While most of the places we feature on this podcast are either a state park or forest, this episode is about something a little different. Bowman’s Hill Wildflower Preserve is not just a garden or a park. It’s a sanctuary. A living, breathing tribute to Pennsylvania’s native plants and the ecosystems they support.

Founded in the early 1930s, Bowman’s Hill Wildflower Preserve is the nation’s only accredited native plant museum. Today, it boasts over 700 native plant species—each one telling its own story of survival, adaptation and connection. 

This isn't your average wildflower walk. When you step onto the trails here, you're transported through time and terrain—from spring ephemerals peeking through forest floors to late summer blooms lighting up sunny meadows. The preserve’s landscape is as diverse as its mission is vital: to inspire the appreciation and use of native plants by serving as a sanctuary, nursery and educational center.

The preserve’s role in education and community outreach is unquestionable. It serves as a living classroom for children and adults alike, fostering curiosity and stewardship in the next generation of conservation-minded Pennsylvanians.

For many, a visit to Bowman’s Hill is the start of a lifelong love affair with native plants and the wild places they represent.

So whether you're a seasoned botanist, a backyard gardener, or someone who just enjoys a peaceful walk in the woods, Bowman’s Hill is for you. Because in a world that often feels loud, fast, and disconnected, Bowman’s Hill Wildflower Preserve offers something rare: a chance to slow down, reconnect, and rediscover the extraordinary beauty in the plants that have always been here. 

On this episode, I spoke with Peter Couchman. Peter is the executive director of Bowman’s Hill Wildflower Preserve.

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Stretching 444 miles from New York through Pennsylvania and into Maryland’s Chesapeake Bay the Susquehanna River is one of the oldest rivers in the world. 

And while it served generations as fertile hunting and fishing grounds and trade and transportation routes, it took American industries a couple hundred or so years to nearly destroy it. Like always, it took a dedicated group of people to speak up and make changes that would save the river. 

One of the voices speaking on behalf of the river belongs to the Middle Susquehanna Riverkeeper—an advocate, a watchdog and a tireless defender of one of the most important watersheds in the United States.

The volunteer organization protects and promotes the Susquehanna River, its tributaries and the aquatic ecosystem it supports across an 11,000-square-mile watershed defined by the North and West branches of the river. 

Their passion for clean water and public engagement is reshaping how communities interact with their local waterways. 

What sets the Middle Susquehanna Riverkeeper apart isn’t just advocacy—it’s education. Their floating classroom program, citizen science initiatives, and water quality monitoring efforts are all about empowering people to become stewards of their environment. Because protecting a river starts with understanding it.

The Susquehanna River faces a number of continued threats; from outdated infrastructure and agricultural runoff to industrial discharges and invasive species. These aren't distant, abstract problems—they're real challenges that affect real people. 

And the Riverkeeper are on the frontlines, combining data, public pressure and policy to push for meaningful change. But this work isn’t all warnings and water samples. It's also about joy—about reconnecting people with their rivers, creeks and lakes. 

On this episode, I speak with John Zaktansky. John is the executive director of the Middle Susquehanna Riverkeeper. 

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High above the meeting point of two mighty rivers, where the Susquehanna splits into its North and West Branches, stands Shikellamy State Park. Perched on a forested bluff in central Pennsylvania, this park offers more than just scenic overlooks. It’s a gateway to the natural beauty, cultural history and outdoor adventure of the Susquehanna River Valley. 

Shikellamy State Park is a place where geography and heritage intersect. The story of the park and the story of the Native American tribes that called it home are forever intertwined. In the 1700s, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy took control of the surrounding area.  

Nearby Shamokin – whose name means “the Place of Eels” - was one of the most important Indigenous cities in Pennsylvania during that time. The resident Haudenosaunee welcomed tribes including the Conestoga, Conoy, Nanticoke, Tuscarora, Lenape and the Shawnee displaced by settlers.

The French and Indian War, the American Revolution and the purchase of the land by Commonwealth of Pennsylvania forced many of the Indigenous people in Pennsylvania to move west or north.

The park – which is made of up two separate sections – held numerous purposes over the years. It was an air strip, homestead, farm, “pleasure ground,” amusement center and hotel before becoming a state park in 1962. 

Shikellamy State Park’s two distinct areas is the marina along the river in Sunbury, and the scenic overlook high on the bluff in Northumberland. Each area offers a different experience—from peaceful boating and fishing on the Susquehanna to breathtaking vistas of the valley below. It's a rare park that invites you both to explore water-level wilderness and to rise above it all for a bird’s-eye view.

Shikellamy’s unique location has made it a hub for both recreation and reflection—a place where families come to picnic, hikers go to find solitude, and birders gather to catch sight of bald eagles soaring over the river.

But Shikellamy isn't just about quiet beauty—it’s about connection. The park sits at the crossroads of culture, drawing in people from nearby towns and beyond. Whether it’s for community events, wildlife watching at the overlook, or simply taking a moment to breathe in the valley air, visitors come here to feel grounded.

There’s a rhythm to this park—seasonal, historical, natural. Spring floods give way to summer sun, and autumn paints the hills in brilliant reds and golds. And in every season, Shikellamy offers a chance to see the world from a new perspective—both literally and figuratively.

On this episode, I speak with Ben Bender. Ben is the park manager of the Shikellamy State Park complex. 

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When it comes to rewarding outdoor experiences, there are few things that can compete with seeing a waterfall. There’s just so much to enjoy. The mesmerizing sight of water cascading over rocks, the soothing sound of its rhythmic splash and the refreshing touch of mist in the air.

No matter if the waterfall is five stories or five feet, they’re a wonderful sight in nature.

And luckily, Pennsylvania has a lot of beautiful waterfalls. We’ve got all sorts here. We got big ones, small ones, ones that can be found all year long, ones that only be seen after a big rain. Ones that roar like freight trains and ones that tinkle like wind chimes.

We have waterfalls all over the Commonwealth. From Cucumber Falls in Fayette County to Ganoga Falls in Luzerne County. You can see waterfalls easily from your car or hike miles into the forest to explore them away from the crowds. We have something for everyone. And while TLC famously told us not to go chasing waterfalls, I implore you to.

But having so many options can be dauting for some. Where do I start? Where should I visit first? When is the best season to see them? 

I don’t know. So I decided to find someone who did. And we could not have gotten a better guest for an episode on our majestic waterfalls than this episode’s expert. 

On this episode, I speak with Jim Cheney. Jim is the creator of Uncovering PA and the author of “Waterfalls of Pennsylvania.” 

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Michaux State Forest is the place I spend the most time outdoors. Located about 30 miles from where I live, it’s where I hike and camp. It’s where I bring visitors to show off the South Mountain region. It’s where I breath in fresh air and explore the beauty of the Commonwealth. It’s my safe place away from the goings-on of Harrisburg. 

But that safety was shattered in April 2025. I received text messages from friends telling me that Michaux was on fire. Then, news came that there were two fires. And they were spreading. With wind and no rain in the forecast it became evident that the situation could get bad quickly.

Over the following two weeks, I’d see photos and videos of the fires spreading across the forest I loved. Friends were evacuated from their homes. Roads were closed. Massive clouds of smoke billowed across the area. People were scared. The beautiful landscape I loved was on fire and there was nothing I could do but watch. 

But thanks to incredibly brave firefighters and with a little help from the weather, the Thompson Hollow and Hammond Rocks fires were extinguished in 14 days. Over 150 fire companies from 10 Pennsylvania and Maryland counties battled the blaze. Approximately 2,700 acres were destroyed by the wildfires. 

Luckily, no homes or private property was damaged and only two people suffered minor injuries. 

And, predictably, a determination was made that the fires were human caused, like 99 percent of all wildfires.

Here’s the thing. While the situation was scary for many in the area – even for us 40 minutes from the fires – this is a common occurrence in Pennsylvania. There’s between 1,000 and 2,000 wildfires every year in Commonwealth. And the majority of those wildfires occur in the spring. 

These fires so close to home was a sobering reminder of the ever-present danger of wildfires. With Michaux still charred from the fires, I wanted to know more about wildfires and the wildland firefighters that have to put them out. 

On this episode, I speak with Mike Kern. Mike is the Chief Forest Fire Warden for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. 

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Tucked away in the rugged hills of northwestern Pennsylvania, Clear Creek State Forest offers a peaceful escape into one of the Commonwealth’s most scenic and secluded natural areas.

Spread across thousands of acres, this forest is a haven for nature lovers, where trails wind through towering hardwoods, crystal-clear streams carve their way through valleys and wildlife flourishes in every direction.

Whether you're wandering through old-growth forests, casting a line in the Clarion River, or simply soaking in the stillness of the woods, Clear Creek invites you to slow down and reconnect with the wild beauty of Pennsylvania.

One of the forest’s most compelling features is its sense of solitude. Unlike some of the busier parks and forests in the state, Clear Creek often feels like a well-kept secret—offering quiet trails and remote backcountry campsites that let visitors truly immerse themselves in nature

Hikers can explore paths where they might stumble upon deer, wildflowers, or remnants of Pennsylvania’s logging past. And in autumn, the forest puts on a breathtaking show of fiery reds, oranges, and golds that reflect off the water and blanket the hillsides. But really, every season is spectacular in Clear Creek State Forest. 

From kayaking and fishing to hunting and wildlife photography, there’s no shortage of ways to experience the land. More than just beautiful scenery, Clear Creek State Forest is a place to reunite—with nature, with yourself, or with loved ones. 

For many, the real draw of Clear Creek lies in its unspoiled charm—a reminder that some of the best places in Pennsylvania are still those where the only sound is the wind through the trees and the rush of a mountain stream.

It’s the kind of place that reminds you why Pennsylvania is such a special place for outdoor recreation—a landscape shaped by time, preserved with care and waiting to be discovered.

On this episode, I speak with Miles Valchar. Miles is the timber management and outdoor recreation forester at Clear Creek State Forest. 

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I’ve known my guest Wes Robinson for more than a decade, beginning when we started at our new jobs together at PennLive/The Patriot News.

When it comes to friends, I tend to seek out fun, critical thinkers. Someone that can challenge me and make me laugh. Someone who will get right to the line and roundly cross it. Someone who has a strong moral character and a diabolical sense of humor.

After I left journalism, I worked to bring Wes with me to the Pennsylvania Senate. He joined me at the Capitol for several years. We’d see each other at press conferences, events and at our semi-regular “journalism survivors guild” lunch. 

Then in 2021, Wes took an amazing opportunity to become the press secretary for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. 

During that same time, I decided to run a mile in all then 121 Pennsylvania State Parks. So, as I was discovering the outdoors, Wes was doing much of the same thing professionally. 

Wes was one of only three people to joined me on my 121 In 21 Challenge.  On a sweltering day in July, Wes ran one mile at seven state parks with me. It was yet another example of him being a great supporter and going the extra mile – so to speak – for a friend. 

As I was developing this podcast in 2022, I knew its success depended on whether I could get guests. From the very beginning, Wes worked hard to make sure I was able to find guests that would highlight our amazing outdoor spaces. 

Wes is the sort of person that loves seeing his friends succeed. And he’ll do as much as he can to introduce you to the right people, send the email to the right organization or bring you along to a networking event. Not to curry favors. Not to make himself look good. But to make you look good. 

This podcast would not exist without Wes. His generosity, hard work and legitimacy in the outdoor space is the only reason I can make Hemlocks to Hellbenders. 

So, what is this episode about? How awesome Wes is? A little. What work is going on at DCNR? Absolutely.

But it’s also about two friends whose journey of falling in love with the outdoors is connected. It’s about what can be done with the right people at the right time. And it’s about what we can all do to support each other and our wonderful public lands.

On this episode, I speak with Wes Robinson. Wes is the press secretary for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources and my very good friend. 

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Point State Park stands as the crowned jewel of downtown Pittsburgh. It is a lush, 36-acre greenspace nestled at the historic confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers, where the mighty Ohio River is born.

Point State Park is a focal point for community gatherings, festivals and celebrations. It provides sweeping views of the city’s skyline and serves as a tranquil urban escape.

The Point has become the place you bring your out of town parents to. The place you see on TV during all home games for the Pirates and Steelers. The place you see from atop of the iconic Duquesne Incline. 

But it hasn’t always been that way. 

Before it was Point State Park, it was known as the Forks of the Ohio River and served as a critical military strong hold for the French, British, Native American and American militaries. Fort Prince George, Fort Duquesene and Fort Pitt were all – at one time or another – located where the state park stands.

Overtime the Point developed into a thriving industrial zone, a place dedicated to supplying resources for the growing United States of America. 

But by the 1930s, the area had deteriorated into a commercial slum. City and state officials stepped up and completely changed the property. 

More than just a park, the Point is a testament to Pittsburgh’s ability to reinvent itself while honoring its roots and is a powerful symbol of Pittsburgh’s resilience, history and natural beauty.

As the gateway to the city and the heart of its downtown, Point State Park doesn’t just represent Pittsburgh—it is Pittsburgh.

On this episode, I speak with Jack Lachendro. Jack is the Environmental Education Specialist at Point State Park. 

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Many of us find our love for the outdoors the same way – with a hike. A short jaunt into the woods that brings us in touch with nature. But soon, short hikes just won’t do. There’re too many people. Too many screaming kids. Too much car traffic.

So, the only logical next step is to take longer hikes. 2 miles turns into 5 miles, turns into 10 miles. The peaceful solitude of the woods, the rewarding views from a summit and the sense of accomplishment after completing a trail all contribute to a growing desire to spend even more time immersed in nature.

As that passion grows, the idea of longer backpacking trips becomes more appealing. The ability to stay in the wilderness overnight offers a deeper connection to the outdoors.

Gone are the easy hikes. Now you’re planning multi-day journeys that require you to learn additional skills. You learn how to read maps. You develop a sleeping system. You figure out how to poop outside. 

Soon, you’re watching ultralight gear videos on YouTube and drooling over maps of the Appalachian Trail. All of your clothes are hiking clothes and full transformation to granola gang is complete. 

For some, the progression from day hiker to backpacker is a natural one. But for many, myself included, it can be intimidating. Going from hiking around a lake to hiking for several days is a difficult hurdle – mentally and physically. 

But where do I start? What gear do I need? What hikes should I try? How can I go from a day hiker to a backpacker safely? 

Well since I’m still a backpacking noob, I decided to talk to the person that was once in my hiking shoes. 

On this episode, I speak with Tory Mather. Tory is the voice behind the My Trails Are Many blog and @ToryTalksTrails accounts on social media. 

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The best part about having 124 state parks to explore in Pennsylvania is the variety. Each park is special in its own way. Each park offers a natural feature, a trail, a view, a piece of local history, or something that makes it stand out from others. 

You’ve got the old growth forests at Cook Forest State Park. The waterfalls at Ricketts Glen State Park. The fly fishing at Poe Paddy State Park. Every single park offers a bit of variety. A bit of magic. A bit of splendor. A bit of something special that makes every visit to a state park worthwhile.

So, what makes Susquehannock State Park special? What is the bit of magic they do better than any of the other state parks?

For me, it’s the breathtaking panoramic views of the Lower Susquehanna River. The Susquehannock State Park Complex is made up of three separate properties, each offering incredible views of the river. 

From the overlooks, you can take in the river as it winds through steep, forested hills and dramatic cliffs. These overlooks provide stunning vantage points where you can gaze out over the wide expanse of water, dotted with rocky islands and framed by lush greenery.

On a clear day, you might catch a glimpse of bald eagles and hawks soaring overhead or boats gliding along the river below. The mix of dense woodlands, open meadows, and the ever-changing colors of the river make this park the perfect place to enjoy the magnificence of the Commonwealth.

Don’t get me wrong, I love every state park. But Susquehannock State Park has that little something extra. That little shimmer of gold. That little magic that makes the park special in its own wonderful way. And I’m thrilled to share that with you, right now. 

On this episode, I speak with Kelly Ford. Kelly is the Environmental Education Specialist at Susquehannock State Park Complex. 

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In the heart of Central Pennsylvania lies a true outdoor recreation paradise. If you're looking for adventure, Huntingdon County delivers—hiking, biking, paddling, and breathtaking views at every turn. 

Whether you’re trekking through Rothrock State Forest, paddling on Raystown Lake or taking in the stunning views from the Standing Stone Trail, there’s no shortage of ways to explore the wild beauty of this region. 

Huntingdon County is home to a vast network of trails that cater to every kind of adventurer. Looking for a challenging hike with wonderful overlooks? You’ll want to check out the Thousand Steps, a historic and leg-burning climb that rewards hikers with unforgettable views. Prefer a scenic and relaxing ride?

The Allegrippis Trails at Raystown Lake are considered some of the best mountain biking trails on the East Coast. And if you’re someone who enjoys time on the water, the Juniata River offers miles of beautiful shoreline, perfect for kayaking, fishing, or just soaking in nature.

On this episode, sponsored by the Huntingdon County Visitors Bureau, we’ll talk with trail experts and outdoor enthusiasts who know this landscape inside and out.

They’ll share the best spots to explore, the history behind some of these iconic trails, and why Huntingdon County has become a must-visit destination for hikers, bikers, paddlers, and nature lovers alike.

In fact, they’re hosting the Keystone Trail Association’s Spring Hiking Weekend from April 25 to 27 at Lake Raystown Resort. The weekend will showcase local  hikes, environmental stewardship activities, bike rides, guest speakers, dog-friendly activities and more. 

So whether you’re looking for a new trail to conquer, a weekend getaway packed with adventure, or just some inspiration to get outside, stick around—because we’re about to dive deep into all the outdoor recreation Huntingdon County has to offer.

On this episode, I speak with Matt Price and George Conrad. Matt is the executive director of the Huntingdon County Visitors Bureau. George is the president of the Standing Stone Trail Club.

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Tucked away just outside of Hollidaysburg, Canoe Creek State Park is underrated treasure. It’s got a little bit of everything to keep visitors busy, interested and engaged. 

It’s location also makes it the perfect homebase for weekends visiting Altoona, Holidaysburg and so much more.

I’m looking forward to getting back to Canoe Creek State Park with friends to explore even more of the Ridge and Valley Province of southern Pennsylvania.

On this episode, I speak with Heidi Mullendore. Heidi is the environmental education specialist at Canoe Creek State Park. 

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For generations, Pennsylvanians have been at the forefront of conservation movements that have shaped the United States. Pennsylvanians like Gifford Pinchot, Joseph Rothrock, J Horace McFarland and Rachel Carson have had immeasurable impacts on our natural world. 

They’ve helped protect our forests, create state parks, beautify our cities and warn against the devastating affects of pesticides. Others like Ralph Brock and Mira Lloyd Dock have often been left out of the history books, due to discrimination. But finally, they voices and work are being raised up.

From the indigenous tribes that inhabited the lands we now call Pennsylvania, to the activists that helped pass the environmental rights amendment to our constitution, Pennsylvania has a long and storied history of conservation. 

I find that the more time I spend outside enjoying our incredible public lands, the more I want to learn more about our history of conservation. But where’s a good place to start? Where can I learn a lot without getting bogged down in timelines and jargon.

For me, there’s been no better guidebook, than Allen Dieterich-Ward’s "Cradle of Conservation: An Environmental History of Pennsylvania."

Released in 2024, this book is a comprehensive study of Pennsylvania’s environmental history in less than 150 pages. This concise book unpacks the people, policies and pivotal moments that turned Pennsylvania into a leader in conservation. Whether you're a history buff, a nature lover, or just someone who enjoys a good story about the great outdoors, this book is for you.

On this episode, I speak with Allen Dieterich-Ward. Allen is a professor of history and director of The Graduate School at Shippensburg University and the author of Cradle of Conservation. 

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When taking a hike, people don’t often think about everything it takes to keep trails operational. The bridge building, the trail restoration, the habitat enhancement, the invasive species management and so on. The work often goes unseen. 

And if you don’t spend much time thinking about the work that takes place, even less time is spent thinking about the people that do the work. The image of burly guys in flannel with hardhats and chainsaws come to mind. Rough and tough individuals who would have been lumberjacks or coal miners in previous generations. Now, wearing safety orange they tend to the land for the benefit of all Pennsylvanians. 

Yeah. That’s just not the case. While many of those guys and gals are still out there performing the work, often time projects are being done by kids. Well not kids, kids but young adults ages 15 to 25. 

Members of the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps take on projects across dozens of state parks and forests every year through programs lasting 6 weeks to nine months. Mentored by older individuals, these crews complete tens of thousands of hours of work on improvement projects while also receiving training and education and developing team building and career opportunities.

The Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps was created by DCNR Sec. Cindy Adams Dunn to connect youth and young adults with job opportunities relating to the outdoors and the environment. 

On this episode, we’re going to be exploring the work they do, their service to the Commonwealth and the careers that come from working in the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps.

On this episode, I speak with Michael Piaskowski. Mike is the manger of the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps.

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It’s 1910 and Anthony Wayne Cook has just inherited his family’s land. Over the last 80 years, the Cook family had made their money off the land. It started with his grandfather John Cook - who purchased the land in 1828. He built a sawmill on the property to process the timber he was harvesting from the forest. 

Andrew Cook – Anthony’s father - would go on to build three sawmills, one flouring mill, one planning mill, a boat scaffold, several dwellings and a store on the property. While much of the beautiful landscape had been forested, some of the most stunning examples of ancient forests remained. 

Andrew passes away in 1891 and now it’s Anthony’s turn to take over the family business. But he had plans of his own. Anthony Cook wanted to preserve the 300-year-old towering hemlocks on his land for future generations. He wanted everyone to sit at the alter of the so-called “Forest Cathedral.” 

Over the next 16 years, Anthony Cook and others campaigned to preserve this magnificent landscape. In the 1920s, the Cook Forest Association was formed to save the few areas of surviving old growth timber.

Endorsed by national natural resource groups and Governor Gifford Pinchot, the association raised $200,000, which helped the commonwealth purchase 6,055 acres from A. Cook Sons Company in 1927 for $640,000.

Cook Forest became the first Pennsylvania state park acquired to preserve a natural area and was later designated a National Natural Landmark. 

Now, we have the Cook Forest State Park. with its 11 different old growth forest areas. It’s been called “The Best Old-Growth Forest” in America.

On this episode, I speak with Dale Luthringer. Dale is the environmental educational specialist at Cook Forest State Park.

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In the 1930s, a beautiful forest in northeast Pennsylvania was set to become a national park. Which made sense. The area was special, even to those that purchased the land to timber it.

In a time when forests across the Commonwealth were being clear cut to feed the growing nation of raw materials, this forest received some reprieve. As a result, 300-year-old trees were allowed to continue to grow – providing the forest with mature trees and the viewing public with examples of ancient forests.

These magnificent trees stood 100-feet tall with diameters of almost four feet. But between these arboreal giants hid a collection of natural wonders found nowhere else in Pennsylvania. 

Two creek branches cut through deep gorges creating a series of unbelievable waterfalls. These waterfalls united and flowed through a glen among massive pines, hemlocks and oaks. 

Unfortunately, World War II brought an end to the plan to make it a national park. However, thousands of acres were purchased in the 1940s to preserve this incredible landscape and its otherworldly glens. 

In 1969, the glens became a registered National Natural Landmark and was later made a State Park Natural Area in 1993. We now know this property as Ricketts Glen State Park. 

Ricketts Glen reminds me of a quote I once heard. "And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul." That’s how many feel when they visit this special place. That is, if the park isn’t filled with other people trying to do the same thing. 

On this episode, I speak with Scott Wilson. Scott is the manager of the Ricketts Glen State Park. 

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Welcome, fellow explorers. My name is Christian Alexandersen and I’m the host of Hemlocks to Hellbenders, a podcast highlighting Pennsylvania’s parks, forests and great outdoors.

We have an incredible lineup of parks, forests, guests and topics that we will be exploring during our third season in 2025. Park and forest managers, outdoor educators, historians, authors, conservationists and recreationalists are just some of the guests that will be sharing their passion and expertise with us this season. 

The topics that’ll be discussed cover a wide range of areas including outdoor recreation, conservation, historical figures, indigenous peoples, backpacking, plant and wildlife management, volunteerism and so much more.

If you love discovering Pennsylvania’s wonderful natural habitats, this is the podcast for you. We’ll help you plan trips and find hidden gems throughout Pennsylvania’s stunning public lands. 

I created Hemlocks to Hellbenders in 2023 to inspire listeners to spend time in Pennsylvania’s parks and forests, to advocate for their preservation and to make the outdoors a more welcoming place for everyone. We hope you’ll join us in that mission.

I’m also excited to announce that we have four sponsors for our third season – the Keystone Trails Association, Purple Lizard, the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundations and Sisters’ Sunflowers. You’re going to be learning about their awesome services and products throughout the year.

Our third season kicks off on Jan. 1 with an episode on Ricketts Glen State Park – Pennsylvania’s waterfall oasis. I look forward to sharing our new guests and episodes with you in 2025.

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In September of 2022 before leaving office, then Gov. Tom Wolf announced the creation of three new state parks. Susquehanna Riverlands in York County, Big Elk Creek in Chester County and Vosburg Neck in Wyoming County. 

While these new state parks were quickly opened following the announcement, they have not taken their final form. Before they can be completed – or really before they even start – these parks must go through a rigorous master planning process with numerous phases. 

There’s the planning phase, the design phase, the engineering phase and the construction phase. But in between those phases and additional processes, the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources must seek public input, hold public forums and receive feedback from various stakeholders. 

The opening of the state parks to the public was the easy part. But, now’s the hard part. The amount of questions that must be answered and properly addressed can be stagging. 

Our season finale is meant to let listeners know when the various phases will be complete, what sort of activities and camping options will be available and what the future holds for our three newest parks. And for this large task I wanted to go straight to the source. 

On this episode, I speak with John Hallas. John is Director of Pennsylvania’s Bureau of State Parks. 

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In the early 20th Century, Americans had become alarmed at the disappearing forests in the eastern United States. Whether through private land purchases, deforestation, mining or other activities, the beautiful forests of the east were vanishing.

Where once stood primeval forests of giant eastern hemlocks now stood stumps. As a result, wildfires spread through these devastated lands. Waterways were polluted. And little of Penn’s Woods remained. 

Thankfully, lawmakers listened to the alarm bells of conservationists and in 1911 passed the Weeks Act. Name after Massachusetts Congressman John Weeks, the legislation allowed the use of federal funding to purchase forest land for conservation in the eastern United States.

The legislation – which was signed into law by President Howard Taft -- is one of the most successful land conservation efforts in United States history. And, it was thanks to this law that we have the Allegheny National Forest.

Created in 1923, the Allegheny National Forest spans over half a million acres in northwestern Pennsylvania. The sheer size of the forest is incredible. At just over 800 square miles, the national forest is over three quarters the land size of Rhode Island. 77.5 percent, actually.

This spectacular piece of public land offers a sanctuary for outdoor adventurers, wildlife lovers and history buffs alike. Whether you’re seeking the thrill of hiking over 200 miles of trails, the serenity of fishing in pristine lakes or the majesty of the towering trees and diverse wildlife, this forest has something for everyone.

On this episode, I speak with Jamie Feikles. Jamie is the Recreation Program Manager at Allegheny National Forest. 

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On this – the Halloween episode – of the podcast, we’re going to be exploring the many tales of ghosts, creatures, hauntings, cryptid sightings, unexplained phenomenon, legends and folk tales that have a history in Pennsylvania’s parks and forests.

From the ghost sightings at Greenwood Furnace State Park to the Kecksburg UFO incident in Forbes State Forest, we’re going to be hearing stories and sometimes first-hand accounts of frightening events from over the years.  

These sorts of stories have always held a special place in my heart. When I was a bored teenager looking to escape my dull suburban hometown, I’d load up my car with friends at night and go exploring. The latest copy of Weird New Jersey in hand, we’d go to cemeteries, abandoned hospitals and all manner of supposedly haunted places looking for something, anything, that would scare us.

That tradition – known as legend tripping – is as popular today as it was when I was growing up 20 years ago. Teenagers – and plenty of adults - are looking to stories of the past to fill their lives with a little bit of mystery. And in a place as big and as diverse as Pennsylvania, there’s plenty stories that’ll make your hair stand up. 

Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, these tales will leave you questioning the boundaries of reality and wondering what might be hiding just out of sight, right here in Pennsylvania.

Our guides for this journey are Brendon Perry and Nic Pennsylvania, hosts of The Ghost Furnace Podcast.

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Those visiting Hickory Run State Park in the Pocono Mountains should expect to see something they’ve never see before. In the northeast corner of the park, formed by millions of years of glacial movement is the Boulder Field. 

At 400 feet by 1,800 feet, this vast, rocky landscape is a geological marvel. The field is made up of tightly packed sandstone boulders, ranging in size from small stones to massive rocks that weigh several tons. Some of the boulders are 26 feet long.

The Boulder Field’s appearance is striking because of its flatness and the absence of vegetation over the large area. It looks like something you’d on the moon or some distant planet. 

The site was formed over 20,000 years ago during the last Ice Age, when repeated freeze-thaw cycles caused the sandstone to fracture and break apart, leaving behind this stunning rocky expanse.

Because of its preserved state, the Boulder Field offers a rare glimpse into the geological processes that shaped northeastern Pennsylvania. This National Natural Landmark begs to be explored by those visiting the park. 

On this episode, I speak with Megan Fedor and Jake Smith. Megan and Jake are environmental education specialists at Hickory Run State Park.

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There’s just something about mushrooms that so are cool. I can’t really explain it. They come in all shapes, sizes, and colors, often looking like they belong in a fairy tale or another planet.

They transform any landscape with their mysterious, almost magical appearance. They are not plants or animals but belong to a fascinating kingdom of their own. They thrive in the most unexpected places. They can taste delicious or they can kill you.

They’re just awesome. But developing a hobby in mycology can seem a bit daunting for a beginner. There are thousands of mushroom species, and many look similar, making it difficult to identify them accurately. Some edible mushrooms have toxic look-alikes, so learning the differences requires careful study.

Luckily, there are groups out there to welcome beginners to this great hobby. The Philadelphia Mycology Club is one such group. Founded in 2018, the club includes a diverse group of novice and experienced mycophiles. 

On this episode, I speak with Sam Bucciarelli. Sam is the president of the Philadelphia Mycology Club.

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This episode is sponsored by the Keystone Trails Association.

Most people never know how much volunteer work goes into their favorite hiking trail. Countless hours are spent breaking trails, cutting back brush, moving rocks, building steps, preventing water erosion and blazing trails.

Then, after the trail is built, even more hours are spent maintaining it. When wind knocks down trees, they need to be cleared out. When invasive species develop, they need to be removed. When the painted blazes fade, they need to be repainted. Hundreds of hours can go into a single trail. 

Now imagine, being responsible for maintaining hundreds of miles of trails throughout Pennsylvania. That’s what the Keystone Trails Association does. 

Since 1956, KTA has worked hard to provide, protect, preserve and promote recreational hiking trails and hiking opportunities in Pennsylvania. The volunteer-directed public service organization is made up of a federation of membership organizations and individuals.

2024 marks the 40th year of the organization’s Trail Care Program. This incredible program helps maintain Pennsylvania’s extensive system of hiking trails. They maintain trails like the Mid-State Trail, Chuck Keiper Trail, Allegheny Front Trail, Loyalsock Trail, Standing Stone Trail and a portion Appalachian Trail. 

But KTA is much more than just a trail maintenance club, it also serves as the statewide voice of the hiking trail community and trail advocate in the state capital. 

KTA also hosts a number of amazing events that include trail races, hiking weekends, first aid classes, backpacking trips, webinars, guided hikes and much more. 

I’m most excited about their upcoming Keystone Hiking and Outdoor Weekend from Oct. 18 to 20th in the Susquehanna Riverlands. During this three-day event, participants will have the opportunity to go on hikes, take classes, tour the Susquehanna, learn from outdoor experts, backpack and so much more.

This exciting weekend gives participants the chance to explore, learn and connect in a stunning landscape. 

I’ll be hosting a trivia and smores event at 8pm on Oct. 18th at the Susquehannock State Park Ballfield Pavilion. Come test out your knowledge of Pennsylvania’s parks, forests, trails and waterways or just grab a smore!

Be sure to visit KTA-hike.org to register and sign up for individual events.

On this episode, I speak with Brook Lenker and Haley Feaster. Brook is the executive director and Haley is the manager of communications and development at KTA.

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For thousands of years, the land that would become Pennsylvania was dominated by dense, ancient forests that stretched as far as the eye could see. Towering trees such as white oaks, chestnuts and hemlocks formed a vast green canopy that covered hundreds of miles.

The forests were such an integral part of this landscape that it was named Pennsylvania by King Carles the Second. Penn – in honor of Sir William Penn – and Sylvania - from the Latin silva meaning woods. Penn’s Woods. 

But as the Commonwealth grew and the United State developed as a nation, those spectacular trees would become one of Pennsylvania’s greatest resources. 

And after decades of clear cutting millions of acres of forests, only a few hundred acres of old growth forests remained by the early 1900s. Pennsylvania's natural landscape was devastated. Wildfires spread across the land. Riverbanks were eroded and flooding occurred. Our land – effectively destroyed.

Something needed to be done. Scientists, conservationists and state officials created strategies to develop and protect forests for future generations. It took the planting of millions of trees, passing legislation and a combined effort of local, state and federal government to bring us to where we are today – a vibrant, thriving Pennsylvania ecosystem.

The story of Pennsylvania’s natural landscape is one of abundance, exploitation and then rebirth. And I have never seen that story told better than by the Pennsylvania Lumber Museum.

Located in Ulysses, this awesome museum is dedicated to preserving the history and heritage of Pennsylvania's lumber industry. It's a place where history comes alive through hands-on exhibits, live demonstrations, and a deep dive into the lives of the people who worked in one of Pennsylvania’s most significant industries.

On this episode, I speak with Josh Roth. Josh is the site administrator for the Pennsylvania Lumber Museum.

Be sure to check out and support our sponsors for the 2024 season:

Keystone Trails Association
KTA is dedicated to providing, preserving, protecting and promoting recreational hiking trails and hiking opportunities in Pennsylvania. Use code "HELLBENDERS" to receive $5 off a yearly membership.

Purple Lizard Maps
Purveyors of incredibly detailed, highly curated, and waterproof trail maps of Pennsylvania's state forests. Find them at your local outfitters, bike shops, and bookstores or visit PurpleLizard.com.

Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation
The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation began in 1999 as a statewide nonprofit organization to provide a voice for the Commonwealth’s 124 state parks and 2.2 million acres of forest land. They rally volunteers, raise funds, and advocate for these precious lands. Join the movement at PAParksandForests.org to preserve and enjoy our outdoor treasures.

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The vast majority of Pennsylvania’s state parks are easy to drive to. That’s one of the reasons our parks are so accessible to residents and visitors. They’re located on paved roads and can often be found just a few minutes from a highway. 

But then there are parks that are not so easy to get to. They’re the ones that can only be explored using gravel roads. Leaving the smooth pavement behind and venturing onto gravel roads is like stepping into a different world, especially when heading toward the hidden gems of state parks.

And on this episode, our adventure begins in Centre County. Gravel roads lead to the heart of two state parks in particular – Poe Paddy and Poe Valley State Parks. The rugged terrain and sometimes challenging gravel roads reveal these secluded spots that paved roads simply can't reach.

To the north is Poe Paddy State Park, a trout angler’s paradise. To the south is Poe Valley State Park, a rugged mountain getaway. 

Their close proximity giving visitors a chance to explore two great parks in a day. Time spent at one of Poe Paddy’s Adirondack shelters or Poe Valley’s cabins will serve as a homebase for a memorable weekend in the woods for anyone willing to take these gravel roads. Away from crowds. Away from the noise. And away from paved roads.  

On this episode, I spoke with Joshua Bruce and Kylie Orndorf. Josh is the park manager and Kylie is the environmental education specialist at Poe Paddy and Poe Valley State Parks.

Be sure to check out and support our sponsors for the 2024 season:

Keystone Trails Association
KTA is dedicated to providing, preserving, protecting and promoting recreational hiking trails and hiking opportunities in Pennsylvania. Use code "HELLBENDERS" to receive $5 off a yearly membership.

Purple Lizard Maps
Purveyors of incredibly detailed, highly curated, and waterproof trail maps of Pennsylvania's state forests. Find them at your local outfitters, bike shops, and bookstores or visit PurpleLizard.com.

Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation
The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation began in 1999 as a statewide nonprofit organization to provide a voice for the Commonwealth’s 124 state parks and 2.2 million acres of forest land. They rally volunteers, raise funds, and advocate for these precious lands. Join the movement at PAParksandForests.org to preserve and enjoy our outdoor treasures.

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Hosting, production and editing: Christian Alexandersen
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Graphics: Matt Davis