You Didn't Just Volunteer. Stop Saying That.

If you've been giving your time, your brain, and your leadership capacity to organizations in your community, and you're not putting that on your resume and LinkedIn the same way you put your job on there, you are leaving your own qualifications off the table.

In this episode, Lemon Price gets tactical about one of the most underutilized career assets women are sitting on: volunteer experience as professional development.

Learn how to translate nonprofit board leadership, civic roles, and volunteer work into a leadership narrative that opens doors to career changes, board seats, and leadership roles your current job isn't positioning you for. We cover how to rewrite your resume bullets with impact and numbers, how to fix your LinkedIn so recruiters actually find you, and how to volunteer with enough intention that the organizations you serve are actively building the skill set you need. Your civic work can be the bridge, but only if you're strategic about it.

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Stop Hiding Volunteer Work

0:00

Here's what I want to say right out of the gate. If you've been volunteering, if you've been giving your time and your brain and your leadership capacity to organizations in your community, and you're not putting that on your resume and your LinkedIn in the same way that you put your job on there, you are leaving your own qualifications off the table. And I personally cannot let that slide. So hi, friend. Welcome back to the Well Lived Society. I'm Lemon Price, and I've really been looking forward to this episode because I'm a little fired up about this topic. I honestly, if you know anything about me, I've been in civic and nonprofit spaces since the sixth grade, probably sooner than that, but the sixth grade, I feel like, is when I really stepped into it. I don't consider this a hobby for myself. It's not a trend. It's literally just who I am. It's actually the thing that my husband and I kind of love most about each other is that we have this heart for service and hosting, and we just want to show up and serve other people. And so when I look at the skills that women have and what we're doing, one of the things that has frustrated me for years is watching women do extraordinary work in these spaces, right? They chair boards, they manage real budget, real, very big budget. They lead volunteer teams, they run campaigns. And then you list it at the bottom of your resume like an apology, like, oh, and I do some community stuff. And we never expand on it. We never talk about the results or the impact of that work. And so I want you to know, like, we're not gonna do that anymore. Okay. We're not doing that anymore. So I want to get really tactical today. We're gonna talk about what skills your volunteer work is actually building and how we're gonna actually name them. We're gonna talk about exactly where and how to position it on your resume, your LinkedIn, in conversation. And I want to talk specifically to the women who are trying to make your career change or maybe step into a leadership role or go after a board seat because chances are your civic work might be the most important bridge that you have. And a lot of us are not using it. So I really want to dive in.

Why Women Undersell It

2:15

So the first thing I see is the problem here. Okay, your job isn't giving you everything. And I talked about this two weeks ago when I said that CHRO's leadership developments top tier, top billing for them right now. However, they're not giving you the skills, they're giving you a really boring webinar, which is why I said you have to develop your own leadership plan. And so, what I see from a lot of women, we have this tendency to be stuck in jobs that are not actually expanding us. And I don't just mean we're moving up the ladder or anything like that. I mean legitimately expanding our skill set, right? Maybe the title isn't moving or the scope isn't growing, and the answer is always like, oh, well, just wait, or oh, you know, we don't think you're the right fit or whatever it is. Meanwhile, a lot of the women I know are doing real leadership work outside of their nine to five, and then nobody's kind of connecting the dots here. And so the issue is not the experience, it's the positioning and how you're talking about it. And so when I look at some of the nonprofits that I've been a part of and what we're what we're all doing, I mean, like women are running entire organizations as volunteers. Like I know for my chapter of the junior league, every single person is a volunteer. So the president of our organization, volunteer, the executive vice president, the fundraising vice president, like all of those people are volunteers. Every committee chair, everything that occurs is volunteer work. So women are making these like very big decisions with actual stakes, and then we undersell ourselves in a professional setting.

Junior League Wins Example

4:02

I was just on a call and I was talking about junior league experience. And they were like, give us like a tactical thing that you have done as a junior league member. And so I was like thinking about it and I was like, oh, I have a great one. And when I was the PR chair, we ran a Find the Good Day campaign. And for those of you who don't know, it's a day that junior league sets aside to go and do a little bit of good out in the world. So for junior league Savannah, we wanted to fulfill teacher wish list. And 2024, we had 10 ish, I think like eight teachers apply, honestly. And the goal we only had enough money to fulfill five. And so the Association of Junior Leagues International gave us a grant. They doubled the amount of teachers we could fulfill. We wanted to fulfill 10. The president of the league said, I would love to get 100 applications, and then we'll kind of go from there. Cool, no problem. This is not a big deal. We got 280 applications. 280 applications. And we could only realistically fulfill 10. So when I talked about this, I'm like, okay, I created this marketing strategy. I wrote the press releases, you know, I did the reach outs, did the organization, and we, I mean, almost tripled the numbers that we were looking for. We were able to fulfill more wish lists because then I went and we talked to community partners and things like that, and people started donating and sponsoring more wish lists. And so we ended up fulfilling like another 10 or so wish lists in a very short time frame. And so I have high hopes for what we're doing this year. But what I'm saying is I can talk about that. I there was logistics involved, there was vendor relationship involved, there was marketing for social media, there was press releases, I had to communicate with journalists and things to coordinate that effort. I'm communicating with schools. There's a lot of skills that I could take in. Or, prime example, I've been the logistics chair. When you think about the logistics chair, it's like, okay, what does she do? I did event planning. So I planned most of our events this year. And so I again, vendor relationships. I had to, you know, I'm executing on contracts, I'm reaching out, doing all these connections. Event planning is a skill I could take into a job. And so there seems to be sort of this gap between what women are doing and then what we take credit for. And so I'm guilty of this too, where I haven't always put volunteer experience and the impact of that volunteer experience on my resume. And so I think this to me is a self-advocacy problem just as much as it is a strategy problem. And

Unpaid Work Mindset Shift

6:55

so why do we do it? Why do we dismiss our own volunteer work? And I think as women, we've been conditioned to treat unpaid work as lesser. And that conditioning hurts us, right? And when I when I think about unpaid labor in the home or like mental labor, the mental load that we carry, it's not always appreciated. People undervalue it. And there's, you know, now studies coming out like if you're a stay-at-home mom, it's like worth like $120 plus thousand dollars a year in labor. I just took a quiz. My husband and I were looking at a skylight, and on the skylight, it asked you like how much you're thinking. Basically, it was like, well, how many hours do you spend meal prepping or making grocery lists or any of those things that you do? Right. And so I put some of those things on the list. I estimated it and it came out to like $66,000. If and I showed it to Glenn and I said, if you were to hire out the amount of thinking that I do for this family, it would cost you $66,000. That's the value that I break. And so, because nobody is thinking about the fact that we're we only have two. I was at Costco. I'm like, okay, I know at home I only have two more rolls of paper towel, so I better get some while I'm here. I know there is one like pack a week, of course I get it at Costco. It's like one pack of toilet paper. I better get more while I'm here. And so we've been conditioned that unpaid work is lesser. And that includes volunteering. So when you're talking about it, I hear this a lot. Like, oh, I'm just a volunteer. And I think it's one of the most damaging phrases you can say about yourself before you've even gotten started. And so when I'm thinking about, you know, getting tapped for leadership roles, recruited for board seats, or, you know, being in places that you didn't even know were available available yet, it's not always the most credentialed women in the room, right? It's women who know how to talk about everything they do with confidence. And again, bringing this up in a way that makes sense, talking about the skill set that is valuable to that organization. And how do you know what that is? Again, I talked about this a few weeks ago. You have to figure out the strategic plan. You've got to figure out how to show up and lead confidently. And so that I'm, I think that's how I ended up as a research assistant at our university, to be perfectly honest, because I led with my junior league experience, honestly, because my experience with both the Borgham Project and Junior League way more recently. But my experience with the junior league is what got me excited to go into my MPA program. It's what got me excited to my my core focus is on public administration. But then I added a graduate certificate in nonprofit management, leadership, and innovation because I enjoy working with nonprofits. I enjoy managing and running and being involved in budgeting and financing and all this kind of fun thing. Like I like to do that. And so, because of that, it's why I got hired as a graduate research assistant because I was like, you clearly have the skill set. It's why they asked me to be on the board. And then I also got recognition at our annual dinner because of all of the volunteer work I do in our community. I have a plaque hanging on my wall with my name on it that says I spent over a hundred hours volunteering in our community. And so, to me, this is professional development that you chose and paid for with your time. Maybe you didn't have to pay finances. I know for junior league I do. I actually pay to volunteer. And so I want you to treat this as professional development that you chose and paid for with your time and your talents, your energy. And I want you to treat it that way. I want you to make this kind of shift in your brain. And so I want

Volunteer Skills That Count

10:49

to talk about some of these skills and how do we talk about our skills? So, like a top skill right now would be budget management. So I know doing logistics, I had a budget. I had to manage and maintain. If you've ever overseen a fundraising goal or sat on a finance committee, managed organizational spending, anything like that, that is fiscal oversight. And I want you to put a dollar amount to it. Maybe you, I just I talked to somebody earlier and she was talking about volunteer experience, and she's like, I actually set a new annual budget, which got us from the red to the black, and now we are, you know, doing well. We can invest in our programs more. That's a skill set. Put a dollar figure to it. Oh, I helped raise $25,000. Whatever it is, put some numbers behind it. And what is the impact of those dollars? What did you actually do? How did you how does this translate into a skill that you're not necessarily getting from work? Because that's the truth. Like the truth of the matter is, is you're not getting everything you could ever want and need from your job. It's just, it's not gonna happen. You're not gonna get everything you need from your job. And so you have to use leadership experience like this to bridge a gap, to bridge a gap that your job is not providing. So, and the other thing I'm gonna say about budget management, budgeting right now is one of the most in-demand jobs needed in public administration and nonprofits. I'm just gonna be really honest. If you have any sort of budgetary experience, any type of like, like I said, finance committees, organizational spending, fundraising goals, anything like that, please put it heavy on your resume because I'm telling you right now, there is probably a public administration job near you that they need somebody in budgeting. I'm I'm gonna be honest. And local government pays well. Call me crazy. Local government pays well. That's all I'm gonna say. And the benefits are incredible. So, okay, another skill is team leadership, right? This one is huge. It's huge. Volunteers do not have to follow you. Okay, you have zero leverage. Volunteers do not have to show up and do things for you. So that means when you lead them well, you've proven you can lead through influence, not just a position. And that's a harder skill. So again, have you led a team? I've had a committee, I've had committees underneath of me. I've had people show up and defer to my leadership and my judgment. Put it on a resume. And what did that happen? It was my logistics committee. I had a whole team of people. I had to organize the meetings. I had to then go report to higher ups in junior league about what happened at our meeting and where we are. And I was, there was constant communication again over logistics. I handled all the planning. I handled the budgeting. I managed a team of volunteers, put it on your resume. Maybe you've done some strategic planning. So, any type of leadership transition, we go through those every single year with Junior League. Every single year we do them. So if you've had to navigate a leadership transition, put it on your resume. Or maybe you set a multi-year strategic plan, put it on your resume. Pivoting a program in response to community needs, like that strategy with real constraints and real stakes. And so put it on your resume. Highlight it. Maybe stakeholder communication. So presenting to boards, I've done that too. Briefing committees, done that. Writing donor reports, communicating across a diverse community. Like that's a skill that employers are looking for when they say they want strong communication skills. So how can you translate that into something you've done? Maybe you've done project management, a gala, a capital campaign fund, a community event, right? Anything with a hard deadline, fixed budget, volunteer labor, public accountability, like that's project management, period. Especially if you can do project management over several years, like a several year project, that's huge. Write it down. I want you to, like when I'm talking about this, okay, I really want you to be thinking about things that you've done in your volunteer roles and the skill set you brought to the table or what you learned from doing that. And then again, like governance fluency, huge. If you've served on a board and you understand fiduciary responsibility, how decisions actually get made, what a conflict of interest means in practice, how committees function, that's a sought-after skill that women have. And almost nobody's talking about it. Like, you know, you have to write these things down. This is not a bunch of soft skills that are dressed up. These are hard skills that are on job descriptions. Go to Indeed, LinkedIn, anything

Use AI To Translate Skills

15:57

like that, glass door, go pull a job description. And I want you to look. Here's what I want you to do, actually. Chances are your organization has a job description for whatever volunteer role that you served in. I want you to pull that job description, and I want you to go find a job that you're interested in in the industry that you're in or want to get in. And I want you to ask how your volunteer experience can trade, like put it into Claude or whatever, right? This is the one time I'm gonna tell you to use AI, but like be like, how can I take my volunteer experience? Here's what I did as a volunteer, and then here is what the job description is. How do I update my resume to highlight these things, to appeal to this job, to get through, you know, the ATS system? That's what I want you to do. I want you to look at how you can take what you're doing, okay, that you've earned outside of a traditional employer context and translate it into what you want to be doing. So, where are we gonna put this? Right? On your resume, LinkedIn conversations.

Resume And LinkedIn Placement

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I'm gonna tell you how we're gonna do this. So for your resume, I want you to give it its own section and not just like community involvement, not a footnote, like a real section, real title. And I want you to format it like a job. So title, organization, dates, bullet points. And I want you to lead with impact and numbers, not tasks, not responsibilities, but outcomes. What happened? So I want you to like do this sort of swap. So instead of saying like volunteered with nonprofit, you could put board treasurer, or so let's say it's junior league 2022 through present, oversaw 140k annual operating budget, managed financial reporting to a 12-member board, led capital campaign that exceeded goal by 18%. Like it's the same exact experience with a completely different story. By the way, I made up all of those numbers. Do not, I'm not the treasurer for the junior league. I made these numbers up. Use it. Use it. Okay. So for me, I could say public relations chair, junior league savanna, 2025 through, yeah, I was there for 2025. Oversaw, Find the Good Day, marketed for our like 100th anniversary. I actually got us recognized in the House for and the Senate, right? That was a thing that we did. And there's things I could talk about. There's skills I could talk about. And how did those skill, like how did you build those skills? So when I talk about, say, Find the Good Day, it was social media marketing, it was public relations, it was communication skills, it was graphic design. I had to create graphics. So I have graphic design experience. Like all of those go into one, it's one project, one project for one role that I've had with the junior league. And so far with the junior league, I've had, oh my gosh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven roles in three years. Because I do, I'm involved in multiple things. And so seven roles, three years. Isn't that that's crazy? That is, wait, six. Maybe six roles. That's a lot. I've had a lot. But it's the same experience. It's just, I'm reframing how I'm talking about it. I'm reframing what I did, what what I'm taking away, what I've learned, what skill set I had to use in order to achieve something. What is the outcome? What is the impact? Hit us with numbers. That is what people are looking for on a resume. So for LinkedIn, how do you do this on LinkedIn? And I'm guilty of this too, where we add volunteer roles to the volunteer section only, which recruiters and board search committees never look at. If you go to your LinkedIn right now and you scroll, guess what? It's down there. I, for whatever reason, until very recently, totally miss the fact that where people put their career information, it doesn't say career or job experience or anything like that. It literally just says experience. It doesn't say has to be paid, doesn't say any of those things. So you can write a real description for it here. So you can name the skills, right? Governance, strategic planning, stakeholder communication, because that is where like the LinkedIn algorithm is searching. And I want you to use your actual title, not volunteer, but I want you to put board member, committee chair, program director, whatever you actually were, put that in there. I personally, by the time this comes out, my resume will or my LinkedIn will have an update. So you can go see it on my LinkedIn. And then in conversation, I think you need two or three civic leadership stories ready to go. And not like polished, polished speeches, but like a clear arc like here's the situation, here's what I did, here's what happened. And that belongs in the answer to tell me about your background. It's not some like disclaimer at the end, like, oh, I volunteered and I did some things, right? I want you to stop saying, like, I'm just a volunteer. That phrase is working against you. So stop saying it. I want you to highlight what you have done. I've been able to talk about. So if I'm thinking about civic leadership, I'm thinking about the fact that I had 280 teachers in my region apply for a wish list of fulfillment, and I was able to at least get 20 of them. We were only slated to fill 10, but we were able to fill more. And that to me is incredible. That's 20 teachers who got what they needed for their classroom to serve our students. And when I'm and when I talk to people and they know that I'm passionate about the literacy rate and the decline in the literacy rate, me fulfilling teacher wish lists goes hand in hand. This makes sense. What I did makes sense. This is when I talk about volunteering with intention. It's part of the reason that this year for junior

Volunteer With Intention

22:02

league, we pick our place. Like, you don't like pick your exact placement, but you decide where do you want to be, what interests you. And for me this year, I was like, I really want to get into budgeting and finance and fundraising and things. And so I put down that I want to be part of the annual and endowment fund because I want the skill set. I want that on my resume that I can handle large quantities of money and manage them well. I want to be able to put that down. I'm also training for our state public affairs committee. That's important to me. I want to have it on the resume. I want to have that skill set on there. I'm volunteering with intention what I'm passionate about and what I would like to do career-wise, what sort of skills I would like to bring to the table. Again, we're volunteering with intention around here, my friend. Okay. So this takes me to this career changeup, right? So how do we, again, use this intentionally? And so if you're trying to make a move and your current job isn't giving you the receipts that you need, then your civic work can be the bridge, but only if you're strategic about it. And so this idea here that you just like show up, you do some good work, and then someone notices you, like that doesn't always work. And especially doesn't work for women, to be honest. You have to be proactive. You have to name your intentions, you have to be an asset. I want you to know that like you can do this strategically and intentionally. So when I think about my board experience, right? So the college invited me to be on their first ever student advisory board to develop leadership training. Why? I got that invite six weeks after classes started in my first semester. How did I do it? I'll tell you. It's because my advisors know and my professors know because I'm in nonprofit management, leadership and innovation. I talk about my experience with nonprofits and being on the board of nonprofits. I have been on a board before. I have leadership skills already. And so when they came time for the college to figure out who to put on the board, ding, ding, ding. Guess who got an email? It's me because I talked about it, because I volunteered with intention for years, because I knew what I wanted. I want to help make decisions. I want to be in rooms where important conversations are happening. I want to take my skill set and use it to help the community I serve. And the best way for me to do that is to be in leadership roles. You get into leadership roles because you volunteer with intention and talk about your skill set intentionally. What I will say is a lot of women, especially, will get their first corporate board seat through nonprofit board experience. So if if you're if the board seat in your company or something opens up, or at another company like opens up and you already have board experience, which I talked about two weeks ago, so being on the board is not sexy. And I'm gonna keep preaching about this because it's it's not cute. It is good governance. And so if you have good governance experience, if you already know how to run big organizations, small organizations, whatever it is, then you are a natural fit for that board seat corporately. And so, how do we choose volunteer roles with intentionality? I want you to align them to where you want to go, not just where you already are. And that's the cool thing, too, is this volunteer organization. So nobody's expecting you to come as the expert. They will train you, they will onboard you, they will have resources for you. And so if you've never been in budgeting, but your organization needs volunteers to help with budgeting, fundraising, any sort of finance, then go raise your hand. There's enough oversight and help, ideally, that like you're not gonna put you in all that, you know, you're not gonna put the organization in the hole or something. I want you to figure out where you want to be. What skill gap are you trying to fill right now? I have a future you journal. You can get it, but it talks in that future you journal, it talks about what skills does future you have that current you does not current currently have? What is she doing? How do you fulfill those? Maybe it's with volunteer work. Maybe you're thinking about networking. So, like what sort what sort of networking do you want to be doing? It's part of the reason I love the state public affairs committee. I love Junior League Savannah. It's great, it's wonderful, but it's local.

Networking And Policy Access

26:46

It's local. And that and that's fine. I have a lot of good local connections. There's organizations I'm a part of. I just sent in my application for leadership bullock because I do think it's important to network locally. But I also love that the state public affairs committee gives me access to everybody in the state. I have access to every single junior league in the state. I'm having conversations with junior leagues in every part of the state, north, south, east, west. I'm having conversations. Guess what? Those conversations, because of my role with the state public affairs committee, I have congressmen texting me, multiple congressmen texting me. People who are running for state offices are texting me, asking my opinion, wanting to hear my thoughts. That is what volunteering with intention does. That is what good networking does. That's what filling a skill gap does. It puts you where you want to be. I've said this a million times. I am deeply concerned about the literacy rate. I'm it terrifies me actually. As somebody who is obsessed with reading, I know that sounds crazy because I talk for a living, but I love to read. I love to read. And so to see us for the first time ever have a decline in literacy scares me. Scares me. Truly terrifies me, actually. For a number of reasons. For workplace productivity. I mean, there's so many things that happen when you when you have a society who can't read. I'm concerned that we don't teach cursive anymore. You can't read historical documents if you can't read cursive. That concerns me. I have concerns. And so because of that, because of the volunteering, because of the networking that I do, I now get to have conversations with people who make policy that impact the literacy rate. That is volunteering with intentionality. Do I genuinely like these people? Absolutely. Absolutely I do. On both sides of the aisle. Just so we're clear, both sides of the aisle. I am not picky. I am not a, I won't talk to you if you're blue or red. That is not how I function at all. You shouldn't either if you are trying to volunteer with intentionality, if you're trying to network, if you're trying to grow. Should not matter. Should not matter. I want you to be able to communicate with somebody from across the aisle effectively, especially when it comes to getting things done that you care about and you're passionate about. I want you to make yourself known. Okay. I don't want you to just sit in these rooms. I want you to let people know what room you're trying to get into next, what you're passionate about next. So here's what I'm going to tell you, right? I'm going to tell you a fun story. So I saw our

Superintendent Story And Takeaway

29:33

state superintendent race going on in Georgia. And a friend of ours from a church we used to attend posted about his superintendent for his county running for state super and backed him. I didn't, I know that I don't like our current state superintendent in Georgia. I don't, I've met him. I don't particularly care for him and his policies. And I have a lot of concerns. So, because I went to a networking event where I met him and got to have a conversation with him, by the way. This isn't, and then I see what the impact is on our schools. So I said, okay, I like our friend that shared this. I know that we hold similar values. So let me go see what this guy running for state superintendent is all about. He had some things on his website that sparked my interest. And I said, okay, but I want to know more about this. I want to know more. So I sent him an email. Next thing I know, he sends me an email back with his personal cell phone number. I give him a call. We have a conversation, less 10, 15 minutes. Easy breezy, no big deal. He then says, I think you should come to the board office. Let's have a deeper conversation. Great. I go meet him at the board office a couple of days later. I sit there for over an hour. We have a conversation. I'm all in. I'm on board. I tell him, he asks me about myself, about, and I tell him about what what I'm going to school for. I tell him about my concerns about the literacy rate. I tell him about my role in the junior league. I tell I lead with these things. Guess what he says? Funny you mention it. I'm on the literacy council for the state. It's new. You need to connect with the senator. I said, great, great, perfect. I went up to the Capitol, tried to connect with him, couldn't get a hold of him, connected with a different representative, different congressman from my area. Guess what? I tell him the same thing. He asked me about myself. I give him the spiel. I tell him about school, about my volunteer work with the junior league and my concerns about the literacy rate. And he says, Wow, need to make sure that you meet the senator. Great. I agree wholeheartedly. I go to another event in my county. I run into the congressman that I know. He gets out of line. He gives me a hug. We have a conversation. And he says to me, Hey, did you know Senator Blank is going to be here today? I said, No, I actually didn't know that. He said, Great. Let me make sure that I connect you two. Okay, great. So he gets there. We introduce our, he introduces us, man hands me his card, said, Here's my personal cell phone number. Do not email the Senate. Do not call the office because I'm never going to answer it. He goes, I want a direct line of communication with you and let's talk about the literacy council. I volunteered and networked with intention. That's what you have to do. If you are waiting for your employer to hand you the experience you need to level up, it means you are outsourcing, again, your own assent. I said this two weeks ago, and you are far too freaking capable for that. I'm sorry, but you are. You are way too capable for that. So I want you to know like everything we talked about, right? The positioning, the documentation, intentional strategy for using

Wrap Up And Next Steps

32:45

your civic work to move toward the rooms you want to be in. Like, that's the kind of work I'm doing inside the well-lived society. And so I really want to encourage you to think about the well-live society. I know something will play here in a minute to tell you a little bit more about it, but I just want you to know like, you get to decide. You get to decide how you're going to show up, how you're going to talk about your volunteer experience. If you are taking your time, your energy, your effort, and your talents and giving it to an organization, let the organization give something back to you. Let it give you something that you can put on your resume to bridge the skills to get to the next level of leadership that you are looking for. And that is something I promise we will do inside of the Well of Society. I will see you all next week. I hope you have an incredible rest of your week. If you have questions, you know where to find me. Go check out my LinkedIn. If you're going to go update yours, take before and afters. Send it to me. I would love to see what you're doing. I would love to hear about the organizations you're a part of. I want to hear about the leadership experience that you have. So I hope you again have an incredible week. I will see you next week. Tootoloo.