We Watch TV Episode 130 – Cabin Fever

 In this episode of We Watch TV, Hope and Daniel discuss their winter woes. The cold really does bother us anyway. That being said, winter does allow for a lot of tv to be consumed. The hosts chat the first four long awaited episodes of Netflix’s Bridgerton season 4. Hope and Daniel also react to the season three premiere of Apple TV’s Shrinking as well as discuss the latest episodes of The Pitt, Fallout, and Tell Me Lies. Hope and Daniel managed to get to the theater to see The Housemaid before the winter storm hit. They give their thoughts on the thriller while they remember that it is a PRIVILEGE to host a podcast.

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:09:32) The Housemaid 
(00:32:29) The Pitt season 2
(00:44:07) Bridgerton season 4, part 1
(01:01:30) Fallout season 2, episode 7
(01:04:55) Shrinking season 3
(01:07:19) Tell Me Lies season 3, episode 4-5

Music by yourtunes from Pixabay

Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/wewatchtvpodcast

Transcript

Intro

SPEAKER_01 0:01

I for completely just blanked on how to open this podcast. No, I I was about ready. I hit play, I record, I was about ready to do my thing, and then I realized I don't know how to do the thing. Um, I think on on hey everybody and welcome to We Watch TV. It is the podcast about the TV that we watch. I am Daniel, she is hope. This is episode 130, and finally.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Wait, were you recording a second ago? That really, okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

I was not a bit. I did forget, but it but I just went with it. Um finally, we made it out of January.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Six months later.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

We've made it out of January. The snow that and the ice that we picked up in January has not left us, however.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

In the cold. In the cold.

SPEAKER_04 0:57

Bitter, awful cold.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

I have since you last spoke to uh everyone. Just wanted to give everybody an update. Since we last spoke, I have become an HVAC technician. If you need any help with your heating and cooling systems at your homes, I am perfectly capable of taking care of the situation because our heat pump turned into a block of ice. It was working overtime. And I fixed it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

It's been like in the single digits, feels like in the negatives. So, you know what the fix was though? So on a Friday evening when I'm ready to enjoy the weekend, it's sweat, like what was the temperature outside? Maybe like eight degrees, feels like lows, negatives, or something with the wind chill. We had to sit here in the living room with the air conditioner running like freaks. Because for some reason, the science is if you run the air conditioner, that gets all like because it's like an opposite thing or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

So that was fun. That's freeze to death.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

I don't think that's what fixed it. That might have been, but I'm pretty sure because we did that twice, and the first time it didn't do anything because it was iced up.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Next time I want to put the thing would freeze up on the equator. That's not what the fans want. Next time when I want to put the AC on on a winter's day because I just need a like some a blast of cold air, you're gonna have to let me do it since I had to sit there with the floor. That seems like a fair trade.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

That seems like a fair trade. Um, I think what actually fixed it was when I got into the electrical box and shorted a couple wires out the way the internet told me to. True, true, true. Um, but it is unfrozen at this moment, and the guy is coming to check it out in the future. Marvin just sighed at you. Marvin doesn't like it when we knock on wood.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

He just he just looked deviling.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

He would prefer he would prefer the ghosts hear what we're saying and then get get us.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

Um but yeah, our our our yard is like an ice skating rink.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah, and not snow. Like it was at one point snow. We definitely got more ice than snow, even though we had a lot of snow or ice. Not just that, but but the last couple three, four days, even though it's only gotten like a high of twenty, it's been sunny. And so that's melted the top layer of snow that was there, but then it gets zero at night and it all just freezes back over to the point where now Marvin and I, when we go out, when he needs to use the bathroom, we're just skating at this point.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

You've already fallen. I did fall, yeah. There was one morning, and after Daniel like chastises me if I'm gonna go outside to be careful, so I'm still laying in bed because this is pretty early morning before work, and I hear like a thud, like a very loud noise. And I was like, what was that?

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Then I was like, Mind everybody, she did not get up to check on anything. She laid down and just let that thud be.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

Okay, well, we have had big chunks of ice falling off of our roof that also make loud noises. And I was like, whatever, whatever. Everything's probably okay. And then I hear, hey, I need your help.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

So I walk into the uh the kitchen where they enter, and Marvin's looking at us like, food now, breakfast now. Like when you fell, he just stood over you, like, my unbothered Kane.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

So I think I fed him and then I looked at you. Now you have a nice little Harry Potter scar on your forehead. You fell he fell face first, guys. I don't know how you didn't break anything.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Uh it was a controlled fall. I knew it was happening, and I had time to like get my weight to go forward so I could try and catch myself. I cut my hand up pretty well. I'm glad you didn't have your glasses on. That would have been. I think I would have lost them and I might have broken them.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

And the glass could have cut you in the eye.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

Um but I was able to catch myself on with my knees.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

I'm glad your teeth are in the body.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

My 41-year-old knees and hands took the brunt of it, which the knees were fine, despite the fact that what did your mom ask? I was telling my mom By the way, it was zero degrees outside when all this took place, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

I was telling my mom about the morning. I was like, Yeah, Daniel fell this morning. She's like, Oh, did he like rip up his pants?

SPEAKER_04 5:05

I said, He had shorts on. She's like, Oh.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Because most people would have had pants on, and with the way you fell, like I have fallen before when I have like biggest on and I've like torn my pants.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Like I understood her question. Like if I fell on my knees um like that, like I would have could have potentially ripped her pants, but I wasn't wearing any.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

He had shorts on. It was it's it's fine. But Marvin did get his breakfast. Yeah, I'm I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

The cuts on my hand are mostly healed up at this point. So um I'm gonna catch it in the butt one of these days, fallen. This is not the first time I've fallen on the ice.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

I don't know what we would have done that day, though, because we like our road blended in with our yard. Yeah, yeah. Like no one was getting out. Like we were stuck, like literally, like snowed in, iced in, whatever you want to call it, stuck for at least four to five days.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

It would have been like one of those old timey peasant like paintings with the peasants. You would have just had me in the bed until they could come get me.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

I don't think I would if you had broken something, I wouldn't have been able to like get like the EMS would have had to like I don't know, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

You're not moving me anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

You might have just been cooked. I don't know. It was it was crazy. We laugh now, but it was a very jarring morning.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

It was not a great way to wake up. I wasn't fully awake. It's my fault. I knew the ice was gonna be in that spot specifically. The dog, of course, I'm looking at him now, laying like you know unbothered on the couch, but the dog took me exactly to where the spot was the ice spot was and ran me through it, and I should have known it was gonna happen. But don't worry, this the the nice pile of ice knives caught me.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

He doesn't like this either. He likes fresh snow that he can bury his face in. Yeah, this this is not I would have rather gotten like more snow than this ice because thankfully things were okay, and you guys know our track record around here with like outages and stuff. When we started getting more of the ice, it started having me concerned. Give me more snow any day over ice, you know?

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Yeah, yeah. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

Knock on wood again. I don't want to hex the whole situation.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Yeah, the only thing I'll say about this one is this has been one of the longest like sticking around on the ground, like just because of how like as soon as the storm ended with a cold blast came in, our highs just in since the storm last weekend um have been no more than 20 and lows in the zeros.

SPEAKER_03 7:36

I think it might finally get to 30 degrees some point this week. It's gonna feel like a heat wave though in the 30s. But yeah, we were like literally like trapped in our home. Like there was no I don't think we went anywhere until Thursday, you were able to get out to get us some Taco Bell, because when you've been locked in your house, snowed in, you need you need the Taco Bell bell.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Yeah, I went out Thursday because I went out at lunch. I th well I went out like Wednesday evening to the gas station, but also to like drive to test the hill.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

We're also on a hill. Yeah. So if you can get out sometimes, that doesn't mean you can get back up. Yeah. It's it's pretty crazy though. And yeah, like last year we had a lot of snow, but and there we we had some blasts of cold days, but this is the longest I can remember around here of just consecutively cold, awful days. Just bone-chillingly cold, like one day after another. I'm sure like our power company is give us a round of baby Billy here.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

There will come a payday. Hallelujah. What a payday. Yeah, they're making bankrance. They're loving it. They're loving it. We're fortunate we didn't lose power. So again, I would rather pay that high bill than deal with what other people near us have been dealing with with power.

SPEAKER_03 8:57

We were very concerned. We bought lots of snowstorm snacks.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

We're almost through them.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

I know. Definitely needs to go to snow.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Just in time for it to snow again on Tuesday. What? Day of this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

But we have there's been a there's been a fortunate side to um all this snow and ice, and that's we have just watched a absolute crap ton of television.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

But before we get to the TV, I guess we should start.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

So And it's January's finally over. I think we already mentioned January finally over.

The Housemaid

SPEAKER_01 9:27

We're happy about that. Perfect for February. Um we did right before we snuck in a movie before the snowstorm. Yes. Like we slid out to the movie theater Friday night right before the snowstorm. Before the impending doom. And so we got out to do that. Uh we watched The Housemaid. Yes. Not the Housemaid's Tale. The Handmaid's Tale, which is another show. Which is what was in your original notes.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Listen, I'm cold, I'm tired, I everything.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

2026. Are we are we all thriving in 2026?

SPEAKER_05 10:02

No.

SPEAKER_03 10:03

So yeah, I was like, but that's funny because I'm like, that's what it's called. I'm like, oh no. Another book series, another show. We watched The Housemaid. And it seemed like other people had our same idea. Like everyone was out like having like a last evening before we all knew we'd be trapped in our homes.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Yeah, it was busier than you would, especially because this movie's been out for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 10:22

Yeah, this movie came out I think like December 19th, like right before Christmas. And I I was I think it actually comes out on digital, like this week, that for like that you can buy like the digital downloads. And I I had wanted to see it, and I had finished reading the book, so I knew I wanted to go. And then I also, you know what? I wanted movie theater popcorn. Duh. Like it's just one of my favorite things. And I knew that we were gonna be like trapped. And like my cabin fever extends even more than yours, just because if you guys notice, my voice is still not great. Like being sick for over a month, I really haven't gone to many places.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

I mean, it's not like when when when you talk about cabin cabin fever, it's not like I go anywhere except the store occasionally.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Yeah, see the thing is you know that, and I saw this in uh thing on TikTok, like with everybody kind of because so many parts of the country are dealing with a snowstorm and the ice and everything, and it's like you know it's bad when introverts start getting a little like, okay, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go somewhere. But I knew that I was like, we gotta do something fun before we're gonna be trapped in here. So we saw The Housemaid, it stars Sidney Sweeney, she plays the main character of Millie, Amanda Seafried, who plays the character of Nina, and then Brandon Sklenner. I can't pronounce his last name, he's just super hot, and he plays Andrew Winchester, and it's based on a book series, The Housemaid. The book is really, as usual, the book is better. Um you have not read the books, but you kind of I just when I finish a book and there's no again, there's no one around me to talk to about, I'm gonna like say my thoughts out loud. So you kind of had some of the twists spoiled for you a little bit just because I'd be like, oh my gosh, when I'd read the book.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yeah, you talk to me in hostage for like 30 minutes about it after you finish.

SPEAKER_03 12:14

I need to talk to you in hostage for 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Yes, you do. You you you find me in a situation where I'm on the couch, and then you just sit down and start talking, and I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Do you have any idea how much Star Trek I have to listen to?

SPEAKER_01 12:26

You like Star Trek. Before we get into this movie, I just want to say, because you brought up that it was a book series, and so I just want to make sure that it's very clear that I made a joke at the end of the movie that you misinterpreted somehow and thought it was like a serious thing. But but anyways, okay. So this whole movie takes place, and we'll talk about it here in a minute. Remember, hey, this is actually, you know what, this is a great time to remind everybody. This is a spoiler podcast, and we're gonna talk about spoilers, about all the things that we talk about. And if you don't want to know anything about this movie or you're or be spoiled by it, skip on to the next section. There's chapter markers, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Millie, the main character played by Sydney Sweeney. Played by Sydney Sweeney, um has turns out has killed a person in the past. Now, I don't you know, you can debate. I don't I haven't read the book. You know, the movie kind of made it seem like she was doing it to defend her friend, but then maybe got a little bit carried away about with it, etc. etc. Well she's good for her. So she ends up serving time in prison, and then she ends up offing the gosh, you're just giving away the whole movie. I said that just gave the spoiler. But I thought we were gonna talk about it. Yeah, we are, but I'm trying to I want to start at the beginning first, because that's the most important part here because I'm you were actually starting at the end. But end. I said that I meant the end.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

You said the beginning. I can't speak. And when I'm back in Shunka. And so she kills that the name of that song.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Yes, so she kills the evil husband, and then so they find a way to legally finagle it. So wait, that is the name of that song, right? She doesn't end the beginning. Okay, so she doesn't get in jail for it, and then she ends up trying to get a job at another as a housemaid for another person.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Why are you telling this part first?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

And the lady goes into like how her husband is terrible, and so the indication you're left with is that she's gonna off this lady.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

It's like a vigilante.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

And so then the movie, so she showed they do this, and then the movie goes to black, and then I turn over to Hope and I go, What's her name? Millie. Millie will return in Avengers Doom Day, Doomsday.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

You didn't say in Avengers Doomsday. Yes, I did. Oh, I thought you just said Millie will return.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Right over your head at what you what I was trying to the joke I was trying to make. And you were like, Yeah, you know there's a sequel to this, and I was like, that's the joke I'm trying to make. I didn't realize you said, listen, since you're gonna start at the end, that's that was funny to an audience of two people because I just rambled so much.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

That whole end scene when like they and they dropped the credits. I was already excited because they did the they did the Taylor Swift song. I did something bad. So I was like super one. That was a great transition to credits. Great. Me and I was telling me there was another Swifty in the audience because we were both like, whoa! Did you not agree? That was just like at the end when she's like, the lady's talking to Millie, and she's like, Yeah. And then boom, roll credits, Taylor Swift. I did something bad iconic, legendary. I didn't hear you say in Avengers Doomsday. I thought you just said Millie will return. I was like, I was like, did they really write that on the screen? I was like, there is another book, and they by the way, she will return because they have confirmed that they are going to become the secret of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

It was a bad joke! In the last couple Marvel movies, like in the last um Guardians of the Galaxy movie, they were like, Star Lord will return. Listen. And then in the Avengers Doomsdays movies, they've been going like Steve Rogers will return in Avengers Doomsday. So I was like, Millie will return in Avengers Doomsday, because that's how they played it off.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

I didn't even hear you say Doomsday. Don't interrupt me when Taylor Swift is singing.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Oh, apologies, apologies.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Okay, so flipping it around back to the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Flip it around.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

Wait, do it, do it, do it, you're not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_04 16:21

Madame Morble, NFM, flip it around, wicked wish. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

I need everything.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Why are you doing this? I don't even know what I'm talking about now.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Millie has been in prison. She finished a bunch of information to get a job as a housemaid for a lady. Amanda Siegfried.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Okay. It is based on a book series, House Maid. There are three books in the series.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Really, they didn't figure that out?

SPEAKER_03 16:49

I'm not gonna talk. Oh my gosh. Which one of us read the books? Me or you?

SPEAKER_01 16:54

I feel like I did.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Anyway. Yes, it starts off. She needs employment. She is currently living in her car. She was in prison, yes. And but she did get out early. I think she has like a parole officer she has to check in with. It's she got fired from her previous job, so she really needs work. But you know, when you've been in prison, not a lot of people are gonna hire you. So she goes to interview for a job as a maid at the Winchester's home, which seems to be kind of are they do you are we thinking like Lone Island, maybe like slightly outside of New York?

SPEAKER_01 17:30

No, no, no, it's like outside of New York City, but somewhere in that area.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

So it's a very fancy house, and Nina Winchester, played by Amanda Seafried, is the wife. You think that it's like this perfect, beautiful, manicured house. Everything looks nice. She's has her beautiful blonde hair curled, dressed in white, dressed immaculately, and she interviews Millie, and like Millie thinks the interview went well. Millie intentionally tried to make herself look bad for the interview, like less pretty. Like she wore glasses that weren't even real, which she does that in the book, and kind of like tried to dress down a little bit. Um, so she, I don't know, she wanted to make herself look smarter, like I don't know, for the role. So, but she comes out of that thinking, yeah, like I'm never gonna get this job, right? And then she does get called later by Nina Winters, she was like, Hey, we want to offer you this job, and she's like, Oh, oh, okay. And she's like, No, I I it is a live-in position. And Millie's like, Great, because you know, she doesn't have a place to live.

SPEAKER_05 18:32

Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

So she's like, Nina's like, when can you start? And Millie's like, I can start today, because she needed, I think she had fallen asleep in her car.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

And like the cops had come over. So she starts, she goes, things seem okay at first. Andrew, the husband who built the house, he comes home and he's like, Who is this? And Nina's like, duh, it's Millie, it's the housemaid I hired. And first, some like vibes are immediately off, and she's like, Millie, where are your glasses? And like she kind of asks her those questions. And then they show also where Millie's going to be living, which is up in this very teeny tiny attic with a door, instant red flag. The door locks from the outside, not from the inside, and you can't even push the window open. Like the whole house is super nice except for this attic. But can I just say the attic did not look that bad in the movie compared to how it's described in the book? I pictured like squalor and awfulness. I'm like, they made it look very nice, in my opinion, for the movie.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Um your opinions on the a lot of this stuff that goes down in this later is not to be told. Oh, please.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

The attic looked nicer than what it was described in the book.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Anyway, Millie has begun this job, and as she's and oh, there's um Nina, they also have a daughter, Cece, who, by the way, that little girl, did you think she was Braddy in the movie?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Um, uh not particularly. I mean, I I feel like it's not unusual for a kid to be cautious around some random new play. She was a hell spawn in the book.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

So they definitely changed that a little bit, which I think is for the better. So the audience could have a little bit more sympathy with you know what was going on. But things with Nina Nina starts to like lose her marbles basically and go kind of crazy. And let's just say Amanda Seafried is really good at playing crazy. What do you think? Yes, very and Andrew, the husband, seems just like the perfect man. He was in the book, he seemed the same way. You're like, wow, why is he married to this nutcase? And like at some point you're even like rooting for because definitely he and Millie have like an attraction because she's been in prison. She went to prison when she was, you know, out of boarding school and high school. So she and they explain this a little bit more in the book. So she had like, you know, experience with men, but not a lot, and it's been quite some time, and he's described as being very attractive, and they got a very attractive actor. I do it is I'm right here. Okay, I still love Candler. It is concerning to me that this man played Atlas, the nice guy, in the It Ends With Us movie, which we won't get into the behind the stage scenes drama that, but I was like, Yeah, he's alright in that movie, and then this movie I'm like, oh hello, I'd be touching up my room.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

So, anyways, long story short, he's the bad guy.

SPEAKER_04 21:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

And he's done groom he's essentially groomed women. He did it to Amanda Siegfried, and her uh uh idea to try and get out of the situation was to bring in Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

And it's he does have a fiance before Nina that we've got to do.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Amanda Siegfried knew exactly who and what Millie's background was when she brought her in. So she targeted her to a certain extent. Now, that does make her come off really bad, but at the end she does kind of redeem herself by not allowing her to stay in.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

So just as the book does, the book you get Millie's perspective, and then you get Nina's perspective. So definitely they're building it up. And they did this both the book and the movie that like Nina is crazy. She's unhinged. Millie starts learning that she has mental issues, all of this stuff. Meanwhile, Andrew looks perfect. At some point, he like they Andrew and Millie can't, you know, keep the their hands to themselves and they do hook up. And a very steamy, um, which not that steamy, honestly. I've heard it was ex- I think it was I would still call it steamy, I guess, but maybe I'm just like too into the smut. I don't know. Because it was very, in my opinion, in the book and what we saw on screen, the infamous hotel scene with Sydney Sweeney.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Um y'all had built that up and I've seen where it's like Game of Thrones is more grabbing the back. No, this is not my type of movie, so I was hoping that there would be some reason for me to win. Oh my gosh. But this was like, yeah, like you said, this was some tame stuff. Like I've seen way more explicit stuff on TV here sitting on my couch next to you than in that theater.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

I mean, it was a very hot scene. Like they both look snatched, great bodies, great chemistry.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

But you can tell Sydney just came off filming that boxing movie where she was in shape to be a boxer.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

So but like, I mean, like game like Game of Thrones for one, I can think of like way like more it and I know when I read the book and I got to the hotel scene, I was like, so I flipped the page, I was like, that was it. And then I heard that we were gonna get like steamy.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

The porn on your computer.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Be quiet. Don't give me a euphoria quote. Um so then we went, I kept hearing about like how steamy it was in the movie, and people were like, Don't bring your husbands or your boyfriends. I'm like, oh please. I will say though that I noticed that after that scene, because it was just it was everybody in that theater was a part of a couple. So that was like our theater was, I wouldn't say. So it was like different couples, and after that scene, all the men got up to go to the room. I'm like, and no one knew each other. You for Daniel waited a little bit because I was like, wait, they're gonna shift to Nina's perspective.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

I knew I couldn't get up immediately after the nude scene to go to the bathroom as if that was the thing I was waiting on the whole time as advertised.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

My gosh. I do like how they played Cinnamon Girl though for the scene with Andrew. That I love that song by Elena Delray. Anyway, anyway, um, yeah. That was a really hot scene. So they like hook up, Nina finds out about it, because obviously the whole time, and I remember when I read the books, she had given Millie this phone because Millie didn't have a good phone. I'm like, oh, you never like use the phone that your employer gives you to do stuff because there's clearly like she's gonna be tracking her, right? Like, but poor little Millie and her innocent prison murderous brain, I don't know, just didn't clock that. So they have this big explosive argument, and Millie thinks, like, hey, now me and Andrew are gonna be together. I have this great house, everything's great. Nina goes away, and you're like, Oh, we still have like an hour left of the movie. And in the book, you're like, we still have half the book left. So, like, he and Millie, like, what is the oh, the thing with the plate. They changed this storyline entirely. The book, Millie had messed up some of his books. They did it for dishes in the movie, and I think that the special dishes that his mom gave made for made for better on screen, visual, yeah, visual than the books, and like she had accidentally broke one of the plates, and they go up and she's like, Oh, really? In my room in the attic, you want to do things up here? Boom, he locks her in, and then we shift, just like the book. You get Nina's perspective. I need to know, you kind of knew from me, right? Or did I fully tell you? Did you know that Nina wasn't actually crazy?

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Yeah, I mean, part of it was because you told me.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

A little bit from probably what I had said, but would you have figured it out if you didn't know?

SPEAKER_01 25:44

There were enough red flags from the guy character. Um like Really, I was like this the whole time with him. The moment he's like, Let's go to that show. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Just being a nice man. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Come on.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

She said she could take friends at first if she wanted, and she's like, I have no friends.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Let's play a little game.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

Hey, he got two you know what? Oh, this I don't know what this says about me. They had he got the two hotel rooms, uh-huh, and then they pretended to each go to the different rooms, and it wasn't until she got all the texts from Nina, I wouldn't have even gone with a facade of the two rooms. I was like, let's get just kidding, just kidding. No, I wouldn't have. I'm nice to be.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

So let's play a little game called We Get Uh a Housemaid. And you go on one of your vacations. I wouldn't hire a housemaid that looks like City without me, and then uh we were, and then we go me and the housemaid go to a movie without you while you're gone. Is that not a red flag? Okay. The the silence coming from your side of this microphone tells me everything I need to know. So, anyways.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

You think you seem crazy? You you think you know what a bad day is?

SPEAKER_01 26:54

So, anyways, um it all goes downhill from there. We find out that um what's her name?

SPEAKER_03 27:03

Nina.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Nina. We get her whole perspective, and she's been manipulated by him and taken advantage of, and he's a real crazy person.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Yeah, he locks her in the attic, Nina, and that's another reason why she hired Millie to not only get out of the situation, but he couldn't put her up in the attic anymore. He makes her think she's insane. And then the book c kind of goes into that a little bit more because there's a well, they didn't explain this so much in the movie, but there's one part in the book which is really sad where Nina started to think that she actually did like drown her daughter. See tried to drown her kid, and she actually was crazy. Like he gasled her so much, she started to question stuff until he would lock her up in the attic again. She didn't get her roots done. I I would have made sure though, I would have got I would get my like right now. I have like four like an inch of root overgrowth because I had to move my hair appointment from where I had COVID. And I'm like, look at I'm like in the theater watching the movie, and I'm like, you know, you know what? I would have gotten my roots done.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

It's a privilege. It is a privilege.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

It is a privilege. It's a Daniel, it is a privilege to see movies like this with me. Just so you know. But we get the whole backstory, we find out, and yeah, like you were right, like it in the book kind of explains about it a little bit more. Like, it wasn't great the way Nina went about it, but she does kind of have a reality check, like, oh, maybe I like even like her daughter in the movie is like, what if he does it to Millie too? And she's just she's thinking that he wouldn't do it to Millie, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:28

She can handle herself.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Yeah, which she can. So Nina gets home and accidentally lets this part is not in the book at all. Nina accidentally lets him out, and in the two of them we have the whole chase scene. I was disappointed he only because okay, so basically after he traps Millie in there, she finds the pepper spray Nina had left, and that's how they trap Andrew in there. I was disappointed he only pulled out one tooth in the movie, because in the book he pulls out like all his teeth. And in the book, uh, spoiler alert, like he basically dies like after days of being up there for starvation. And this is an example of how I think putting some a book like this on the big screen makes sense to make the changes because you're not gonna have as much of the thriller if you have him go down like that. It's gonna you're gonna have that thriller aspect by having him chase the ladies around the house, having him fall, and all that, like all that stuff. And then uh basically Nina says, all right, because Millie's like, you know, I'm going back to prison after this, and Nina tells her to get the heck out of there, and that part kind of went down the very same way because when you read the book and you open it up, the first chapter you're assuming because she's like, Yeah, if I walk out of this house, I'm walking out of here in handcuffs. You always thought that was Millie's kind of in-earth monologue, but the whole time it was Nina's, and it turns out that um the cop involved also knew Andrew because in the book it's his the cop's daughter, but they changed it to what sister?

SPEAKER_05 29:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

Um, because you know, female power. And we're able to get by uh with the the two ladies because yes, he deserved it to be locked in that attic.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

And that's how the movie ends.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

With uh And Nina and Cece are able to move across the country and get away, which is very nice.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

You know what? Uh Millie will return what I'm gonna say. In Avengers Doomsday. Um and I agree with you that that in this situation Andrew deserved it. But we're gonna talk about two pieces of media in this podcast episode where husbands are getting slain. And that's a lot the other one Georgia and Georgia.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

All those men had it coming do.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

That's a lot, and I feel like I need to like maybe like sleep with a crowbar or something.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Oh, so this movie was I I you liked it a lot more than I did. It was fun. I also read the book, I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

You you said you liked it though.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

I liked getting out of the house with you, and then I appreciate in hindsight, now that we've been trapped here for more than a week without really leaving, um, the i i I I view it with even more fondness.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

I do think that the ritual of going to the theater. Yes. I do think that Amanda Seafray like stole the show though. She was the best in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Yeah, she does crazy really well and it comes off really well.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

So then she was also able to like flip it over.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Like you said, you know, you know, also I just want to say for all the guys out there, um, I don't think I'm crazy when I say this. Like Oh, geez. Um like maybe this is just an age thing, but but she was looking I'm still in the room! She was looking fine compared, like like You like crazy. Like the scene when she got out, when she got out, yes, and then she's like in the hotel jumping around in her underwear. I'm like, I'll take that.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

Hey, I'm in the room now too.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

I still love Chandler.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

Also, I wish that Enzo would have had a bigger role. He's like that Gardner guy, and he has a much bigger role in the books. And I felt like, I mean, did you even remember Enzo? Like he just kind of showed up every now and then.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

It didn't seem like a character, it's like he and Nina like hook up in the books. Because he did nothing.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

Yeah. Anyway, if you listen to us, spoil the entire plot in the movie. I'm so I'm not sorry because we gave you the warning, but it's still fun. Go watch it. Go go read a book, open a book.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Anyways, um, moving on to actual television. Um we are into the pit, season two. Yes. We're what, four episodes in at this point? I don't know. Um we binged I think four episodes in the last one. If you listen to last week's episode, or not last week, but let the last episode, uh, we binged season one hard. And we did watch the first two episodes of season two, but I don't think we've talked about the last two episodes.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

So there was some stuff that I wanted to talk about because we talked about the pit so long that I needed to touch on briefly that I realized we forgot to say. So if you're not familiar with the pit, each season is one day in the ER. So like it starts with like the hour of seven to eight. So you're supposed to believe that this is a single day. And I think they do a pretty good job for the most part. However, Daniel gets to nitpick stuff all the time. I love this show. This show could be in competition for my best thing going.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I don't get to nitpick things, it's a compulsion, it's a disease, and I fight it every day.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

Anyway, Dr. McKay and her bans in season one, there'd be one shot, they would be like in her eyes, the next shot they'd be trimmed, then they'd be swept to the side, then they'd be lone again in her eyes, then they'd be trimmed. And I feel like this season her banes are a little different. They're just kind of sideswept, like one, like a little bit of a side part, and then the other, kind of like more like a face framing instead of straight across. And I feel like that's gotta be because last season there were definitely seen, and I've I've seen the guy that plays Dr. Robbie like talk about like how he had to make sure his like beard always looked the exact same in each shot because they filmed this over weeks, but it's supposed to be one day. And I'm like, somebody needed to put in there like the bangs with Dr. McKay because they would change there'd be like one, she'd be like with a patient, she'd turn around and her bangs would be different because you could tell they had refilmed it. And I'm pointing it out the whole time, and Daniel's looking at me, I'm like, if you get to do it with stuff, so do I. And I will notice the bangs. Okay. So we have, I think we did talk about the different characters. Um, Dr. Santos, who we all disliked and now we like. Um season two, I'm already missing some of my characters. Where is Kiara? We have a new social worker person. I've got become very attached to Kiara. I've not seen Dr. Abbott yet. Where is Mateo? I heard Mateo and Dr. Abbott are gonna show up soon. Where is my un did did the unbothered king with the iced coffee that he always has? Did he show up in season two yet?

SPEAKER_05 34:58

Not yet.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

One of the night shift guys. The world could be burning, and the guy got he has his Duncan's iced coffee like attached to his hand at all times. And now we have like what else has changed? Just just obviously Dr. Collins, because that actress left the show. I've already to the point where I didn't, they're calling her Dr. Alf.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

I want to make sure this is clear because between last episode and this episode, there was a there was a legitimate, like actually like a five-second 180 because you were anti-Dr. AI.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

I started to come around to her in episode three.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

3.575 episodes, and then in this fourth episode that we watched, suddenly. Well, now I'm shipping Robbie. And she's like, maybe for maybe we could uh discuss it over drinks.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

I was like, I clock that, I clock that tea. I said there's some it's like an enemies to lovers thing, like loathing. You know what I mean? Like an enemies to lovers thing. Yes, obviously. I don't is there what is her actual name? They uh we're all calling her Dr. AI on the code.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

SOT, I think, or something like that. Dr. AI actually goes really well because AI, Alan's.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

I think that's why they did because she's per wanting to do that new thing where they like record and that's how they chart. And it's already they had one of the episodes where they were playing it back and there was already like one word that was wrong because of the patient's accent. And I know I've been where my doctor has been like, Do you care if I record you? And I'm like, oh my gosh, imagine the Appalachian dialect and some of this when they use it.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

It goes all the way back to that Nintendo brain age game where you go it wouldn't un it wouldn't accept the word blue blue from any of us in the family. None of us, not any of us.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Blue. I don't know how I'm saying it wrong. Blue. Blue. I had to say the only way I could get it to work, you had to go blue. And I'm like, who was saying that? I've never seen anybody on TV say blue. It's blue. How do you say blue? Blue, blue, blue, anyway. Blue. But yeah, so but she I think she still is saying, like, check your work though, because she's becoming real hard on Santos about charting. Anyway, I started to like her a little bit, and I was like, there's I'm noticing a spark, even though Dr. Robbie's doing it with that other doc the insurance lady. Insurance lady, I don't know, at the hospital. He just seems like he's just having a reckless time going on his motorcycle without his helmet and sus. But there's there was a vibe, and like when they're they're betting on that thing, and she's like, if I win, I can take you out for drinks. Then I'm like, clock that. Dr. Whitaker. Not only did I clock his living situation in season one, I clocked a future storyline for season two that I was just proved correct.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

I think that was pretty easy to see as a potential in season one. I don't think that's interesting because everyone in line is like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

I feel like that's more of an interesting thing than me clocking him about like living at the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

No, I don't disagree with you that it's an interesting angle.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

So we have that he had that patient, that young patient who was like burned or something, and we didn't now we know that the husband did die. We kind of figured that was gonna happen. But like while before they had moved them out, because once they get out of the ER, we don't know what's going on with these patients until like episodes later. And there was the young wife, and she is always like, You should come to our farm, because he clearly has like farm roots or something. And I guess he's been hanging out with the wife just like I said he would. We don't know if they're like romantic or what, but I clocked that, caught it. We're pretty sure that Santos and my favorite surgeon, Dr. Garcia, are a thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 38:29

I think they've made enough commentary. Uh, really, the in I I enjoy the way they've done it because it's actually been commentary between the characters, Garcia and and Whitaker.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

About but and and Garcia was like, yeah, he uses other people's toothbrushes sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

And so why would she be near his toothbrush? Exactly. That that's how we've it we they haven't directly addressed it, but because we know Whitaker is living with Santos, yeah, then her knowing that information about Whitaker makes you go, wait a second, what's going on here? So yeah, I think that's I love Dr. Garcia.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

I know she can be mean and bratty, but she's a baddie.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Yeah, every time they she shows up, it's a it's a good it's a great time.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

Cinema. Cinema. I hate the new interns. We call the one guy Evil Whitaker. What?

SPEAKER_01 39:13

I think you're supposed to.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

Yeah, I don't mind they're gonna do it on Joy as much.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Right, but I think they're gonna do the trick on you. I think that that by the end of the season they're gonna turn them on you. Just like they did. Remember, you didn't like Santos in season one, and by the end of it, you were like a stand.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

So I still Dr. Mel Kane is my favorite, though.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

I still love her. I love her dynamic with my malpractice king, Dr. Langdon. We did get an update on the dog in the last episode that he does have the dog. There's no update on his marital status, though. I think people did see that he had a ring on, but I'm thinking that there might be some rockiness there. I do what is so funny about this show is I feel like it is a show that is attracting all different types of fans.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

It really is.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

And it's hilarious to me because there's sometimes part of the fun of shipping is you ship something even if you know it's never gonna happen. Uh-huh. And it's like.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Like, what's an example of that?

SPEAKER_03 40:06

Oh, like Dr. Robbie and Whitaker. Like, even though I ship Dr. Robbie with Dr.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

AI, but you need to quit sending me those TikTok ads because it's getting to the point where they're showing up on my good, good, good.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

I do ship uh Mel and LinkedIn, though. I don't care. I don't care. Um You shouldn't. I ship um what's her name? The Pretty Girl in Dr. Abbott.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

I I ship them. They have good they get even though he hasn't showed up yet in season two. But it's so funny because like so many people get into it, and then like there's people that are like very anti-shipping and they're like, this isn't the show for shipping, and they like they're getting so mad about it that they're like, like, you're not a shipper, but you don't get you just find it amusing. You don't get like you don't get like angry about it.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

I think no, I actually admire fun. But listen, okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Shipping is fun.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

I I admire the way they are able to do this show in its like you're basically getting a 15-hour block of time with these characters consecutively. And they're but they are still able to weave in information and character development about these people's lives outside the hospital, which you are never gonna see. Yeah, but in a natural way, they do a great job, that makes sense that doesn't feel ex like just exposition.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

It's not like Stranger Things where Max gives a 15-minute speech.

SPEAKER_01 41:31

Um I agree with I I agree with you fully, and I I am honestly shocked to hear myself say this. But whenever we decide to sit down and have a conversation about the best thing going, this show is gonna be in the conversation. I'm not I I think I said this last episode, I'm not a medical drama guy, but this show's got the sauce. Whatever it is very well written. Whatever it is, this show has got the sauce, it's got it, and it's got me hooked.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

Um each episode I want more.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

Certainly, if you are somebody who doesn't who does enjoy medical dramas, you and you haven't watched this yet, you need to get on this. But I think just if you've got HBO Max in general and you haven't tried the pit out yet, uh you're missing out. You're missing out.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

And like my favorite part of watching shows is for character development. And I was honestly concerned when I saw how the format was that, but they have found a way to do it well. And I feel like you and I were like, Oh, this probably won't be in our best thing going, we're obsessed with it. But it was when we were like itching to watch the next episode that we were like, you know, maybe there's a reason why it's winning awards. And I think it also feels what a blessing it is in the year 2026 to get 15 episode seasons.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Oh, certainly. That um Wow, like I I I pray for days like this. Yeah. Where I could get a fifth like it's cre a 15 episodes, is like if I could get a Star Trek season with 15 these days. Gosh, what what a blessing that would be.

SPEAKER_03 42:57

Can I just say the one thing that and I've seen some different TikToks about this because a lot of people got into it the same way we did. They were stuck in their homes, they needed something to watch, they binged the first season. And it's it's this is a very common thing. This happened with the White Lotus where you have like a show that the first season has some juice, but then the second season everyone's locked in and people sit down and they watch the episode all at once. I will say that binging it added to the element like this is really happening in one day. And it's a little bit harder to do that with the weekly release, but on the flip side of that, some of the episodes can be very heavy and dark. So there's that like break. Like, I don't even know if we talked about it about like Dana, the charge nurse getting punched in the face in season one.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:40

And the fallout from that. Like, it just go watch the pit.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

Yep. And before we transition to our next show, uh briefly, I'm just gonna say I think this has probably been pitched on the internet before, but why can't we get our Star Trek medical ship show? Why? Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait. There are medical ships in Star Trek Canada. That all they do is go to different planets that are having medical emergencies.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Like a Star Trek Grays Anatomy.

Bridgerton season 4, part 1

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Exactly. Why can we not get that? Okay. Anyway, sorry, to delay the inevitable. The infinite march of Shondaland has brought us back.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

At long last.

SPEAKER_01 44:15

At long last. To Bridgerton. To your weight. Season four. The first four episodes. Part one, I guess, is what they're calling it.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Yes. Netflix, stop it with your broken up seasons. Nobody likes it.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

I'm just gonna say it right off the bat before we go any farther. The carriage scene in this season doesn't hold up to last season's.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Well, they only did that as a wink. They did that as a, oh, Colin and Penelope are still getting down and dirty in the carriage. And they did that as because they're not the main couple this season.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

I know, I understand.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

I mean, they're barely the main couple in their own season, but that's how neither here nor there.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Don't start on that. We are at 44 minutes and we've still got a lot of stuff to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 44:54

So I wasn't even gonna bring up the carriage scene.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

Season four. You brought up the carriage scene. Somehow. I don't know how you pulled it off. Maybe it's because my office is sitting at a frigid 50 degrees. Maybe it's because you tricked me in some other way that I'm not even aware of. You're a witch or some sort of sorceress. What did the what did the random TikTok thing call you?

SPEAKER_04 45:18

A nymph.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Never mind. Let's not go there.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

No, get your minds out of the gut.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

I ended up watching about three and a half of the four episodes. Of Bridgerton season four.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

Listen, first off, again, when you make us wait almost two years and you only give me four episodes, that's extremely annoying. I watched it all in one setting. I think I only got up to P like one time. We had that was our first night of like, you know, busting free out of the house or you, and Daniel brought me home a beautiful Taco Bell spread. Just up. I ordered so many different you know, you're getting a lot of Taco Bell when you spend like 45 bucks. I was like, I want this, I want this, I want this. Listen, the snowstorm sacks have dwindled. It's been a very stressful time. All I wanted was Taco Bell. So we got a bunch of different stuff, set it out on the counter, settled in to watch my favorites, comfort show, Bridgerton. This one is based on book three, an offer from a gentleman. This is Benedict's season. And um, off to a great start. I thought the first four episodes were excellent. Each book of Bridgerton kind of focuses on a romantic trope. So season two, this was my favorite. That's the enemies to lovers. And I would always love Anthony Bridgerton. Like you have my heart. Um, season one is like the fake dating scenario, and then book four, which was season three, is kind of the friends to lovers, a little bit of unrequited love. And then this one is the classic Cinderella trope. But they do it very well in the book, and I feel like they've done it very well in the show. Like Sophie was probably I really liked Kate from book two and also season two, how they portray portrayed Kate and the show and the book. Um, but when it came to the book ladies, Sophie probably was my favorite of like the non-Bridgerton lady ladies. Um, not only her story is dark and sad, but like she's still kind of like she has a little bit of some sass, some spunk to her, some sass. She's like a sassy, you know, uh Cinderella, if you will. And I feel like the the actress has really pulled that off. They've done a really great job of bringing Sophie to life. So, and I've seen so many people online, even people that are, you know, not fully sold in the season, they're like, I really do like Sophie, and uh, it makes me my heart very happy because she is and then like anytime she shows up in the other books, it's always it's always fun because each book, like I said, focuses on that sibling, but you still get little sprinklings of the others in there. I think they're doing a very good job of making, at least for the main couple, the league couple, of making the book readers happy. That pleases me. Because as a book reader, I think you should like obviously when you have a show and you have an ensemble cast, you're gonna have to change some stuff.

SPEAKER_05 48:03

Right.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

It's for to make it a show. But seasons one and two were able to accomplish that by still having your side characters, but you still the main focus are those scenes on that main couple. And while I do like season three, I mean I've watched it like 50 times.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Yeah, this is what warp, I don't wanna I don't wanna, I was gonna let you finish. This is what warps my mind when it comes to the popularity of this show between season one, two, and three is that like when you when season two came out until season three came out, I would randomly find you just watching season two. Yes, and then when season three came out, I would come in and just randomly watch find you watching season three. And so I don't understand from my perspective, outside of the Bridgerton verse, was season three criticized for not being as good as the others, or some people, yes.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Okay, and it's because in the my complaints about season three, which I was getting into, is that Colin and Penelope felt like side characters in their love story. Like I saw like more of like I had what we had, like five minutes of Benedict and his three-way. We had such focus on like the Mondriches, which they're not even in the books. It's fine. I enjoy their characters in the show, but they took up a lot of screen time from that main couple. The way I think because season three, there was the whole whistledown reveal with Penelope, they decided to kind of zero in on that a little bit more than they did the actual couple. And that was a little disappointing, I think, to a lot of us, especially for those back half of the episodes of season three. I still really liked season three. Honestly, when I look back, like my least favorite book, well, not my least favorite, but um it's definitely not in my top of the Bridgeton books, is season one. While I loved season one in the show, and that I watched season one before I read all the other Bridgerton books, and it got me into it. I would say, like, that, like I still actually like three better than season one. But I wished that Colin and Penelope could have gotten the same focus that Simon and Daphne did. We still got to, with Simon and Daphne, with Anthony and Kate, we got to see all these other side characters, but they were still at the center of it. And that for me is where season three kind of got on my nerves a little bit. And when I do my rewatches, if you've noticed, I tint you fast forward and I go to all of Colin and Penelope's scenes and I cut out a lot of the extra stuff because that's what I want to see. I want to see the carriage scene, uh, which was great, by the way, in season three. Iconic, legendary. Um, they did that, they at least they gave book readers that. So I think why season four, though, is making a case that it could be possibly my favorite since season two is because the main couple, Benedict and Sophie, are at the center again. But I mean, you sat there and watched it with me. They're at the center, but they're still also paying mind to the other storylines. And I think the show is doing a good job too, because Sophie, she is, you know, she's not a noble woman, she is basically like a bastard daughter. Let's do are women bastard kids?

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Like, has that's what they have been saying in the show.

SPEAKER_03 51:05

I've never heard it that way, but I guess that would be her dad had a mistress, that's how she was born, so he calls her like his ward or whatever. But in you get a little bit of the books, but like when you're putting on the show, we're getting for the first time to see the backstory of like all the maids that we're getting. And I think that's a I think that is a good addition that the show is doing. All right, what did you want to say, real quick?

SPEAKER_01 51:27

I I agree with you. Like, I again I haven't watched this is the most I've watched of any of the Bridgerton seasons, I would say, right?

SPEAKER_03 51:34

Yeah, other than when I watched season one, two, and three, every time Daniel would walk in the room, someone would be getting it on.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

So now you know the show is not only about that.

SPEAKER_01 51:43

But I would say I feel like they did do a good sh job of balancing the uh the B storylines, I guess you would call them, but the A storyline was prevalent and and forward in this season in a way that made sense to me, just knowing what I know about the series, where while I think the books are probably even more hyper-focused on the the A storylines than the show is. But I mean the books are pretty much all Benedict's point of view. But I understand you have to, in a, to keep a TV show going, you have to kind of break it out a little bit. And so I think that it seems like maybe they l took some of the criticisms from season three and were able to apply that to season four. Of course, obviously you've got four episodes left for them to ruin that.

SPEAKER_03 52:23

Which hopefully they won't. Um, but I thought they I I really so that is a definitely a positive change that I like that we're back to kind of the basics of that league couple. But they did give us a little Colin and Penelope, a very quick little that I think that was just a wink to like, hey, Colin and Penelope are still getting frisky in the carriage. Um there's still some complaints that I have about it. I could talk about Francesca's stuff till I'm blue in the face. I have made peace with the fact that I won't get to see Michael Sterling because I think it's just clear that Michael was too good in the books. A man can't really be that good in real life, so let's make a man uh let's make Michael Michaela. I've made peace with that. That's fine. I think it's really I think there some of the discourse among fans online, this is where I need people to like take a beat. Uh again, love keto rivalry. I support all of, you know, same-sex couples. There's I think why people were so upset is because people liked Michael so much. I was like, oh, well, this is a shock. My thing that annoys me about Francesca's storyline has nothing to do with them making Michael Michaela. I think it makes sense. That can give representation, but it's the way she is with John. Because in the books, she loved John. Spoiler alert, John's gonna die. And I don't, I think he they might go ahead and have it happen this season, based on what I'm seeing. But she loved John. She didn't think about Michael at all in that way, and they're kind of making her like already into Michaela, and I don't love that. Because a lot like it was her stories dealt with like second love's infertility, which they can still do the infertility storyline, but I don't I feel like they're getting her and John's love a little bit incorrect, and I think that's where my beef with that goes. But if you want to change that, fine. I'm really glad that they are giving us Sophie and Benedict where we got like the lake scene from the book, so I like that. I know they're always gonna change stuff, um, but I just felt like I had because people are still arguing about the whole Francesca thing. And I I think it's really annoying when people are like, this is why we're upset, and everyone's like, oh, well, are you homophobic? Did I I s no? We're fine with like, I mean, I'm sure some people are. I am fine with Michael being Michaela. I'm annoyed at them making disrespecting John, which has nothing to do with like it could be Michael, it could be Michaela, who cares? I don't like the way they're going about that because that's not book accurate. And one of my beefs was season two, by the way. Um in season two, which is my favorite season of Bridgerton, my favorite book, they introduced a love triangle between Kate and her sister that did not exist in the book. So I sometimes I think TV does that to make it a little dramatic. But another thing that I'll say about what they're doing with Francesca, who I think we are to assume is probably bisexual. Sometimes television does not represent bisexuality well. They will they will often make bisexuals do like the cheating trope, which is super annoying to me. So if she's going to, I don't, I hope she doesn't cheat on John, but it's clear she might emotionally be. I don't think that's good either. You know what I mean?

unknown 55:29

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 55:29

And Benedict in the show is canonically bi, and they're doing in that and they're doing, you know, they're sticking with his love story with Sophie, and I think they've done, I think they did well um representing bisexuality in that aspect of it. But yeah, I feel I feel like there's always gonna be arguments amongst fans, but I feel like sometimes the Bridgerton fan base can be very toxic in their like attitudes towards different things. Can I just say real quick, I did not have I knew she was cast, but then just seeing her on screen. Cho Chang from Harry Potter is like the evil stepmother. Like, I'm like, she I remember when she they first announced that this actress was cast, we're like, oh, she's gonna play Sophie, and then we're like, no, no, no. But it would make sense for how young they marry at that age. She is the actress, is 38 in real life, which I had no idea she was like close to like, you know, my age. But in my brain, Harry Potter is still, you know, those movies came out just a couple years ago. So to do with that what you will. But I remember we're all like, oh, is she gonna play Sophie? It just it hit hard that she was gonna be the stepmother. Uh I love one of my favorite things about Bridgerton is, and this is what really drew me in with season one, is how they take popular current songs and they make it into like an orchestra classical version.

SPEAKER_01 56:51

I do have to admit I am also a mark for that. Um, I do really like any modern music being turned into classical music is very exciting to me. And the one I know that you've got a Taylor Swift song in this one that you were very excited about and you knew about already, but the one that was early or before that that came on that I couldn't neither of us could name it until we looked it up. I never heard this song. Yeah, it was really, really well done.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

Never let you go by third eye blind. We were trying to figure out, and I was like, I just I guess I didn't click to me. I mean, I should have known. They used Pitbull for the carriage scene last year. But one, that song is pretty old. Yeah, that third eye blinds, and I just didn't, I don't think third eye blind, Burger Jen.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

It activated my millennial brain in a way, but I was I was like, I know this is great, but what is the name of this song? And I could not name it until you uh got the playlist and and looked it up.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

Well, as you said, we were all very excited for Enchanted. When I read the book, so I watched again, I watched the very first season of Burgesson, ordered the books immediately, read all the books very quickly, and I remember I'm like, when they do Benedict's season, I'm like, they have to use Enchanted. So we all like basically manifested it, and the way they used it was so good. I did cry. I was so excited, I was so happy. I I hope they don't flop with the back half. I hope they don't flop. I hope they keep they that they turn it good. I know a lot of people are very upset with Benedict right now. As a book reader, I keep forgetting that not everybody reads the books. I knew that's how they're gonna end it because he basically like asked her at the end, because remember, she is not from the same social class. He gives this impassionate speech like all the Bridgermen do. And then Benedict thought he ate this line and he's like, be my mistress. And then we she she runs off because I don't think he knows one, her trauma that she has that she is, you know, was somebody's mistress, his daughter, and runs off, and he's just like because I think again, I'm not that was a horrible thing that he said, but in his defense, I think he thought that was the only way they could be together. Um, and also Benedict, my dude, like, and I like imagine our girl Sophie, by the way, because at this point Benedict was still chasing the lady in silver who was Sophie who had snuck into the ball, but then he sees her as a maid. We have the whole thing. So imagine being so iconic, Sophie, that you're in a love triangle with yourself. Like you, your woman, when you're a woman, silver a Cinderella, the maid, and then Benedict. And he was like, it's better than any fantasy I could ever imagine. Be my mistress. So everybody's pretty upset at Benedict right now. I think that but I think it's gonna work out.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

They cut the parts of the season pretty much like is the book pretty much kind of like the back half of the book is yet to come.

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Is that yeah, I think Benedict, if they I'm hoping they don't do some of what Benedict does in the book, if they're gonna make some changes, because he does some of the book he gets there's some blackmail that he does with Sophia Little.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

I was gonna ask if he goes and does do it does any raking.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

He is a rake. But there's I think they might soften that a little bit, change that, I hope. Um I think people still might be just a tad upset because you have to realize like that would be like quite the scandal. Now, one more thing before we wrap up the Bridgerton talk, and I have found my people on the internet, my heated rivalry Bridgerton fans, because when he's and they do it is called My Cottage is the name of it, M Y Space Cottage. And he's been of course Benedict would name his cottage my cottage, and I forgot that they stop and go to the cottage when he's hurt and like he's taking her home after he rescues her from that terrible man. And I'm like, oh, we're going back to the cottage. I was like, is this the year the cottage is? Because we have the cottage from I'm going to the cottage, I'm coming to the cottage. We have the cottage from evil rivalry and the cottage from Bridgerton. So that was that was pretty cool. So I need I need to ask you this, Daniel. As somebody who this is the most Bridgerton you've ever watched, do you see why I love this show?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

Listen, um, just looking at the show from a production standpoint, like it looks great. The I thought, and I and you'll have to tell me because I'm not sure. Like the they had some shots of like old London in this season that I don't remember seeing in previous seasons that I thought looked really, like, really, really well done. Um it looks great, the production quality is high. I think you know, I get it. If you're if this is the kind if this genre is up your alley, I don't see why this would not be a satisfactory show to you. Um because it's it's got everything that you want it to have.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:17

The only disappointment of part one was that Jonathan Bailey as Anthony Bridgerton was not in part one, but I knew that going in, I'd have that spoiled for me, and he he will return.

Fallout season 2, episode 7

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

It just gives you that Antissa patience. Alright. Um, okay, Fallout, uh, season two, episode seven. There's only one episode left. I feel like we're kind of building up to a couple things here.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:42

If I don't see Cooper slash the ghoul's wife and daughter, be let out of their canisters, I don't know what you call them, like their holding pins. Their cryogenic pods. Cryo whatever their pods by the end of this episode, and we're gonna have to drag that out till season three. I I will be I will be irritated.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

I think that um with one episode to go, you'll they'll he will either be have let them out or be standing right in front of their pods.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

I'm happy that Lucy finally changed clothes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Lucy changed clothes, she's with her dad, she's decided to give him a little bit of time to see just how evil he's become.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

The eye patch lady that's running the one vault that was in the the pods that had woken up. We got more of her backstory. She's from Canada, and they made some jokes about Americans in there that was just I can't believe they did that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

Timely, timely to say the least. Um so the the ghoul along with uh Maximus and Thaddeus have broken into well, Thaddeus lost his arm, he's still outside, broken into the um casino where Doc Mr. House is uh holed up, and uh only to find so the ghoul leaves Mark Maximus fighting the super mutants, and we're not quite sure how well that fight's gonna go for him. Yeah, and the ghoul ends up in front of this computer screen and meets up the sh episode ends with him and Mr. House, a digital version.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

All I could think about uh with the digital version of Mr. House was Ross going and live forever as a machine from the Hajanine we're interfacing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:20

So it was kind of built a lot. This I mean, I this was a good episode, but it was kind of a build episode. It was an episode to get you ready for what's going to come in the the final episode. I'm gonna be a little disappointed if Macaulay Calkin and the Legionnaire storyline doesn't come back around full circle somehow because they when we left that when when the ghoul you know set off that explosion and got got those two factions of the Legionnaire to fight each other, he you know, he made commentary to this, I'm not sure if I did the right thing now there or not. To make to me that was you know, well, haven't some of those castings been working with Lucy's dad?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:04

Or is that the display?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Well, we've seen a couple of them by him because he's been mind controlling. Uncle Rico was part of the new California Republic.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

New California Republic.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:12

So he's been mind controlling them, but we don't know, so so I I feel like they might end up showing up in New Vegas somehow and and causing chaos somehow. Obviously, I just want to see Macaulay Calkin again.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:25

I had forgotten completely that Macaulay Calkin and Watton Goggins worked together on Gemstones. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he played the adult version of Baby Billy's son. Like totally slipped my mind. I was like, oh, they have, haven't they?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

So but I do think um I think this season's been great, and and this is again, I don't know that I would say it's at the level of the best thing going. But it's not a good thing. But it is certainly a show that is we've been happy to have it these last few weeks when kind of the getting us through the drought, and it's entertaining and fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

All right. And we also welcome back shrinking season three, um, episode one. That's all we got. We got one. I've been you so used to shows giving me like two, at least two episodes to start everything with. But we got um the first episode. I don't know what else to say, but please go watch shrinking. It is on Apple TV, I think that's all we're calling it these days. They like to change their name too. Um, obviously Harrison Ford's character. Um, what is his name in the show? I'm like blanking. Paul. His Parkinson's is getting even worse. Michael J. Fox guest starred.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:30

Yes. Um first time he's been in acting in a long time. Yeah. Really effective. Obviously, he has Parkinson's. Well, the way they're using him in the episode um was unexpected. But at the same time, as soon as you as soon as they revealed that at the end of the episode, which I'm not even gonna spoil that, it was like, oh duh, I should have seen this coming. Oh man. That's perfect. Um so I'm really excited for the season. This is a great show. This is one of those shows.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:56

Talk about character development and characterization.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:58

This is one of those shows that. That is again like the best thing going is such a hard thing to qualify.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:07

It's very much like Ted Lasso when it comes to you can be laughing one second and then on the verge of tears in the next second. I do believe the same people write that wrote for Ted Lasso write for this, correct?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

But the thing is, like with this show, we have a tendency, you and I, well, I say we, I mean you and I have a tendency to see something happen in a show and we'll pause it and go, oh, this bad thing is gonna happen because of this. And this is one of those shows that always skirts our expectations on that because they're moving that the because it's one of those rare shows like a Ted Lasso was. Yeah. It is actually trying to be positive and bring a positive attitude in the world. And I appreciate that, even if it is really difficult for me and you to get our heads wrapped around that kind of storytelling.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:49

We thought the big uh uh-oh was gonna be something completely different than it was, and then it was even it was this this my opinion was even more of a gut punch, but it just it showed how dark our brains had gotten though, because we thought that like Jimmy was gonna like do something stupid and go watch shrinking, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

If you've got Apple TV, go watch Shrinking.

Tell Me Lies season 3, episode 4-5

SPEAKER_03 1:07:08

Looking for another show, and or if you've already listened to us and watched the pit and you need something else to binge and you haven't watched shrinking yet, you have two seasons, and then plus you'll be caught up in time for season three. Alright, so the other show that we have going on is Tell Me Lies season three. I watched episodes four and five. Steven DeMarco, the villain that you are. I will say in the pre in the most recent episode, season five, we find out that Steven got into Yale, and I've never been so happy than to see um that Steven had no one to celebrate getting into Yale with, and that everyone was just like, uh, whatever about it. Um Bree and Wrigley, I ship them so hard. I know that obviously Bree and Evan go through with a wedding and they get married, blah, blah, blah. And we uh, but I I need I need something to happen with Bree and Wrigley. They are so pure. I love them so much. Lucy, I've defended Lucy so much for things that she has done because I feel like what a lot of what she does is she acts on emotion, but she needs some mental help. She's playing that evil voicemail Steven sent her and like, you know, doing things while as she listens to it. And my homegirl needs some help. So I don't know. We don't know. We don't have season four confirmed, and we only have a few more episodes left of season three, and I'm like, I'm gonna need them to make a season four because I just don't know how we're going to wrap everything up in time. The only thing that I will be happy with is if Steven DeMarco goes to prison. And can I just say something that I realized about Steven DeMarco, the actor Jackson um, I think his name is Jackson White. So I'm sitting there, I I always rewatch, you know, I always rewatch the middle episodes like around Christmas and the holidays. So I had just watched the New Year's Eve episode from the middle. It wasn't until I get on TikTok that I realized that Sue's like boyfriend that she had for a while, Aiden, who like ruined hers and Sean's New Year's kiss. That's freaking Steven. Steven! Steven! And now that I see it, I'm like, oh my god, they do look alike. But it's just I think what it is is somebody pointing this out. Because I watched Jackson um promoting the show in some late night interviews, and we're all like, oh my god, is this the first time we've seen Steven smile? Genuinely. I think it's because I I haven't seen him smile on the show, and he just plays evil so well. But tell me lies is it's just so good. What do you think about it? Every time you watch that, you're just like, oh my lord.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

It's a bit much for me, in my opinion. I think I I don't, I don't, I'm not this this doesn't grab me in the same way that like sitting in on even a Bridgerton could could possibly do so.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

Yes, uh shows like Heated Rivalry and Bridgerton make you believe in love again, and Tell Me Lies just tears that all apart with its toxicity.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

The perfect show to watch in a January, February time frame.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:51

So all right. Well, we do have some other shows that we've watched, um, including another talk about toxic, another series on Netflix I watched caught his and hers, um, that I just like randomly watched. I think Daniel watched a couple episodes of that with me. Um, but I will talk about that in the future. This is your warning, or not your, I guess that sounds toxic. This is your recommendation. Go watch his and hers on Netflix so you can be involved in the conversation when we discuss that in the future. We have also listened to some longtime uh listener recommendations because you guys were right on Tell Me Lies. And we have watched all of Ginny and Georgia, and Daniel has watched most of it with me too, and we have a lot to say on that. Um, I will say good job, guys. I feel like you guys know me very well with the recommendations that you send our way. Uh, but I I really have to pee, so I feel like I need to wrap up my portion of the podcast, and um, I don't want to make this podcast as long as the month is January has been. So that that's I'm hope out. Anything else you want to say, Daniel?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:50

Just last thing. Uh, we did get an announcement uh that makes all of my podcast titling wrong. Um, Ted Lasso season four has been announced for this summer. So all of you who have seen our Ted Lasso Supercuts and all and Ted Lasso season series finale episodes, here we are. We're getting more Ted Lasso. Um, which, you know, I'm not gonna say I'm not excited about, but it's one of those things where it's like, I feel like they could have probably branded this as a different show, but so listen, thank you everybody for joining us. Stay warm, and we will see you next time.