The Danger of Complacency: Why You’re Doing Well… But Not Growing with Chris Robinson

Keep The Change

Keep The Change
The Danger of Complacency: Why You’re Doing Well… But Not Growing with Chris Robinson
Jun 06, 2025
Bart Nollenberger

In this episode, my guest is Chris Robinson, Executive Vice President at Maxwell Leadership — and one of the most purpose-driven leaders I know.

We talk about something that doesn’t get talked about enough: what happens when you’re doing “well enough,” but deep down you know you’ve stopped growing.

Chris shares the real story behind his new book From Drift to Drive, and we break down the seven steps he uses (and teaches others) to get clear, take action, and shake off the weight of complacency — especially the kind that sneaks in when life is comfortable.

We get into:

  • What clarity really looks like in your life and work
  • Why “being busy” isn’t the same as moving forward
  • How to gather and filter the right information to avoid drowning in content
  • The role of mentors and why your circle can either build you up or hold you back
  • How to take consistent action, even when it’s messy or uncertain
  • Why evluation is the step most people skip — and what that’s costing them

Chris also opens up about his personal turning point — the moment that changed the trajectory of his life — and how it shaped the way he shows up today as a husband, father of six, and leader of thousands.

Whether you’re leading a business, a family, or just trying to get yourself to the next level… this one will challenge you, encourage you, and give you tools you can actually use.

Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast players!

Connect with Chris Robinson

Connect with Bart Nollenberger: