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Speaker 1This year , if you're ever in Florida , come hang out with us , worship with us at Alive Church . We got a conference that's coming up in November . For more information about those things , you can check out our show notes as well . I want to jump into today , sweetheart , and I want to talk about navigating grief a guide to overcoming the loss and finding healing . Talk about navigating grief a God to overcoming the loss and finding healing . I wanted to do this podcast today because I recently lost my mom , and when I say lost , I didn't lose her .
Speaker 1I know exactly where she is . She's with Jesus . But what I mean is that she transitioned . She's no longer here with us , and this was a painful moment , a sobering moment .
Speaker 1Mom , she was diagnosed with cancer back in 2020 , and she passed on November 25th of 2024 , so just several months ago and it was weird for me . It was weird because there's some things I believe about the Bible that I did not see come to pass . I believe that when we lay hands on the sick , they shall recover . I believe that God is Jehovah Rapha that means he , a God who heals these . So we believed God for four years that she would be healed . I also believe that the number of a man's days should be at least 70 years according to the Bible , three score and 10 . And she was right at 69 . So we were really just standing on the word .
Speaker 1And so when we started at the end , kind of seeing her transition , and I was in a very weird place it almost felt like I wanted to believe God for her to be healed , but there was a part of me that was ready to see the suffering end . Yes , and I believe that there are some people that I'm not alone , that you've had a grandparent or a parent that you watched in pain , and I saw my mom fight the good fight of faith in a way that I'd never seen anybody fight like this . I mean , she stood on the word , she didn't allow . She was so positive , she was so encouraging . There would be times where you would call her wanting to build her up , and she would build you up and I was . I was conflicted because I wanted to see her healed and I believe that is a promise from God , but I was not happy to see her go . I was happy to see the pain come to an end and I know that in heaven there's no sorrow and there's no pain . What was your feeling about that moment ?
Speaker 2I felt , you know , I had a little bit of conflict as well . My conflict was I felt like I know when , you know , she went into the hospital , and when she went to the hospital , I just remember spending time with the Lord and feeling like I felt like I knew that she wasn't going to come out . It's really hard to say even now . It's conflicting because , according to my faith , it's like no , I'm going to call things that be , not as though they are . I'm going to just speak faith . I'm going to speak life , I'm going to declare the word of God .
Speaker 1Because we've seen so many people be healed by that .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1But at the same time , we've seen people not be healed .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1And the reality of healing is that there is a mystery in healing . Yes , there are some things that don't make sense and at that crossroads you can either get bitter , and say God , I'm angry at you . The most humble thing you could do is say palms up . Nevertheless . I don't understand it , but I still trust you I don't like it , but I still trust you .
Speaker 1And death is a funny thing . It really is , Because what I realized through my mom's passing is that we all have to go . There's only a couple people who've been able to just what would be the word Transcend .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Like who is it ?
Speaker 2Enoch , enoch and Elijah . Maybe Elijah had a chariot , yeah .
Speaker 1And then , of course , jesus was resurrected , and then the ascension on a cloud and rolled
out , but that's all , that's all we got . So that's the anomaly . So , but this is the sobering part about death is that every single person is going to go that way . Yeah , and Every single person is going to go that way , yeah , and sometimes , when you're living life , because I hadn't had somebody pass away in a long time , that was real close to me .
Speaker 2I had some friends .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm talking about like a parent or a grandparent . Yeah , I think I lost my last grandparent when I was 19 . So my grandfather on my dad's side I never met . He passed before I was born . My grandmother on my dad's side passed when I was about 10 , my grandfather about 12 on my mom's side and my grandmother about 19 .
Speaker 1So I'm late 40s . So here it is , all that span and my mom passes away and all of a sudden you realize that , okay , this ain't forever . And that's the problem Many young people . They're living like that's forever . They don't want to talk about eternity . I don't care about heaven or hell right now , because they're so consumed with the right now but , tomorrow's not promised .
Speaker 1I mean , it is promised to a certain extent , but it's not promised at the same time . So what I'm saying is that we're only here for a brief moment , and I think what we learned as well is that death is a natural occurrence , and it's actually I learned over the years that death is actually a blessing . And the reason that I say that , because I want to give perspective about death because there's so many people who have fear of death or they don't understand death and they don't understand the afterlife , and we want to help them today .
Speaker 1But what I learned years ago is that death is actually a gift from God to us , because , if not , mankind would have went on possibly living forever without him . So in the garden , remember , there was two trees . There was a tree of knowledge of good and evil , then there was the tree of life , and so as soon as Adam and Eve ate the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , they had sin in their life . And so , instead of them finding the next tree , the tree of life , and living forever separated from God , what did he do ? He got them out of the garden , away from the tree of life , because he wanted them to die . He wanted them to die physically so they would not be forever separated from him . And so death was actually something that is . It don't seem like a gift , but it's a gift so that he can give us a new body and that we can come from a natural world to an eternal world , from a natural world to a spiritual world .
Speaker 1And so it's good that man die once , because after that the judgment , but after that , of course , we enter into the fullness of eternal life where we can be with Jesus and no sorrow , so forth and so on , and so a lot of this man was never created to die and that's why it's painful . That was never God's intention for us . We were supposed to be in Eden , also known as paradise , and we were supposed to tend the garden and extend the territory and have this . We didn't even need to have clothes on back then .
Speaker 2Come on , we didn't have any abortion , no divorce no sin . Before they ate of the fruit of the tree . They were in obedience to God . They were in communion with God .
Speaker 1The .
Speaker 2Bible says he walked with them in the cool of the day , and so they had a great relationship with God . But when sin came , it separated them from God , and so that's where we are . Well , we were in a separate , a separated state , but Jesus came . We're reunited .
Speaker 1Thank you , jesus , but in death we will be again how God once created us , From the original intent . So we've been redeemed spiritually , but now we need a new body . Yes , so every single person has to wrestle with the reality that our bodies are decaying because of sin . It was never the intention of God , but now he made a way , a second chance , God , for us to be redeemed , bought , paid for with a price . Our spirit man , we accept Jesus . We're born again spiritually . We can renew our soul , renew our mind . The last thing is is that we need a new body . Because of sin , this body's going to decay and we can see it . It's not the same as it was in our 20s . It's not the same in our 50s , 60s , 70s , 80s . And when our spirit and soul leave this physical body , God is going to give us a new body .
Speaker 1For those of us who are born again . We will live forever with him in the new Jerusalem , and that's an exciting thing . But the reality of death is just . It's for many people . They get stuck in grief . So I just wanted to open up this conversation and just say have you lost a lot of people over your life and , if so , how did you deal with grief back then
versus how do you deal with it now ? Maybe that's a good place to start .
Speaker 2That's really good because my answer is yes . I've lost a lot of people and most of them were in that front , the front part of my life before I knew Jesus .
Speaker 2And it was really hard on me because I didn't have any answers . And so I lost my dad at six years old . I lost my uncle , who I lived with , who was a father figure to me , at maybe six , seven years old . I lost my grandfather , my grandmother who raised me . I lost my aunt , who was like a mother to me .
Speaker 2So I lost a lot of people at an early age and at the time , as an unbeliever , I thought that death was just . I mean , I heard people say . I remember asking my mom when my dad at his funeral , and his body was there in a coffin , and I don't think I remember her telling me he's in heaven now . But I had no clue what that meant . I just it didn't mean anything to me because I , you know , I didn't actually remember it today Cause I was so confused Like what does that mean ? Um , and so even after my grandmother died , I was 12 years old . I remember thinking I was terrified of death because it was like I thought you just everything turned black and you cease to exist . Yeah , it's just nothingness .
Speaker 1I think that there are some atheists that believe that and I think that there are some people who and man , what's the purpose of all of this ?
Speaker 2Yeah , that's really sad , it's very sad .
Speaker 1It was depressing to me . There's a lot of people like I heard somebody say this yeah , that's really sad . It was depressing to me . Believe in a virgin universe , but they can't believe in a virgin birth .
Speaker 1You got to choose your miracle because you're going to have faith to believe that 7 billion , 8 billion , 9 billion . You just add years onto it and say well , this happened a long time ago , well , you got to have faith for that . You can't prove that , you can't see it . So I'd rather have faith in a living Messiah who raises the dead and heals the sick , even today .
Speaker 2Wow , I don't understand how people can't live in you know , believe in God , just when you think of a spirit realm . You know we're talking about death , and you know so . You're either going to cease and become nothing . You know what happens to your spirit . You just cease to exist . But if you believe that you're more than just flesh and blood , you know like you're a spirit , you know you .
Speaker 1So we understand , you guys , that there's a whole lot of ideologies about the afterlife , whether it be karma or whether it be cease to exist . We have a biblical worldview and we believe there's one God and that one God gave his one son . His name was Jesus , and thank God that we have the word , because since we have a Bible , we can understand things about the here , the now and the afterlife . So we're going to give you a biblical perspective , because that is our worldview and that's our basis of what we believe . But I want to go back to the part where you said that death . You were scared of death . Can you talk to me a little bit more ?
Speaker 1Because I think there are some people that are scared of death . And even my mom . She fought such a good fight but coming up through the last days , maybe because she was in pain . But she would just tell some of my family just hold me you know , just hold me . I wouldn't say it was a fear , but maybe it was a pain , maybe it was a mix . But can you just talk about that fear that you had a little bit ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I , you know I will go into . When I was fighting cancer and I , there was a point that I became , I think , afraid of dying . I had these thoughts of the enemy just bombarded 24-7 with these really it was an attack of the enemy just you're going to die , you're going to die , you're going to die . And I knew that . I didn't want to believe that , but it was this personal fight that I had and I couldn't even bring myself to . I was fearful and I couldn't even bring myself to tell you about it because I didn't want to speak , those give into it yeah it was just like oh my gosh , what do I ?
Speaker 1do with this . It was a lie , but lies sound real when you're at your lowest , exactly .
Speaker 2And so in that time , what I had to do , I realized , oh my gosh , I'm afraid of death , I'm afraid of dying , and I had to examine why . I'm trying to talk to God and find out things . But one of the things that really helped me was that I began to say , okay , well , what am I afraid of If I did die ? What's going to happen ? Okay , I would go to heaven , I would be with Jesus , there's nothing wrong with that . And then I , what would happen to my husband , my kids ? Yes , they would mourn , but they would live , they have Jesus , they would be okay . So I had to be really real with what's the worst thing that's going to happen .
Speaker 2Now , another thing that really comforted me was , as far as just dying , what's going to happen is . I went back and started listening to other believers who had near-death experiences where they died , talked to Jesus , went to heaven , came back , and I heard so many . I mean they all sound the same , they see a light , they see family members , loved ones are welcoming them in . And then I heard a few people tell the testimony where they had a choice , and it's like I'm actually not a few , a lot of people . They had a choice Do you want to go back or do you want to stay and a ?
Speaker 1lot of them said I want to stay .
Speaker 2Yeah , they wanted to stay . In fact , one man came back and I'm kind of moved by his testimony because he came back . But he's been suffering from depression because he said he was crying , saying I don't want to be here .
Speaker 1I wanted to go back , yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , he , he did , he wanted to go back . And all of these things began to speak to me . I heard that you know , a lot of people say in their testimonies that they were given the choice to stay or go back , given the choice to stay or go back . And then I heard it dawned upon me that some of the people that I was believing for maybe you know they were loved ones , that I had some pastors and some people I know they were believers . Why did they die Like what happened ? Now ?
Speaker 2I'm like , oh my gosh , if they have the choice and wanted to stay , will they stay ? Can you imagine the amount of believers who would have an experience where they had the choice to stay with Jesus or come back to earth ? We don't know how good it is with him . And so it kind of changed my perspective as , in number one , when I do lose loved ones before their time and they were believers , oh wow , lose loved ones before their time and they were believers , oh wow , maybe they decided to stay . And then , number two , if I do , they're in a better place , they're in a far . They they describe the outer body experience .
Speaker 2I've heard people say , quote , unquote we think this is life and like what it feels like to be alive , they said once they lifted , they saw themselves above their own body , but they felt so real and so alive to all of their senses . They were like this is not living and it's almost like this indescribable , almost addiction that they had to this feeling of being out of their body and explaining what heaven was like . And when they saw loved ones , all of that totally changed my perspective of death and now I'm like , wow , I am not afraid to die . This is a promotion . This is someplace that we are all going . We want to be there one day . Now I don't want to go before . I need to be there . I want to finish my assignments in the earth .
Speaker 1We have a lot of purpose here , but I'm not afraid to die . I'm not afraid to die . We have a lot of purpose here . Don't want to die before my time . I'm not afraid to die , and it's just the revelation of what the afterlife and what heaven is like and how good God is , and he has things that are prepared for us .
Speaker 1The Bible is a very interesting read . I've been reading it now for over two decades and it doesn't give a whole lot of detail about heaven . It gives a little bit about the new Jerusalem and the streets that are made with gold and the pearl that's on the front gate and it gives some things that you're like , okay , that's kind of cool , and in my father's house there are many mansions , but it don't go to details . I believe we're going to be completely blown away by the atmosphere
of heaven and the new Jerusalem , to be more accurate , like a new heaven , a new earth is going to come later on and we will reign forever with Jesus in what will be like a new earth .
Speaker 1I just believe that that's going to be an amazing moment that no eye have seen or ear have heard Now , those people who've had that encounter and God let them come back to tell their story . Thank God for them . Yes and so , but that's the account of the people who are saved , those who accept Jesus , because I think you've also heard other accounts I know I have of people who were not saved and they had an out-of-body experience and it wasn't going to heaven , it was going to hell .
Speaker 2It's the opposite .
Speaker 1Can you talk to me about that a little bit ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , I mean , I've heard stories and testimonies of people who felt like they were falling , people who actually say that they have been in hell and they've experienced they say the smell that was so like you couldn't even it was so bad the smell , the sound of shrieking and crying and people crying out , and there were . I've heard several testimonies of that , but they all testimonies were saying that they called on Jesus and when they called on Jesus , and when they called on Jesus , they were snatched out . I actually have my own testimony of that . I was unsaved .
Speaker 2I was in college , in my maybe 21 . And I was laying down on a couch , like going to sleep , and I felt I was began to be suffocated . I couldn't breathe and I had this going on and off in my life . I didn't know what it was . I thought it was just something dark and evil , but I didn't know anything about God or anything . But I laid on my couch and I couldn't breathe and I saw my eye before like I was wide awake , and then I saw this just complete darkness come to the side of my eye and my face and after that it was just . I saw complete darkness and it was like a hand was over my mouth and I could not breathe and I fell myself , falling and falling and falling . So I just never stopped falling and I didn't know what to do .
Speaker 2I was terrified , but at the time I had been studying the Lord's prayer and I was in conversation with someone and they said what you don't know , the Lord's prayer . And I remember I don't know anything about God , I didn't grow up in church , I don't even know anything about Jesus . But they said well , this is the Lord's prayer . You got to know the Lord's prayer , you know , and I memorized the Lord's prayer right before that and I just started saying dear Father , which art in heaven , hallowed be thy name . And before I was done with that prayer I woke up . So terrified , I went upstairs , I told my roommate , but I didn't know at the time because a couple of years would go by before I would receive Jesus . I didn't know at the time , but I'm like Jesus . I thank you because I don't know . I could have died that night .
Speaker 1Wow , were you saying that prayer out loud or under your breath ?
Speaker 2I was saying it under my breath because I couldn't breathe .
Speaker 2In my heart , in my mind , I was calling on Jesus and the crazy thing that happened was this is crazy , but the night after that happened we had just had I don't know if it was before or happened one of our , a person who came in my freshman class , a young , you know , a young boy , had just died in his sleep and I thought I mean that terrified me . I was like , oh my gosh , is this ? Did this happen to him ? I don't know if it did or whatever , but I'm just saying it was such a wake up call for me .
Speaker 1Yeah , I want to give a little bit of theology , just a tad bit of perspective for the person that says well , why would a loving God send people to hell ? I always say that God doesn't send people to hell . People's rejection of the Savior sends them to hell , because hell was never created for people .
Speaker 2It was created for the devil and a third of the angels that rebelled against God .
Speaker 1However , hell is the place where God doesn't exist , so a person who says , no , I don't want God , I don't believe in Jesus . God gives us a free will , so he allows you to go to a place that he's not . Hell is the absence of God . God is light , so hell is dark . God is joy , so hell is painful . God is sounds of jubilee . Hell is sounds of gnashing of teeth .
Speaker 1And so , really , there's nothing in hell that you want . So to me , that doesn't scare me . It gives me more ammunition to preach the gospel . It makes me want to make sure that we preach this gospel around this nation for the rest of my life , until every single , every breath that I have , so we can depopulate hell and populate heaven .
Speaker 1Now back over to our segment , which is about grief , and so , for me , we look at death as a promotion , as a believer , as a graduation . So for the person that says I don't know if my loved one was saved , my advice to you would be well then , just pray and hope to God that they are , but at the same time , use that as motivation to make sure that all of your family members are saved Like I didn't know .
Speaker 1I don't think you know for sure about your dad . You feel like he was , but you don't know for sure you hope so , but now that should be a fire to where .
Speaker 1I'm going to make sure my brother , my cousins and everybody knows . I need to know for sure . Do you know Jesus ? Yes , and that's the motivation . So we can't change the past motivation . So we can't change the past , we can only change the present and the future . And so I mean we can get into all kinds of different things , because you know , my mom died after a good life , 69 years of just a good life . Then there's tragedies that happen , there are things that happen and you're like man , why did that ?
Speaker 2happen .
Speaker 1I mean I remember when I was in ninth grade my best friend killed himself and I mean , looking back on it , I mean you know we've all dealt with a level of that . You know your brother Tabitha has two brothers . Most people know the one but the one who's not living any longer . He took his life by suicide , maybe what ?
Speaker 1was that five , six years ago , you know . So we've had that . I've had best friends of mine . One died of brain cancer , One just died , so it was a slow thing . Another one just died instantly . These are guys from my wedding party . We all have to come to the place where we look death and we look in our Bible and we say , God , give me a perspective of this . For the things that I don't understand , I put my palms up and say God , nevertheless , I trust you , but for what your word says , I believe you for your word , and so for me , I wanted to share with people a little bit of perspective and a few scriptures that I stood on . Now I had to do something that I never thought that I would do , and that was preach my mom's funeral and honestly , it was a great celebration of life . It was my relatives . They had a great celebration of life .
Speaker 2It was .
Speaker 1My relatives . They had a choir and they brought joy .
Speaker 2I don't think it could have gone better . They brought joy .
Speaker 1They brought perspective . Yeah , and it was tough . It was tough . I mean I literally the next couple of weeks you could feel the absence of my mom . You could feel that her energy was no longer here . It's so weird . It was almost like every Sunday after I preach I get a text man , that was good , because she's watching online that wasn't there any longer . I couldn't respond to text any longer . So it's okay to grieve . I always tell people please grieve , but we don't grieve like those who have no hope . When I preached her funeral , there was a few scriptures that I went over and I wanted to share them with our audience today and hopefully this will bring some comfort to you . John 11 , 25 through 26, . It says Jesus said to her I am the resurrection and the life . He who believes in me , though he die , he shall live , and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die . And then he said do you believe this ? Is there anything ? Anything you know ? I just want to see . I'm gonna read a few .
Speaker 2I love that . Never die , because we don't , you know , we it's just like our bodies die . We are a spirit , we have a soul , right , and we live in a body . Our bodies die right but our spirit lives on .
Speaker 1We are a spirit well , we always say that the real part of us is our spirit , it is not the earth , and so that's why racism is whack , and you know it's just . You're judging me based upon my earth . You're judging me based upon my melanin , but I'm more than my melanin .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 1So the spirit part of us and our soul will go on , and so what Jesus to me is saying is that if you believe in me , you shall never die , so eternal life doesn't start when you leave your body Eternal life starts when you accept Jesus and when you say , jesus , I confess you , I believe in you , come into my life .
Speaker 1Eternal life starts for you now . So , even though your body is going to fade away and you're going to get a new body , you keep on living and I think that that brings a level of comfort . Like those who are saved , my mom didn't die . She transitioned , she graduated . She didn't cease from existing . She still exists . She just transferred realms .
Speaker 1She went from the natural to the spiritual . What do you take from this ? 1 Thessalonians 4.13 , it says but I don't want you to be ignorant , brother , concerning those who've fallen asleep , lest you sorrow as though who have no hope . One translation says so that you don't grieve like those who have no hope .
Speaker 2Yeah , I love what you just said . It's like it's not that we're not going to grieve . We should grieve . We will miss mom . You know we will miss everything about her . But it's not for us to be hopeless . It's not like a sad like oh my gosh , this is something terrible that happened . It's just like , wow , I wish I could hear her voice again , but actually I will . But just in , you know , in another , in another life , so to say , our relationship isn't over , it's just maybe paused for a moment .
Speaker 1For those of you all who have lost loved ones , the revelation is this is that if they died in Jesus , they're having a good time , absolutely . Now you might be sad , but they're having a good time . They're having the best time of their life . They're worshiping , they're meeting , they're seeing other family members . There's no pain , there's no sorrow , and when you understand that , you grieve .
Speaker 1Yeah but don't grieve for the rest of your life , don't ? What I'm saying is that there comes a place I don't know if it's three months , four months , I can't give you a time but there shouldn't be like this man . Three years go by and I've still got this depression and this weight and this anxiety . I feel like then you're grieving like the world .
Speaker 1You're not grieving like a child of God , Because a child of God that grieves another child of God . I miss you , but I know you better off than me . Yes , you know , Paul said it this way . It's it's , it's it's game for me to die , but it's , you know , for me to stay . You know what I'm saying . What he's saying is better for me to go , but because I got purpose , I'm going to stay with you . So listen , if you're going to grieve , you're not grieving that your loved one got promoted . You're grieving the fact that you still here . You still here and you without them for a season . But I'm going to get over that grief because I realized that it's short Right .
Speaker 2I mean when you think about you know we're all sons and daughters of God and when we go , when we are elevated to heaven , when you think about the family members that you will see again , the friends who will be there to greet you . You know , when you finally transition , it's going to be amazing Like you're going to be able to see those people again .
Speaker 1My mom always loved family reunions . She established our family reunion , the Tucker Dobson family reunion , on her side 44 years ago and it's still going strong today . She's now having a dope family reunion , absolutely . 2 Corinthians 5.8 says this we are confident , yes , well-pleased . Rather to be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord .
Speaker 2I think that's . It is what it is To be absent from the body . It is what it says . So , as a believer , you know again we don't cease to exist , but we are with Jesus .
Speaker 1Revelations 21 and four says and God will wipe every tear from their eyes , there shall be no more death , nor sorrow , nor crying .
Speaker 2Now that's the part that I love , because sometimes when we have loved ones , especially if they've been in accidents or maybe they were sick before they died , and sometimes we just see them in this almost fallen state , in their sickly state , we see them maybe broken , hooked up to machines and tubes and things like that , and that is sad , that is grieving , like the world grieves , but we have to understand that there's no tears in heaven where they are . They have new bodies , they're dancing , they're singing If they couldn't walk on earth dancing . They're singing If they couldn't walk on earth . They're running now If they were crying on earth . There's no sadness in heaven where they are . So I think sometimes it's like we can just see them for where they were in this earth realm , they're not here anymore .
Speaker 2There's something greater and more fantastic than we could ever imagine , and they are a part of it . Yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , you know , I think a question is what if they died , even though you prayed for them ? And I think that's a big one , and I think that that's why some people turn away from the faith , because they prayed and they didn't get what they wanted . And I'll say it again You've got to be humble enough to know that you don't know everything and you don't understand everything .
Speaker 1And when stuff doesn't go how you want it to go , the most humble , faithful thing you can do is put your palms up like this and say , nevertheless , lord .
Speaker 2I trust you .
Speaker 1But one scripture that I stood on , that I shared at my mom's celebration of life , is from Hebrews chapter 11 , 13 . So Hebrews chapter 11 begins to talk about faith and it starts off in verse one . It says now , faith is the confidence in the things that you hope for , assurance about what you don't see , or vice versa , assurance and confidence . Then it goes on to Hebrews 11 , six and it says now , without faith , it's impossible to please God , for he who comes to God must believe that he exists and rewards those who diligently seeks him . So Hebrews 11 is really a setup about what real faith is . Then , after that , it starts to go into what many would call the hall of faith , and the hall of faith is basically great people from the Bible that did great things by faith , how this person was raised from the dead by faith . This person received their children back to life by faith . This miracle that happened by faith , this healing that happened by faith .
Speaker 1But then it says something very interesting in Hebrews 11 , 13 . It says these all died in faith , not having received the promise . So basically , it was talking about all these people that received the promises , but then some people didn't receive the promise . But having seen them afar off . We assured of them , embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims in the earth . And so what it's saying is that there were some people in the part that I—oh , verse 13, . It says these died in faith . Not having received the promise , they died in faith , and when I read that , I said when I die , I want to make sure that I die in faith . I don't want to die in worry , angry at God , skepticism bitterness and any of that If we're going to die , let's die in faith .
Speaker 1You know , the good news about my mom is that she died in faith . She died standing on the word of God .
Speaker 2And watch this . I can't make a healing come . I'm the mailman , I deliver the package , but I can't make the package . God is the one who heals .
Speaker 1And so all I can do is believe in what he said .
Speaker 2My mom was a giant in the faith .
Speaker 1She believed it . Four years of pain , four years of suffering , four years of doctor's trips . She stood on the word of God , and I'm happy to say that she didn't see the full manifestation this side of heaven , but she died in faith and she's with Jesus now , where there's no more sickness or sin or pain , and so I think that it's very important for people to hear that we can actually just keep standing in faith . I can't make anything happen . All I can do is make sure that I'm in faith at the end of my life , and so , for me , that's going to be my posture . That's going to be my posture , and I believe we love healing .
Speaker 1We love the gifts of the Holy Spirit . Even if you look at it statistically , there's a percentage of people that are healed and percentage of people that aren't healed . Yet we don't know , why .
Speaker 1That does not mean we don't contend for healing . I keep believing , I keep prophesying , I keep declaring for God's best and the more that I celebrate what he's doing , I see that percentage go up . But for those who maybe we don't see the full manifestation , I'm okay with saying God , I still trust you , and so I trust God with all of my relatives and my family and friends , and that's my perspective . Do you have anything else you wanted to add that could bring comfort to people who are dealing with grief ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I would say that kind of yeah , you know . So what happens when a loved one dies that you know believe . You know , like mom you said , you know she had faith and you know we were believing for the opposite , but that didn't happen . I'm going to still trust God . I'm going to go on living life . I'm going to still praise God .
Speaker 1Yeah , Still worship God , still serve God and actually turn up more .
Speaker 2Yeah , she loved God .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2She wasn't angry with God , she didn't blame God for her situation . She was totally okay with the Lord , and so I'm going to follow her example .
Speaker 1She left a legacy . She left a legacy .
Speaker 2She left a legacy of faith .
Speaker 1She would always send these long texts and at the end say God got me .
Speaker 2God got me , god got me and God got her Very true ?
Speaker 1Well , we're out of time for today . Sweetheart , I think this was really good . I would really encourage our audience to share , share , share , share , share , share .
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