Toxins, Drainage & Health Empowerment: A Journey with Dr. J Davidson, Co-Founder of Cellcore Biosciences

What if your body had a language of its own, whispering secrets about your health that could transform your life? That's precisely what our guest, Dr. J Davidson, co-founder of Cellcore Biosciences, is here to discuss. This episode takes us on a fascinating journey, exploring how Dr. Davidson’s pursuit of understanding his wife’s health struggles led him to innovative discoveries in foundational medicine and leaky blood vessel syndrome.

Buckle up as we navigate enlightening conversations about the complex world of toxins, the terrain theory, and the power of body awareness. Dr. Davidson shares his expertise on how our bodies respond to toxins differently, the crucial role of binders in detoxification, and the surprising importance of water distillation. By drawing from his life experiences and rigorous research, Dr. Davidson helps us understand how our environment, relationships, and lifestyle choices significantly impact our health.

Finally, the conversation veers towards discussing Cellcore's products, their efficacy, and their potential to change lives. We underscore the importance of constant learning, unlearning, and the power of networks for knowledge sharing and support. This episode is not just about understanding health; it's a call to action to reclaim control of our wellness. Tune in, and let's embark on this enlightening journey together.

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Transcript

Dr. Carver: 0:00

Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Root of the Matter podcast. I'm your host, dr Rachel Carver, and I am over the moon today to have our guest, dr J Davidson. As many of you who have listened to the podcast know, he's somebody I look up to, even though he may be a little younger than I am, but he has a very curious mind, just like me, and I think that's something. When I first heard him talk, he resonated with me immediately and, as many of you also know, it's his products. He's one of the co-founders of Cellcore Biosciences and it's his magical parasite products. That really took my X amount to the next level, and Dr J was kind enough to give me the platform to do my first national speaking gig. So very, very exciting to kind of spread the word about how the oral cavity has so many impacts systemically. So, dr J, why don't you just tell us a little bit about your background, how you went from being a chiropractor to co-founding this amazing company?

Dr. Davidson: 1:07

Yeah, it's great to be on here right July we joke about how our brains think so similarly so it's fun to hang out and chat and be able to hang out with your family on vacationing and things like that too. So it's great. I really appreciate you doing the podcast. My backgrounds.

Dr. Davidson: 1:29

I wanted to do sports ate, breathed, lived sports, watched sports, played sports. That was like all I wanted to do. And then I had this knee injury, dislocation of the kneecap, and then just kept happening and happening. So then I had to quit football junior high, quit basketball in 10th grade and then I had knee surgery between my 11th and 12th grade year of baseball, you know so sports all year round, basically. And then the knee took it out and when I was going through knee surgery, which was quite painful and traumatic and quite the recovery, I remember getting the knee immobilizer off after having it on for about six and a half weeks and my quad muscle was gone. It was like the same size as my calf muscle on my other leg.

Dr. Davidson: 2:19

And so I went to the PT and started getting into the health thing of you know, obviously, recovering my health, and I told the physical therapist like man, I think I want to be a physical therapist and he's like, no, you don't want to be a PT. I'm like what he's like? Be a PA or be something else, you definitely don't want to be a PT. I'm like, okay. And so that got my wheels spinning on health and then went to college and was looking at you know what type of careers are in health, and literally went to the college you know guidance counselor, and they're like, well, massage and chiropractic kind of fit in what you're seems like you're interested. I'm like, oh, let's try chiropractic, right? So I went to chiropractic school, ended up going with my wife now. So we went to school together, we went with the class together and did that and then decided, you know, want to open our practice on our own.

Dr. Davidson: 3:07

And so we opened our practice and very much structural correction based, but also a lot of lifestyle things, a lot of detox, a lot of exercise. You know very much into the high intensity, you know interval training, fitness, burst training, surge training type things, and did a lot of education, was on the radio, loved it, but then after a few years really kind of hit a wall and just wasn't happy. And I feel as if for the human being, when we have symptoms, when we have this emotion that comes up of wow, I'm not happy or I'm, you know, angry or I'm frustrated. It's like just I think God or your higher self is just trying to talk to you and say like, hey, maybe there's a little you know different path that you need to be on. Maybe you should focus on something else, maybe you're missing something right. And I was actually just getting frustrated in the chiropractic office just for not being fulfilled. And it was a really big practice, probably in the top 1% of all chiropractic offices for volume, you know, of patients, right? 650, 670 patients a week. That I would almost suggest you know by myself.

Dr. Davidson: 4:20

But then, when my daughter was born this was in 2012, my wife just didn't recover and the bottom fell out and everything just was like in chaos, was in flux. I mean, there was countless nights I don't even want to think about this because it brings me to such an emotional point still, even, you know, 11 years later. But there's so many nights not knowing if she's going to, not wanting to go to bed because I didn't know if she was going to be alive in the morning when I woke up. So it was a really dark spot. A couple months after my daughter was born, her body was just shutting down, stopped producing breast milk, and so that was just a huge shift of like, what's going on? How do we figure this out?

Dr. Davidson: 5:01

And so that's when I went into the Lyme disease world, because my wife was diagnosed with Lyme disease when she was about 7 years old. She was in a coma for about 6 weeks and had a bunch of health issues that started after that, right? So of course, her family says she's perfectly healthy until 7 and then had Lyme and then everything you know transpired and she had a couple heart surgeries, svt, superventricular attack, cardio or heart took off, sinuses scraped, you know just, uh, they diagnosed her with cancer under her arm, turned out to be benign and they removed this huge you know things, just all these weird, weird things, right? So, um, that just triggered my OCD-ness of figuring things out Like what, what am I missing? What's going on? And that, really, that was the initial impulse into the Lyme world, lyme disease.

Dr. Davidson: 5:49

And as my wife got better, uh, and recovered, then I started seeing people that were just like her story, um, because people related to her story and they're like what did you do to help your wife Because she was like so bad, and so I just pretty much mimicked what I did with her and helped others. And and then just new, you know, new challenges came about right, and always, as a practitioner, it feels like we get new challenges that get brought up so that we keep expanding and we keep growing and we keep figuring things out. So, yeah, my start, I would say, in the functional medicine world, if you will, uh, was definitely in the chronic Lyme disease and it was the school of hard knocks. So but I'm here to say my wife is, you know, she's early 40s, super healthy. My daughter, 11 years old, vibrant, you know, and I'm, we're super happy. But it was a very challenging, challenging ride, you know, journey.

Dr. Carver: 6:42

Love what you said and I think that's an important point for us all to understand. How you know, when we get to a point when we have, you know, a physical symptom because this was me, right, I was chugging along, went to dental school doing my thing, opened my practice and then, you know, all of a sudden right in quotation marks I get eczema all over my hands. When my second daughter was born, you know, same kind of timeframe, right 12 years ago Again, another connection we have, jim, the universe was conspiring at us at the same time and and so a lot of us, you know, sometimes when we get sick, we think, oh, my God, you know how unlucky I am, or whatever. But I really think, had I not gotten eczema right, I would not have gone on this journey to understand what is my you know, true path, what is my purpose here on the planet. And you know it was a struggle, it was very hard to go through it. But looking back, I'm like, and I remember the first time I ever gave a talk to people in my community. It was a group of women in business. I came home and I was like over the moon and I told my husband. I said, pete, I was like this is what I meant to do, right? I was like I'm on cloud 10. I mean, I just it was. It was like that, that force coming in me, and every time I speak I could be so exhausted and tired, but I know when I'm going to get up on that stage or talk in front of people, like I just turn on right, it's like this whole other level of energy comes over my body.

Dr. Carver: 8:07

So I think it's a good point for people to understand when something happens to us, if we get sick, what is this? Right? And I've talked to you many times on like, oh my gosh, I feel like my eczema is coming back and I've done all the things. And Jay will say to me well, what's going on in your life now? Right, what do you? What do you? And I'm like you're right, that's exactly what it is. You know, it's this emotional thing. What is my body trying to tell me? Right? And so I want people to understand that. You know, and it's horrible when we get diagnosed with things like cancer or something like that, but you'll follow a lot of people who've come out the other side and they'll say it was the best thing that ever happened to them, because it made them reexamine their life. You know and I think you know we've talked a little bit on the podcast how everything in life is energy, and our thoughts and our feelings they're putting that energy out there right. And so I think we need to be aware of that when we come sick. And obviously you know there are physical things we could do, like Dr Jay's wonderful parasite products that really got at some of the root cause of the problems going on in my liver with all the parasites that were blocking other things. But there was that other component was also at the same time doing some of that mental, emotional work.

Dr. Carver: 9:20

Well, let's talk a little bit about cell core. Everybody who listens knows I'm a big fan of these products for many reasons, but not just because the products work so well To me. I think a lot of the reason why it works so well is because you know when you guys were first designing this so Dr Todd Watts is the other co-founder there is so much good intention and energy behind the products. You know Like when they are designing these products they are literally muscle testing them to make sure they've had to throw out thousands and thousands of product because it doesn't meet their standard when it goes to mass production. So to me, I really believe that there's so much positive intention in the products that it's another reason why they work so well, because we're aligning with the energy of health and love. Right, I mean, love is the highest frequency out there and there is so much love in these people and these products. So tell us a little bit about how cell core came about.

Dr. Davidson: 10:21

It's like you're kind of bringing back some nice past trauma of throwing lots of product out, especially trauma for our CFO right the famous person.

Dr. Davidson: 10:30

But it comes back to what's the intention, right, the intention is to improve health and to get to the core issues, and if you don't have your health, you have nothing. And before even diving into the supplement realm on cell core, I just want to circle back a little bit on. Nobody can replace your own journey, meaning that it's got to be you, through your journey, to really put the pieces together. And from an energetic standpoint, you know, people are different, and a lot of times, though, the symptoms and things we feel are just signals where our body's trying to communicate to us or there's a communication happening. Right, I can walk in a room and feel what people feel. That's my energetic level, and I always thought, you know, when somebody would ask me, hey, how are you doing? But they would ask it and they're like how are you doing? You know it's like the question was like bringing me down. You know I'm like man, I and just be. You know the quick thought of I thought I was doing really well, but now I mean, maybe I'm not. And then what I've realized over the years is oh, I'm just picking up there. I'm feeling what they're feeling, right, they're not happy, they're not doing well, even though they're asking me how I am, and that's this whole empath right where you can pick up other people's energies. So it's it's everybody's got their journey, everybody's got their purpose, everybody's got the walk they have to walk on. And I feel like you hit your wall or you get, you know, ran over by a bus or punched in the face or you know, pick your analogy when you're not hearing the signals around you.

Dr. Davidson: 12:03

So for my wife, for instance, she had anxiety so bad before my daughter was born in 2012. For two years she wouldn't even go on an airplane, so she stopped going to conferences with me. If we went anywhere we would drive just because of the anxiety, just the thought of like I'm going to go on an airplane, and the anxiety that would build up. Well, clearly, right, that is not a good feeling to have, where somebody, it affects your life so badly, which, of course, we didn't hear that enough to go figure out what's the underlying cause. Then my daughter was born and then things got even worse. So it's like symptoms continually increase until you hear that, oh, maybe I need to do something about this, maybe this is a signal. So I just kind of wanted to close that loop on it.

Dr. Davidson: 12:53

But yeah, selcor, we started June of 2017, dr Todd and I and we were just friends and I was just, we just became really good friends. And then we were at a conference and my brother in law said, hey, why don't you partner with Todd and come out with some better parasite formulas? And this is just when Todd finally, after like three and a half years, got Mamosa pudica seed into a capsule where he could sell to the masses, because before it was a compound pharmacy that was like hand encapsulating. But he had already seen huge changes and I'd seen that was one of the biggest changes I'd seen in the Lyme disease world was from this Mamosa pudica seed or this, you know, heroin. And so when my brother said that, I was like, wow, that's a really good idea, I think we should. Todd said, yeah, I think that's a great idea. We partnered, starting Cell Core Bio Sciences. I just thought it was going to be kind of like this hobby and we'll come up with some parasite formulas and still do our thing. Then, obviously, god had a different plan, where it just took off and became a very large company very quickly and impacting a lot of people. That's just when I put my full-time effort into it.

Dr. Davidson: 14:10

The goal is really just how do you create something that is beneficial? Todd and I are both clinicians, just like yourself, rachel. It's just looking at what are we missing out there? There's so many promises that other companies would say, take this and take that and this fad and that fad. I was like, well, what's impactful? We're going through, like, hey, we need something clinically in this area. We'd formulate a product, we need something in this area and formulate a product. Then, next thing, you know, we had a protocol and the protocol expanded as we figured this one piece out. Then we realized, oh, we're kind of missing this thing.

Dr. Davidson: 14:54

The newest thing that we've recently figured out is this leaky blood vessel syndrome, which is just, I think, a massive breakthrough in foundational medicine and going to be for functional medicine as well, too where we go through a trauma or we go through whether it's physical, mental, emotional right, a female has a baby. It's like why do some females able to bounce back and their bodies are back right where they were before, and why other people, right through this chronic illness or through the pregnancy, labor process, or through such and such trauma, they can never bounce back? That was just one of these lingering questions I had in my head which has really led us to figure out this whole leaky blood vessel syndrome side, that once there's trauma, there's the blood vessels in our body, which cardiovascular systems extremely important. They chronically will leak until you basically close those gaps up. I was like, oh man, this is answering so many questions of the chronic candida, the fluff that people build, especially female gender, with the back of the arm it's like, oh, I'm getting fat. But you look, you're like that's not fat, that feels more like fluid and extracellular matrix than the fascia being inflamed.

Dr. Davidson: 16:13

Our purpose, always with Cell Core, is just continuing to figure out the pieces to the puzzle. When you look at a product, it's not the standard, just an herb or whatever. It's usually a mixture. We have the carbon carbons in there as well, which are basically come from fulvics and humic acid, which essentially is the best adaptogen that's out there. It helps for a product to be absorbed. It helps to shuttle it or buffer it through the stomach acid so it doesn't get chewed apart, because the stomach acid is pretty brutal when you're consuming supplements and herbs and things like that plants. So it helps to buffer, it helps the absorption and also helps to bind on to chemicals and toxins.

Dr. Davidson: 16:53

I really believe at least right now in 2023, that most of people's health issues are triggered by a toxicity, a chemical toxin, toxicant which isn't just lead from a pipe that we're drinking water, which is very impactful, but it's also all these industrial, environmental toxins that we're breathing in, that we're exposed to, that get into the water supply.

Dr. Davidson: 17:22

The food supply is big too, but I really feel like what we actually breathe in and what we drink are some of the biggest toxins. Those toxins then just decrease the body's ability to be healthy, happy and heal. Everybody in the world last few years has been worried about the boogeyman that doesn't exist in the corner, the virus, and how I'm going to catch it. Do you realize that there's over 86,000 chemicals that have been approved by the EPA, that are man-made just in America, that have never really been tested, let alone how they interact with any other chemical? We're going to say let's worry about all these bugs. It's like we're made of bugs, right, but it's only when we're exposed to a stressor or a toxin that then the bug changes because it's trying to biodegrade that poison. We think the firefighters are the cause of disease, but the firefighters just always show up at the fires because they're trying to put the fire out. We're missing what's triggering actual health issues.

Dr. Carver: 18:28

So tons of unpack in there, and so first thing I want to say is about Dr Jay mentioned foundational medicine, which may be kind of a new term. We've all heard, probably, the term functional medicine. So we have we call allopathic or traditional medicine and we have functional medicine, which is kind of like, all right, let's replace all those pharmaceuticals with supplements and maybe some lifestyle. But foundational, which Dr Jay and Dr Todd have really brought to the forefront, is even is more impactful as, to use his word, what is the cause? Right, the whole name of my podcast, the Root, matters. What is causing it? And what he just said is very important for salt and shan.

Dr. Carver: 19:10

We are all loaded with bugs, microbes, parasites, but, as Dr Jay said, it's when that toxin comes in and it changes the terrain okay. So we have germ theory, we have terrain theory, and germ theory got very popular because we could make drugs that would kill the bugs, and so that was obviously made a lot of money and seemed to be the answer there's a bug, let's kill it and then we'll be better. However, we know in modern medicine that that's not really the case, and we know you could have the flu, but your spouse doesn't get it. Well, how is that possible? If it's all about the bug and you're sharing the space all the time, then you should both get it right and you should both have the same disease. But we know that's not true, because your body is different from your spouse's body, different from your kid's body, right? So it's all about how our body, so we shouldn't be afraid of a bug. So when the next pandemic comes our way, we need to move away from fear and power ourselves with knowledge, because when we can create a healthy body, we should be able to tackle these toxins. But that's the problem. As Jay said, there are over 86,000 toxins in our body shape.

Dr. Carver: 20:25

This is what I've been talking about with gum disease. So when people have gum disease, it's not like you all of a sudden swallow these bad bugs. When you have toxins that you're eating, breathing, thinking, right, the whole terrain in your body changes. And so now, in a toxic environment, right, those bugs are now having to try to deal with these toxins. They're going to give off their own toxins and you create this, you know, kind of cyclone. So we have this idea of pleomorphism, where the nice, happy bugs, healthy bugs in your mouth. They can no longer exist in this very acidic, nutrient depleted environment. So we play a fourth into the forms that do survive in this acidic and they seem to be more toxic and they can lead to a lot of these systemic problems. So that's how we kind of have to rethink about what's happening in our body. How do we remove these toxins? How do we create more health in?

Dr. Carver: 21:18

our body, right? So we got to get at that foundation. This is what I love about cell core, because they talk about being intentionally disruptive and they are so focused on education, right? They don't just come up with these things out of nowhere. There are so much scientific basis for what I'm talking about here, but nobody knows about it. I think, what was it that Harvard study? Maybe 10, 20 years ago, right? That said, it takes 17 years from something to come out in the scientific literature for it to become part of you know, regular, everyday medicine, which is crazy, because after 17 years, it's not even relevant anymore, right? So so this is what we're talking about. We really want people to move away from being fearful and to empower yourself with the knowledge of how do we create the healthiest terrain in our body. And what's so great about this cell core is. This is what cell core is doing, right, it is taking the bodily process.

Dr. Carver: 22:14

They told me so much about so far, so much about drainage. You know, everybody knows the word detox. I'll just go do your 21 day detox and you know you'll be all peachy cream. You don't have to do it for another six months. Well, that would be great if we didn't have 86,000 chemicals environment that we're eating and breathing. You know, to know it, my children, who are raised on organic foods and all this healthy stuff. Once a year I'll run a talk screen on them and into shocking, shocking what I find in their bodies.

Dr. Carver: 22:44

I ran one on myself once. I had extremely high levels of DDT coming out in my urine. Ddt was banned three years before I was even born. Yeah, here I am, having, you know, exorbitant amounts of this toxin. So it's everywhere. Even those of us who are aware of these things and trying to live this healthy life, it's just everywhere. So that's why I'm a really big fan of cell cords binders. You know I make my kids take binders every single day because we've got to get this. Our kidneys and our liver, our lymph was not designed for this onslaught of toxins that we have in our world today. And cell cords binders. Jay talked a little bit about the carbon technology and how that's different. So maybe tell us a little bit about your binders, why it's different than, say, an activated charcoal. Tell us a little bit about carbon technology and why that's so powerful.

Dr. Davidson: 23:40

Yeah, so the humic and fulvic acid are basically selective binders. So when you think about that and this is basically literature it is through, you know, thousands of years of decay of plant matter that basically condense into these. You know molecules of humic acid and then fulvic is within that and these molecules are amazing at going into the body and donating minerals. They're amazing at going in and binding on to chemicals in the body. And the best part of this, if you think about maybe the best analogy would be if I am at a campfire and I throw a log on there and I'm creating a fire and when that fire burns, what I'm left with after the log is gone is basically just ash. Right, that's what is called activated charcoal.

Dr. Davidson: 24:33

However, I would call that more of a spent charcoal, that the energy is already expended because it created the heat. Where the fulvic and humic, the energy hasn't been expended yet, meaning that when you consume it, then there's energy for that product to actually, or for those molecules essentially, to go and take action within the body. Activated charcoal is the energy spent, so it's going to be limited on what it can actually work and get to energetic-wise and the reactions it can do, and then it's also a large chain carbon, whereas fulvic acid is a small chain carbon and the size matters. So the smaller the molecule is, the more it can get deeper down into the tissues, into the cell, into where things are at that need to be bound up.

Dr. Carver: 25:23

Basically, it's important because toxins aren't just in our gut, right, they're all over.

Dr. Davidson: 25:29

Yeah, and that is a big thing, right, activated charcoal could be fine for the GI because that's where it's going to stay, right? If somebody has a really bad leaky gut, well then maybe you get some molecules sneaking across the leaky gut and getting into some of the tissues, but they're not going to get far because they're just big inherently and they don't have the energy to bind and to hold, whereas fulvic with its size not only crosses through you know, one of our scientists had said years ago, it's just like thinking about a ghost through a wall right, just goes right through its ability basically to get inside of the cell, but it also has the energy to bind and then to leave the body. So fulvic and humic. From what we've found and obviously what I'm not even sure the number of how many people have experienced this thousands, you know, tens of thousands, whatever it is now hundreds of thousands you notice a change with it and the best part of this from a protocol standpoint is the binders can be taken with or without food and activated charcoal, which really should be just called spent carbon, right, spent charcoal that usually is empty stomach because you don't want to bind on to the good things where humic and fulvic can be taken with or without food, and you might be saying, well, isn't it better just to take it without food?

Dr. Davidson: 26:50

I think if you, you know, know where your food's coming and your water is clean, distilled, distilled water. Distillation is the only type of water I recommend to drink at this point, if you know that that's clean. Yeah, empty stomach is great, but if you're eating out at a restaurant and you'd be amazed how many you know industrial environmental toxins, pesticide, herbicide, you know residue things get into the food with all the different ingredients that are used to prepare that sometimes it's better, when you eat out, actually to take a capsule of a binder with that meal, because then if you're getting an exposure to some chemicals from that food, you'll bind onto that so you're not letting them absorb in the body. So I think if you're eating out I really believe with a meal is a good time. If you're eating what you know is prepared, you know, empty stomach is awesome.

Dr. Carver: 27:40

I'm carrying my little vial here. We're in New York and I'm like I got to take that in my purse everywhere I go, because it's true. You know, it's interesting. We were driving down to New York City yesterday and we're looking all of a sudden never seen this before the guardrails. There's just dead grass, and everything in between are all the guardrails. And then we happen to get off an exit and we see the truck coming with its two foot sprayer and we're all, like everybody hold your breath, but unbelievable. You know, right there and on the other side of the road is a big lake or some body of water, right? So why is that? And then we went a couple of miles farther and we see people with weed whackers. So we're poisoning and we're still. Then we do, and I'm feeling horrible. I just wanted to run out and give them some HMET binder on the side of the road. They're breathing in all these chemicals and they have no idea. And why is that even necessary? You know, if they're going to go back and weed whack it anyway, why are they poisoning us? And so they're spraying this? It's getting everywhere, right, it's not just staying right on that. So I mean, it was just it, you know, makes me sick and to think that we need to, we need to keep pouring this out on the environment. So again, people, we don't realize.

Dr. Carver: 28:56

I then just did a filtration and I wanted to look. You know, the big thing in the news is this PFAS, right, these plastics found in all the water. All spring water now is contaminated. So so, as Jay was saying, only like to drink distilled water, and I'm a big fan too. I bought the pure water distiller, have it on my countertop Fantastic, that's the only water I drink. But I didn't get a whole house system yet. So I was like I'm going to test our tap water. We have a filtration, you know, a very fancy one, and a structuring water and all that. And still they found I mean they tested I think it was 75 different types of this PFAS and there was one, and we have well water. So I'm like my gosh, how is this getting all the way down in the earth? But it is, and we still had one in there.

Dr. Carver: 29:40

So I mean you just can't get away from this stuff, right? And so that's why the binders. I just think everybody should be on these binders, and they are. As Jay said, you can take them with food. One of the problems with, you know, with binders you don't take away, mike, if you take medication, you can't do that, and so then people just don't do it because it's a hassle. So to have these, these pulpits, and not only do they, they bind really, and they bind much more tightly because they're so energetic but they also they're loaded with right amino acids and electrolytes too, so they're able to kind of nourish and bind at the same time. What else can do that?

Dr. Davidson: 30:18

Yeah, it's, yeah, a lot of attention gets brought into the binding, but it actually does provide amino acids. It does provide, you know, trace minerals as well in the body. So, like when clinicians are, you know, testing the products out, especially in the muscle testing arena, and they're like, oh, I'm testing that this person needs glutathione. And you're like, well, if they're taking this, you know binder that has amino acids that are precursors for glutathione, do they still need a separate glutathione product? And then when they test that, they're like, oh, no, it doesn't. I guess the carbons are enough. So a lot of times it is just it's acquiring, you know, your knowledge, so that accuracy, you know, as a clinician or as a patient like you, can figure things out as best as possible. But we're just, we're in a chemical onslaught and I know, right, I don't sell any water machines and I'd say I'd probably get the most arrows thrown at me for just recommending water distillation. And and the only reason I'm doing that is because it's so impactful. You know, when we moved to Puerto Rico, that was over five years ago, because we live there almost five years now. And now now we've we've moved off the island, but my wife got some clogged ears and we thought it was a ear infection, couldn't figure out anything natural, take care of it. Even one of my best buds, who's an emergency medical room doctor his IQ is probably 160, right and he's like, oh, you got to get her on this type of antibiotic and, and just you know, very resistant, she decided, well, let's try it, didn't touch it and it's like, okay. And then when we finally switched over our water about a year in, my daughter's tummy aches disappeared within the week and I was like, oh my gosh, I thought there were emotions and it's been the water the whole time. Within the month, my wife's ear drum started crackling and opening up. I'm like, oh my gosh, we've been drinking toxins the whole time. And you might be thinking oh Jay, how do you not filter your water? You know well, we were told that our water comes from the rainforest, so it's pure right. We're on a tropical island in the Caribbean and, mind you, we still used a burky with the black filters on top, the white ones on the bottom. We changed them. They weren't old, right. So it's like what we're sold on this bill of goods of oh, do this filtration and that will clear everything out. It's like baloney. Even RO reverse osmosis is better than nothing, but it doesn't get everything out. When you actually test, you find radioactive elements, you find other chemicals still in there, and so just having this belief of oh, my filtration takes care of everything, like you're just going to run into a wall and symptoms are going to continue to persist because you're drinking poison every time you sip on your glass of water. And everybody's water supply, like you said, dr Rachel, is different. Right, some people are well water, some people are city. Every well, every city is unique. And even when you send your water in to get tested, the biggest comprehensive test that I found is less than 150 chemicals that it'll test for, and they're not actually all chemicals. And what was that number? Right, over 86,000 different chemicals, and I'm checking for, like less than you know, 0.1%. And oh it's, it's clear, everything's good.

Dr. Davidson: 33:42

No, and why do I recommend water distillation? Because it's nature's natural method to purify the water. If you look at a lake or an ocean, the water evaporates, then it condensates into a cloud, then it precipitates. It's what we call a phase shift. It goes from liquid to basically it's gaseous form, back into a liquid. That's what water distillation is. And when you're doing a phase shift, it leaves chemicals behind. The only chemicals that will come with that phase shift are certain volatile organic compounds, or VOCs, which are easily picked up with carbon, which is why when you do water distillation, you want to make sure you're changing. This is for those that are already drinking water distillers. If you're not changing your carbon filters for crying out loud, make sure you change, whether it's a little pod or a you know, depending on the size machine. You still got to change that out because any VOCs that come up in that phase shift and come back down if you're not grabbing them in the carbon. So, but water distillation hands down. It's not the easy option.

Dr. Davidson: 34:43

But what's funny is when we were testing I was testing like when I travel a lot I know you travel as well a lot, dr Rachel I was telling Todd, dr Todd Watts, I'm like it seems like this smart water tests the best. And he just looks at me right with this little smirk because he's a brainiac. He's like you know what type of water that is? I'm like, no, what is it? He's like it's water distilled. It's distilled water. I'm like, oh, that totally makes sense. I didn't even think that they would have distilled water in a bottle. So, yeah, it's interesting as you just figure things out. You know and I don't hate on anybody Like it is what it is we all in our journey, but just be open to the possibility that everything that you're thinking and believing today may not be fully accurate and it might be holding you back.

Dr. Davidson: 35:38

It's not to doubt everything, but it's just to open up to what am I missing? And oftentimes the water supply is a big piece. Right, you can make massive changes through supplemental protocols, but if you're continually drinking poison in your water every single day, all day long, because you're a health advocate and you drink a lot of water, I'm sorry you're not going to get 100% well because you're still drinking that poison.

Dr. Carver: 36:07

Pure water the way, and I don't have any financial interest in this company either, but I think it's fabulous. You know that it's not a big you know machine. I have it on my, on my countertop and you know it takes about three hours to make almost a gallon. So it's, you know you got to plan a little bit ahead, but I bought just three glass bottles so I'm just constantly making it. I make sure my kids I mean when they're water bottles I don't want them drinking the school water, you can. Their school sits on an old airplane field.

Dr. Carver: 36:34

There's been a lot of incidences of cancer up and down the route there and I'm like you know. So with that, squirting a little minerals you know I love Selkhor's CT minerals that's another thing, you know or really lacking, because we live in a toxic world. Most of us are fairly acidic, right, and so this is another thing where the the amount of health comes into to play here. If we are very toxic and we're bodies acidic, we need minerals to help neutralize that acidity. Well, where is the vast majority of minerals in our body?

Dr. Carver: 37:04

Teeth and bones, right. So our teeth, you know we don't necessarily think of the tooth as its own organ, but it is. It's got its own blood supply, limb supply, nerve supply. Anybody has a toothache, they know there's nerves in those teeth, right. And so when we have all that, that acidity, the piratotormone will reverse the fluid flow in the teeth. So, you know, we kind of think that the tooth a lot of times is just this stable thing, but it's just like our bones, right, it is constantly remineralizing and demineralizing, depending on the environment of the body. So if we're really acidic, if we're so toxic, those minerals get leached out of our teeth. Now, the normal acids and bacteria that are present our mouth, you know, combined with whatever else is going on, they will. You know.

Dr. Carver: 37:48

That's how they become less mineralized and over the last couple of years would be crazy amount of more toxins that we've seen. I cannot tell you the amount of decay that I've seen In my once very stable population. It is just crazy these days, and especially the cavities along the gum lines where the tissue is a little less mineralized, and I've seen in dozens of patients in a matter of months they're going from hard enamel to completely blown out decay and it's like baffling to me. So I've been doing, more than ever, a lot of these toxin tests, organic acid tests. These are kind of simple urine tests where I'm looking at the mitochondria. Basically right, what does happen? Because we know mitochondria is like those little organelles that we think of, that that's what makes energy. But they're also really important for immune defense too. Right, they can't really do both and we know when there's any kind of toxins that they block that pathway. So the mitochondria can't make any right. So what is the most common symptom we all have Fatigue. Fatigue. Our body cannot process, we cannot make that energy because we have so much blocking those energy pathways. So, like in functional medicine we talk about well, let's just throw more CoQ10. Let's throw more and more amnesia. Let's throw more supplements to try to get over that. But if we actually remove the toxins, we get rid of those infections. We don't need so much supplementation, and that's what cell cords are about. How do we restore the energy levels and how do we get those mitochondria working again? It's not just by throwing supplements and drugs at it. We need to remove them because the body knows how to work. It is an amazing, amazing machine, if you want to call it that, and if we can remove those impediments it will heal itself from even the moment.

Dr. Carver: 39:33

You know, you hear about people having miraculous recoveries of all these terrible chronic things. But it's because we've gone in and the body, we've tapped into the bodies and ate wisdom right. We've removed the things that are problematic, put back what was deficient, because anytime you have toxicity you're going to also have deficiency. We talk about that a lot of the time, just like I was talking about with the teeth. We've got all these toxins. Now our body is using up all those vitamins and minerals to try to tackle, you know, to try to help the immune system get rid of these problems, and then we don't have enough to do the normal body processes. So then we have disease right. So yes, we can throw on all of the supplements and whatever we need, but we still have that underlying toxicity, right. So we've got to bind them up.

Dr. Carver: 40:22

And the other important thing I learned from cell cord was about drainage. I was starting to talk about this but I don't think I finished my thought. So, yes, we can detox, but, right, if our, our livers and our kidneys and our limbs are too clogged. Right, when I was first sick, I never sweat. I could go in the sauna for half an hour, never broke a sweat, you know I and my liver, you know, was just clogged up from lots of things, including emotion. You know, that's a big one. How many people today have fatty liver? I mean, we're even showing that children are having fatty liver. So our livers are totally overwhelmed.

Dr. Carver: 40:59

But if you try to detox and those organs of elimination are blocked, you just constantly recirculate those toxins and maybe you develop another symptom or you feel worse Talk about the curximer reaction, and so so when, with both of my patients, the first thing I want to do and I ask all the time in my dental practice, how's your poop Right? People are, like you know, a little taken aback, but I'm like I don't want to detox anything. I don't want to take out your malgums, or I don't want to. You know, do these surgeries take out your teeth if I know that you can't get rid of the toxin first? Right, so tell us a little bit about drainage and why that's so important and what you guys are working on.

Dr. Davidson: 41:40

Yeah, the drainage pathway. So my wife, when we, when she crashed and you know, of course, what do I do I start looking at my Rolodex who do I know that might know more than what we know? Right, and calling out to practitioners and you know what do you think? And we got many recommendations and it always seemed that the opposite would happen. Right, take this to sleep better, take this for more energy, and it like wouldn't sleep, be more fatigued, have a reaction. And I thought because at the time, you know, years ago, methylation was the big buzzword I'm like, oh, maybe she's just a poor methylator which people still, you know, kind of blame it on that, even today. But what we realized, I realized back then, was that her pathways to move fluids out of the body were clogged and that, just like you were saying, if I'm going to go try to kill a bug, whether it's bacteria, h pylori, or go after the Spirochee, chronic Lyme or one of its co -infections, babesia, bartonella, you know, or Lychia, etc. That in order for the body to take care of it, you kill the bug, it's got to move it out. Right, it has to clear it out. And if those pathways, the drainage pathways, are clogged up, which the colon, is a drainage pathway. The liver and its bile ducts are drainage pathway kidneys and excreting things to the urine, the skin, like you mentioned. Right, my wife didn't sweat for years. She just turned red, overheated. It's like that is one of the first indicators that your mitochondria are shutting down because you're not sweating. That's one of the clinical indications of it. So your lungs, right, breathing, snot, I mean all these are basically pathways to clear things out, the lymphatic fluids as well. And so anytime that something's clogged up and kind of the base of that drainage funnel, like you mentioned, was the colon. So that's why, if you're not pooping, at least you know minimum once a day, but one to two times a day is better. Or if you're having a lot of health issues, sometimes two to three times a day just to keep make sure things are moving out and nothing's really getting clogged up. If your, if your bowels aren't moving, it's basically backing everything up in the body, and so it's really important to distinguish the word drainage versus detox. Detox, as I'm going to bind onto something and remove it.

Dr. Davidson: 44:09

Drainage is just the normal pathways that need to move and flow in order for you to clear things out. It's kind of like thinking about oh, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna shave, right, I shaved this morning. I'm rinsing in the sink. It's like that water's gotta get out of the sink. How does it get out of the sink? Through the pipes, that's, the drainage pipes in the house. Well, in order, your body has the same thing.

Dr. Davidson: 44:29

So if you're going to go do something in your body, you got to make sure that the plumbing, the drainage pipes, are moving and flowing, because if they get clogged up at all, then you're going to have symptoms. And that's when you're like, oh, this isn't working. I'm feeling worse. It's like, wait a minute.

Dr. Davidson: 44:43

I always ask, just like you said, what's changing in your life. And right, are you pooping, are you sweating? Are you, you know, having? And just figuring out what are the missing pieces? Because oftentimes it's like, oh, you started killing parasites and now the parasites are clogging up the colon. Now you're constipated. Oh, let's just move the bowels, you know, let's take something to support the bowels to move more. Oh, now I feel better.

Dr. Davidson: 45:05

It's like, yeah, because as soon as your drainage pathways clog up, the body's giving you a signal. Right, it's talking to you. Every symptom you feel isn't oh, why me? Why do I feel like crap all the time? It's no, this is for you. We think everything is happening to us. This is actually happening for us and when we make that shift that it's happening for us, then it opens up this mind expansion of what's this trying to tell me? Maybe it's trying to tell you that your relationship isn't good. Maybe it's trying to tell you that the job you have is not your future. Maybe it's just trying to tell you, like, hey, you keep drinking poison in your water every day and you're trying to figure out why you're not losing weight, why you don't have energy, you know, et cetera. Like the body is giving us clues, we just have to hear them.

Dr. Carver: 45:54

Mom. That was so good because that was exactly the words that came to my mind when I was at the dermatologist and she gave me a third prescription cream. That was a cancer immune system altering drug, and I just said time out. And I said my body is trying to tell me something, just have to figure out what it is. That's exactly how I felt and it was, you know, again, that higher power, whatever it was, that I knew, that the drugs you know for me was just not the answer and that has led me onto this amazing pathway.

Dr. Carver: 46:25

Right, get to meet wonderful people like you and help just create this awareness. I just feel so passionate about empowering people with the knowledge take their health into their own hands. We don't have to be the victim and it is scary and it's overwhelming. And but you know, my point is there's so much information out there.

Dr. Carver: 46:45

There are people like you and me and all the other people you know I've interviewed, and all the people Jay knows that are aware of this and want to help you. But the more that you understand that you're in control of your body and your life, I think the better everything you know can be and you know. So that's what's exciting to me about learning all this and then just sharing that knowledge. So, you know, people know that there's hope, you know, and they don't have to, you know, have this weight around their shoulders with some kind of diagnosis, right and and as Jay said and I 100% believe too that I don't care what your diagnosis is you know it comes down to these toxicities you know it made me think of a study on.

Dr. Carver: 47:31

I heard Dr Zach Bush talk about this breast cancer study once and they had found this. I forget the type of bacteria, but they found this bacteria and all these women with breast cancer and said, oh, that's it, it's the bacteria.

Dr. Carver: 47:42

So if we just kill the bacteria, we'll get rid of breast cancer. But when they did a deeper dive and they looked at the quantitative, they said, hey, wait a minute, the women who actually have more of this bacteria actually have a better outcome. Right? So, again, like you were saying that bacteria, the increase is a reaction to the toxin that got into that breast tissue, right? So if wouldn't it be amazing if every doctor, every time you went for your annual physical, you had something like a toxin screen or an organic acid test? So you were actually looking for the root cause of whatever it may be right, and because we're all different, we have different environments, different, you know different people, we may manifest disease differently, but it could all come from the same source. And if we were just to look at those toxin screens every year, imagine could we not reduce this huge chronic epidemic we have today? I mean, it is just upsetting to me that here we are in 2023, we have more chronic disease. It's affecting our children, younger and younger.

Dr. Carver: 48:51

Yeah, we still just keep trying to do the same thing, right? What is that? Is that the definition of insanity? Right, expecting a different outcome? We keep doing the same thing, so we need people to be aware that we need to tap back into the innate wisdom of our bodies. And there's so much social media, there's so much out there that is trying to control our every. I mean it's scary when you know the kids they're on these devices and they have, you know, the for you page, right, so everything is tracked. You know everything. We need to start to take back. You know our own sense of self. We need to start getting back to mother nature, right, the whole, our whole bodies are out of sync with our circadian rhythms and that's leading to a lot of issues too. That's a whole other topic. But if we can just, you know, get back to ourselves, imagine.

Dr. Davidson: 49:44

Well, you see this in nature too, right? So you see our world right now and how chaotic, and you know interesting opinions people have and the beliefs, and you know that, oh my gosh you know, climate change is going to kill us all, and what the media portrays and things like that.

Dr. Davidson: 50:05

And I think about the human being, that when somebody has a heart attack, what generally happens if they make it through that, oh my gosh, I had an awakening. I need to change something, and you know the shift gears, which is always comes back to the old saying of listen to what your heart tells you. Right, or what's your heart telling you. And you know there's obviously some brain cells there that are dictating your purpose and path. But nature's doing the same thing. You're going to see this in the world as we continue that there's going to be probably more natural disasters, there's probably going to be more chaos in the world, because we're so um as a society, and this is obviously outside the realm of health, but I think it's an analogy, for health is that we're so off the beaten track and attacking each other and believing my belief is better than your belief rather than just. We're all humans and, like you, know how do we better the human race and better the world and leave this place a better place? And you know how it was when we came in that we're so much attacking each other and going after each other, that it's probably going to take multiple natural disaster type things to actually bring people together to start realizing like, hey, like you know, we have other common ground here that we need to really change humanity.

Dr. Davidson: 51:25

And I think that the human body does the same thing, like I mentioned right.

Dr. Davidson: 51:28

So oftentimes when people make a huge shift in life oh I was diagnosed with cancer, oh I was, I had a heart attack, right it's like, yeah, because you weren't hearing these signs and symptoms for years, for years, and then it manifested to a level that you would finally listen to it.

Dr. Davidson: 51:46

And so if I can give anything to listen to right now is hear even the whispers of your body, because otherwise then they're going to turn into the talking voice. And if you don't hear the talking voice, then it's going to turn into the yelling voice and it's going to turn into the you know freight train hit you action. And it's like listen now in, the better we do, the better we will. And then also, just from a worldly standpoint, like this is like a giant movie playing out like let people work through their stuff, right, you go inward, you work on healing yourself, work on being a leader within your community, within your family and bettering that around you, and if we just had people focus on that, I think we really can be the change and we wish to see Absolutely.

Dr. Carver: 52:35

Well, we're winding down. One last thing I want you to talk a little bit about in vitamin D. So I was just at a course a couple of weeks ago and they were talking about okay, well, here are the new recommendations. You know, if you're between this level and this level, you need to take this many units of vitamin D. But there's a little bit more to the story. I think you are one of the first people to really highlight this for me and it makes complete sense to me and I've seen a couple of stories. So you talked about how part of the reason why some people might have chronic low vitamin D is there could be intracellular infections that may be preventing vitamin D from being able to even attach to its receptor. It's been to me. This kind of resonated with me because I think all the parasites that I have, I couldn't. It didn't matter how much vitamin D I was taking or how much time I would spend in the sun. I could never get up until I got rid of the parasites. And this same thing happened to my hygienist, who she went on. She kind of prescribed this for herself. I introduced her to all the ideas.

Dr. Carver: 53:39

She had skin issues. She was in her sixties had skin issues her whole life, right, she did high dosing after being on some of the products for a little while, then she did par 1, 2, 3, and 4 high dosing, like four tablets and four dropperfuls four times a day for 45 days until she stopped seeing anything in her stool. She went back to the doctor and she had had autoimmune markers and she wanted to be tested again for them. And he said, no, once you have autoimmunity you have it forever, so I don't want to run it. And she just said, please, please, please, so fine. He relented and what came back? Zero. She had zero markers of autoimmunity. Her vitamin D shot up to over 60. All of her hormones were normalized and what she did was she treated the parasite. She didn't take vitamin D right, she didn't take any more supplements. She removed the infection that was preventing the body from doing what it's normally doing. So can you tell me, am I right in saying that about vitamin D, or what else do you have for us?

Dr. Davidson: 54:44

Well, immediately, and I give the listener credit. Well, you massive credit, dr Rachel, for being the difference in the world that you're making. But I give the listener credit for just hearing this out, because it's so easy for the human mind to be like what? I take vitamin D. This has got to be wrong. What are they going to say? All of a sudden, your emotions start controlling and it's like just breathe, and it's being able to take the emotion out and think about when everybody's recommending something. That's where my mind I pause, I reflect and I'm like is this right? Do we all need to be taking vitamin D? Why do we need to be taking so much? Why do we still see people with low vitamin D results?

Dr. Davidson: 55:29

And when you dig in the literature, it's obviously very biased in the assumption that, oh, is vitamin D doing something or not. When I just step back even further and it's like how do you get vitamin D? Well, you get it from sunlight. This is just the big conundrum I have with dermatology world of like stay out of the sun and I'll be like somehow that doesn't make sense to me because people feel so good when they're in the sun, but you get it basically by absorbing UVB rays that then goes through a conversion process to basically your body manufacturers or makes vitamin D, which is really a hormone. You go inactive to active, and so, yeah, you can supplement it, but if you're supplementing it and stop, what's going to happen to your levels? Oftentimes they drop.

Dr. Davidson: 56:18

So my question, as I looked at the literature and just did a deep dive this was a couple of years ago that you're referencing that we presented to practitioners kind of blowing up, blowing a disruptive topic out. It's like, just because the literature says the higher vitamin D level somebody has, the healthier they are, doesn't mean it means for somebody to actually take vitamin D. Necessarily, though, because I think about, yeah, higher vitamin D, higher health, but does that mean that I supplement with it? Or am I actually looking at what's interfering with my body to make its own vitamin D? And for me, yes, I'm an owner of a supplement company, so this is super shocking, right? I would say I would rather my body naturally make it than for me to supplement with it. Like, how mind-blowing is that? Right? Because I know that if my body's making it, it's probably doing a whole lot of other stuff that my body needs to do that we haven't figured out in science, and a lot of times that conversion happens in the liver and one of the biggest things I've seen as a clinician is people have massive liver dysfunction. Liver does so many different metabolic processes phase one, phase two, phase three, detox. It does hormone. You know it's big with hormones in the body and yet we're living in a toxic soup that's stressing this organ out. That then's preventing vitamin D and my solution is to give more vitamin D. No, my solution is to get to the source, just like you said, foundational medicine is getting to the root cause, just like your podcast title is about.

Dr. Davidson: 57:53

I look at functional medicine as it's customizing, which I'm a huge fan of, but what I found is that a lot of people that come in have the same core issues, which are what I would consider foundational. You have to clear up the toxins, you have to clear out the parasites, you have to restore mitochondria, you have to open up drainage pathways and then, as I go through that now, I want to get very granularized and customized for that person. So I think foundational medicine comes first.

Dr. Davidson: 58:26

Functional medicine comes after foundational medicine and I know there'll be disagreements from that, but it's basically clear the static out first the big things that are causing massive issues, and then let's run more granularized. Let's look at hormones and, you know, customize from there. Because if you run the hormone thing right away and you haven't done any detox, you haven't done any mitochondrial help, you haven't, you know, open up drainage pathways, you haven't cleared parasites out, it's like, well, I mean, we got to get to that stuff, like that's the core. You get to the core, then the a lot of other things will actually disappear the secondary, tertiary symptoms, and then you're left with some of the other core things for that individual. That's where we really, you know, get into customization.

Dr. Carver: 59:10

That's the key here we started talking. Jay was talking about his wife and the Lyme and some of you may wonder oh well, how do we cure that? And we know the most successful clinicians are doing just what Dr Jay said. It's that foundational piece. So again, it doesn't matter if you have Lyme or cancer or parasites or eczema or whatever it is you've got to get at that foundational piece, the liver, and the liver so key.

Dr. Carver: 59:35

Unfortunately, today we have what Two enzymes that we check liver function with, which is ridiculous, right? Because unless you have an acute infection or your liver is, you know, functioning less than 10%, those enzymes may not show as a problem. And we also know, like we think about diabetes, we're always focused on the pancreas, but really the liver helps to support that pancreas. So if you've got diabetes you've got to live a problem. The whole insulin regulation that really you know. Gallbladder, right, everybody who's getting their gallbladder out left and right. Okay, you've taken away the symptom, maybe, but you didn't fix the problem which started in the liver. So you know, excuse me, don't have a gallbladder anymore, but you haven't got to the foundation of the problem. So again, no matter what your diagnosis is, we've got to start at that foundation of liver has got to be functioning. The kidney has got to be excreting the bowels. You know how many people walk around like, yeah, I go to the bathroom, you know, I don't know once and twice a week. Yikes, where do you think all of that waste is going? Right, it's really, really problematic. So if you're dealing with chronic Lyon, I know the first thing everybody wants to do is throw antibiotics at it. But, you know, in my estimation, the more I experience, you know, life, I think a lot of us have been exposed, whether or not we've been bit by a tick. I mean, these Lyon and co-infections, I think, are in mosquitoes. Again, they're everywhere.

Dr. Carver: 1:01:00

So, again, depending on the body, the state of the body is, are you going to manifest these? Right, like your wife? She had whisperings before, you know, and then had the baby, which is a major, you know, the body, the woman's body, goes through a lot. I mean, that's when I, you know, that's when a lot of women develop auto-immunities right After giving birth. We have just literally sucked the life out of us and in our society we don't have that fourth trimester where we rebuild the women's body. I mean, I was back to work in four weeks. I'm not in my body. Are you kidding me? I mean I had another daughter in practice, yeah, I mean, you know. So that's the problem. Just building back that terrain. That is how we get rid, you know, of these major chronic problems.

Dr. Davidson: 1:01:46

Yeah, it's going back to what you said about you know, how do you know there's dysfunction in the liver. If we assume that if I run a lab test, that the lab test will show me if there's dysfunction Right there, I have a foundational belief in the lab test for everything. When clinically I know that that's not the end, all I mean, you look in the literature and think, oh, if I have let's say I have lymph, my lymph fluids are backed up, Well then I must be puffy, I must have what's called edema right, or you can like push in and see the fluid kind of come back slowly. Well, in the literature it says that in order for edema to be there, that the dysfunction of the lymphatic has to be at least 50% or greater. So if I'm running a lab test and everything looks fine, it doesn't mean everything's fine, it's just meaning that that's not picking something up. And so it's just getting back to a, really just going back to the core beliefs of everything and just reassessing, making sure we're not missing something.

Dr. Davidson: 1:02:57

Because when somebody is saying, wow, I'm dealing with such massive health issues and I've tried everything, it's like no, you haven't. Because if you've tried everything, then guess what you would have, You'd have the result you've been waiting for, right? So clearly you're missing something. But your own mind is already saying I've tried everything, which means you're ruling everything out. It's like no, no, no. Go back to the foundation. Is it your drinking water? Is it your house? Is it your relationship? Is it your stress level? Is it a toxin? Right, we need to reassess all these things.

Dr. Davidson: 1:03:32

Just because somebody said, you know, out of their own ignorance, oh, you're fine, everything looks good and you know something's not right, Great. Then on to the next person Like, clearly they're not going to be able to go be able to help you. So I just want to encourage you. If you're struggling, if you're, you know, hitting walls, like you're exactly where you need to be. Now, just listen to what your body's been telling you, because that's where the breakthrough is going to be. And then, as you get well, then you can be the change you wish to see in your family. Because if we have our health, the world's different. You see, we make different choices. We do things that are more fulfilling, we do things that are more beneficial for the legacy of our kids, of our grandkids, of our community. And when you lose your health. You see people make very irrational emotional things because they're not well.

Dr. Carver: 1:04:29

That's a good point too. Sometimes people look towards people like us health coaches, doctors, alternative cares because they don't know all this information. But remember that nobody can make you well. You can make it well. There are people who can help you along the journey People like me and DiverJ and others. We can help you and create awareness around things, but it's really if you don't believe you're going to get well, you won't get well. So that belief, but you are the only one. People come to me and they expect me to fix them. I know we have to have a bigger conversation and I may not be able to work with that person because you first have to know that you can get well and you will. But you have to have that. It has to start with that belief. So, all right, we could go on and on forever and ever. You know, have to have you back on. We'll talk about more other exciting things, but thank you so much for your time.

Dr. Carver: 1:05:25

Those of you who know with the Cell Core, you can go to cellcorecom. You can. There are providers all over the country, internationally now too, right, so there's opportunity to hook up with someone to look at the site. There are so much all Cell Cores based on is science. These are not just whims made up by Dr J and Dr Todd. So much clinical evidence and even in the short years they've been in business, I mean it has grown like gangbusters, because those of us who've been using these products know how well they work, know how much we've made major impacts on our patient life and hopefully in the world, little by little. So definitely check that out. You can find me, dr J is if anybody wanted to contact you. I know you're doing kind of your own thing. Where would you direct people to learn more about these kind of things?

Dr. Davidson: 1:06:14

Well, if you're a practitioner, I would recommend just get registered as a Cell Core Cellcorecom. Just get registered as a practitioner, because our education in the back end will help to go to the next level. If you're a member of the public or patient, I would just recommend reaching out to somebody like yourself that knows the products, that can help guide you along the journey. Or if there's a practitioner in your area, or even a practitioner you already see that doesn't use Cellcore, you know, suggest that they learn about it, because it's just going to take some time. I mean, even last year, about a little less than a year and a half ago, it came out that all the research on the amyloid plaque was basically fraud and made up, and we spent billions of dollars on Parkinson's and dementia and Alzheimer's and all this stuff, believing in the amyloid plaque. It also came out that the SSRIs you know, serotonin for depression was completely, you know, fabricated as well too. And it's like, you still see today people are basing, you know, oh, I have Alzheimer's or dementia. Well, they're still basing their thing on the amyloid plaque, which has already been shown to be a fraud.

Dr. Davidson: 1:07:28

And it's like how much longer is that going to continue? You said it takes 16, 17 years for research to actually make it into clinical practice. Well, it's like, how do we speed that up? I don't want to be the guinea pig doing the wrong thing for 16, 17 years, like I want to know right away. So you know, getting engaged with cell core will help, you know, speed it up to get people on the right path. But it also takes dropping the ego and being able to unlearn so that you can relearn, because if you already feel like you know everything, then you know it's really hard to you know, continue to learn because you're stuck with some foundations that need to be unlearned first.

Dr. Carver: 1:08:06

And I think that's important for us as practitioners to know. You know, we're doing the best we can with the knowledge we know, but there's always more, there's always something, and so you know, I'm not apologized to my patient that's saying, hey, I just learned this, you know what I thought before, you know, may not been as, but now I know this and I think people appreciate that because I'm at that forefront, I want to do.

Dr. Carver: 1:08:28

I want to come from love and I want to do the best that I can from my patient. And that's a status quo, because where status quo is terrible, you know, I want to be exceptional. I want to give my patients the exceptional, the hope and everything that they want so badly. And this is what I love about Silk Road. They are reading that research. A lot of us. We don't have time, you know, to read that, so you know they're doing all the good work. And then we just have to go and watch their webinars and go to their amazing conferences and, you know, just keep in touch and create.

Dr. Carver: 1:08:58

I've created so many networks of amazing people. That's why I'm able to bring you this great podcast, because I've met all of these amazing people and not everybody can know everything about everything, right? So creating this network where everybody has different areas of expertise, you know it takes a village and I'm really proud to be part of your village day. So I want to thank you so much, you and Todd, for creating this amazing community, and I just want to keep sharing your love, keep sharing your wisdom, and we'll be there right along with you, supporting you.

Dr. Davidson: 1:09:29

Thank you so much. I truly appreciate for the listener. Dr Rachel is there. Anytime I have a question, something dental, teeth, mouth I'm like, let me, let me text, let me let me call Rachel, let me see what she says. So thankfully you've been there for me and so many other people. So, yeah, just really appreciate it and hope the listener got a lot of value today.

Dr. Carver: 1:09:51

Well, thank you everybody for listening and I hope you have a great day.