Chulin 6

Daf Yomi

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Alright, Khulinda Vov, we're gonna start. We left off yesterday. Four lines from the top of Avmaralafum Maita Gosbru Muhu Rabbanans. What are we talking about? We're talking about the Khutim, which we know are a certain sect of people that we got introduced to. Just the who were the Kutim. First of all, how did we get here? Just to follow the paper trail. We start off with the Mishnah. We're still in the beginning of sugiyas over here in Musa's Khullen, and we start off with a stira. Hakul Shaytin and then Ushkita Singh Shayra. So Hakul Shaythin is Mashmah Le Khathilah. So one of the answers we brought, really two of the answers, it was both Abai and Raba. It's really coming Lirabah something, and it's coming to be Marbe Kutin. That even a kuti is gonna be able to do shthitah and his shahitah is gonna be okay. That's what it's coming to be. Marb, and therefore it's not a stira. It's not coming to tell you it's done the khathilah and then bidyavid. Shitasangshaira means bidyyavid, but we learnt it into the Mishnah. If it's coming to be marbe something, it's going to uh answer the question. And therefore, that's what Rabban Abaya say. They have a different way of explaining how it reads into the Mishnah, but they both said and answered the Stira that we started off with in the Gemara in the beginning of the Massahtah, saying that it's coming to be Marbe Akuti. That what? Akuti? If he does Shita, it's gonna be Kasher. Um, and there's not gonna be a problem with that. Who were the Kutim? Because we're about to very much get into that. So just to refresh, they were a people that came from a land called Khuta. They were brought in by specifically the king Shaman Assar, and he was the king of Ashur, which is Assyria. And the reason why he brought them in is because he exiled at first the Assar as Shvatim, and he didn't want the whole north of Eritral to be completely barren, he didn't feel it was good, it could open for attackers and different things and different Indianim. That's why he brought and he started he moved a lot of people around and he brought the Kutim to settle up north in Eritral. The Kutim, they there's a big obviously question. We we uh we went through this. You have to hold of it if you hold that the Mishnah's marbit, you have to be of the opinion like a Bay and Rabbah that they're Gaire MS. But it always comes up in Shash with a Gaira Arayas with an Aleph or the Gaira Geire MS. Why? Because they got scared into being Megaira by lions, right? Lions came, they started eating people up, and therefore uh they took it as a sign that they should be Megaire. So there was always a question between the Khachamim, was that a sincere Gairis? Was it not a sincere Gaius because they did it at gunpoint or not? So that was the question. So if you hold the mission is coming to be Marbad, then so it was a sincere Gaires, and you hold that they're Gaira MS. But either way, the Kutim, by the way, they're still there today. If you want to go, the Gamaran Saita, Lamid Gimel, I'm pretty sure it talks about um it talks about the Khutim in detail. The Mishnah goes on that there were the Shomranim, it calls them still the today. We call them also Shomronim, Samaritans, if you want to know. And it details the Mishnah exactly where they are. They're on Har Grizim by Shem, and the Har Grizim are able. Well, not the better ones, Samaritans. They still Adayam Azekeep a certain version of Terchabah. They have the old Ksav of Ksav Ivri. The Tyr was originally given in a different you know the old Hebrew, so that you could like barely read the letters, it looks like Chinese. They still have that. You go there, they have a they have a whatever you call a synagogue, whatever you want to call that thing. They're obviously, you know, kifrim and tsudakim and whatever, but not the tsidakim, they believe the same, almost came out the same thing as the tzedaichim. They believe in Tara Shibik Shabiksaw. Actually, saw there was a guy, um, there's like a historian, Israeli historian, he does all these random things. He went there a couple of days ago. They separate they celebrated Pesach a couple of days ago. They had the they did the Shit of the Carbon Pesah. They hold hard reason. What?

SPEAKER_01 3:16

The Amshanov is saying Shtikal. What?

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Uh yeah, exactly. But they hold that um they hold that the holy place in Eritasral is not harabais, it's it's hard reason. That's where they set up their whole thing. They used to have a temple there today today. They still have some sort of thing. But they held, and by the way, because the Tarzh Biksaavan is no Tarzh Biksh doesn't say anything about your shalim. It says Mukamashuid Kharashem. And they interpreted that from the Brahus and Klah, this is hard grizzan, there's a whole thing, whatever. They're still there, they am doing a certain version of whatever they're doing. There's some shamroni, and they're exactly where the Gemara says they are. They're still there and they're still doing the same thing. What?

SPEAKER_02 3:49

They're maybe Messiah or something. Where is it located?

SPEAKER_00 3:52

That's the you could have asked them back then as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Hard grizzan. Go to Shkem. Render Shem. Right in your shame. Yeah, you could go, you could see them. They were in film?

unknown 4:01

Probably the point in their eyes.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

They have they have some uh I don't know, I don't know. Their whole they have Kohanim Gidoilin, they have they have they have all these weird stuff. But the May saw, yeah. So there so there was a whole question, are they Gere MS Gare Arayas? And according to the Sheetas that included them, we got into the sugio. That's how we got to discussing the Kut. And we saw yesterday that Ramagamliel's Ubezdino and Nimnu Vigamro, they decided and they voted that you cannot trust the shahita of a kutti. And by the way, you're gonna talk like obviously there's things in shark, we keep mentioning this, but there's things in sharkta that you need to babh as well for. There's all these alachumashamasinae that you need in Hilchashita, and still, according to Ab'aya Varava, it's coming to be marbadam that you could trust their shita. So it's not exact that's why you see it's not exactly, he's not considered 100% like a tzadaiki that only believes in Tarshab and not Tarashabapah. It's mainly that, but there are also some things that they were macabre in their Messirah that uh they do perfectly, like shritah if you're gonna trust their shrita, they obviously have to do it with all the lachum ashimesina, uh, andrasano, uh you know, we're not worried about the things like a Kher Shah Vakaton, Shema Yeshu, Shama Yidusu, Hashemiachlidu, all these different sullim, etc. But Lamait Sir and Magamlia yesterday, Ubez Dino, were they voted and decided that you cannot eat the shita from a kusi. And says the Gemar, the Gemar picks up over there four lines from the top of Manalef, my time of Gazra Ghazrubu Rabbanan. Why were the Rabbanan Ghazir against the Khutim? To consider them, uh, we're gonna see today, like basically Gaium. We consider them like Gaim. Why? So Kihad Rashmin Man Lazar, there was a story, it's based on a story that Ram Shim al Azar shaderated a mayor in the Asuy Khamra midekusa. He sent Ramair to go get some wine from the Khutim. Ashkei Ausaba. So on his way, on our mayor's way, he finds Haus Saba, this old man. This is the famous Tysus right here, by the way, that says, Haus Saba Yesh Ma'farshim the Homakam Shu Mazkir. Ha'us Saba Eliyo. There's Me'farshim that says, Anytime you see Ausaba, it's Eliya'a Navi. The lesser-known part of Tisus is the second part where he says, the eyeshallemark. And you can't say that because he brings, and this is amazing, from the Gemara, Shabbas Daf Lamid Gimel goes into Lamedal that you're saying quoted. But Ubdah the Basham Menechai. Lamid Gimel is of course the story of Lagba'imer Basham and Manichai in the cave, and Ao-Saba over there. Haus Saba the Gemar brings when he came out of there, when Rajbi came out of the cave, and someone was. There was A U Saba that was Milaig on Ribbusham. He was making fun of him, he was tear tveria, we say in the song, right? He was the whole story. He wanted to do something for the tibur. So he was matire, certain places in Tverya that where there was also all this suffic tumma. And there was Aus Saba that was melagling on him, and he did his uh Nasan Ainov Bai and zapped him up, burned him into crisp. So obviously that's not Eliyawa Navi, that Haus Saba. So that's what Tiz over here says. But maybe all the other ones are Haus Saba is generally Elioanavi. Um that comes from this Tizavab. But either way, he finds Haus Saba. And Aus Saba says to a mayor that Amrale Isam Tasakin Bileho. In Bal Nefashata. He quoted a Possak saying basically, put a knife in your cheeks. Basically, don't eat what you're about to eat, don't drink what you're about to eat. You're about to buy wine from the Kutin. Don't do that. Put a knife in your cheeks, make sure you don't do that. So Allah Rashman al Lazar see, Dvarim Lefnair Mayor. So sorry, Ramair, who sent who over here? Shadir Rab Meir. Ramir sent Rub Shimon bin Alazar. Which makes more sense. Rashim al Lazar was generally Rajbi's uh grandson, right? Rabbi Lazar ben Rab Shimon, and then Rashiman bin Allazar, and Rajbi was an acquaintance of Rab Meir. So it would make sense that if someone's sending someone, it would be the older one Rav Meir sending Ribbsham al Lazar over here. So Reb Shim alazar came back to Ramair. The Ghazar Alane. So he told him what happened, that I met the O Sabah. He told me this pasuk, don't trust it, don't do what you're about to do. And based off of this, the Ghazar Alane, our mayor was Geyser. And he was Geyser not to uh you're not allowed to get anything from the Khutim. Basically, that they should be like Goim we're about to see. So it's gonna be my time. What is the reason though? And here we're gonna see the actual reason why we're Gaiser on the Kutim. Because Amr of Nachumra It's look, Demus Yoina Matzaila and Beraishagrizim. And the extra piece of information that happened over here was that they found the Demus Yina, the uh the Dmus of uh bird on the top of Har Grizim, which is where they are, where the temple is, and they found the Demusyana, which basically means they were serving it, which basically makes them Ayydeva Dazara. If they're Avdazara, they turn into the the Mummer Laidas Kaichavim, at least that, right? Like we saw yesterday. And this guy's gonna be considered like a guy. And that's why there were guys around the Kutim that you're not gonna be able to uh take from the shiit, they're not gonna be able to take from their wine. It's the it's gonna be considered Yahinash again because they're Avdazara, by the way, very interesting. Tysis, the second Tis over here. We don't usually do every Tisis, but uh the little tidbits will do. But right Shah Grizim Bimidj, we bring he brings a midrish, a medrish that what? That that dmusyina that they worshipped on Har Grizim was the Avaid Zara that Yaakud Avinu hid takas aele by her shem. Right? They invaded Shem. He took it and he said, uh wipe your hands clean from the Avaidas Khavim. And they took the tall the Shvatim and they took the Avoidzara from Shem and he put it under the Eloh. So that Shem, by the way, Har Grizim is Shem, that's where it is. So that is Zaktaisus, that is uh the Avaidizara that they had, that Yaqab Avinu took from Shem originally. That's what they were serving, and that's what they found in their temple on Har Grizim, and that's why we're Geyser on them because they were Mumala diskochavim, terrible thing, and that is the reason for the Gzera. Okay, so you're gonna ask me, so who said they're all Ivdeva Dazar? Maybe some of them says Gamar, we're mayle to me. This is Remela Shetasa, the Hai Slamyuta, who's always Haishla Meyuta. So even though a miat of them are maybe Avdeva Desar, because it was for sure there, some of them were doing it. So we're gonna be Geyser, because I ruba Otum Yuta, we're Geyser on the Riv on everyone the Miyat that's serving now by the Zar. Whatever. Remliel based Dinah Nami Kramasilo. And the Ramagamil based Dinah that voted yesterday to say that they're like Gaiam, we can't trust their Shita. So that is because Remagamliel also holds a Kermea, that's Hai Sum Miyuta over here. So okay, so we just quoted a posik, so let's try to figure this out. Pashty the Kabamaxiv. By the way, that Posuk we said, Vesamta Sakin Bilecha put a knife in your cheeks. So that posik, what's the pashtras? So what's Pashabshan in the Pasuk? So obviously we used it, that's a play on words that he used to tell Ribbshim al Azar. But what is the Pashtras of that Posuk? So the Talmud Ayashabufne Rabbi, it's referring to a Talmud that's sitting in front of his Rabbi. We're just gonna quote the full pasik. So this is how you understand it. If the Talmud is sitting in front of his Rebbe, and he has a question, yes, his Rebbe, and he knows that the Rebbe knows how to answer his question, then Bin, ask it. But means ask over here. Vim lov. And if you know that your Rebbe's not gonna know the answer to this question, then Thomin Esashalafanacha. Try to figure it out yourself. Try to come up with your own understanding. And put a knife in your cheeks not to answer. Don't answer maybe not to ask it. Don't ask it if you know that he's not gonna know the answer. And in Balnafishtah, Pray Shamana. And if you're a Balnafesh, then you should realize you have a Rebbe that doesn't know how to answer your questions. And Pray Shah, separate from him, find yourself a Rebbe who could answer your questions. By the way, where do we see Pray Shaymana? So for the third titles today, right there. Because the end of the post continues and don't uh take from what he has to offer. Don't take from his goods. And therefore we see that in Baal Nefeshata, what should you do? Pray Shaymana, you find a different Rebbe that's gonna be able to answer your questions. So Ribitsu Bayoise. So Rabavo sent him to bring wine again from the Khutin. So Ashkhe U Saba, this was later on, these are Amburam we're talking about. So Saba again finds um him. This is hundreds of years later, and Amalha told him, Less can Shamritaya. There's no Shamritay over here. And therefore, don't do what you're about to do. Don't buy wine from them. Holo Kh Rabitsak, Visipnir Abavo. Rabitsuck went and he said over what happened before Abovo. And Rabovo went and said it over before Rivamirvasi, who were considered the two Dayanim, the two big Dayanim of Eritas. And they didn't move from there until they implemented a taccana to render the Kutim Oivde Kehavim Gimurim complete Goim. So that's the Gamar. Okay. So they're considered Oyvde Kham Gimurim. They had the status of Goim. Lemai, for what? That's how that's what they're considered going for. So may Hasam Goser Barabana. That already happened earlier on, hundreds of years earlier. Ramagamliel and his best din were named to become a Rav Mayr. Uh Rav Mayer established that as well. We're talking about Tanaan before Ramagamliel especially. If we're talking about Ramagamil, Diyabna, that's uh that's one of the first Tanoim. Where and her mayor for sure, early Tana. So over here, Ravani Ravasi, Amoiroyan, they were Gaiser later on. What? They made the same Gezeer later on. What does that even mean? It was it was previously established by Tanaim. So the Gamara, inu Gazer, but like Luminaya, I'll tell you what happened. Really, yeah. Remagamliel and her mayor were Geyser, but it didn't it didn't get accepted by the Klau. It didn't get accepted by the Klau. We know Klau Israel sometimes um maybe it was a Gzaira Shaina Kzibura Yocholamoid, but we know that uh sometimes it just doesn't uh it's not Mekub sometimes. Uh Sir Ramirvasi, by the time it came along to Ramirvasi, Gazrubi Kibluminayu. At that point, they renewed this Takana, this Gzaira, and then it was accepted by the Hamoinam to consider Uvdi Khavim, uh to consider the Kutim Avdi Khavim. What does it mean that they're of the Kamikamura? It's like Levato Rushus Velit in Rashus. It means it has enough kamina legabe eruvehatseris. We know that if you have uh chhatr mishutafis, you have a chatzer, and there's a bunch of entranceways to different houses. So if you want eruvi chatzer for Shabis, what are you gonna? You're gonna need everyone to be Mishtatif together, but only if they're Jews. Because we know Gim cannot, unless they give Rashus, we're about to see, they're not gonna be able to be Mishhtatif. So this Kuti is gonna be considered 100% like an Akam Legabe Yur Ari Eruvi Hatzer. So Gatatani, we found that in the Brahsa. Israel Mummer, Shamash Shabbat Bishuk. Israel Mum, Ms. Shabbar Shabbat Abishok, sorry. A Yisra Mummer, that what kind of Israel Mummer is he? He's off the Derah. But what kind? He's not uh doing it with Farhesio. He's Mishamr Shabbat Abishuk, he keeps Shabbos in the shok, which means Bitharhesia, he keeps Shabbis. But uh Bitsen, he doesn't keep Shabbos.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

He has the same problem with Khatsi and all with the Khatya.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

We're talking about not the Feresia.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

I'm saying with Paper Hesia.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Yeah, but they we're about to say in the Brahsa that what? We saw yesterday.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

Is this Kusi even a lower target? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Uh here. I don't think you see from here, but but we see. I'm trying asking you. I I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I hear what's what's a Kuti versus Israel Mummer. Israel Mummer's pr pretty bad. We saw yesterday if you don't keep Shabbos, we saw yesterday Rashad says we we we equate not keeping Shabbos with the Vital Zara because it's Mam is being clay for my sober issues.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Is Imam is a wonderful question.

SPEAKER_03 14:20

Okay, look, give me an answer tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

By tomorrow? What about in two days? I put this tomorrow. I hear, I hear, we'll try it, we'll try it. So send the Gemara You got me an answer as well.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Nowadays it's not enough coming in. Yeah, watch, watch, watch. Here, he's got an answer for you. Those days then so no one would not keep shot with number for us, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

It's like in the general concept we find today is another he knows what Shabbos is.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

He knows what Shabbos is, but he knows one for him because this guy, Mishamar Shabbat Bishok, so you saw a moment shot of Shabbat Bishok.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

Again, he keeps Shabbos in the shok. But farhesio he keeps Shabbos in private, but he does not keep Shabbos. He can be Mitsharaf to your Aruba Chatters. If he is Mihal Shabbis, but Farhesio, even in the shok he doesn't keep Shabbos. Ain't a Mivathanais and Rushus, he cannot be Mitshatif in your Arubachateris, and he's not gonna be able to be Mivatal Rishos Venice and Rushus. You're gonna have to take it from him, you're gonna have to uh, as we're gonna see, just like a guy. You have to rent his place from him. You have to mamesh do a kinyon and rent his place from him. So this is Shaw Muhr, that's not that's not Mishama Shabbat Bishok or the Kuti, as we're gonna see, that's the Nafkamino we have over here. Your mamish gonna have to rent the place from him just like you do by a guy, and that's how you're gonna have um to opt in or to opt out from the reshuss for Irubi Chatzer's to have it on Shah's Kitzan. So how do you have to do it? Meaning, do you need a legitimate Kenyon to rent the guy's place for this in Iruba Chatzeris or not? So I'm always Reshusi Knuyalcha, Reshusi Mabutalis l'ha Kana, as long as he says that the guy just says my Rushus is uh you know, you own it now, it's uh Knuya over to you, or mevutil over to you, that's gonna be good enough. Ain't it Lazakis? You have to you don't have to do a whole gansa kinyan, that's gonna be good enough. It doesn't have to be a whole Kenyan over here for this inion. Rivzir Ramasi, they came to the pundik, the inn, in this place called Yoy. Isa Kamay baitzim, hamitsumako is biyayin. So the pundikis or whatever it is, they brought before them, it was breakfast time, they brought eggs that were mixed in with wine. It was uh some type of dish that had wine mixed in with eggs. Okay, so Ribzera didn't need it. Ravasi alfa Ravasi ate it. So I'm Rivzer, Ravassi Rivzir, so Travasi Vloy Kaishmar the Taruvis Demai. Are you not worried about a taruvis of Demai? Meaning because of course the pundikis was uh Amaaretz, because that's uh why we're worried about Tamai. Temai is any food from Ama Oretz. Again, what's Demai? It's a suffic whether Trumas and Maestras were talking about taking off. Because we know that Roy va me oret me aster, but there's a meat that isn't, and that's why Dmai Midrabonan is stuff that came from Amoretz. You're not sure if he did or not, because really roy is. Midaris it's okay. Midrabonon, there are guys that you have to take off from Temai, Trumas and Maestr. So that's what's demai is. So you're not worried about Tamai. This came from the Amarets. You have wine in here. Wine, of course, is subject to Trumus and Maestris. So why are you not worried? Why are you not worried over here? Tarub is demai, says the Gemara. So Amrale, so he said, Lavatata, you're uh actually I didn't know I didn't realize. You're right. This is totally a thing to worry about, and I didn't realize that's why I ate it. So Ravzera Ravzer was very bothered about this. That Rivasi made a mistake and ate something that maybe is Oscar. Fsur Ghazra Al-Tarubas Demai. So, sorry. Um Lavatatai. So Amr Rzer. F. Gazra Al-Tarub's die. So Ravzaira, when he realized that Ravasi really made this mistake, so he he took a step back and he said, you know what? Maybe there's no issue with Tarubas Mai anyways. Why? Because if there was an issue with the Tarubas of Demai, then it wouldn't have happened. It wouldn't have happened that Ravasi could have eaten this. Why? Because it's a famous line, and we're already quoting this for the second time. Hashtabehemton shall tzadiq in a khadjbaro, maybe takal al-yadh. Ma'adakh the Behema that belongs to its bar, who doesn't make the tzadik be nichsh through the behema, like we're gonna see, I think on tomorrow's daff with the Punakh's Banyar, the story of the donkey, etc. So tzadikim outside Oshkin. So for sure, Kabukh and the Tzadikin themselves, they're not gonna mean nixhal. I enticed this yesterday. We saw a dafkum when it comes to Bemidida Akhilah. This whole concept of a taqik al-Kajbrah is not gonna make him mean nichal, it's only Bemidida Akhila. It's not as it relates to other things. Other things, you gotta be careful, you gotta watch yourself. You gotta watch yourself, obviously, by Kashmir as well. But this of Thaqah that Ibrahim is not maybe Takaliya. Tzikim is only by Midi the Akhilah I enticed this for those rides. But the point is that it must be Cesar Bzir from the fact that Ravasi could have made this mistake, it must be that this thing is Bakal Mutr. It's okay. And why would it be okay, by the way? Because Dhmai itself, in its purest form, Dmay is only a Dharabanan, right? Maybe he wasn't Mahasr. So take off masses yourself. Whereas a taruvas of Demai, that's already a step down. A taruvas of Demai, maybe the Rabana weren't geyser, and that's why he said maybe this is actually not a problem. So Nafa Kurbzera, Dok the Ashkach. So he went out and searched, and he said he tried to figure out I want to find them according to this idea that a taruvas demai does not have a problem, which is why uh Ravasi ate this, and it wasn't a Takola that I could just brought who brought, because that's impossible. So what did he find? He found a Mishnah it's not. We have a Mishnah, and I think some of your soyes have ditanyo. He actually found a braisa. So thein loses Lizoi Ha Murya. So someone who bought wine to put inside Murrias, some type of fish dish, they was very common back in the day. Like tchina to grind it up. Adoshim Lasman Resisim, or he bought lentils to make uh resisan, also some type of uh to grind it up, so make some type of dish. The point over here is Hai Misham Dmai. He's gonna be Chaiv in Maysris Misham Dmai, meaning it's gonna be considered but my is gonna be Haiv, Sarchle Misham Vada. Obviously, if it's Vada, you know maicris weren't taken off. Obviously, you have to, again, Tmai is only a suffix. Vada for sure. But those so that's if someone's like, right? He takes these things, or he's uh Lake Yain Lassis Lisa Khamari. So why did he buy the wine? Again, what did he buy? He didn't buy a mixture of something, he bought wine to put in mortis, or he bought something else to put in, but he bought a pure form of something. So that is where he's going to be high in the mind. He's gonna be hai to be master like regular demai. But those taruvas themselves, once you have the final dish, let's say you bought the final dish, which is basically what? A tarubas of demai, because it was already pre-prepared. So you already have the tarubas of demai, the hey natun, mutarin. That's mutter, you don't have to take off my so I'm in penish and tarubas because it's tarubas. So he went, nafak dok the ashka. It's actually a mefirst of raisil. It's actually a mafirushabriso that if it's a tarubas demai, there's no problem. And I've seen that ate from this tarubas that the pundikis gave him of the that was really a tarubas demai, no problem, it was not a tacola, because hash to behemtun shall t's and a kidjob was not maybe takala, but sadik and asman loy kol shikane. And it's amazing. That was basis, by the way, for trying to figure this out. It must be this is the aloha. Let me find the braisel. It happens to be that was the aloha. He found in the braisel. Says Nigamar. Is that true though? We weren't goyser on tarubasmai. Someone who gives to his neighbor, and the neighbor was in Amoret. Um, so he gives her uh Issa, he gives her uh dough, leaf was to bake, or kidair the basha, and he gives her the kader to bake it in um or to cook something else in. Ainoi hoysish listed or vitablon chabo. He doesn't have to be worried, right? Sorry, each one is going back on its own thing. This or is going back to the dough, tablin's going back to the dish, he gives her something to cook. Two different cases. But the point is he doesn't have to be hush that she put in her own ingredients. Why would that be a problem? Because she's uh uh almas, right? She's uh she's a problem, and that's why we don't have to be hush, she used her own ingredients. You gave her her your dishes, your ingredients. She could bake everything, you don't have to be worried. Okay. Again, we don't have to be worried that she put in her own stuff. We're not hoishish for Shviyas. We're not hoishish that she used her own stuff that maestres weren't taken off, or it's macer itself. We're not worried. Vim Abalani If he told her, Asila, Asili Mishelichi. Make it from your own ingredients. Here's the dishes. Make it from your own ingredients. Then it's hoisish with Tam and Jamal. Then you have to be worried for the Sa'or and Tablin that's in this. But what do we see over here? That we're clearly worried about a tarubas dmai. Once you make it, you give it her the thing, use your own ingredients. Once you use your own ingredients, you make the whole mixture and you cook this thing, whatever you're making, it's a tarubas. None of the day. D'mai, whatever she has is d'mai, yeah. But once she makes the the cooks the food, bakes the bread, it's a tarub's demai. And we see we are worried about it. Says the Gemorah Shaniasam, it's different over there. The came in armallah Asi Lee Michalih. Since he says, do it from your own stuff, he mamesh gave her the command to do it. Command the arviadim, that's as if he did it, mamesh with his own hands. It's as if he did it with his own hands, and that's why it's gonna be a problem. But if she made it and then gave it to, that's not gonna be a problem. Rafra Mamara, different answer. Shani se orvitablin to let Se'ar and Tablin, tablin's spice, obviously it's coming to give time to give taste. That's not gonna be bottle, even in tarubas, that's why there's not a question. So it's gonna be okay. One thing I just saw from what we said though is that we're not worried that they're gonna switch it out, right? If you give her your pots and your ingredients, we're not worried the khla that she's gonna switch it out. We're only gonna be worried when she uses her own ingredients. But if you give her yours, we're not worried the khalufis. Is that true? We're not worried that she's gonna switch it out. Someone who gives his shvigger, um sorry, Hanasin the chamais. Someone who gives his shvigger uh stuff to cook. And this shvigger is an amarret. So he gives her stuff. So Ma'asr is Shiru Nice in law, he has to take off maestrus from whatever he's giving her. Why? Because you can't be maqshuler. You can't give her something and she's gonna eat it without maestrus taking off. That's why you have to take off maestrus before you give it to her. And the al-shu naital mena, whatever you take back from her once it's ready, you also have to take maestrus off of that. Why? Because we're worried, and she's Hashuda, that she's gonna switch out the bad stuff. If there's an ingredient going bad, she's gonna switch it for her own stuff. That's still good. She wants to make a good cake over here, and therefore she's gonna switch it out for her own stuff. That's why when you give it to her, you have to take off maestrus. When you take it back from her, maybe she was machlefin, and that's why you have to take off maestrus again. So, what do we see? Clearly, we are worried that they're gonna switch it out. So the gummar, no, hossam over there, it's different. Kiditani, or other gears uh kidik toni taima, umar ribu da Roitze Hibitakanas Bito Baisha Mehasana. The reason is because she really wants good for her daughter. She doesn't want her daughter to have a spoiled dish over here. She wants good for her daughter. Not only that, she's embarrassed from her her son-in-law. And that's why she wants to uh present a good dish over here. So if they give her a spoiled ingredient, she's gonna spit uh switch it out for for a good one, even on her own. And that's why it's different by Chamaisa, whereas in another case, random pundikis, they don't care. She's not gonna uh she's not uh there's no swara of Rai Tsi Bitakana's beetle boyshami baila or uh boy shame chasana, and that's why over there you're not gonna have the reasons. I was like, Well, really? That's only by the Shvigger you have this swara, Alamal Hashina, but regular pundikis or regular uh anyone else, we're not gonna be chosen, uh the chilufe, but nah, but I'm a mishnah, I'm nice in the pundikish loi, someone who gives a pundikis again. This uh pundikis, so what does he do? That says it's exact in whatever you give her, and whatever you get back from her, you have to take my stuff again. And the reason is because she has and this is not your shvigger, this is random pundakis, and still um we're worried that she's gonna switch it out. No, that case is also different because that case is talking about you have to know the context over there. But the case is talking about uh Tamil Khacham, a barbi Rab, as the Gemara says, it's Tamil Khafam that's staying by the pundakis. That's where she stayed. This was the lady that took care of the yeshiva dorms or whatever it was, and therefore she has a certain uh Hashivas that she holds for the uh for the Bakram. And that's why Hosum Nani Mury of Amr, she's like Muraheta for herself, and she feels Barbi Rab, Lechho Khamima, Vani, Barbi Rab, Lechokhima, Vani echo Karira. I'm gonna give him the good stuff, the barbi rab, the tamilchum, let me give him from the good stuff, and I'll eat the bad stuff, I'll eat the karira. And therefore, she also has a swara why she's gonna switch it out, but a random no shaichis pundikis in a regular case, alloy chashinon. It says like a mar, really? Haloufe loi chashinon. So Aishes Khabar to Khanasam Aesh Amaret. The wife of uh Tamil Khachama Khaver can be, can grind, can be in the kitchen with an ashes amoreth, mismanche e tameya, only when the ashes khaver is tameya. Now, this is back in the day where they where they were always uh shimer on tomatahira, especially ashes khaver, she never would touch food if she's uh tmayah. And that's because they used to eat khotchim. We saw that many Tamil Khachalim were niz or even ate chulin bitahara. But the point is that what, and that haphsanakhkamina, we saw in the beginning of the sahta even mahalha of being uh of shachting chulin uh betoma, as we saw. But the point is that what that the Aceus Hover she could work in the kitchen with the Aishus Ama'areth, but only when the Aishus Khover is Tameya, and the reason is because she's not gonna come to eat the food. If she was if she was Tehoira, then she's touching all the food anyway. If she's Spanish, she's not touching the food. If you're not touching the food, you're not gonna come to eat the food. If she's to hira, she would be touching the food. We're worried, she's gonna eat from the food, and uh she might come to eat some of the food from the Amaris. From the Ashis Amaris, it's gonna give her some food, and that's gonna be a problem. Avalab is man she's hard, but again, not when she's Tehoira, because again, therefore she could when she's tired, she could touch the food. If she could touch the food, she's gonna come to eat some of the bad stuff. So Rab Shiman Malazra's man she's mea tithin. Even when she's tame, she shouldn't. Why? Maybe she's not gonna touch it, but her friend, the Amarat, can still give her, and she's gonna eat from there. So what do we see from here? This is Ama'arat is taking from her food. And this sugi is predicated on the fact that Mashikana Isha Kanabailo. So is it her food to give? No, it's her husband's. And she's taking from the food, and we're worried, this whole Xer, she's gonna give it to her neighbor, the Aesha's Khaber, to eat. T'meya, tehari, a different sheetas. The point is, she's giving it to eat. It's not yours to give, it's your husband's. So hashta mixal gazda, khilov mi bai. So over here, she doesn't care about stealing. So khilouf me by to switch it out. Of course she would switch it out. Why wouldn't she switch it out? Over there, also, there's a different spar over there. It's not like every other case because over there she's gonna say she's cooking. And again, she's in the kitchen with her. She could say, Taramig me uh that the shar eats fra while it's threshing. This comes from the love of La Sakshum Shrabadisha. And you can't muzzle it while it's threshing, it's doing its work, so you allow it to eat. The woman's working in the kitchen, so she's allowed to eat. She's marrhetr, so okay, I'll give her some a little a little bit as well, and that's why that would be different. So even though she would uh give, we're both working in the kitchen over here, so we could eat from it. That doesn't mean necessarily that she's gonna, even though it might be gzelo, la aloha, but she is mariahatur to herself, and therefore there's a spark to say that she wouldn't go as far, even though it might be further, but she wouldn't go as far as to be machlif, whatever it is, in a different type of situation. And over here it goes into the next open. We'll hold it over here.