Chulin 5

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Alright, Hulindav, we're gonna start smack in the middle, Lehma Messile, only because if not, we're gonna pick up in the middle of an agarata and uh uh we get to choose since yesterday we were all dancing with so uh lema misile, mommy smack in the middle of Hayamaral. So again, just to recap, we're still in the beginning of the same Sugia since we started with Sakhas. Hulin started with a stira, right? We had Hakul Shechtin, Ushkitaseng Shah. Anyone can Shecht, but then we said Ushkita Sing Shah. Anyone can Shecht which sounds like Ushitaseng Shahra sounds Bidi Evid. So what's going on? It's a stira. So we had six different answers in the Gemara. And one of them, and the one to uh that leads into our Gemara that we need right now is Rabashi, Rabashi quoted Raba. And Rabashi said that Hakul Shaften again it's a reboy. Forget about the stira. If it's coming to teach you something, it's not a stira anymore. Because Hakul Shaften is coming in the Rabbi something. What's coming in the rabbis is coming to Rabbi Marbeh, even a Israel Mummer. A Israel Mummer that's not uh he's off the D. And therefore, specifically the one Rabba was talking about is a Mummer Lechal Navalis Lateab. He's a Mummer that he's not doing it lahaches. He's not a Mumm Lahakes because he's trying to get at a Kodas Maraku. He's a Mummer Lechel and Navalis Team, which basically basically means if it costs him anything extra, he's not gonna do it. He's gonna take the McDonald's. It's closer, it's easier, it's cheaper, whatever it is. But if he has kosher meat in front of him, he has trave meat in front of him, and specifically in our case, he has to shacht an animal. He's gonna shaft it anyway. That's how they killed animals back in the day, especially. He's gonna shacht, he's gonna eat it. He's not gonna do Abraham Ahai. Um he's gonna shacht it anyway. So we have a spar of Le Shaviketera the Akhli Surah. He's not gonna just do it the wrong way. Obviously, again, we're talking about a guy who knows how to do shit, because otherwise we wouldn't be handling it. You could be the biggest Tatik in Yurish Mayim in the world if you don't know how to shita, well then we don't even allow you to do shit. So obviously, this Mummer knows how to do Shita. But the question is, does he care? The answer is yes. He's not gonna leave over the heter if he could do it just as easily. However, we said you have to be Baikik Sakin, you have to check the knife for him, because that already is a bother. It's an extra thing, he has to check the knife, and that much maybe he's not gonna do. But if he's doing the same paula anyways, and he knows how to do shita, he's gonna do it the right way. That's what Roba said. So Ravashi said, Hakul Shaikhin is going like a robot, it's coming to be Marbe, Yisra Mumr. Now, Yisra Mummer, Baidik Sakin, give it to him, and he's gonna be able to do Shita, and it's a Kashir Shita, you can eat it. So that brought us along. That was one of the answers to the first question of the Gemara of the steer in the beginning of the Mishnah. And that brought us along into yesterday's duff, which mainly went into uh Akuti a little bit, and it went into Yisra Mummer a little bit, and then we had uh a bunch of questions, questions back and forth from um, or rather we'll start of well, what we need for today is Riv Anan Mishmeh the Shmu, who said yesterday brought it a step further than Rabbah. He brought it a step further and said that even a mummer la avail this khaichovin, he's a mummr that does avail the Zerri. The worst of the worst, even him, Shrith Shera, you can trust his shita and you can eat from a shita. That's a big kidish. And we spent a lot of yesterday's daff, which goes into today's life. That's one long hymn. That's how we're gonna start in the in the in the beginning, in the middle. It's a little bit of a gatata. But achovies. We asked all these questions. How do you do ishafet was a big tath? But he was boys with Achov. Achov was uh goes down as one of the biggest Rosha. But he ate from Ishita and this, so we try Mumala by this Kahavim, etc. That was yesterday's dah. We'll pick up Laima Messiah Leh. I don't know how many lines, but smack in the middle. Let's try to bring a raya to Rufanan Mishme the Shmua that we came up yesterday, and we just followed the paper show how we got there. But what did he say? That a mummer, la avoidas kehavin, you're allowed to eat from a shita. This guy does avail this around. Still, you're allowed to eat it from ishkrita. So it says even a kuti is allowed to do shrith. Okay, hi orel hehidabi. This arah that we're talking about, what kind of arl are we talking about? Again, because we said you're almumr as one of the people on this list that is allowed to do the Shita. So this Ara we said, what exactly is the situation over there? Eile Mashamasu Ahmed Echal Masmila. Maybe he's a kasharigid. He does nothing wrong, he's a tzadik, you're a shaman. He just happens to be an Ara. Why? Because Mesu Echal Mahmas Mila, all his brothers died because of Mila. There was a hazak already that his brothers died. And therefore, he has a tour, he doesn't get Mila because we're worried that he's also gonna die. And therefore, he's really there's nothing wrong with him. He's Rama'alyah, this guy's a big Tzadik. There's no reason you don't need a Rebui to tell me, you don't need a Reboy to tell me. Look at that haircut, Zriza Magdiman already. So you don't need a Rebui to tell me that this guy is allowed to do Shita. Shkah, he's a Israel Aliya. There's nothing wrong with him, even though he's an RL, if he's a he's a Masu Ach of Mahmasmila. So Eloph Shita, obviously, it's poshid. Then Mumr Araus. What's he a mummer? He's a Mumrla Arailus. He's a Mummer that he decided he doesn't want to do Mila. He's a Mummer for that thing. Okay. Ey Masaifa. So let's see if that works with the Sefa over the Septa we just quoted. Ema Sefa, fila Israel Mummer. We said even a Israel Mummer. Even Israel Mummer, you're not a eat from a shit. So we literally just said it is a mummer. Say Khanami, what's that talking about? E Mumr Lidavar Akhod. If we're talking about a Mummer for one thing, he's not a Mummala Kalatarakula. He keeps some myths as he picks and chooses, but he's a Mummer for one thing. So if that's the case, then Hainu Mumala Arelus. That's the case we just said. Mumala Arelus. He's a Mummer for one thing for Milah. And this guy, if Mumr for one thing, so why do you have to repeat yourself? That's exactly what we just said. Alallah. So must be what? It must be when we say Israel Mumr, it means even a bigger khadish. Even bigger than a guy that doesn't keep Milah. That he's a Mumrla Arelus. Elalav, it's a bigger khadish that what? Mumrlah Avoidas Khavim. What's bigger than that? What's the worst thing? Avoid this kahavan probably means even a bigger khadish. A mumr that even does avoid the Zara, even him. Uh Rabanan, and that would be a riot Rabbanan. So out of the Khajman we just made, it comes out that when we say a Mumr is allowed to do the Shreitah you could eat from his Shita. It must be, again, otherwise we're not sure what's going on. It must be. We're talking about a Mumrla Avoides Khavim, which is like Ravanan, the khidish we saw yesterday, Ravanan Mishmeh the Shmuel, who said that a mumr la voidus kachovim butu and lachomishita. So he says the gimar alloy. Not necessarily. What's going on? Really, I'll tell you that a mumalava diskavim, you're not allowed to eat from a shrita. Damn our mar because why? And this is the first time we have a reason, actually. Because we saw that Hammurades Kham shakala koiferba khamaidah terakula. Avidazar is so bad that anyone who's koifer in Avaidazara, good thing to be koifer in Avadazara, right? So someone who's koifer in Avadazar is it's like as if he's Maidah in the entire Kalatara Kula, uh the in Kalatara Kula. And the point is, the opposite, the hepik works as well. Anyone who does Avidazar, it's as if he's koifer in Kalatara Kula. That's the point over here. So that's why Avadazar is so bad, and that's why you're not allowed to eat from his Shita. The Gemarz is about to say that. So the Gemarz, so that's why you're not allowed to eat from a Shita. Ella Mummer La Ois Dabr. So, okay, so what is Praisa then? I don't understand. We said a Mumr, the A'railus, which we established, he's a Mummla Arailus. So that's what Mum Ladavar Echot. And then you go on to say also a Israel Mummer. So what's that? It's probably more. But it's not of a desire because we just knocked that off. So what must it be? It must be Mummer Le Oisoidabar Uhidarabah. We're talking about a Mummer for that thing. It could be a little bit worse, meaning we we have to find something worse because we're trying to bring about bring out the Bryce's going Bedaracha Braysa to bring out a bigger kiddish. A bigger kiddish than Mumrla Arailus, which is a mummerla davar achun, would be a mummer, either for desire. That would be the biggest kiddish, but we're not trying to say that because we're trying to knock that off. A mumrla oisidavar, uh. A mummer for that thing specifically. If someone's a mummer, even for one thing, but it's a thing that he's doing, like shita, this guy's a mumer lachal navelis, lateavan, right? So what does that mean? He eats Navel, he doesn't care about shrita. And you're gonna you're gonna trust his shita. I understand maybe a railus, okay? What does Arel have to do with Shreita? Maybe he's an Rel, he's scared of the pain, but but he keeps he does shritah properly. No, if someone is Aichol Navelas Lateavan, he's Mumer La Aysay Dabar, that's way worse. Because maybe I'm gonna that there's no there's reason to assume that he's gonna shekt incorrectly. This guy literally doesn't care about shita. And that still would be a bigger tradition because the rabbin that would go like Rabbah, that even a Mumr La Aysay Dabar, uh Mumr Lachal Navelas Lateavan is going to be allowed to shekt, because we have a chazoka loy shavakera the achlisura. That's why you just have to make it equal scenario for him. But the point is that that's really what the Braissa could be talking about, and therefore it's not a raya to Ravanan. Says a grammar mesve. Now I'll ask you a casha on Ravanan and Mishweh the Shwa. Again, Ravanan says in the name of Shwa, O Mumarla avoides kochovim, you're allowed to eat from Mishkita. That's a full posting. So Mikem, the Possak says, So we darshin Veloikulhem, that who can bring a carbon oil? Mikem from you, but not all of you. Only some of you. Some of you could bring a carbonila, but not everyone is allowed to bring a carbon oil. Lohities a mummer. What is that might see? Some of them. Lohiti has a mummer. That's gonna be mighty a mummer that even so uh that's gonna be mighty a mummer that what? That a mummer is not allowed to bring a carbon. That's what we learn out of Mikem. Mikem continues the Brass of Darshini. Mikem Bokem Chilati Blaybu Ummas. This chilik that a mummer is not allowed to bring carbonus is only by you, it's only by clause. But not um we know that there's a concept that a guy could bring a carbon. The fact that a guy could bring a carbon, even if he's a mummer, what does that mean? The goy have certain concepts that they believe as well, and they have to. And therefore, even if the goi is a mummer, there's no chilik by a goyi. A goy can bring a carbon and a guy can bring a carbon. This whole chilik that a mummer can't bring a carbon, it's only a shrum mummer. A shrum mummer is not allowed to bring a carbon. That's what we learned from here. Mina Behema, we continue. The Possik says, Minabema, you bring carbonas from the behema. We learn from there the Habi bin'anam should do in the behema. That's marbe people that are mamish like animals. They're animal people. They're they're meaning it's a bad thing. It's a legus as we're about to see. But the point is that people that are doim in the behema, that their mysema like behamas. We're we're in uh we're in the Svir Sa'ima right now. The whole point is to go from uh from being doim in the behema when we came out of Mitsara, we bought the karma sa'iram, classic for it. We come to Shwuis to the Darg of Adam, that's why we bring the She'alacham, which is uh ready wheat, that's what people eat. But that we were a Binayodan had doiman the behema that are mysema like behemoths. So make us what do we learn from here? Mina behema, that were mikabu karbonas from Paisha Israel. Even if you're a Rosh, Paisha Israel, we still accept your karbanas. Why? Because we want you to do chuba. So we accept your karbanas to do chuba. So the gomar, chutzman of a mumer, continues the Baiso. We don't accept karbanas from a mummer. Um minase someone who is Minasi Khwine. That's how Ividaved isra. That's he's literally Minasehwine. Umikhal Shabbas B Farasi, and someone is Michael Shabbas Bifarasia. Also, him we're not gonna accept karbonas from. Says the gimmir, let's try to understand what just happened over here. Hogu Fakasha, we have a steer of Mineu Be in this Braiso. Because Ahmed Mikem like we said, what? Mikem teaches you he could bring karbanis from you, but not all of you. Not everyone is allowed to bring karbanas. Lois a mummer. That excludes a mummer. Mummer is not allowed to bring karbanis. The Hodder Tony, then we said Mikadon and Karbonis Poshisra, that we do accept curbanis from Poisha Israel. So what's the question? The question is, um, Poishe Israel is probably a Mummer. Sounds like the same thing. He's a Rasha, he's a Rasha, and he's a Rasha. So says the Kamara, like Kasha is not a Kasha. Resha Mumala Fatarakula, Mitsiyasa, Mumaladaver Echod. The Risha that said that we don't accept Karbonis from a Mumr is a Mummer Kalatarakula. That guy we're not gonna accept it. He's a Mummer for everything. But the Seipah that says, the Seipa that says, uh, or mitsiasa, then mumal daber echad, the m the the mitsiasa that says that we're gonna accept Mikablin Mipoisheo. That's a poisonous poishea and a davar echar in one thing. He's not a mum that colatarakula, he's a mummer in one thing. That kind of guy, we want him to do chuva, and therefore we're gonna accept his karmana. Okay, let's see if that works with the sefa, though, because we didn't reconcile the whole brace of just now. Ama seifa, chutzmana mumur, minasa khsaya and machabah shamba's bifarasya, except for these three guys, right? We send mummer again, chutzmana mummer, and someone who is menasachwine, other desarra. So it says, hi mummer ekadami. What about this mummer and the seifa? That this guy knows. So what are we talking about? We already said that guy in the raisha. Why are we repeating mummur? Who's it talking about? And if it's a mummer daber echod only for one Avera, then Kashmitiyasa. What about the middle part that Mikablin Mipoisha is? That's literally what we just said that is a Mumm Dabara Echud. So which one is it? And we said Mumr a third time. So what kind of mummer is this guy that we're excluding? Says the Gemara, Elolav. How do you have to understand it in the sefa? Hokhikamr. We read it a minute ago in the question, that's why it was a question. We read it. Chutzmina Mumr one. U minase hsayain two. Uh, Michal Shabiz Vavarasia three. Three different cases. Mummer is a standalone. That's not how you have to read it. How do you have to read it? Elolav Hokhikam, this is what the Brasil means to say, this is how you have to read it. Chutzmina Mummer Linase Hasayain. It's not its own thing. Chutzmina Mummer Linase Hasayain. What's he a mummer for? Doing Nisachayain. He is Minasehwine. He's straight up Oyvidavazar. He's a Mummer La Vidaskah, this guy. He's a Mummer Linase Khazayin. Uluh Shabbas Bhara. So it's really two cases, it's not three. He's a Mummer for being Minasehwine. And he's a Mummer for uh being Michal Shabis Betfarhasiya. By the way, why does Khil Shabbas get thrown into this? Very interesting. Nice rashi over here. That says Rashi, hi Tana Khamirle Shabis Kabedish Kham. This Tana equates this on the level of severity, Shabis, with Abbazara. Last line, someone who's a Vedazar is Khafer Nashem, obviously. And someone's Michal Shabiz, Koifer Bemisov, umade sheker, shalish shabas a kajbaresh. He's being made shekel that the Kajbar who didn't uh he wasn't Shabbas after he created the world, and therefore it's Mammish one and one in the same thing. Someone is Machal Shabiz, because it's on the level of Khaimer, according to this Tana, Haitan Hamir le Shabis, just like Avadazar. So it says the Gemar. Now what? Really, the way we understand the Brahsah is that the last line is not its own mumr. It's a mumr la Avaidazara or a Mumr La Le Shabis, right? So it says the Gemar like this. That what comes out? So what do we see? Alma, Mummer La Vedas Kahovin, Havan, Mummala Khalatara Kula. So what do we see from this brython of the day? The first mummer we said was a Mummala Khalakula. He cannot bring a karma. The last mummer we said, the way we just explained it, was a Mummer La Vedasara. Or for Khil Shabis, and he also can't bring a karma. So we see it's on the same level. We see that a Mumr La Vedis Kehovin is just like the Mummilla Khalatara Kula. Vitiyufta deravana tiufta, which is a real clear cut right against Ravana Mishmeh the Smool, who said that a Mumul La Vedzara is gonna be able to bring a karma. No, we see he is gonna be able to do shritah. No, we see just like he's this guy is just like a mumal chalatara kulah it's not different at all, and he is not gonna be able to bring a karma over here, but he's also not gonna be able to do shaita, and it's a tiuftah deravanan, tiufta, when the gamar says it twice. Tifta deravanan, tiuftah that's how you know that it's really closed cut over here, and uh and we shlug them up. Says the Gemara, Vehamehka. So is this really again? It's not kasha. We had it a few times. We asked on uh in the six answers we gave in the Gemara, we said, uh, what about this? It says Vakulan, how do you gonna say the kasha? Kasha means no, but the answer stands. The answer is knocked off completely. Says the Gemar. Continuing along again, so we're segueing a little bit, but we just said that what? Out of the Khajman we just made, that a mummer la avoidazara is or really sorry, that a mummer is not allowed to bring a carbon. We tried saying, who? We went through that in the so but a mummer is not allowed to bring a carbon. Says the Gemara, really? We learn it from here, but oh me'ochana nafka. The fact that a mummer is not allowed to bring a carbon and we're not macabre's carbon, that's learned from here. Mehotham nafka, have a different mekar for it. What's the other makar? So the posk says, Me'am orat. So again, me'am'orat is from the nation, right? From the people. Mashmah from the people, but not all the people. Who is that being mightsi? Pratham mummer. It's being might see a mummer, because again, this posik is talking about karmanas. I'm reading from the side. Me'am orat bass so it's achas meat. Someone who doesn't aveira, what happens? He brings a carmel chatos. That's what the Mishlah, that's what the Posik is talking about. So he's gonna bring Karman Khatos. And only Me'am Oret. Someone who's from Amurat, he brings the chatos probably Mummer. A Mumr is not gonna be able to bring a Karmelchatos. Rib Shimin Benyosi Oymer Michom. The highlighter, the full lagmaimer. So Rib Shimin Mayoshi says in the name of Rabshiman Maychai that Ashtaloiteasena Bichgaga the Asham. That the Postik says, really, I'll bring you a different Macar. It's not Me'am Aret, but rather Razbi says that it's from the following plastic. Ashthloite Asena Vich Gaga the Ashaim. Like he did what he the Pastig says he did one of the uh Averas to Ashthliteasan. I think you're not supposed to do Bichgaga, but he did a Bishik the Ashim, and he he did the Aveira. So what do we learn from there, says Razby? Ashovmi the Aseh may be Karbanovskosle. Anoi Chovmi Diaslay, Karbanovskigosle. Only someone who is going to he who would have been Chovmi in the ase. He would have he would have not done it had he known, right? Shovmi Dios. If he had the Idi Adioslay, if he knew what he was doing and it wasn't Bishai Gig, and he realized that he was doing a mistake, then he would have been chav. He wouldn't have done it. So Shov Midiasli, if he would have known, he wouldn't have done it, then he's gonna bring a karmic. Maybe Karmanovskasa. But Ana Chav Midias, let's say he had known, and he did it by Mainz, and he knew exactly what he was doing. Would he have still done it? So if he was Aina Chav, he wouldn't have done it, it wouldn't have stopped and he wouldn't have still done it. So anyway, Karmanash. So just because he did it with Shai Gig, yeah, but if you did that same act, you would have done it by May's it as well. And therefore you don't bring a karmana chatus. That's what Ribb Shimon says. So Bamrin and Bamina, and we continue along. We just brought two different Akuras why a Mumr is not able to bring a Karman Khatas. Again, the first one was May Amma Aretz. Only Me Amma Aretz, but not all the people pronoun the Mummer. And Rajmi said, no, Asheloite Assenabhogav Ashim, what does that teach me? Only a guy who, if you would have realized what he's doing, he would have stopped. But if he's a Mummer, meaning he would have done it but made it as well, then he has to bring a karmal chatus. So we have two different Makaras that a Mummer does not bring a Karmelchatus. So it says I'm what is the Naqkamina of where you learn it from? Nachkamina between uh the Pasuk of Me'amareth, or if you learn it like Rajbi from Ashelaita, no? So Nachkamina of Amrravamnun or Amnunun explained Mumr Lechul Khelev. Let's say it's a Mumr Ladrach, right? He's a Mummer to eat Khelev. He eats uh forbidden fats and he did an Averibishig, but it wasn't that one. It was a different one that he actually usually keeps. The heavy karman aladan. He ends he wants to bring a karm chatas for eating blood, which is another terrible answer, right? But it's not chalev and he usually keep he doesn't usually doesn't eat dam. He's only a mummer for chalev, he's not a mummer for dham. And he wants to bring a karmicatas for eating dam. So that is going to be the nafkamina. Ikkuminah, that is the nafkamina. Why? Because if you learn it from Mayama Arret, which is Prat Le Mummer, then this guy's a mummer. He's a mummer and he's a mummer, and therefore he's not gonna be able to eat. He's not gonna be able to bring a karban even for dam, which he usually doesn't eat. Whereas if you learn it from Ribshiman, has chavmi the asai, then maybe karban al shigigasai. If he would have been khaj, meaning if you knew, what do you do, would you have stopped? This guy, he's not a mummer for Dham, and therefore he would have stopped. Yeah, he only eats Khalib, he doesn't eat Dham, and therefore he is a Shavni Diyasai, and that's why he would bring a Karbon in that case, that he wants to bring it from al-Khatas because of uh because of eating Dam. And according to Ribshiman's Mikar, he would, and that is an afkamina of which that would be whether you learn from one Pasak or the other. But either way, what do we see from here? The question is zoom out a little bit. We got involved in these two Mikaras, but the question really was back to us. Vi'a mehachanafka mehassanafka, the fact that a mummer can't bring a carbon. We have Beklau two other Mikaras, Machlekas, Rib Shiman, and the Tanakaba over there. What um what the Mekara is, but that has nothing to do with our Mikar we just brought of uh from the brights over here, the way that we just read the bright sauce of the touching up the plastic says the Gemara. So, what are we gonna do? We'd really learn it from here. I just showed you two other Mekaras, like we just saw. That's that's how we know that a mumr doesn't bring a carbon. So says the gemara, khadab chatas for khadabah. Like you're right, but over here in the postic psukim we were just talking about were tall menacarbon chatas. This is 12 menacarbon chatas, and before no math for 12 menacarbon oilo. So you need two different mikairas depending on which carbon to tell you that a mumr does not bring that type of carbon. Both the chatas or oilo, he doesn't bring. So Zgamar, why do you need both psukim? Maybe you just can't bring karbonas in general. So's gumab, it's richa. I'll tell you why you need to tell me about both types of karmanas. Because if you only tell me that a mummers not allowed to bring a carbon chatas, me shum de la chaparu. I would tell you because what is the chattas? What do you bring a chatas for? You bring a chatas to get uh kapara. Now, is this mummer gonna get kapara? Zakterashi, no. Because like we know from the Rambam and the Hilchas Chuva and everything, that you only you bring the chatas, but you're only gonna get kapara if you also have in mind chuva, kabbalah the acid, you're not gonna do it again. And Zakterashi, the Keman the Daytilahizin, this guy's a Mummer, so he's not planning on not doing it again. He's planning on doing it again. Vihai, the came in the diet alhizin since he's gonna do it again, but his and he's planning on the Latr Alavirasa, Uvihamya is Tramin the Shoging, and in this specific scenario, it happens to be that he did a Bashoging. So he's trying to bring Karmin Khatas. Yeah, but you're gonna do it again be makes it. So the isn't it? So Imkein, a manikabumine, hola barkaparu. This guy's not a barkaparo, he's not taking it upon himself not to do it in the future, and therefore he's not gonna get a kappar. And if the whole point in the karm chatas is to get kapara, he's not gonna get karpara, so we're not gonna let him bring his khatas, and that's why. Ahua, the dira, no, but a gift. It's a dairan, it's a gift, and therefore, aim al-kabominah, maybe we should accept it from him. Why not? So it says the gumara, that's why I needed to tell you also by oil, and I'm an alas. The iashmin in oil, if I only told you this aloha that a mummer doesn't bring a carbon by a karbon oil, I would think me is chumdalab khiuvhu. I would think because it's not a khiov, so we're not going to uh take it from him because we don't want your gifts. You're in a mummer, you're trying to bring a dira, and we don't want your gifts. Stay away. Ah, bo chatas, but a karman chatas de khiyuv, and then the day it's a khiyov. He's chyyv to bring a karmon chat. Maybe maybe we should accept it from him. Why? Is a drashi shallah yeah, chhaita in this kar? Because we don't want him to win out from the fact that he's a chiteh. What? Now he doesn't have to spend the money to buy a chatas because we're not gonna know. Since it's a khyuv, maybe he should bring it. So that's why I wouldn't have known it. Uh the other way, that's why it's that's why I need to say both khatas, both ayla, because he wouldn't have known one from the other. And a mummer is not gonna be able to bring both a chatas and and oylah. Says the Gamar. Okay, just uh on a tangent of what we just said. So we we just said that what? That mina behema teaches me l'arabas bne adam shah doy min the behema. They're maisim or mice behema, even them, po shahisra, they can bring a karba. That's what we said. So behema clearly is a negative thing, right? They're people that are like animals. So says the Quran, the ksi behema guruusi. Really, every time it says behema, it's a bad thing. But the pasik says, and over there in the posic, it's a good thing. How do we know? The ummarab rebuild us in the name of Rab. That possible is referring to people who are very smart, Arumin Bidas, Aruman Bedash and uh clever. Um and Arumin Bidas, um it's the the forgetting right now, but the the pasik in the beginning of the. And Targa says who I was on a chamlibish. He was uh he was very clever for bad. But again, Arum in both senses, but Arum is very smart, and therefore these people are very Arum and Bedasta very smart. Um Atman, ki behema. And they make themselves a little bit like a behema, a little bit like sheep sometimes. So they they go a bit tmimous. Sometimes you have to have a meet of tmimas to follow a khajbara who listened to uh listen to what Hashem says, listen to the good element in a way of tmimas, even though they have gansa khajbainus. So sometimes that's a milo, and that's what it's referring to over here. So we see that behema over here is not like Grayusa, it's not a bad thing, it's actually a positive thing. Says the Gemara, Hasum Kseiv Adum Behema, Hokha Behemokhadeh. I'll tell you what the difference is. Over there it says Adum of a good thing. Atam Kruyim Adam, Adam o Behema, Behema paired with Adam is gonna be a good thing. Whereas Behema le kude, behema by itself, as in Mina Behema, that already is going to be a bad thing. Says the Gemara. Okay, so really anytime it says behema along with Adam, it means a good thing. But the Pasuk says, Vizarati is be strong, Zerah Odam vizera behema, and over there it's Ligna. Over there it's a bad thing, and we have Adam and Behema, and it's a negative thing in the Pasik. Says the Gemara. Hasum Ho Chalki Kras Zerah Odam the kud, Zera Behemah Luchud. It doesn't say Adum o Behema, like in the Posik Adam of Tashia Shem. It says Zerah Odam Zerah Behema. And therefore the Pasik was michal, the Pasuk uh made a chilik, clear chilik separated it by the word zera, and therefore um you can compare the two. In this case, it could mean a negative thing. Where does it mean a positive thing? Where it's together. Not Zerah Odam Zera Behemah. That's when it's going to be a positive thing, and we'll continue. So it's a gummar Simon Nikla. Okay, so Amr of Khanan, Amar of Yaqab, are edi, amr of Bishhub and Leili. Mishum Barkapora. So we're going back right now. So we were going off with some moment and we're going back to discuss a kuti. So again, the Kutim. This was why we why were we discussing the Kutim? So the answer is because again, the same thing. We start off the Gemar with a Stirah. Hakul Shaiften Shita Sin Shayro. Stirah. So one of the answers, and this was I think Rava and Apaye. They just had a little bit of a different Hajjbin in the Hejbin itself of it, how to read the Mishnah, but they both held that it's the Rabbi's Kuti. That even a Kuti's Shita is gonna be Kasha. What's a Kuti? They came from the land of Kuta. And the question Gairi Arai saying, Gary Emmis, were they real Yiddin? Not real Yiddin. Lions scared them into uh being the Gaia. Did that count? Did it not? That's no machess. So the Abbay and Rabbah clearly are of the opinion that they are Gairi Emmess. And the question is that we know they didn't really keep Tara Mitzh 100%. They kept Tarashabiksab, they didn't keep Tarashabah. Even Tarashabah, they did keep certain things because we trust their Shita according to Abba'i Varaba. Shita has many Allah's mash we sinay. We're not worried Shema Yeshu, Shema Yidrasu, Shemaya, as we saw, like we are by the Harsh of Bakatan. But these Kutim, the point is Abba'i Varaba said that we're gonna that that's what Hakl Shaytan is coming to be marde even a kuti. So going back to the Kutim. Sort of Ravchhan bar or says in the name Rafanan bar Amr Rahan Amr of Yaqabar Edi Umr Bshuman, maybe Mishim Markhabura. This goes back to Barkhapura. That Ramagamliel Ubezdina, Ramagamliel, the Nasi, and his Bezdin, Nimdu, they all voted and they decided Al Shita's Kuti Vasrua. They asern Shita Tramakuti. So Amr L Rzela Rebi Yakabaridi. Rabzaira said to her of Yakabar Edi the following. Shemaly Shamar Rebbi, Ella Bisha'ini Sra'im al Gaba. Maybe Rebbi only heard that. This Allah that goes back to the Bezdin of Ramagamlial again, because this was uh this was Ram al Khanana number Yaqabar Edi, remember Shemal Shama Kapura. So Shemal sorry, I thought Rebbi isn't Rabbi Khanus. But no, he's talking to him. Maybe you only heard this. Shem aloy Sham al Rebbi, Shemal Isham al Rebbi, Ella Bish'aini Sra' al Iman Al Ghabav. Maybe that's only true that the Allah of Ramagamlial that they voted and they decided as a Bazdin that Kuti's Shita is Usr. Maybe that's only true when there's no Yisraal al Iman Al Ghabav. When there's no yid being I'm al Ghabav, watching that it's done okay. But if there was a yid, that was I'm al Ghabav, maybe a Kuti's Shita would be okay. So Amr Lay, he answered him back. Again, this was Rabzaira asking your Rviakabah. So Rabakabari rah Vyakabari answered back to Rebzaira. Domi Haimi Rabbanan kidloy gmiri in shishmaitza. It seems to me like this Rabban never learnt a thing. It seems like he never learned a thing. He's talking third person out of a little bit of a covenant. But he was talking to Rebzera, it seems like Rebzerira never learned anything. How can you suggest such a thing? Why? Because Bishain Israel I'm al-Gabav al-Mimra, boy. If there was no Yisrael watching him, do you even need to say it? It's so push it that the Shita's bad. Obviously that's a problem. And therefore, when Ramagamliel Bezdina voted, they obviously meant what? Even if Yisrael was watching Asrul Lachal Mushkita, so you're not allowed to eat it. So Says Gamara, okay. So they had this exchange between Rabzaira and Yaqabaridi. Ryakabaridi very nicely shut him down and said, What are you talking about? Across the board it's gonna be awesome. So Zazigamara, Keblumine, alay Kibblumine. Did Rabzera accept this from Rviakabaridi? Say, okay, I guess you're right. Remagamlio really said meant it across the board. You can never eat from a Kutishita. Or no, just because he said it in an intense way, he didn't wasn't necessarily Makabala from him. And he owes that Ramagamliel only said it when Ramagamil Baz Dinah they only voted to say that it's a problem when there was no Yisra al Imman al Gabov. Did he accept it from him? Did he not? So you might touch my bring you a riot from the following. I saw Rabyaichanon, Shacham Ishkita Skuti. He ate from the Shitavakuti. Even Ravasi himself ate from uh from uh Shhita Skuzi. Okay. And Rabzero was trying to figure this out. I don't understand. Rabychanon, Ravasi, everyone's eating from the Shita Vakuti. So let me try to figure this out. Loy Shmielahu, did they not hear Ramagamliel's Psak, right? Nimnu Vagamu, they they they they voted that you can't eat from a Shita Skuti. So did they not hear Rabu uh Ramagamal's Psak? Diabashmielhu have a Nikablila that if they would have heard the Psaq, they would have listened. And the problem was they just didn't hear it, and that's why they ate from the Shrito. Oh, in Domor, maybe Shmielahu. No, they knew gance well what Ramagamaliel said. They knew that Ramagamaliel said it's a sir, Vilaikimlua, but they didn't accept it, and that's why they held differently, and that's why they ate it. They felt it was okay, and that's why they ate from the Kutish Shita. So Hadar Pashlanafsh. So that was his question. Did they hear and they they would have gone like Ramagamaliel, they just didn't hear him, or they heard, but they didn't hold like him. So says the Gemara, Hadar Pashla Nafseh, he was punished for himself. He answered the question to himself, and he said, Mistabra the Shemiluhu, I think it's Mistabur, that he they did hear of Ramagamal's Psach that it's Osir. So why'd they eat it? Because they didn't accept what he said. They argued and they felt that the Shita Skuti is gonna be okay. Why? The Issaqadat, meaning why did he decide that? I mean afshe, right? Why did he decide that that's more mistabir? The issaw qadat Shemiluhu, the Avalashmieluhu, have the Mikablu, because if really he would have held that they just didn't hear it, and if they heard what Ramagamliel said, they would have accepted it. So really they were doing something in error, right? Because they why were they eating from Shita Skuti? Because really they didn't hear what Ramagam liel said, but they would have listened and they wouldn't have done it. So then how could this have happened? We're talking about the great Amarim of Yahvasi, and therefore how could this have happened? What's the problem? Hey Kim Istaimilsa, Lemaikhalisura, how could it have happened? Meaning again, if they would have gone like Remagemal, if they heard, then what comes out? That's really the Allah. And when they what they did was wrong, because they did it out of out of an error. It's not that they passed indifferently and they knew what he said. No, they just didn't hear and they would have gone differently, and therefore it comes out that they it is sir. Hey Chem istai milsah, lemechalisurah. Hashta behemton shah sadiqim, the famous line, Hashtah, we know that behemoth and shalikim in a khajjbah maybe takala alion. Even the behema that belongs to a tzadik, a qadjbahu doesn't bring a taqullah through that behema. Like imagine we're gonna bring a story of Pinchas Binar, the Dankhir of Pinhazpinyar, etc. The point is, even a behema that belongs to a tzadik, a kudash barhu doesn't bring a taqullah through the behema. So tzadiq and atzman like also themselves, for sure, a qadjbaru is not gonna make them be nichshal in uh like this. By the way, famous Tysis right here, you can check it out. Tysus asked, it's a Tema because we find Sadiqim that do uh we we find uh specifically uh Yehuda bin Tamay Shaharag Aid Zimim, he killed the aid Zim the wrong way. We find different cases where Tsadiqim are nixhal in certain things. This is the famous Titus answer I may read the dafka bibididahila. This is only this line that Aina could broke, maybe to call even the behent and shot Sadiq and Atsman like calls again, tafkabidahila. Only when it comes to mididahilah, and it makes a brunch a bunch of rise, as you see. Tadiikim Hashem's not never gonna make them be nichal in Achiloh. Maybe the reason is, by the way, because Achilo is already Timtomalev. It doesn't really, it's not really talling in your chuvar or not, it's other things. You can always be Machapur. Timtomalev is not really, it's kind of a built into nature that it's gonna have a Pagam. And therefore Khajrahu protects Tzadikim Mimididahila from being nichal in Mididahilah, but not necessarily other things. Very uh very uh famous twists over here. But either way, what? Either way, the question is that it must be he said that really they heard of Ramagamal, they just didn't agree. That's why they ate from the Shita de Kuzi, because again, if they if really the reason was that they Pasha didn't hear it, but they would have gone like him, so it comes out they were Niksha, and we know that can't happen to Tzadikim. If you're gonna tell me again, so we just brought this whole back and forth as a as a Tashmah to figure out if Rabzera was Mekabah what Rabyakibara said to him when Rabzaira asked Rabiakah Baridi. Maybe Rab Gamaliel only said that you can't eat from the Shita of a Kuti. Maybe he only said that when there's no Israel watching him, but when there is a Israel watching him, maybe it's gonna be okay. So Rabiakabahidi said to him, uh dummy hai uh banan, kidalike Mirian Shishmaitza like as if he never learned anything. Rab Zay, you never learnt anything. Of course, Ramil said it across the board. And you can never eat from the shita of the Kuti, even if Israel is Lamar al-Gab, because that's Pashit. So when Ramil said it, it for sure meant even if Yisral is Lamar al-Gabab, uh, you're not gonna be able to eat from the Shita. So the Gemars asked Kiblaminah or like Kiblamineh, was he Makabalit, this Tajha from Rabiakabaridi, or was he not? And he really still holds himself that Ramagamil only said it when there's no Yisrael there. But when there is a Yisrael there, you're gonna be able to eat from the Shet of the Kuti. So that's gonna from this whole exchange that he heard, he saw Rabychanan and Rabasi eating from the Shita de Kuti, and he was trying to figure out what they held. Did they hear of Ramagamileel? Did they not hear Ramal? And he figured it out by himself, they did hear of Ramaliel because it must be they just held differently because they wouldn't have been Nikshal. So be Issaqadlaminay. If you're gonna tell me Ribzaira wasn't Mikabel from Rabyakabaridi, and really he really still thought there was a chilik, then Lishni Leh. He should have just answered his whole question in his head of what's going on over here. How could Rabyak or how could Ryakan and Rvasi eat from the Sheit of Akuti? What about Ramagamliel? Why shouldn't he have just answered what he felt himself? Now what? Kan Kish Israel Ibn Al-Gab? Kan Kish A'i'israel Ibn al Gaba. Very good. You want to know what Raby's and R'A'A'si ate from the Shita of Aquti? Because they saw is Ibn al-Gaba. And where did Ramagamliel say you can't? Kisha Ain Israel Ibn al-Gaba. Very clear chilik. So from the fact that he didn't say that, and he came up with his old kaira, it's mistabir, that really they heard and they argued because Ashta, because they would have done an Isr, and Khajbah was not made called Yud Sadiqim, there would have been a way simpler answer. You didn't have to go that far. Just say it's not a Kasha Baklah. Remagamil said the case where there's no Yisrael, and they were eating from a Shita of a Kuti where there was a Israel Ibn al Ghabab. And therefore, Shma'minah, Shma'minah, that what? Kiblamineh Shmah clearly he accepted what Rabbi Akabari told him that you have no idea what you're talking about, you've never learned anything. Of course, Sir Magamniel said it across the board that you can never eat from a shita of a kuti, even if there's a israel I mean al Ghaba. Good job.