The Direct Seller's Podcast
The Direct Seller's Podcast
Why Curiosity Beats Perfection Every Time in Business
In today’s heartfelt and empowering episode, Rachel welcomes back the incredible Martine Williams—Life Alignment Coach for mompreneurs—for a raw conversation about failure, identity, and harmony. Together, they unpack why failure is a necessary part of growth, how to stop tying your worth to outcomes, and why now is the time to reset your life and business with intention.
Key Points Covered:
- Why failure isn’t something to fear—but something to learn from
- How to reframe failure as feedback and fuel for future success
- The real reason we take failure so personally—and how to stop
- Why detaching from outcomes can actually make you more successful
- The danger of chasing balance—and what to focus on instead
- What to do when you’ve lost your identity in the hustle
- How Martine helps mompreneurs win at work without losing at home
- Why you don’t have to fit into someone else’s blueprint to succeed
- The power of curiosity, emotional resilience, and trusting yourself
- Details on Martine’s upcoming Work Life Reset Challenge (April 22–24)
Resources Mentioned:
- Martine’s Work Life Reset Challenge: martinewilliams.com/worklifereset
- Book Recommendation: Untangle Your Emotions by Jennie Allen
- Follow Martine on Instagram: @martine311williams
- Clarity Call with Martine: martinewilliams.com/rachel
- Martine’s Podcast: Life Coaching for Mompreneurs
Closing Thoughts: This episode is a must-listen for any woman navigating business, motherhood, and big dreams while learning to trust herself along the way. If you’ve ever felt like a failure or struggled to move forward when things didn’t go as planned, this conversation will breathe life and possibility back into your journey.
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Welcome to the Direct Sellers Podcast, the podcast for direct sellers who are ready to get uncomfortable, build their business and grow a team while changing the face of the direct sales industry. I'm your host, rachel Perry. Join me as we get real and talk about all the things you need to kick some serious direct sales booty From overcoming limiting beliefs to sharing the exact strategies you need to attract the right people who become customers and beg to join your team. I've got you covered, girl. I'm going to be your new BFF when it comes to balancing life and kids while building your direct sales business with poise, peace of mind and, of course, a good set of fake eyelashes. Let's get started.
Speaker 1:Hello, my friends, welcome back to another episode of the Direct Sellers Podcast. I'm so excited. I'm so excited because today we have a guest who's been on the podcast before. Again, I think it's been a while, like a long, long time. Yeah Right, I'm just so happy to have Martine Williams here. Martine is, you're just going to love this episode, because Martine has this gift of just speaking such like, she's such an encourager and she's so wise, and I'm just so delighted to have her here today so that you guys can participate in this and just gain so much knowledge from her. Martine, thank you for being here today.
Speaker 2:I am so excited to be here. I you know I love you and I love the work that you're doing and I just love any opportunity I can to come on and encourage people. That is, that is my superpower, so I'm so. I'm thankful that you see it and that you feel it, and any opportunity I get to do that just fills my cup. It really does so thank you.
Speaker 1:You know, it's so funny because I mean, I think that's like one of my superpowers as well. It's like connecting and encouraging and so being around you that's probably part of it is like I just feel so drawn to you because I feel so good when I'm around you, it's so, it's so great. You just just your presence, you just are amazing. Martine, would you do me a favor and just kind of share a little bit about who you are and what you do?
Speaker 2:Yes. So I'm a life alignment alignment coach for mompreneurs, and so the work that I do in my one-on-one practice is really helping you to win at work without losing at home. Do that without burning out, right. So, as an entrepreneur for 18 years, I started entrepreneurship in direct sales.
Speaker 2:So I was with a company called 31 Gifts for 16 years and, being in the homes of women having a large organization that I was leading, I went through my own stages of burnout, went through my own stages of kind of losing my identity on the way to success and sacrificing lots of things on the altar of that success. And so, having worked through it myself and being on the other side, I just really started to notice like this is something that so many mompreneurs are struggling with. They want to win at work and they don't want to lose at home at the same time, and it is possible. And you don't want to lose at home at the same time, and it is possible. And you don't have to burn yourself out to create that. It is a reality that you can create. And so I'm just super passionate about helping women to see there's another way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that so much because there is and there's that identity piece that you speak on too is so real. I think I've experienced that sort of loss of identity so many stages in my, you know, in my life y'all, I just turned 50. So I've had quite a life, oh my gosh, but it's. But just looking back at the stages, right, and how we, when we're new moms, like that's so much a part of who we, I mean, still is. Who are we kidding, like right, yeah, your mom, that's so much a part of who we, I mean, still is. Who are we kidding Like right, yeah, your mom. But that loss of identity is so massive and you don't sometimes you don't even realize that it's happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's just so easy to be wrapped up in. What I see is that our identity is what we do versus who we are. Right, and that's it's who you are. It's not what you do. You do mom, motherhood, you do entrepreneurship, but that's not who you are.
Speaker 2:And so many of us lose sight of that and we lose sight of the fun parts of ourselves in the day-to-day grind of being a mom and the day-to-day grind of entrepreneurship. So that's a big piece of it is what are the things that actually bring you joy and bring you energy, that are unique to you, and that's part of your identity. And we lose sight of that because we're just chasing the success, chasing the balance. That's a trap. If you didn't know that balance work-life balance is a trap, but it's not possible. So I like to think of it as harmony. But there are just different seasons of life and my kids were little when I first started an entrepreneurship and I remember working my business in the nooks and crannies of time and then, when they got to be older you know now they're 17 and 20, and they're not wanting as much time with me, and so it's just being excited and fulfilled in each of those seasons and realizing who do I need to become in this season to achieve what I want in this season of life and entrepreneurship?
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that so much. You sent an email out the other day that I would love to dive into because it was so powerful. You talked about kind of it was we were talking, it was we we were talking about. I was clearly really you guys. It was just so good. It just resonated so much with me and you talked about like the three critical mindset shifts that we need to take when it comes to failure. So I'm going to read them out to you and then I'd love to dive in.
Speaker 1:So failure is good feedback. Failure is only an event and failure is truly necessary. And I'd love to just dive into that because I do think I know we both have our, had been in this business world for a long time and we've experienced failure many times and we've seen others experience failure. We've seen others run from failure right, because nobody necessarily is like I'm ready to fail. But you had such a powerful perspective on these shifts, so I'd love to just dive into like the first piece of it. Just failure is good feedback. Can you kind of dive into that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you can look at it as, um, I always like to think of it as I just figured out a way that something didn't work. Yeah, like it's not I failed, or bad mom, or I'm a bad business owner, entrepreneur it's like, ok, I tried something, it didn't work, I'm going to get feedback from that and then I'm going to move forward. And I didn't always used to think this way, rachel. I mean I did for a long time, right, oh, well, well, that just failed. I might as well just pack up shop and just leave entrepreneur, entrepreneurship altogether.
Speaker 2:But when you think about like I know we're talking to probably women who have kids, to moms, when your child is learning to walk and they fall like, do you, and they do it, oh, guess you're never gonna learn to walk, right, I mean, you're such, I'll give up now. I mean, I can't believe you fell. Right to ourselves, we speak so unkindly to ourselves and we don't allow it to just be feedback and just realize, okay, I tried something, it didn't work, so now I'm just gonna step back, regroup and move forward. So one of my overall thoughts that keeps me out of like that doom of failure is I'm either getting the result that I want or the lesson that I need. I say that all that is a really core belief of mine and that keeps me from when things don't work because, listen, entrepreneurship is a roller coaster, if y'all didn't know that. So you don't own a business, you actually own a roller coaster and it goes up and down. There's some upside down moments. Things are completely out of your control right.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's broken, sometimes it's working.
Speaker 2:You're like upside down what's happening here but the way you choose to look at all of those really determines the joy you get to experience on the ride, and so, for, what keeps me in that forward motion versus being stuck, is I just got a lesson that I needed. If I didn't get this, that's what I wanted. What did I learn here? So you're the winning or you're learning, and that helps me to see failure as feedback.
Speaker 1:Right, I love that, and so it's detaching yourself from the outcome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think what happens is, if you think about throwing a dart at a target, until you throw the first dart you don't know whether you're on the bullseye or not, but you're so afraid of not hitting the bullseye that you never throw the dart because you fear missing it when really you've got to throw the first dart and say, okay, where am I off?
Speaker 2:Am I way off, or am I just one step off? And when you pull the trigger, or until you throw that dart, you have no idea where you are on the map, afraid of the failure and the emotions that come along with the failure. And if we're not seeing it as feedback, you're definitely probably taking it personal. And then you beat yourself up about it and they're like, well, that didn't feel good, so I'm not going to do that again. That's where emotional resilience comes into. If you're willing to feel disappointment, if you're willing to feel that something didn't work and feel the failure, you won't fear it anymore. It's just like it's part of the process. It's necessary. The only way I'm going to know if I'm on target to reach that client or bring that person into my program or sell that offer, the only way you're going to know is to go, and you can't feel failure and go at the same time and be effective.
Speaker 1:Whoa, you can't feel failure and go at the same time. That's big. And I love the analogy of playing darts, because, y'all, I do not have an athletic bone in my body and when I, we have a dartboard downstairs, and when I, it's not like we play darts all the time or anything, but when we do, I pretty much suck. So, but here's the thing, here's the thing on that. I love it. I'm able to let loose and have fun, knowing that I'm probably going to fail and I'm not going to get a bullseye, okay, but it's fun, right we? Because I released myself from that expectation that I'm going to get the bullseye every time and I'm able to have fun. So it's the same for you. You know, as you're trying different things, you can have fun in the process if we release that failure. Oh, I love that analogy.
Speaker 2:And if you're in curious energy, so that's the other piece that really loves me too Like when we feel fear, failure. A lot of times there's like there's a right way and a wrong way yes, right, and I get into that mindset a lot and that stops me in my tracks If I, if I believe there's a right way and there's. If I don't do it that way, then it's the wrong way. That dips me down into that kind of failure loop.
Speaker 2:Um, but if I am like I'm just going to be curious, like I'm getting ready to go into a launch, I'm going to try some new things, I'm just going to be curious. There is no right or wrong way to do this, I'm going to figure it out. Those are the things that I'm saying and I truly believe those things. But if I am in like attachment energy or I've got to get it right, or convincing energy, it takes me out of the game, because then I'm like I'm not open to the fun, I'm not open to the possibilities, I'm like, well, if I don't hit the bullseye, it was wasted, yeah, and that's what keeps people stuck and that keeps people from even throwing the first start, because they don't want to feel that way.
Speaker 1:That's so true. And there's that perfection piece in there too, right? A lot of my students who are currently in my backup plan program, where they're learning how to build a digital product of their own alongside their direct sales business. There's this little, there's this fear that what they create isn't good enough or that they will fail when they put it out there, and there's so much attachment to that outcome. And the reality is, like you said, we need to be scientists. We've got to figure out what is and what isn't going to work. I mean, I can't tell you how many lead magnets I've created right, like in the beginning, like I don't even know.
Speaker 1:There are so many things that I've created that haven't worked, and that's okay. It's okay. That's how we learn. Like you said, it's all a process. So what about? The failure is just an event?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that goes to the identity piece right, like if you truly can see it. I read this in Marie Forleo's book Everything is Figure Out, and when she said that, she was like failure is not a characteristic flaw, it's just an event, it's just something that happened. It doesn't mean you're a failure, but that's what we do, like we look at something that didn't work and we don't say, well, how can I have said that differently? Or how could I create a different process? There we're like oh, I'm a failure. We take it personal.
Speaker 2:And again, when you bring it on to, this is who I am. I'm a failure versus I'm an entrepreneur who figures things out. It just takes you out of the land of possibility. It keeps you in the problem and out of possibility. So for you to be able to see failure is just an event, it's just something that happened and I learned from it and I'm going to move on and create another event. And this event might also fail, but I don't have to fear it because it's not a direct reflection of who I am. Yeah, why don't have?
Speaker 1:to fear it because it's not a direct reflection of who I am. Yeah, why do we do that? Why do we do that? Why do we make it mean?
Speaker 2:something about us? Right, we do. We make it mean something about us versus like I mean. I'll give you an example. I was in my mastermind and the coach was talking about her leaving page and, like you know, it wasn't converting like she wanted it to and like she all the things she was saying to herself about why it was failing. And she was talking to one of her peers about it and they were like change all your buttons to yellow and she converted. It had nothing to do with her, her ability to coach, her ability to write copy, like all of the things that you would initially say I'm failing or I'm a failure. It was literally the color of a button. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:Right now, I know all you're going to go change all your buttons together. That might not be the color right now because that changes too right, but that's why we have to be willing to be flexible and curious and just know I'm going to try this. It requires you to really think about what you're thinking about. That's the difference. So many of us go into entrepreneurship like action and taking action and taking action, and we're trying to create a different result with the same level of thinking. You can't do that. You really have to think about what you're thinking about going into your launch, thinking about what you're thinking about when you're offering up this new freebie that you've been helping your clients with. Like, what are you saying to you If you're saying to yourself, no one's going to buy this right? No one's going to buy it Right, because it's the energy you bring to the offer, it's your confidence you bring to the offer or you bring to the table. So you, that's the, that's the work that people don't see. Yeah, like, they see you successful, they see me successful.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of work that we do in ourself, right, in our own mindsets, in our own thought process. And so why do we do it? It's because we're not spending this time focusing on the inside work. We can't fix an external problem with internal problem with external things. Right, we try to change the behavior before we change. Like, what am I actually thinking and where did that thought come from? Yeah, right, like we just believe, whatever the brain is offering up, you're a failure. How is that not true? Like, the next time you feel like a failure, just ask yourself that question how is that true? And see what comes up. I think you'll.
Speaker 1:You'll be amazed at what comes up yeah, I love that so much because you, you know so much of this process. I feel like so many things have happened as I've built this business where I'm like, well, that'll be a good story for stage. You know like, yeah, that's going to be a great story, I'm going to teach how I overcame that. Well, that's good, you know, and I, that's. That's just a different way of looking at it, rather than just being like, oh my gosh, like I should just quit right now. Yeah, I think, okay, this is gonna be really great for when I'm on stage in front of thousands and thousands of people. So so it's almost like, let's manifest this. Maybe that's the problem in my case.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. Okay, just get really honest with yourself. Yeah, I think we're afraid also to see those thoughts. We're afraid to admit I'm scared or I'm afraid that you know, I don't like that. I feel like, well, let's just look at it. Yeah, you don't have to judge yourself for being there. It's just where you are. It's not who you are, it's just where you are right now.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And the only way to move forward is to actually be honest about where you are right now. And if you're thinking this is going to fail, you need to pause and think about why. Are you thinking that before you go to put it out there, right, like what's one little bridge thought you can create eight to get you from? This is going to fail because you might, you might not be able to get. This is going to sell millions of copies. Right, if you're in the place of. This is going to fail, but can you get to? I'm learning how to sell millions of copies. That subtle shift again takes you out of problem into possibility. We want to be in possibility, we want to be in curiosity. We don't want to be in stuck failure mode.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I love that so much. I think I just want to like have you with me all the time. Like, if you could just be like next to me I think I'm great to work with, like we could just hang out. It's just you're, what you're saying is so good and I'm so excited for everyone to hear this. Okay, so let's talk about the last mindset shift, and that's. Failure is truly necessary.
Speaker 2:It's not bad, right, it's not bad, and some of you just need to have that shift. It's part of the process, right, it's the way you refine things, is the way you grow, is the way you make things better. You learn, you learn, and so to know that it's almost like just to expect it. Don't be surprised by it. Expect it, right, just expect there's going to be some things. Like I remember when we were planning our wedding and like I was very organized, I had a binder, had all the things. I didn't have a wedding planner, I did it all. But you know, I had people who had been before me Right, I hadn't been. And they're like something is going to go wrong. Yeah, it's, it's literally okay, something is going to go wrong. So expect it, so you're not hugely or what you know. Like it ruins the whole night, right.
Speaker 2:And I remember walking into our reception and the tablecloths that I wanted were supposed to be these beautiful lace and they were just these plain white tablecloths. And then I'm having the first dance with my dad and he's like we're out of wine already. But I was like it's okay, I expected it. I expected not everything to go perfect. It's when we're in this like perfectionistic loop everything has to be perfect, there's a right way to do it, and then when something doesn't work, it just takes us out. We see it as something bad. Versus that, versus this is an opportunity for me to grow. This is an opportunity for me to do it better next time. But you can't get there if your thought is I'm a failure.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That's so true. You can't. Your brain's not even open to the possibility that failure is a good thing If you're thinking it makes me feel bad or it makes a failure right. So that's where you have to get there first in your mind is change your thoughts about failure. How do you see failure? How do you see failure? How do you define failure? What are you making failure mean about you? That's a really great question. What are you making it mean about you when something doesn't work? That's exactly it. Yeah, how can you detach yourself from that? You just didn't get the outcome you wanted. It was the first thought you have. It's me, I did something wrong. I'm not good at this. I'm not enough. I should have done this, I should have done that. Like it's again, we want to own responsibility for the things that we can do different, but what do you make it mean about you personally or your identity when you fail?
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause you are not the result. Like the results are just things that happen. That's not you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And you think about all the people I mean there's all the successful people that you see today were just willing to fail over, over, over and over again and like for me, I was talking to a client the other day I remember being when I was in direct sales like, and I would get a no, I'm like I would just be so excited and I would check it off. I know I have to go through the lane of no to get to my yes, so I'm going to celebrate every no, but that's a mindset shift you have to have. Right Is realizing that the no is actually getting me closer to my yes. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, so it's all.
Speaker 1:It's all a mindset thing and really it's not even like we probably should just rename failure because it is a failure, right when? When things don't work the way you want them to, or the way you're hoping that they will, or the way you envision it to happen, doesn't mean that you failed. It just means it didn't. It just means it didn't work. It didn't work this time, so now you're that much closer to what does work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Marie calls it in her book. The acronym is failed attempt and learning. Is that right? I love that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's so you're learning right.
Speaker 2:So that attempt didn't work. Now we're going to try and learn again, and we're going to learn again and learn again. And me and you have to find this for yourself, right, you have to find, like, what's the word, what's the thought, what's the energy you want to be in for me, because I know my brain likes to go to right way, wrong way, thinking yes, I can stay in curious energy. I'm just curious. I mean, I would literally picture a curious george the monkey. I'm like if I could just stay in curious energy, then it keeps me out of wealth. You're a failure, you know. Like it just keeps me out of that. So maybe that's for some of them that are listening it's like how can you just be curious, unattached from the outcome, but just curious? I'm just going to try the thing and we're going to see how it works. And if I don't hit the target, I'm going to just going to, you know, pull back, regroup and then move forward again.
Speaker 1:I talk about that in my programs all the time, like, like I said before, like scientists get curious, try different things, and I think, especially in the direct sales industry, this is hard, it's more of a challenge. I don't want to say hard, it's more of a challenge because we're taught do it this way, this is what's worked for me and I'm having such success. This is how it works and we take it as okay. It's either this or that. I remember and I've told this story so many times I remember, like writing out top leaders, like their scripts of exactly what they say when they're sharing the business. But that didn't work for me because it wasn't me, it was just, and I was missing the point.
Speaker 1:And I think it's so important for us to remember that it's not black and white, even, and some people are more attuned to that than others. Right, like, like I tend to be still in my business today I'll be like but no, this is what you're telling me to do, so I'm supposed to do that, and just giving yourself the freedom to try something different, to deviate from the norm or whatever is okay. Like, do it, because that's how we are able to sort of escape that black and white, it's right or wrong sort of mindset, because that's also holding us back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And what if you just trusted that you had the answer? Yeah, right. Like what if you just trusted that your brain is capable of coming up with the perfect answer? And the perfect not perfect, but the best way to talk about your business, because it's going to come from your energy and your thoughts, versus someone else's cookie cutter system. It just doesn't work for everyone. It doesn't, and I think we try to like, squeeze ourselves into other people's platforms or processes, and there are some like tried and true systems and processes. I'm not saying that, but even those systems and processes can be personalized for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's only one of you, and God created you unique and uniquely amazing to do what only you can do in your space, and so people are going to be attracted to how you do it. Yeah, yeah. And so again, like, how can you really think about your unique abilities that you bring to your brand and do things that feel? Because it's not the words you say, it's not the email that you send, it's the energy that you're in when you say and do those things. If you're in a right wrong way, energy when you're writing like If you're in a right wrong way, energy when you're writing like, let's just say this failure email, then, like, you will feel that in that email, your customers will feel that in their email.
Speaker 2:But if you're excited and you feel like this is really going to help someone today and you're in that curious energy of like, are they going to open it? Are they going to respond to it? Are they really going to open it? Are they going to respond to it? Are they really going to love this, like it? Just, your energy is what is going to bring people into your world and you have to find your energy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's got to be your energy, not.
Speaker 2:Rachel's energy, not my energy. It's got to be your energy, like what is the thing for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as you were talking about how there are tried and true systems, right, like there are things that we know what works in the direct sales, we know what works when we're building a business, and all the things but I want you to think about. I don't know why this came to my mind, okay. But chili you know, there are all these times that people have like chili cookoffs right, I've never even been a part of one, so I don't know why I'm like acting like I know what I'm talking making, but everyone has a different recipe and everyone has a secret ingredient and everyone puts a little bit of themselves in that chili, right, that's what it's like. That's what you need to do in business, whether it be you're building your own sort of side hustle or you're building your direct sales business. You do the thing. You know what works.
Speaker 1:Now let's try and personalize it a little bit more and making it you. So I love that so much. Okay, I feel like we could have a whole nother discussion about knowing how to trust yourself and all of that. Yeah, so we'll just have to have you back, okay, because I would love to talk about that, because that's definitely been a journey for me personally to be totally honest and transparent, like learning to trust myself that I can make the right decisions, that I know what I'm doing, that you know so much there.
Speaker 1:So we're definitely going to have to be back for that. Tell me where can everyone? Or tell us where can everyone find you All the things? Give us all the things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my website is martinwilliamscom, so you can go on there. You can have an email that goes out, as Rachel was talking about, every single week, every Monday, so I have a glow up list. So you want to definitely make sure you're on that, because you'll have inspiration and tangible tactical tips to come into your inbox every Monday.
Speaker 2:I also have a podcast, which you were a guest, on life coaching for mompreneurs. You can go listen to that podcast on any of your favorite podcast listening apps. You can go listen to that podcast on any of your favorite podcast listening apps, and I actually have offer free clarity calls and so I created that for your listeners, and so you can just go to MartineWilliamscom forward slash Rachel and you can book your free clarity call there. We can talk about all the things we talked about today and just help you to get really clear on where you are right now, because that's the first step is awareness around where you are right now, where you want to go next and how we're going to get you there. So that is also available to you. So, and I'm on Instagram, martine311williams I am on Instagram too.
Speaker 1:Okay, I love that so much. Ooh, I love that. Get yourself a clarity call y'all, okay Before we go, cause you do this too, and I love it. I think you do this. Okay before we go, because you do this too, and I love it. I think you do this. What is your favorite book? Do you do something like that?
Speaker 2:on your podcast. You know I used to in the podcast and I was thinking about this the other day. I'm like I need to bring that back, because I used to always ask what your favorite book was, what your favorite app was. Like just some of your favorite. Oh, my goodness, Y'all. I love to read, so that's why I'm asking you?
Speaker 1:because I know you know I tend to stray, to like the fiction and you are more nonfiction and I'm like I'm always looking for a good book to listen to when it comes to nonfiction.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay. So this one I just read. I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but it's really good. It's called Untangle your Emotions by Jeannie Allen. Good, it's called Untangle your Emotions by Jeannie Allen, and we just did it with my book club and talked about it last night and they were some of them are like cause they're definitely fiction readers and they were like.
Speaker 2:I mean I was could not wait to hear what they had to say about it, but they're like, now that we're talking about it, I'm glad that I read it. Yeah, I never picked it up myself to read it, but it really just helps you because, again, part of entrepreneurship is learning to manage your mind, yeah, learning to manage your emotions and learning if we're willing to feel anything, we'll be willing to do anything. If you're willing to feel failure and disappointment, you'll be willing to do the things that you know are probably going to bring upon some failure and disappointment. So we don't have to fear it, we can. We have the emotional safety to hold that emotion. And so that book is just all about, like, helping you to untangle some of these emotions and not try to fix them, but just allow yourself to feel them. So okay.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be on my audible next? Yeah, cause I love to do that. I love to listen to like personal development books while I'm getting ready in the morning. Um, just because like gives me time to think about it. So so good. Thank you so much for being on this podcast today. I just appreciate it, and every time I get to hang out with you is the best time ever, so thank you.
Speaker 2:No, thank you. Thank you, it's an honor to be on here and, yeah, we'll just have to keep having these podcasts swaps yes, agreed.
Speaker 1:Agreed, it's just going to be amazing On the road together, cause I feel like we could really do some, some, some, some, amazing, right. All right, thank you, martine. All right, thank you so much. All right, martine, before we go, I know you have a challenge, I believe, coming up. Would you tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 2:I want you to think of it like a coaching, coaching week, like you're going to. We're going to be spending so much time together, so we're going to do three days together. It's called the work life reset, and so each day we're going to come together and we're going to be talking about this reset. Why do you need the reset? Reset what is a reset? We're going to reset your focus so that you're really clear on what your priorities are. We're going to shift your mindset and your habits. So we're going to reset your mind, reset habits and then realign your life with boundaries and harmony. So, three days, you and I together and all the people, all your listeners, come together for three days. You could get to spend time three days with a life alignment coach, someone who can really bring you into possibility.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's happening. I'm going to be there. I'm so excited about this because we were just talking about this before and then we'll get the link. We were just talking about this Like, martine has this incredible ability to help you see the possibility and even I consider myself a dreamer, I consider myself like I can help other people see possibilities but just in a few words, martine has this incredible gift to just help you see what is possible for you, and so I feel like everyone listening should sign up for this, because you are such an incredibly gifted coach and this I guarantee. You guys will walk away from that three days feeling like a new person. So where can people sign up?
Speaker 2:So they can, martinwilliamscom forward, slash work life reset.
Speaker 1:It will be in the notes, you guys. So if you didn't get it, just look down below. It's all there, martine. Oh, when is it so?
Speaker 2:it's going to kick off April 22nd, so the 22nd, 23rd and 24th.
Speaker 1:Awesome, perfect, okay, well, go sign up, you guys. Martine again, thank you so much.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
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