We Watch TV Episode 132 – Ginny & Georgia

 In this episode of We Watch TV, Hope and Daniel react to the limited Netflix series, His & Hers. After listeners recommended it, Hope and Daniel finally watched seasons 1-3 of Ginny & Georgia…and they have a lot of thoughts. The hosts also chat about the latest from Shrinking season 3 as well as react to their first time viewing the iconic early 2000s sitcom, Malcom in the Middle!

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:03:25) His & Hers
(00:12:49) Ginny & Georgia (seasons 1-3)
(00:26:20) Malcom in the Middle
(00:29:55) Scrubs
(00:30:53) Shrinking season 3 
(00:34:17) Chit Chat

Music by yourtunes from Pixabay

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Transcript

Intro

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Hey everybody and welcome to We Watch TV. It is the podcast about the TV that we watch. I am Daniel Sheas Hope. This is episode 132, and we are coming to you approximately five minutes after recording last week's episode. And I have a point that I didn't really get to explore on last week's episode that I want to go ahead and just talk about real quick right here.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

I wasn't even listening to you talking just now. I was reading a text message. So you you what?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Last week you mentioned that we had watched some Jeopardy. And on a Jeopardy episode, you had mentioned pop culture. You didn't get the answer to a question. And you expected me to get the answer to the question because of the question about a Star Trek.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Yes, I mean not every Star Trek's right.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

No, no, wait, no, wait. And in particular, it was about the the the question was you have to name the character from a movie, and it was Star Trek VI. It wasn't, and I didn't even know the movie because it's a very small um small character in that movie. But you're gonna lose the audience from this episode if you don't hurry up. Let me watch that one yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

I didn't say that's not what I said.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

That is exactly what you said.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Please do the hey everybody and welcome because so we don't lose our whole audience.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

I already did that.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

You already did that? Really? I guess you just lost your co-host instead.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

I don't think I've ever had her. I thought you were paying attention, and then you look up. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

This is what it's like dealing with you 24 hours. Anytime I'm trying to give you fun facts, information, talk to you, ask you questions.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Maybe they're not that fun of facts.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Sometimes it's like, Daniel, I need you to clean the toilet, and you'll be like, I'll do it later.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

I always do it later. Later is a very nebulous term. You need to be a little bit more specific.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

You didn't even follow my show notes. My show notes was gonna say coming to you live, but not live, from the past, in our future, but your present. I thought that's it.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Okay, well, one, you did not type all of that out. And two, I did kind of refer to that. You just didn't listen to the first 40 seconds of my monologue that I started the podcast off with.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

And probably not, and many people are listening to us talk right now.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Okay. Well, listen, so the reason that we broke this episode out from last week's episode is because we um rambled a lot, and also uh have just with taking a couple weeks off, we have a bunch of stuff that we need to talk about, including one thing that wasn't even we'd already wiped finished this one thing before we recorded the the pre the episode 130, and we just didn't talk about it because we had a lot of stuff to talk about. So um anyways, we're catching up. Because there's been a it's weird, it doesn't feel like there's been a lot of stuff out. But then I look at the list between the notes from this week and last, and there's actually been quite a bit of stuff coming out.

His & Hers

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Well, it was a combo of like when I was stuck in the house with quarantine, and then we had bad weather for like two months, and you're just not leaving your home a lot. You you're watching, you're just grasping to try to watch all the content you can. And we've promised, I feel like, in our podcast episode, like you said, 130, that we would talk about his and hers, and then we ran out of time last time. You forgot what his and talk about me not listening. You're like, what is his and hers? His and hers.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

I still don't really know, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Well, I don't think you watch you you popped in and out of it, but you did watch like the last two episodes. His and hers is considered a limited series on Netflix, and it stars John Birth. I can't say his name. I just call him Shane from The Walking Dead. John Berth Burnt Burnthaw. Burnthaw Hawkeye. He still looks good. And uh the girl from Thor, I believe Valkyrie, she's been also in the uh Creed movies. What is her name?

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Tessa Thompson. Okay, I was gonna say her name. I have no idea where I pulled that from, but I got it.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

A broken clock, what is it? It's like right twice a day. I can't even get the saying right.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Not if it's digital.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

That saying really doesn't make sense anymore, does it?

SPEAKER_01 4:14

If it's a regular clock, yeah, but I never like telling time on regular.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

And I you know what I really hate when it's always like some old person, I'll be like, what time is it? I'll be like, it's a quarter past twelve. Can you that means twelve forty, right? Or twelve forty five or something. I don't even know what it means. What does a quarter past twelve mean?

SPEAKER_01 4:30

1215.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Really?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

I thought this would say it's 15 past 12. I've heard people say that.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

It's quarter past 12 is 1245. Are you sure? Half past twelve is twelve thirty. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. There's no special saying for twelve forty-five. So actually, twelve forty-five would be quarter to one.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Maybe that's what I'm getting it from. You you I like how you speak boomer because I don't.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

But hey, listen, you know what? Don't feel shame when these people shame you about that kind of thing, because they're the kind of same people who when they pick up their phone to text you, they just start talking to their phone and text a speech, and then half the words don't work.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

That's that's true. That's true. Uh so his and hers. I started watching this, and then in true hope and daniel fashion, you popped in. Um, you popped out. It was a mi it's basically it opens up, we have a murder right off the bat, uh, we have the it you have his perspective, you have her perspective, but we have he is the cop in this small town. She has left said small town and is a news reporter, but been mysteriously off for a year. Uh it's like, you know, you don't have to put me at the main desk, but send me back to this community and I can, you know, report live on the scene, and we find out that they are divorced. Um it's a whole thing. We've we have uh he's living with his sister right now and his niece. She is staying at a hotel. She doesn't really want to stay with her mom. She goes to visit her mom. We find out her mom has dementia, kind of pretty sad. Her mom's been seen out wandering around. They've had to like take her back to the house a couple times. So her ex-husband still keeps in contact with the mother. Um, she has a former friend friend group, toxic. We just love toxic TV in this household. Um, that kind of comes into play. And then she's also having a rivalry with her um fellow like anchor woman, I guess, at the big city in Atlanta news station. And it's all revolving around who killed this woman, Rachel. Um, and they make you think at one point that she did it, they make you think that he did it. His and hers. His and hers. And then that's the whole, and I do like a good mystery where I'm trying to who done it, where I'm trying to figure it out. So I it's very like I would say it's would you I'm not trying to be elitist when I say this, but would you say that my description of it's a very shallow version of a whodunit story? Do you would you understand what I'm saying by that? Like it's it's not the best, you know, but it's not the worst.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

I gotta be honest, like lately, who-doneits um have been pretty shallow.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Yeah, but you can go back in this one and you you they do they do pay it forward. Like you okay, like you you make sense, be like, oh, I see. Because at one point I thought I got the twist. I was like, oh, I know.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Like the knives out movies have done a good job, but a lot of other whodunits like I I guess I have to go back to one of our favorite shows on this podcast, but like only murders in the building has been phoning in the whodunit format for a couple seasons now. Yeah. Um, so did they did they get it?

SPEAKER_00 7:31

A little better here. Yeah, I think only murders is now more about the vibes, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Right, but it's still technically a who-dunes.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yes, it's still and at one point though, uh, and I was talking a big game too. I was like, oh, I figured it out. And then we had a half hour left. I was like, oops. So I figured part of it out. So her like little anchor woman that she's having a um, you know, kind of a rivalry with, I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, that was the chubby girl that was trying to get in our friends group that the other friends made fun of, but then the chubby girl blamed her, um, Tessa Thompson's character, for being for be like, this is your fault, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Oh, she lost a bunch of weight, dyed her hair blonde, you know, got super hot. And now, you know, not only did she take the anchor job, but now she's wanting to, you know, you know, secure her position. And while, yes, she did, that is the girl, and she did do bad things because it's confirmed, she inadvertently killed her own sister by not giving her sister her inhaler. And I was like, oh, reminder, I gotta go take my inhaler now. Uh, she intentionally made it so that the girl wouldn't who had very bad asthma would not have the inhaler on the boat. So would that would that be called like manslaughter? She didn't have because she didn't directly murder her, but she took away the device to save her life. I don't know. What would you call that?

SPEAKER_02 8:39

I don't know. I don't know what you call it. Not a lawyer.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

I'd say like if you're a real cop or a real lawyer, and even as me, like a former journalist watching this show, you're gonna be like, this isn't how stuff works. That's why you just got that's what I mean by shallow. You just gotta roll with it. Um so it does turn, I mean, she does have a gun, and like her her husband, who was also hooking up with Tessa Thompson's character, um, is like the cameraman for the station. They're kind of like working together, but they aren't like the killer or the main killer. They were just, I think, kind of self-serving, and I don't, I don't really, I kind of don't remember it either. Um but then it turns out, uh again, give please give the spoiler um as I've already got a few.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Hey everybody, this is a spoiler podcast. We're gonna talk about spoilers for the shows that we watch. So if you don't want to hear a spoiler about the show that we're watching, then you should go down to the bottom and check the ch chapter markers and click to the next chapter so that you can hear us talk about whatever it is we're gonna talk about next.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

All right, so Handy Dandy, uh dementia mommy, turns out to be the final boss and is the killer. And I was like, and then I did figure that out again, but like it was literally I figured it out two seconds before she Tessa Thompson's character started reading the letter. I was like, oh, I was like, I just figured it out. And you were like, Hope you just figured it out like five seconds, but I still figured it out before. I bet other people had to wait for that whole monologue to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

I don't recall. Does she actually still have dementia and is the killer, or was she faking the dementia in order to make herself nothing?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

She was faking it, baby. Okay, because she found out she watched these tapes, um, because it was all on tape. Like basically, she saw her daughter's friends help get her daughter essay'd in the woods and decided that she was going to do a revenge years later on all these people. Um, and she's like, and this is what a mother's love would do. Because the reason why you find out that the his and hers of it with the couple why they separated was because their baby died, which had nothing to do. That baby just died on its own. But that's the whole reason why, you know, the one character went away. So that that's just why they those two were not together because the loss of their child, no one killed that child, it was just it died of like natural causes. But i the the mom like watches these tapes when she misses her daughter and these tapes that they made when they were young because you know they're like their their high school flashbacks are now like our high school flashbacks, so that's fun that we're like the flashback era of shows. Um, they might even be technically a little younger than us in the show. Um and the mom realizes what the daughter's friends did and decides to make like a hit list. So she she she was when she was found out wondering in the streets, it's because she murdered somebody when she was acting like she didn't know what was going on, giving the other cop like, you know, water instead of tea, you know, throwing her off the scent because the one cop starts to expect Shane from the Walking Dead characters, John Berthenall's character of being the murderer. I knew it was never gonna be him. He did hook up with Rachel, the one that died in the beginning. Do you remember that? No, like that was revealed, but I knew that was all red herring.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Um where's Rachel?

SPEAKER_00 11:41

Every time. But I thought this was a good, like, if you're looking for a filler show, and even me, my our rambling, Daniel doesn't remember, even though we watched it, even I I barely remember it. Um, so I feel like even in our rambling, if you're like, oh, I know that it's gonna be the crazy mom, you could still watch this show and just forget everything I said, like we've forgotten about the show, and you could probably enjoy it, his and hers.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Well, the best thing about a Who Done It that is good is they should be rewatchable. Yeah. Because you should be able to rewatch a Who Done It knowing Who Done It and pick and be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

And they do they show the payoff, like and I'm like, if it's a good one, it should work. I wasn't gonna expect the sweet mother. Um, but yeah, so his and hers finally came through the br I don't know, what like four weeks later we're finally talking about the show. So anything else you want to say that you you do you have any memory? I feel like you do now a little bit, right? Are you still like what was this?

SPEAKER_01 12:38

No, not much. No, not much.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

You watched at least the last two episodes live and in person and on the couch with me.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

But did I? But you didn't because I'm in the room.

Ginny & Georgia (seasons 1-3)

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Well Okay, this next one I did not watch all of either. But I do remember it. I because I was in for a lot more of it than I r think I was. Also Netflix, not a limited series, we have watched seasons one, two, and three of Jenny and Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

This has been another listener recommendation in the vein of Tell Me Lies. Um one of the reasons why I was like, I'm not sure about the I always thought maybe I'd like it, but I'm like, oh, it's probably just like Gilmore Girls. It's like if Gilmore Girls was real life, maybe, and you don't it makes you appreciate Emily and Richards' toxicity a little bit compared to what the stuff Georgia's been through, correct?

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Yeah. Uh this uh so here's my my issue with this show right off the bat.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Um do you want to give a synopsis about what the show is about?

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Jenny and Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Okay, so my gosh. Jenny and Georgia. Georgia is the mother. She had Jenny when she was 15, so it is very much a Lorelei Rory type of situation. Georgia has another child, Austin, with a separate baby daddy, and it is about um, you know, their lives. It starts off right off the bat with um the man that she's marrying passing away, so she he seemed to be a rich man, um, but a bad man, and she has this money and they go to this new town, which I feel like is slightly outside of the Boston area, and and go.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Oh, and go. Um spoilers again, she killed him. Her husband that she walked that they left at the beginning. Right? Yes, and the other one before that, too. Because turns out Georgia's a double murderer. Which you wouldn't know if you watched the show and you just are watching it, paying attention to it, listening to like the funny little music cues that they put up and the scenarios that they put on. The tone of this show is weirdly off in a way that I just can't quite get on board with. Because it is funny but dark and depressing. Abuse, racism, racism, depression, depression, self-harm, self-harm, murder, murder, games all here. And yet at the and yet at the same time, it's like has like the funny bipolar. There's another one. Okay. The funny little like scene change music. We're like, oh, what an awkward situation. Do-do-do-do-do, we're going to the next scene. Oh! Austin just watched his mom, or Austin just shot his dad. Like, it's just so tonal. But it is funny. I know, but they don't, but the just the way they edit it and cut it together, it's like the the director and the actors think they're making one show, and then the editor thinks he's editing a completely different show.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

It's like dark Gilmore girls. Can I just say though, that they did clock meal on that reference? She's like, we're like the Gilmore girls in the very in like the very first or second episode. Like they know that they're gonna get compared to that, so I appreciated the reference.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

I wish we would have talked about Jenny and George's sooner because you did enjoy it though.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

I mean, it was entertaining for the slop that it is.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

And that's Daniel for you, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

That's Garland for you.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

That's a that's a deep cut to a Hallmark reference.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

That's just how much that's how rotted my brain is at this point.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Just like you have ruined me with Star Trek, I have ruined you with Hallmark goodness.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

So one of those things you learn good lessons from, and the other one of those things you learn that you should always give up your career to go hang out in a small town and maybe maybe marry Santa's son.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

I would totally marry Santa's son.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

You're married to me!

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Can you become Santa? Go kick push Santa off a roof.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

I don't want that job. I want to hang out with elves all day. I don't want to have I mean, you know, actually, now that I think about it, only having to work one day of the year is very appealing. Hmm. It would be like an 80s.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

He has to check them twice. Make it. Oh, yeah, that sounds like a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

That sounds like a nightmare to me. You would just outsource it. It would be like that Hallmark movie where we outsourced for list checking. Exactly. Exactly. And here we are. Oh, yeah. Here we are, everyone. Jenny and Georgia. It's the show we're talking about. Not Hallmark movies.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Is what while Emily and Richard and Gilmore Girls are toxic, at the end of the day, Laura Lye was still privileged. She still had that support system. Georgia was assaulted by her stepdad. Her real dad is in prison, I think, for trying to kill her. No relationship with her mother. Um, this is like, so she one of the reasons why she's made some choices that she's done is all in the name of protecting your kids, protecting herself. So she, this is what would happen if Laura Lai hadn't had that safety net, these opportunities. That's why I said it makes you kind of appreciate having a Richard and Emily around just to have at the end of the day, Lorelai was never gonna starve or go hungry or anything like that. She still had so it's it's actually very sad. And the reason why she poisoned the one husband, well, the first husband, she didn't mean to kill him. That was accidental. She just wanted to get away from him. Um, the second husband, he was like assault ready to like assault um Jenny. So she poisoned his little drink.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

The the third murder Oh, I forgot about the third murder. Did the triple murder. I'm sorry. I think in her.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Cynthia's husband, who was on um, I think like hospice life support, basically a vegetable at this point, and where Cynthia helped her get away from her baby daddy number two's like abuse. I feel like in Georgia's twisted, screwed-up brain. So she was helping Cynthia by releasing Cynthia of, you know, having to live out that because he could have died at any moment. And I feel like in her own screwed up way, like this is that's the thing. Georgia makes terrible decisions, but you can justify why she might have made these choices. Um let's talk about the men of the show. It's like every man like falls head over heels in love with Georgia. So we have Zion, the baby daddy, who is um, what is it, Black Noir, number two from The Boys? Hot. Love, I did not, he kind of made me mad in season three, but I thought I was gonna have a Christopher situation. I can't stand Christopher from Gilmore Girls, and neither can you, right? Rory's baby daddy. Do not like him.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

But blood boils at the thought of him.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

I love Zion, but he did make me a little upset in season three when he was because I think he was learning he and but to give him credit, he's learning all these things he never knew about Georgia. Correct. The person that's the mother of the biggest.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

The double murders, all the murder.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

What my beef with my beef with him is that he knew Gil was bad. I don't think he knew the extent that Gil was abusive to Georgia, but the fact that he who because basically Zion treats Austin as if he's his child and he went along with Gil for the whole custody thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Is Gil Iceman?

SPEAKER_00 20:03

I think Gil's is Iceman's twin brother because those are those two twin actors in real life. So I I I believe Gil is the one from that lock and key show that is twin brother of Iceman. We just we're talking about X-Men here, by the way. Both Iceman and his brother Iceman both show up in Smallville, though.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

I don't care about that show.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Alright. Well, anyway, you were you were the one that brought it up.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

What why what does me bringing up X-Men have to do with Smallville, a DC property?

SPEAKER_00 20:32

I'm really excited for Doomsday just because the X-Men.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Same.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Anyway. Anyway, back back to Jenny in Georgia. Um, I think it really did deal with like self-harm well, because you have Jenny, she uh that's the you know, such a young girl, and it was really hard to watch her go through that, but like they get her into therapy and they talk through, and I think like yeah, there's a lot of dark topics addressed in this show. But you're right, like one minute it'll be something really dark. The next minute we're making a joke about like Georgia yelling at Marcus for sneaking in through the window. Um, so the other ships in the show, we have Mr. Uh Paul Randall, the politician. Uh immediately, immediately no, immediately no. Um, but he played I know him as Jason Street from one of the greatest shows of all time, Friday Night Lights. And then we have the simp, um, Joe that runs the cafe, and we find out that that's the whole reason why Georgia decided to move to this town because she remembered his kindness. And you think that she didn't remember who Joe was all this time, but she totally did. Um, we both decided that we were Team Joe. Do I think Joe's a little bit of a a major simp for Georgia? Of course. But we never liked Paul ever for her. And I'm very proud of us because we were correct.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yeah, I didn't I I never liked Paul.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

I think that the whole proposal scene was weird because like we could be powerful together. I'm like, he's still gonna put his career first.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

At the end of the season three when um Joe just decides, screw it, I'm in. Yeah. After all the craziness that's going on. Yeah. That was like to me, there was a little bit of like, oh, there's a red flag for Joe for the first time.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yeah. But I think that he is the one that's going to like I do.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

I think that that's going to be the one that's going to be a good thing. I think that's the end game.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

It's not Zion. I would like Zion to be happy with the woman that he is dating.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

I would like obviously I want Gil to never come on screen again. I um and he was never a part of the romance anyway, but like you and I were like, okay, this guy's always gonna choose like his career. So we saw even the proposal like was shady. Like like I said, like even that was weird. And my biggest disappointment was I do I really believed, and I think he did, that Paul actually cared about the kids, especially Austin. And then for him to basically stop choose to stop paying for the lawyer at the end of season three and to be like fine, knowing that Austin could potentially go back to Gail, who he knows is abusive because uh Georgia did come clean with all of that. I just don't see how you keep him around as a respectable character after this. I don't see how you do it.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

No, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Um, I think he's they're definitely setting him up to be the villain. I I really hope Nick comes around because he ended up, I think he ended up firing him anyway after he because I want and I'd like Nick and um Georgia. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I would like them to become friends.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

There's a lot of characters in this show.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

There's a lot of well, it's it's one of those shows that I know they have a glacial pace between seasons, but we watched immediately. And can I just say that how old is Austin supposed to be in the show? Like eight years old? Yeah, he's gonna have a five o'clock shadow by the time season four comes up.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Over three seasons, has maybe six months gone by?

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Yeah, like I think it's basically we they they come in that um right before the school year, and we finished out the school year, so about a year.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, but yeah, that kid's gonna be like shaving every day.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Like he already is taller than Jenny. He's they have those stupid fake Harry Potter glasses on this, like what, like probably a 16-year-old in real life. Like, we're going to have to have a time jump to make this plausible. But the way season three is our recast.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Is there any reason not to do a time jump at this point?

SPEAKER_00 24:10

I I really, really like jumping.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

I don't feel like they were we were sizzled. Uh well, I guess we were sizzled with her family showing up.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Yeah, because we have now her she is Georgia is basically like famous now for the murder trial, which she did get away with uh because Jenny decided to take a page from mommy's book.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

And I told you we were watching this show, and you told me you were like Austin, her other kid.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

I was like, he's gonna be the one that's mainly traumatized.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

No, it's gonna be it's gonna be Austin's not in the name. It's not Jenny, Georgia, and Austin.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

It's Jenny and Georgia. I mean Jenny is gonna be the one who's gonna have to fight and reconcile with what her actions have led her to and whether or not she wants to go down that same path or not, because she's already started it a little bit by tampering with the murder trial.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

And like threatening Cynthia.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

So yeah, we have I thought just because Austin like stabbed that kid in school, shot his dad up, but like now I'm like, oh my gosh, are we showing like that Austin has violent tendencies like his dad?

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

While still and you know not want to be that path, and whereas Jenny's having like the crafty, I don't know, the show.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Well, he's the he he is the Austin's like, you know, an 18-year-old in the body of a nine-year-old. So like I would be upset too.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Benjamin Button situation. I don't know. I I feel I'm really glad that listeners recommended the show to us, and I'm really glad that we had time to watch it because I did very much enjoy it. I think it's a classic case of from what I because I think Netflix also does this in parts one and two. Um, I do like how they do a a musical each season, and there's a that's another thing about the tone. It'll be like darkness, murder, break to do a musical number. What is going on?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

How many musicals a school year is this school getting out?

SPEAKER_00 25:46

I feel like the school is a private. Is this school a private school?

SPEAKER_01 25:50

My high school was only able to produce one terrible musical per year, and they're big.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Like, you know what? I don't think we did musicals at my own.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I thought you went to the great and powerful Parkersburg High School.

Malcom in the Middle

SPEAKER_00 26:04

I was probably this is probably gonna make me sound like an elita. I probably just didn't pay attention to what the trauma kids were doing, like if I'm being quite honest. And I feel bad for that because I love theater nerds now. So sorry. Um, so speaking of really, really old shows, um, we decided to once you've exhausted the TV options and you have to do this terrible wait for the weekly release, you gotta find something. So we went back into the vault because there is a reboot coming for Malcolm in the Middle. It's coming in April, and we decided to start Malcolm in the Middle. First off, I didn't realize it. I thought it came out like at the same time like the show The Middle did. I didn't realize that Malcolm in the Middle was on like in two the year 2000, like when we were like, you know, in high school. I didn't know the show was that old, so that caught me off guard. I knew it was a sitcom and was funny. I didn't know it was this level of unhinged, but I'm loving it. We're almost done with season two. What are your thoughts on Malcolm in the movie?

SPEAKER_01 27:02

The power of this show. So, first of all, I I I think I knew a little bit more about it than you do.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Yeah, you might have watched a little more than me. I think I'd seen my episode here and there.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

This show is powerful. And and the reason that this show is powerful, I no, not I don't know why this show is so powerful, but here's what I'm gonna say powerful. My wife, known breaking bad hater.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

I just don't like Brian. I love Brian Cranston.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

The comment during the one of the episodes of this show, and you said it, and you're not gonna deny it. You're not gonna sit here and deny that you just said you deny everything you say, so I might have to give Breaking Bad another chance.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Just because I like Brian Cranston. But I liked him going before Breaking Bad. Sure. And I still liked him. I just I I just couldn't get on board with it, but now because he's so funny, maybe maybe I maybe it's like Wuthering Heights, and I have to because I don't think I made it through three episodes of Breaking Bad, and neither did you. We were like, this show's not for us. Maybe it just I've heard that you have to get through season one, which really annoys me when I have to get through an entire season for a show to be good.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Well, I think something else you have to get through with Breaking Bad that I've heard somebody say is you need to have the you need to come to the realization that the main characters of your shows are the villain.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Well that's kind of how madman is, too.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Sure. So I think you should be able to connect with that.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

But he is he is hilarious. I've seen in this show. I have seen him in his underwear more times than I because I see he's in his underwear in one of those movies I see him. Like, why is he always in his underwear? Uh I feel like you sometimes resonate with the jokes a little more than me because you were once a teenage boy. Yeah. In a middle school. Around that time period, too. I really like Malcolm's friend Stevie. And I thought that that would annoy me as a bit, but it works.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

No, every time it shows up, they use it perfectly. Every time you come, every time Stevie comes into an episode, they use that bit perfectly, and it's excellent.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

And I've read that everybody, except for the kid that played Dewey, is coming back from the reboot. They have recast that actor, so Dewey will still be in it. But I did read that Stevie is gonna make an appearance. Like I said, we're only on season two, and I think I've read somewhere that Stevie is like the one consistent friend of Malcolm's that stays throughout um the show. But it's really funny. It's just it's some of the jokes they make, and I'm like, okay, that's really funny in today's timeline. I can't believe they got by with that calling themselves a family sitcom and they got by with that in the year 2000.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

I think they just sometimes these it threw under the radar, maybe flying under the radar, I think, a lot because like I it's a I mean they obviously were popular enough to get seven seasons, yeah. But like it's not one of those shows that the iconic shows of the early 2000s that you think of.

Scrubs

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Yeah, so I am I'm excited. I think we'll be I'm that the pace we're going, because it's kind of our filler show right now, I think we'll definitely be caught up at least I we should be. Or yeah or close by the time the um reboot drops. I don't know how many episodes they're giving us, but that comes out I know in April on Disney Plus. All right, so speaking of reboots, um, at the time I believe that you guys will be listening to this podcast, the Scrubs reboot will have aired. We have not watched it yet. I know we've talked about it on this show. Um, anything you want to say about that? Excited, apprehensive?

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Uh I'm excited. Scrubs is one of my all-timers. Like, I love Scrubs, especially the early seasons of Scrubs were like peak television. So I'm excited. Obviously, anytime you're revisiting old characters, there's a little bit of hesitation there because you know, what are they gonna do to mess it up?

Shrinking season 3

SPEAKER_00 30:28

They're gonna have to undo some of the because I think somebody said like a lot of the finale was kind of like what JD like envisioned. They might have to undo some of that. I don't I ignore the actual last season of Scrubs with like Jay Franco. That doesn't count. Um, so I know I r we haven't seen him in the uh previews yet, but I really need Neil Flynn to show up as just a cameo, maybe a patient, do something. So speaking of Scrubs, you actually um skipped on my you're not reading the show that's why.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

My phone's off. I'm not even looking at it.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Okay, so before his and hers, we were supposed to talk about shrinking, but perfect segue, since it's kind of like I think the same people that work on both shows do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Well, that's true, yeah. So that's right. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Uh so what are your thoughts on shrinking season three? Shrinking you can watch on Apple TV. Um season three is is in the is getting going.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Shrinking's one of those shows that like when we have our conversation about best thing going, I feel like it consistently is sitting down at like a number three spot. It's a great show. Um it's just an absolutely great show. It's one it's uh it's got a title card, no skip, yeah, a no-skip theme. Um it's just every time the character every character is likable, every character is got their own thing going. It's just a really well-written show. Harrison Ford, again, I think I've said this on podcast before. I it's the this might be the performance of his life.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Do you remember what he his character did in the last episode? He hummed the Indiana Jones when he walked back in the office of his paw. We had to pause the TV and we're like, do you think he that was scripted, or do you think that Harrison Ford threw that in there and they kept it?

SPEAKER_01 32:12

They probably had a bunch of like they just had him walking through that door multiple times with multiple different entrances. I would not be surprised if he threw that one in there.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

That was a wink. That was that was for the fans.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Um yeah, it's just a phenomenal show, and it's it's in a in the same lineage, which I I think the same people kind of produce it as as Ted Lasso. It feels like lineage, it has that optimism to it that you don't get a lot these days.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

But still sadness.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Um yeah, but it but it's sadness with an optimistic bend to it.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

There'll be times where Daniel and I will go like way dark and then that doesn't happen. Right, exactly. And we're like, oh thank goodness.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

It's it's a it's a if you're if you're struggling with all the television that's got these heavy topics that's like really depressing in these days, and I believe me, uh you're talking you're you're preaching to the choir. Yeah. Because it's really hard. Like, there's lots of shows I'd like to watch, but I don't know if I've got the mental fortitude to push through stuff with that like that right now. Um, this is like a breath of fresh air. This is just like, ah, I don't need to be worried. I do not need to be worried.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

And it's not the same thing like mindless comedy is gonna get you, it's still gonna be meaningful. Yes. And you're still gonna, I'm not saying that you're not gonna cry, but you're still gonna have that like, you know, like uplifting. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

And Neil Flynn did show up on one of the episodes of shrinking, the wedding episode for um Paul and his new wife, his new bride to be. So that makes me think that there's a chance that I think he's gotta be a wink and scrubs.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

They probably got a really good moment for him and they're just hiding it from us so that it's a good fun surprise.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

My only complaint about shrinking is the episodes are too short. I would like them to be a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

Uh just let them be as long as they need to be. Uh, my complaint is like, again, as with everything these days, it's like I could just use more.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

I could just use more.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Just use more.

Chit Chat

SPEAKER_00 34:12

All right. Um, anything else you want to say about shrinking? Uh no, nothing. All right. Well, speaking of also episodes just like Scrubs that we have not watched yet because we are recording this in the past. It's our future, but it's your present. Um, the Bridgerton season four part two um will have aired at the time of this listening. And I'm sure our next episode that we um come back to record on after this, we will talk about that. Um, I'm very excited for Bridgerton Hate Hate, the two-part releases. But at least if you're gonna give me a two-parter, um, when you only make me wait a month or so, it's not that bad. So I'm looking forward to that. Looking forward to have my thoughts on that. Hopefully the soundtrack will continue to be amazing because my favorite things that Bridgeton does is take those popular songs but make them sound classical. I know Bridgeton's not your thing, but you've watched season four more than you have any other season.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

This might be the one I've watched the most of. And it was fairly entertaining. I thought.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Are you looking forward to more?

SPEAKER_01 35:12

You know, honestly, it was surprising to me how entertaining it was considering you told me going in this is the Cinderella story. Yeah. And like for me, like Cinderella trope is like a big snore flesh fest. But I feel like the way they're doing it with the class consciousness of it. Yes. And that conflict is really interesting. So I think I think that that could be interesting. Um we another show that has wrapped up its season that we I don't think we've discussed on the podcast, but we have discussed off podcasts we might watch, is the Game of Thrones uh a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms show. So six episodes, it's done. Season one is done.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

I have heard no bad things.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

I heard nothing bad about it. I think I'm ready to jump back in. I like the Game of Thrones world, yes, but I was fatigued by the way the f the original series ended and the House of Dragons didn't do it for me. My understanding and from everything I've seen of this one is it's a little bit more lighthearted.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

But still sad, I think.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Still Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

I think somebody said a comment was like, it reminds you at the end, hey, this is still Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I I I think we're gonna now that it's all completely out, I think we'll probably give it that a shot at some point here too soon.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

So I'm giving that a go. Alright, anything else you're looking forward to coming up here soon?

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Yeah, I I you know, okay. The Starfleet, Star Trek Starfleet Academy is, I think, almost done. And so I do think at some point we're gonna pick up. I'm sure we'll run out of TV to watch and watch it, and I have heard okay, so I have heard one specific detail that I know that I'm not going to reveal to you on this podcast because I want it to be a surprise that I know you will love, but I have m all occasional, just consistently heard people go, on a Star Trek Reddit, by the way, it's not that bad. It could have been worse. That's like a glowing review for new Star Trek from Star Trek Fantasy.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

It's like you get on any of the Star Wars Reddits, like the prequels, the sequels, whatever, you would think that nobody likes anything. Like you would think that everybody hates Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

But Star Trek We wanna love it. We wanna love all Star Trek so badly. See, that's what that's what I think the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars fans. We Star Trek fans, we want to love all Star Trek.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

I would like to love all Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

There are Star Wars fans that are very specifically out to hate new stuff. Yeah, Acolyte.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Yeah, like I like, like, oh don't be started on that. I wish there were some that would be like, you know what, the OGs are my movies, I like them. Because if you I know that there's gonna be a generation that's gonna come around and sequels are gonna be their movies, and they're gonna, and when they get those people get louder voices, though, it's just the same. I'm a prequel girly. I told you that from I like the OGs, but I remember with the first time you had me watch them, I was like, oh, I like these way better than the other ones.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

But your your point. Your point is correct. And and and let me let me wrap this back up to a podcast that we didn't do now, but we did last week, but we just got done talking about about 45 minutes ago. Ah Wuthering Heights.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

Wuthering Heights, yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

You can appreciate the book and you can appreciate the movie.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Wuthering Heights.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

You don't have to pit them against each other and make them some comparison. Star Wars fans, you can uh love the original trilogy. I do. I'm an original trilogy person. You don't have to the the the prequel trilogies exist, but they don't ruin the three movies that are on film. And you know what? I hate the sequel trilogy, what they did there, with the exception of The Last Jedi, which I stand as a great good movie, even though it doesn't make sense in the spot that it's in, it's still a good movie. That don't they don't ri ruin the prequels and they don't ruin the the original trilogy because you can just watch them and enjoy them and forget that stuff existed.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

I don't hate the sequels, I just feel like it's clear. Uh like I've said again, we should really just one day just sit down and air on our Star Wars grievances. A Star Wars episode. My biggest complaint of the sequels is the lack of planning and direction. One of the reasons why I like the prequels, they knew they had a plan, they stuck to it, and it worked.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

We had a plan. I know it's easier to come up with a plan when you know, like, ultimately, you know Anakin has to be bad. But like I it's it's clear to me that they switched out directors and stuff for the sequels, but I can always get past that, and I can I understand why if you that was your f first like theater experience for a Star Wars, I think that's gonna be special to people you know. Well, everybody that's another reason why I like the prequel is my first theater experience for the Fringe of the Federal.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

And the Star Wars fandom, everybody's got the first movie they saw in theaters, yeah. And that one's always gonna be special. For me, it was the you know, the 1997 when they re-released um the originals, and I got to see a new hope in theaters for the first time. I'd seen it on little crappy, you know, V CRT TVs for years on VHS tape, but that was the first time really seeing it in a theater.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

All right. Well, what a podcast was this. I don't know how it's gonna sound to you guys that are listening, because I wasn't listening to the beginning of the podcast, so maybe you guys just have us on for background noise while you clean house. Um, but but that's all I've got to say.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

I think that's a good idea, though, Hope. I think you've got it. I think sometime in the near future, because there believe did you know there's a Star Wars movie coming out this year?

SPEAKER_00 40:32

The Mandalorian.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Yeah. Yeah. I have absolutely no excitement for that.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Oh, I do because I like Greg.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

But since there's a Star Wars movie coming out this year, I think you're right. It's been long enough. We've been in this podcast for almost three years now, and I think it's time we just make a Star Wars episode and lay it all out.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

I like how we like we're calling out Star Wars fans for hating everything, and then we're like, and now we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Okay. Anyways, live long and prosper.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

And may the force be with you.