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From Birmingham to Ministry: Lisa Faulkner's Remarkable Communications Journey
Lisa Faulkner's remarkable journey from communications professional to ministry leader reveals how seemingly disconnected career paths often lead us exactly where we're meant to be. With over three decades of experience under the communications umbrella, Lisa shares how an unexpected detour from broadcasting to writing human interest stories set the foundation for her future calling.
The conversation traces Lisa's professional evolution through major media organizations including the Birmingham News, WTTO television, CNN, InTouch Ministries with Charles Stanley, and Creflo Dollar Ministries before establishing her own consultancy. Throughout these transitions, Lisa discovered how God was preparing her for ministry work through every experience – a testament to her belief that "no knowledge is wasted."
Lisa offers profound insights for navigating today's rapidly changing digital landscape while maintaining authenticity. "You stay true to yourself. You stay you first," she advises, explaining that while tools and platforms constantly evolve, your core brand and voice should remain consistent. This wisdom extends to her approach with clients, where understanding their unique voice and audience needs creates more effective, customized communication strategies.
The conversation takes a deeply personal turn when Lisa discusses her devotional book "Minutes with the Master," which chronicles pivotal moments where God intervened throughout her life. From childhood trauma to professional challenges, Lisa shares these stories not for sensationalism but to help readers recognize they're not alone in their struggles. Her vulnerability in sharing difficult experiences, including being held at gunpoint by her father as a child, demonstrates how faith can transform even our darkest moments into sources of healing for others.
Whether you're navigating career transitions, seeking purpose in your professional journey, or looking for inspiration in your faith walk, Lisa's story offers powerful testimony to how God weaves our experiences together for greater purpose. Listen now to discover how embracing change while staying true to yourself leads to authentic living and meaningful impact.
Good evening everyone. It's Carolyn Coleman and welcome to Gentry's Journey. Our honored guest today is Ms Lisa Faulkner. She has an MA, but before we get started, let's do our scripture. Above all, clothe yourself with love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. That comes from Colossians 3, 14. So, miss Lisa, you are our honored guest today and you are a media and marketing specialist and you're an author correct.
Speaker 2:That is correct Okay.
Speaker 1:Thank you, author that is correct, okay, thank you Well, tell the audience something about you, what you would like for them to know at this point, before we start with our questions.
Speaker 2:Wow. Well, since you start there with the media background, I am a communications professional. I've been under the umbrella of communications probably more than 30 years now. That's where I got my undergrad from the University of Alabama, here at Birmingham, in communications with a specialization in broadcasting. But one of my professors thought that I wrote so well, I should try my hand at a writing internship. Ironically, I was getting my degree in broadcasting but he thought that I should try my hand at writing. So I ended up with a paid internship at the Birmingham News, no less, and I had an internship in the human interest section of the paper. So I take none of this by coincidence, because that sparked or kind of ignited all of my gifts and talents. And you know my path to human interests and how my communications endeavors and all of that was going to ultimately unfold Writing for human interests and producing for human interest efforts ultimately became most of my career efforts. So I worked there in the human interest section of the paper and they ended up offering me my own section, my own beat, if I stayed on there after my internship. And you know, little did my mother and I know at that time that you know success comes through experience. We just thought if I got my four-year degree I was automatically supposed to become an overnight success. But she told me that she didn't send me to college to make that kind of money.
Speaker 2:So I left the Birmingham News and went on to pursue a career in broadcasting. But I did ultimately get a job at WTTO, the television station here in Birmingham, as a producer. I worked there five years and I loved my work there, writing and producing, but ultimately went on, somehow found my way over to Georgia and worked there in Georgia. I worked there in Georgia, did a brief stint at CNN and you know, I thought if I went to one of the biggest communication houses in America probably in the world I would find my way into a full time role. Because I went to CNN as a temporary, I started at Turner Temps and I found my way into a full-time role. But it didn't turn out that way. I've been working there temporary for a year. I still hadn't landed anything full-time.
Speaker 2:So it turned out that the Lord was leading me to ministry. I ended up working at InTouch Ministries with Charles Stanley and his ministry, his group. There were more than 10 years, started in his broadcast group as a producer and worked there for in between his broadcast and marketing groups for 10 years. And then I left there and started my own consultancy at Penn Star Communications, which I still have now, and then left there.
Speaker 2:While I was working there, did a contract for Creflo and Taffy Dollar. After I did a contract for them for about three months, they brought me on full time. For about three months they brought me on full time and I worked for them as a senior broadcaster, writing and producing, for about five years before I made my way back here to Birmingham. And so, yeah, so since I've been back here to Birmingham, that's when I penned my first devotional, became an author and a minister, studied to become a minister here at my church here. So I gave you the fast and furious route to how you started me being me being an author and a media specialist. Did you get it all? I think I did specialists.
Speaker 1:Did you get it all? I think I did. I um, you know, we always start off on one path, but we never know where we're really supposed to be sometimes you know you get a background and then it just kind of blossoms into much more your experience with, with InTouch, and then with the Dollars Pastor Creflo and his wife Taffy Dollar. And then you did a stand at CNN and I was like I know all those.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm familiar with all those. I have a friend, she likesN and I like CNN. I don't know, you know, but you know, we all have our different tastes.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that I'm sure you never expected, especially after leaving Birmingham. Working for the Birmingham News was a big deal it was. Working for the Birmingham News was a big deal it was.
Speaker 2:You know, I look back at all those roles that I gave you and I could have spent my career at all of those places. I could still be at all. You know, I feel like I was so honored and blessed to be at each one of those places I gave you. I could have spent like my entire career at each one, at each one of them. So you're right, that was a big deal. I get that.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I get that. I have worked at several hospitals and I have enjoyed the majority of them, but you know, it's that path, that that unknown path to us. Yes, we're just walking.
Speaker 2:We're just walking you know, it's that path, that, that unknown path to us.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're just walking. We're just walking, you know. And at the time you know, sure, you know I'm walking by faith. You know I won't let people. You know. When God whispers in your ear and you're like, uh, caroline, what are you, what are your plans? I said I don't know. I said, but I'm staying on this path and I'm going to see where it leads.
Speaker 1:And if it's not, if it doesn't seem favorable, then I have a plan B and one of the docs asked me because, right when I was graduating from RN school and he knew me as an LPN because I worked on the floor that the majority of his patients were on and he stopped me. He said I hear we have too many nurses. I said, yeah, that's what they say. He said what are you going to do? What are your plans? I said, well, when I graduate, if nothing opens up, I'm going to Cali. I'm going to California or I'm going to Atlanta. He's a hot Atlanta because he's a Georgia. He was a Georgia Bulldog fan, he was from Georgia. I am not going to sit on this degree and not let it work for me, you know.
Speaker 1:So you have to be willing to make a move. Yes, so, and you were willing to make a move, you know to further your career. You have to kind of take a chance on yourself. You have to believe enough in yourself to know this has got to happen. Something has got to work out. So I, I get that, you know.
Speaker 1:And well, all people who stay in one place for 35 years yes, yes yes, yeah, you know, but me always get a little itch when it's just about time for me to move or when something is about to happen, and I'd be like I didn't realize it at the time. But that was a nudge from the Lord to say get ready, Because one time I went again.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah Again. So I said, let your will be done and you know that's just my conversation with him. I you know who's going to hear what I have to say a lot of time, but it's not for everyone, it's not for everyone.
Speaker 2:It's not.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, so you have to do what's best for you and where God leads you, because it's always a better place. It may you don't know how long it's going to last, but it's always some betterment in it.
Speaker 2:That's right. I agree with that. I agree that God doesn't waste anything. He uses all of our experiences and he's always pushing and moving us to better. And we will see it that way and allow him to just the way you described it.
Speaker 1:I totally agree. I couldn't have phrased it anymore, but I think I say something about no knowledge is wasted.
Speaker 2:I mean a lot of young people.
Speaker 1:No knowledge is wasted. You know, I don't care if you've worked fast food and now you want to be a professional. People are people. So you do have this air of customer service skills, whether you want to call it customer service or not? Because you're going to be in a row, especially if you're going to be in healthcare. That's your customer. That's customer service.
Speaker 1:And they'd be like oh, I never thought of it that way. I said that's what I'm here for, that's what I'm here to help you think that way. I said that's what I'm here for, that's what I need to help you think that way. So you know, don't discount really anything. Everything might not be the best experience, but it's for your betterment.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:It's for your betterment Now when it comes to your media and marketing and what you're seeing now as opposed to what you saw, let's say, about five years ago. What are your thoughts on on that and the trends that are being set?
Speaker 2:well, it's all digitally oriented now, in my opinion, digitally oriented and stream based. And you know it's all cloud oriented, so you have to be prepared for that. And then we know that there is an AI generation on the rise. So, with that digital, yeah, and cloud based, you just have to go with the cloud. It's not the glory cloud that we're following, but it is a cloud that we need to follow. So it's not a matter of getting left behind or AI taking the jobs. It's a matter of the new workspace Not necessarily that AI will take over, but people who understand how to make use of AI. And then, of course, digital is more influential now than just broadcast, than the broadcast space. But the digital space is more influential than the broadcast space because digital can just is, is, is just more, is faster and can be changed even faster. The digital and the stream space changes even faster than the broadcast space.
Speaker 1:And how do you stay abreast with all of this? Because, in my humble opinion, it's like overnight, it's not like three. This you know four years ago that it is like last year we were doing it this way, now we're. How do you stay on top of it without getting overloaded? Uh, with the changes that are taking place, sure, sure well, you stay true to yourself.
Speaker 2:You stay you first, you, you, you walk into. You always stay true to your brand, who you are, and you always go back to that, your core, and never let anything change that. So that's why you brand is so important. So those traditional things that we walked into this space with, they should never change and your brand and who you are should never change. So the tools change, what we bring into our space, those things change, those things help, those things complement us, like a new dress or a new lipstick for a lady or you know. Those things change, but who we are, they never change. Our brand does not change. So I am a writer, a producer, a storyteller. Those things about me have never changed. So I've always I've just brought in the new things to those things to complement those things, to complement my writing, to complement my producing, to compliment my storytelling. That's how I stay current.
Speaker 1:That's great yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't change who you are, just bring those things in to compliment who you are.
Speaker 1:And that makes sense, Like going from cooking on the stove to microwave. You've got to balance it.
Speaker 2:You got it, it's not for everything.
Speaker 1:You can't cook everything in the microwave, but you need to learn how to utilize it. So it's helping you and helping you.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, when you're working on a particular project, do you search for a target audience?
Speaker 2:Sure, because there's going to be a target audience for just about every project. You know some people would like to say, well, I'm for everyone. Well, no, you're probably not. You're thinking that's going to get you more banged for your buck, or you're going to draw more, but you're probably not for everyone. So it is always good to learn who your target audience is, and then you cannot spin your wheels that way and you can hone in on what makes sense and you can talk to the right people and you can talk appropriately to the right people.
Speaker 1:That makes sense, because no one is for everyone. That is not a thing. That is true, because personalities and everyone can see what you see.
Speaker 2:Right, and that's why it's so important.
Speaker 2:No, go ahead, yep, and that's why it's so important.
Speaker 2:When I start to deal with a client, it's so important for me to study that client and learn who they are and learn their voice, learn their tone, learn their brand, learn their approach, so that I can talk to their audience appropriately. So I, you know I can go in with a whole host of ideas and I can go in with the whole Lisa thing, but will that make sense for you? You know, you know, you know what I'm saying, but will that make sense for you know, you know, you know what I'm saying, but will that make sense for me? Will that make sense for Carolyn If I come in and tell her all this great stuff that Lisa brings to the table?
Speaker 2:Some of it will, but it is better if I come in and learn, carolyn, and learn what your needs and learn what has worked for you and what has not, and learn what your goals are and learn, and then, once I know what your needs are and where you're trying to go and what has worked for you and what has not, then I can look at the big picture and I can plot a foundation and then develop a strategy you're basically customizing it to that individual Exactly, or?
Speaker 2:to their brain Exactly If I don't do that, you're going to leave me. If I don't date you properly, you're going to leave me eventually.
Speaker 1:And that makes sense. And when you say your voice, I remember I was writing a piece and someone asked me well, do you mind changing this, do you mind changing that? And so after a while I said you know, that's no longer my voice. And they were like it's not me, that's not how I speak, that is not who I am, so I can't. In fact I'm going back to where it started. Oh, those were just suggestions. No, they weren't just suggestions. That's what you wanted me to say. That's right. That just suggestions. That's what you wanted me to say. That's right. That's right, that's what you wanted me to say, and you know. And so I had to kind of walk away from it for a minute and come back to you know, to let them know that's not my voice.
Speaker 1:So you are correct when you said I need to know your voice and that is so important because if you change it to your voice or someone else's voice, that's what people are going to hear, that that's right voice.
Speaker 2:So you will be, like lack of better term, lost in the cloud exactly, exactly, and it's so good that you knew when to step off or when to step away and, kind of, you know, draw that line. Of course we want to go in and please. You know where pleasing makes sense. Yes, we want, yeah, we want to do that, especially if we're being paid for it, especially, you know, whatever the relationship is. Yeah, we want to please, we're pleasing makes sense, but it's good to know where to draw the line.
Speaker 1:It is, and that's why I had to walk away, because I wanted to phrase it to her without you know it being hurtful, exactly Because it was a project that we were, you know, working on. But if you want it to be my piece, then it has to be speak to me, and she received that. She received it very well and I was thankful for it, you know, but in my, in the back of my head, I always tell people it has to be you, authentically you, because people know when it is not authentic.
Speaker 2:That's right, people are smart.
Speaker 1:People are smart. People are smart Even when you don't think they are.
Speaker 2:They are smart Even when they don't say anything.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true, that's very true. But if you really want your voice heard, you have to at some point in time speak up and, like I said, you have to just kind of mull it over in your head, or we need to have a talk. Can I call you tomorrow Something of that nature, so people will know how you feel.
Speaker 1:And it usually turns out okay, and sometimes they're like thank you, I didn't think about that part, because some people are just so task oriented, they just want to get the task done, yeah yeah. When I worked in a certain industry or a certain department, I would be a little annoyed. I said we're treating these people like they're on a conveyor belt and all I can imagine is Lucy and Elton eating those chocolates in that room. This is not the way it's supposed to be. And no one got my humor but me. But I was very serious. You have to treat people on an individual basis.
Speaker 2:Yes, the work has to be done.
Speaker 1:And you know there is sometimes a press of time, that it has to be done, but we still need to take the time. Hello, how you doing? You know what are you here for? How can I help you? You still have to put that human touch in it.
Speaker 2:Yep, we will be like Lucy and Elfa on the conveyor belt, do you have a preference on your social media platforms that you like to work with. I work on several of them, just because they are all different. I use Facebook, instagram, tiktok, linkedin, pinterest, twitter. Yeah, I use, and I think that's all of them, but I use several of them just because they're all different. I would say, yeah, I would say the only one that I and threads. I would say the only one that I don't use for a particular reason now is just would be Twitter and threads. Those are the only two I don't use for a particular reason, but the other, the others, I use because because of their brand, because of what they offer, sure, I can get that.
Speaker 1:I can get that Now when it comes to managing a crisis or a challenge, when it comes to marketing. Can you think of a time when you had to either backtrack, go forward, stop to get that worked out.
Speaker 2:It's never good to backtrack. It's good to get ahead of a crisis if you can, that's true so that you can manage the narrative, so that you can tell the story. But, yeah, there have been times that I've had to backtrack debacle, where we had to backtrack and tell a new narrative to redirect people's thoughts, you know, and that's pretty much all that you have to do. Sometimes, when there's been a crisis, you just kind of have to tell a new story and you have to continue to tell it so that they forget about the problem that that's being, you know, broadcast at the current time. So I'll just say it that way, without getting into no no, no, no, I don't want you to get into anything.
Speaker 1:That's um, you know that you're not comfortable with and, um, I get what you're saying. It's best to get ahead of it than to catch it by the tail, but sometimes you can't do those type of things. Yes, so you have to refocus your thought process. That's what I'm trying to get into. That's right.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I'm yes, and I'm thinking of PR, I'm thinking of PR, I'm thinking of PR. Okay, yeah, you may be thinking of so for PR, that's what you want to do. So for producing and or marketing, it's a little bit different. So for producing and or storytelling, it's a little bit different. So I don't know which lines you were talking with.
Speaker 1:Tell me specifically maybe what you're thinking or asking about. Let's say you're working on a project. You think you're halfway done because I've been there and your manager comes in and says scrap the whole thing. We're like, all this work, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh God, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That type of crisis because you're still on a timeline.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm sorry, no problem, I may not have phrased it correctly.
Speaker 1:But yes, that type oh yeah it correctly.
Speaker 2:But, yes, that type, oh, yeah, no, yeah, that happens, all that used to happen all the time. And um, uh, in the in the field of producing, and that just happens because producing is so organic and it's so live that it can. Things can just change, um, as it's happening, and you have so many players, so many dynamics in it, and so it's really good to be flexible in that field. And that's what I just learned to be very pliable, very flexible, as I was growing and becoming the producer. I was going to be in that field and so that became a part of, that, has become a part of my storytelling process.
Speaker 2:Even when I even when I glean and when I gather and research and get all of my information and outline, lay it all out, and I think I know the story I'm going to tell and I go in and I gather all my information, I then am still prepared to leave all of that behind if something new comes around, if someone, a very important stakeholder or someone above me or something, or someone comes in the door and says, oh, this has changed, this just came in.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're not going to believe this, this, anything can happen in the world of, in the world of storytelling and the world of producing, anything can happen. So you just have to be prepared to lay all of that down and figure out how are you going to change this story. And not only do you have to figure out how are you going to change this story, you have to figure out how are you going to make it fit into the timeline story. You have to figure out how you're going to make it fit into the timeline, into the timeline that you have to deliver it in. So, yes, um, and so it's just a, it's just a mind, it's just a, a mind, um, step that you have to, you know, put yourself in that you're going to be able to do it, and I've done it a million times yeah okay, okay, because, um, there's no perfect way to get some things done because, something invariably is going to jump up.
Speaker 2:It does it does, especially in the world of communication, especially in the world of communication, especially in the world of producing, really, really in the world of producing, and with someone like me who's really I thrive on organization, I thrive on clarity and closure. I mean, once I get clear on a thing and once you tell me that's the way it's going and we're closing on it, I really want that to stay buttoned up. I really want that to stay buttoned up. I really want that to be true. But it may not be that way. We may have to open that up again and change it, you know. So I really had to get accustomed to change in the field of communications, in the field of media, in the field of marketing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can get that because I can see that constant change. And what do we say? One thing that's constant, that is change. That is correct. And in my humble opinion, over the last five to 10 years things change rapidly, more rapidly than they did in the past, and I think because it is the influx of medias and different type medias and media organizations. You're listening to so many different voices, you know out of your ear, into your ear gates, and you're singing so much and you're like you know where do we stop? Where do we stop?
Speaker 2:Well, we don't get on board.
Speaker 1:Are we getting off? That's one thing, especially when it comes to the world of work. And that's what you do when you're trying to pull together some educational materials, and everyone has their own ideas. Sure, you give people your objectives, but there's always someone saying I don't know, maybe we need to do it this way, and that's you know, coming together as a team so that we can come up with that finished product that we're all pleased with and that it is saying what we need it to say.
Speaker 2:I love that. Yeah, that's the end goal. Yeah, that is really the end goal. You know, I never really quite like to end a project without asking myself and asking the team um, is there any way we can make this better? Have we done, have we done our best here? Um, yeah, that's, that's it. That's it, and have we? Have we done our best here? Is everybody satisfied?
Speaker 1:I may not use those terms, but really it makes sense, Because if everyone has been a part of the team effort, then everyone will have an opportunity. Even if they don't state it, they'll have some time to think about Yep.
Speaker 2:Getting everybody's buy-in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Yes, that makes sense. Now can we ship to your book?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Minutes with the Master yes, that is correct. Minutes with the Master. A devotional for the revelations of life? Yeah, so it had been on the table for some time. I've just been picking it up and putting it down, and picking it up and putting it down. And when I transitioned back to Birmingham, I really felt a tug. I felt a call to not only transition back here to help my mother with some medical matters, some health matters, but I really felt it was a time for me to go ahead and not continue in ministry, but to. I was being called to become a minister and alongside that I felt it would be a great time to finish the devotional because in a way, the devotional would be a great calling card, if you would, along with being ordained, because it kind of reveals everything that got me to the point of being called into ministry. So that's how we got two minutes with the master. All the minutes not all, but some very pivotal ones. In my life, from childhood to an adult, that the Lord has revealed great things to me.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's great. Now, when did you publish this?
Speaker 2:It was about a year ago. It's coming up on a year in May. It will be a year in May that it was released and you did all the devotionals yourself.
Speaker 2:I did you know, I kind of I had this idea of I was so busy but wanted to get it done. I had this idea of writing the devotional or like orating it to like a ghost writer, and then having them to finish it with some questions or ending. That thing was a total flop, which totally meant to me that I was supposed to be doing the whole thing myself.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It just like stretched it out and made it just like so painful and crazy so I never really got the sessions done with them correctly. Uh, it was, there was like a language barrier. It was crazy. I was like, no, no, no, not working out, not working out. So, to answer your question, yes, uh, I wrote all of them myself, did them all myself and uh, ended up Baby it's a self-publisher to kind of finish it and get it released for me, on and on to some, on to the regular online online publishers like Amazon, amazon, barnes and Noble Walmart and all of those, and Book Baby has it as well. You can get it at Book Baby. You can get it on my website, pinstarorg, as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, Yep, yep, yep. So Men is with the Master and it can be found on your website.
Speaker 2:And it's devotionals. They are really two, three page devotionals about, you know, times in my life that I know the Lord has been with me, intervened in situations in my life, led me through situations in my life, very pivotal times in my life, that the Lord has really intervened and just kind of led me through life from a child to now, even really painstaking events like events with my dad. My dad is no longer living, but he was a very I don't know what to say about my dad. You know, if he were still living he would have probably been diagnosed as bipolar or something. But my first memory of my birth father is being held at gunpoint by him in my granddaddy's kitchen along with the rest of my family members. He had us in a lineup in my granddaddy's kitchen and he was holding us at gunpoint.
Speaker 2:I had suppressed this memory and it started coming back to me in like my late 30s and it just would like pop in my brain and I was going is this real? Is this a real memory? And so I finally had to ask my mother did that really happen? And she was like, yes, it did. So that is the first devotional in the book, in a twinkling, but I'm saying that to say, but I'm saying that to say, if that were, or that was, my first memory of my birth father, you can, you can only imagine some of the other memories I have of him from that young age.
Speaker 2:I was about six until he passed, passed when I was like 16. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But surprisingly yeah, yeah, yeah, but surprisingly the book is not filled with those gory details about my dad, because I had such really great other examples in my life as a child. Thankfully, my mother was a role model. I had his mother. My paternal grandmother was a great role model. My mother's dad, my maternal granddad, was a great role model. My siblings were good. I had a really good childhood, despite some instances with my dad, but anyway I could not leave him out. But God was there through it all. So the devotional I am sure will resonate with many for many different reasons.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You know, that's really, in my opinion, what a devotional is about. You're giving some real-life experiences and how God helped you to overcome those or light at the end, because we've all had some times when we have questioned or, like you say, a memory comes up, you know you're thinking something. You're like wow, I have forgotten all about that, but it helps the reader. Some people think no one's going through this but me.
Speaker 1:All about me, why me? No, it's not just you. I'm a part of several anthologies and some of the stories that women tell, you know, is women empowerment. But they're telling their story and they're telling their story for the very first time and you know it still is very emotional for them. But it's their story, that's right. You know it is to uplift. It's not to put anybody down, it is just.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So, like you say, you know about the gory story, no, it's the true story. You know, and it's not to hurt anyone, it's to let people know what you've lived through. You know where God has brought you from. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2:That's so good, you get stuff, you get it. You get it because, well, praise God, yeah, I don't, because I don't go out touting it. You know I don't go out. I don't go out telling it and wearing it as a badge because it could win me fame or anything. I'm very careful when I share anything from my childhood or anything about my dad, because it's not for that. The Lord lets me know when it's time to even talk about that, or even tell someone, because he knows who it will help. He knows you know, he knows who what chapter from the devotional to share or who needs to know about the you know which one it's like. One of my therapists said oh, your life is like a movie. And I'm going, I'm saying exactly what you said to him. Well, it's not a movie, it's my life. It's my life, yeah. So, yeah, yeah, you get it. It's not. Yeah, it's not for the glory details and it's not for sensationalism, it is to. It's not for sensationalism.
Speaker 1:It's for God's glory, absolutely. It's definitely for God's glory to help someone to know you are not alone. You are not alone in this life. You are not alone. And I know when we're having some discussion, you know people are saying now, you know how they grew up. You know, go on in this house, stay in this house. Well, yeah, he's in the house, but he's wrecking somebody mentally.
Speaker 2:Come on now.
Speaker 1:You're wrecking someone mentally and emotionally and that a lot of people, I'm sure, did not know how to deal with it back in the day.
Speaker 1:You know you're going to be all right, you're going to be fine. It's never talked about. You're not able to express yourself and that's all. Therapy is being able to just get it off your chest. Get it off your chest. Get it off your chest and that lightens the load in your mind. Yeah, you know, we're not making light of any of it, but we're saying you can't hold all that in.
Speaker 2:That's right In the order that God wants you to no no, absolutely. You know, that's kind of how the devotional came about and that's how I believe I hope it's blessing people. It's got information about my career that we've already talked about, my family, my familial experiences, my health experiences, my relational experiences or, not so much, why I'm not married, never been married. It's got all that good stuff in there. Well, that's good.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's good, and if it was on your heart to put it in print, that's where it is and that's where people can find it, and you have told us, and you can tell us again, please, where they can locate your book.
Speaker 2:Book Baby Amazon, Barnes, Noble, and on my website at penstarorg P-E-N-S-t-a-r dot org okay, and the title of her devotional is minutes with the master that is correct yes, it's Lisa M Faulkner so just go out, pick up her book.
Speaker 1:It's a devotional, so I'm sure it is minutes. I'll pick up her book. It's a devotional, so I'm sure it is minutes that all you have to do is put into it a few minutes to read daily from her devotional and walk away feeling uplifted.
Speaker 2:Praise God. That is the goal.
Speaker 1:That is the goal. Well, Lisa, I have truly enjoyed having you on today. Thank you so much for being a part of Gentry's journey. Now, is there anything?
Speaker 2:you want to leave with the audience before we let go. It has been my sincere pleasure. I just trust that everyone will be inspired by the time that we have spent together and know that your journey is your journey as we have shared, and know that each day is yours to take on and do your very best.
Speaker 1:And that is true. Just take it one day at a time.
Speaker 2:One day at a time.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you.