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Today's Kulindaf Kufchhaf Hey, and we're gonna start where we left off yesterday by the words Balmine Riv Avya Saba, me, Rabba Baravhuna, probably about a third of the way from the bottom of Kufchov Dalid. Amar Bay. So we're here, we're ending off the sugiya, right before the Mishnah, kind of in the middle of where we left off yesterday. But we'll do this part fast and we'll start with another sugiya right now. But happens to be that the question that Rav Avya Sabah is gonna ask from Rabbaravhuna is about a coolis, and Kulis is gonna be the topic of our Mishnah that we're gonna start with uh really for the primary sugia of today. A coolis is specifically a thigh bone, but for all intents and purposes, it means a a bone with marrow. Any bone with marrow inside. So the marrow inside is a din of busser. The din of busser is uh gonna be uh metame bakazaez. But if it is completely closed up, doesn't really have holes in it, so all of a sudden you can't touch the busr itself. It becomes kind of like the R where you're touching the outside of it. Can you touch it? Can you not? It's telling you whether you can bakhulu. But what's the question? The question is we saw yesterday according to Rabbi Shmal, we saw Swara that Eshebalichlal Maga Balaklal Masa. You can only have Tumas Masa apply if Tumas Maga applies. One is Tali on the other. And we qualified that yesterday. But that is on that Allah that Rabishmal said, that's what Rabbi Islam is asking for Rabbi Baravuna. A coolist stuma, Rabbi Shma Shotama. A coolist stuma. You have a bone that has marrow inside. So there's no maga. You can't touch the marrow because it's a coolist stuma. It's a thigh bone that's completely closed off in all directions, but inside there's not. So there's no maga in this, so can it become tame masa even? Can it become tame since you can't touch the actual marrow? Isla Bishma ishabala kla maga balahla masa loibahla kla maga l'ibalakla masa is gonna apply this din. That since maga doesn't apply over here, so masa doesn't either apply, so it can't become tame. You can become tame based off this, maybe, or the opposite. And over here, what's over here? In our case, we were dealing with yesterday about the two chatzi zasim on the piece of the R of the Hulu. You have two chatzi zasim in that case, Hainu Tame Mishum the Balikla Maga, Milafanov. The reason that masa applies is because it is balaklah maga. Milafanov. If you touch it on that side, you touch it at both times. Yesh Nagev Hajja Minaga, as we saw. But the point is you could touch it, you it is Balakla Maga, and that's why it's gonna be Metamah over here. But over here, in our case, that we just brought the Kulistuma, it's not Balakla Maga, and therefore masa shouldn't even apply. Oh, Domar, maybe Leslie, maybe it doesn't hold this uh this condition. Wasn't it Schmall's condition, sorry? But uh it was a condition we we brought up yesterday, so maybe he doesn't. So does he hold it that and therefore Kulistum is not gonna be Metame? Or he doesn't hold this condition, and therefore the Kulis can be Metame Bim Masa. What are we gonna say? So Amrale, he answered him back. This is Rababaravuna answering back to Riv Aviya Sabu asked him this question. Ur of a parach, check it out, there's a raven flying by. I mean look, a bird. Meaning he changed the topic, you didn't want to answer. So Amalai told him more in Darth and say like a rib. And go play with the crowd. Oh okay, there you go. So he said uh check it out, it's uh it's a raven. So Amalai Rava Bray, so Rava's son told him, I've high near of Avi Sabam in Pumpadisa. Who are you talking to right now? Who are you shrugging off? Avi Sabah from Pumpadis of the Mishabakon Marbiga Bay to Gavarabu. You always tell us how much of a Gavarabi is, and you're not answering his questions, you're shrugging him off. Ravens are flying. So Amalai told him, he answered him back, Ania Yoim Samhuni Bashishois. Which basically, long story short, the Pasik means I need a drink. Like today, I need a drink, I'm very tired. I need a glass of wine. He was saying, and as she brings, it was if it was by the uh he gave us big shabbizdrasha, and therefore he was wiped. He was basically saying, I'm wiped out, I just give a big shabis drush. He's asking me these complicated questions in the Tamabataira, and uh therefore he wanted to change the topic. I have no craft to answer this right now. Ubami name umai after I'm wiped out, Milsa Debai Tami, he's asking me something, a very intense topic. Milsa Debai Taima, therefore, um I don't have the crypt to answer this right now. Umr Ulu Ula says, Shnechatzay Zasim, Shetochman Kesan, two half Zasim of Basir that you put into uh Kesam, you put into a toothpick, one on each side. A filumanay calling kula tar. Even if you're moving it the whole day, you're still gonna be tar, you're not gonna be tamay tomas masa. My time, what's the reason? Because the basic says vineisa. As it relates to Tamas Masah, it says vina, which is vinaise, but it doesn't say vav. It's written khasa. If it's written chasr, the kore of it is, or the khsiva of it, right, is nisa, which means to be carried. And the kreina nice. How do we read it? Naise with a vav, which means to carry. What do I learn from the Korean ksibum here? I learn beyond naise vihudanisa. I learned that you're only toma tomate tumas masa. If you're naise, you're carrying it. If it's carried the nis of a sachas, if it's carried at once. Meaning you could pick up this one thing, kha. But if it's two chatzi zaisim, it's two things that have to start being mistrved together, it's not gonna be metama tumas masa, because tumas masa has to be the niso. Has to be the noise domin the nisa, the nisa has to be nisabasahas. This is not nisam bivasachas because it's two different pieces. If you had two chatzay zaisim, it's gonna be metamid masa l'imaghaga, the verb is mahmahma. That's a ball. It's not loy nisa, it's two half pieces. You can't carry it bivasahas. I'm a papa or a papa answer, it is bimerudud. That's where you have a small, thin, tiny line connecting, and then it is physically it's connected. It might look like two different pieces, but you have this long thin piece connecting, and therefore it's not a not a problem. Tushmal asking another catch of my kiva rub kivos might in our mishma. If you put two chatzaizes in this case, you put them on a case, one on each side, and then you move them, you're gonna be tama to masmas. It's not niso, it's two different pieces. And says the gemara nisu, a kanami bibiruda. This case also it is. It actually is a thin strand that is attaching both. Kitanain, we actually have a machine like this. Echranikaba echana meset. Whether someone touches, whether someone moves, that's what mesid means. Isn't that the same thing? Tuma you get when moving it is tomas noise, right? It's uh metame beh, it's uh it's masa. And meset is also, it's not not the same thing. So Elabah Kamar, what must have mean? Echarunageb echara mesit below niso, whether you touch it, whether you move it below nisu, even if it's not something that's nisabavasahas, you're still gonna be tame, meaning it doesn't hold, this time it doesn't hold of that rule. What's herbalezir adding? Ribalezir is coming lame. That's only going to be tame tomasmasa if it is niso. If it's nisab of it's one piece. But if it's two different pieces, even if you move it the whole day, you're not gonna be tame tomas masa. Um my af. So what's he saying af? Af means you're like uh you're you're adding something on. Ribalaza's coming to limit it. No, you're only gonna become tame in this specific case if it's actually niso, if it's carried by a sachas. So what does it mean when he's saying af if he's limiting it and not adding? What do you mean afh? Aim of the huddiniso, you're right. They didn't mean afha nisa. It means vehuddinisa only if it is nisa, only if it's also something that is carried by as achas, that is where you're gonna have this stoma. But if not, not he's qualifying that then he's not adding over here. Zoked the Mishnah for today. Kulis Amaz. So by now we know what a coolis is. Kulis is a thigh bone, but again, for our purposes, it means any bone with marrow inside. Marrow is a dunabasar, and since marrow is a dunabasar, so busser because I'm a busser is gonna be the tameh. And therefore, you have this coolist that's kind of enclosing it. So cool is a mace. You have the coolest of a dead person. This is a human. Rashi says, Tameh, why? The etsim kise oirace metame bim maga uma'asa, because this is an etsim in the other day. And the etsim even kise oiro. Etsim the size of a se oiro by a mace. It's a special alloha by a person. Uh, a dead person is going to be metame bim maga uve masa. Specifically, we have to know that. The Mishra's only gonna say maga, but we mean maga u masa. Kidakhsi, the pasik says oibi etsim odam. It's a pasik in particular hukas. Uibe atam odam, oibi mais, oy the cover, and therefore it's metamib maga uma masa, it's etsim kisayro, at least. So kulis hames me kulis hamugdashin. Also coolis hamugdashin. A coulis that it comes from karchim. Why is karchim tame? So rashi brings, we're talking about pigler nicer pigler nicer. There is a gzerabanamid raban, and it's actually tame, it's mitame a sayyadim rashi brings. So special tumidaraban that if you have piggler nicer, it's going to be mitame. So if you have a coolist that comes from a dead person, or you have a coolis that comes from mukdashin, it's it's pigler nicer. So it's gonna be mitame. Anagabahen, someone who touches them, and rashi said very importantly before, or carries them, maga or masa, not just nagea. Anagabahen, whether someone touches them, bain stumin, bainakuvim, whether they're completely enclosed and you can't get to the marrow inside, or the nakuvim, they have holes in it, and you could. Tome, it's gonna be tame. Tame, the maga, ubi maso, by these two things. What about kulis nevela buts? What if the coolest is not a human or uh mukdosha, but rather it's coolis of an avela. It's a bone that has marrow inside from an avela. Or kulisa sharet. And again, behind stuman taharim. Someone who touches them. Stumin is going to be tahor. Why is it gonna be tar? Because again, there's no Rashi says, E not my seat me. By an avela, the at some of the bones of an avela are not gonna be tame. And if you have this whole closed up thing, now it's closed up. You can't get to the marrow, you can't touch it. There's no maga by the marrow if it's closed up, and therefore it's gonna be tarim and a kuvim, call shoe, even if it has the tiniest holes in them, then mitame. It's gonna be metame maga. How do we know even? It's gonna be tomimmasa. Tama Lamba the Basak says and a gave annoy say, which teaches me, Eshabala maga balachlamasa, loi balachla maga la balacha masa. It could only beat metame bimasa if it's mitame bimaga, and it works both ways, and therefore if it's mitam maga, balachlamasa. It's balakh masa as well. Zukti gimona. What's the diuk to be made from here? That let's start from the ratio. That as it relates to the coolest of a dead person, these this bone with marrow in it from a dead person or from mukdoshin, pigle, nicer, etc. If you touch it, Rashi told us touches mean touching or carrying. So maga o masa, it's gonna be metame. What's the diuk? There's other types of uh tomas, right? Not only a maga masa, there's what's known as oihil by a dead person. Maybe not an avail on these other things, but by the ratio where we had a kulus amais, there's also oyho by Thomas Amace. And by the way, important for our sugiya, there's different types of Tomasa oyo. There's oyo, there's three different ways oil can happen. Tumas oyo. There's when you are ma'il over tomas. So if there's a dead person on the floor and someone walks over him, someone is ma with his own body on top of him, he becomes Tame Mace. That is one way to become Tame Thomas Oyo. Another way is where the dead person comes flying over you, and it's Ma'el over you, so that's also uh that's also gonna be Metame and Thomas Ayo. And the third way is the most classic way, that's when you're under the same roof. So you're on the same roof. So that bias that you're both under, you and the mace, or the kazais from the mace, or the revias dham or any type of way, that's some kazaira, any type of way that it's gonna be metame from the tumma and uh is uh expose I don't have the word for it. That tumma comes out of a mace, any way that it that it uh comes out of the mace, you're gonna have exuded. Okay, I think uh I think we know what we're trying to say. So any other any way that tumma comes out of dispense, that's good enough. Any way that tumma is dispensed from the mace, so if you are standing under the same roof, that is the third way that it can be metama oyo. You are under the same domain, anything in that house is going to be tame, you, the calim, the hulu. So says the Gemar. Nagea inavel my aloy. What does it sound like? This cooless on mace is gonna be metame magomasa. That's what the Mishnah said. The deal c is it's not gonna be metame ba oyo. Really? Ma'aloy hechidami, what's the case? E the eka kazay's busar. If there's a kaza'is busser on this coolist, then my name. Why in the world shouldn't it be tame ba oyo? Right? You have a kazay's busar on this coolist, a big piece of flesh. Of course it should be metameh. So do like a kazaai's busser. What are you gonna tell me? There's no kazay's busser. Okay. Okay, but let's say is there a kazayas of marrow on the inside? Maya. Mayach is a bone marrow. So if you have a kazaysa Maya mibifnim, if you have a kazayas of bone marrow on the inside, then even if it's completely closed, I don't care that it's completely closed. Why? Because Toma Baikasmi'a, because I have a special Allah as it relates to Tuma's mace. That it's blah's bi o'yla. You could bury a mace however deep you want in the ground, but it's unless it's uh one of those Rabbanut uh coffins that have a tefach built in, if it's closed and there's no tefah of air space, it's blacks bi'a'la ad-arqiya, right? Anything over is gonna be uh is gonna be completely tame. So if there's a tefach of space, then it makes that the mace has its own oil and the tom is contained, then it's not gonna go up. But if there's no tefah of space with the mace, then it's gonna be bikasvah that's gonna go through and through. So if there's a kazayas of busr in it, I don't care that there's no holes. We're talking about a mace here. A mace is blackasvah straight through the bone, and therefore it should be bikasva and then it should be mitama, even be oihel. So, what are you gonna tell me? There's no kazayas of bone marrow on the inside, and that's why nothing is protruding, because there's no kazais of business to be mintamachla. So it's gonna be okay. So even if you have less than a kazayas of bone marrow on the inside, that that amount, whatever it is, less than a kazais of bone marrow that you have on the inside of the bone, i mach mefnim mal mala rucha, if it's the type of bone marrow, that's gonna be male arucha, which means it's gonna make the busar regenerate on top of the bone. So Khazar telling us that part of the bone marrow's avoida, if it's healthy bone marrow, is to regenerate the actual busar on top of the bone. So if we're talking about, that's gonna be male a rucha mibachutz that's gonna regenerate the busar on the outside. If that's the case, it's considered an aver, even if it's less than a kazayas of bone marrow. Since it has a tafkit over here to regenerate the busar, that in itself is considered an aver, and we know an aver doesn't have to be a kazayas. If it's an aver onto its own, an avar onto its own, it's gonna be metame onto its own. It doesn't have to be a kazayas. So therefore, if this maikhmi be flame even less than a kazayas is male a ruchami bachot, so it's considered an aver male aver ma'alyohi. It's a regular aver, and therefore bit oil namelitame, even if it's less than a kazais, it should be metami, but oil if it has the thin of an Aver. So what is going on over here? Why is our Mishnah telling us that this cool list is gonna be Metama Magal Masa, but not oil? It sounded like excuse me. Some of you are Zoise Maris, what does that teach me? That Maychmifnamala Rukhimbuchot. It must be this is not this is not true. The anacha you made is not true. Maych mefnim, just because you have bone marrow on the inside, it doesn't help anything to regenerate basar on the outside, and therefore what? Therefore it's not an error, it's not a neighbor, it's not metame. Why is it a metame? Because it's not a kazayas on its own. So it's not a kazais on its own, so it's not metameh. And also the maikhmifnim is not malayuchmibuchotz, so it's not a neighbor, and that's why it's not gonna be metame on its own, even if it's less than a kazais. It says so. What do we say? We're saying that the case in the Mishnah is where there's not a kazayas of basar with it. There's no kazayas of Maya, there's no kazayas of bone marrow. Okay. So Yah, if so, then Mimukdashma May Metameh. So in the same case of the Resha, where you have muktdashim, you have this kazayas, or less than a kazais, right? What do we say? We're talking about less than a kazayas. So we're talking about less than a kazayas of mukdashim, something that was piglu nicer, it's gonna be metame. What's the question? The question is if we're talking about less than a kazayas, then memukdashim amaimetame, why is it gonna be metame you by mukdashim? There's no such thing as piglur nicer on less than a kazayas. Piglur and nicer by default, to be nicer, it has to be, Rashid says, to be nicer and it has to be the Khalala Kazaiz, and therefore, if it's less than a Kazaius over here, if that's Lukemta, then how is it gonna be Metame by Mukdashim? Furthermore, Kulis Nivela, the kulas a sharet, ki niku amaimetame. If that's the case we're talking about, that it's less than a kazayas, then what about the safe in the Mishnah? The coolest of a navalo, that animal. And the coolest of a sharet, kinikwa maimetame, even if they have holes, why are they gonna be metame? What? Cause uh because uh the it could go through, it's less than a kazayas inside, so why is it gonna be metameh? It says not a kasha. This is what I'm gonna tell you. Raisha the like a kazayas, seifika kazayas. The raisha, by the way, specifically the mace part of the raisha is talking about where there's no kazayas, and the sefa is talking about where there is a kaza'is. Uh my comash malan, and we'll set everything up very nicely. What's the Kamashman over here? Meally meanly comashmalan. Let's work through the whole mission and tell you the khadush. Raisha comash mulan de my khmibhimala ruchamibuchot. In the raisha, the kamash malan is that there's no kazais. That's why it's not metame, right? Okay, but why isn't it mitameh? Because it should be considered an avar onto its own, right? Why should it be considered an aver unto its own? Because maybe the marrow inside helps the outside regenerate. That's the khidish that it doesn't. Kamash Malan demiak. So therefore it's not considered an Avar, and that's why it's not gonna be Mithame by all you kamash mala. What's the kiddish by Mukdashin by Pigulu Nicer? The kidish is that shimush nicer milsahi. That the touching the bone of nicer is considered something, because we're talking about a coolness over here. So there's a question in Karchim, is the bone milsahi? Or something that's a shimush nicer, right? It's not the nicer itself, the nicer is the meat. What about the bone? You don't have to eat the meat. If you leave over, you don't have to eat the bone, right? If you leave over the the bone, as no, it's not considered nicer, right? Like it says human menu adviker. So, but the bone itself that has meat that is nicer, is that considered shimush nicer? Is that considered something? Like it hasn't been nicer because this bone is attached to the meat. That's the childish. Shimush nicer milsehi. We're talking about a coolest. The coolest is a bone, and therefore shimush nicer milsah. That's shimush nicer. It's mishamish the nicer because it's just the bone, it's not the actual nicer than the day. It's still considered milsahi. Damar murid bar avua amar a beethuk at some is karchim shashimshu. Sheshimshu nyser metamina seyadaim. Even the bones of Khartchim that were Mishamash the Nyser, that's gonna be Metamedaya Daim, just like the Nyser. Hoyovanasa boss lodar asser, since it's considered the boss, the it became the bosses the Davar Asr, it became the bosses for the Nisar. So even the bone itself is gonna be Metamasayaim and the Toma's gonna apply. That's the kiddish as relates to the Mugadashim part. Nivela. What about the next case, which was Nivela? Afugabdi ikka kazais, nikva in Loi Nikwalay. Again, we send the sefa, which is the Nivela case, there is a kazayas. So therefore, Nivela, Afukavdiik Kzaiz, even though there is a kazais, nikvo in loin nikvalay. Only if there is nikovim, only if there are holes, then it's gonna be mutameh loy nikvaloi. If it doesn't have holes, it's not gonna become tamh, Rashi explains. The bein aftraliga, kidik tani time behadilak. As we're gonna see the the the the reason because you need to be able to touch it. Not that you have to touch it, you have to be able to touch it. And if there's holes, you're able to touch it. If not, then not. A bayam Rabbi answers differently. So I'll answer you differently. Really, I'll tell you that the bone marrow does cause the busser on the outside to regenerate. And therefore, what? It's considered a neighbor onto its own. Okay, so why isn't it considered a neighbor unto its own, right? Because it's not Metamibaya. So why isn't it considered an Aver onto its own? The answer is because that's true generally that Moyakmid of Nim helps it regenerate on the outside, but not over here. Because Nachmaiskina, what are we talking about over here, Bisheshafa? We're talking about over here where you scraped it off. You scraped off some, and since you scraped off some, now it's not gonna cause it to regenerate anymore. If it's not gonna cause it to regenerate, it's not considered an aver. If it's not considered an avar, then it needs kazayas in order to be metamible oyo, but it doesn't have a kazayas to be metamible oil, and that's why it's not metamibh oyo. Ooh, there are I think the bone on the outside. I think you scraped off the bone on the outside where it would regenerate, which makes it which makes it not regenerate. That that part I didn't get 100% clear, but I'm pretty sure. That's what it sounds like from the rise of the magale basak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ration is very mashable, anyway. And let's do some shofa. Uh Nisraba Magale Basakin that you scraped it off with a magale basakin. It's a Sule Malayarucha. It's not gonna regrow anymore in the places that you scraped it. You scraped it off. Maybe it would, but I don't know. Let's see. But again, that's the that's uh we're making, right? So that it's uh Bishashuffle, you scraped off some, that's why it's not gonna be malaarucha, and that's why it's not considered an Aver, that's why it's not gonna become Tami because of the lesson of Kazai. So the Rabala, this is working like our blazer. The um arbazer cool is to shuffle the arca, tomeya, a coolest that you scraped it to its length, it's still gonna be tame. Why? It's still considered an aver. Why? Because it's still gonna be mala arucha because scraping it to the length didn't cause too much damage. Whereas the rahpa to haira, if you scraped the lachba to the width of it, then it's gonna be tahaira because it's not gonna grow back. It's not an aver anymore because you caused enough damage. And over here, the kimp that we're making is obviously where you scraped it l'rachwa, like this case, and that's why it's gonna be tahairah because it's not a neighbor anymore. Scraping it, your simon is dikla palm tree. Because if you want to ruin a palm tree, scrape it to the width. If you scrape the whole width in one place, then it's gonna really cause this uh tree not to grow anymore and ruin the tree. Whatever, if you scrape it until its length, that's not gonna be such a problem. Says I'm Rabbichanam, Rabechnan answers differently. Noilam de iko kazayesai, the really Rabihan says theika kazayas. We're talking about where there is a kazayas and ma'ek on the inside. Okay, you're gonna ask me if there's a kazayas and mah on the inside. So why is there no Tamas Ayo? Right? It should be but Kas Vila, Vehulu. And Rabbi says, Lurafchan also we're gonna see how it plays in in a second. Then Ma'am ala'a ruchamibuchot, also even if he didn't have a kazayas. Maybe is male a ruchamibachot, and therefore it consider it it should be considered an aver, even if even if it doesn't have a kazayas. So may'a geyah dik di diktani. Okay, so what's the question? The question is so for sure it should be mitamiba'yo. You have a kazayas on the inside, and it's mala'a ruchamibachot. So it has a kazayas, that's boy kasve o'ilah, and it's considered an aver for sure it should be mitamib oyo. Why is this not metame oyo? The answer is it is. Umainagea dikani. What did we mean in the Mishnah? When we said noigeah, that if you hana geah, you're gonna meet Tameh, we mean mahil. If you're mahil, you're gonna be come tomate. Meaning this is metami tama's oil. When we say touching, we mean oil. We're gonna explain in a second why touching would mean oil. We find such a thing. So either way, Vim Maikhminfnimala Rukhimbuchutz. Okay, so Rechnur just told me that Maikhmin Fhnim is Mala Rukhimbuchutz. Then Kulis Navel Bukulas of Sharat, Kiloi nikwa Mayata. Then what about the the next case in the Mishnah? The Kulis Nabel and the Kulus of Sharat. Kiloi Nikw in the case, why where would we say it's gonna become Tameh? Where it has holes in it. Says the Gemara, according to this, even if it doesn't have holes in it, why should it be tar? And then today, if it's considered an Avar because the Mayoch on the inside helps it regenerate on the outside, and therefore it's considered an Aver, it should be Tameh anyway if it's an Aver. You touch an Aver and a Mela, you should become Tame. So says the Gemara Amargidal Amar of Yoichon and Hakumasina, what are we dealing with? We're talking a case where you have a kazais a mach on the inside, but that's miskashkesh. Literally means like rattling. It means it's dried up. It's not a festa piece of uh bone marrow, but rather it's like dried up bone marrow, and therefore, what therefore this bone marrow won't regenerate. But at the end of the day, it does it is nehshaf busar, a kazayas of busar that's gonna be bakasba oil, so it's not gonna regenerate, although Rabbichan holds that a healthy one would, right? If you have my f name, generally it's uh mala ruchamibochutz, but this is miskash kesh, therefore it's not gonna be mala ruchamibuchotz, therefore it's not considered an aver, but it is a kazayas of busar on the inside, and therefore it's gonna be bakas b'aula by a mace, and therefore it's gonna be metamiba oyo. So gabi mace, the gamar speaks that out, gabi mace toma bikasba oila as it relates to a tomas mace. So, but casuba oila anyways, so it's anyways gonna be metameba oyo, because you have a kazayas of busar on the inside. I don't care the health of that busser because it's a kazayas of busar on the inside, and there's no tevoq space on the inside, so it's gonna be bikas the oil, it's gonna go straight through, penetrate straight through, and be blackas by oil. It's gonna be metamebah oyo. That's what we meant. So the Mishnah, we said no gea, we meant the oil. It's gonna be metamaba oil. Nivela, but a nevela came in the Miskashkesh, who came in the Miskaskesh who, then Nikva in Lenikviloi. Since it's Miskaske, Mishka Miskashkesh, so it's not gonna regenerate. It's not gonna regenerate, it's not considered a Avran. That's why it's only gonna be Metama if it has holes in it. But Lenikvilo, if it doesn't have holes in it, then no. We also have this in a Mishnah. Hanagebaka Hati Zayis. So this Mishnah is in Mesaka's Krisis. And this could be a Tanya, I believe. Not sure. Either way, Mishnah says that Hanageab a kahati zaias, someone who he's in a master over here. We're talking about Thomas Mace. And he's touching half a Zayus of a maze. Umail, which is not enough to be Metame. The problem is that he's also being mile al-Chatsizayas. He's he is standing over another half a Zayas of a maze. So can those two half uh Zayas of Mesa being Mitsarif to be Metame May be metamahem for maze? So he's touching one, that's Thomas Nagia, and he's being mile al-Chatsizais mace. He's literally standing over it. Oh, Chatzi's Ice Maze, Mile. Or there's a piece of a half a Zaice Maze floating on top of him, and it's being mile on him. Either way, it's Thomas Oyoel. So what's a lacha? Tame. He's gonna be Tame. Why? These two Zayases are Mitzaref. One is Thomas Maga that he's touching, the other one is Thomas Oyo, either on top of him or he's on top of it. The point is that it's toma half a half coming from oil, half coming from Nagia, and he's gonna become Tame. What is the Rayah from here? Yeah, Midbishlam Had Schmahu. If you're gonna tell me that it really is the same thing, that it's called the same thing. And Nagia is oyo. Like we said in the Mishnah. Ah, when we said Nageya, it means oyo. If you're gonna tell me that it really is used as one word, as the same word, then I Mishamachimitzaref. Then I understand why it could be Mitsarav together, the two half Zaysim to form one kazais. Eli Yamar Treshmay, but if you're gonna tell me it's not the same thing, Nagiya is Nagia. Thomas Maga is one thing, and Thomas Oyo is another thing. Then Mimitaref, then then uh treshme. Ninu then Tresh. Yeah, Eli Yamah Trishmin, ever gonna tell me it's two different things. Then Mimitzariv is it mitzarif at all? It can't be Mitsarav to Mimitame. Because we have A over here. It's a Velatan Zaklaw Koshu Mishame Echom Mitsarav at Tommy Mishnah Sham is Tar. Yeah, that's okay, so it is a Mishnah. Zakla, koshu Mishame Echom Mitsarav, Tommy Mishnah Snah. Tar! Something that comes from the same shame, like Negia and Negio is gonna be Tom eh. Something that's not the same shame, you can't be Mitsarf. You can't be Mitsarav two half things if they're each from a different shame. And therefore, from the fact that this guy who's touching half his eyes, and he's being mild on another half his eyes. So one is Nagia, one is oyo, and he's it's gonna be mitzav to be metameh, what does that show me that it's Had Shame? And therefore, that's the Ava no Namitanina to tell the ray that over here that we do find that Thomas Oyol is considered Nageya. It comes from the same shame. So it says Gemara Alamaya. So what are you gonna tell me? Yeah, yeah, chatmu, it's really chatshmo, it's really one shame, and that's why Nageah and the Mishnah really meant oil. So you're asking me Akasha, why in the Mishnah by Thomas Mace is it not gonna be Metama oil? The answer is it is. And when the Mishnah says Nageya, it meant oil. Says Gemara, if so, then ema sefa. Let's see if that works in the seifa. Avil Hanagea, this is the seifa of that last Mishnah we just quoted. Avil and again, the kachati zais with over a ma'al love. So again, this is important for the introduction part that we said. There are different types of Thomas oil, different types of ways you can become tume. Thomas oil. Either you are ma'hil over the um the tumma, or the tumma is hovering over you, or the most classic way, those are the first two types that we just mentioned in the Mishnah. And the most classic type is that you're both under the same roof, right? So you're in a bias, you have to have Thomas Mason, you have a mason abais, and you're standing in the bias, or talent, so you become tummy because you're under the same roof. You're in the same room. So the sefa talks about that type of oil where you're under the same roof. Let's say what the Mishnah says on a gebe kachatizais, this guy is touching a chatzi's eyes, Vidobar Akher Maelalove, Ve'al Kachatizai, and another thing is being Maelalove. And on another half a piece of eyes. So there's a roof. He's on basically means he's touching half his eyes, let's say outside the roof, because then it would be that he's under the roof of a folk's eyes, but that's not the case. So he's sticking his hand out the window, let's say, uh touching uh half his eyes, and he's under the same roof as another half of his eyes. In that case, tar. In that case, it's not mitzar. That type of Thomas oil, it's not gonna be mitzav with the nigia that he's touching out the window over there. So it's a Gemara, why? Vichachimahu, if you're gonna tell me that it's really one name, it comes from the same shame, and Thomas Nagia is called oil, it's all the same thing. Then I'm my tar. Why is he tar? It comes from the same shame. It should be mitzarev, as we just saw in the ratio. That michael it is mitzarif the one kazai is to be mitam. It's another kasha ratio. So it's like, well, okay, well, what are you gonna do over here? If it comes from the ratio, that tells you by the other types of Thomas oil, where you're being mile over it, or it's being mile over you, and you're touching another half zais, so that is mitzarev. So what are you gonna do here? You have a steer from the ratio of the safety. So, other kasha ratio. So, how are you gonna answer? How are you gonna answer what's going on over here? So, rivzera explains bitumaritsha bain basalamaskinon. You want to know what we're talking about in the ratio, by the way? We're talking about where you have tumar ritsutzah tumar ratsutsa means bigasvi oilo, where it's shooting upwards. Why? Because we're talking about tumma, where it doesn't have it's not sitting in its own tefa space, it's sitting in a place that's left less than a tefa space. Bain base might. So picture Rashi builds you the picture over here. You have two massive towers and a tiny space in between. Okay, not even a tefach, and you have that tumma on the bottom. So if you have that tumma on the bottom, when you have such a small space, it's allochamah shimesinai that that the tumma is baikasva oila, but not that's not the allochama shimcina. The allochmash Mesinae is that the tumma goes up and it has the din of of uh maga. It has the din of Tamas Maga, that the Tumma's on the bottom in between these two towers, and you have this tiny space, and the tumma goes all the way up in between these two towers, and all the airspace it's considered as if the airspace is the tumma itself. And therefore, if you stay if you're mile over that, it's considered tumas maga. That's the allochmash Mesina. It's a type of oyal that's considered Tamas Maga, and that's what we're talking about in the Risha. That's just uh how Rashi paints the picture, like we just saw. Then you have uh these two mikdalim with this tiny space in between. So Kari the whum miles some, and he's all the way at the top of the towers, he's on top of these two towers, hovering over the both of them. Who is Samachl Rashan? Kari Negia. It's called Nagia. The came in Allah Mashama Sinahu, the Tumor Ratsu, Baikas, since Allah Mashama, the Tumor Ratsus is Baikas all the way. Have a comeadi male, tumma kochalal shabin sneeam. It's like someone filled up the entire empty space that's in between these two halalim with Toma, Ummeha, Lloyd, the Saiyan Rabbiha. Last place not right, Rabihna, because this is a totally different case in the Resha. This is talking about the Tumar Ratsusa Bain Based Magdalene. And the reason it's mitzarif over there in the Resha, because he's touching Aphazaix and he's being mile over this case of the two towers, which is also considered Nagia. It's as if someone literally filled up the halal in between with Tomos. So you're standing on top, your mom is touching it. And it's Nagia with Nagia, Nagia with Nagia. It's gonna be mitzarif too, with a full shear that you need in order to be mitamiyu. That was part of the case. It's the two towers in between them. You don't even have a tebach in between. The kula niggeohi. It's considered NGA. That's the ratio, Nagia and Nagiya. It's mitzarif, of course, it's Khatchmohu, and that's why, and that's why that case is different. Umantana, the kari oil ng nagea. Okay, where do you find such a thing? Who's the tana that calls oil? None of it, this is a type of oil, right? Who's the tana that calls oil ngeya? Why why would he say such a thing? Rubyyosi, it is Rubyyusi. It says Mullitarvad Rekev. Mitame, rekiv is is uh dust from a corpse. So of course, when it once it really decomposed, or if he was uh cremated, whatever the case is, so it's dust from a corpse. Dust from a corpse is uh called rekev. So mulle tarvad rekev is mitame bimaga uvi masa uva oil. Muly tarvad rekav means a spoonful of rekev. Muly tarvad a tarv is a spoon. So you have a spoonful of mace dust, of dead dust. That's mitame bim maga ubi masa uva oil. What's the question? How is it gonna be metame by all these three things? Vishma bim masa uve oil. I understand how uh this dust can be metame bim masa uva oil, hokaton and a hule. Either by masa you're carrying the whole thing. You could carry the spoonful, so you're gonna be metamib masa. Oyo, very simple, you're mile over the whole thing.

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Welcome kule. Alonagea, polinegabi kule. How could you become tum how could you have tumas maga by this dust? You're not touching every tiny particle, you're touching the thing, you're not touching the full shear of the Molly Tarvid Rekiv, every tiny tiny particle of the dust. Again, if you're holding it, it's Tomas Maga. You're holding masa, you're holding the whole thing. If you're mile, then you're being mile on the whole thing. If maga, you're not touching the entire thing. Each particle is onto its own, and therefore, how do you have Tumas Maga by this Mollitarvad Rekev? Says the Gemara. And the lapshami know what do we see? It must mean my Noigea mile. What does Nigea mean over there? It means mile, it means when you're mile. So the Gemara, okay, but does that work? Valkatani, what do we see in the Breissa? Noigea, Valkatani mile. We send Nagea and we send mile, right? We said this Molitarvid Rekev is gonna be metabe maga bemasa uva oil. So according to what you just said, yeah, you're right. Maga doesn't make any sense, so maga means oil. So what are we basically saying? It's metame b oil, bimasa, uva oil. So we said oil twice. What are we saying exactly? We already said oil. So you're telling me that that magaz means oil also? We already said oil. Balkatani nageani mao. So this is Rama Baya by explains Lematami Tefah oil nigea. Lemalami tefah oil greida. If we're talking about lematami tefach within the tefach of this tarvat of this maze, that's considered oil nigia. That's where we call it oil, but it really that's where we call it niggir, but it really means oil. That's talking about within the tefach. Mabish within the tefakh, you're almost touching it, so we call it nigeah. Lemalamitef, if it's not over a tefach, that's oil greater. That's regular oil that we call it, and therefore it's really two different things, but it's really means oil, and it's not actually nigeah. Rava Amar, he answers differently. A feel the Nalami Tefach, Nami Oil Gri Nami Oil Nagiahu. Even over a tefah, not within a tefach of this thing, we're still gonna call it uh nigiah. We're still gonna call the oihil nageah, even though it's really oyo. What's the case? Where are we not gonna call it nigiya? But we're gonna call it oyhil grader, just oyha, like we saw in the Bryce, Metam of Magamasa. And oyah? Where are we just gonna call it oyo? That is Bahamshacha. Hamshoch is otherwise known as the classic type of oyo, where you have one roof over a bunch of things. So that is where Bahamshoch, it's Mamshik everything together in the room, right? The two Zasim and then all the Kailim and the people inside, and therefore that is where we call a regular tomasa. But as it relates to the other type of tomasayo being mahil over a mace, or the mace being mahil over you, that is called nigiya, according to Rava, even if it's further up than one tefah. And I'm a Rava, Mina Minala. Rava says, how do I know this? How do I know what? How do I know that according to Rabyisi, even if you're mile above a tefah, it's further removed from a tefah, but then you're a mile over the mace, or the mace is mile over you, that it's still called Nagiya. How do I know that it's not I have a Mishnah? Or over here it's actually the Tanya, which transprings. If you have Khavila Mita, which are the ropes from a bed, so they used to have their ropes also, their beds all strapped up, as we know. So you have you have these ropes from a bed, or Sri Galaines, or you have uh Sri Game, you have the your uh your uh I think we call them Sri Game. Is it what do you call them again? Those things, the the bars on the windows. You have those uh you have those bars on the windows, so you have these ropes and these bars, and you put them as a separator between the first floor and the second floor. We know Tuma is uh like as if there's no separator, but if it's on its own roof, if it's on its own domain, it has a tabak space, it's own oyo. And the second floor, so the aliyah, if there's no holes, it's not gonna become tame. So if you have the hole in between the bais and aliyah, the second floor, and it's closed off by these ropes and bars and whatever. Well? Rods and bars, yeah. I was looking for the Hebrew word. It's called uh Srigim, I think Srigim. Either way, you have these uh these ropes and bars closing off the second floor. So it is hoitz, it's gonna be chosen, bayna bais la lila sh the shlala hachnis toma la teni. So tuma is not gonna put uh protrude into the second part, it's going to be chisis. What about piercing alpineamase? What if you pierce and alpinea mace bavir? So you took these ropes and bars and whatever it is, and you put them on top of a mace. You put them in the sky over a mace. Hanager caneged anekev, tome. Someone who touches caneged a hole, so again, these are ropes and bars, so naturally they're gonna have a little, they're gonna have some holes in them, right? So someone who touches on top of it, so you have the mace, on top of it, you have these uh in the sky, like hanging in the in the sky, you have these ropes and bars, whatever it is. If you touch caneged a place where there's a hole on these ropes, on these mesh, then you're gonna be tame. Shiloy caneged. If you did not touch and if you touched it somewhere where it wasn't a hole, so the tumultu wasn't like as well that through that, but it was somewhere on the ropes where there wasn't a hole, then you're gonna be tummers. So it's a gmail heikanomi. What is the case? Let's set it up. If you're telling me that it's lamatami tefah, that these ropes that you put as a barrier on top of the mace is literally within a tefach. It's within a tevach of a mace. It's lamatomi tevach, and you touched it shalay can neg uh shalay can egged anekh. And you touched it somewhere on top, not where there was a hole, okay, but it's still within a tefah. A my tar, why are you gonna be tar? If this these ropes and mesh and whatever it is is literally within a tefach of the mace, it should be considered the mace's clothing. Mace spikuse huh. It's the mace literally in his clothing, and you touch the mace, you touch the mace's clothing, your tar, your tume 100%, even if there's no holes, right? And therefore it should be considered the same thing. Uh mace piksus mitame, makesus mitame even if there's no holes. So Elav, what must it be? Obviously, it's above a tefah, that you have these ropes and barrier, whatever it is. Above a tevach, there's a tefah between that and the mace, and therefore, the kakar and the nagiya. What do we see? We're calling it naga, that you're nageah, that that's that's uh it's still called Nagiya, and that's how Rubba knows that according to the B'Ysef, again, even if you're mile above a tefach, it's still called Nagiya. It's not only if it's within a tefah. Really, no. I'll tell you that Nagiya oihil is only called Nagiya where it's within a tefah. Okay. Uh the Kamrit, and that that you just asked me a question, Mace Bixusay who mace biksusa, that that you just asked me, uh, that if it's within a tevach, it should be considered mace biksusa, and therefore you should be tame across the board, even if you even if there was no holes, just like if you touch his clothing, once you know it's different because mace biksusa mevatle. He's mevatil is clothing, his clothing are butter to him. But hi, this is not clothing in the end of the day, and therefore, it's not gonna be mevato. But the gamara asked the obvious question. If there's no tevat in between, so there's no island between. If there's no island in between, I don't care what this is. Clothing, not clothing, it could be rocks for all I care. Toma is bikas bi oila, toma uh uh penetrates upwards if there's no oil in between. So it should still be tomas. Answer the gemara, kiss suburb Yisi. Bomb answer over here. Toma tmuna inabacas. This is sheetas from Yisi that Tunaban Tmuna is not bikasva oila. Tuma so name is you, it's not gonna be bakaspaila, it's not gonna go through. Even if it doesn't have a tevach, it's not gonna be bakas. Where do we find such a sheet of tonan? We have a Mishnah. Teva Sam Migdal Shayeshpa Peshah Tevach. So just gonna try to get through this last part fast. We'll probably go two, three minutes over and I'm not gonna ask you tonight. Slackly, it's gonna be easier tomorrow. Says the Mishnah, it's not, because we find it over here. Teva Samigdal Syyehpa Paseh Tevach. So you have this box, you have like this closet, and in the closet, there's a bunch of different compartments. So you have this in one of the compartments, Sheyeshpa Paseh Khak, you have a Tevachov room. They inbits of the Paseh Tafak. But the entranceway to this compartment within this closet, there's no the entranceway is not a Paseh Tefach. It's a much smaller entranceway. Toma Basecha Bayas Tome. If you have Tumma in this, if in this uh Tumma Basecha Bayas tama, if you have tumma in this, uh in one of these compartments, then the bias is going to be tome. Midra. She says, Toma bibias, if you have tumma on the bias, you have tumma in the bias, is the tumma in the bias gonna go into this compartment that's within this uh thing. So masha basik tar, whatever's inside this compartment in the closet is gonna be tar. Why mimic tumal lots dark tumalikanis? Because this tumma, if this compartment is open to the bias, and that opening, as we know, it has a tabak onto its own, but the opening is less than the tewah. The answer is because the reason is because this tumma that's inside is eventually gonna come out. Where it's gonna come out, where is it gonna come out to? It's gonna come out to the bias. And Rashi says we're making xero since it's gonna come out to the bias eventually. We look at it as a re as if it already came out, and therefore, if there's a tumma in the box, the whole house is tama. Because it's as if it came out through the hole into the bias. But if there's tumma in the house, then it's not gonna go into the there's no reason that the tumma in the house should go into the box, and therefore the box has a tefach of space one within its own. It's not a tefah of opening, and therefore the b the box is gonna be uh ta'. Because dark tumma lati is main darach tumma, leak on us for biasimatar. Byasi' matar, why memeshi yochlu it's a lachzan? Because it says it's not for sure that this tumma is gonna come out in full glory into the house. You could you could stick your hand into or stick a knife into the box and chop it up, and therefore you could put it pull out lachatzon, you could pull out a half a zayas at a time, and therefore you're not gonna have the proper shear, and it and it could come out, and therefore you have a case where the tumma leaves the box and the house doesn't become tame, and therefore it's not mucha. You can't tell me, it's for sure gonna become tame one day. Or you'll start from him kayima, or you could put a match inside and burn it up inside the box, and therefore you don't have a reason to make exeruven in the rabban, and that this tumma is gonna come out. Not necessarily you could burn it up inside, you could take it out of a chat, and therefore he's metar. Because then he's sefa. And we saw in the sefa that what if you flip the closet around? You put this opening to the box in the pesach of the house. So piska l'hoss. The pesach was outside the house, then tumma biseka bay is tomorrow. Then if you have tumma inside the box, then the house is gonna be tar. Toma babai is mashabaseka tar. If you have tumma in the house, then also whatever's in the box is gonna be tar. Vitani Allah, and we learnt about that. Rabyosi mittar. Rabyysi is mitar. This Ruby si mitar is going what? On the ratio of the sefa? Ela ma sebe, we're gonna tell me it's going on the seva, tanakami namitur matar. The last thing we just ended off with were the boxes facing outwards, even the tanakama is mitar. So what do you mean? Vitanya Allah or Rabysi Mitar? Tanakama is also mitar. So Allah, so must be going on the ratio, right? That gummer tanakama tumma basikh, where the tanakama said that if the tumma is inside a bais, tama the bais is gonna be tame. So what's the reason for the tanakama saying that? It's for two reasons, really. Either because of this rabbana, we said because the tumma is eventually gonna come out through the opening into the house, and that's gonna be mutama the house. So we look at it as if it already did me the rabban. And imishum, another reason isum the tumma tumuna baikas. Because tumun tuna tumma that's tumuna is bikas. Are you gonna tell me there's a tevach space, so it's its own thing, and it's not blaikas if it has a tevach. The reason is because we're saying the Tanakama would say, even if it doesn't have a tefach, if it does have a tefach inside, so we're gonna tell you that it's gonna be Tamay Maman of Shaq because it's eventually gonna come out. And even if it doesn't have a tevach inside, I'll still tell you toma bikas be oyle. Tuma is gonna be bakaz be oil coming out anyways, and therefore it's blacks straight into the house. Bakamalaisin Rabyisi on that is answering back. Dika Amrit Tumala Derh Tomalatsis that that you're telling me to make exander because the tumma is gonna come out one day. Yochlul Khat's sirfam Kaimo. You have a way out of that. You could chop it up, take it out in pieces, or you could burn it in its place. Oh, the camera tomatas, and that that you said, tomat bakas, tomat muda, in a bikas. This is the sheet of Rubyisi, that tomat muda in the bacas, even if you don't have a temple space by yourself, it's still in a bikas.

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The oil, according to the Bioisi, get shamans.