Erin

Hi everybody. What a

Josh

do baby boo. How are you chilling? How you doing? Great. It's Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day.

Erin

I feel the love.

Josh

Do you? I do. Yeah. Y'all, I made, not to toot my own horn, but toot too toot toot. I made Pink Heart Waffles out of Beat Juice and it's

Erin

a real man. It's, it worked a real man there. It worked. You also and you didn't taste it. No, it tasted great.

Josh

How

Erin

you feeling? Good. I feel grounded more so than I have in hell. Yeah. Several weeks, which is saying something because it's that time of the month for me, so sure is. Usually I'm not feeling in my body

Josh

right now. Yeah, definitely not having to wear my football helmet this week for sure.

Erin

Yeah. So yeah, it's fantastic. It is fantastic.

Josh

I think nothing against wearing a football helmet if I need to.

Erin

Yeah, I'll try not to beat you up. I feel low-key,

Josh

proud of myself, Yeah. We've had a couple good weekends. We started to become more productive on our weekends.

Erin

Yeah. That's helped. Mm-hmm. balancing the, definitely setting

Josh

our week up for success.

Erin

Yeah. Just the practical things of life, like, oh yeah. We do have to have food to eat. You know, a house. I

Josh

mean, we've always had foodie. You've, you slay

Erin

I do. But usually it's causing lots of stress. Yeah. From the hours of five and 7:00 PM So that's a fact. Now it's like things are prepped and I can whip it up. We eat yummy,

Josh

wholesome. Yeah. Meal prep Sunday is a game

Erin

changer. It really is. 10 out of 10 would recommend. Yeah.

Josh

And we bond while Zoe sleeps.

Erin

It's great dance to music. We do. It's the best. Yep. We're gonna keep that going. Yeah.

Josh

How are you? I'm pretty good. Yeah. It's been a good week. We still have a lot going on, but it feels like we have direction. So that's the best way to describe it.

Erin

Yeah. How's that Borrelia treating you?

Josh

You know, my brain turns on and off sometimes it does. I've noticed that it, like it's increas. Yeah,

Erin

so Series hasn't come yet. So we haven't started,

Josh

but it's on y'all. Y'all know when I start my series I'm gonna be boasting. You don't just go through series therapy, you let everyone know you're going through series therapy. Josh is gonna make it. I need moral support.

Erin

Yeah, he wants to make a shirt or like a sweatshirt or

Josh

something. Like we used to joke, everyone that's gone through emdr. Oh yeah. That we should make shirts that. Say I made it through emdr. Yeah. Honestly, cleared all of my, what's EMDR was was hard. I need, I need some t-shirts that say series therapy. Yeah, because that was slightly harder.

Erin

Not for sissies, that's for sure.

Josh

Anybody with a chronic illness? Well, we ain't sissies. Nope, y'all, we built different

Erin

You are built different

Josh

I wanna like have an anthem for that. Maybe one day. At a minimum. I still need my hip hop button cuz I would've used it right there. we built different

Erin

here. We're here we're, I haven't gotten around to sewing those into all your pants yet. Sorry.

Josh

I forgot about that. Had a few things going on. It's all good. But overall pretty good. I feel more grounded and centered to

Erin

this week. Partly I think we are, which imagine this it's everything that anyone in the healing space or, Eckhart Tole or who's the poet? Young Pueblo. Young Pueblo. All these people, you gotta heal yourself. Mm-hmm. before you can do work in the world. And so we're doing some of the things that we know and preach Yeah. Are important. We're going outside, we are drinking our water just simple foundational things. And that has helped

Josh

a good bet. I mean, if y'all aren't doing that, that's a good place to start. Sure is for sure. I definitely felt some like weird emotions over the weekend. We had that X-class solar flare. Shout out the sun to the sun

Erin

Thanks Sun

Josh

Betty and multiple

Erin

mCLASS solar flares. I don't even know what any of that chip means. So you'll, you're

Josh

gonna have to, x classes are really intense solar flares. I think it is the most intense is a solar flare. Just like poof. Soft.

Erin

The sun. Okay. The sun is farting

Josh

on us Yeah, It is. Tooting

Erin

on the earth. Fiery toot coming hot.

Josh

That got me so good. I like him imagining, I'm imagining it now.

Erin

I cannot wait for the next time that you fart, cuz I'm gonna call them m class

Josh

X class or M class, depending on the severity. Oh, that's an X class right there. especially, it's burning my nose. Okay. Oh, that was great. I was expecting to cry this morning, but wow. Yep. Different cry thanks to the sun farting

Erin

Okay, that's great. So solar flares got you feeling a little wiggly inside.

Josh

I I can't believe that that doesn't affect us so much power coming off that sun for sure. At a baseline and then you get a solar flare. And then our planet is absorbing that. Yeah, for sure. I like to call that, helping our ascension though on a cellular level. I think our body's feeling that. So, yeah. Weird emotions came up over the weekend. Weird body pains. What'd But I'm back, baby.

Erin

What'd you do with it?

Josh

Curious. I sa for sure. I did. Yeah. I'm not scared to sit in those anymore. Mm-hmm. I used to be, but now I just kind of observe them. Yeah. I don't necessarily long to identify them. I don't think I need to. Yeah. I just need to observe that, hey, I'm feeling these emotions, these things are happening around me. Mm-hmm. So maybe something with that made me feel that mm-hmm. but I just sitting there until it passes. Yeah. And my body does a great job letting me know when it's time for it to scoot on by. Yeah. it

Erin

was, emotions are, I don't think I've said this before in here, but the root word of emotion, like what it actually means is to move out and to, that's what it did. Yeah. instead we try to just shove em down deeper. Yeah. but their whole purpose is to like it's energy and motion. Yeah. E emotion. that's not really what it means, but it's a good way to think of

Josh

it. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. I didn't even realize that I would shove them down. I would just completely, You were a runner.

Erin

I was. Yeah. We got a runner. We say that in the hospital.

Josh

That was me. Yeah. Not anymore. Yeah. I am grounded, centered. Mm-hmm. It's a good place to do. Sitting in my emotions, my emotions definitely determine my thoughts. Yeah. In so many ways. I don't know if I ever recognize that, but I definitely do now and I live at a state of curiosity a lot more than I used to. Yeah. Cuz I don't have so much fear about it. Yeah. Feels good. Shout out to those solar floors for helping me get healthier. There you go. There you go.

Erin

Yeah. I love that concept when we did that positive intelligence course. Where life, regardless of whatever circumstance you're in mm-hmm. if it feels hard or challenging, or if it's a difficult person that you're dealing with, whatever, those are all opportunities for you. Big time for you to practice presence. Mm-hmm. and awareness and consciousness. It feels like a sentence or something. Sometimes when these bad things come into our life. if you flip the perspective, it really can be an opportunity to, grow and practice. Oh, big time. Yeah. Yep. Easier said than done, but

Josh

you know, it is. Yeah. But I think it becomes easier the more you do. For sure,

Erin

like anything. Mm-hmm. well that's a great segue into what we want to talk about today, which is kind of, this concept of mind, body, and soul, and how, unfortunately we've really siloed the three, I think Yeah. In a lot of ways, especially in Western culture and, allopathic medicine. But, we see these three different entities as not really co-mingling much. Mm-hmm. when in reality when it comes to illness or, physical symptoms, they're all at play, in my opinion. Agreed. Mind, body, and soul. And so, somebody who's not maybe spiritually inclined or for whatever reason is, just not into that, may tend to attribute all physical symptoms or illness to just the physical body. Right. Whereas others it's way more common now. I think the mind body piece is a little more talked about these days. I mean, the body keeps the score changed. Human consciousness and awareness of this topic in a lot of ways. So that part may be less tricky for people, but the soul part, is still really, I think just challenging for people to wrap their heads around how the soul is intertwined with mind and body.

Josh

I have a mini theory to that. Yeah. I almost think that it's chronological in some ways. You may have a spirituality that exists prior to the body, but when the body's compromised, you inevitably start to shift your spirituality. Mm. In chronic illness, it comes to a point where your body is priority, and then once it's not priority, you kind of work on your mind. And then once your mind's not a priority, you kind of work on your spirit. Interesting. And I think that as a state of humanity, we've kind of gone through the Body Q score and then with C O V I D, we were intensely aware of our bodies and what it was doing. And then mental health became a really, really big. Piece of the conversation and everyone started going to therapy, which is great. It's fantastic. Mm-hmm. everyone started to think with significantly more mindfulness. People like Young Pueblo who have been doing great work for so long, it started to become more mainstream. Jay Shetty at Carle, and now we're in this transition or ascension into spirituality, and more and more people are starting to talk about it. But we had to go through the body and the mind in order to receive, or at least be open-minded enough to start to have conversations around spirituality that aren't mainstream. That's just a theory I

Erin

totally could get on board with that theory. Yeah, it definitely has required a few steps. Like you think even just when we were young and the way that people thought about mental illness was so different than what kind of emerged in our young adulthood. And now it's even shifting more. So yeah, it, it's kind

Josh

of referring, this is really saying like the majority of the collective. Right. I completely am aware that there was a minority that was leaps and bounds ahead of Yeah. The majority and I, the young

Erin

po blows and the Eckhart delays and

Josh

Oh, and even before that you had these people doing crazy woowoo shit. And everyone was like, well, they're crazy. Yeah. And I just think maybe they were a step ahead of us Yeah. In all of this. And I'm not saying that the majority or the collective is moving into spirituality and how we're gonna talk about it today, but I do think that we are not alone for sure in this type of what I would call ascension. Yeah. And even us being willing to talk about it and not be completely terrified that people are gonna call us bat shit crazy. kind of tells me that we're not fully alone in

Erin

this. Yeah. I mean, I, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have an inkling of that. I think just because our upbringing and a lot of our people are just in a different space spiritually than we are. And that's not hierarchy. I'm not placing my spirituality as more whatever. Legit. Yeah. I do feel like the flip side is maybe they would look at my spirituality and think it's not legit. I feel like we're both at a place now where that is less triggering. It's definitely

Josh

feels like a vulnerable place to be. Yes. Vulnerable but not terrifying. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But not terrifying.

Erin

Right. That's what it feels like. Yeah. For me too. Mm-hmm. So we're just gonna do it. We're gonna do the damn thing. Yeah.

Josh

We're gonna do it. Yeah. The first couple episodes we mostly have talked about the body and the mind. Right. Although there's more to say about both. Spirituality feels like a fun one to talk

Erin

about today. Yeah. And we're both just, uh, it's not a hobby, it's just like something that we love, so I can't get enough of it. Yeah. We talk about it all the time. it is just infused in every part of our life right now. yeah, I'm excited

Josh

all that to say. I think we're in two different places too, which is for sure something we celebrate a lot. Yeah. We're learning from each other also. Our personalities are different. How we're absorbing life is just completely different. Yeah. What impacts you may impact me differently. So it's been fun to be having spirituality as one of the leading points of our conversations, but it being completely safe that we're on two different journeys. Learning and growing in our own ways and kind of celebrating and encouraging it.

Erin

Yeah. There was a time in our life and our in our lives together mm-hmm. that if we didn't believe to some extent the exact same thing. There was an incompatibility or something. Yeah, yeah. Component there and that. Thankfully, I feel like we're not in that space anymore. It feels very curiosity driven, open. Mm-hmm. minded. Yeah. Which is fun. I mean, I feel like that's where the magic is. It's a blast. Yeah. I limited myself so much in what I was able to experience and see and learn in the world and about what I call God or divine or source, there were walls I was afraid to look over. Mm-hmm. For many reasons. But it was, you know, it was programmed in me. Yeah. And now I just don't approach it with a fear like I did. Mm-hmm. I don't think either of us do. No. So it's fun to just be able to be curious and to be able to look into things that, we may feel differently about. And that's, yeah. Cool. Agreed. More to talk about

Josh

Yeah. It does bring up more in our conversations for sure. Mm-hmm. when we talk on the podcast, both of us aren't breathing.

Erin

I know. Yeah. We both get out of

Josh

breath. Yeah. I feel like I'm oxygen deprived. Like I just take that deep breath and I was like, holy shit, I'm alive. ever. I think I was dying there for a moment.

Erin

Josh was setting 70 over here. Yeah.

Josh

So let's drop back a little bit. we could talk about our upbringing on a completely different podcast, but that's not the intent of. Mm-hmm. This one, when I started to heal and get really better, my mindset started to shift. I started to recognize that living in a state of nothingness inside of spirituality wasn't gonna get me anywhere. for my journey, I think spirituality was imperative for me to kind of release the past.

Erin

Yeah. So you had kind of undone the previous programming or whatever you wanna call it, that you had mm-hmm. but hadn't replaced it with anything yet. Yeah,

Josh

I didn't believe in anything. I mean, I maybe would if I was put on the spot say something like, oh yeah, I believe that there's a higher power. But I wasn't even remotely conscious of anything that had to relate to spirituality. It wasn't something you were pursuing at all? No, I had no desire. I started to recognize though, that needed to be a piece of my life. And so I started to dig in. Where I kind of put a stake in the ground was just to be open-minded and kind of go with the flow and see what I resonated with and didn't want it to, be labeled as a religion, but more just my spiritual side and what that looked like. And so mm-hmm. that's what I did. Just started reading a ton. Untethered Soul. Shout out. Yeah. Great book. If you haven't read that, just read it for fun. But then, you know, young Pueblo's poems really started to resonate and just the resonating really was just confirming my thoughts. Mm-hmm. really of like, okay, my thinking isn't crazy. But then there was this gigantis shift. Kind of early fall of last year. I started to recognize that the scarcity mindset wasn't gonna get me anywhere. And that, like I've talked about, that materialistic or that matter thought process was constantly chasing. And if I could get myself into the spiritual mindset, really feeling those emotions then as a result it reflecting my thoughts that I was in a place of attracting it my game of spirituality. Mm-hmm. completely. Mm-hmm.

Erin

I think a lot of people probably avoid or resist dabbling in the soul or spirit. Work because when you get down to the nitty gritty of it, it really requires you to shift your entire identity, you were saying, from the material to the spiritual. And like so many of us, the thought of identifying with anything except for our physical body and our mind is just impossible. Mm-hmm. it feels like What do you mean? There is no other option? Yeah. Like I have to identify if I, sure. If I'm not my mind, who am I true If I'm not Erin, if I'm not this body. So it's a tricky thing to start to consider mm-hmm. But when it comes down to is like, you're not gonna think your way out of thoughts. Yeah. So that's what you're talking about. you have to, it's more so an embodiment or an emotional soul work. And less identification with the mind and the body. Yeah.

Josh

Yeah, lemme talk a little bit about that spiritual mindset. Towards the end of the year, things were getting dicey with work. There was just a lot of unknowns. We were putting so much money into Ruti mm-hmm. in investment, that we were well aware of,

Erin

It was a risk

Josh

for sure, like for sure. Yeah. Definitely a lot of unknowns. Going into the new year, we were pretty confident that things were gonna come, but nothing had come yet. normally I would be completely stressed out. Mm-hmm. like spiraling. And that started to happen. I started to recognize it and that's when I made the shift of going from the materialistic mindset to the spiritual mindset and constantly started focusing for me on abundance. The idea of abundance. But then even just other emotions like peace and joy and presence and really started to become aware of those, It stopped taking over my thoughts. Yeah. The materialistic side. Mm-hmm. And so I started to not feel so stressed about money. Even when I would think about it, I'd be like, it's good. Like we're fine. We're gonna, if something's coming, I know something's coming. Something huge is coming. I started to think that way. Then we started the ice baths, which changed the game. And the idea of acceptance. I actually began to realize how much power I have to co-create with my reality, and I began to realize I was no longer a victim to life or living in that scarcity mindset. I began to co-create with the source instead of chasing, I started to tap so deeply into my inner guidance system and develop a connection to myself that I had never felt before. I didn't even know it was possible. I used to be so distracted, always scrolling on my phone or trying to fill my time with things that I thought would bring me happiness, but it never did. That's what makes the spiritual journey so empowering. Yeah. It gives you permission to transform your life in a way that you never thought was possible. You're no longer a victim to life, and you're not living in a scarcity mindset. Instead, you're co-creating with source to attract abundance and see life in a new way. Mm-hmm. And so You start to tap into your own inner guidance system and develop a deeper connection to your true. Yeah. You begin to listen to that voice within you, the one that tells you what you truly want and need in life. Then I started to create stillness in life and connect with that inner guidance system. Now, one day I felt like I just woke up in a completely different reality because I had turned inward and connected with my inner power, something I didn't know I could even tap. Yeah. My Intuition has felt clear. my vibration completely changed. And what I have been attracting to my life is insanely different. You're no longer allowing fear to control you. Mm-hmm. And so Instead, you lean into your fear and take action to grow and. it's a powerful journey, but it's not always easy. I'm not saying that this road was all butterflies and rainbows, but you have to only to do the work and face your fears. You get to live life that's aligned with your true self and filled with abundance and. and that's kind of my freedom. I just am constantly craving that and now just on this journey of continuing to grow in that and find where I can be my freest, truest self, it's, it's incredible. It's fun.

Erin

That's beautiful. Yeah.

Josh

Somebody was just asking me if, you know, when I felt that shift of really my ego quieting down and it just simply was when my awareness became over 50% and my ego was less than 50%. I believe that that's continuing to happen. You just grow 1% by 1%. I don't think that, for me, that's gonna be something that just like disappears. I think there's some people that their ego kind of just fades away. That would be called like the Buddhas of Gandhi. yeah, Adding that 1% onto awareness and your ego is getting smaller and smaller. You're identifying abundance everywhere and you're absorbing. You feel genuinely like you're attracting that frequency. Yeah. I stopped chasing, that's exactly what it felt like. Yeah. And instead of me constantly chasing through life, I just felt like I was in more times than not completely present and just living out what I felt I was meant to live out. Mm-hmm. That idea of acceptance, there's multi-level layers of acceptance. I think I was just more aware I chose the acceptance There was a level inside a chronic illness that I chose to accept, Not succumb to my symptoms, my illness, but Bioenergetics helped me accept because I was able to identify a little bit more. So many people were telling me it was just in my fucking head. that was really hard for me to accept. I wasn't accepting it, but then I got to that place of acceptance and it felt like as soon as I did that, I went to the next level. Mm-hmm. And so life is a series of accepting Yeah. Because we have no control over the external circumstances that are going to affect our life.

Erin

Right. it's the very tricky delineation between accepting, without identifying mm-hmm. with mm-hmm. is the hardest part, I think. Yeah. So, yeah, I accept in this present moment that I have X, y, and Z symptoms. I also know that that's not me, and I'm not accepting that for the rest of my life, you know? Yeah. I don't know. It's a, it's a tricky delineation, and I think that's why people get triggered sometimes when. People talk about this, accept your present circumstances or surrender to your circumstances. That can be really triggering when your present circumstances feel like hell. Right? Yeah. it's just kind of a, I guess, a tricky thing to parse out. I think Eckhart totally says this surrender is acceptance. And acceptance is essentially the gateway to healing. Mm-hmm. I think on the flip side of acceptance, if you are not surrendering, if you're not accepting to the present circumstances, the alternative is identifying with and feeding what Eckard calls the pain body. I'm gonna read this little excerpt cuz I think it's helpful, but it's kind of synonymous with the ego. they're these things within us that are kind of parts of us, but they're not us they are built for survival and so they will. Drive us insane if it means that they can survive. Mm-hmm. And so this is what he says, the pain body wants to survive and it can only survive if it gets you to unconsciously identify with it. It will feed on any experience that resonates with its own kind of energy. Anything that creates further pain in whatever form, including illness, So the pain body when it is taking you over will create a situation in your life that reflects back its own energy frequency for it to feed on. Pain can only feed on pain, it cannot feed on joy. So, I don't know, I just, boom, boom. But how easy is it for us to just unconsciously, it's like when a young child is watching a movie and you can tell that they've switched they're no longer here. They're in the movie. Yeah. That's for a lot of us our entire life. that's how we, are identifying with, we are unconsciously mm-hmm. taking on something that is just a narrative, a story like it's not us. Yeah. yeah, not to say that causes chronic illness, but I do think it, can accumulate, right? Mm-hmm. like it can contribute. when we talk about awareness or consciousness or presence, what does that look like in practical terms, I guess? how did you start to accumulate more percentages?

Josh

Yeah. When you're constantly thinking about it, It's inevitably going to be easier

Erin

to identify, but it's less about thinking, right? It's more

Josh

about, You have to be consciously aware. It's a practice at first. You can't just all of a sudden be aware of all the negativity, you know? Yeah.

Erin

Well, part of it too is the minute that I am thinking, oh, I'm not present now, I'm present. Mm-hmm. right? Because I've identified it. Yeah. It's like when a child looks around the room and realizes, oh, I'm not in this movie.

Josh

yeah, but you have to be consciously aware, the example that I always give, everyone's heard it now is the idea of me seeing a Lambo and then imagining myself in the lamb. You have to have a level of awareness in order to be able to identify that you're doing that and pull yourself out of it. Yeah. the awareness gets earlier and earlier. That's the percentage is increasing. Yeah. I see a Lambo and I just appreciate the Lambo now. Mm-hmm. like, oh, that's sweet. I don't crave to experience it or want it or need it. Mm-hmm. none of that exists. My consciousness isn't even remotely imagining about it anymore. I may now see Lambos and not even appreciate them. They may just drive by. Yeah. And it's just because I don't have that desire, because my awareness has blocked it. it doesn't, serve me in any way anymore. Not in a healthy way. Mm-hmm. for me personally. Yeah. I'm not saying that is for everyone. Yeah. But it's not my freedom. Mm-hmm. that has nothing to do with it. there is a progression. Of awareness that inevitably is gonna happen. People are talking about awareness. More and more and more. People are inevitably going to become more and more aware as it's talked about. Let me talk a little bit about the progression of all this, because yeah, you have the progression of awareness where. You start to be able to identify things earlier and earlier where the idea of scarcity is creeping in. Okay, it happens, but I'm aware that it happened. And then you feel it happening and you block it with your awareness, and then before long you aren't in scarcity mindset. You are in spiritual, full abundance, peace, joy, whatever. At least in our spiritual journey, there's been levels of awareness that exists that encourage us to continue to be more and more aware, and as a result, trust in the universe, The examples that I give are like our spirit guides. The idea of spiritual mindset versus the materialistic mindset just clicked for me one day, and I haven't looked back since. As I was working through that and being consciously more aware that my spiritual mindset needed to exist on a daily basis, I started to tap into what it could look like for source to exist all around me and inside of me. That's when I went down that deep rabbit hole of spirit guides. I did this crazy meditation where you get into like this, almost like in between sleep and not sleep, whatever that conscious state is where you're hyper aware that you're not asleep, but you know that you could be at any moment. Mm-hmm. and. With a guide. I started asking myself questions about the spirits that were around

Erin

me. So somebody was prompting you?

Josh

Yeah. Okay. So I was conscious enough to hear those prompts. the whole goal of this meditation was to figure out what the name of your closest guide was. Okay. Mine is Ezra. It was just like as clear as day. I don't know any Ezras, outside of like two kids. From friends of friends. Yeah. Ezra isn't like in my life all day long. It's just crazy. I don't think about somebody named Ezra often. That's for sure. And boom, it was so loud in a different voice. My name's Ezra, and I was like, shit, all right, let's roll. Wow,

Erin

let's roll. It didn't sound like your voice in your head.

Josh

No. That was the craziest part. That's wild. I went down that crazy rabbit hole of what is spirit guides an angel, numbers, It felt like in my awakening, spirit numbers were next, and so many people talk about this where you know, you are becoming more aware. You come into the spiritual mindset, then you start to see coincidences around you, and then intuition and your like chakras start to activate and then you start waking up at certain times. people have these experiences left and right. Mm-hmm. What became interesting in all of our stress that was happening in November and December, January, even so many unknowns, we were kind of. walking with our intuition. We were making decisions based on, this is gonna happen. We need these people, we need to say yes to this. Mm-hmm. all of these types of things with really no set stone of anything in the future. No hard evidence. No, none. we started to see consistencies, I don't believe in coincidences anymore. the angel numbers just skyrocketed in our life.

Erin

It's bizarre.

Josh

I mean, so let me tell them a little bit about the birds first. Oh yeah. So I had a terror reading and at the end it was just so crazy accurate. It felt like, it was just talking on a cellular level to me. And at the end she was like the bottom of the cards. Something with birds and she was just like, pay attention. the confirmation here is an excessive amount of birds, more birds than you've

Erin

ever seen. Like that's gonna be your sign that you're on the path. Yeah. days

Josh

later, I'm sitting in the four season room, which is just three walls of windows and I look up because the birds are so loud and there's thousand in our backyard, so many, so many things crazy. We will have to post the video. I freak out and n's already kind of like Josh, okay. Because I tend to over exaggerate on something like. I will admit that sometimes I get more amped than the rest So Erin comes, walks in and yeah, there is a lot of birds, and she's like, yeah, that's awesome. Back

Erin

to the

Josh

dishes. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm freaking out. I literally, like my nose is up to the window just like absorbing this. Like I get it universe. You're giving me a sign

Erin

for me. I looked out the windows and I was like, okay, that is a bizarre number of birds. Never even seen these birds before, but I could see how. You know, whatever. They're flying south. Who knows? Like they just happened to take a break, so that's what I thought. No thousands. Then I go back to do my dishes and our kitchen sink is oriented where I can look out and see the front yard and I look up and there are so many birds on our front lawn that you almost can't see the grass. It's intense. It's intense. And I immediately get just goosebumps from head to toe, cuz I've never seen, this was not like a casual flock of birds. I just never seen it again. No, no, never. Yeah. And the most bizarre part. So I immediately whip my phone out and I'm like, I need to get video footage of this. Like I need to like show the world what the heck is happening. I'm recording and I rustle, like I make a noise or something. And so they all fly away and I'm like, oh, bummer. I missed it. And then they all flock back, but only to our yard. It was the most buzz bizarre thing. I'm looking around at all of our neighbors. The video shows it. Yeah. All of our neighbors grass is completely clear. Clear. so for me, that was my first experience where I was like, oh, there's, there's maybe something to this. Like maybe this isn't just

Josh

birds. That is when my confidence skyrocketed. It was the greatest sign for Josh. Yeah, exactly what I needed. Yeah. It was like, sweet, let's roll. I'm not second guessing. I need a shit anymore. Yeah. I got my sign. I'm on my path. I'm gonna make decisions in that direction. and stress, just dropped off me. Yeah. 20,000 pounds lifted off my shoulders. Mm-hmm. and it was go time. Yeah. What I recognized inside of that was my thought process was completely different. I knew like the podcast even, it was like, let's fucking go. Yeah. it's time to get my voice out there. I'm ready to share my story. I feel like we've got things to say. It was just like, let's go. I bought everything. didn't even tell you. And then I was like, we started recording, and then I was like, oh, fyi, we're launching on 1 1, 1 or whatever. Yeah. Aaron's like, what, one 11? Yeah. Then what I started to realize happening for me personally was I would have second guessing thoughts. There would be moments of stress where I'd sit in it long enough that I would feel physical responses. I was completely aware of those thoughts and my responses to them. But I couldn't figure out how to get over them. And that's when the angel numbers started coming. Hmm. At a rapid pace. And it didn't feel like I was looking for them. It would be random shit, like, I'm so stressed about money or something like that. And Zoe would be like, yeah, what's five plus five plus five mean? And I'd be like, what? And she's like, five plus five plus five. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And she'd be like, pick up my phone. It'd be five fifty five. And it would be mid-thought. Yeah, yeah. Mid-thought. Mm-hmm. And I'd be like,

Erin

holy shit. Like the universe just took you by the shoulders and gave you you little

Josh

shake. And that started to happen at a consistent rate. Yeah. Almost daily. Where I was now living in a state of awareness. most days now, I'm more in the state of spiritual awareness than I am in the materialistic Now that's cool. But when I would float into the materialistic mindset, it would be spirit numbers. Mm-hmm. And it wouldn't even just be like, the time is 11, 11, it would be like a receipt says$1 and 11 cents. Mm-hmm. or my slack would be a certain time numbers outside of time even that were happening. And it was happening exactly when I would have the thoughts. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. So I'm having this spiritual awakening with, angelic numbers and Erin's like, okay, maybe there's something to this

Erin

I mean, I'm just, I think I'm a skeptic at heart. Well, I am and I'm not. I don't know. I'm very trusting by nature, but I also, I think because I know that's my nature, sometimes I overcompensate with skepticism cuz I don't wanna, be overtrusting. But I was kind of rolling my eyes at the numbers thing for a long time. And

Josh

I mean, I'm not even joking to you. the majority of people that I'll say this to people will be like, you're bad. Shit. Crazy. Yeah. I'll be like, I am. I am. Ah, straight up am Yep.

Erin

Here's the thing, it's definitely true that what you're looking for in life, you're gonna see

Josh

more of. Yeah. Every time you buy a new car in that color, you're gonna see it all over place. For

Erin

sure. But I don't think that that discredits it at all. It's like, okay, great. So if you're looking for things to be grateful for, And you see more things that you're grateful for, your overall life benefits from that. So there is a level

Josh

of that that exists. And then there's a completely other level where it's like, Nope. Yeah, so this, I'm not even looking for this. It's not just like, oh, it's 1110, let me watch it to get,

Erin

get 11, 11. No, no, never. eerie sometimes. the first time it happened to me, I, I honestly was a little freaked out because it felt otherworldly. It was otherworldly. I was cooking dinner and I had a day I was identifying with my thoughts. you know, I was identifying with my mind. I was stressed out, I was worried. I had all those, wondering if I'm cut out for this. Mm-hmm. thoughts and imposter syndrome galore. Just feeling like I don't know enough to do it all. And anyway, I'm cooking dinner and we had already had a conversation about, like, I had sensed it happening all day, so I was like, Hey, Can we talk about this? This is how I'm feeling. Help me And so we had kind of navigated that a little bit. And so I was cooking and really trying to muster up that confidence, I don't know, somewhere within me that I, I couldn't find it. so I'm chopping and I am looking at this beautiful meal that I prepped and I want to take a video of it because that's what I do. And so I turn on the lights above the island I have never seen this before, anywhere in our house and have not seen it again. And we have not seen it since. But there's two lights over our island and they are alternating, flashing it. They're not flickering. It's not like they're about to burn out. They're just alternating like a sign that wants to catch your attention.

Josh

There's a sequence,

Erin

I am watching this. I'm like, Josh, what the heck is happening or what's going on with these lights? And no other

Josh

lights are flickering in the house. Nope. It was

Erin

just those. Yeah. it was just strange. So I'm like, well, I guess I'll just turn them off and turn them back on and see if that fixes it. And so I turn them off and turn them back on and they work perfectly fine. So they weren't burning out. They have not burned out since I remember when I turned it off and back on and it, it. Over feeling like that felt supernatural. I have like the, like hairs are up on the back of my neck and I have goosebumps and in my head I'm like, I should check to see what time it is. Cause that felt supernatural. And I look at the clock and it's 5 55 and like didn't even cross my mind. I had no idea. If you would've asked me what time it was, I wouldn't have had a good answer. Yeah. Like, I don't know, 6, 7, 5, I have no idea. That's the state I was in that day. you freaked a shit. I did. I was like, babe, it's 5 55 And then I think we looked up what 5 55 meant and essentially was change is coming. You're on the path. Mm-hmm. And yeah, change for me is fucking hard sometimes. So I just really appreciated that little, I don't know, hug from source or universe or God. Yeah. My angel, I don't, I don't have a name for mine yet, Yeah, that was a very helpful experience for me. It, like you said, there is an element of what you look for in the world, you're gonna see, but there's also just something bigger than us out there. Yeah. That is not pulling strings. It's not like some, I don't know, big white guy in the sky with a beard that's controlling it. I just think whether it's something bigger than us or it's really just the interconnectedness between us all. Mm-hmm. really is probably a better way to put it, but, yeah, there's energy happening. It's crazy.

Josh

Yeah. Undeniable. Yeah.

Erin

And connectedness piece is huge too. Like we mm-hmm. of course, what we do is in the energy realm, so we talk a lot about energy, we love learning about energy this idea of quantum entanglement the Nobel Peace Prize that happened, I guess, was that last year? Last year? Proving

Josh

that molecular communication inside of the quantum space.

Erin

Yeah. Casual. I get you just whipping that out. Binging

Josh

So what that's, I could talk about quantum for a minute. I

Erin

love it. So it's proving on a, physics or scientific level that we are all connected. And whether it's your thoughts or your voice or whatever, impacting everything.

Josh

Yeah. I think that the next stage of that we, like, I call it awakening. I feel like I am literally waking up, waking up. I am now so much more in tune with the energy around me. Mm-hmm. That's the phase that I'm in now. I'm constantly learning how to navigate through those feelings of walking into a room and my like heart chakra is like, hell no. my consciousness is bumping into the quantum and it's feeling it and it's like, Nope. Yeah. And what do you do with that? Yeah. And my intuition, I feel like I'm tapped into it in a way that I, I didn't even know you could be tapped into an intuition like this. What do I do with that? I don't have answers yet, but that feels like what I've moved into after being like, okay, Spirit guides, they got me. Mm. I got these angel numbers. I am constantly getting confirmation from source when I'm moving in the right direction and when I'm not, there is evidence of friction. Mm-hmm. negative feelings, like

Erin

physical discomfort sometimes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Josh

We're full of abundance right now. Yeah. Let's

Erin

go. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, for me, I feel like breath work has helped it's like a portal for me into that space. Mm-hmm. I would be lying if I said I feel like I'm living there always. Obviously, I think that's been evident in what we've talked about happening in my life the past few weeks, but, there are ways to tap into this if it's not your day-to-day yet. Yeah. So try'em out. breath work for me is for sure a portal, I think for you. Meditation maybe and

Josh

yeah, that, that breath work session where I was hallucinating with my third eyeopening casual. That was at the exact time where I started to recognize the difference between the spiritual mindset and the materialistic mindset. Yeah. It went hand in hand the opening of my third eye felt like, that was me understanding it, downloading, yeah. Whatever I needed to download to get me to the next level. regardless of where you're at. just start with a sense of open-mindedness.

Erin

Yep. And curiosity and Yeah.

Josh

Because I know my spirituality is gonna look different than yours. Mm-hmm. And it's gonna look different than Joe Schmos. Mm-hmm. And I wanna be able to celebrate all of those. Especially if it's where you feel like you're in your most flow and you're thriving. Mm-hmm. And you feel free inside of that. Let's fucking go. I'm gonna celebrate that all day long. Yeah. But living in these states is going to look different for every single person. Every single person is absorbing stress in a different way. We're all living different lives, but I think we're all connected. I think that because of that, is a place to resonate with each other, that even though you're on a completely different path and maybe even believing something completely different, or spirituality just looks different to you, doesn't mean I'm better or you're better. It just means that your life looks different. But I can still connect with you. Yeah.

Erin

This connection is an illusion for sure. Mm-hmm. next time you wanna hate on someone or judge someone, just remember like, that's also you

Josh

Yeah. I think this was my huge step in my healing too. it's opened the doors wide open for so many different things. And even with the series therapy. Yeah. There was that state of like, Ugh, shit. Like I gotta do another series therapy. And then it was like this acceptance. Mm-hmm. of like, let's go. This is what the universe has got for me. I know I've got it. Mm-hmm. I've done it before it feels like we're on the cusp of something. Gigantis. I don't even know what it's gonna look like, but my first thought was like, the series is gonna get in the way. Yeah. And then I was like, this series is gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

Erin

let's go. Yeah. I think we both had that little hiccup of like, I could have, oh no.

Josh

Yeah. I could have had this series two scans ago. Yeah. And no, it's coming right now. It's perfect timing.

Erin

Good stuff. You gotta go. I gotta go. I love you. Dude,

Josh

Love you too. Proud of us moms. I have no idea if you made it through this one. Woo. proud of you. Get on that spirit Train

Erin

Moms, next time we talk, I wanna know your spirit guide's name. I wanna know your

Josh

spirit guide's name. How you gonna ask somebody else? You don't even have one yet. True. Take this episode. I'll get as you wish. Yeah,

Erin

take it or leave it.

Josh

Bye. Bye.