. She even talked about the fact like when she was humbled people didn't appreciate it and what else. Y'all can read the rest of the lyrics if you want to, but I see nothing wrong with that and we can go to the song tomorrow.

Speaker 1: 15:07

And that's where that pastor that I was talking about earlier from be more was talking about. How you know, and I love the way he put it together I'm paraphrasing, but he was talking about, yes, calling her gospel artist. That's why I love tomorrow, because you know, joeth comes into the morning and again For me he added something that was relevant. He praised glorilla with her songs and if that's, if I like the correlation and the duality between it. But on top of that, if his Plan was to bring, I guess, younger people into the church, I think he was successful in that. Of course, other people aren't going to see it that way because, if I'm not mistaken, in Atlanta, bringing in 2024 some I forgot the pastor name he was playing yeah, I got that swag song and a lot of people had posted it or what it not and had an issue with that secular song being played in church. But to me that song wasn't bad at all.

Speaker 1: 16:06

I remember this lady I went to college with. I might have talked about her, it's okay. She was a preacher's kid, still is one, she's an adult now, obviously and she didn't like how some people in her choir wanted to change the lyrics to love by music soul child or Alicia Keys song no one, and make it a gospel song, and it's like At the time I was against it and I agreed with her. But as I've gotten older again, what's the issue, you know? I also remember her being yelled at by her parents, especially her mom, because she would read Zane books and I'm like what's wrong with Zane? At least she's reading, or whatever.

Speaker 1: 16:48

So to me again, I didn't grow up being a Christian, as I've said before, but that seems like a pretty, in my opinion, boring life where you have to constantly try your absolute best to be on this right path and anytime you venture off you think that you're going to hell. One or number two you can't really fully enjoy your life because to you, at the end of the day, well, at the end of your life, that's when you're going to really enjoy life, because you get to go to heaven, or you have to wait until Jesus comes back for you to get to heaven, I don't know. But the point is you're supposed to be quote unquote boring and not enjoy life and you'll get the joy tomorrow, basically whenever that tomorrow comes when you get to go to heaven. It's no wrong or right answer to me, but I, as always, don't like when other people try to talk about somebody else and try to be so rigid when it comes to Christianity when in their regular lives they're not as rigid. Like what the fuck? So clearly you have your moments of being human, having a human experience. So that's those parts.

Speaker 1: 17:48

But back to talking about music. I've mentioned before about how music can have again this duality where you might think that they're talking about something. They're talking about two things where you have to wonder are they really talking about what you think they're talking about, or what and how? Sometimes music can be a different way to change your vibe. Again, some people had talked about the fact of Andre 3000. When he came out with his music, I think he was on the flute and people was like, oh, that's the month I'm like you mean to tell me somebody playing music on their flute? And the other people had said that his music, that particular album, was on a certain frequency and that's what made it demonic. But that frequency was supposedly a frequency to put you at peace while you're listening to this music.

Speaker 1: 18:49

And when I had my mentor give my mini me a reading, was it no? Towards the end of last year she too was telling her to be careful about certain music and I never saw it as that way about how some people would say, depending on how the energy is of the person who sung the song, that energy can come over to you. But I could understand it. But I guess with me I'm that type of person who like, yeah, people might be talking about shooting and killing and everything, but that's not me. I, just, as crazy as it sounds, sort of like it just for the beat or just for the lyrics, because I view it as them not being intentional. I just view it as a form of art and stuff. So I, overall, really and truly like it because us, as Black people, we have all different thoughts in process. We are not the same Us humans, even if we act similar, we are not the same. We're not a monolith, we're not robots and at the end of the day it shouldn't really matter.

Speaker 1: 19:52

And from what I remember, that's all Glorilla has really been rapping about. Let's even go back to her first song that made her popular. She was talking about how she was fucking nigga free, like if that's not inspirational, saying that she ain't got a word about nobody. She know her, she's single, she's going to hang out with her friends, like what's wrong with that? Let people be young, wild and free, as long as they're not harming other people and stuff. And I just kind of wish the more people could break down music and see how sometimes music, just like Christianity, can coexist together One and number two, how it can be translated from sound and secular. But if you really break it down there could be some kind of gospel and anointing to it. So at first I really didn't want to talk about it but yeah, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1: 20:45

So earlier this week was kind of crappy. My men and me and I had a spiritual attack. I sort of kind of glossed over and talked about it on my TikToks. So my mentor gave me my read and I always liked to receive a reading from her at the beginning of the year. I was busy and it was just a great reading. I was pretty accurate with the thoughts that were coming in my head that she was confirming and stuff, and so I don't know what made me talk about it. But I told her how I felt like there was a spiritual attack on my mini-me and I and, show enough, there was one and stuff, and it had me real feeling, really flipping down about it, because my mini-me had got sick she is now better and then that means I had to miss work. So that means that I lost a bit of money and I had to take this test the next day.

Speaker 1: 21:39

And all throughout my head, as I was taking a test, the thought came that I was going to fail. And I'm like, no, I'm not going to fail, I'm going to like, make sure I do everything correctly. And I missed one. And so, excuse me, I missed one and that made me get a 75 and you need an 80. And of course I was feeling down and sad and everything, but I tried to pep myself up, to remind myself that it could have been worse, even though it wasn't that. You know, I was only one off and of course it was the next day. I retook a made a 95.

Speaker 1: 22:12

So, um, it was confirmed that that's what happened. Is that the simple fact that I did have a spiritual attack, and so did my men and me, and that really hurt my heart and my feelings. But, like I said, everybody since, okay and I'm doing what needs to be done on a spiritual tip and stuff, but I Never really thought about spiritual attacks. I know that those things are possible, there's power in the tongue, but I just never thought of having one that wasn't from a human and it wasn't words or work, it was like a spirit or what not, and stuff. And so many other things came from the reading and the big thing for me that made me I Guess the better word is happy about it is the fact that I am getting better with my relationship with my Herself due to meditating every single day and talking and building up their energy so that I could get better Conversations. And, of course, pamela gave me some tips on my journey to help me, which is why I always encourage somebody to have a mentor as they go on this journey.

Speaker 1: 23:24

And then my men and me went to therapy and Luckily her therapist she doesn't practice, who do, but she understands it and doesn't view it as a demonic thing. So we're able to have again this duality where she can help my men and me on a mental tip, but also on spirituality, which sometimes, whether people believe it or not, you need both. I remember also talking on tiktok and saying how, yes, you need to take care of your physical and your mental and your emotional, but if you're a spiritual type of person, you also have to take care of that as well, which is why I try my absolute best to do my monthly mantras and my monthly protections and things of that nature, so I can make sure that Everybody's being taken care of, as far as my spiritual court, I'm being taken care of, and other people as well who I also have permission to do spiritual prayers on, etc. And so, like I'm trying to correlate all this together and that's okay, I'm almost done. But when I was feeling down and I cannot make this shit up, that's some popped in my head we fall down and I played it and it just made me feel so much better, you know. And so, like I said, when I retook that test, I was able to pass, and the I think, two more tests that I took After it was part pretty cool because I had told my higher self before I did my prayer that I wanted to make a hundred and they responded and told me what I needed to do and I was able to do it. Now, the next test I didn't make a hundred. I made the 85, which is crazy because it's I was like I want a hundred. It's like now you'll get a 90, got a 85, that's fine.

Speaker 1: 25:12

Of course, the big thing is I did not change my answers, but anyway I'm trying to say in a very long conclusion is we shouldn't count out other people's music just because it's not for us, because it's okay if we're not their target audience, and we shouldn't cut out people who are not gospel singers, gospel rappers or anything that is different. Because, number one, nothing is new Underneath the Sun. Music has always been raunchy. You might not have known about it. Music has always been subtle. You might not have heard about it. Yes, I currently don't like some of the music that's out Nowadays because I feel like damn, I guess I'm quote-unquote old, because they're Sometimes the things they say is just so blunt and I'm like I miss the subtlety with any music. But I don't get too mad about it because I think I mentioned this before in the 1930s. There's a song that I listened to on Apple music called shave them dry and oh my gosh, mmm. She was talking about. Mmm, she was talking about that shit and stuff. So you can always find ways to have mantras to encourage you and to start your day. So, whether it's gospel music or not, there's nothing wrong with it and I want you to remember you can't get a Gloria without her hallelujah. So turn to your neighbor and say navel, yeah, are you kinky or not? I'm a proud kinkster.

Speaker 1: 26:44

The BDSM community. Let me tell you about this lifestyle to see if you want to come over to the dark side. We got candles. Have you ever been tied up from the flow up? Well, I have, and it's an interesting kink.

Speaker 1: 26:56

When I first began the lifestyle, as you know, I wanted to dabble into everything to see if it was for me. Rope is beautiful to watch. The end result is you can take pictures and you can enjoy being centralized and, you know, enjoying the touches and the feels of your significant other, but it's definitely not for me. Now I did have this guy Consensually take pictures of me being tied up. He did an amazing job. I wish my body at the time quote-unquote look better, but that's always a sad but true representation of my body image.

Speaker 1: 27:35

To me, anyway, rope is not limited to the stereotypical slim white woman being naked. Nope, I have seen a plethora of black BBWs being suspended by rope by a black male. Rigor yeah, you heard that right, rigor, not the other word. I have seen men tied up too. So rope like kink is inclusive to all consenting adults, regardless of their gender, gender expression, weight, race, ethnicity, etc. Here's some definitions before I begin the history of rope. Rope bunny is a person that enjoys being tied up. Rigor is the person that's doing the time. This job is extremely important because, as you know, what we do is dangerous. The rigor has to be knowledgeable and tie someone. Ensure they have safety shares to cut the rope for emergency situations, because tying can cause nerve damage. You can also self-tie yourself. I know some kinksters in my Ex kinky community. They were known to tie themselves up.

Speaker 1: 28:34

Shabari is a Japanese rope bondage and you can use different type of rope materials, like hemp or jute. Some people I know have used cotton, even me when I first started because I wasn't sure if that kink was for me. And you know you can wash cotton and it's more affordable. And if someone is allergic to other rope materials, cotton is a go-to. Non-cotton rope initially is scratchy, so if that's not your thing, you got to put in the oven and use oil to allow it to soften. You can Google how to do that or you can purchase rope that's already been treated. Midori was suggested to me if I wanted to learn more about rope, so I'm passing the knowledge to you on the history of Shabari. According to my dirty bucket list from medium, this is what the author says is History, shibari and how it is used today.

Speaker 1: 29:21

Shibari, also known as Japanese Role Bondage, is an ancient art form that has a storied history in Japan. Shibari involves the use of rope to create intricate patterns and knots around the body, resulting in a beautiful and complex bondage arrangement. The origins of Shibari? Shibari began as a form of Hojo Jutsu, a martial art practiced by the samurai in feudal Japan. Hojo Jutsu involved restraining prisoners and criminals using ropes, which served as a means of controlling elps doing the individual. This practice eventually involved in Shibari, which has become focused on the aesthetics and beauty of rope bondage. Shibari has its roots in the Edo period of Japanese history, which spanned from 1603 to 1867. During this period, many art forms flourished, including Kabuki, theater, yuuki, okie, woodblock Prints and, of course, shibari. Artists and performers were drawn to the intricate and beautiful patterns that could be created using rope, and Shibari quickly became a popular form of entertainment.

Speaker 1: 30:31

You can read the rest on your own. Now, as always. If you're interested in learning about this kink, please vet and watch potential partners. If you want to be tied up, if you want to self-tie yourself, please learn from your local kinky community or from someone that is knowledgeable. If you plan to use social media as a tool to learn, please, please, please, have safety shares on hand because, again, you just never know how your body might react to being tied up. You might feel uncomfortable or you might be allergic to whatever the fibers that's being used to tie you up or just any old thing. You always want to be as safe as you can. The safety shares needs to be strong enough that it can cut through whatever fiber that you're utilizing to tie, whether you're tying yourself or being tied by someone. If they don't have safety shares, that's a no-go for me.

Speaker 1: 31:22

All right, I believe you need to take your time and learn the basics, especially if you want to suspend someone or you want to be suspended, okay, always negotiate and discuss self-care. Be hydrated the day you decide to do it. No alcohol or drugs. Now, some people had told me that it's best to be hydra well, obviously you need to be hydrated no matter what, especially when it comes to doing kinky shit, but definitely when it comes to rope, because I think they said that if you are not hydrated you have to be extra cautious when it comes to being tied up. I have no idea, like I've said before, oh wait, I don't think I've told the story and stuff, so I'll tell the story real quick, all right.

Speaker 1: 32:05

So at one point in time I had some what are those? Some silk ties and stuff like that, and sometimes in the beginning of my relationship by sir, he would use that to tie me up and then my ex fuck him. He thought he was into it, and so I had bought cotton and went to cotton rope and went to a presentation with some kinky people and they tried to explain to him how to do it and it didn't work out with the fuck ever. Then maybe time had passed and we went to Farla Khan at the time and we were taught how to do things. Of course he was in his feelings pretty usual, because I guess for him he's supposed to know everything about kink, something that he's never been into or never was interested in, never was even interested in learning about something that he claimed that he wanted to be in, whatever. So this guy taught him how to give me, like a bra with some rope no, with the rope that he had. And he also showed him how to tie up my arms.

Speaker 1: 33:08

The problem is, you know, you can kick somebody from behind their leg and make them fall or whatever.

Speaker 1: 33:15

So I always have issues with my knees. So when he made me fall to my knees, thinking that shit was funny, I cursed him the fuck out. And then the guy who was teaching it to us had warned him like yo, you can't do that. Like, if you're going to kick them and make the person who you're tying up fall, you have to fall with them and stuff like that. So what the fuck ever? But that's just one of the things, again, that you know I've experienced and you don't have to. So, again, try your absolute best to get to know this person and just because they might be the guru or the go to person when it comes to being a rope yeah, being a rigor, or someone who was, who likes to be a rope bunny, or who can do either or still doesn't mean anything Watch them, see how they treat the person, see if they're willing to talk to you and for real, for real, take your time. So hopefully I ropes you into curiosity about the kink. Well, I've talked long enough, thank you.