S4 Ep28: Children’s Author and Autism Activist - Juan Muniz

This week on Magic Making Mischief, we are talking with children’s author and autism activist Juan Muniz. His art and books show deep, emotional connection to the heart and soul. Learn more about him and his work on 07JUL at 7PM CT.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Hey Magic Makers, I'm Mom Virella. I'm Yuki to Cosplay.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

And I'm CJ Peterson. Welcome to Magic Making Mischief. Get your wands to the ready. Get 'em ready. Because we solemnly swear we are up to no good. And speaking of up to no good, today we have with us Hi, my name is Juan Buniz from straight from Las Vegas. Awesome. Thank you for pronouncing that because I did not want to mess it up. So, Mommy Rolla, would you care to share how you know him?

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Yes. And for those of y'all who notice, we are missing a co-host today. She sadly could not be with us. But um speaking of, this is one of the books that I actually got. And the way that we uh crossed paths was our last Disney cruise that we took. We do the gift exchange fish extender. So there's a Facebook group that you set up for each Disney cruise. You go on to contact the people in your cruise, and it creates like a good sense of community. And this was uh the book they gave us in our fish extender. It has um his art and everything. I love the art news, by the way. Okay. And ironically, I have to mention this because I thought this was so funny. Uh, you don't always know each other's faces because you're commenting, you're sharing questions about the cruise and stuff on that group. And so we actually crossed paths on the cruise itself. Uh, at one point, um, we were in the lobby, and my husband and me were taking pictures, and uh y'all came up and said, Hey, would you mind taking a picture for us? And it was later after the cruise that I went back and went, wait, I know who that was, and I flipped through the Facebook group, and I'm like, Yeah, that was them. So that was my husband that took y'all's picture in the lobby in front of the uh Mickey statue.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Thank you. That was late.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah, we love wandering the halls of the cruise at night or the animals. Wow. Disney Cruise was my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

It kind of ends early for adults and it keeps going a little longer for kids. Like with adults, it'll end like around like 11 or 12, and like my kids would come in at like one in the morning. And I was like, man, it must be fun to be here.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

For real. Oh my goodness, real quick, guys. Jeremy Vanders says, hello everyone. Jeremy Vanders wands, maker of wonderful wands of 2024. Yes, indeed. You can see all the different amazingness that he has created. And we don't see juju today, but it's okay because she'll be back next time. It'll be great. Speaking of Juju, uh, love you guys, anyone who are watching. We love you too, Juju.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Yeah. Yeah. I was excited. Thank you guys for having me so much.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Yeah, it's so great having you. Uh I absolutely love how your your books are not just uh great stories for kids, great art that you do, but also it's an advocacy for autism, and it really gives it, it presents it to kids in a way that they can understand. And even those who have autism, like it shows it to them as in this one a superpower, basically. And I love that. I think that is like the sweetest uh perspective on it. And uh, I mean, it's I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Um it means so much to me that parents with kids that are on the spectrum love it and like that the kids love it because at the end of the day, that's the biggest compliment that I can get. Yeah, and it's it was such an amazing feeling because I like I said, for me, a little story about me was like I'm actually I grew up, I wanted to be an illustrator for Disney. Like I wanted to work for Disney and I wanted to be a Disney animator more than anything in the world, and I actually went to school for animation um and got my degree, uh, moved back to Vegas, and then I ended up like working as a tattoo artist for 10 years and got a degree in graphic design. And eventually I I wanted to become an artist, a gallery artist. And I I told myself as a kid that I was I one day I would have my paintings hanging in galleries like all over the country, and it came true. And I got to travel and I get to make a living as an artist, but it wasn't till like during COVID that I was seeing all these things that were going on in the world, and it just made me really sad, like inside my heart. And I was like, having two daughters, I kind of sat down, turned everything off, and started which watching the cartoons that I loved growing up as a kid. A lot of the Disney like gummy bears and duck tales and shows like Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street, and I remember that warm, like chicken soup for the soul kind of feeling watching those shows, and I'm like, the world needs more of this. And I was doing art and it was cartoony and illustrative, but it was uh had a lot to do with my own struggles with mental health and depression, and I wasn't really pushing anything positive, I was more of just talking about my own feelings and it was my own therapy. But when all these things were going on in the world and I was watching these shows like Mr. Rogers, I'm like, well, Mr. Rogers' songs are very simple, cute, straight, and to the point. I'm like, I I think I could do that because I used to love to write poetry, and I realized because I know how to illustrate, there's nothing stopping me from writing a children's book. So I first wrote a book called I'm Not Okay Today, and I actually it's another book that I was giving away on the cruise, and I wrote this one, and it was about a little child that just going through their feelings, they don't even understand them and they don't know how to express them, and sometimes they feel like they're broken. Um, and I felt like that growing up a lot. So I wanted to write this book, and while I was doing this research and all these things about myself and my own mental health, while working with autism groups, I kind of found out that I was on a spectrum because I was working with these children and they were like telling me um all these things that they do, and I realized that I do a lot of the similar things, and their parents were like, Well, have you ever been checked? And one thing led to another. I met a doctor and he donated his time, and I found out that I was high functioning but on the spectrum, and I didn't see it as a handicap, I saw that almost like as a gift because I saw the world differently than what other people see it like, and that's why I'm able to create the art that I create because I see the world in my own ways, and I'm like, that's not a handicap at all. I'm like, to me, this feels like a superpower power. So I have this gift that I'm able to remember not only memories of when I was a kid, but the emotions and what I felt like as a child. So that's why I'm able to write these books from a child's perspective to adults, and I call all my books the children's books for adults, even though it's geared for children, it's geared for every adult and every inner child that's in the adult because we still have that inner child in us, a lot of times, you know, with a lot of trauma. So I write these books for kids, but I hope that the parent also reads them for themselves. And that's why to me, when we were doing this the cruise, I grew up such a huge Disney fan and storytelling fan that they teach that even though we were doing the the same exchange, like Disney stickers and all the other stuff, I wanted to give these books away. Any chance that I get. I mean, I do conventions and I do trade shows, but the message is so important to me that I want to get these books out. And I've written uh like about five books right now, everyone focusing on mental health. I'm working on another autism book right now that's gonna come out next month. So to me, it's just it's getting that message because it's so important to me. And then the more the world seems scarier and like angrier, the more that I'm like, I feel like I have to do this. So that's why I was like, for the for the cruise, I was like, I have to give these books away. And then it was just this fun thing where the family started recognizing me and having their kids like come up to me, and like I got to sign it, and it was just a lot of fun, and it was just to me, it was just amazing. And because I was on that cruise, and there were so many families that had their children on spectrum that when I posted on the group that I was doing this, I was getting requests like, Can I get a book? Can I get a book? And we ran out. And while I was on that cruise speaking to these families and these kids, I got the idea for the next book that's coming out that I'm working on right now called Artie the Autistic Artistic Turtle. And it's um and I tell parents that that the book is about um like if you're ever spoken to a child or anybody that's on the spectrum and you speak about their interest, the things that they love, the thing that they obsess most about, they go almost to a genius level PhD doctorate thesis about it, you know, and it could be uh it could be art, it could be dinosaurs, it could be whatever it is, and then you see that spark in them. Yeah, it's like it's space, and it's like you see that spark in them, and just they just dump all this beautiful information and excitement. And I'm like, I do that. I have friends that do that, I see that in kids, you know. As adults, we don't almost allow ourselves to be that excited about things that much anymore. And like to me, I'm like, that's such a beautiful aspect that I'm writing this uh, you know, this story and illustrating the story right now, and it was just about this little turtle who just loves art, and you know, and it's telling you all about it. And if you've ever had like if you've ever spoke a child to spoke to a child or had a child that's on a spectrum or yourself in the spectrum, you know what that feeling is like, and it's hard to explain. But I'm trying my best to do it on this book, and I've been talking to a lot of uh people here in Las Vegas that I work with, a lot of foundations uh that work with families to get resources, you know, for their kids. That I started showing them the book book and showing the kids the books, and to me it's like being able to share the book and they're like, I do this and I do that, and this is me. And that's my biggest compliment right now to that book, is when every kid and everybody that reads them like this is me. And I'm like, Yes, like that's my goal. So that's what I'm working on right now, and like that's a little bit of what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

And say one thing about it is it's not just this is me, but you're also showing the world this is how they think, so you're showing them that you know, take this beautiful diamond. There it's it's not something to be afraid of, it's not something to fear, it's not something, you know, to to shun or anything. This is a beautiful diamond, this is how it works. You know what I mean? So so you're showing the role. This this is how it works, and and this is how you need to work with it. And that's what I love about your books that you're you're describing it, is you're saying this is how it works.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Because you're showing it from your perspective, and I love it's hard for people to put stuff into words, and that's when I realized with my art that I do is I take this, I've always had this quote with my own art, for whether it be my paintings or my illustrations, and when people try to get me to explain it, I'm like, say it simple, mean it deep. Visually, my art is very simplistic, but the message behind it goes so much deeper because I'm not telling you what to think, I'm just kind of putting that information in front of you. So when people look at my art, even though it's cartoony and colorful, they could relate to the character, be like, he looks sad or he looks happy. I'm like that's actually just you projecting your feelings onto it, which is what I love to do. And being able to have that that gift within me of being able to share how a a child, like me as a child, would feel explaining whatever I'm going through. It also these books also allow myself as I learn more about living on the spectrum and why these things bother me or why certain things are able to, you know, get me like more overwhelmed. I had to learn to have more grace to myself. And that's what this taught me. It was to have that that caring and loving grace instead of being so harsh on myself because I thought I was making mistakes, you know. And and I think that that's a beautiful lesson to teach children, but always to remind adults of that as well, because we do so much for others, but when it comes to ourselves, we don't take that much care and grace like we do to others. And that's something that I want to remind people with my art, you know. And these books I take them to conventions and trade shows and always make sure that make sure that parents read them. There's I try my best to get them to read them, but a lot of adults don't want to.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I see, but I really wanted to hear what he had to say.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

No, I'm but I think he needs to hear some of these comments because they're really good.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

So the world needs more of you. Thank you so much. I have an autistic nephew, and I'm going to get your books for him. I also want a book for my patients, please. That'd be great. Your way is beautiful. And Julie says, I'm crying happy tears over here. You're such a treat to know. Um, super hubby asks, Did you ever get art training? And he also says, Hello.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Oh. Well, thank you guys so much. Honestly, it's like a lot of times do I do like it? It's funny. I feel like I'm in my own little world and everything's closed off, and I'm just working on these books, working on illustrations. I'm like, every time I do a page or a painting, I'm like, I hope this helps. And it was from based on a quote from Mr. Rogers, because I literally paid like all my teaching, all the teachings that he had, all the books that he wrote, people wrote books about him. I studied everything about Mr. Rogers, and he was always there for me. And one of the things that he was quoted saying is that when he was young and he saw scary things outside in the world, he would ask his grandmother and she would say, always look for the helpers, there's always people willing to help. So from that moment on, I took that as like just my fighting call. Like that is like edged in my heart to like, okay, be the kind of helper that he would have been proud of. You know, and unfortunately I didn't have a lot of support with my family growing up. That's why there was a lot of trauma there that I'm st you know, I'm still overcoming. But being able to learn to forgive myself, to forgive them, to realize that nobody has a blueprint on how to be a parent. And it wasn't until I became a parent that I realized it was like, wow, there's a lot of things that I have to do, especially for my daughters, to let them know that it's an okay it's okay to not feel okay. It's okay to feel worried or scared, you know, because at the end of the day, there's always people that are gonna be willing there to help and to listen. Might not be a million, but one or two are more than be willing to help. And with the books that I wrote, um, I just needed them as a kid, and they weren't there. So I figured as I got older, I'm like, well, why can't I do it? You know, what's stopping me from doing it? And for the longest time I did feel that I wasn't the qualified person to do it. You know, I saw shows like you know, Mr. Rogers and Steve from Blues Clues, and I was like, I I can't. I mean, just even look at me, look where I came from, look what I've done. And it took me a long time to realize I'm exactly what Mr. Rogers wanted us to be, to be the best version of myself. And that way I could let other kids know out there that you can do this. Not only can you do this as a living, but you could do it and help other people out there. And I know everything is that I do is it's such a to me, it's such a blessing that I get to do this and show this to my daughters and see that they could do these things too, at the same time while I'm feeling like I'm actually doing something that helps. Because I was doing art before and it wasn't really, I don't think it was helping anybody else besides myself, you know, to feel better. And when I just saw how angry the world can be and how you know scared the world can be, I was like, ah, I just I feel like I need to do something. And even if I'm wrong, this is a hill that I want to die on of just empathy, kindness, love, and respect. Because why not?

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Well, creatives tend to use the heart and soul anyway, and you are putting your heart and your soul out there, and you but you're also putting it on another level, and I think that that's a beautiful thing. And so thank you for putting your heart out there and putting a part of yourself out there that not a lot of people are willing to risk. And so I think that that's huge and it's admirable. So thank you for doing that. Did he freeze? I think so. We might be frozen. I think he might have froze. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

But I want to add a little bit onto what he's he was uh talking about with advocacy. That's the number one thing as an R V T that uh you want to teach the kids is literally how to advocate for themselves and to speak up for themselves and how we call in the biz, use your words. So I I love that. I love that uh I love that in his books he's essentially teaching the kids to use their words and figure out that they are just like every other kid, except you're that much more great.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

I know. And it it gets me thinking because growing up I went through a number of different mindsets. First off, was that everyone's mind must work like mine, and then I couldn't understand why it seemed, you know, I always got in trouble or this or that, you know. And I was like, but everybody else says the same thing, right? But like as I got older, I realized they don't, their minds don't work like my mind's. And that's why, you know, I was like a different perspective on things. And I I love how in these, he literally goes uh behind the scenes for the kids, you know, how their minds work and how they learn to hide that, you know. And like this one especially like goes into how they learn to hide who they are because all of a sudden, you know, they realize I am different, and they become, you know, embarrassed or worried or scared about how that's gonna affect others, but then it goes beyond that. And that's what makes this great is that the story goes into once you realize that that is actually a superpower, you know, literally, like that is that is a that's what makes you special, that's what makes you unique, and it's a good thing that you're like that, it's not a bad thing. And that's that was a huge step for my brain to have to process all that growing up without any knowledge of what the deal was with that, knowing that I was kind of different and realizing, oh, everybody doesn't think like I do. That's why we don't get along all the time. That's why I get in a lot of trouble. You know, it's like, oh yeah, life makes more sense with that. And then that's fun. We we kind of kept going.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

We're just giving your book more accolades, that's all.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

I was sitting outside and being in Vegas, it's 104 degrees, and my phone just said it is way too hot. So I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

That'll do it. That'll do it. I've never used that.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

No, no, and I I really appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

We have a comment that says Dad says what an awesome fellow he is. You have a Vietnam vet fan.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Oh you know what is it it means so much to me being able to do these books, and when I doing this art, I would start getting messages from like grown men overseas, like people that I never even met, people that are 20, 30 years my senior. And because I was according to to a lot of people, because I was able to open up 110% when I was dealing with my emotions and stuff like that, and talking about it on social media through my art, I'd get messages that they were able to open up like 10% to a family member. So to me, I'm like, if I could do this and just be out there in it, and I get a lot of you know, negative messages because it's social media, it's the internet, you know, it tends to happen. But there's the the ones that are messaging me privately and saying thank you for sharing this because I'm not able to, you know, thank you for being this open because I was able to talk to my mom and my parents and doing conventions and trade shows when parents would come up and tell me, you know, my child was feeling depressed and they didn't know how to express themselves, so they literally just started showing me your Instagram and showing me your books and your illustrations, and that's when I felt that okay, this isn't just me trying to do these books just for myself or for fun, like there's actually a purpose here. So it's like a lot of the time it's just seeing these these children. I'm like, I know what it felt like to want to speak up, or I know what it felt like to felt broken and nobody telling me that it was gonna be okay. You know, a simple hand on the shoulder would have been perfectly fine, like it's gonna be okay. But I unfortunately I didn't have that, and it's such a huge thing for a child to have those adults that can reinforce those moments that you know the things are gonna be fine, the things will pass, you know. A lot of times, because we didn't have that growing up, it's I guess it's hard to have it for our children. And I'm like, now I it's I I think one of the biggest things that's helped me is that I allowed myself to remain like childlike within me and try to keep as much childlike wonder. That's why I'm so obsessed with Disneyland. That's why I'm so obsessed with the cruise. Like that cruise that you saw me in, my kids weren't even in it. Like my kids were at home. That was me and that was me and my wife's like like trip that we took, and it was just like the storyline from from Disney and Pixar, you know, it's like those are the things that made me happy. And a lot of these there's one book that I wrote that that's called I'm Not Okay Today, and adults will probably get halfway through it before they put it down because it touches a nerve. Kids will get all the way through it and and read it, and I find it interesting because as a child you still haven't been jaded by thinking that there's always gonna be a bad ending, and you're always hoping for the good. So I always tell people in the middle of them reading the book, I'm like, it has a happy ending, I promise, I swear. And it was like um a lot of adults will like will be like, oh no, it's fine, or a lot of people like, oh, it's okay, I'm in therapy, I'm a like a therapist or I'm a counselor. Or I'm I'm teacher, and then two minutes later I turned back and they're just sobbing. Yeah, and it was just uh I always felt like I was never good enough to be a writer, I just was the kid that drew. But I watching more of like these documentaries of people that I admire, you know, whether it be like LeVar Burton from Reading Rainbow, you know, or Jim Henson, you know, these are the people that I'm like, I wanna do what you guys did. You know, I want to be able to help the younger generation to feel that childlike wonder still exists and not end. And it doesn't matter if you're you're neurodivergent, you know, it doesn't matter if you're dealing with ADHD. We all have that beautiful gift within us, and it's something that can be shared with everybody if we just pay attention and look a little bit harder, you know, especially with our kids. Because I see I have two daughters, one's 13, one's 18, and I can never like imagine what it'd be like not being there, supporting them in what they and what they love to do. Because when you see these kids just spark up, it's such a beautiful feeling. And I do have friends that are you know, so many friends that are adult artists, and when they start talking about it, it's still that same beautiful feeling. But it'd be amazing if we could share that with everybody, not just the ones that are creating art, because we all have that love and that passion that that we have we keep deep down inside of us. But whether it like we allowed life to beat it out of us or whatever, it's like to me, I'm like, I want to be that reminder to that little kid inside of us, because I'm I'm that to myself and to my kids every day. And you know, it's like writing these books, especially the new one, like um that with Artie, the autistic turtle, it was just it was something that I want to do, but I was scared to do. Well now I see that it's important.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Well, even academics though is somewhat of an art, mathematics is an art. Yeah, and people don't connect that. And it's like, no, actually, math math can be an art. It's a beautiful art, it's a passion and it it's something that can be driven, but sometimes if somebody's good in academics, they're driven so hard that that that passion is driven out of them, yeah, that that creativity is driven out of them, and they kind of lose the artistic spark part of it, and it just turns into a drive. Oh, yeah, as opposed to passion.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

I am falling out of love with art many times. It's broken my heart many times until I I learn that as cheesy as it sounds, it's the journey of just continuing going on. And it's like and I've burned myself out because you know, taking the leap and being a full-time artist while being married with kids, you know, it's not an easy thing to do, that a lot of people never take that leap. But I couldn't be stuck in a job, I needed to do what I wanted to do. But there's times where I myself have burned myself out to where the the drive was there, but the passion wasn't, and I had to relearn to fall in love with it of why I did it. And with me, I realized that if I stopped doing it because I'm hurt, I didn't get that gig or whatever, and I just like I don't want to do this anymore. Eventually that itch comes around, and I'm just like, I can't, I have to create. I have to, it's my own therapy, it's my own way of it's my journal. You know, it's like, and and at least to me, I knew that no, even though nobody believed that I could have been able to do this as an adult, like even like my own family. Being able to look back to that kid in third grade that made that promise that I will always be an artist, and then my paintings, my cartoon paintings will hang in galleries across the world. Being able to say that I'd done that, and I'm continuing to do that while still being able to be a dad there every day, because that's the most important thing to me. It's being able to do this and be there for my kids and letting them know that as scary as the world can be, there's always people willing to help.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

That's that's a mission.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I think we have a few comments real quick.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Mom and dad deserve fun too, says Juju. And Jeremy says, that's one reason why I love seeing the energy my daughter gives when showing her art. So beautiful. His daughter is also autistic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

I mean, I I think honestly, everybody needs that that person in their life, that moment, whatever the whatever whether it's a book that they pick up uh from a, you know, or or or a teacher or you know, someone in their field of study or something, even like, or just like an advocate, like uh who works with autistic server, whatever it is, they need someone who is that person that is the catalyst for their life of realizing I am actually, you know, I am actually good like this. I am made this way for a reason. There is a purpose, you know, and I think I think that is exactly what your books are doing. And I love that. I love the the mission that that sends out that message of uh not just to the kids themselves who might have uh been on the might be on the spectrum, but to the families of them or to the people around them who don't know the children who don't know it from that perspective as well, too. And I love that. I think that's amazing. So thank you for doing that.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Thanks. It's just there's a lot of times too when I talk to families or that a lot of parents will bring their kids to to my booths at events, and it it's it's kind of it kind of hurts a little bit because I see that they are a little frustrated because they don't understand their their children, and a lot of times they haven't, you know, talked to anybody about it, and they might they fear that their child might be on the spectrum because a lot of times what I get from them is that a parent might feel like they failed if their child is diagnosed, and because of that, they don't even want to get them tested or looked at, you know, let alone let alone get themselves checked as well. So it was like uh it's a lot of the times almost having this conversation. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but when you take your dog to a dog trainer, they don't really teach the dog, they teach the trainer, you know, how to be able to work with the dog. So it's like being able to talk to these parents are like, well, I just get frustrated when they do this and they do that, and I just don't know why they do that. And I'm like, it's it's okay. Like, it doesn't mean anything negative when they just stop talking, you know, it doesn't mean anything negative when they just kind of go off by themselves in the middle of a conversation. You know, it's just getting to understand the person, and you know, to me, it's getting to understand myself, and the more that you understand yourself, the more that you're like, Well, I don't like that, maybe I shouldn't do that. This overwhelms me, I shouldn't put myself around this. That's just normal for anybody. But it's now you're learning it for your child as well. And I found it harder being a parent who's on the spectrum because nobody really talks about that. You talk about parents who have children that are on the spectrum, but being a parent who still has to deal with the everyday issues of being a parent and the stress of you know raising kids while trying not to stay overwhelmed and trying not to get upset or like you know, crash out, you know, it's something that's not talked about all enough. And that's something that I'm that's another book for the future.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

Yes, that should definitely be a book for the future.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

It's a tough one, but I'm like I'm happy that I was able to go through all of this, the the ups and the downs, because I I'm grateful that I could share these stories and be able to get this these messages out there just because I feel that it's very important that it's not talked about enough. And it might not make a big dent in society, but at least I'm like chipping away at it.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Well, Juan, thank you so much for sharing your heart and for sharing your soul and for sharing sharing your books with the world and sharing your art with the world. Um, it's huge and it's definitely needed. Um, so we thank you so much for joining us today and sharing that and sharing your time with us. To learn more about Juan and his work, you can look at an Instagram at N-I-N-O-B-U-N-I. Um, I shared parts of that on the screen earlier today. You can check that out for yourself. Um, next week we're gonna have comedian Thomas Mays. So we can check that out next week. Mommy, get your wands ready. Go ahead and take us out. We're over time.

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Okay, if you haven't smashed that thumbs up yet, smash it and share this out because more people need to know about this. And we absolutely love it. Um, as well as make sure you're following CJ Peterson, Mombi Rella, and Eukita Casplay, and Juju Jones, who isn't with us right now. But she will be back next week. And till next time, guys, get those wands up because it is Mischief Manice.