Erin 0:11

Hey everybody. Here

Josh 0:12

we go. We're back on from another round. Let's pick lane. We picked a lane today. It's really amazing. First of all, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Did you have

Erin 0:24

a good. Yeah. Zoe goes back to school tomorrow, so I've got a light at the end of the tunnel. I love my child so much.

Josh 0:32

This was the eternal Christmas break.

Erin 0:34

Yeah. Three weeks is a long time. Yeah. Whose idea was that? Not a mom's.

Josh 0:39

No. Ridiculous. It's nice and warm today though. It was. Oh man. Freaking

Erin 0:43

loving it. We're in the Midwest, but it feels like we're in the, I don't know, tropics,

Josh 0:48

maybe on the West coast. They're just getting pummeled rain right now. Really? It's crazy. Are

Erin 0:53

we talking about the weather? Is that the lane we're picking?

Josh 0:55

No. Uh, we're talking about bio

Erin 0:59

energetics. Bio energetics. Switching

Josh 1:03

lanes. Lanes. Yes. Let's do it. I have to add cutie in. Tell the

Erin 1:07

podcasts everyone. You still got his number maybe.

Josh 1:10

Anyways, bioenergetic testing. Here we go. Oh man. I'm stoked to talk about this one because you know, it kind of changed my life. Yeah. Just a little bit. And now is my life. Yeah, I was

Erin 1:19

gonna say we, we talk a

Josh 1:21

lot about bioenergetics changed my life and now is my life. Yep. Well, Just like me, right? Dude, you changed my life way more than bioenergetics. I

Erin 1:29

don't bow. Oh, thanks babe. Yeah. Good thing. You married a nurse. Uh, what would you have done? Real talk died straight up.

Josh 1:35

I'm not even joking to you. I'd be dead. I would've been dead either cuz I got sick or cuz I was too crazy. Yeah,

Erin 1:40

that's true. One of two. I tamed you.

Josh 1:41

You did. You tamed and helped heal me. I did that pressure touched by an angel

Erin 1:46

man. That was my jam growing up. Did you guys watch that? Yeah, my mama loved it. Every Christian family probably watched, touched by an. Bioenergetics. Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's talk a ton about it today. Do you want me to talk nerdy to you for a minute? Do it baby. Talk nerdy to me. So bioenergetics is a way of measuring frequencies in a unit of hurts. Mm-hmm. and analyzing and analyzing frequencies. Mm-hmm. Yes. It's telling us all sorts of information. And just to demystify the frequency word. Cause I think sometimes people think that's a little

Josh 2:17

woo woo woo woo, but baba. We fly with the woo woos. We, we are pretty Woo. This isn't Woowoo very quantum physics. Yeah, yeah. This is, yeah. But, hmm. We get down with the woo woos.

Erin 2:29

Mm. Give me all that energy. Woo. Yes, but this is pretty measurable. It's just quantum physics. We know that all matter in the universe, and we talked about this in the first episode, so if you wanna know more about that, but we know all matters.

Josh 2:43

If y'all haven't listened to the first episode yet, go back what you been doing.

Erin 2:47

Why are you here? We know all matter in the universe is made up of tiny vibrating subatomic particles and therefore all. Has a frequency that's measurable. Yes, that's measurable In a unit of herz, including our beautiful complex bodies and cells, we know kind of what optimal frequencies are for certain parts of the body, and so we're able to analyze if that is coming in much higher than it needs to be. It shows that there's some stress in that area if it's coming in as much lower. Then we know that maybe that area is a little taxed or worn out or under functioning. Yeah. And there's other ways when we walk through the scan, I'll kind of be the nerdy one that talks about how each part of the scan is done bio energetically. But that's kinda the gist of it. So Good. And it is a little different than maybe conventional. Methods of healing. Sure. I think especially in the US, we are very accustomed to symptom management. Yeah. As opposed to true for sure. Healing or root cause healing. This whole pill for every Ill model, and even if you know, you're not quick to slap a pharmaceutical on every little symptom, it's still kind of our framework that we're working within often is what I find.

Josh 3:59

Yeah. I think even so in our journey, I don't know for too many, We did all of that trial and error, and I think there was some conventional medicine rabbit holes that we went down inside of that every doctor wanted to slap, get an antidepressant or bipolar pill on me. But even in the functional medicine or the holistic space, in many ways, no mal intent whatsoever, but we were kind of still not looking at the root cause of things. Right. So we went to like an adrenal fatigue specialist. We were looking at all of these things.

Erin 4:28

Well, the problem there is it's like, what's the saying? If you have a hammer, every problem's a nail, you know? Sure. So, yeah, it just depending on, never heard that saying. There you go. It's a new one. I'm pretty sure. My dad, that's a very dad phrase. Yep. Thanks dad. Good job, Bob. Yeah. So you go to an adrenal specialist, they're gonna, it's gonna say adrenal

Josh 4:46

fatigue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yada, yada. When you have a sh slew of symptoms like I did, of course, yeah. It's easy to peg. Yeah, but I, with this, we literally had tried more things than we knew were even existing at the time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So when Bioenergetics came, first of all, it did sound like woo woo or some like mlm or I was very skeptical, so sketched out. Yeah. And we were like, what the fuck is this? It's just another person trying to take our money. Yeah. Cause all we're doing is spewing money at my health. I know. Every single month it felt like it was, it's, that's what was happening. But then what started to make sense even. you know, I did, my first scan was that there was a Bioindividuality component to it. Yes. Which started to make a whole lot of sense. We can't do these blanket protocols and expect everyone to heal from them. I mean, we were doing like elimination diets, which was helpful, but not healing me. We were doing mm-hmm. smoothies and like

Erin 5:40

all these little detoxes

Josh 5:42

and Yeah. Yeah, the heavy metal detox, all these things that yeah, are gonna help some people, but they're not going to help everyone and they're not going to heal people fully down to the root cause for the majority. That's never gonna happen. Right.

Erin 5:56

What it felt like for us is we were just continually holding at bay a huge tsunami of Oh, for sure. Symptoms. Yeah. By doing all these crazy

Josh 6:03

things, and we just never knew when the tsunami was gonna hit. Yeah. Except it did every single summer. Yeah. So when we started to think of it as the peeling back the layers of the onion mm-hmm. the aha moments just flooded in. Right. And I think the hard part about, at least even in my experience, I'm so sick, I'm literally willing to do anything mm-hmm. and go through the trenches just to get me out of. but I don't know if I necessarily understood the amount of time that I would need to put into it to fully heal. Yeah. It's just not what we're accustomed to. Mm-hmm. we've got two day prime. Yeah. Microwave society we love. Yeah. You. Pop a pill. And even with Prozac, within days I was feeling stuff, maybe not for the good, but yeah, I was feeling something and so,

Erin 6:50

right. But most, yeah, most pharmaceuticals are gonna be effective within, you know,

Josh 6:54

right. 48 hours or something. It was intimidating. Especially being sick. I'm so overwhelmed, we. talk about it all the time. Mm-hmm. you were like filling my pill boxes cuz I couldn't even do that on my own. Yeah. But after that first scan, it was undeniable that one the bioindividuality existed, that my body had its own order, that it needed to go in in order to heal. Mm-hmm. And then two, the only way that I was going to not have things at bay and fully take care of them to get my body into balance was to do it on a timeline that my body needed

Erin 7:24

and wanted. Yeah. And get all the way to the root, not just peeling one or two layers deep. Getting to the source of the imbalances.

Josh 7:33

Yeah. And we'll have people on to talk about their experiences. Mm-hmm. But there's moments in the journey where you get a scan and you go through remedies, and while you're doing those remedies, you can feel a shift. Mm-hmm. and you know, that you're taking care of a root and it just fucking motivates you in ways that I cannot even remotely describe it. Yeah, yeah. And it just keeps you going. I don't even know what scan I'm on it at this point, but I was so sick and I really felt a shift at like seven scans in, but we tell most people to give it three to see, give it a chance. and then decide whether you or not you want to keep going. Mm-hmm. and completely understanding that, yeah. There's like a level of investment that exists inside of that. But I think what was so crazy to us is we're spending 30 grand a year on my health every year. Oh, this was the

Erin 8:19

most

Josh 8:20

affordable route. I healed fully in under$10,000. Yeah, yeah. Fully.

Erin 8:25

Yeah. Like if you weren't doing this for a business, if this wasn't our life now, yeah. You wouldn't need to do scans anymore.

Josh 8:32

No, no, no, no. The only reason I have, I've done so many scans, is just cause we own. But yeah, I just did the math. Yeah. And I was like, okay, even if I did 10 scans, yeah. I'm paying not even a quarter of what I was paying annually. Mm-hmm. And so that's kind of what we did is. I put together a spreadsheet, I saw how much everything was gonna cost, give or take, and we stopped doing everything else and went mm-hmm. completely headfirst into

Erin 8:57

bioenergetics. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And for those listening that aren't necessarily in the chronic illness category, but just chronic blah. Yeah. Category. This isn't to instill fear or anything. Of course. That's never my. It's kind of a pay now or pay later thing with health. Often for sure, if you are experiencing chronic fatigue, if you are having trouble sleeping or just having these kind of like nagging things that maybe are not completely derailing your entire life but are interfering with your quality of life. Gosh, do it now. I wish I would've Yeah. Like stop ignoring them. Stop slapping pharmaceuticals on every symptom. Yeah. Because that snowball is growing, whether you know it or not, and it's going downhill

Josh 9:43

fast. We unfortunately see people come to us, ask questions, even do a scan. Yeah. That aren't what we would categorize chronically ill. Yeah. In the way of like, it's completely life changing. Mm. A year later they came back to us. Yeah.

Erin 9:59

Sick. I always just wanna like shake people's shoulders, but I've just learned over and over again, people are not ready until they're ready. Yep. And sometimes that takes a rock bottom and I for sure hate that. I know. But I know it's true for my own self in different ways too. Yeah. Sometimes I just gotta hit the bottom before I'm ready to heal a thing. Yeah.

Josh 10:18

I think this is cool though, to we're starting to have contacts with professional athletes and starting to talk into those organizations. I mean, these athletes aren't chronically ill in any way, shape or form, but there's opportunity to optimize to get to their peak health. So it's not just for the chronically ill, but it's worried the life changing happens. That's for sure. And where we're focusing, obviously, cause I was chronically ill and Right. That's just been our experience. It's their passion. Yeah. I genuinely just don't want people to be, I know as sick as I was, Ever. Yeah.

Erin 10:49

It's kind of frightening how many people are out there. Yeah. Now experiencing what you had or worse. I know. I mean, I'm

Josh 10:56

like genuinely so much worse than I do. I know. It's crazy. Yeah.

Erin 11:00

But we've got tools. Should we talk about a scan? Let's do it. Okay.

Josh 11:05

Let me break down. Yes. On my side, what happens? Yeah. And then you can kind of go into the nitty gritties. Cool. So when you order a scan from Ruti, you'll get a swab and a bag to put your hair in. Literally all you need for bio energetics is a hair sample. It's a teaspoon. You can't see me, but I don't have any hair on my head. he's got a shiny dome. So you can use hair from anywhere, and if you don't have hair, you can use fingernail clippings. And then it's just a cheek swab and saliva swab. We provide you with a relabeled returned envelope, and you send that off to the testing center, and then in three weeks, results come back. The results being chronically ill, those results were hella, hella, hella, hella overwhelming It's so much information. It's even narrowed down. I was

Erin 12:00

gonna say, you don't even know the information, that we aren't selecting what you see. Otherwise it would be, it's more prioritizing. Yeah. It would just be absurd and not helpful.

Josh 12:10

No. Yeah, and it already is incredibly overwhelming. You go through overall system performances is what you

Erin 12:16

see first, and that lists out every, essentially every body system. Yeah. Locomotor, cardiovascular, immune, lymph. Yeah. All of those. And it tells you in a percentage form kind of how that area is functioning. Yeah. It breaks it down to your top three areas struggling, and then areas that are driving down system performance. So say you've got sluggish liver, your liver may pop up in that driving systems. I think

Josh 12:43

what I didn't understand as I was healing through it. Mm-hmm. is that something like that, when we're looking at a system performance, it then determines the rest of your results. Yeah. I didn't understand that.

Erin 12:56

Interesting. Wait, yeah. Tell me what you mean. You didn't understand how it correlates with the rest of the information.

Josh 13:01

So I thought that the season performances were just telling me what sucked and what didn't. Mm-hmm. and then here's the things that I needed to work on, was the rest of the results. Mm-hmm. but it's actually. the worst things in your system. Performance is what's determining how to balance. Mm-hmm. the rest of the results.

Erin 13:20

Yes. Or it's giving you kind of glimpses into how and why that system is struggling. Yeah. So,

Josh 13:27

and when I say balance, like getting my body into balance, that's another thing that took me a second to understand going into my own journey. Mm-hmm. and even we were talking to somebody the other day who's, Freaking killing it now like he's mm-hmm. healed. But what I didn't understand at the beginning was the whole goal in this is to balance my body out. Yes. Homeo sticks so it can do its shit and fight all those

Erin 13:51

little fuckers. A lot of people get fixated, like in the holistic health realm. I mean, we talk a lot about root cause and it's so important of course. And these microbes, things like Lyme and whatever else, we get so fixated on those things and they're important for sure, but a body and balance. Is going to keep all of those things under lock and key, and they're not going to wreak havoc on your body,

Josh 14:14

which is why some people may have lime and not freaking bedridden. Totally. And then others are bedridden. Right. It's just a difference of whether you're in bound or not. And then there's obviously so many different

Erin 14:25

layers. Yeah. Like you were talking about the Bioindividuality piece. Yeah. And early on in our journey, we kind of had a hunch that that was important. I remember getting your 23andme, the genetic testing, and now I realize. Yes, there are genetic predispositions for things. You know, the nps are helpful to know, but it's all just predispositioned. It's not a sentence like, it's not like because my mom had X I'm gonna have Y

Josh 14:50

just, or I have a detoxification. S nip, I'm destined for

Erin 14:54

blank. Right. We know that these genes can be turned on and off now. Right. Different environments. Lifestyle. Yeah, totally. Whatever. That

Josh 15:02

was a huge component for me to understand. Mm-hmm. because once that made sense, it was like, May pop up and I may do a pretty intense remedy or I may not. Right. And it's because my body doesn't need it. Right. It just needs support to get back into the balance. Mm-hmm. so that it can fight it.

Erin 15:19

Right. And we'll talk more about remedies towards the end, but

Josh 15:22

it, I just wanted to make sure that that was understood. Yeah. Cause I feel like that was not something I was understanding

Erin 15:26

for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. That, yeah, that's helpful.

Josh 15:28

Okay. So we have system performances. Mm-hmm. and then we go into sensitivities.

Erin 15:36

So on a bio energetic level, so the way that we test for sensitivities, and this is for food or environmental sensitivities, so things like, and there's hundreds Yes. Things like pollens, grasses, et

Josh 15:47

cetera, dairy alternatives. It Yeah, the list is

Erin 15:50

robust. It's definitely in the hundreds. Yeah. Well into the hundreds. We have it on our site. The way that we do this is we are introducing the energetic code or energetic frequency of the thing. So whether that's a food or environmental, to your samples, and then if your samples, if that frequency either jumps way up high mm-hmm. or dips way down low, that tells us that those two things are not resonating well together. Yeah. So generally that means for whatever reason, they're just not coexistent, not violent, well together, not vibrant. So generally we, but that doesn't mean eternally. No, no. They shift and not always, but usually we can kind of figure out the source of that. Say somebody is resonating and we'll talk about these later, but resonating low in the enzyme lactase. Sure. Often we see that they don't resonate well with dairy. Yeah. Right. And that makes sense there. And there's other reasons too, but it's not diagnostic, so we don't use any of the results to diagnose, say, like a food allergy or any medical condition. None of this is for

Josh 16:52

educational purposes only. Yes.

Erin 16:53

Educational purposes is always it's, it is very helpful and realistically, Food sensitivities via blood work is very expensive and ever changing. Just like bioresonance and bioenergetic testing, those sensitivities are gonna shift and change. But just coming from personal experience, I think we spent like six or$700 on food sensitivity testing before we found bioenergetics. And this is all included in the full

Josh 17:19

scan? Yeah. I mean it was six to$700 her.

Erin 17:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's helpful information. It's not everything, but it's helpful to understand. Yeah. Which foods may be causing some

Josh 17:30

Oh, yeah. For you, it's scary, accurate. That was one. It's bizarre. I mean, the whole results thing blew my mind

Erin 17:36

immediately, but every freaking scan that I do, in every consult that I do, I don't know why. For some reason I'm just an eternal skeptic of. This, even though I also just wholeheartedly believe in it and want everyone to do it. But even just today, I had a consult and at least four or five things came up where I was talking and the person was like, oh my gosh. Yeah. And they didn't put that on the form, you know? I mean,

Josh 17:56

the sensitivities are that a couple scans in. I remember eating popcorn, not on my scan, but I was sending samples in shortly. And I had the worst gas I freaking blew up our house after popcorn and I was like, I've never had a problem with popcorn. Yeah. And then the next scam pops up and there it is screaming popcorn. It's just now that resonates all this to say about sensitivities. Another thing that I learned through this process is that this isn't saying like you have to stay away from it. Obviously your body's not resonating with it. Mm-hmm. Well, how I looked at it is this is an opportunity for me to help my body. Yeah. Like popcorn. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I can fart through the night and I'll be totally fine. Your wife won't True. But if I know that's something that's bothering my body. Yeah. Why force it? Mm-hmm. to have to work in a stupid place, like mm-hmm. digesting popcorn. When it's working so hard to fight. Yes. Fucking Borrelia. Yes, exactly. And that's really why the sensitivities are important. Yeah. Overall to help you become more imbalanced. And my first scan has a scroll's worth of. Sensitivities and now I have like two. Mm-hmm.

Erin 19:06

Yeah. It's very common to somebody who's got a lot of stuff going on, is gonna have potentially more food sensitivities for a lot of reasons, but gi, leaky gut, things like that. But

Josh 19:16

environmental, yeah. Molds so many things that, I mean, when you're sick, your body's just not gonna handle as well. But there were a few things that stayed on my sensitivities throughout the entire thing. Soy being one of them. Yeah. But we had known about that before. That was something that my body wasn't vibing. Ever. Mm-hmm. and so now I'm just staying away from those small basic things. Yep. But yeah, staying away from those things only helps you as you're fighting off and

Erin 19:41

else. Yeah. I know the food one can be hard. This is coming from somebody who adores food. I is like, one of my favorite pleasures in life is eating delicious food. So I get it. If that is an area in your, the lifestyle modification thing that's really difficult for. I will say like having done things like Whole 30 and other elimination type diets, which can be very helpful. I like that the scan is unique to me. It takes a little bit of the guesswork out of it and honestly the hard work out of it. So it takes I of the guesswork out. Yes. I often will not resonate with gluten, dairy, soy, all the typical one. but for me that's a lot easier than like a full whole 30 I can do rice and just other stuff. So I guess all that to say, I get that it can be hard, but this is at least pinpointed to exactly what you need and maybe skipping a few steps of the elimination diet.

Josh 20:39

It honestly, one of my favorite parts, yeah, are scans because, I just don't like having an upset stomach. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. So I just stay away from those for my time while I'm doing my remedies and then onto the next one. Yep.

Erin 20:52

Yeah, food definitely can be medicine and I think there is for sure an element of healing and chronic illness that requires some diet modifications. Like that's just, if we're feeding our bodies' processed inflammatory stuff, it's gonna be a lot harder for our body to come into balance. But I always say it's not a forever thing.

Josh 21:13

Then the next one's nutrients. Yeah. Nutritional. Thinking

Erin 21:17

of that. Deficiencies. Yeah. Nutritional deficiencies.

Josh 21:19

One thing to say about this, I like poo-pooed this section during my healing process. We went at this pretty alone. We were kind of learning on the fly. Mm-hmm. we didn't really know anything. Not until we started Ruti and really submerged ourselves. Mm-hmm. in bioenergetics. And then all of the information that comes from that. And then you starting consults and getting certified in A, B, C, D, F, G. Did I actually recognize the importance of the nutritional imbalance section? Yeah. Like you were saying, if you're low in the enzyme, lact, Odds are high, that dairy's not gonna be vibing with you. Right. Can you talk a little bit more about the actual importance of all of those, and I don't know if you can identify the sections. Enzymes. Amino acids?

Erin 22:05

Yeah. Fatty acids, vitamins, minerals. Mm-hmm. I think that's it. Yes. It's very helpful, I think, and a lot of people are confused cuz things will resonate that we'll list something if it resonates as low, and then we'll also provide several nutritional sources of those things. There are definitely some that are very common, like on almost every scan I see several enzymes resonate as low. I think just generally as a species, our digestive systems are, yeah. Struggling. Yeah. Often I'll recommend people to try some digestive enzymes, especially if they're having GI issues. But yeah, and then I don't typically, just for the sake of time on a consult, go through each one because there's a lot of them on most scans. But sometimes people will say like, oh, I eat a lot of this. Like, why would I be low in that? And often they're either a pathogen is. eating up that on your behalf or your digestive system is struggling and stressed and not absorbing Yeah. Or assimilating nutrients like it ought to,

Josh 23:05

which was another aha moment for me. Mm-hmm. of like, yeah. No shit. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Yeah. But I was pumping mm-hmm. I was pumping things. Yeah. Like I was taking high

Erin 23:17

dose of things. Yeah. And some of it's form, like some of it's what you're taking is not. An absorbable form of a thing, but some of it is function, like your body is not able to absorb it or assimilate it, so that's very common. Yeah, and we'll see those again, if somebody is starting from square one, like they've done no work on diet or supplementation or foundational things. Yeah. Often it will be a lot of kind of nutritional supplements, drainage support on the first scan or the first round of remedies, and that feels like a. Let down. Sometimes like when people get a skin and they're like, yeah, it does. And just taking vitamins, like, no, we need to replenish where we are

Josh 23:58

because you would be royally

Erin 24:00

fucked. It went out well. You just, you just won't progress. You'll just be stuck is what, like your body. Yeah. Your body needs particular things against vitamins, minerals, yeah. In order to function, in order to detox, in order to do all these processes that are required to heal. So it's where you, that's the process to start. I know. Yeah.

Josh 24:20

It's so hard. I know. I, I. Two, three scans in, I mean, you not even remotely have to remind somebody to trust the process. Yeah. It's so true. But going into it, it's like I know this first can looks

Erin 24:32

not always. Sometimes people are sometimes right away people

Josh 24:35

are resonating with. Yeah. And it really depends on what you're doing. To prep your body for that. Right. People that are in the sauna every single day focusing on their drainage pathways, things like that. Yeah. Yeah. The results are gonna look a little different, and they're probably gonna go take on some heavy hitters, but even for mine, my first round of results, it was so accurate. Mm-hmm. to a scary point. But I had to open up my drainage pathways. Mm-hmm. which is why I got so royally fucked with the heavy metal detox.

Erin 25:02

Yeah. Well and heavy metals is never where you want to start, per se. Yeah. But

Josh 25:06

anyway, thanks doc. Cut out to the motherfucker that told me to do that. Oh

Erin 25:10

man. Okay. What's next?

Josh 25:11

So then after nutritional imbalances, we go to detox in toxin.

Erin 25:17

Hey, if you are wanting to learn about toxins, y'all check. Toxin toxin Tuesday Tu, we have fun on Tuesdays, on Instagram and TikTok. Yeah, we do. Okay. Toxin. So this is kind of, this is where I spend the chunk of my time usually on consults just because it is. Unique to, yeah, bio energetic testing. So this will list out any resonating meaning we are picking up the energetic code or energetic frequency of this particular toxin or pathogen within your samples. So that means your hair and saliva is holding onto the energetic code or signature of these things. So again, not diagnostic doesn't mean it's not helpful. it worked. Yeah, it. Creepily. It educated me to health. It sure did. Yeah. Yeah. Even this is probably way tmmi everybody, but whatever. We're a health and wellness podcast's. Really. I resonated with a certain parasite. Anyway, I've been on some herbs. Yeah, I pooped it out. You did?

Josh 26:17

I was so amped. It's errands. It's the first, first villa

Erin 26:20

site. I'm sure I've passed them. I mean, I've been on herbs for, I don't know, a while at this point. Yeah, out she came and I couldn't believe it at first. I just kept looking at it like, wait a minute. Is that what I think it is? Yep.

Josh 26:33

It was

Erin 26:33

awesome. Yeah. I'm not gonna talk too much more about it because I don't want everyone picturing me, like examining my shit in the. Yeah,

Josh 26:40

I pooped out some that were so big that there was no need to examine. Yeah.

Erin 26:44

They were visible. Yep. Yeah. Parasites are often a place that we start and the, for many reasons, parasites kind of act like a sponge for things like heavy metals, mold. Bacteria even. So they eat this stuff up and hold onto it. Yeah. And so what happens is, is if we try to heal or if we try to target a different, say, we try to, we work with a lot of people with lime, so say we target lime. Yeah. And we don't cleanse parasites first. We don't get rid of parasites. Yeah. What happens is once we do, then later the parasites, they're gonna die off and release all the shit that they were holding onto. Right. And then you're back at square one, right. Treating Lyme again, Yep. So not treating, sorry. We don't treat disease, we. Anyway, remediate. Yeah. So often we will see people resonating with herbals that will target parasites. Yeah. And a lot of herbs have multiple benefits, kind of like broad spectrum antimicrobial, so they may, they may hit parasites, but also bacteria and also viruses. Yeah. Et cetera. So that's often a place people start.

Josh 27:46

So in toxins. Yeah. What you'll see are mold, bacteria, mold and fungus. bacteria, parasites, chemicals, heavy metals and viruses. Correct. I think in that order is how you will visual see it. Oh, there you. Yep. Designed that.

Erin 28:07

Yes. So it's a lot of information and this is why we require every scan to have a consult because if somebody were to just look at this information and be like, holy shit, I've got X, Y, and Z. Yeah. Right. It's overwhelming and it, and it can feel kinda like scary almost. And that is not at all what we hope it to be for people. Yeah. In instead, I hope this is more of a, an aha. Yeah. Totally. Like, oh. Yeah. I feel validated. My,

Josh 28:33

we don't want you to Google this without consult. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so how we've designed that, just so everyone knows mm-hmm. you're not gonna see the toxins until you book the free

Erin 28:42

consult. Yes. It's full free. Yeah. I will unlock the, the toxins for you so you can see that. Yeah.

Josh 28:48

Inside the console you'll see it, and then Aaron will, or whoever the practitioner is. Mm-hmm. will go over it. And help you Id by

Erin 28:55

what those are. Yes. And often we will see in the toxin section things that, from my perspective, make a lot of sense with all the stress and deficiencies that we see in prior sections.

Josh 29:09

And usually you could start to correlate symptoms. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. In any consult that I've been a part of, and then in my own experience, the amount of aha moments that happen inside the toxins section. Yeah.

Erin 29:21

Bogus. Mm-hmm. Yeah, like just an example, a specific. Say somebody resonates with baia, which is a microscopic parasite. Yeah. Intracellular meaning it lives inside of cells, but it has this very specific, not for everybody, but a very specific symptom called air hunger. Mm-hmm. So not everyone experiences that, but I will often just list off, this is one of my first symptoms. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I will list off just some like common symptoms of each toxin, and not every time, but often people will be like, oh my gosh, that's what that is. You know, like I didn't have any idea. Totally. That's always exciting to be able to give somebody kind of an answer and hope we can get rid of that.

Josh 29:57

Totally. Let's, let's hit it and the cool part inside of all of that is with each scan we ask you to fill out a health form. Mm-hmm. it's required for the first scan and what it seems like with almost every client and including myself, the symptoms that I'm putting down are the ones that I'm struggling with the most that day. Sure. When I'm filling out the form, only people that are that sick, you're not just like keeping tabs on your 30,000 symptom. So then when you get to the results and you're talking about toxins and you bring up like, yeah, you know, you might have some intense eye floaters right now or whatever, and you're like, what? I am, and I didn't put that on my form.

Erin 30:33

I know. Because we were so skeptical at first. We were like, are they, I didn't put anything. Yeah. Or like, what are they doing with this form? Like, are they just making shit up now, being on this side of things, the form is very helpful because it's not gonna change the information that. Samples is giving us, but it's going to direct. Interpretation and analysis Right. Of the information, if that makes sense. Yeah, totally. To better help you. So a hundred percent. Yeah. I wanna know what your biggest struggle symptoms are so that we can formulate a protocol that is best suited for you. Yeah. If you're feeling skeptical, we're not using your form to cheat, we're using it to help you. That's something that I just wanted to mention. Yeah,

Josh 31:14

that's great. Toxins is the heavy hitter. I mean, it's where you're gonna see things like co-infections and. the tough part about Lyme mm-hmm. and the testing that exists right now is that it's only taking account a few variations. I don't even know what you call it, species. There's brilliant when there's a handful of them. Yeah. And so, yeah, you're able to see more specifically the identification of which ones you're struggling with, if you have it. Mm-hmm. and anything else,

Erin 31:41

so That's awesome. Yeah. The cool part about bio energetics is we're testing for things at an energetic level. Right, right. Or a frequency level. So this isn't to say it's more accurate than diagnostic. It's just so different from diagnostic testing or any form of like lab work, but it can be very sensitive, I guess. Yeah, it can pick up things sometimes even before we can see it. Yeah, totally. That's not even taking into consideration the crapshoot that is certain lab testing things like Lyme, I mean ask or parasite. Yeah. Ask any Lyme. Doctor, and they will tell you that the Lyme testing is archaic. That it's archaic. Yeah. I mean, it hasn't been updated since like before I was born. Yeah, it's shame. Yeah. And who knows how many false negatives. Anyway, that's why we love this test so much because it can pick up on things that maybe a conventional lab wouldn't. Because these, sorry, I'm, I'm getting That's gay. Go for it. I'm getting nervous. You're amped. Now here's the thing. So a lot of these, you gotta think these bugs are ancient, right? Like they have, are way older than humans, and survive, right? And we've kind of evolved together. So they have evolved within us, within our bodies. To evade our immune system. Yep. And so what happens is, especially, I know I talk a lot about Lyme, it's just what we work with a lot. Like an acute lime you may be able to test for and pick it up. But once it past the acute phase and we're into chronic, a lot of these bugs are able to burrow into places, right, into tissues. And they're good at evading Totally. Both our immune system and things like antibiotics and others. Right, right, right. So, Again, just why I love using the energetic side of thing to pick up. Yeah, it's really helpful. It is Yeah. I know I don't have to convince you, but

Josh 33:33

Nope. Done. Done. Being convinced. All right, let's talk about hormones. Hormones, yes. Gosh, those poor things. They're sitting in between toxins and remedies. All you want to do is just bump past them and go right onto remedies.

Erin 33:44

Yeah. Hormones do get overlooked a little bit. Here's the thing about hormones. Yeah. About a decade ago, people talked a lot about hormones, especially women, right? I mean, we sometimes feel like we are run by our. In some ways we are, but no comment from the peanut calorie. I'm not anything. The issue with hormones is an imbalance in hormones. It's always downstream from a bigger root cause. So while they are super important and they have huge impacts in our health, a lot of women are familiar with estrogen dominance. That's one we see a lot is. Low progesterone and things like that, but it's all downstream. So if we're addressing the things that we've seen prior in the scan, if we're taking care of toxins, if we are eliminating food sensitivities, if we're rebalancing those nutritional imbalances, if we're nourishing our body with the right foods, if we are focusing on joy, eliminating stress, all of these things are hormones are gonna fall into balance. So it is helpful, but I don't spend a ton of time on it. Yeah. For that reason, because I know that if we're balancing the rest of our body, Hormones will fall into

Josh 34:41

place. Yeah, I'd imagine in consults too. This is at least how I was, I got there, I couldn't even tell you any of my scans, hormone levels. Yeah. At any time I would read my toxins and then bum Right. To remedies. Yeah. So we did consider when we were designing what the results were gonna look like, if we were going to even include them into the results. Through the research though, we found it to be incredibly impactful. And while it may not help you determine everyth, It does give you a level of understanding of maybe this is impacting X, Y, and Z and we need to stay conscious of that as you go through the scans. Cuz like we talk about you're not gonna do just one. Seeing how those are either coming off of your results of, oh sweet, I'm not low in testosterone or estrogen or whatever. And seeing that progress, it's still incredibly helpful.

Erin 35:25

Yeah, and it's just another data point. So say we're seeing somebody resonate with a lot of adrenal stress or thyroid stress, the two are intertwined and connected. So if we're seeing those hormones again, pop up at the end of the scan, whether it's low T3 or t4, or high cortisol or low cortis. It's just another data point for us to really hone in and focus on those areas. So a lot of women do resonate with adrenal stress, thyroid stress. Yeah. And so yeah, we can talk through lifestyle things, dietary things, and that can be kind of a, a focus point, but it's just another data point. Yeah. And there's so many data points that I can see why it gets a little bit overwhelming at that point. We said this earlier. The amount of information that we are able to obtain from just hair and saliva samples. It's too much information. Yeah. To give a person, it wouldn't help. Right. So we're boiling this down, particularly for hormones. We're looking at the top three or four, maybe five, that are resonating high or low. So we have to boil it down Totally. And people will be

Josh 36:24

overwhelmed. Love you hormones. Yeah. But let's get to the remedy

Erin 36:28

remedies. This is the exciting part because this is where healing happens, right? Mm-hmm. so according to all, Information, the data that we've received from your samples. The equipment itself will generate a list of balancing remedies. I think it's about a list of 20 or so. Then our practitioners go in and we look for six of those 20 that we think will be the most balancing according to the stressors that we see and the toxins. So if we can kind of tell by the results that a person is not draining or detoxing, it may be focused more on just drainage at first or just nutritional support. And then once we. Peel back those layers of the onion and we're getting a little more into the detox territory. We may resonate with more specific herbs or homeopathic remedies. Things like a series therapy that's targeting a specific microbe, teaching your body how to manage those things. As far as what remedies may resonate, we use two different lines of products. We use, does bio. Products and physical energetics. They both have herbals and they both have homeopathic lines and nutritional supplements. Herbals, you can kind of think of doing a job for the body, and sometimes we see herbals used as just like green medicine. So you called them snake

Josh 37:37

oils

Erin 37:37

at first? No, no, no. I, I mean like sometimes we see people in the natural health space. Mm, gotcha. Kind of use it like a pharmaceutical, but it's. So that's not our goal. Our goal is to, again, bring the whole body into balance, into homeostasis. We're not just treating a symptom with an herb. herbs can be super helpful. They can be more supportive in nature. Like our adaptogens, the Ola, ashwaganda, holy basil, those can really help people to modulate that stress response. So whether their adrenals are really stressed or under functioning, it can help to balance that out. But then we have herbs that are more detoxifying in nature that are gonna go and kill. Microbes and help to break down. They kill. They do. Yes, they do that. Yeah. But they can also help to break down things like biofilm that are protecting those microbes that are keeping them safe from their perspective. Not so much our body safe. So that's the herbal realm. Those are going in and doing a job for the bot. Homeopathics are super cool and they are more so ting your body, how to do a job on its. and so we've talked a lot on our social about the series therapies, but in that scenario, we're introducing the energetic coder signature. Again, we work a lot with frequencies and energy. I know it sounds like it's just different and it's science, baby. I know. So we're introducing a small concentration of that energetic coder frequency or signature of a particular tox. and every three days we're increasing that concentration slightly up to day 10, and then we work our way back down. And so what that's doing is eliciting an immune response from our bodies to specifically to that toxin so our body is able to mount a response and learn how to keep that toxin under locking

Josh 39:17

key. Yeah, the serious therapy in general. out of all of the remedies that I did in my healing journey, those seemed to be the most impactful. I most definitely saw the most progress from serious therapy over anything else. And I understand that remedies in, in and out itself, they all matter. But shit, dude, when I was going through the series, I poo-pooed those. All it looks like is freaking water and a vial. Mm-hmm. you're like, whatever. This kind of tastes like rubbing alcohol, whatever this is doing. And they're all exactly the same. And you increase the dosage. It's all the same size, but you increase the load as you go up and then you decrease going down and you won't, I won't boo PDOs anymore. I have full respect for them. Yeah. And I think something to talk about too. There's many clients that will resonate with a. and do fine on it. Yeah. And not feel a hers. And the goal isn't two hers, that's not the goal. Mm-hmm. And we have through a lot of trial and error, figured out certain ways that help you through those and it not be death or hell to get through it. So it is a huge win. It's a celebration when you're not. Hering as much, but it doesn't mean it's not working. It just means that your body is working hard to combat what a Herx would be, and you're detoxifying that shit out.

Erin 40:35

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I always hesitate, I, I want people to be prepared and informed before they start these remedies, so I don't wanna whiplash. Yeah. And nobody wants to be surprised by a herx. So I usually will mention it, but I'm always hesitant to do so. Cuz sometimes it almost feels like planting the seed of like, for sure you're gonna feel like garbage and,

Josh 40:54

and if you don't, you're like, what the fuck? Yes, it's not working. Right.

Erin 40:57

Yes. And then there are things. Supportive in nature that we do. Anytime somebody's on a series, first of all, we always start with the comprehensive detox kit, so that will help to open like way, open up our drainage pathways, comprehensive head to toe. Mm-hmm. So we start with that. Also, anyone that's doing a serious therapy will always be on liposomal vitamin C to just really help immune support, also support your adrenals as they're being asked to do a little bit of extra work, and that can really help to decrease the chance of a herx along with smart silver. So smart silver. Adjacent to Colloidal Silver. Most people are familiar with colloidal silver. It's kind of an antimicrobial, almost antibiotic, but natural form. This is different. Smart Silver is, it's a different molecular form. It's an amazing product.

Josh 41:41

I dunno if our wind, you've seen my Big Creek wedding, but that shit is my Windex. Yes. I'll put it on everything.

Erin 41:46

Yeah, you can use it topically on wounds and stuff, but during a series therapy, we take it orally. So under your tongue it acts as kind of like a mop sort of. If you think of the series therapy as sort of shaking the tree, the smart silver is the mop to mop up whatever we shake loose. And that's super important because otherwise you may really not feel great. Yeah.

Josh 42:06

Yeah. I would increase the silver when I start to feel any type of hercs I'd increase. Mm-hmm. Lipsy and silver. And it would help exponentially. Yeah. Within 30 minutes I would notice the hers start to come down and kind of relieve me in

Erin 42:18

crazy ways. And then the other thing, depending on your health form, so this is another reason why that health form is so I. if there are symptoms that we know that you are already struggling with or we theorize that may come up with something like a series kit or any really herbal, homeopathic, whatever. There are other supportive yeah. Remedies that we can add on to your protocol. I mean, does Bio even has a product called Hercs that will help to mitigate the Hercs reaction? So we want it to be the most tolerable. Yeah. Process. So again, important to give us as much information as you can. The goal

Josh 42:55

isn't to hers. Your body's already working really, really hard. Mm-hmm. so why add more stress to it? Yeah. If you don't mind, can you talk a little bit about one thing, we talked about it in our previous episode, but the importance of actually doing all remedies instead of picking and choosing based on what you feel. obviously, we talk a lot about intuition, and so trusting your intuition is something we advocate for, but your body is telling you in various ways that, Hey, I'm ready to take care of this. And we're seeing what resonates and what doesn't. What are the pros and cons of doing it fully? And if somebody chooses not to do all six, sometimes we see seven, but rarely, that list of. What does that look like?

Erin 43:37

Yeah, that's tricky. And I know that people are financially often making that decision because the series and the comprehensive detox kids, it's expensive. Yeah. It gets pricey. We've been there. Yeah. We get it. That being said, the way that we test, we take those six remedies that your body has already told us are balancing. And we resubmit those six all together to your samples to ensure that synergistically they're working well together. So it's really hard for me on a consult to suggest anything other than those six, because that's the information that we have, and we know that together they're balancing. and you've gotta keep in mind there are so many physiological processes using chemical interactions, all these things that are happening within your body that say somebody resonates with B vitamins and they're like, me, I don't, I'll just do whatever herbs Your body requires those nutrients to do so many functions including detoxing. Yeah. And I think often too. One remedy relies on the other. They work again, synergistically together. So if we're just picking and choosing, it's just not gonna be the best for you. The way that bioenergetics works is we are almost asking your body a question. What are you struggling with and what do you need now? And your body is literally giving us information, saying, I am low in this. I'm resonating with this toxin, et c. And I am ready for X, Y, and Z. It's the key. Yeah. It's your body is telling us what it needs at this very moment in real time. We do recommend, if possible, trying to test on an average day for you. I know that symptoms ebb and flow, so don't get too tied up in that. But ideally, if you're able to be off of any supplements or non-essential medications, of course, consult your doctor before you stop taking any medications, but ideally be off of anything that you can tolerate being off of for three days and then. Collect your hair and saliva samples, and this will help us to just get a clearer picture. I remember when you were sick, taking a day off of say, C B, D and Mag gaba. GABA magnesium. Yeah. That was just not happening. Wasn't happening. No. You would've been a wreck. So, don't do that. But if there's things that you're wondering like, do I need this? Just be off of it for three days. And if you're curious, if there's supplements that you're taking currently and you wanna know, are these balancing for me? Is my body vibe in with this? There is an option on the site when you purchase. Mm-hmm. to add in up to five supplements.

Josh 45:58

Yeah. You'll see it on the card. It'll come up after you add a scan to your cart, it'll pop up asking you, do you want to add five supplements to test or.

Erin 46:06

Mm-hmm. So yeah, if you do select that, we'll send you with some extra bags and just make sure that you label them and we're able to then look and see if those things that you're taking are balancing with your body. That started to be really

Josh 46:17

helpful for me once I got midway through the healing journey, we were taking like probiotics or prebiotics, and it's like a crab shoot. You have no idea what is causing your belly to feel the way it's feeling, and that was super helpful to be like, yep, that probiotics probably causing all this upset stomach. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and you could.

Erin 46:35

Yeah. So that's always an option if you're curious.

Josh 46:37

So our third that we didn't talk about, we have herbal, homeopathic, and then nutritional supplements. Mm-hmm. can you talk a little bit about those?

Erin 46:45

Yes. So if we see things resonating low in that nutrient section of the scan, those vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids,

Josh 46:54

which smart silver and liposomal C would be considered nutritional supplements.

Erin 46:59

Yeah. Just because they don't really fall under the other two. Yeah. That's what you're gonna see'em. Yes, of course. So, but if somebody is resonating really low and worth theorizing that that could be causing or contributing to the overall picture, that's when a nutritional supplement will populate. And they are just as important as the other two and often. Again, I think we've talked about this, but we have to start with the fundamentals. A body will not heal if it is depleted, if if it needs nutrients. So that is often a place that we start. We may see like the Vita Life force or just something that has a lot of nutrient dense things, and sometimes that

Josh 47:37

can be a bummer to some clients because they'll come in so sick and just so ready to rock and roll. You're at rock bottom. You are ready to do just about anything to. and then you get a S slew of supplements and you're like, what the fuck? I could have gone to Amazon and gotten all of these. You have to understand, and I was there too, that you have to have a foundation in order to build off of it. and if your body's not ready for some heavy hitters or even herbals that can do some crazy things and help you detox and all of that, then you have to start that foundation if you don't have it to make sure that your body is ready to handle whatever it's about to do inside of the herbal homeopathic.

Erin 48:16

Right? Yeah. Don't be discouraged if you resonate with like a greens powder. That's your body. I need some support before we, we do this big job.

Josh 48:25

So, but again, the beauty of that is you're not guessing.

Erin 48:28

Exactly. So yeah, we know that your body is telling us that this particular remedy, ingredient, whatever, is balancing. Yeah. And that's our goal, right? It's. Ultimately balance to a point where your body can come into contact with whatever in your environment, whether it's toxins, stress, et cetera. Mm-hmm. and cope. So that's what the goal is for these remedies. The goal is to send you on your merry way and not come see Ruti ever again. Balance. Yeah. That takes time. Don't expect it to have it in one scan and run of remedies. Right. But that is the goal. This was good. Yeah. It was fun. I love results. Yeah, they're fun. They're so fun. I know. I'm such a nerd. I love. Getting into the, I don't know. Yes, you do. The nitty gritty. I just like healing.

Josh 49:09

Yeah. Healing's nice. Healing's, nice. I'll stick to that. Yeah. Hopefully we answered a bunch of questions. I, it's confusing. Results can be confusing. bioenergetics in and of itself can be confusing. Hopefully we answered those, but if we didn't DM us, reach out. Yeah. Whether we'll talk about it on our podcast or we talk on the toxin Tuesday, or we just DM back and forth, hit us up. Mm-hmm. at ruti.life. There you go. Sweet. Well bing. Bye.