Brave Enough To Try

Conversation with Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey | Overcoming fear and self-doubt: A guide to pursuing your dreams.

October 25, 2023 Cindy Moore
Brave Enough To Try
Conversation with Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey | Overcoming fear and self-doubt: A guide to pursuing your dreams.
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode of the Brave Enough to Try podcast, host Cindy interviews Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey, an abstract artist, transformational coach for creatives, author, podcaster, and organizational psychologist. 

Dr. Ramsey shares her journey from pursuing a traditional career path to starting her own business. She introduces her five-step "Painting Your Path Framework" for turning dreams into reality and discusses overcoming fear and self-doubt. Cindy and Dr. Ramsey also discuss the importance of self-care, time management, and maintaining relationships while pursuing personal goals. They emphasize the importance of remembering one's purpose and the people they serve.

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Speaker 1 (00:00:00) - Hello my beautiful friends. It's Cindy, your host of the Brave Enough to Try podcast. I know it's been a minute since I've uploaded an episode and to be honest, I've missed you so much. But we've had so many things happening behind the scenes in both life and in business. But I will update you all on all of those changes on our brand new episode coming to you next week, and I'm going to let you in on all the upcoming changes and all the updates, which to be honest, I am so very excited about. But for now, I wanted to release the last episode of our summer series that I never got a chance to get out into the world, and it's a great one with a very dear guest, and we talk about chasing your wildest dreams and pursuing your creative callings because you, my friends, are worth it. Hey, it's Cindy and you're listening to the Brave Enough to Try podcast, a show created to provide you with helpful life and small business tips, as well as encouragement and inspiring conversations with friends that I've made along the way, so that you can be inspired to be brave enough to chase after your wildest dreams.

Speaker 1 (00:01:02) - Hey, it's Cindy, your host of the Brave Enough to Try podcast. Today we have a very special guest with us, Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey. Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey is an abstract artist, transformational coach for creatives, author, podcaster, and organizational psychologist with a passion for helping creatives design life on their terms. The heart of her work beats at the intersection of leadership, development, creativity, and wellness. Through her five step framework, she empowers individuals to paint their path through her various events like Employee to Creative Entrepreneur and the Creative Abundant Leadership Summit, Clarissa has helped thousands of aspiring creative entrepreneurs experience their own breakthroughs, helping them to design their next chapter outside of corporate welcome. Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey, I'm so excited to have you on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:01:51) - Oh, thank you so much, Cindy, for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited that.

Speaker 1 (00:01:56) - You're here, too. I've been looking forward to this all weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:01:59) - So awesome. Me too. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:02:02) - To start off the interview, I always ask our guests a very similar question and that is if you could share with us a little bit of your timeline.

Speaker 1 (00:02:11) - Was this a traditional route for you, or did you always know that you wanted to pursue your own business?

Speaker 2 (00:02:17) - Yes, such a great question. And the answer is no. At first I did not really think about working for myself. And so I'm a daughter of immigrants. My parents came here from the Philippines to pursue their own path as medical doctors, and just growing up in the traditional Filipino Catholic like family lifestyle. Um, I just grew up wanting to make my parents proud and making them happy. And I'll never forget, my mom asked me that question that all kids get asked, which is, what do you want to be when you grow up? And also as a child, I did have that creative spark. I loved to paint and to draw. So I told my mom, I said, well, I want to be an artist, I love painting, I love creating, and she just kind of laughed and said, oh child, you can't make money as an artist. You'll be rich and famous after you pass away like Pablo Picasso.

Speaker 2 (00:03:28) - So maybe it's, you know, maybe you should think about something else. And as a child, that was so devastating to me because I thought, wow, this is what I really want to do. And I was just a little heartbroken, but I didn't get it until I grew up that my mom was just trying to protect me. She is not an artist. She doesn't know anybody who's an artist or who has made a living doing that. So I get it as an adult, but as a kid, it kind of made me really sad. So long story longer, I, I did art as a hobby on the side, but really I was so focused on getting good grades, going to a good school, getting that great job, and. But also the creative side. It was kind of like an internal conflict. So growing up, I guess was traditional in that I did those things. I went to a good school. I got okay grades and I just I took the first job that that I got, which was in retail management.

Speaker 2 (00:04:48) - And, and over my career, it was a series of pivots of okay, that career was okay, but this is not where I want to be. So I did that multiple, multiple times until I also discovered that coaching was going to be a path for me. And that's also when I decided, you know what, eventually I want to work for myself. So it's been a long journey getting here, and it's been through just a series of let's try this out, let's test out this career. And I've had many from retail to working for HR, like an HR consulting group to doing graphic design to being an internal coach. And plus other odd jobs and to finally getting to where I am today.

Speaker 1 (00:05:47) - Oh, that's such a beautiful story. As you were talking, I related to so much that you said I. I'm a first generation college graduate too. And so, you know, my dad's education career went up to sixth grade and my mom's went up to fourth grade. And so growing up, it was very important for my family, for us to have a plan, you know, we're going to grow up.

Speaker 1 (00:06:10) - And we were going to go to school and we were going to get jobs and we were going to do that. And I'm the first in the family to get my master's. And I excelled in my career. In my teaching career, I mean, I excelled, I loved it, I did so many wonderful things in it. But just like you said, there was this internal struggle. I just felt like creativity kept knocking at the door and it kept popping up in every opportunity. And I just had to kind of take the leap of faith. And it's scary, you know, especially, yes, when your family's coming to you and they're like, are you sure you want to do this? You know, everything's so safe and you have so many great things happening for you. But sometimes I think when that internal struggle is so strong, you have to really stop and listen, because I think it's just trying to tell you something. So I relate to that. And it's so beautiful to see that you've flourished throughout your career.

Speaker 1 (00:07:03) - You've tried many things, and it finally led you to the path that you're on. So thanks for sharing that.

Speaker 2 (00:07:09) - Yeah, yeah, thanks for letting me share it.

Speaker 1 (00:07:12) - Thank you. I wanted to ask you as you as you're pursuing this, this, this venture, what has inspired you to pursue your dreams and your passions as a coach? If you can share a defining moment or experience that really motivated you to take action.

Speaker 2 (00:07:30) - Oh my gosh, such a great question. So I, I finally so I went back to school for my higher education and getting a master's and a doctorate and pursuing organizational psychology. I thought, you know what? I did my undergrad for my parents, and it was when I worked at the Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf. I was their internal graphic designer for a number of years. And this consultant came in and she basically just like had this. I'm just going to call it an intervention, organizational intervention, where she would just ask us just what was our experience like working here? What have we like? What are we not like? And I just thought, wow, this this lady's job is to do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08:23) - This is fascinating. And so that is kind of what got me started on, you know what? In my undergrad program, the one class that I absolutely loved was organizational behavior. And it was a new field because I've been yeah, I've been out of college for a very, very long time. But anyway, it was a new field and I just didn't have that self-confidence to to break into it for whatever reason. But it was always there in the back of my mind. And so fast forward many years later, I'm in this company, and I was just loving what this lady did. And so I had a chat with her, and then I had a chat with our HR director, and I just decided, I'm going to go back to school and I'm really going to pursue this, this body of work. That I'm really interested in. And that was really like a defining moment for me to make that shift into this whole world. And as part of the program, coaching was part of that curriculum.

Speaker 2 (00:09:36) - And I should also share, like so as a child, I had a love. I've always had a love for art, but I've also had a love for helping people, connecting with people, making sure people felt heard and seen, and helping them with their goals too. And that's just always who I have been in my whole life. So I learned about coaching through my program. I also took an additional coaching course outside of my doctorate program, and that is also was another defining moment where I learned about all the types of coaching that that you could, that you could do and pursue. And so it was those moments that really made me say, you know what? Eventually I want to work for myself as a coach. But first let me work in an organization to get my feet wet. And so that's kind of how it all happened.

Speaker 1 (00:10:41) - Yeah, very organic to I feel like it was much I feel like it was a very sustainable way of doing it. You know, you get your feet wet like you said, but you also get to experience it.

Speaker 1 (00:10:50) - And so then you can take your experience at and apply it to all the people that you're eventually going to help or eventually that you've helped. I'm sure. Yes. I want to ask you, as you were growing your business or as you were beginning your business, could you walk us through the steps that you took, you know, to to make it a realization? So I know that you said that you worked in an organization first, but could you walk us through the moment that you decided that you wanted to venture out and potentially make your dreams and passion? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:11:24) - Right. So another such a great question. So I have what I call my five step framework. I call it the painting or path framework. And it is just what I have done to achieve anything that I've wanted to. And so that first step is to dream. I don't think as adults we take enough time to just use our imagination and just to come up with a picture of, gosh, wouldn't it be cool if I could do this? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (00:11:58) - Let me just dream. And really, using all the senses, like, what do I see? What do I hear? Who's with me? How am I feeling?

Speaker 1 (00:12:08) - Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (00:12:09) - What you know, what can I, what can I taste? What can I touch? Like you know what's in front of me and really taking the time to do it and not squashing it like, oh, that's just unrealistic because I think we hear that so many times, especially as creatives. So it's like, just dream, just take the time to dream. So that's step one. Step two is to decide. Decide that this dream is worth pursuing, that you are worth pursuing this and making this a reality. So that is step two. Step three is to put a plan together and buy a plan. I don't mean like you have to. You don't need to have this whole complete business plan because probably by the time you finish writing it, something has changed. So just just to have a few steps, a few, a few pieces that you can start taking tangible action on.

Speaker 2 (00:13:16) - Maybe it's doing some research, maybe it's reaching out on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, social media has just honestly been so amazing. I know a lot of people hate it, but this is how we connected. Absolutely. And there's so much power in it. So putting some kind of plan together for yourself to get just to give you an idea of where to go, then the next step is to be brave. It's all about taking that uncomfortable action. Maybe you even kind of dread it. But, um, there's a phrase that Brooke Hestia, she's a she's a life coach. She says you need to do some dread sprints because your dream is is a dream right now. And to bring it into reality, you get to do things that maybe sometimes you don't want to do. And that is really the secret sauce, is to just be brave and take a step. No. No matter how small, no matter how big. And then after you've done that for, you know, you've taken some steps.

Speaker 2 (00:14:29) - Step five in my process is to reflect. And I think this is also where people they don't do enough of this. It's like, let me just go, go, go go go burn now and stop. Or I think maybe people like. Think overthink too much. So really, when it comes to reflection, just ask yourself like what did I learn? What went well and what did it go so well that I can I can do again differently? Yeah. And just let it be that you don't need to add any meaning to anything. But like what worked? What didn't. What did I learn about myself? And I would also say, how can I make this fun? Because I think when we're pursuing things that we've never done before, it can be scary. It can be taxing, it can be overwhelming. But if we can also come back to okay. How can how can I make this fun? I had this dream and my dream was something light and fun and vivid and joyful.

Speaker 2 (00:15:39) - So how can I infuse that into the next? The next be brave step. So that's that's the framework. And then at the foundation is adopting a growth mindset. And I don't know if you've read the book Cindy Mindset by Dr. Carol Dweck.

Speaker 1 (00:16:00) - I have not.

Speaker 2 (00:16:01) - Is so good. And what I like about it is it's a small book and it's full of stories. Oh, and basically the concept is with enough time, effort and the and like feedback from people who can help you, you can do anything.

Speaker 1 (00:16:20) - You love that you can do.

Speaker 2 (00:16:22) - Anything. Yes. And then the other, the other foundational piece is to take care of yourself because I'm guessing this may be true for you. It was so true for me when I shifted out of corporate and started working on my own business. That became a 24 over seven.

Speaker 1 (00:16:42) - Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (00:16:43) - Yeah. I went from a 9 to 5 to a 24 seven, and it got to the point where my my husband was like, you need to break away from this computer.

Speaker 2 (00:16:52) - You need to step away. Yes. And he was so right. So on this journey, on whatever journey you're on, don't forget to fill up your cup and do things that energize you.

Speaker 1 (00:17:04) - Absolutely. That's so beautifully said. Yes, I see the struggle in the community and the struggle for me as well. There's so many truths to everything that you've just said that I think simplifying like like your frameworks, I love that it's it's a process that you can you can go through. It's simplified. You're not overthinking. You're not over. You're not throwing too much at yourself at once. And I think it's so important, especially for the community who's listening? To understand that you are worthy. It is possible. You must fill up your cup. You must take care of yourself in the process. And for me, the biggest takeaway too is when we start a business, it's so easy to become the business, you know, 24 over seven like you said. But it is important to separate yourself from what you're doing so that you're not tied to the you know, you're not tied to that value of like, I don't have customers, I don't have clients, I don't have this.

Speaker 1 (00:17:59) - I'm not good enough. You know, those are two separate entities. You know, there's there's ways to work around it. But everything that you just said was so beautifully said that it gave me goosebumps. And honestly, it was very inspired. Very.

Speaker 2 (00:18:12) - Oh, thanks, Cindy.

Speaker 1 (00:18:13) - I love that. I, I think it's important for people to understand that you're never too old to dream. And it reminds, as you were talking about, that it reminded me of when I was an art teacher, as an art teacher for eight years. And the thing that would crush my spirit is it was time to take the artwork home, and my kids would say, miss em. This is they used to call me miss em. Oh, can you keep my artwork when I take it home? My parents are just going to throw it away. And I was like, oh my gosh. And they're like, well, yeah. You know, they say it's fun, but you know, it's not it's not forever kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:18:50) - And I'm like, well, how does that make you feel? And they're like, well, it makes me sad because it makes me feel like they don't like what I'm, you know what I'm doing. Yeah. It made me realize that as adults, we see everything through the adult lens. And we forget sometimes that when you're a child, like, what you say to them is going to affect them in a different way because they don't have the capacity or the mentality that we do. And so I kept everything. And honestly, on the last day, you know, my fifth graders would be like, did you keep my so-and-so from first grade? I'm like, yeah. And I had it all organized by year. And I would show it to them and they're like, I can't believe you kept it. Miss them. And I'm like, I want you to know that it's important to me what you did. And even if no one else tells you your ideas, your imagination, your creativity, that is so important to me.

Speaker 1 (00:19:36) - And it it matters to me. And I think it's so important for them. But it's also so important for us as adults. We are allowed to dream and we're allowed to dream big, and we're allowed to have imaginations, and we're allowed to think the unthinkable because it's our life, you know? And I think I'm so used to people telling us, well, you can't do that. Well, you can't do that. That's not going to happen. And it's so amazing when you start to prove people wrong. Not because you're not with the intent of like, I'm going to show you, but with the intent of like, here is my dream and I believe in myself enough to attain it. And when you start to attain it, it's amazing what happens, because then other people start to believe in the process. They're like, whoa, wait a minute. If she can do it, then maybe possibility that we can do it too.

Speaker 2 (00:20:22) - But beautiful story and what a gift. What a I'm just going to say a luxury that those kids had you as their art teacher.

Speaker 1 (00:20:34) - Yeah, I do miss them. I miss them every day. And you want to know the hardest part for me on my last year was the kids would be like, why are you leaving this? And don't you love us? And I'm like, baby, oh my gosh, nothing to do with you. I love you to the moon and back times infinity. It is just miss him is starting a new adventure. And they'd be like, oh like like, you know, people going to the moon. And I'm like, like people going to the moon sometimes just have to go on a new adventure and just like, just like they tie up their worth with you leaving, you know, like they thought that I was leaving because of them or because I didn't care for them. I think we do the same thing. We tie up our worth in the things that we want, and when they don't work out, we love ourselves less because we think that we're not worthy enough to have those things.

Speaker 1 (00:21:16) - So I do think that there is there is is it's a mental blocks. I do think that it's something that we have to work on, even as entrepreneurs, like we can't take those things personal because it's not really about us, you know. Yeah. Always tell myself that, like, don't take it personal. Maybe those people were just not aligned for you. And that's okay. There's a lesson to be learned here. You know, you reflect on it. There's a lesson to be learned here. What worked, what didn't, and then what can I take from this to keep moving forward?

Speaker 2 (00:21:47) - Yes. Oh my gosh. So true.

Speaker 1 (00:21:50) - I did want to ask you, since we were kind of a little bit we mentioned some struggles. Um, what are some of the struggles? I'm sorry. Let me rephrase this. Many individuals obviously in this field are going to struggle with fear and self-doubt when it comes to pursuing their dreams. They're just going to be fearful. How did you personally deal with these emotions, and what advice would you give to others who are maybe facing similar challenges?

Speaker 2 (00:22:16) - Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:22:17) - Um, yes. And I will say that, you know, honestly, fear and self-doubt don't go away 100%. Well, I have never met anybody who who doesn't have either of those things. So I'm just going to say I don't think it ever.

Speaker 1 (00:22:33) - It was away.

Speaker 2 (00:22:34) - And I think, excuse me. If we can just accept that, like just accept anytime you're doing something new, anytime you're putting yourself out there especially. And I'm, I'm an introvert. So. The being myself. Comfortable as myself. On social media, on if I'm going live, if I'm doing an event like there's that element too. But at the same time it's like, okay. It's there. And I also want to say that fear, if you can look at fear as false evidence appearing real, that's what fear stands for. False evidence appearing real. You. You have already done so many successful things. If you went to school at all, in any capacity. You have achieved something great if you are a mom.

Speaker 2 (00:23:41) - You birthed another human being. That. Is a miracle. If you're raising kids, if you got up today and put on an outfit, you use your creativity. So we we all have had success at something. And that's what I remind myself. That's what I remind my clients. Keep a list of your accomplishments to remind you of what you have already done, because you have already. Achieved so much if you're just willing to look. Look at your life and not compare yourself to somebody who has maybe been on the journey for like ten years. But just think about all the wonderful things that you have already accomplished and start with that. And really the antidote to fear and self-doubt. I hate to say it. It's by taking that uncomfortable action. Absolutely. Yeah. And just letting it be like, okay, I remember and I share this story a lot. I remember the first time going live in my Facebook community, and I probably looked like a robot. I probably sounded like a robot. I even had a friend who, you know, has been with me on this journey, this entrepreneurial journey.

Speaker 2 (00:25:11) - And she said, wow, Clarissa, like I see you now and how you interact now on your lives. What a what a vast difference from the first time I saw you go live. And yeah, that feedback is a little cringe. It's like, ooh, you saw how much I sucked. But you know what? We all start out that way. Well, like anything you're doing for the first time. Like, think about when you first wrote a bicycle, did you? I needed training wheels. I didn't get it, like, without them. So we all have to start somewhere and just know that you have already achieved so much. Lean into that. And just remember that fear is false evidence appearing real failure is a first attempt in learning. So if you can look at it that way, then I think anything's possible.

Speaker 1 (00:26:13) - Oh my goodness. I'm speechless because I'm listening to you and I'm I'm taking it all in. And I think it's so like I think it's so important to listen to it for myself.

Speaker 1 (00:26:23) - So I can only imagine the value of our listeners right now. I'm sure that they're getting goosebumps. Like, I'm getting goosebumps as I'm listening to you. Um, fear. And just being scared is never going to go away, just like you said. And it reminds me of an Elizabeth Gilbert book I can't remember the name of. It is a big magic. Yes. Big magic. Yes. One of.

Speaker 2 (00:26:44) - My favorites.

Speaker 1 (00:26:44) - Yes. And she talks about how just instead of letting it take the driver's seat, you just got to move it over to the passenger seat and just got to let it got to say, I know you're here. I acknowledge you, but I'm not going to let you lead. I'm not going to let you be in control. I'm still in control. So it's this idea of coexisting together but not letting it lead you or not letting it be in charge of you, understanding that it's there for a reason. But still, like you said, leaning into the uncomfortableness, really diving in and think that that is something that everybody needs to be aware of and love the way that you structured failures.

Speaker 1 (00:27:23) - Your first.

Speaker 2 (00:27:24) - It's in learning. Learning I love, yeah, first attempt in learning. And also Liz Gilbert. I'm not going to curse on your show. But she says eat. That's sandwich. Yeah. Kind of eat your s sandwich because it's hey, you're just learning. You're just trying something new. And I think Seth Godin talks about this too. You're going to make you're going to make a lot of crap before you get to the good stuff. Keep doing it, because that's how you build that muscle is just by keep doing it. He's I think he says like. He he posts every day, or he blogs every day. And he's like, I'm sure like half of those things are are just garbage. But I'm going to keep doing it every day. And the same is true for whatever pursuit you are wanting. Whatever goal, whatever dream. Just just keep going. Don't give up.

Speaker 1 (00:28:21) - I think too, it's just the showing up, being being brave enough to show up every day.

Speaker 1 (00:28:26) - It's being consistent and it doesn't have to be perfect consistency. It could just be messy consistency. You just show up and do it. No one. I believe that you should have put pressure on yourself. Just show up and do it and do it because you love it. And don't worry about the details. Don't get bogged down on like, oh my gosh, is this perfect? Or I have to be a certain way because I think what happens is the more you show up, regardless of whether it's good or bad or imperfect or in between, as you continue to show up, something beautiful happens, your self-confidence grows, and the more you do it, the more sure you become of yourself, and the more you start to believe in yourself, and the more you start to show up for yourself and I think the value of rallying for yourself starts to coexist with everything else as well. Because I think when we start off, we start up with this mentality of like, I'm really nervous. I'm really scared.

Speaker 1 (00:29:13) - I'm going to fail at this. I don't think I'm good enough. And the more you keep doing it, the more you start to become confident and less scared and more brave and think that that's such a beautiful process. Because I've seen, just like you were talking about the first time you shut up on your life, and then now, you know, you show up. And I'm sure your community just adores and rallies behind you and I, and I love that because I feel community is so important. But I it's like in anything that we do, it's not always going to be good the first time around. But it gets better.

Speaker 2 (00:29:46) - Yeah. And if you can also focus on not yourself. That's also something that that I, that I learn to is when I'm, I'm nervous, I'm what are they going to think about me. Is this going to go. Well I'm putting all the attention on me. But is that my purpose? No, my purpose is to help other people. So just focusing in on.

Speaker 2 (00:30:13) - How do I want the audience to feel? What do I. What's my one thing? Because I don't need to overwhelm them with one thing that I can share with them. If I can help one person feel better today, then I've done my job.

Speaker 1 (00:30:27) - I love that that's so beautifully said. I think too, remembering the why, why we do it, the who we're serving and the reason behind it. I think holding on to that kind of helps us release some of the pressure, too, and I think it gives us something to look forward to in something to work towards, which I do think is a beautiful thing, because I'm, I'm very similar in the situation where how can I serve others and I want to see others succeed, and I want others to believe that they can achieve what they what they really, truly want. Because yes, that anybody can do it. One of the things that I want to do as we get close to the end of our interview is often pursuing dreams and passions do require balancing various aspects of life work, relationships, personal well-being, making sure that we're taking care of ourselves.

Speaker 1 (00:31:17) - How do you manage these different areas while also staying focused on your goals?

Speaker 2 (00:31:23) - Oh, such a great question. And yeah, because at the beginning I wasn't doing any of that, was not practicing what I preach. And I had to I had to put a start and an end time. This might sound so basic, but when you're working for yourself, you can work 24 seven. So I had to I had to like, go back and like pull my corporate, my corporate skills back into my entrepreneurial life. And so I have I have an end an end time, you know, I mean, if you're in a launch, okay, fine, you might be working extra hours, but I try and like start my day on a positive note with meditation and like a slow rising so that I'm easing into the day. And this aim at the end of the day is just okay. I'm. You know what? I'm kind of brain dead right now. This is a sign your body will also tell you.

Speaker 2 (00:32:25) - Like you just need to quit. You need to stop today. Stop working today. So how I start and how I end my day are really important. And and I need to, like, recharge throughout the day. So that could even be just standing up. It's really hot right now, so I'm not taking my walks as I normally do, but maybe it's just taking ten minutes to do some yoga and just like recentering and re grounding. So that's how I fill up my cup. And I also have planned time off. So it's summer time right now at the time of this recording. So at the end of this week, I'm going to take a little mini vacation and just be beachside for a couple of days to recharge and rejuvenate. So that's kind of how I balance out work and and like with my relationships, I'm married, but I don't have kids, but I'm married. And like I shared earlier, my husband was like, I think you have been on the computer for too long.

Speaker 2 (00:33:41) - So I also consciously like want to like at the very least, just always break away for dinner and eat together and just have that ritual because we both work from home. So it's not like I'm not seeing him all the time, but he's doing his thing. I'm doing my thing and I just want to have that time. So that's kind of how I've done it. I've just had to, like, lean into time management and really asking myself like, what are the what are the like? What are three things that I want to get done today? And if I only accomplish one, then those other two just stay on the next day until it's done. Right.

Speaker 1 (00:34:29) - Right. Oh I love time management. So important. Right? So important. Yes, I have an 11 year old and I homeschool her. And so everybody's like how how do you do it. And I tell them you have to find a schedule that works for you because everyone else's schedule is not going to be your schedule. So for me, it's I get up before she does and I do a couple of things for work that I need to do.

Speaker 1 (00:34:52) - And then from 10 to 1, it's home, school and lunch, and I take care of her and I'm with her, and I make sure that she's getting the best education that she can possibly get. And then after that, she has her activities that she does ukulele and swimming and oh my gosh. And, you know, and then I get back to work and I do the things that I need to. But it's so important to me that the minute my husband comes home at 5:00, we're both like done for the day, you know, everybody's done and we try to spend as much time together. We eat dinner together, we'll go on an evening walk together. And like you said, there are going to be times like launches or certain events that you're doing with your community that are going to take you away. But I think that's the beauty. That's like the beauty in being an entrepreneur and having your own schedule is that you can manage your time accordingly to what you need to do, and you can rework things, because I will say that this year, for me personally, being out of the classroom has been oh so like stress free.

Speaker 1 (00:35:49) - And I'm not, you know, I'm not like scared to my stomach if I have to call in or I'm not like, oh, I'm sick. But you know, because it's a very different, a very different experience when you're working for someone else and you're tied to someone else's schedule and then when you are doing yourself, I mean, granted, there's pros and cons to everything that we do, but I would never take this year and the gift of having my own schedule for granted, because it's truly a gift, and I and I'm with you. Time management is so important, and figuring out what's important to you, and then setting up those boundaries so that you can you can make time for for the things that are important to you.

Speaker 2 (00:36:30) - Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (00:36:31) - And then we're getting we're getting to the last question, and I'm actually getting really sad because I have loved talking to you today. You have just really inspired me. And I know that our listeners are going to be emailing me and asking me all types of questions about you, because I'm sure you're inspiring them.

Speaker 1 (00:36:47) - To the last question and I asked this to everybody, is if you could share one piece of advice with our audience in order to give them the courage to chase after their wildest dreams, what would it be? And it could be something that someone's told you. It could be something that you've learned from experience, something you read in a book. But if you could just give one piece of advice, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (00:37:09) - Oh, I would, I would say, you're worth it. Start with the dream and allow yourself to really paint that picture. Of what it is that you want to do. And. And the sky's the limit. The sky's the limit. You're worth it. Well, you are worth it. Your message is worth it. It's your dream is worth pursuing.

Speaker 1 (00:37:40) - It's so beautiful. So our listeners, I hope you have enjoyed this episode. And Dr. Clarissa Castillo Ramsey is 100% correct. You are worth it and your dreams are worth it. And I hope that you have the courage and the bravery to chase after them.

Speaker 1 (00:37:55) - And as always, I'm rooting for you and I will catch you on the next episode. To continue the conversation. Come join me over at Instagram, at It's cinema, or at Brave Enough to Try podcast.