Erin

Hi everybody. What a do baby boo We have a treat for you guys today. We've talked so much about this earth angel named Kimberly, who we found a couple years ago, who is an amazing guide in all things breath work, and we're excited to just pick her brain.

Josh

Kimberly, I feel like you're an angel guide in the flesh for

Kimberly

me. Oh. Oh. That is the biggest compliment anyone could ever give me. Yeah. Thank you. I'm for real. You've changed my life. Oh, you've changed mine. Are you kidding me? Oh, thank you. That's so sweet.

Erin

The love is mutual for sure. Yes. Yeah. We found Kim a couple years ago when Josh was really in the thick of healing, and I don't even, I think it was through the Lyme community somewhere somebody shared you. Mm-hmm. and how breath work had their healing process. And we started with a group breath work session. And right off the bat we. Hooked. I think Josh had some crazy like psychedelic experience.

Josh

Oh yeah. I was like out of body. I was like, holy shit, I want this every week of my life.

Erin

Yeah. Which my experience was super different. It was very zen and just loving and I don't know, I just felt like pure bliss after We're just excited to pick your brain. I would love to hear how you found breath work and how you find yourself now doing this for a living.

Kimberly

Yeah. Well I remember that breathwork session you guys hopped on cuz I, I literally could feel for real, I feel that there were, there were these, let's go two amazing souls I just knew someone was on here that was really special. You guys have helped me out so much. You have no idea. so I'll, I'll never forget it. And you did, you reached out and it, you know, it's

Josh

just be, well, I feel like immediately I knew. Yeah. It was just like, oh, this is something different.

Erin

Yeah. And the world needs it. Yeah. Yeah. Josh was ready to share this with the world. I was

Josh

amped on a whole nother level. And this was even before Ruti. Ruti didn't exist yet. I was just, I don't, I've never tapped into myself like that before. And I, have done things to attempt that, but not on a level with just the oxygen that's always around me. Right. And it was empowering and you did it gently, and you did it in a way that, to this date, I've never felt fear inside of a session. Mm-hmm. I had no idea who you were. somebody posted it on Instagram or something. So we're up there just little noobs laying in bed being like, oh, we're gonna

Kimberly

breathe And

Josh

yeah, yeah, you like, we had no reason to trust you. But immediately we were like, Woman's from another planet Genius. Wow. Yes. You have a gift. So as a parent, thank you. So yeah, after that session, I was like, everyone needs access to this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Here we are. I feel you are legit getting it

Kimberly

to everyone. Yeah. Yeah. I, I feel the same way about it. That's why I think I'm so driven and so passionate about it. So I was in Nashville, Tennessee working on my music career. Woo. Yeah. And we all, we all were in Nashville. I know. I know. We, we were, we just barely missed each other, I had a chronic condition that had me in bed. Off and on for two or three years at such a young age. Like when I started questioning like, why are my doctor bills this high? I am 20 something years old. This doesn't make any sense. I was always taught that, you know, I was raised in a really strict religious home. Like, it's God doing it to you. It's the card you've been dealt, you know? Yeah. I didn't know mm-hmm. and I thought, well, why would God do this to me? You know, maybe it's me doing it to myself. Maybe I'm making myself sick. Mm-hmm. So I had tried everything. I changed my diet. I spent thousands of dollars. And right when I was about to literally commit suicide, I just had enough. I like looked up at the sky and I was like, if you don't bring me a life coach or something, I'm outta here. And the next day I met my breathwork coach. And I was 22, 23. So that's crazy. My body was trying to stop me, so I had a constant skin outbreak and it was so bad that mm-hmm. not even. Could take care of it. when you have a chronic condition that hardcore where you hate yourself, you hate your body, cuz why is my body doing this? Mm-hmm. And the more I had the skin flareups, the more I hated myself and it just was constant. So maybe I'd get like a five or six day break. If I did take meds, but then it came back two or three years of that and I had enough, and I just prayed that prayer, I'm like, just bring me a life coach or something and, and then I did my first breath work session and I felt my body, I felt getting all the oxygen. It was really gentle. and I felt my skin healing. it was the first time anyone had had ever told me that I was worthy, that I was innocent. Mm-hmm. no one's ever told me that I'm innocent. I was raised really strict Catholic upbringing, priests, nuns, you know, rulers on the desks. Yeah. Ki type of energy. Mm-hmm. And so it was the first time told someone told me I was innocent and that I could heal my body and I sat up for my very first breath work session. And I felt like my whole life has been robbed. why have we not been shown this at a really, really young age? Everyone needs to know that they could, they have access to this. And I was hooked. I just couldn't get enough. Yeah, I got breathwork session after breathwork session in, there was the first breathwork school was in n. it just started. this woman, she just started this breathwork School of Nashville, and so I breathed on a Thursday and she literally, after the session, she goes, Hey, I'm starting a breathwork school. Do you wanna come be a part of the training? And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I, I don't do school. Yeah. And she. Well just do it for yourself, cuz you'll get a lot of breath work sessions in there for like real cheap. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. And so I, I didn't take the breath work training to become a breath worker. I took it to heal my body cuz I had a lot of. Stuff in me. I had a lot hanging in the body from like childhood wounds and all kinds of stuff cuz when you're in a breath work session, it kind of shows you the layers that you're hanging onto and it just gently lets 'em go one little layer at a time. And so I knew I just, I wanted to heal my skin and I knew that, it's like my body told me, keep doing the breath work, getting all the oxygen. It's gonna cure you, but you gotta keep going with it. And so I did. I did the training. I didn't care about getting certified or anything like that, but I, I was the only one who didn't drop out of the school. Everyone dropped out like flies. Yeah. Yeah. it's not easy. Uh, You gotta process all your emotions Sure. And the traumas and all the stuff that comes up. And here we are 16 years later, I didn't Wow. Do it to become a breath worker, but I was gifted at it. Yeah. And I'm like, wow. I guess this is where life wants me to go, you know? So that's kind of my background with how I got into breath work. Yeah. Wow.

Josh

At least just based on my experience, it is incredibly gentle, but it forces you to process whatever your body's holding onto. Yeah. Which can be hard. Did you find that to be Yeah. Really intense. Inside of that training,

Kimberly

No, cuz I was ready for it. there were a couple times. Yeah, it was hard. I got real sick during the training. My body just would Sure. Like it would shut down cuz maybe it didn't wanna, I numbed a lot of stuff out from my childhood. So I kind of numbed out mm-hmm. during this one part of the training. And so yeah, it was hard. I probably drank a lot, you know, Yeah. I used to show. Yeah. said, Hey, listen, I, I like to party so I might be coming into these breath work sessions really hungover. And she's like, that's okay. Just come anyway. And eventually it got, it kinda sobered me up, you know.

Josh

Yeah. Oh, for sure. That's hysterical. It's like your hangover medication afterwards. yeah. Immediately releasing

Kimberly

your headaches. No, she, she's like, the breathing is the best thing for a hangover. And then I'd come in, breathe and I was back to normal again. So That's incredible.

Josh

So note everyone listening, if you know you're about to go out, just book Kimberly for the next morning.

Erin

Oh yeah. There you go. Oh yeah. Go. I do remember in that first session that we did, and then in subsequent sessions, anytime that you remind me, I think you said in the group session like, Hey, just so you know, there was maybe 400 people that signed up for this, and only 130 are still hanging on like. you guys are bad asses. Like good for you. And I, that was such motivation to me cuz one of my limiting beliefs about myself is that I can't do hard things. Mm-hmm. And so anytime in a session where you remind me like you are kicking ass. Oh yeah. Look at you breathing and going deep and going internal and all these things that are hard to do major motivation to me every time. Yeah. But I did

Kimberly

have, oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

Erin

Well, I was gonna say, I think I had talked to a friend once who tried breath work. I don't know if it was with you or not, but she felt kind of numb after and she was feeling like it was maybe. Sort of a protective response. Like she felt like if she had really gotten into the session that it would've been kind of a, trauma sort of response. And so do you ever feel like there's somebody who's not ready yet for breath work? Is that a thing or, I don't know. I'm curious to hear your thoughts

Kimberly

on that. Yeah. Well people who aren't ready, they might cancel, you know, right before the session or mm-hmm. a couple days and that's fine. they usually come back weeks or months later, so I never like, push it or force it. Yeah. For someone who gets numb. That's great cuz they're feeling something, you know, they're, they, hey, you're feeling numb. And they're like, well, it didn't work. I'm really numb and confused right now. Mm-hmm. it's like, oh, no, no, no, it worked. Just, just hang out you know? Yes. It's okay. sometimes I like to try to speak out that numbness and then they have the release like in a private session. But that numbness it's still good cuz they're feeling something and then maybe they try another breathwork session in five days or a week or so. Mm-hmm. and then they'll go a little bit deeper into it.

Josh

Yeah. it was like the second or third time, it might have been just Erin and I on it, but I remember feeling that emotion of numbness. And it was still like a really pleasant session, but then you stayed on with us for a little bit. And I don't know if you remember, I fucking sobbed. Oh, after, yeah. I remember. Yeah. And it just took like 10 minutes for my body to come down. Yeah. And then it fully released and I felt like I was on top of the world

Kimberly

after. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Josh

it truly is. Your body is just Yeah.

Kimberly

Gotta process through it. Yeah. So for people in the group sessions, I can't always see or hear everyone on there. So let's say they do get the numbness. I, I do invite them to stay just five, 10 minutes. Cuz that numbness will clear if they just gently keep breathing through it. Yeah. But most people, they feel something and then they leave the session and then they might have that numbness the rest of the day and be angry that they even did the session. It's like, wait, you know? So I always, I invite, totally invite people to just hang out until that numbness clears or the confusion or, sadness or whatever is coming up at that last little part of the hour. but most people, they do, as soon as they feel something, it's like fight or flight and they try to leave. I did it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I still get it and I am like, no, no, no, girl. Stay here. Just keep breathing through it it's releasing and then it usually does. Yeah.

Josh

Yeah. It seems like that'll happen earlier and earlier in my sessions, and then I'll be able to recognize it and now it's something that I feel like I can get over. And as soon as I get over that hump of numbness, 15 minutes in by 25 minutes, I'm hallucinating in some other universe. So There is this timidness of, yeah, feeling these feelings isn't always comfortable and there's almost like not a fight or flight response, but you are in this like protective arms closed. I don't wanna feel this yet, I don't wanna feel this yet, but if you can open up and relax and just really be present for whatever your body's going to inform you with, that's that numbness phase for me. Mm-hmm. trying to, Release my control, which on the podcast, Kimberly, we have talked so many times about my paralyzed moments, but on that last breathwork session I had with you where I started recognize I needed to release my grip, it's the same concept, just little by little in each session that I've done with Yeah,

Erin

I think the thing that I love most about breath work is that so often we're looking outside anywhere but within for our answers, which is just not, I mean, of course I'm the only one that holds my answers. Right? Like, it's not gonna be in a therapist

Kimberly

or, yeah. What's what we're trained to do, we're trained to, right? Mm-hmm. so it's just, yeah.

Erin

Yeah. So breath work, while you are an amazing guide, and I feel like you're holding my hand all the way through. You're walking through the depths of whatever I'm releasing or processing, it's still me doing my work, if that makes sense. So I think a lot of these modalities that people choose It's just tempting to wanna, again, outsource our own power to whoever's kind of guiding us. But that ain't the way it works. And yeah,

Kimberly

that's why like you're in, I, I, that's why I love taking people through one-on-one sessions. Cause they might be like, well, what should I do? And what's your advice? And I'm like, I'm not mm-hmm. I'm not a therapist. I don't know, but Yeah. But I know, when you breathe for the next hour, you're gonna get really. and you're gonna know what to do. Mm-hmm. I just say, worry. You're gonna get clarity and almost everyone. Mm-hmm. 99% of people get clarity by the end of a session. So the, all the answers are through the breath, but you, you don't know what I'm saying until you do a breath work session. So

Erin

it's, it's absolutely. I know even just hearing you, say like, we're gonna breathe for an hour. I remember the first time we sat down or lay down to breathe for an hour, I was like, holy shit, how am I gonna lay here just focusing on my breath for an hour? You can't explain to somebody what that feels like until you've done it. Yeah. It feels like a blink of an eye. Mm-hmm. and you were just discovering all these amazingly in depth layers of yourself. it's wild. Mm-hmm. And there's physical healing too. Mm-hmm.

Josh

but also it's like, I breathe all the time. Yeah. Yeah. What is this gonna do? I don't live without breathing, so what is an hour of me doing what I do? unconsciously. Yeah. Going to

Kimberly

do I get, I get my, that was my mentality. Yeah. I, and I, I, I'm the same way when someone's like, Hey, I, know someone and you're gonna do a breathing session. I'm like, I already breathe. I don't need to breathe. exactly. And, Even people around the small town that I live in, I get made fun of all the time. Like, wouldn't we be dead if we weren't breathing? You know, I get stupid shit like that all the time, and yeah, and then I'm like, oh, well if you were breathing properly, you wouldn't look like you were about to explode. Like your liver is stagnant, you know, yeah. We're just not breathing properly. And so like you think, oh, we're breathing all day every day. Well, why are we tired all the time? Well, we're barely taking in sips of air. We're waiting for a text message to come through or the other shoe to drop, and we're just, gripping our breath. this helps to get everything fluid and your creations fluid and just, you know, keeping everything. From. That stagnation, I guess. yeah, but we're not breathing properly, so that's why taking time, even if it's just three to five minutes, it helps so much. I mean, you,

Josh

you noticed that that's what I was gonna say. It's like three to five minutes into a session, or even if you're just in a meditation, breathing intentionally, you quickly realize that you actually weren't breathing appropriately because your body starts to tingle. Like your lips will tingle. You can feel, or your fingers

Kimberly

will tingle, youness, and your fingers of single, your heaviness in your body. Like, Ooh, I'm tight right here. Dang. I didn't know how tight I was until I deeper. Oh, yeah,

Josh

It's fascinating to see that our bodies are so tense. Period. Yeah. Mm-hmm. and 10 minutes in, you're on a whole nother ride.

Erin

My favorite thing I think that I've learned from you is this concept of your symptoms are a way that your body is trying to talk to you. a prompt that you often use is if your symptoms could speak, that what they're trying to say is mm-hmm. And if we're not taking time to be so aware Like you were talking about the areas that hold tension I mean, I could live days without noticing that I've got a slight headache or back pain or whatever. I'm just ignoring it. Mm-hmm. plowing through or just not aware. But our bodies are just like desperately trying to give us these messages and we slap a medication on it and take it away that way. or we just stir up, ignore it. And then that is just gonna cause, areas of imbalance and a whole cascade of, nasty things down the road. Mm-hmm. So I love breath work as a way of building awareness. Mm-hmm. and like you were talking about to begin with, it's like this love for your body again, these symptoms are not ways that your body is failing or showing you that it's an enemy. it's like a cry for help. Your body's like, please listen. Like, take time. Slow down, take a deep breath, love yourself again, Yeah, that's such a valuable lesson I've learned from you over

Kimberly

the last couple years. Yeah. It's one of my favorite things to do is show people that when they have a symptom, Hey, just take two minutes to breathe and just ask that pain, what it needs to say. yeah, that's almost more miraculous just doing that to me than a breathwork session because I've taken people through five, 10 minute sessions of just talking to their body and their body releases and the headache releases big time because they. chimed in for a couple minutes and said, Hey, what's going on? And they'll be like, I'm mad at you. I'm mad at this person. Or This is going on, or you need to stop. You're doing too much. and so everyone's messages that come in are so beautiful, and it's a really easy and fun practice to do.

Erin

it is. anyone who thinks that breath work is just for. emotional or like links to the physical body are just so Oh, yeah. Profound. I've definitely had a lot of experiences.

Josh

so Kimberly, a decent amount of the people that listen have either worked through chronic illness or currently in on the journey of chronic illness. Mm-hmm. something that we talk a lot about is, For me, when I was inside of that chronic illness state, my body was my enemy. It felt like my consciousness was at war with the vessel that my consciousness lived in. Wow and breath work helped me fall in love with my body again because I began to recognize that while the symptoms that I had may not fully extinguished with the breath, It helped me identify that the symptoms that my body were telling me. Your now infamous quote in our house if your symptoms could speak. What are they saying? It allowed me to recognize that my body is telling me something and it's working so hard to get my attention. And if I'm brutally honest with myself, well before I got into the chronic illness state, my body was attempting to give me signs and signals saying, Hey bro, I need help. And I wasn't listening, so it was. Interesting about breath work in and of itself is like Ruti and what the work that we're doing. There is this level of bioindividuality that exists all the way into breath work where Erin and I'll be like legit breathing next to each other and she's having a completely separate experience than I am. her and my journeys have been entirely separate. Her really getting in tune with herself and really knowing it, and I felt like I knew myself because of chronic illness, but I had such a hatred towards it that then once I fell in love with my body and was thankful through your prompts. That's when the hallucinations started. Mm-hmm. And that's when I was able to tap into something far outside of this little vessel that I'm in and feel like I was getting the downloads. I felt like something that wasn't me, was talking to me. Yeah. It's, it's crazy.

Kimberly

That's really beautiful and it's so powerful and yeah, how can we heal ourselves if we don't love ourselves? Right. It's like when I was telling you I had chronic skin conditions I just hated myself so much. I wanted to die. I didn't wanna be here anymore. Mm-hmm. and my body was just like, I love you. you know. But I didn't have the words at the time. Yeah. And it's like, they just wanted me to love it and not be so hard on myself. And that's so beautiful. Yeah. And that's, I am obsessed with breath work because it does show you how to love yourself and forgive yourself and forgive others, and let go. A and your, intuition, the more breath work you do. It's mm-hmm. crazy. You get downloads and inventions and your Angels talk to you and whatever it is, you know, it's just so pow. Yeah. So I, I get what you're saying. I love that for you It shows you like you're uniqueness. Yeah. That is it. It's empowering and how powerful you are. Mm-hmm. and no one ever told us how powerful we were. We were pushed away from.

Josh

yeah, I mean, we were just talking about that on the last podcast especially for people that grew up in any type of religion, we were taught not to trust ourselves, that trusting ourselves was selfish and dangerous. That we didn't have the answers. Yes, exactly. even that, I mean, there was this whole deconversion that we had in spirituality. Separately and together, and this was so empowering to be like all the answers that I need are, you're right here.

Kimberly

Mm-hmm. No. Why did that's, that's what I was saying. Yeah. They're all right here. My first breathwork session, I sat up, I'm like, Why didn't no one teach us this? I had it all here. I had no idea it was right here. Yeah.

Erin

it's crazy. I remember one of my first private sessions, I mean, we had just moved here and it was, I was so lonely and just for answers. Like, what am I supposed to do with my life? I really wanted more kids. And Josh didn't, and that was like a huge thing for me. And I remember trying to process this through therapy and it wasn't budging for me and I was like, Just feeling kind of lost in it all. And so it was the focus of one of my sessions I had just briefly met. Or actually I don't even think I brought it up in the beginning cuz it wasn't really what I wanted to, it

Kimberly

was like the second or third session in Oh, but as somewhere in there.

Erin

Yeah. Yeah. And I just remember I was breathing and I got what felt like. Contractions, which is crazy like it, I mean, they weren't as intense as true labor, but it was like, that is what it felt like when I was in labor. Interesting. so like, okay, if my symptoms could speak, what they're trying to tell me is what I realized was that I have so much power within me. I think what I was craving more so than even ano another child was like the. Power that I felt when I was pregnant, when I grew a human being and pushed it out and like created life. That's fucking powerful. Like I wanted to tap into that again. And what I figured out in that breathwork session was like, I don't have to get pregnant to experience that. I don't have to have a baby to ex, I can just fucking breathe and like, that is crazy. That was so monumental for me and really helped kind of shift that narrative that was getting stuck in a loop in my head. The, I mean, that's just one of, honestly, probably hundreds of experiences now that I've had in breath work that are just deeply transformative. Mm-hmm. Mm. I did wanna talk a little bit about different forms of breath work, because I think at least I came to you with kind of a preconceived notion of what breath work looks like. I thought it was very like whim, h like fast pace and like you're borderline hyperventilating and you're gonna be, passing out Yeah. So talk to us about the differences, like what are you doing compared to maybe other styles of breath work? Yeah,

Kimberly

so this used to be called rebirthing breath work. holo tropic breath work came in on the, in the sixties. Her birthing came in in the seventies and holo tropics, very intense. It's like, Yes it is. I it's not my cup of tea. Yeah. I don't, I'm not that extreme that's hardcore. I feel bad for people. Mm-hmm. who it is their first experience of breath work. Is that cuz that is so hardcore. Yeah, that's so true. Whim hoff's a total badass. I have so much respect for him. Mm-hmm. So this is rebirthing breath work I've tried all the different types of breath work. cuz it's gentle and you're not hyperventilating. So we're just taking it one breath at a time. And There's somatic breath work. Well, someone just slapped Soma Somatic in front of breath work. It's the same thing but I do watch, I do watch some breath work videos going on and they call it somatic breath work. And it looks like they're forcing people to breathe a certain way. And I'm like, dang, that's not, I mean, to me that's not breath work.

Josh

That is a good point though. because when I first started breath work, I only really knew of what breathing was in like the apps, mindfulness apps that I was using. Mm-hmm. and all of those types of breath work were really intense. Yes. So yes. When somebody recommended, Hey, try Kimberly's breath work session, I was like, holy shit, in hour of me, I will be dead. I will be passed out unconscious and somebody's gonna have to bring me back to life because there is no, I was struggling with. Eight minutes of a whim off, you know? Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. So that is something actually we've never talked about on this or with others, is that this style of breathing is freeing. You're just being more intentionally conscious. Yeah. Of your inhales and exhales. Sometimes it's through my nose because my mouth gets super dry. and then sometimes it's through my mouth. Mm-hmm. I've had the same effect with both. What is probably the most helpful inside of your sessions though, this is without a doubt, obviously more predominant in the one-on-one sessions, but you guide us in The pace of breathing. So when we first start the breath work sessions and you're getting us into the mindset Yeah. Of breathing. I'm just following your breath. Mm-hmm. and you get me into a subconscious rhythm that wasn't there before. Breath work that I can then take through the rest of the time and go

Kimberly

off into my Totally. so what happens, what I've realized was, Even the way I was trained, we were trained to like kind of push and force people into the session, and then I realized, mm-hmm well, when you push and force people to do something, the restriction comes in. And so a lot of other types of breath work, not that it's wrong or bad, do whatever works for you, but when you're forcing the breath and you're doing it fast and doing it hard, the body contracts and it grips. you're forcing a release to happen. And so people get all excited cuz Ooh, something's happening, but it doesn't feel good for me. It feels like I'm hyperventilating I've stopped doing certain types of breath work because I'm like, dude, there's a way to do it that it feels good and your body's releasing, but it feels good. Mm-hmm. anyway, yeah. So what I realized, If I can make someone feel safe, give them 5, 10, 15 minutes to ease into it, that way there's no pressure. They're not beating themselves up for not doing it. Right. I try to gain their trust first and then ease them a little bit deeper. You know, let's invite 20% more on the inhale and I've just taken what I've liked and leave the rest and kind of formed the sessions away so. The body can gently release and it doesn't have to be numb all over, you know, tingling in the lips. that might happen. Yeah. But I do it in a more gentle way, Well I love Wim Hoff, but they're like doing warrior style and then it, it's a lot. Yeah. So, It is, it's intense.

Erin

I also love that it just feels so safe to me because, As opposed to when you're doing, say, like a psychedelic or I don't know, ayahuasca or something, like, you are stuck in that experience once you take your dose, you're in it, right? Yeah, yeah. As opposed to with breath work. if there is a moment in time, which doesn't happen often to me anymore, but if something feels too intense, like if the tingles are too much or if I feel a wave of an emotion that for whatever reason, I'm just not quite ready to let go of. You can always slow down your breath and like take a drink of water, you know, like you're not stuck in this and then jump right back in and your body can gently release then. But that has always made me feel super safe in your sessions. Yeah. Cuz I know I'm not out of control. I have control over mm-hmm. of my breath. Mm-hmm.

Josh

your body knows too, even when I'm in my hallucinations and my third eye is fucking open. I'm getting some random beam of light that's coming down from the sky. I'm not there, that's for sure. the only reason I know I'm breathing is cuz you're on the other side somewhere. I'm not even conscious anymore that I am breathing. I never once feel fear because one, I know you're there, but two, your body knows if it needs to stop, it's gonna stop. Mm-hmm. And so when I go into like those unconscious. I have complete confidence now, and I, do think that level falling back in love with my body was one of those gateways to get there because I was able to put trust in my body to be like, Hey, I'm gonna go to this other world, tap out if you need me to come back. I gently come back every single time and it's like, Okay. I processed whatever, or I got a downloader of whatever, and my body's done with that, and all of a sudden I recognize that I'm consciously breathing again. And I hear you talking on the other side. Gently

Kimberly

bringing you back, so, yeah. Yeah. And you know people, yeah, it's cool. Don't fly to the Amazon and go drink ayahuasca or whatever, and hey, if you have the right breath worker, they can take you on that journey. And it's not, you're not gonna be vomiting. And it's not an eight hour hallucination. Mm-hmm. It's just real gentle and it's for an hour session. And I mean, I've had a lot of people who do ayahuasca, they say, wow, that was like an ayahuasca experience, you know? Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Yeah. I don't tell people that cuz I don't wanna freak people out, but

Josh

Each breathwork session is pretty different too. Your body's work, like there is a level of the here and now. What your body may need to work on something that was just in the past week or it may work on something when you were five. Yeah. Or

Kimberly

your

Erin

birth. Or your birth. Which like blew my mind when I figured that out. Yeah. The birth ones when you talk, because you said it's called rebirthing. Yeah. Right. Rebirthing breath work. Yes. And I at first just didn't really pay attention to that. But then I would hear you on social talking. Birth patterning. And I honestly would raise my eyebrow and be like, what the hell is she talking about? Like, there's no way My birth is still impacting me present now. Right.

Kimberly

But I thought the same thing. That's, that shit's real I thought the same thing slash it does. I, I'm like, your birth has nothing to do with your pattern. well, I always know when someone shows up super early to a breathwork session, I'm like, okay, preemie, they came out of the womb early. I can just guess their birth. You know? That's patterns. Patterns with time, patterns with money, relationships. I mean, we're downloading all this information in our mother's womb. yeah, I've heard thousands of people's birth stories and I can tell like if people get stuck, maybe they got stuck in the womb and so the brain and the body, Hmm. That's how they transition through things. They get stuck and then they might be there a minute and then they'll move through it. So that's why Another reason why breath work, this type of breath work's so powerful because I got to train with a woman who's been studying people's births and their patterns and how their. Affects their lives later on. Oh, wow. She's been doing this for over 60 years. 60. And I got to train under her and I just ate it up. three years of listening to her talk about people's births, and I'm like, wow, this is some crazy shit, man. But so they called it rebirthing breath work cuz Leonard or the founder of Rebirthing Breath work he was in a sauna. The sauna said, don't stay in here longer than 15 minutes. He's like, oh, I wonder what'll happen if I stay in here longer? So they ended up pulling him out like forceps pulled him out of the sauna an hour and a half later. he got into this breathing pattern. It was like he was in the womb. when he came back to consciousness, cuz you know, it kind of blasts you out. He's like, I saw my mom, she was knocked out on the table. They had to pull me out. I wasn't wanted His head was huge. So he got stuck in the womb. He's never felt wanted his whole life. His parents didn't want him. They were gonna give him up for adoption, you know, and so he was able to process not being wanted and the stuckness, so, he saw it and then it healed from his body. wow, why do I think the way I think, why do I, why do I do that? why does this keep happening to me? Mm-hmm. Well if you go back to. Conception, nine months in the womb and your birth, it explains a lot. my parents thought I was supposed to be a boy, so when I came out another girl, it was such a disappointment and my whole life, I have my whole life. Interesting. My whole life I have felt like such a disappointment as a girl. I have overcompensated. I've gotten people fired from their jobs way back when. I have over the top, had to prove myself. you know, and sometimes I can catch it on, I, you know, I'll catch myself feeling like I'm a disappointment and I'm so hard on myself. You know, Erin, you're like my buddy. When we're not doing good, let's text each other. I know

Erin

as soon as we had enough breathwork session, I was like, Kim, if you are ever questioning whether or not you were living out God's purpose in your life, like please text me and I will walk you back off the list.

Kimberly

So there's millions of layers to everyone's. I have so many stories about birth, I can meet someone and tell them all about their patterns just by the way they talk. and so through the breath work, it helps you move through layers of those patterns cuz It rewires the thoughts. most of the time when I'm in a breathwork session for myself, my mind is like, this ain't working. This ain't working. it ain't gonna get better. You know, it's just drilling me. And then I get through the session and it's like, boom, there you are. There's your magic, there's your, like, I got this. I'm just like, go getter again.

Erin

way I tend to describe, like if somebody asks me what breath work is like, kind of the simplest explanation I like to give is it takes something that may be like a logical, like head knowledge, something I know I should think is true about myself or about the world. For instance, I can do hard. I know, in my head I know that, but when I am able to breathe through, like when I have a transformational experience and breath work, my cells believe that. Yes. Like it's in my bone. Yes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it takes it from just information and it integrates it. Yes. Somehow,

Kimberly

I'll tell you, fabric of my being. Yes. And I love, I'm so glad you said that because in a session you're knowing this comes in and then when you know what you need or what needs to happen next or. Whatever it is that you just processed, then things can materialize for you, So as soon as I know, then boom, all the miracles happen. It's like people wanna know how to manifest. Yeah. if you know in your core what you need in the moment. like before you two came into my life, I was thinking, God, I really need someone to help me with my website. It's so awful. and then I said, maybe they'll trade me breath work. I'll trade them forever. Let's work for a new website. I need like a. $5,000 website? No. And then like, not even a week later. Yeah. But I knew, I breathed on it. I did a breath work session. I'm like, what do I need right now for my business? I need a new website cuz this one sucks. this one's making people go away from me cuz it's so unprofessional. And then you came in like within a week. But I knew, I knew in the, that's, that's crazy. I don't get to talk about this, but breath work is like a genie in a. one time. Yeah. That is what it feels like. I had eight days to come up with $4,000 and I was struggling so hard. I was str, I barely had $500 in my account and I'm like, wow, really? I have eight days to come up with four grand shit. Okay. And I breathed for an hour and then I heard this voice say, I got you, gimme a couple days. And then boom, I had four. I don't, I don't get to share that with many people, but it is like a genie in a bottle and you just come in, you show up. Mm-hmm. and the breath shows you, like, I have enough, I don't, I'm good. when you feel like you have enough, then the magic, you know? Then the abundance can come in cuz you're like, I'm good. I got a roof over my head. Totally. I got a car.

Erin

you're not clawed anymore. Yeah. Like you're open to, the universe, the flow. Yeah. Whatever it needs to like be flowing freely through you to Yes. Receive those things. Yeah. Yeah. I've had so many breath work sessions where like the week, sometimes two weeks, sometimes a month following, it feels like I'm living in a high definition. Like colors are brighter, smells are more pot. Food tastes better. It's just like you have leveled up somehow. But I just think it's because I've cleared out all that stale energy, all the things that weren't serving me any longer, and it opened me up to like bigger, brighter, literally Brighter Yeah. Things.

Josh

Yeah. I mean, every single breath work session, it feels like

Kimberly

you're leveling up. Yes. Further. Further. I got breath work in once a week for like almost the first. I did a, breathwork session. Oh, wow. Cause wanted to heal my body. I felt like my body was saying, just do this for nine months and you'll be healed. And it did, it totally cured my skin. So, and I thought, wow, all I was doing was breathing. That's it. Like, that's crazy. It just did it itself. That's

Josh

the craziest part. But

Kimberly

yeah, it's crazy. Anything's possible.

Erin

For sure Breathwork has like no hesitation in saying this completely changed the trajectory of my life, both of our lives. Yeah. professionally, I just, I've had so many breakthroughs through breathwork. I didn't think I had it in me, you know? And then you tap into this, never ending, bottomless well of, life force and energy. All it takes is just a few deep breaths to access it. Mm-hmm. and then it's like, oh, this is how people live big, beautiful lives. You know, they're just tapped in. Yes.

Kimberly

Mm-hmm. Yeah. They're, they're tapped into their essence and they're gifts. You're mm-hmm. you're just tap, tap, tap in. Yeah. I dunno, I'm obsessed with breath work,

Josh

Us too, as every listener knows. Yeah. We talk about, that's all we talk about

Erin

It's just so, monumentally powerful. Yeah. And especially just because we work with so many people with chronic illness mm-hmm. And it's tricky to sometimes describe the connections between emotional and physical. They're so intertwined. And often though, what people hear is I'm causing my own illness, I'm thinking myself into being sick or even worse, like I'm making it up, like I'm not actually sick. It's all in my head. And that is like, not at all what we're trying to say or preach. It's, the two are just so deeply intertwined that if you can access that, Whatever that emotional power, that freedom, all these things that we're talking about, the physical stuff is going to benefit. Like you're gonna see improvements

Kimberly

there. And so I'm showing up to breathwork school, hungover, and I ate Wendy's three days a week. Right? I'm eating fast food almost every day. I'm sing, I'm singing downtown Nashville. I'm partying every night. And my body was still healing cause I was, I was working on the emotion. and then eventually that shifted. I can't eat fast food anymore. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm thinking, dang, I was working on all the emotional and yeah, I'd go stuff it down with some numbed out food and drinks, but I still was doing the work. I was doing some, you know, the work I get a lot of chronic clients because I went through it. Yeah. Yeah. and just about died. it just comes with it. Like, I got myself through that horrible time. Yeah. So that's kind of what I do with other people. And a lot of people mm-hmm. they're taking the supplements, they've done everything, but they haven't worked on the emotional yet. So that's, breath work is just totally mm-hmm. it's kind of all in one really. Yeah. It's all in one.

Josh

Yeah. I mean, I did eight months of emdr. Once a week one and a half hours every single time. And it was life changing. Yeah. It didn't tap in like

Erin

breathwork did. Oh God. what I'm able to accomplish in one hour of breathing would take me months. Right. Of therapy. Traditional, whether it's emdr, I mean, EMDR was faster for sure for me, but

Kimberly

I dunno. There's nothing like it. Crazy. Even my first session, I processed 20 something years of my life in an. I thought. Yeah. And what I mean by that is I saw every time I was shamed growing up, I saw every moment in my life where the nuns shamed me. Yeah. Or teachers, or called me stupid. Oh, wow. And I was scared as a little girl. Mm-hmm. I was just so scared no one could see me and be like, here, go this way. instead of someone helping me through all my insecurities as a really little girl, I was shamed for it. and I just wanted to, to die. Wow. And so I saw all the layers of shame and punishment. So I always felt like I wasn't good, I wasn't worthy, and I was wrong. I always felt wrong. And I saw 20 something years in my first session. So not everyone, not everyone experiences that. It's just you experience whatever you're ready to see. Sure. It's so individual. Yeah. It's very, yeah,

Josh

we love you so much. I love you

Erin

so much. We do.

Josh

okay. Y'all The craziest we've

Kimberly

never met person. I know. We, I know, I know. I feel like you're my

Erin

sister.

Josh

Not even joking. Your family. Zoe is, this is Auntie Kimberly Yeah, for sure. And you have very literally changed our lives. Mm-hmm. and are changing others. And as a result, those people are changing. No,

Erin

the ripple effect is wild here. Like,

Kimberly

We're, we're working. That's right. You are a Lightworker,

Josh

my friend. Oh, thank you. Mm-hmm. Okay. I have, two quick things before we go. One, how can people

Kimberly

find you? The, the fastest way on my Instagram breathe with Kimberly Rose. That's super fast. Mm-hmm. I get back to everyone who writes me. She does it's breathe underscore with underscore Kimberly Rose. Okay. Anyway. Beautiful. And then or my website that you built, Breathe with Better

Josh

one's coming. Y'all better one's coming. It's beautiful. It's,

Kimberly

it's with kimberly rose.com and, yep. So that's, yep, that's how you could reach me.

Josh

Tap in. And you do, you, group breath work sessions that are super

Kimberly

affordable. Oh

Erin

yeah. Super affordable. Great way to test it out. YouTube

Kimberly

for free

Josh

resources. Yeah. Y'all tap into this so fast. I know. We've said it. And the infamous Kimberly now is proven to exist. She's real. Y'all need to tap in and utilize her Beautiful work. Okay, last question we ask everyone. What

Erin

is freedom to you?

Kimberly

Freedom to me is Being able to just live this life how you want to, I mean, I've been working on that Yeah. For a long time. is that so cliche, No, no freedom. It's profound. That was awesome. Meeting people like you, that's freedom to me. You know? That makes my soul free and, mm-hmm. Yeah. someone told me that it took me many, many lifetimes to master freedom, and she's like, You've done it. So when I don't feel free, I freak out. Mm-hmm. but I, that's good. I have created, yeah. As of breath work and it's the magic within I have been able to create my life so free, no one tells me what to do. I am my own boss. Yeah. She's out there in an rv. Yeah. Li's got one freaking living, so I, I hope I answered that right.

Josh

beautiful. There is no wrong way to

Erin

answer that. Let's, that's the point. Oh is, this is so good. And this is gonna be a part one of like, you know, 60, a 72 part series. So just Yeah. Stay tuned,

Josh

everyone.

Erin

You're just gonna be our third co-host. No,

Josh

I'm just kidding. No, we for real,

Kimberly

love you. I love you guys so much. I'm beyond grateful you so much. Thank you. Love you.

Josh

Love you. Well y'all, thanks for listening. We love you. Love you. Bye.