Since We Last Spoke with Danny Foxworth
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Since We Last Spoke with Danny Foxworth
Kon Knueppel Opened My 3rd Eye feat. Rod from The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast
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On this episode, Danny brings back friend of the pod, Rod from The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast! They discuss the Hornets turning the corner, Getting flown out to podcast conventions, Rod's fitness journey, their encounters with Anthony Mason, The Vrabel/Russini saga, meeting DMX, Rod's favorite meal from his Mom and MUCH more!
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Intro-Late Night Jam by Infrared Krypto
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What is good, good people? You and I listening to another episode of Since We Last Woke with Danny Foxworth. I am your humble narrator, Danny Foxworth, and look, man, this man needs no introduction. He's an extremely special guest, but I mean, look, bro. He's the pod father. Period point blank. You know him, you love him, the one and only. Rod from the Black Guy Who Tips Podcast. Rod, how you doing this evening? Great, bro. Appreciate you uh hitting me up, man. Absolutely, man. And there was a lot of things that took place, and I was like, you know what, this is a perfect time to get him back on because, you know, first and foremost, you're Charlotte Hornets, man. Like, it's I'll be the first to admit, man, it's always good when the Hornets are good again. And uh yeah, they they've really they've really exceeded expectations, and I tell you what, since Jordan sold the team, it's like this team is just slowly trending upward, man. So you as a diehard Hornets fan, slash season ticket holder, I might add. And how is it, how's the I know the state of affairs with your team is gotta be, it's gotta be uh satisfying.
SPEAKER_00Bro, it's it's it's nothing but up, bro. Um first of all, shout out to Michael Jordan, because like he went in NASCAR races. It's like he let the Hornets go be free, and then he got to be free and do what he really loves. Um, because I'm sure he's spending money on that NASCAR team. And uh, you know, they ain't doing nothing but winning, uh winning left and right over there. And then with the Hornets, the new ownership group, man, they they really are trying to turn into a first-class organization. I feel vindicated because I've always said that Charlotte is a basketball city. I was here in '88 when the hive first came alive off of Tavola. And it was like, I remember as a kid being like, man, I want to be a part of this. You know, like every time you get got to go to a game, it's like you're so damn happy just to see see the team and be around that experience. And, you know, basketball had kind of uh the the atmosphere died a little bit in Charlotte because of all the ineptitude. So seeing them get some final, finally some good luck, because that's really all it was. It was just, and I know people hate to hear that excuse, like part of it is just obviously your ownership, but a big part of this is just injury luck. And they have been like the most injured team in the NBA for like three years, you know, once you add it up, because yeah, but they were never the most injured, but they was always like the top three every year. So like Memphis will have a year, but then they be back to Memphis or whatever. We was just like, bam, no one's ever gonna be healthy. And so they finally got a little bit of health this year, and uh they look so much better. I've just been super excited for them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and especially with the addition of your coach Charles Lee and him just laying that foundation and you the uh the players really just buying into what he's selling, and it's just it's really been it's really been a uh really been fun to watch, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and the fans like like, man, you gotta come back to a game now that we good. Because like it's been sellouts in there every day, and it's like real sellouts, you know what I'm saying? Like you sitting next to people sweating, everybody up yelling. It's been fun not having the um the other team fans in there as the majority some nights, you know, and and that even happened with like New York. Boston was 50-50, I'm not gonna lie. Boston was 50-50, but uh it was fine. That was the same night we all found out Duke lost, and everybody got super excited. Uh, but yeah, man, it was it was super fun in there. And you gotta, I know you've been there before, but uh definitely want to come gotta come back now. And then maybe, you know, instead of watching the OKC blowout, Shea sitting in the fourth, we might get to watch an actual, you know, full NBA game.
SPEAKER_01And also, yeah, that's right, because y'all also they did renovations at the Spectrum Center. So I haven't been to I haven't been inside the arena since they did the renovation. So yeah, that's that's even more incentive now on top of that.
SPEAKER_00Bro, they got two dollar hot dogs, two dollar sodas. Like, it's they really like they they took some cues from the other places where the owners are getting good reviews and was like, Well, what if we just did that here? And it's it's done a world of difference, man. Like, it really is a fun place to watch a game. And I think, you know, and I know you're a big proponent of this, uh, but getting out into real life and seeing games is so much better than sitting on the internet complaining about salary caps or whatever the fuck else it is that people do that they consider fanhood, dude. Like, I I I don't even regret watching bad basketball the last three years because I it's basketball. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really have an informed opinion about my team and the NBA. Like seeing people do their thing in real life, dude. It's certain, it's certain stuff you that you just get and you be like, yeah, they can't communicate that on TV. Um, little nuances and stuff. So I think it's actually made me a more improved NBA fan going to games than it would have been if I, you know, would have just watched it on TV and then tried to evaluate from that. It's fun, you know what I'm saying? It's obviously a privilege to be able to go, but man, like, even the way I feel about other people, humans, is affected by me going to games. Like, you remember, like, nah, this is what it's like when you like can disagree over something that's that's not even a deal breaker. Like, you came here to watch your your your Sixers, okay. I came here to watch the Hornets, but we haven't fun messing with each other, and it's all in good spirit and love. And I feel like, man, at least to me, social media have made me feel like that was very rare these days when really it's it's actually common. Go to a damn game and you won't care about a lot of this stuff.
SPEAKER_01That's real. And, you know, I don't get to see the Hornets on TV that much because, you know, League Pass, I'm in South Carolina and all of the Hornets games are blacked out. But like they uh periodically they'll show the Hornets games on on uh this like antenna TV down here. And I was like, okay, so this this is this is cool. They'll have they'll probably show probably about I'll say probably about 12 games a year. So it's always cool whenever I get to actually see them on um and the new owners are trying to change that too.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Because like that's a big deal, bro. Like they like when people talk about stuff the NBA can improve on, that's definitely one of the things they can improve on. Just the general access to the product. Like, it can be confusing. I don't care about the streaming stuff. The streaming thing ain't that confusing to me, where it's like, is it on Prime or Peacock? Like, you can Google that and see that in two seconds. But like, if I live a state below y'all, I don't have an NBA, why is your game ever blacked out? You know what I'm saying? Like it should always be free for me. I'm like the crackhead y'all trying to get, you know what I'm saying? You should make me want to spend money to drive there and go see that shit. So yeah, man, I'm I'm I uh I I I know next year the the contract with FanDuel Sports is over because they're going bankrupt or something. And I know that these owners have endeavored to put games on antenna TV. Like this year, I think they did like 12 or something. They need to keep that up. Like, cause honestly, that's one of the things that got me hooked as a kid was turning to WJZY and being able to watch my favorite team on channel eight. Like, that just that was different than being like, let me go to Fox Sports South. What channel is that, you know, that's oh, it's blacked out tonight, or let me check the league pass. Okay, you can't watch it here, but you can't online. Like, nah, let's get it simple again. I think you'll get more fans for life.
SPEAKER_01Completely agree. You took me back, man. That's when they first, that's when they were an expansion team. I'm like, yeah, because they used to show them down here in Charleston on WTAT channel 24. Shout out to VHF and UHF. And every night without fail, I'd be sitting right there watching the Hornets. But last thing I want to say about the Hornets, man. Khan Kanipple, man, he's truly been a revelation for this team.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, bro. Yeah. One thing about me, man, I'm a Carolina fan through and through, but I learned probably 20, 30 years ago. I let it go when they graduate. I know a lot of people don't. They be trying to carry that hate into the afterlife. But once you get to the NBA, it's too, it's too much of a professional league for me to hold that because you could bend up on my team, and I'm not hating my team. I'm sorry. That's just that's misery for no reason. I wouldn't even participate in that. So, like, when we drafted them, I would, I had no hate in my blood. Now, a lot of folks in my area, they was on some like, I can't believe they're taking this dupe boy. And I had seen this kid play in the tournament, the ACC tournament last year without Cooper Flag, because Cooper was hurt. And he was carrying that team. And I said, Hey, he was, buddy might be like that. Like, I like that shit opened my third house. I was like, hold up, they got two of them. You know what I mean? If like people be mad at their coach because he keeps going out to tournament without winning championship. I was like, Y'all should have been mad at him last year. Y'all trying to be mad at him this year, last year, y'all should have been mad because he never really activated Cooper Flag and Khan Knipple at the same time. It felt like one of them got to really show everything they could do, and then Cooper just got relegated to hitting shooting threes. Anyway. So I think figure dude was good. And then, Danny, I can say this here with you, man. But I was a little racist uh to my own team. I'm not gonna lie, man. I the argument at the time was we knew VJ Edge Comb wasn't dropping us past the sixers, but you know, I I would understood they drafted him. I like that kid. But they started throwing in like Ace Bailey and Trey Johnson. Trey, I'm sure they both good kids, man. But like looking at what our team needed, man, I said, man, we gotta get a little whiter. You know what I mean? Like, I don't I don't mean that, I don't necessarily mean it racially, but I do mean it culturally. Like, we needed a little more button up handshake dudes on the team. Cause like if there was a real criticism of the team, I just felt like they needed to grow up a little bit. Like, just just it's a job, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love those dudes, man. I love having fun, but winning is the ultimate fun. And if you out there on clown time and we losing, like, it's still miserable to people. They're gonna be like, why didn't Lamelo throw that alley oop? They was they the clock was running, they you know what I mean? They just needed to get filed, and then they lost the game off of that bullshit. And so I like that about Khan and all the dudes they drafted, really. They some they serious pros. And so when homie got on the court, like I remember telling, I told my wife, I told Justin, I was just like, hey man, I know it's racist, bro, but we need this cultural whiteness. We need this shit. That like he's gonna help the team be serious. And I feel like he throw that out, man. Like, that's a very he's told you the game very seriously, super tough on himself, doesn't really give a fuck about the accolades, which is crazy. When you lead the league in threes as a rookie, you would think you could take a moment to be like, yeah, I did that. I'm one of them ones, I'm here now. And he's never like that. Like, he's never too high, never too low, regardless of the circumstances or the outcome. And if they lose, he don't give a damn what he did. Like 40 points, 20 points, 30 points, none of that shit matters if they take an L. And I like that attitude, man. I need that because I think that's how teams grow up. I don't think he's gonna. I love LaMelo, but he gotta have some grown-ups on there with him, or it's just gonna be AAU ball, and and they can't they can't afford to do that and win.
SPEAKER_01And then recently, you and Karen were reaping the uh benefits of your podcast in labor, and y'all got invited out to Podjam out in Las Vegas, man. So share with us what that experience was like. Was that your first time going to Vegas?
SPEAKER_00Definitely my first time, and it was it was funny because it was actually in Henderson, Nevada, but it's so close to Vegas that it was basically Vegas. I guess it's like a 20-minute ride to Vegas, but yeah, man, that was super fun. We, you know, we an old watch couple, so we didn't do nothing crazy, man. We just we took a tour of the strip. I tried to do a gamble gamble at a slot machine and couldn't even figure it out. I felt dumb as hell. I still don't know what I did wrong, man. I I should have watched a YouTube video or something first because I was just hitting buttons like, what about this? Bet up, bet down, okay, cash out. I hit cash out, gave my dollar back. I left the dollar on the damn machine and said, this this should go to somebody that know how to use it, go to a good home. But yeah, we had a good time out there, man. The strip was was fun. It was during the daytime, so it wasn't like us experiencing like the full thing, but man, it's a lot of like flashy lights and hustles and you know, built beautiful buildings and stuff. It's water everywhere, which just feels like a huge waste of money, and it it costs money. It must be it's such a flex when the casino just has water for no fucking reason in that desert. So uh yeah, man, but it was it was a good time, man. And the podcast and pie jam, all that went good. All the people showed up. It was it was dope to have like fans come out that wouldn't have got to see us if we wouldn't have been able to make it out to Las Vegas because it's not something that we've done before, and we never know until we go somewhere if we have fans there for sure. So seeing people show up and and show out for us, man, it was a great feeling.
SPEAKER_01Man, that's awesome. And I just I again I love seeing y'all put in the work and then you get recognized for your hard work and the years that y'all put in with this podcasting thing and getting invited. Like, I mean, because that's not your first invitation to like podcast conventions and stuff. So matter of fact, what was your uh first invitation to a um big podcast shending such as that one?
SPEAKER_00So the first thing we ever did was we went to AwesomeCon in DC because my man Chris from the Insanity Check podcast invited us up, and we were just gonna talk about teenage uninjaws and some TV shows. And that was actually when we realized, oh snap, this show has actually reached a lot of people because a lot of people came out to that panel and they said they came for just me and Karen because I didn't really I don't look at us like like that. Yeah, we they coming to see us. I don't really think like that. Uh and it's really more for my mental health, it's not really even like I'm such a humble guy, it's just I would be I don't want to ever get so full of myself that I'm crushed if nobody shows up to see me. You know what I mean? I want to be able to be like, hey man, I that was a fun thing I did. And if people show up, it's a bonus. But um, so we got off stage, man, and them people was like waiting for us to sign stuff. And I was like, wait, what? Like, why would y'all uh want or need anything signed by us? We're not our comic book artist or whatever it is at this convention. And so that was the first place we realized we had fans. But the first place that like flew us out was Revolt Con, the one that uh Diddy and them used to put on. We didn't, hey, we never ran into Diddy. We ran the DMX in the elevator, but we never ran into Diddy. I just want people to know we never partied with them, we never saw nothing. But we went out and ate sushi and went to Cuban restaurants and did a bunch of uh lame Mary shit. But uh that was like our first time, like really in the big time that we was on a panel with Combat Jack rest in peace. I mean shit, DMX. Yeah, Combat Jack was there. Uh Bomani was there. He wasn't even on the panel, he was just there uh chilling. He came actually came through to hang out with us in Combat Jack and shit. Wow. Nori was there, DJ Fing was there. Um, and there was a couple other like big time podcasters there, and it felt good to be in that room because um we got to be the little engine that could, because people was asking those people questions about podcasting, and they could only really give their experience. And it was, you know, you got a million listeners until you get a million downloads, don't even think about advertising. And then me and Karen was just like, yeah, so we probably get like 10,000 listeners, and you definitely should advertise because you like take the money you can get while you can, because if you're gonna wait for this magical number that's never coming, you ain't never gonna be nothing. Yeah. And you know, like, oh man, you gotta sign a deal with this type of company. And then we're like, actually, you can just like monetize through PayPal or Patreon, and uh, you get enough people giving you five dollars, that's actually enough for you to bank your rent. And once you got that point, you can move like this or start your own LLC, blah, blah, blah. So it was weird, but watching the panel, all these big stars are there, and you watch the audience slowly drift to us, like, wait a minute, I can't be Comeback Jack, but I can be Rod of Karen if I listen. And there's a lot of students there and stuff like that, aspiring podcasters. And man, you should have seen after the um show was over, like it's people waiting to talk to folks. And man, when you seen how many people was waiting to talk to us versus them, it's it's crazy, man. Like what we built, I really appreciate it. But I I think it's it's relatable to people because it's not no airs about it, and it was built before you know the podcasting celebrity boom, where like you get a podcast, but it's because you the wide receiver on the Jets. That's different than just the gift of gab.
SPEAKER_01So, man, just backtrack just a minute. You talked about meeting DMX. Please, what was that experience like?
SPEAKER_00Man, so we get in the elevator or to go to our to come go down to the street, and like the elevator gets stopped right before we about to hop on, and this beautiful woman and DMX, the short, the short dude to hop on, and um, you know, all the stuff is running through my head. I'm like, because DMX life, people forget how messy it was. I'm like, is he married? Like, are we in here with this side chick? Actually, you know what? Not my business. And so I just I straightforward, and I'm not, I'm not the type to um harass a celebrity or to press them too much in public. Because I, you know, as an empath and an introvert, I kind of think to myself, like, man, would I want somebody approaching me? Like, I don't really know what kind of mood this brother's in, blah, blah, blah. So I'm sitting there, Karen's sitting there. If y'all know Karen, man, she's full of smiles and hugs and love energy. And so we sitting in the elevator going down, and DMX just uh, and you know, it like he comes in to Karen's just like, you know, excuse me, baby, what floor you want to go to, baby? Blah, blah, blah, sweetie, no problem. I don't even know if she knows he's DMX. I'm like, like she just she just like that to everybody. And it was such a disarming energy, like that the woman he was with didn't have no, like, it wasn't no issues because it's not like she was trying to holler at DMX. It was just a very motherly type energy. And then DMX just, well, we're on the elevator and it's very quiet. He just goes, like, Pardon me, I just want to say, you have beautiful energy. But to Karen, he's like, he's like, he was like, I don't mean no disrespect. You know, I was like, no, it's not no disrespect. I was like, I agree. She does, she has beautiful energy. I was like, that was amazing. We got out the elevator. I was like, DMX said you have beautiful energy, you know what I mean? Like, that was so cool. So, yeah, that's the one experience we had uh with DMX, man. And I it was it was super fun, man. Oh, and I forgot to mention during the podcast panel, Nori crashed the party. So we was having a panel, and this nigga just bust in drunk with a mic and just started talking, yelling at us from the crowd, like halfway through, asking questions and everything. It was it was crazy in there, man. That was a fun time podcasting-wise, and being and like they had us at the La Fountain Blue, like they was paying for everything. Bruh, it was it was like treat they treated us nice, man, flew us out and everything. We had a driver for the first time, like I forget which episode we talked about it, but I'm sure RevoltCon recap or something is in there. Search that for the Black Ove Tips if y'all want to hear a bunch of stories about us in Miami, because man, that was a good time.
SPEAKER_01Man, I gotta tune in to that, man. And Nori, golly. Him drunk with a mic, boy. That he's a he's it's it's it can be excessive at times.
SPEAKER_00It was a lot of energy, dude. He took that shit over, but I mean, but it was fun. The audience loved it and everything. He's like, hey, yo, Rod and Karen. And then that was the other thing. Every time we seen him the rest of the time with the La Fountain Blue, he would just yell across the room, yo, Rod and Karen. Like, what's up? Like, what's up, Nori? Like, it was man, that shit was super fun, man. Make some noise Rod and Karen, goddammit. Yeah, like straight up, he was doing that shit, bro. Like, we would just be in the hallway, like just random people, like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, they don't know us. But every every hour is happy hour for that dude.
SPEAKER_00At least he's a happy drunk.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Yeah, man. Hey, that's that's true. That's a nice that's perspective right there. Come on. So now that's another thing I want to talk about, because I've been just watching you over the years on social media and just seeing the work that you've been putting in, like physically and mentally. And man, you've really just been had your just digging your feet in the ground with this fitness journey, man. And you really been putting in the work, man. First and foremost, I want to say I'm extremely proud of you, bro. Thank you. I've been watching the progress. So talk to us about what what uh absolutely. So just share with us what uh what prompted that fitness journey.
SPEAKER_00Man, honestly, dude, coming out of the pandemic, my health was just a lot like it was worse than we went in. Cause when I like I've always been a bigger guy, but like when I was before the pandemic, I was playing basketball four or five times a week. And so I it didn't matter to me if somebody like, oh, are you fat? I'm like, that's fine. I know that I can't. Can get up and down this court. I know that I can bump your ass around. And I'm and it was like the most fun exercise I had, you know, was playing ball, and you you kind of get that camaraderie with people, you get to know people and stuff. So I really had a good time doing that. But then during the pandemic, you know, basketball shut down. And so I really was sitting around doing like nothing health-wise for uh like a year and uh a little bit over some changes. Basketball never came back to my Y, man. Like just people couldn't get their schedule together, people was working from home, so they weren't playing at lunch, blah, blah, blah. You know, I started by being like, all right, man, let me start taking some walks outside. And I was like, oh, you know what, man? Don't they got personal trainers and shit at the Y? So I went and I started getting my I got my Y membership back. Um walking and doing cardio stuff in there. And then I um I had always been intimidated of going into the weight room just because I didn't grow up really lifting weights like that. I took a weightlifting class a couple of times, but that was just for the credits for school. And uh I'm like, man, I walk by this weight room every day on my way to the track and to the gym, and maybe it's time to learn. And, you know, I had had a lot of thoughts about how the weight room would be intimidating because uh, you know, when you just consume social media, it's a night, it's nightmare fuel. So it would just show you, like, man, look at this motherfucker, they fat and they're working out. Ha ha ha. And I'm like, but that's what they supposed, y'all want them in there. Like, what y'all, y'all meant picking on people in there? You know, oh, he did the machine wrong. Hey, bro, go over and show them how to do the machine. Like, what like what's funny about that, dog? Help them out. And so uh that had got in my head, man. But man, it's nothing like that in there. Those, like, my stereotypes of the gym, jock slash bully, slash asshole, so wrong, bro. Like, I I've never been in a more positive environment other than a basketball court, man. Like, they leave you to your own devices. If anything, they might help you with something where they'd be like, oh nah, hold it like this. If you like, oh, you having problem with the squats, you have you tried to front hold, that kind of thing. People randomly will come over and be like, I see you in here working, man. You know what I'm saying? What you doing? Okay, cool, man. I see you losing weight, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And so, uh, and and and once I got the personal trainer, she starts showing me how to do weights. Now I had the confidence to go in the gym. I can go in any gym now, and I'm good. I can come up with six exercises that that I can do for an hour and some change and and come out feeling good. And what it's done for my mental health has been amazing because just that time of focus, getting something accomplished, setting a goal, doing hard things. Like it was just things that I think I had let slip in my life that now are back, and it's almost like therapy sometimes where you get that, you don't feel right, you don't get that gem. So it's like, hey, today was something was off balance. So I I knew something was up, and I I told my trainer when I got when I first got her on. This has been about two years now, but I said, I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life. Like, I don't want you to feel like this is a thing where like in six months I'm gonna just get tired of this shit. I was like, I mean that, and I need you to give me the tools to do it the rest of my life. Like, you might not always be my trainer, but I need you to help me so that I'll never not go to the gym. And so now I'm at the point where if I don't go to the gym in two within two days, I really be feeling like like if what am I am I being lazy? What am I doing? What's wrong with me? I never thought I'd be that guy, man. I I thought I would always only feel that way about basketball, but uh yeah, man, it's it's been dope and then sharing it online and stuff, man. Like, people, once again, people have been super supportive and positive. And that's in the today's internet where you know people be saying crazy stuff to people. And I've only ever gotten a couple people that said anything bad, and uh, and anybody and everybody else, it they all just want to help. You know what I mean? So like I try to look at that in a positive light. Like I remember one lady left a one well, first of all, one dude left a comment on TikTok where he was like, Hey, Unc, you gotta get get down a little further uh on your squad. And I said, Hey bro, we we gotta trade knees. You sound like a man talking with you sound like a man talking with 25-year-old knees to about 50 year old brother. This is down, you know what I mean? It might not look like down to you, but this shit is down, I promise. Uh, and another woman gave me like 37 tips on like lifting heavy. I don't I don't know. She was just like, she was locked in that day. I went to my Instagram because I don't check it often, but I went to my Instagram, I was like, it's nine comments from one lady. It was all like, listen, if you you don't worry about doing 135 10 times, if you could do 185 three times, that's all you got to do. I said, This woman is evangelizing up in here, but once again, I I converted that into positivity. Like, no, she just wants me to do the best, and she's a trainer too. But I was like, I will do whatever my trainer tells me to do, but I appreciate that y'all putting in. But yeah, bro, thank you. And I appreciate folks, you know, leaving positivity and saying positive things about it because you know, I feel like so much negative stuff gets to people and they hold on to it forever. I'm trying to change that in my brain so that I hold on to the positivity. Right on. So, how much weight have you lost? So now my doctor was just saying this 78 pounds or something like that so far. No shit. Yeah, because like I kind of stalled out over the last month or two because uh I hurt my hip in December, so I really wasn't able to do much. And then I got back to working out, you know, your body starts to adjust because you know, your body's like, man, what are you doing? You're trying, you're making some changes. Like, is are we going through like a some sort of uh and so it actually starts fighting your body back to be like, no, let's hold on to this this weight. And so I stalled out, but I never stopped working, and so I just started losing weight again. And my, you know, my doctor, we because I was like, yo, I haven't lost weight like the last six months or so. It's just the same numbers, up and down just a little bit, but still within the same range. And she was like, No, it's it's fine, like just keep working out. And then they had this test at the Y called the in-body test, where you stand on a machine and it sends like current through your body, nothing that can shock you, but a little current through your body so it like tells your skeletal frame, your muscle mass, all that. And so uh the last one I did, even though my weight was the same, I had gained two pounds of muscle and lost two pounds of fat. And my trainer was like, Yeah, that's fine. Like, don't don't worry so much about the scale, worry about the work. So, but I'm still but I still want to keep losing. Like, I still have uh way more to go, man. But I'm not pressed about just that number. But uh, but you know, it means something. Honestly, more than the weight, it meant something when I could go from like I was wearing like a X to like a 3X. I was like, man, no, I was like, I was like, hold up, I got new shopping options. I was I was looking at a lot of grayed out boxes on these sites, like, damn, I wish they had that joint. Now I'm like, hey, I can I can s it might be a little snug, but I could I could if I can get it tall enough, I can slip into that thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, make it work. And another thing, you know, you in conjunction with the work working out, you know, with the as far as losing weight, you also have to have like changing your eating habits and stuff. Yes. And I noticed also, along with your workout videos, man, you've been posting some some real look like you've been chefing up some fire ass meals, man. So where did that come from?
SPEAKER_00Man, I've always cooked uh it since um since I started being at a work from home with the podcast, even when Karen had to go to work physically, she would have to leave the house just before it work from home. I would, at least in my house, man, I was just raised that like you do what you can to help out the house. It's not really a gender thing. You know, it's just whoever can do the thing, you do the thing. It might feel gendered up to people looking on the outside, but like if my mama could cut grass, she would cut grass. Like it's just we didn't really grow up in a house where it was like men eat steak, women, you know, eat salad. So I started cooking because I wanted to do something to help around the house while Karen was was physically leaving the house to work, and I had the time to do it, you know. Low-key cooking started before the working out. Okay. And so once I started cooking through these like HelloFresh boxes and stuff, because first I would look up recipes online, but I needed something where like I needed to expect to cook three to five times a week. So I started ordering these like meal plan boxes, blue apron, hello fresh, blah, blah, blah. And I started cooking those um three times a week. And once I started cooking, it made it so much easier for what food choices. Cause you know, what do you what's more than likely? I'm gonna go to a restaurant, had a discipline to only eat 600 calories, or I'm gonna make a meal at home that I know is 600 calories. You know what I'm saying? More than likely the making it at home is is gonna work because you know, restaurant, bro, you start, you eat two, three things, it's like, goddamn, you know, like I had a wing, you know what I'm saying? I had I had a deviled egg. Fuck, man. I had a like I could now I gotta get just lettuce or whatever. And so uh cooking was was and it's also like very therapeutic, man. It's it's a similar thing to going for a walk for me or going to the gym. Like it's a you set our goals, you accomplish it, you have a tangible thing to eat at the end, you're satiated. And so um that was it. And then I kind of escalated from there to like now I just keep certain staples in my house. And so I look up recipes or I see like stuff online and it'll give you an idea. I love like um, there's this dude, Herman, at home, that cooks stuff, the shred happens where they have these quick little TikTok almost like quick videos of how to make stuff, and it'll just give you like viral stuff. So, like if you keep wild rice, broccoli, and like boneless chicken breasts in your house, you'll always be good. Like, you just keep those three things because you're gonna always make you a little rice bowl or something, and uh that that's really what made me want to step it up. And to be honest, I'm not even cooking fancy. Like some people cook fancy, you know what I mean? Like tone. Tone from Firestarter, that brother, that's black Bobby Flay. Yeah, yeah, buddy. Like I he be cooking shit where I be like, bro, I don't think I have the scientific means to do what this brother just did. Like he flexed on the whole timeline with that shit, you know. Like, oh, broke out the sous vide, and uh I was about to say the same thing. Broke out the $3,000 machine. I'm like, brother, I don't even know. I'm uh the only thing expensive in my house is a PlayStation, brother. But uh, but that's the real so I don't I feel like my meals is like you can make them. If y'all you follow me on Instagram, Rod TV GWT, you see something I make, y'all can make it more than likely, because I'm not doing nothing too crazy. But uh yeah, man, I it's been cool, man. And yeah, people love to see the food too.
SPEAKER_01So what was the what was the um the most recent food that you cooked that you enjoyed the most?
SPEAKER_00Oh man, most recently. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna go with those rice bowls, man. I like once I figured out the pattern to them rice bowls, man, I've been loving those. Wild rice, easy. Just follow instructions on the on the thing. You could air fry or or like you know, stir fry or whatever, some broccoli. That's that's easy. And then the chicken, man, you like marinated and like if you have like sriracha, a little soy sauce, oyster sauce, dark soy sauce, maybe drizzle it with some honey or something, man. You cook that up, uh, put a little water, put a little um cornstarch in the sauce uh later on for later on. You cook the you go ahead, marinate it, cook those chicken um thighs. Once the chicken thighs are almost done, pour the sauce in there with them, or put a sauce in by themselves, let it thicken up, coat it in there. 20-minute meal and bangs every time. Chicken thighs are the easiest joints to cook. They don't miss the margin of error on the chicken thigh is so wide compared to the breast that I think I just mess with chicken thighs because of that. But yeah, man, so like that's a that's a real easy, fun meal to make. It's better than takeout, like it's better for your health than takeout, and a lot of times it tastes better and fresher than takeout. And so I try to cook stuff within that range.
SPEAKER_01That's real. So now we're going to get into the five question segment. And since you've been you've done the five question segment the last time you're on here, I'm gonna ask five completely different questions now. So, question number one Who is your all-time least favorite Hornets player?
SPEAKER_00Least favorite and oh, that's a good question. Alright, let me think of I gotta think about this one for a second. I don't want to say something shady, because I actually like this guy's game, and he was a great Hornet. But I met him in person once. I was a waiter at AHOP and I waited on his family on his table, his family. And uh he was a very wild boy. Rest in peace to Anthony Mason. Yeah. This is crazy. Yeah, uh, I was waiting on his table, and I came over there, and he was like, I was like, can I help y'all? You know, what would y'all like to order? Blah blah blah, or something to drink. And he's like, can motherfucking can Nick get some motherfucking orange juice? Crowd full of families. This this like eight, this like eight, nine in the morning on a on like a Saturday in Charlotte, families everywhere. It's like, let me get some motherfucking orange juice. Come on, nigga. I was like, hey, hey, I don't I don't have that type of job security to be this informal with you, player. And then he like uh ended up switching it because he wanted a woman waitress and not me as his waiter. So I ended up not finishing working on the table because he requested this white girl that worked with me. I was like, man, fuck Anthony Mason, dog. That was fucked up. I thought I was at least gonna get a good NBA tip. This nigga did me dirty. So probably my least favorite.
SPEAKER_01And you know what's it's crazy that his story and your story are almost similar with the with the belligerents. It was like I was like, wow, this like his track record with alcohol, based on your story, it tracks like a some bitch.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh, you know, once I got because I was so young at the time, I might have been 16, 17. So like once I got older, I was like, oh, he just had some demons that he was fighting. But, you know, to 17-year-old, I'm like, bro, you a grown ass man here calling me a nigga in front of these white people and cussing at me. And then you gonna get the white girl on the table? Like, bro, what was that? I thought I was your nigga. You just gonna throw me to the wolves for this white girl. I see.
SPEAKER_01Man, because I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever heard my Anthony Mason story? Nah, tell me, let me know the story. What what happened?
SPEAKER_01Okay, so, and I've shared this on the pod a couple times before, but back in the early 90s, when he was with the Knicks, the New York Knicks from like 91 to I'll say 93 or 94, they used to have their training camps at the College of Charleston. And uh they used to stay at the uh, what's the Omni Hotel back back then? It's the Charleston Place Hotel now. And me, my homie, Brian, and uh his mom, his mom took us down to the lobby to uh get autographs, and I might have been I was like 13 years old. Matter of fact, this was the same year I want to say that um the Knicks and Rockets played each other in the finals. Because they actually had a preseason game down here too at the North Charleston Coliseum. But anyway, him, he was walking out of the this was like one morning, and it was him, it was Charles Smith, and it was Anthony Bonner walking out in the lobby, and you could hear him like coming down the hallway. Just, I mean, you we were in the hallway, you could hear him at the front desk like raising hell about like the room service not being up to snuff. And after he gave the front desk an air full, they make their way like towards us. Now, Brian's mom is in the bathroom, and my goal was just to get an autograph from uh Anthony Mason. I was like, shit, that's them. And they're walking towards us, and we were so starved, we were just so awestruck. They walked, they walked past us, and we didn't say anything, but Brian is like nudging me, like, man, go get his autograph. So I walk up behind him and I tap Anthony Mason. Like I tugged like the bottom of his shirt, and he turns around. Bro, his eyes were about as red as a brake light. Like he like he had like blood, like his eyes were so bloodshot, and like you could smell that shit coming out of his pores. Because they walked the practice, their practice was practice facility is probably about three blocks away from the hotel. So I'm like, I'm I'm one of your biggest fans. Can I get an autograph? And he saw me, he just goes, Man, get the fuck out my face, kid. And he turned around and kept turned around and kept walking.
SPEAKER_00I was like, Huh? I believe it, bro. Like, I believe you, bro, because like he was so upset we didn't have alcohol at IHop. Because they don't serve drinks, they they just serve breakfast shit. He was like, Yeah, he was like that. I think that's what the start of the end for me at that table. Cause he's like, let me get such and such. I was like, Oh, we just have um orange juice and coke products. He was like, Well, goddamn, nigga, gonna get motherfucking orange juice? Something like that. I was like, oh, this nigga is mad. I didn't realize he needed it, you know what I'm saying? I just thought he was rude, but maybe that that shit was talking. Maybe he had needed a drink when he seen he was like, shit, I was gonna get something to drink, this little dude in my way.
SPEAKER_01Man, that was wild. Like that dependency just crept up to the surface like that. Question number two. What was your favorite field trip as a kid?
SPEAKER_00Favorite field trip, man. So this is an odd one as a kid to say, because you know, we went to stuff like uh carowins and shit like that. That's not really a field trip. You just having fun, the zoo. But man, my favorite one as a fucking young uh Huey Freeman ass nigga was uh when we would go to James K. Polk, and I would just ruin it because I would just be asking about slavery and shit. Cause the rest of them kids didn't, they didn't know, man. They thought shit was sweet. My parents had gave me what color was Jesus and before the Mayflower from the Black Book Fair when I was like eight. So I was loving that bitch like Chuck D. You know, it wasn't no, they was like, Oh, you want to see how we make griddle cakes? And I'm like, Who used to make the griddle cakes? Did the people that live in the big house make the griddle cakes, or was it the people that lived in the slave quarters making griddle cakes every morning? Was it a fun little adventure for them to make griddle cakes every morning? They was having fun like we having on the vacation. It was like, uh, you gotta calm down, son. But uh yeah, man, I used to love, I used to look forward to ruining everybody's day with that trip. Now, was uh James K. Pole? He was like a president, uh, one of the presidents from the South, and like his house is like right on the border of like maybe South Carolina, North Carolina. I think they even argue about it. Like they they be arguing, like, yeah, it's the is he was a North Carolinian, he was a South Carolinian, but yeah, he he also has slaves, so that was the only thing relevant to me. Like, where am I in this picture? You know what I'm saying? Give a fuck about this nigga.
SPEAKER_01That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00It was crazy because I was young, I don't even know why. Like, that's not good for a kid to think like that, but man, I was thinking like that way too early in life, man. I used to look forward to that trip. They took it every year. I'd be like, oh, y'all niggas don't even know about this slavery. Wait till we get there. I'm gonna tell y'all some shit.
SPEAKER_01Question number three.
SPEAKER_00What's your morning routine? Okay. So these days, since I work for myself, I can afford I can get up mostly when I want to get up. So I would say I typically am up by like 7:30, 8 ish, because uh that's when my wife gets ready to go do her job. But you know, so I sleep to kind of when I want to. I think the latest I've ever slept is like 10 because of these playoff games sometimes. Because I will stay up to watch these games, and then I'd be like, boy, the gym has to wait till noon, you know what I'm saying? Then I do gym or walk five to six days a week, and uh either go walk in the park for about an hour and some change. Man, walking outside in nature has really changed my life. I know it's corny, but it's real. We human beings, we supposed to be outdoors a little bit. I think I had like I definitely had a uh I was affected a lot by like social media and stuff during the pandemic. I used to take stuff so personal. Now I think back and I'll be like, I wouldn't even care. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like it's wild, but a big part of that perspective was my trainer was like, Have you tried walking outside? And she didn't realize I was gonna become like one of these people where like now I got the raincoat, you know what I'm saying? I got the I got the I'm I'm ready with the umbrella, you know, if it gets hot, I got the neck fan. Like I'll I'll be out there now. So I do do that or go to the gym and then do show prep. I pretty much am show prepping all day for our podcast. So um, if I've come across an article or something, try to read that, save that for later, construct notes, all that stuff. And then there's a bunch of like little stuff through the for the podcast that you have to do in the background that people don't necessarily know about, you know, your scheduling, communication, paying your taxes on your business, you know, all that type of stuff. So probably do a little bit of that type of stuff every day. Um, and then you know, at nighttime we record the show. And between our show and our spin-off shows, probably four to six days a week, we record something. And, you know, if I'm not careful, it'll be seven days a week after, you know, count it all. Like this week, I knew I was gonna do your show, and I knew I was gonna do these guys' MC University show. And so I made sure we didn't do like a sports show or something like that through these two days because I don't want to like double work or make Karen work too long and all this stuff because she still works from home full time sometimes. So, yeah, man, that's and that's most of my and then like watching sports, going to Hornets games, you know. If not, then we might maybe go out to eat uh one of our favorite restaurants or something once or twice a week. So that's that's basically the full schedule, man. It's not it's not really a routine, but it that's about the average things I do every day.
SPEAKER_01Right on. Question number four What's your favorite thing that your mom ever cooked?
SPEAKER_00Bruh, this is almost embarrassing because it don't really have a name. I bet it got a name, but me and my brother gave it a name, Slavery Chicken. Like I'm ashamed that we named it that. We shouldn't have named it that. But it that also tells you the tenor of my family. My family very funny and dark humored. And so the chicken is my mom, my mom, a very busy mom, like all black moms, you know, between working and cooking and all this other shit, you know, me and my brother help out, you know, thaw out the chicken, but we wasn't doing all that labor really. So she would cook and she would take these chicken quarters, put them over rice in like a casserole, take this like mushroom soup and make like this gravy type thing, lay that on top of it, bake that in the oven, come out ready to eat. It's just, you know, rice, gravy, chicken. And me and my brother, it was an easy meal. She used to make it a lot because she got a family with, you know, three men in it basically, and eating all the food and shit. And so uh she made that simple meal. And I remember we were like, Oh, mom, you made the slavery chicken again. And she got mad the first time we said that shit, boy. She said, What y'all calling? Like slavery chicken. And then I went to college as a freshman. I went away to school, I was like three hours away in Fairville. And Danny, I swear to God, brother, I ate it the cafeteria like two terms, and I was like, I want some slavery chicken. Like, this is like this shit. I don't care if it's fried, whatever. This is some bullshit. I miss slavery chicken. And when we came home for fall break, we had an early fall break that was just a couple days. My boy John Smith, who's from Charlotte, he drove, he was like, You want to ride with me? We drove in the middle of the night to Charlotte. We we went first we went the wrong way to Wilmington because then it couldn't read just because we had never been nowhere, man. We was confused and shit. We was like, Charlotte, well, let's see, Charlotte's to the east, right? So we we motherfucking got on highway going east in Fairfield, and then it was like 20 minutes from Wilmington. I was like, I think we went the wrong way, and then we just he did like 90 all the way back at like three in the morning. And we got to Charlotte, man, and I got home at like one in the morning, got to the house, and you know, my mom was up, and I was like, Mom, I would love some slavery chicken. And she she was she made some, bro. It was so good, bro. That's my favorite thing my mom makes. And she makes a lot of more complicated, I'm sure better tasting stuff. You know, they they got some meals. Um my dad cooked too, but man, that slavery chicken, dude. I'm never I'll never take it for granted again.
SPEAKER_01It's the sentimental value attached to it.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. It meant something, man. It meant something to me, brother.
SPEAKER_01And last question. What was the last thing that really made you laugh?
SPEAKER_00Last thing that made me really made me laugh, man. Honestly, dude, uh, I don't even have a thing particularly. I would just say it's my wife. She is so damn funny, man. And she she gets funnier. Like we get older, she just keeps getting funnier. It's crazy. But she makes me laugh all the time about just, you know how people be like, oh, so-and-so is a character. My wife is a character. Like, she one of them characters, she one of them people that's a character. So um and I love doing our show. People wonder, like, how can you do your show? I was like, I still find her so hilarious and thoughtful and all that stuff that I'm sure people normally get bored of in relationships. They'd be like, I already know what you think. I really truly do not know what this woman thinks. I don't know what she's gonna say next. I feel like I spent half the show cleaning stuff up. I'll be like, nah, that's what? No, that's not how that happened at all. But uh, she she's always gonna be herself. And so uh, yeah, it's probably something she said sitting on the couch watching the uh NBA highlights or some shit, and she'll just make me laugh so hard. So it's definitely something like that. And I laugh a lot all the time. So if it's not my wife, then it's definitely this Diana Rossini story and these tweets and texts everybody's been sending me.
SPEAKER_01Nigga, bro, just that shit that shit unraveled like over the course of like the last four hours. I was like, brother, they really got history, bro. There's a quote for everything, bro.
SPEAKER_00How is she out here talking like this, brother?
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's bad, man. Just laying breadcrumbs all on their tweets, and we were just completely oblivious to it.
SPEAKER_00Dude, that and the way the media is back on verbal, like whoever leaking this, they literally waited till the draft to drop the second bombshell, which is we got more pictures from six years ago. Which I think on a couple levels you got to consider. The first level is obviously they waited to the day of the draft to drop this. This is targeted. Yeah, you know, I got a homie in the industry that's like he swears Randolph that took pictures and it's not no conspiracy. And I'm like, brother, I think it's a conspiracy. I think it's that woman's husband or something. And he's like, it's not that, it's not that. I said, okay, it might not be that. I'm like, I'm willing to submit that I look I know nuts to you. But um, bruh, I uh I was like on the one angle, if he told his wife any lie, any lie, because everybody's like, he must have told his wife about the affair because he didn't deny it. But if he told her any lie, that might explain why he's taking the third day of the draft to be with his family for counseling. Because I'm wondering if he kind of told her half the truth. Like, yeah, we did. It was stupid, it was a one-time thing, blah, blah, blah. And then someone was like, actually, I've been fucking since 2020. How about that? And then he's like, I need to miss the draft and talk, I need to do some counseling immediately.
SPEAKER_01Because that's all I thought it was. I thought it was just an isolated incident in Arizona. And boy, they busted through that wall like the damn Kool-Aid man. Like, wait, there's more.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna tell you the thing. What messed it up for everybody is at least on the internet, is people got so many agendas. So they trying to like, they always trying to triangulate their position. They're trying to get into a place where they can like still carry out. I I drop all agendas on this. So like you can't go into this, like, I need to protect women's places in the media industry because you're gonna end up looking stupid because she's violating tenets of the media. So when you what you end up doing is like you say, like, well, if Adam Schefter could do stuff, he would do it. He not, but most importantly, you just made an argument for why Adam Schefter's access journalism is okay with you now. So I guess you shouldn't even, if you defending literally fucking a coach to get a scoop, then you basically should defend like Adam Schefter getting a copy and paste note to say this for the agents, and you not. So you got that part of it, you know, the general misogyny of just ha ha, whatever. Then you got people saying it's a double standard because she had to resign and he didn't. I'm like, well, I I'll it's two things about that. Number one, she tried to fight on that lie, and she got a job where it mattered. Like, like her part of the job is not, well, I can coach the hell out of a football team, so I guess we can look past my personal life. Her personal life and her job are kind of the same thing with her doing all these podcasts and and and and writing with the integrity of the scoop. So like she kind of fucked herself on that end. And then they were like, Well, if it was a man, it would be it wouldn't be as bad. I was like, uh if if Mike Vrabel was fucking a dude, it'd be 20,000 times worse for him. It would be like that would we would never even make it till he was cheating. We wouldn't even be talking. We was like, he was fucking dudes, and he a coach, and he he was and he wasn't gonna be a distraction. Like we it would have got real ugly. He might have lost his job behind that.
SPEAKER_01Um and the last thing very screenplay right there, bruh.
SPEAKER_00And the last thing for him that's in his favor, he worked for the handy job man, bro. He worked, no one's ever tweeted through it the way Robert Kraft tweeted through that hand job story.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00No, so of all the organizations to have a scandal like this with, the one that I think is 1000% sure they can get through it unscathed is Robert Kraft. He like, hey, don't even worry about all that, bro. Like, you just keep coaching. Uh, if you thinking your job is on the line because you you're not a man of integrity, that is not a thing you need to worry about up in here, brother. I've been through this, I've been through way worse. They wanted to throw me in jail. You just did a little cheating. Don't go on out there, coach, Mike. You know what I'm saying? So he's gonna be straight uh in a lot of ways, but man, that story is funny as fuck.
SPEAKER_01Ain't it though? Wow. Man, so lastly, before I go, you got an upcoming event with Bomani Jones in Atlanta. So talk about that, man. Plug your stuff.
SPEAKER_00Man, really looking forward to that, man. Bomonty JonesLive.com is where you can get tickets. It's me, Karen. We're going down to Atlanta. We're doing like a joint event between the blackout tips and Bomani Jones. For those that that's day ones, those that's been around, y'all know we uh go all the way back to just, I mean, literally, we go back to ESPN page two, me and Bomani. We like this is a long time coming, man. And he's been on our podcast a couple of times stuff, but we never really we became friends, and it's really just been more of a friendship relationship. But I worked on game theory with Bomani Jones, the HBO TV show. I wrote for that for two seasons, and so you know, this is gonna be fun. It's on uh May the 15th, which is a Friday, at the Monday Night Brewing, the garage, which is in Atlanta, and then um, like I said, man, you could you can also get tick 10% off. This is super secret sale. Okay, I don't I don't know how this is working, by the way. I feel kind of dirty promoting this part, but if you put in code TBJWT, you get ten dollars off your ticket. Um, I think normally emissions like 50, it'll be 40. But they was like, don't they told me don't tell Bomanian like but to tell everybody else. So I don't know. I get paid to save no matter what. So I just hope people show up. So I mean, it don't matter if y'all pay less. So if I was y'all, pay less and come up in there, man. And uh I definitely want to see everybody, man, because it's a big thing, it's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_01And uh, man, I know it's gonna be so many familiar faces in the crowd. Absolutely, man. And again, man, I'm extremely proud of you and Karen, man. Just thank you, bro. Coming from humble beginnings, no, black guy who tips was wasn't it like a blog house? It was, it was a tumbler. Wow, a tumbler. And then it evolved into this to this podcast conglomerate that y'all currently run, man. And I cannot thank y'all enough for the for the just the endless years of content and the endless years of just influence.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, nah, thank you for the recognition. And also thank you, man, for having me on. But you've always been such a positive light, man. You one of the people that I, you know what I'm saying? When you in town, it's like, hey, man, I'm doing this. It's like, hey, we gotta see what Foxworth, what they're trying to do, bro. So like um, appreciate you as well, man. And I always feel like everybody's show is reflected by their audience and the people that that that bang with them. And you can tell a lot about people from that, you know what I'm saying? So anytime we have somebody that's a good person in our orbit, I feel like that we know we're doing good work. We know we're doing good stuff, we doing the right stuff. So, you know, it's been cool because look, it's it could have gone different, you know what I'm saying? You can meet people and time sometimes like, oh, this person crazy as hell, or you know, and this person is mean or whatever. And like, I just appreciate that that you've always been like a cool person and uh and always been so positive out there, man. So thank you.
SPEAKER_01Y'all hear that, you? Yeah, dog. But man, thank you for being on and thank y'all for listening. Make sure you like download to subscribe to Since We Last Spoke with Danny Foxworth. Subscribe to my YouTube channel. You can find me at Danny Foxworth843. There you can find videos of every episode of this podcast, as well as my baseball podcast at The Plate with Danny Foxworth, my candle podcast, The Wicked Good Time with Danny Foxworth, and Growing Up Low Country with Liz and Danny. And for Rod and myself, it's been another episode of Since We Last Spoke. And until next time, y'all be good. Peace.