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Episode 177: Communicating with Angels
What if the thoughts, nudges, or moments of intuition we experience aren’t always coming from us?
In Episode 177 of Wellness in Every Season, Autumn sits down with Michael McAdams, a lifelong seeker of spiritual truth and co-author of An Angel Told Me So, to explore his family’s experiences with what they believe to be communication from angels, spirit guides, and spiritual teachers.
Michael shares the remarkable story of his mother, Wilma Jean Jones, who spent more than 22 years recording messages she believed were being dictated to her by spiritual teachers. Michael later helped compile those writings into An Angel Told Me So and says he has experienced spiritual guidance of his own.
Together, Autumn and Michael explore questions that people have wrestled with across religions and spiritual traditions:
- What does communication with angels or spiritual guides feel like?
- How might we distinguish intuition from spiritual guidance?
- Can loved ones who have died still feel present in our lives?
- How can prayer, intention, and discernment fit into a spiritual practice?
- Can religious faith and broader spiritual exploration coexist?
- What might happen after death?
- How do free will, reincarnation, purpose, and personal choices fit into Michael’s understanding of spiritual growth?
Michael also shares several of the writings his mother recorded and explains why he believes everyone has the capacity to become more aware of spiritual guidance.
Whether your own beliefs closely resemble Michael’s, differ significantly, or you’re simply curious, this conversation offers an opportunity to explore spiritual wellness, intuition, faith, purpose, and the ways we make meaning of experiences we cannot always explain.
Ultimately, this episode isn’t about having every answer. It’s an invitation to get curious about your own spiritual life, pay attention to what resonates with you, and consider what helps you feel connected to something larger than yourself.
Connect with Michael McAdams
Spirit Speaks:
https://spiritspeaks.com
Book — An Angel Told Me So by Wilma Jean Jones & Michael McAdams:
Available through Michael’s website, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and participating independent bookstores.
Facebook:
Michael McAdams
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Movies:
Defending Your Life — starring Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep
Always — starring Richard Dreyfuss and Holly Hunter
The Last Mimzy
Documentary:
No One Dies in Lily Dale
Book/Spiritual Resource:
The Urantia Book
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This is episode 177, and we are talking about communicating with angels. Welcome to Wellness in Every Season, the podcast where we explore the rich tapestry of wellness in all of its forms. I'm your host, Autumn Carter, a certified life coach, turned wellness coach, as well as a certified parenting coach dedicated to empowering others to rediscover their identity in their current season of life. My goal is to help you thrive both as an individual and as a parent. I have Michael McAdams with me, and he has written a book about this. He has a life story about this. I was in a workshop about communicating with angels. So when this idea came across my desk, I was very excited because I left wanting to learn more. Can you tell us a little bit about your journey? You said your mom had this experience and it passed on to you.
SPEAKER_00Autumn, thank you for having me. I believe we're all born with the ability to communicate with the spiritual realm. There is a spiritual realm adjacent to this physical plane. My background was evangelical Christian, church-based, Bible-based, foundation of faith. And all of us that are brought up with that foundation of faith read and learn about angels, archangels, guardian angels. People more spiritual in nature, they read about spirit guides, teachers, masters, teachers, and angels, God's direct representatives, just viewed from a different perspective. One Christian, the other spiritual. My journey, I had been brought up in the Pentecostal church, which is pretty hardcore. Liberal interpretation of the Bible. My grandmother pastored a small Pentecostal church north of Cincinnati. My uncle, a fiery Pentecostal preacher, founded churches in Florida, Kentucky, and Ohio. My mother was extremely religious. From a young age, I had questions. I had always been more spiritual than religious. I had gotten into various information and teachings. I actually, at one time, did psychic readings. I had a table to group called Psychic World in Cincinnati, and I did a psychometry. That's the ability to hold rings, watches, keys, anything that carries a person's vibration. And I had a table, people would sit down and I wouldn't engage them in conversation. I would ask their first name. And I had a legal tablet. They would give me something to hold, and I just relaxed my mind. I would get a message for them, word for word, dictated to my mind, a full page, sometimes page and a half. When it got to the end, it would stop. I would read it to them. Sometimes they would cry. It was more confirmation as to what they were going through rather than a prophecy. When I introduced this material to my mother, and my book, An Angel Told Me So, is the first of three volumes. There's going to be three books in the series. And it's a collection of messages and teachings dictated directly from spirit teachers from the other side, dictated word for word through my mother, so I know the source. She received these messages and teachings for 22 years.
SPEAKER_03So your mom was a preacher in the Pentecostal church?
SPEAKER_00No, she played piano for my uncle's church services. She was brought up evangelical Christian, saved when she was 13 years old. My grandmother pastored the small Pentecostal church. It was amazing. She would receive sermons dictated to her mind that she would write down and preach in church and verses to songs that she would put to music and sing in church. In the book, an angel told me there's a photo gallery in the center. And toward the beginning of the photo gallery, there are six verses that my grandmother received lying in a hospital in Columbus. They didn't think she was going to make it. She was in a room by herself, she'd been praying, and these words to these verses started coming into her mind. She had pencil and paper on a nightstand beside her bed. She wrote these six verses down. And for those who get the book, when you get to that photo gallery and read those verses, six verses, will almost bring you to tears. And it was just amazing. Just that short six verses.
SPEAKER_03Sounds like your grandmother and mother set you up for where you're at now.
SPEAKER_00I believe we're all born with the innate ability to receive. People might believe it's their guardian angel. Look at the people that have a parking spot, Angel, and I use it frequently to make sure they get a good parking spot up close to wherever they're going, they're running late. And I believe, you know, that is still just a spirit teacher, spirit guide that's working with us, with the ability that we have to communicate. The spiritual realm exists adjacent to this physical plane. And we're separated by a veil, a vibration, a frequency. We don't really know what the medium is that separates us from this spiritual realm. For those with the foundation of faith, the spiritual realm would be looked upon as a place called heaven. But I believe the spiritual realm is more than just a place called heaven.
SPEAKER_03I have a religious background. I go to church every Sunday. I'm involved with the women in our church. I oversee them. And it's been interesting for my mind to see okay, how does that work for those that practice spiritually only and for those who are religious? Because what I've found in life is usually the answer is in the middle of almost everything, political, whatever. I'm now getting a clearer picture of how this would work for me with my own spiritual practice, along with having the religious side. I love this.
SPEAKER_00You don't find many spiritual people who don't have a foundation of faith, and they've evolved from that to a combination of Christian teachings and spiritual information. A couple of months ago on Facebook, I saw a post. I don't want to just believe, I want to know. We've been told to just believe, just have faith for 2,000 years. People are coming to the mindset, they say, I have that foundation of faith, I believe, but I want to know. These messages and teachings dictated directly from spirit teachers from the other side. It's just an amazing body of material on my website, spiritspeaks.com. At the top it says Spirit Speaks to the Hungry Soul. There are tabs, Bio for Me, Bio for My Mother, and a tab for a television interview that my mother gave in Cincinnati. You can scroll down, watch her interview. She's the pretty lady in white on the left. Posted on her interview is a message from volume two of the book. It's not out yet, I'm looking for a new publisher. This was the only time in a session where she was led to sit down and receive two different spirit teachers, gave two different messages and signed two names. And it was obvious that the second teacher was a different teacher than the first, because the whole cadence and phrasing of the message is different. These spirit teachers repeatedly refer to themselves in first person. We feel, we believe, we advise. Our view encompasses more than your view can comprehend. One line in a message said, We hear the spirit cries above the words you speak. Who talks like that? I don't talk like that. Really? Now that first teacher's message on her television interview was really little more than a long paragraph. And it was signed, Your Loving God. May I share this with you and your audience? And this will let you and your audience know how these spirit teachers speak. And they reference God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but they're extremely personal. This was the first teacher's message. There is a resurrection period through which man must travel in order to come into the realm of things godlike. You are to consume and digest all given here, as this comes from one highly qualified to meet the needs of this generation. You are not the sole property of yourselves. God still holds the everlasting command over your being, and in him must one take refuge. You are to be considered as one who has been stripped of all belongings and left to die by the wayside. In this manner are you then open to any help that would be forthcoming. You are by your very nature ones who would depend on your own intellect to carry you through. However, by giving of your soul into the hands of God, do you prosper and develop more freely into that which denies the outcome of some situations, knowing it is the hand of God leading and directing you so that you may arise victorious in the end. There is never a time when you will be without the Father, nor his ever loving approaches to see that you follow the path that directs you homeward. Take note that we say homeward. As your heavenly Father so resides in that vast and surmountable environment of time and space, so shall ye abide in joint communication with him by the grace with which he covers you and by your ability to accept this grace and use it for your own development. There are others here who wish to make themselves known to you, so I will step aside for this time. My love and devotion follows you as you trod onward but ever faithful to your goal. That message was signed, your loving guide.
SPEAKER_03I agree.
SPEAKER_00And we are born with this innate ability to communicate with spirit teachers. Those with faith are headed because they reach out in prayer, in communication with the spiritual realm, with God. Most people will pray to God, but I believe it's as his direct representatives that will step in and influence our lives with guidance, direction, and support. So that spirit teacher said there are others here who wish to make themselves known to you. My question is, who are the others and where is here? There are others here. Where are you in relation to us on this physical plane? That spirit teacher moved out, another spirit teacher moved in, gave a page and a half, single space type, really long, deep message. And I won't share that message in entirety, but the last paragraph, these spirit teachers in these messages, they normally end with a profound sentence or a paragraph. This is the last paragraph the second teacher gave you are not a sheep herded here and there, but you are likened unto the land that is cared for individually, nourished and loved until the full and total development allows it to be master of itself. So is man so kept, and denied only those things that would not nourish his spirit. God is all wise and loving in his dispensations. We are not to judge the workings of our Father, nor are we to judge each other. Work always to improve your own beings, for in the end time there lies your soul, with all the nourishment that you have given it, totally dependent upon the outcome of your intentions. That message was signed, your loving spiritual teacher. On the outcome of your intentions.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that one does a deeper thinker.
SPEAKER_00I've read that before and I had people say, You must be telling the truth. I just got chills.
SPEAKER_03I love that. And it's scripture has, but still has a poetry side to it. Definitely different personalities, different people. Interesting. And there are so many people where they have this not everybody realizes that they're talking angels. And they can have like where they can hear voices or have it come into their mind. People can communicate with angels in different ways. It makes sense that it doesn't matter what your religious background is, or if you're religious, you can have this because we're all loved. It's that reminder we're all seen and have a place in this life when we feel lost. We're not alone. We have a purpose. Let's find it. We have guides. You've said they've been called guides before, they've been called angels. What other things have they been called before that come to mind for you?
SPEAKER_00The main thing I think of are God's representatives. Like people will pray to God, help me get this done, help me allow this to happen, pray for a family, for a safe journey. And I believe that our spirit guides, spirit teachers, God's direct representatives will move in and help us as we make our way in this existence. And our life is really just a sequence of choices and decisions. And without those choices and decisions, we wouldn't be where we are today. Every choice, every decision that we've made, every crossroad that has led us to where we're at right now. We make mistakes, we go off on tangents. What you're doing, what I'm doing with sharing this information is to shine a flashlight on a path and say you're over there and you really want to be over here. Here's the light on the path. If you take a look at this information, you can work your way back to where you really belong. You'll be on the straight and narrow for your journey on this earth.
SPEAKER_03That I was talking about in a podcast earlier, that synchronicity where you're following the spirit, a guide, or an angel, it feels right. There's so much emotion that it's hard to find the words. But it is making sense to me. My question for this is how much are those people passed on relatives versus angels? Can they be the same? Are they different? Different people say they have felt the spirit of somebody who's passed on helping them and speaking to them. So what's the difference?
SPEAKER_00I have heard that. It's more of a presence rather than a spirit, but sometimes you can feel the presence of a mother or a father advising you. When people cross over, I tell people there really is no death. We never really die. It's just graduation. We ride around in these bodies the way we ride around in our cars. These bodies are just a vehicle to negotiate this physical plane. When your body wears out from old age or an accident, your spiritual essence crosses into the spiritual realm. And this spiritual realm is as vast as the spiritual plane itself. We'd cross over, graduate, and then what? Do we go to an evaluation center? Do we look at our life, see what we did right, wrong, what we could have done better, how we treated people, handled situations? Is it possible we're assigned to a certain set of parents in a certain social station for whatever it is that we're supposed to learn in this lifetime? If you're open to that, you're open to reincarnation. Look at the children born to Bill Gates, Steven Spielberg. They'll want for nothing. Granted, they'll have their challenges, but that kind of wealth and connection makes all the difference. And then you've got people born to alcoholic fathers, drug addicted mothers, poverty. Look at J.D. Vance, vice president. He was born to poverty. His mother was a drug addict. He ended up joining the Maries, went to Harvard. Now he's vice president of the United States. Look at what he had to overcome. Maybe that situation was deliberate to bring that out in him. And you just don't know. And then look at the people that are born to communist China, North Korea, Russia. You just don't know. It's a big planet. And then people talk about heaven and hell, which I can't comprehend heaven, with nothing to do, no choices, everything provided based on this blink of the nigh existence and eternal punishment with no chance for reprieve. I knew a lady one time that had a son that was constantly getting into trouble. From the time he was 14 years old till he was 28, the money they spent on fines and attorneys and bail, it was just a hardship on their life for 14 years. She was brought up Baptist, extremely religious, went to church every Sunday and Wednesday, carried a Bible everywhere, knew what I was involved in. I asked her, was there anything your son could do that would cause you not to give him another chance? She put her head down and said, No. I said, What makes you think God loves us any less? Do you really believe that based upon the short time that we're in these physical lives, that we're going to be sentenced to eternal damnation and punishment with no chance for a reprieve, no chance for a do-over, because we made bad friends, had bad choices? It just doesn't make sense. If we wouldn't sentence our children to eternal punishment, why believe God would it doesn't make sense?
SPEAKER_03It's so black or white.
SPEAKER_00And then some people take that upstream. They'll say, if there's no consequences here, I can do whatever I want. What do you think is going to happen in your next life? Where do you think you're going to end up? Look at the lives that people are living today all over the world. Just look at Los Angeles, San Francisco, the drug addicts on the street, living from one fix to the next. No ambition, no place to live, sleeping on the street. Would be hell. Everything they've done, every choice and decision led them to that point. That may be the hell they're living in this existence until they die, till they cross over. They'll look back and be led to an evaluation center. Look at what you did with your life. Look at what you wasted. Look at the promise you could have had, the people you could have helped, the life you could have lived. Instead, you throw it away over drugs, bad friends, bad choices.
SPEAKER_03I struggle with reincarnation. My stepdad believes in it. It makes sense why you don't see the person who passed on if they have been reincarnated, and why sometimes you can't feel those people. But at the same time, it's the whole when would it end? So many questions regarding that. Going back to the angel part and having them as guides, that part makes sense to me. The reincarnation thing is it'll take time for that to seep in.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't end, it's just a series of existences until you reach the point where you don't have to come back.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I recommend two movies that will open portals in your mind and give you a perspective on life on the other side of this physical play. The first one is called Defending Your Life. And that has Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep in it.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00These are older movies. You can get them on DVD from the library or you can stream them. Defending Your Life is the first one. And the second one is called Always. That has Richard Dreyfus and Holly Hunter. There may be other movies with these same names, but you want to make sure you get them with these people in them.
SPEAKER_03Mike's up to Have Me Watch one with Robin Williams. I don't remember the name. I thought for sure you were going to name drop that one.
SPEAKER_00With Robin Williams. I remember that movie, but I don't think I ever saw that one. These are more specific, more pertinent, something that anyone could identify with. Defending your life always.
SPEAKER_03Robert Williams was weird.
SPEAKER_00So he had moments.
SPEAKER_03The movie was weird.
SPEAKER_00When Willow had my mother, Willa Jean Jones, had been receiving messages for eight or nine years. She wasn't sure if she wanted to put these teachings in a book. She'd been praying, and she was working around the kitchen one day, and this message started to come into her mind. These words started to come into her mind. She knew it was incoming. She picked up pen and paper. She had beautiful handwriting. And this was a message that she received that she felt was confirmation. She should put these messages and teachings in a book. May I share this with your audience? This is what she received. Emptiness is part of fulfillment. Let resources fill the void so your purpose can be found. Expression is self explanatory. Look inside. And anchor your beliefs, still waters, take away your troubled view, and renew your strength to recapture that which was lost, but is now found to be adequate to pursue the course set before you. As you reconcile your being to represent those qualities left intact, God will see to it that although circumstances have been trying to say the least, your weariness will disappear as clouds once removed, allow the sun to shine to dispel the gloom and darkness that has pervaded your countenance. As described, a token of this presence will be deposited to your account and recorded in his name. Well, was she going through when she was involved, she was married and having problems. Her husband was jealous of the attention she was getting. She taught classes on spiritual unfoldment. And was getting known her husband was insecure. She ended up going through a divorce. I went through a divorce. Not everyone is going to have those same life experiences, but volume one of the book, if you haven't seen it, that is the book.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_00That was my mother. She looks beautiful. She was amazing. In volume one, the messages and teachings were pretty much personal messages. She would be led to sit down in a dedicated session. When she received these, this was not channeling.
SPEAKER_03It sounds similar to grabbing somebody's personal item and writing.
SPEAKER_00There are psychic spirit mediums who do readings, channel a spirit teacher or guide for that person, and sometimes take on an expression or even a voice that's different than their own and speak as the spirit teacher presenting the message. Then there is what they call automatic writing, where someone will have a tablet and tune in, and their hand will start to write, and they'll get a message for that person from again from their spirit teacher. And any medium, any psychic worth their soul is going to tell you that this is not me. I'm not getting this information. I'm being given this information from your spirit teacher, guide, or guardian angel. Welma, my mother, when she was led to receive an electric typewriter in her kitchen. She would be led in her mind, we have a message for you. She would sit down, light a candle, say a prayer, ask for protection. She would see three or four words float into her mind and hang there. They would not go away until she typed them. Once she typed those words, they would fade away, and three or four more would show up. That's how she got these messages. Single space type, full page, many times with no paragraphs. She was taking dictation. Volume one was personal messages to her and to me. Her spirit teachers would give a message address to her, and my spirit teachers would move in, give a message address to me, and each message would have a different tone based on whose spirit teachers was presenting the information. But these messages and teachings are woven with a universal thread. And everyone who has read these messages have said, This sounds like what I'm dealing with. This sounds like they're talking to me. And I tell people, when you get the book, read each message once, as it was given for Oma and for me. Read that same message again as if it's being presented for you and see what hits. It's almost spooky. How do they know what I'm dealing with? How do they know what I'm going through?
SPEAKER_03It's like reading scriptures, you can see it both ways.
SPEAKER_00Or you're told you ask a question, say a prayer, open the Bible to a certain page, and a verse will catch your attention. And it's almost like an answer to what you needed to hear. And this is a direct communication with the other side. When we talked before, my grandmother received sermons dictated to her mind that hosts I've done interviews with, they'll say, Your grandmother received, your mother received, they said, Do you receive? And I said, Yes. Like all the stew, I've been spoken to, advised, guided, directed. And when I was first looking for a publisher, I was on a number of different publisher websites. One of the websites asked questions about your work. One of the questions was, what makes your material unique? Why would anyone want to read this? Great question. I didn't ask for an answer. I just relaxed my mind. And an answer started to be dictated to my mind. It was twelve lines long. I typed it word for word. When it got to the end it stopped. I have read this to a number of posts on the air, and more than one teared up. May I share this with you and your audience?
SPEAKER_03You can't leave us with a cliffhanger.
SPEAKER_00The question was what makes your material unique? The answer that I was given. The uniqueness is in the manner in which it touches the soul. An open and searching mind pulls the soul and the body onward and upward with hunger and determination for spiritual nourishment, ever mindful that the path is toward God. Lives lived, experiences endured, goals accomplished, and loved ones lost are all encounters upon that path. Strive for the highest possible communication with our Heavenly Father. Believe in yourself, as the Father within you is guiding, leading, directing, and comforting you upon this journey, blessings be upon you as you walk your chosen pathway.
SPEAKER_03It's that reminder of how much bigger our spirit is, how much we are connected to everybody, everything. And it goes back to that purpose that we have a purpose that it's not meant to be alone. We have many different ways that we can connect, and it does not need to be with just the people we can physically see and touch. It can be with people who can see our lives and connect with us in a different way. Because that is what our angels are doing.
SPEAKER_00Our essence is a spiritual being. We just happen to be existing in this physical body in order to live on this plane. It's a test. But you are making choices and decisions, and those choices and decisions direct your path, and we're all walking a path.
SPEAKER_03So do you think Mother Teresa had to be reincarnated again, or do you think she's good? Do we need to break ourselves to that point of being that giving and caring about others before we can graduate? And what does graduation look like?
SPEAKER_00I like the question. We don't really know these saints and the people that just do extraordinary work with others throughout their life. And what the next step is. Do we have a choice on that next step or are we assigned? We don't really know. But whether we're ready to not come back. The universe is huge, almost beyond comprehension. We're on the outer edge of the Milky Way, third rock from the sun.
SPEAKER_03I was trying not to have a play through my head when you said it.
SPEAKER_00Third rock from the sun. And the Milky Way galaxy is our home. The Milky Way galaxy is 2,000 light years across. 186,000 miles a second times 2,000 years. It's a thousand light years thick. The next closest galaxy is Andromeda, 30 light years away. Thanks to the Hubble telescope, the James Webb telescope has photographed galaxies 7,000 light years away. This universe is almost beyond comprehension. The spiritual realm is just as vanished and exists adjacent to this physical plane. Why would we go to a place at the end of this existence where there are no choices or decisions to be made? Why would we think we even deserve to go to a place where there are no choices and decisions where we're not ready to attain that level?
SPEAKER_03I could have it for a couple days. That totally makes sense. I would absolutely be bored after a while.
SPEAKER_00I agree. After the interview, I'll share additional information with you, and you can decide what you would want to put in your broadcast. But the timelessness, time doesn't really exist. It's just a series of moment points. And the trick is to live always and forever in the eternal.
SPEAKER_03Don't we stress on what tomorrow's going to bring because you don't really know?
SPEAKER_00Well, but you still have thoughts or things. We each have our own central thought system, like a little mini solar system swirling around in our minds. People ask, they say, these spirit guides spirit teachers. It sounds interesting. How do I make sure that I don't have any negative energy, negative beings, spirits that float into my mind and want to cause me to do other things or tempt me to do other things? I tell people the best thing that you can do is establish a filter, an aura of protection. And the best way to do that is through affirmations. You can say a prayer, ask for protection, guidance, support. An affirmation given to me so long ago that I don't remember when I didn't have it. It came into my mind and it said, Let no thoughts, ideas, or information be made known to my mind that does not come from God or His representatives. Let that be your armor. We have a pesky little gift called free will. And if anything negative does slip through, you simply surround it with energy and send it into the deepest part of the universe and discard it. Because no negative thoughts have to be part of your thought system unless you allow them.
SPEAKER_03That is profound and important. I took a training for coaches about positive intelligence. It's grab on to the ones that feel right, that resonate, that are positive. Kick out the rest. That's in your own thinking, not just with communicating with angels, with other people, with navigating life.
SPEAKER_00It's your thought system. You control what you accept and reject.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_00And if anything you don't want to be part of your thought system, you could just discard. It takes discipline, takes work. It's like a computer, garbage in, garbage out. If you're watching negative movies, blood, guts, and gore, there's a lot of I just don't watch because I don't need that negative energy. I'm not a Puritan, not perfect. You know, I I like a good movie every now and then. Did you ever hear of a movie called The Last Mimsy?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_00The Last Mimsy.
SPEAKER_03That came out in 2008.
SPEAKER_00With the brother and sister?
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00Emma was her name.
SPEAKER_03On Island.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_03Wasn't there an island?
SPEAKER_00Where they had that home.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I forget the name. They were up on a beach, but that uh little girl Emma was way above her age and intelligence. And a lot of people miss the very beginning of the movie. They watch it. This teacher has a class of younger students out in a meadow, and they're all picking flowers and piling them in a pile. And she tells the students, she said, gather round. I want to show you a story. And then she tells the students to tune in. They close their eyes, drop down across their legs, and she proceeds to show them the story telepathically. The entire movie is what she's showing telepathically. A lot of people miss that at the beginning.
SPEAKER_03I I remember the beginning of the movie was weird and I didn't quite understand it. How does that relate to speaking with angels?
SPEAKER_00The uh rabbit she received information from was called Mimsey. Mimsey would give her information. Now we can relate that to spirit guide, spirit teachers. In this case, it was sent back from the future by a scientist. Her ability to listen and pay attention and be told things that were going to happen, and then the things that she was able to do, knowing what was going to come next, is perspective that will open portals in your mind.
SPEAKER_03How many people are how do I ask this better? You talked about how you can hear them, see words. What are the other ways that you can communicate with angels?
SPEAKER_00I've never seen words. Anything I've received was in thought. And you don't hear them. The thoughts are made known to your mind. I'd slow down at the head of it. I wouldn't buy that car, I wouldn't go out with that guy for girls trying to make a choice. Just pay attention. Establish a filter of protection, an aura of protection, and then just be open. Be open to whatever it is that you're looking for, whatever you need, help, guidance, direction, and support. It's available 24 hours a day.
SPEAKER_03How is that different from intuition?
SPEAKER_00There are people that may doubt anything that they're being told. They may think it's their conscience, imagination, intuition. The Bible says test the spirit. Spirit teachers don't mind taking a quiz. If you're debating what to do or how to handle, you can either say a prayer if that's your perspective, or you can ask spirit teachers if you're on that one-on-one basis. Just say, This is what I'm dealing with. What should I do? They will offer advice, guidance, direction, support. You can take their advice, or you can work off your own guidance and emotion. You can say, Well, I know I should do this, but I'm going to do it my way. See which works out best. A lot of times you'll make a decision and it doesn't turn out well, and you'll say, I knew I shouldn't have done that. I had a feeling. I shouldn't take this trip, or I go out with this person, or I shouldn't have bought that car or taken this job. You get to the point where you start to trust your spirit guides and teachers. You can still say prayers at night. There is no difference between spiritual and Christian teachings. You don't need to separate them. I was thinking today, why is it that all the depictions of angels that we see in drawings, they all have wings? Who started that? Michael Angelo. And then I thought about Clarence, the angel in uh It's a Wonderful Life. He was trying to earn his wings and had come back to help Jimmy Stewart. Why do we think spirit teachers on the other side, if they are angels, what good would wings do?
SPEAKER_03See me drive.
SPEAKER_00Pardon?
SPEAKER_03Have you seen me drive?
SPEAKER_00Have I seen you drive?
SPEAKER_03Speeding.
SPEAKER_00Driver too.
SPEAKER_03I'm not I'd like to speed.
SPEAKER_00That's aggressive.
SPEAKER_03I'm not swerving around or being crazy, but I'll look down and realize, oh, I was speedy.
SPEAKER_00My motto is lead, follow, or get out of the way. I tend to be an aggressive driver and don't fool around on the highway. I pay attention, and if somebody wants to blow past me, use them as a rabbit for state highway patrol on the freeway. Chase the rabbit. We go pens. These people in the interstate, and they see a state highway patrol with a car pulled over, and they hit their brakes. I said, What do you think he's gonna do? Hear you speeding, jump back in his car and chase you down? Usually there's more than one. They do 10 traveling pairs numbers. When I travel on a trip and I drive from Ohio to Florida, there is uh a community. Have you ever heard of Casadega?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_00Casadega is the largest spiritual and psychic community in Florida. I've done presentations there and book signings. They have my book at the hotel gift shop of the main bookstore. And Casadega is an offshoot of Lilydale. Lilydale is the world's oldest and largest community of spirit mediums and readers. It's been around since 1875, 60 miles south of Buffalo's Niagara Falls. And they would if they called it back in the 1800s, it was called the religion of spiritualism. And they would have 30,000, 35,000 people come through Lilydale in a season. Their season is short. Starts the first week of June, ends the second week of September. They're 60 miles south of Buffalo. Buffalo is Lake Effects Snow. You know what Lake Effect Snow is? They get 200 inches of snow in a season. HBO did a documentary on Lilydale, the gated community. All the mediums are certified. HBO did a documentary 10, 12 years ago. I know all the mediums in that documentary. And you can watch that documentary for free on YouTube. So go to YouTube and in the search, No One Dies in Lilydale. Choose the one posted by KL Audio. That one is free and it's a good print. You can watch that HBO documentary for free. It's amazing. The information from relatives who have crossed over. You can believe it or not, but you're watching it live. It's interesting. You asked about whether family members' relatives are in touch with us or close by, and I think we're watched over. There are family members that will look out for people that they feel need help, or the connection is strong. It's hard for them to we don't know how all of that works, but we know we're not alone. We have communication with the spiritual realm, either through prayer, through angels, or spirit guides, spirit teachers. But these messages and teachings in the book offer truth of the existence of a spiritual realm on the other side of this physical plane. People can read this information and decide for themselves.
SPEAKER_03It sounds like the biggest place to start even before getting your book is to tune into yourself. I don't even know if I would call it your book, your mom's book, compiled by you.
SPEAKER_00I'm the messenger. These were messages and teachings that she was led to sit down and receive in dedicated sessions, taking dictation for 22 years. Volume one were messages received from the 1st of August through December. Five months? She received enough messages for a complete volume as time went on. Higher teachers started moving in, giving deeper teachings. They were spreading the word on the other side that they found a willing receptacle in Willagene, my mother. It's obvious these teachers are hired teachers. One message, the spirit teacher giving the message references hired teachers and said, We received this information from higher teachers, and we in turn pass it along to you. They were acknowledging that there were teachers higher than they were providing this information. The most important thing about this work is that not only does it show that we're not alone, but these messages and teachings almost associate with what each of us are going through in our lives.
SPEAKER_03How often could she tell it was the same person? It sounds like different people.
SPEAKER_00Not only was it rarely the same spirit teacher, but a lot of these messages and teachings are given from a singular perspective, like that first message that was signed your loving guide or your loving spiritual teacher. Other messages are signed in plural, your loving spiritual teachers, your loving guides. And it's like there was a group that would gather around together on the other side to present this message, but it would be signed with a singular name. She would have messages to her that were signed your spiritual counterpart. I have messages addressed to me signed your spirit brothers, your spirit light. There were different names given, some singular, some plural. And it was just as these Spirit teachers realized that they had found this willing receptacle in Wilma G. They continued to gather round.
SPEAKER_03What about book number three?
SPEAKER_00The messages and teachings get longer, deeper, and more profound. There is a message in volume two. These spirit teachers, in these messages, they repeatedly refer to themselves in first person. We feel, we believe, we advise. Our view encompasses more than your view can comprehend. On rare occasions, an I will make himself known. I believe or I accept or I rate. There is a message in volume two that was a long message. It was two full pages, single space type. Jean had gotten through the first full page, and a third of the way down a second page, she stopped and asked a question. She typed the question and said, Who is the I and the We presenting this information? They congratulated her for the question and then gave a three-paragraph answer as to who they were.
SPEAKER_03So I was thinking that there are people that I've spoken to and watched that have their own spiritual guides, and it sounds like it's the same few people. Have you witnessed that compared to your mom?
SPEAKER_00I have the discipline to be open to any information that would come into my mind. And I have established that filter, so I'm not concerned that anything negative would come through. I don't have any particular teacher who is always available because I'm open to the entire spiritual realm. I know we each may have a spirit teacher, spirit guide, guardian angel. I've been told in my mind that you can see entire groups of spirit teachers watching and helping us. Jesus probably had battalions. And existed in the spiritual realm with God before he decided to incarnate Born to Joseph and Mary. He existed with God. There's a book called The Urantia Book. It's a link on my website, spiritspeaks.com. In the Great Links page, it was transmitted through an individual in 1935, first published in 1955. It's been translated into 16 languages, over four million copies in print. It's not a book that you read like a novel. It's 2107 pages. The fourth part is a 650-page section on Jesus that sounds like they were standing beside him for 33 years. The detail is amazing.
SPEAKER_03Interesting.
SPEAKER_00There are no missing years. How Joseph and Mary met, how Joseph died, Jesus' brothers and sisters, his young years, and how the apostles were chosen, is an amazing body of material. And it agrees with the Bible, I'd say about 98%. There's little twists on stories, but not enough to get upset over. It's an amazing body of material. So for anyone that would want to take a look at that account, I recommend mine first to see how these spirit teachers will direct and incorporate themselves into your life and help you on this journey. Life is a journey. We're all walking a path.
SPEAKER_03Final thoughts. Oh no.
SPEAKER_00I died in a movie. This woman said, My mind is blown. Might have been a journey to the center of the earth with Brandon Fraser when they went to looking. That was it. I forget her name. She was Norway. Anyway, yes, people should be able to acknowledge the existence of their spirit guides. If you're more comfortable with angels, go with that. Realize that we're not alone, that this information is available. And being able to read these messages and teachings just allows us the confidence as we make our way upon this journey. Now, my book, An Angel Told Me, so it's available on the website. It's available through Barnes and Noble. Any Barnes and Noble store can order it. If you have an independent bookstore, Ingram is my national distributor, and any small bookstore can order it for Ingram. It's also available on Amazon.
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SPEAKER_03There's times where I will go to the store and I can't find it, and I'll just open up Amazon and forger it too.
SPEAKER_00So it's it's available pretty much everywhere if people want to reach out. The show notes. I have a contact page on my website. If anybody has questions, it's good to share this information. I was meant to take this call. You must be telling the truth because I just got chills. That makes you feel good that you're able to share the information. I'm just a messenger here to let people know we're capable of receiving this information. We're not alone.
SPEAKER_03How it helps us live our higher level.
SPEAKER_00I agree. To know there's a higher level. And this is not our final destination. That we will keep going until we no longer have to come back to the earth.
SPEAKER_02Perfect.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for this. This was amazing. My brain feels overloaded in a good way. Hopefully everybody else took something from this. And if you would like to contact him, look at the show description. The links are there. If you still can't find it, email me or him. We will get you settled. Thank you. And as we close out, can you show us that book again?
SPEAKER_00Thank you for having me. I appreciate the intelligent conversation.
SPEAKER_03Yes, thank you. It matches my shirt. Same color for the book. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. My website is spiritspeaks.com, and it has the same purple background as the book.
SPEAKER_03Makes it easy.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Thank you.
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