Erin

Hi everybody.

Josh

What a do baby boo. Hi,

Erin

how are you?

Josh

Good. Headed to San Francisco today. Jealous. I'm pretty excited. Going to like a mindfulness conference. That's gonna be fun.

Erin

Yeah, it'll be really fun. Tell the people who is

Josh

speaking actor Gabo. Is that how you say his name? I don't actually know. Geber. Gabber.

Erin

That guy. He's brilliant.

Josh

Yeah. I'm excited to see him. Young Pueblo's talking, so cool. Yeah. I'm stoked

Erin

about that. it's a conference about meditation, but also ai. Is that also intertwined? It's very,

Josh

It's tech integrated, okay. The founder of OpenAI is speaking I think her name's Tammy, the founder of the call map is speaking. Cool. So yeah, it's like a mindfulness with tech integration. So there's a lot of topics of in ai. This is mindfulness entrepreneur. Yeah. I'm very excited for you. Mindfulness entrepreneurship with AI integration. So yeah, it's gonna be cool. Yeah, I'm excited about it. Good. so that's happening today.

Erin

Yeah. Josh is leaving Zoe and I for six whole days, which has never happened in Zoe's lifetime. We're not like separate travelers

Josh

historically. No. We were just talking about those before the podcast came on. We were like, are we codependent? it doesn't feel like that. It just feels like when I would take business trips, I'd be like, why not come?

Erin

We have companion pass. Like just didn't make sense for us not to always, yeah. Tag along. Yeah, we've always traveled together. And this time Josh is going solo. He's actually going with my dad, which is hilarious. I love Brother Bunny, little father son trip.

Josh

Father son-in-law

Erin

trip. Yes. You guys gonna snuggle?

Josh

Yeah, for sure. I'm the, he better be this little spoon. Cause I am the big,

Erin

I know Josh and I we still fall asleep spooning every night after every single night. How long have we been married? Nine years

Josh

Going on nine. Nine is Mo or in May.

Erin

Yeah. Yep. Wow. So for nine years. We have pretty much every night spooned except for maybe a handful of nights where you've been gone or I've been gone. Yeah. But yeah, it's crazy. So I'll spoon Nala and you can spoon Bob. She's not fun to spoon. No she isn't. Yeah. Nala's her dog. But yeah,

Josh

excited about it. It'll be good. Good. I'm stoked to be on the West coast because my astrocartography line for professional success. Goes straight through San Francisco. That's exciting. Really exciting. I've really gotten into Astrocartography recently. And so essentially what that is based on your date and time of when you were born and where you were born and where you were born. Yeah. The alignment of the planets has an impact energetically on locations in the world of where you can be. And then there's harmonious and disharmonious lines also that could contribute to the energy based on the location. Interestingly enough, Columbus has a line that's going directly through it, like literally over our house And being on a line energetically is incredibly powerful. They suggest they, as in like experts in this, suggest that you live within a hundred miles of the line. Okay. Because from an energetic perspective, living online could be pretty intense. Oh. But I live, we live on a disharmonious line for me. We

Erin

actually both have a disharmonious line through Columbus, which is really fascinating. And I would have rolled my eyes at this shit. Actually, I did, rolled my eyes at this. Yeah, you did for a long time. I was like, okay, Josh. He just needs an excuse to move to the West Coast Uhhuh. But after reading like the disharmonious lines for each of us, it, I mean it tracks like, Perfectly. It's bizarre actually. And I have been more and more into astrology and human design, which are different, but overlap. Yeah. Somehow it's true. I don't really get it. I can't explain it, but somehow there's truth

Josh

in it. Yeah. So we both have disharmonious lines that go through it, but I also have a harmonious line that goes through essentially Dayton, which is okay, I don't know, an hour and a half west of us, southwest of us. Anyways, that harmonious line directly correlates to my experience as well. So it talks about how this is a line for you to heal. Oh yeah. And then use that healing and spread it with the world. Crazy. And you're like,

Erin

what? That's exactly what happened here. Yeah, a hundred percent. And then what is your disharmonious line? The

Josh

disharmonious line is professional and personal. Drought. Really. Yeah. It's not necessarily failure, but it says you could have a loss of job or your profession could be really difficult. Ding ding. Yes.

Erin

We won't get into the

Josh

details. No, but it has been pretty difficult the past couple months. Yeah. For all various reasons, but been good in it, but there's been a transition.

Erin

And then my disharmonious line through Columbus, which again, when I read it was like, oh my gosh. Cuz we both feel very content here. Yep. In a lot of ways. But we've been here for two years and and I know there are two and a half. Yeah. I know there are cool people here. Like I go to the farmer's market and, you could just like tell somebody's vibe, I'm not judging a book by it's cover necessarily, but I'm like, I know there's cool people here. Why are we friends with none of them? Yeah. And like, where are our people? Where is our soul family? Like I just, it's so frustrating to me. Yeah. And I keep thinking like, maybe when Zoe's in school we'll meet parents or maybe, who knows? But it's not like I'm not putting myself out there. You've actually put

Josh

yourself out there a lot. I know. More than

Erin

you ever have. I just feel so much friction with community for whatever reason here. And I felt it to some degree in Nashville too, but not

Josh

like this. No. We had friends in Nashville. Yeah. I think we didn't, we lost friends or, I don't even know if I wanna say lost. No. Friendships, just grew up apart. Grew apart mostly because I was so sick. Right. We were ice isolat. There was a lot

Erin

of confusion. Yeah. And so the first year here was very much intense, deep healing work. And we were for sure insulated and isolating ourselves for that. Yeah. It was just a necessary season. But now we've been out in the world here for at least a year and if not 18 months. Yep. And I just feel like I'm hitting my head against a ceiling or something. Community-wise, I don't

Josh

know what that means. We meet a lot of nice people. Yeah. It's just they don't become our community.

Erin

They're, it's not our soul family. And when I read the Disharmonious line for me in Columbus, it's all about loneliness and like loss of friendship. Yeah. Lack of community. So I'm like,

Josh

all right. It's crazy. This tracks. Yeah. So we actually have a couple overlaps in our harmonious, and then our main lines, a few are in like Salt Lake area, salt Lake City. And then the rest are on the west coast. And it's interesting because mine have a lot to do with my profession. Which matters to me. And yours has a lot to do with community. Which matters to me. Yeah. Yeah. So we may be uh, dabbling over there a little bit more often than we have been, but my Jupiter line, which is professional success, literally goes directly through San Francisco. So I'm stoked to see what happens. Bringing a shit ton of Rudy that's for sure. Hand 'em out like candy. I'm just gonna hand 'em out. Yeah. And you get back under your eyes. Here you go.

Erin

Even if you get nothing from this conference, which I know you will. But Yeah, just being in a coffee shop in San Francisco is, we love San Francisco. I know. Yeah. We went there on our honeymoon. It's like very nosal. Yeah. Your

Josh

body piercing license there.

Erin

Forgot about that. That also happened. I pierced a few people. Yep. Including

Josh

a few nipples. Yeah. Not mine, but yeah. I'm stoked about it. It'll be good. Yeah. The change of scenery is going to be something that I think I'm gonna appreciate more when I'm there. Yeah. But I know that it's really needed for me right now. There's a lot of just stress and, yeah. Unknowns and we're just working through a lot right now. Mm-hmm. Rudy is doing so well, which is really exciting, but we're at that point where we need to start to figure out how we flex. So New site just came out yesterday, which is really awesome. New homepage, product page. It's so pretty. Journals, blogs. The about page is close to being done. New account page, the whole legal side to cover everyone's asses. So yeah, it's awesome. And then the app is, we're in deep talks with it. So yeah, there's a lot of good coming out of it, but I just need to be inspired again. And I think one travel does that to me automatically, but the West Coast is always where I'm drawn, yeah, it'll be good.

Erin

Bring home some ocean for me. Just put it in a

Josh

jar. I should I was depending on where we're at, the first thing I thought of was like, oh, I need to bring some bread back. Oh, tar

Erin

from Tart Bakery. Yep. Ugh. Best sourdough that ever existed. When

Josh

like dads go in and they bring their kids back. Toys. I'm just gonna bring my kid back up all over. Bread. Bread. We did

Erin

that once for somebody in San Francisco with Brad and Jen. Brad and Jen. Yeah. We brought them back a loaf of bread. Yep. Good times. Yeah. How are you doing? I'm good. Yeah. Life has been a little bit stressful, I would say. I think just the fear of the unknown. Yeah. Again, I don't wanna get into the dirty details, but we just have a lot of pressure on our shoulders right now. Mm-hmm. And. Yeah. We're managing, I think breath work has been huge for us. Both huge.

Josh

I had two that rocked my

Erin

ass. Yeah, I was just about to say for the very first, I've done, I don't even know how many breath work sessions at this point. A lot. 40 maybe. Plus I, I don't know. Yeah. But for the very first time I had a breath work session where I didn't feel better at the end. Which was so weird. And I was not panicking, but I was just like, ugh. Like where's the piece? Where's the bliss? Yeah. I usually get to the end of a session and I'm like literally feeling like I'm in heaven. And this last time I was just like, so swirly. Like I could I could just feel all the like, anxious energies swirling in my chest. Yeah. a night cleared a lot during that session. I think I sobbed like three times just. All, a lot of it around fear, like fear of failure, fear of the unknown, fear of change. Like just all of it felt really overwhelming and scary. So I like sobbed my brains out a few times and that was helpful. But I still had the swirlies after. Yeah. But after a good sleep and like some, just nourishing food and all of that, I definitely feel more settled a few days later, which is nice. It's a, oh,

Josh

it's interesting because you and I had a similar experience in that breath work session. It was a group breath work session and we were breathing next to each other. I saw, it felt like wailing because I was crying so much that there wasn't time for it to be a tear drop. It was just like a constant flow of water. But it both took us a couple days. Yeah. And that's never happened to me. 48 hours later I did feel really good. Where I was like, whoa, I feel okay. I released. Yeah. But it took a

Erin

second. And I feel, I mean, Kimberly and I are always talking about this, but a lot of people that are in like the energy space or, consciousness space. Yeah. It's hard to know cuz I feel like somebody's always saying this there's a lot of things happening right now. Yeah. Energetically. Yeah. Like the planet's consciousness is shifting, changing, lifting and so we're all releasing a lot of stuff right now. Yeah. But it feels true. I don't know how they even measure that or know that, but I feel it. I don't

Josh

know. Yeah. There's definitely been shifts. Yeah. And then I had another one yesterday. I had scheduled that one a while ago in preparation to just be in the right mind space for the week. And boy did they rock me again. I thought I was gonna go back to my look out of body experiences, but I had to fucking work through things. Yeah. And both were so painful for me. Really, my calf for some reason is a dominant point of pain. Interesting.

Erin

And I kind of wanna look that up, like from a Oh yeah. I would actually be really curious a either traditional Chinese medicine or Hi, Xito would be

Josh

like, is

Erin

this a blood clot? I know.

Josh

This is a way different pain. This honestly feels like I worked out my calves.

Erin

Have you ever. Tried the, if your symptoms could speak. What, yeah. Did that, what

Josh

comes up? It was fear Okay. the last time I had that was in November. And it was saying that I was, I had a too tight of a grip on life. Okay. Like I was trying to control everything. Yeah. There is like you're saying, a lot of unknowns. We're working through a lot of new territory. Yeah. And I think what I've been trying to do is be like the super optimistic Yeah. Focusing on spiritual abundance, constantly finding the good in everything that's going on. And I think I maybe went too far and wasn't acknowledging what actually was. Sure. Yeah. Which was me being really scared. Yeah. Of all the new things, what's going on, things like that. So acknowledging it felt really good. I'm more at peace than, I was before Good, that's for sure. But yeah, unknowns are terrible.

Erin

Ugh. Why though? It's so funny to me. Yeah, I think evolutionarily we're, our brains are nervous. Systems are wired to keep us safe and survive. And so safe is familiar. Safe is, what we know already. So I guess it does make sense. That change,

Josh

evolutionarily though. Wow. Is that a word? Yeah. What were we thinking about, hundreds of years ago, what was what we were gonna eat? And now it's like we have everything coming at us at every different angle. Yeah. And because of that, we have to be insanely more organized with everything. Not even just finances, just like we have to coordinate so many things on a daily basis. Our brains haven't evolved that much. No. To be able to withstand 52,000 new decisions on a daily basis. And that's just average, right? Like I own two companies, so I'm making decisions every other minute. Yeah. Big ones.

Erin

Not just big ones. Should I brush my teeth? Although you should.

Josh

Yeah. The answer for that one is you shouldn't have to make a decision for that, just do it. Eliminate one out of the 53,000. So yeah, it's super fascinating. It's fascinating. How

Erin

is he doing? I feel like that covers most of it. I have been cooking a lot more. Sometimes I go through slums work, cooking feels like such a chore. But now it's more of my creative outlet again, which is fun. It is

Josh

10000% your creative outlet. Yeah. And the response of people is so fantastic. I know, your recipes are slamming Thanks. Coming from somebody that gets to experience them. Yeah, you're welcome. They're so good. Thanks. But yeah, it's actually something we wanna talk about today because food is such a huge conversation and not only the holistic wellness base, but on pretty much every scan result, you're gonna see some sort of nutritional sensitivity. And. That could be really daunting. When I first started in bioenergetics and got my first scan back, it was like so many food sensitivities.

Erin

Mm-hmm. And just your in real life, we were noticing a lot of things that you were eating were creating, destroying me symptoms. Yeah. It was really frustrating, like brain fog and fatigue and all these things just Yep. It felt like every day there was something new that you couldn't eat, which was really

Josh

frustrating. Yeah. But even before we found all of that out, food still was your creative outlet. You were really enjoying it. Yeah. It took a couple years into our marriage. Yeah. You

Erin

were the chef for the first like year or two. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh

But then you kind fell into it because it, you started to recognize that it was creative

Erin

for you. Yeah. there was something weird that happened when you did get sick and we both decided okay, lifestyle matters. Yeah. Like we need, it's not like we were, we probably weren't even necessarily eating the standard American diet. Like, I mean, I was paleo. Before you

Josh

even got sick. Oh yeah. I mean, I was a personal trainer for two years. Yeah, you were. I was so intensely paleo.

Erin

Yeah, that's true. So, you know, I had dabbled in, these different diets and things before, but something about the restriction or like the limitations that were placed on my cooking via your body, it forced me to get really creative. Yeah. And I love food. I think I've said this probably 9 million times already on this podcast. Food is my greatest pleasure in life. I love to taste it, smell it, look at it like it's just, it's an art I feel like, and too have restriction or limitation on what I could eat felt really frustrating. I dunno. Yeah. Like to me, I was like, I wanna go have a piece of cheesecake. Screw you Josh. Yeah. But instead, then it forced me to be like, okay. Can I make cheesecake out of cashews? And you can, it's not gonna be exactly the same, but I don't know. After doing a couple rounds of whole 30, early on taught me how to use different ingredients. It inspired me to use more, plants and whole foods in my And spices. Yeah. And spices. It's like you learn how things work together. it's just a skillset set. Like any other thing. You can learn how to do it. But I do have a lot of conversations with people on consults. Say they're not resonating well with probably our most common food sensitivities that we see are or just grains of all kinds. Dairy. Dairy is a very common one. soy, first of all, let me talk about the, from a bioenergetic perspective, what does that even mean on a report when you see these energetic sensitivities? So when we introduce the energetic code or signature of these foods to your samples, the frequency in a unit of hertz, of your samples either jumps up real high or dips down real low out of the optimum range. if it jumps up high, that tells us that food is causing inflammation. At an energetic level to your body, and then if it dips down real low, that's showing us that food is causing weakness in some way in your body. And in food

Josh

sensitivities, we know between, what is it, 49 and 59 hertz. Is the sweet spot. Yeah. And so if you go above that or below that, or we're able to recognize how bad that sensitivity

Erin

is, On either end, whether it's high or low. The further it is from that optimum range is the more intense, that food sensit you're gonna feel. Sensitivity is. Yeah. So we have hopes and dreams and plans in the future for Rudy to be able to, oh, we have the data. Yeah. It's gonna happen. Yeah. Right now it just lists off anything that's out of that optimum range. eventually it'd be really helpful to show clients how far out of optimiz the severity meaning, say corn for you was at, above. A 48 Yeah. One point below you're gonna feel that a lot less than say so is at 40. Yeah. Which is sending your energy like way off kilter. So that can be helpful to know, especially if somebody has a ton of food sensitivities. But a couple things to note about food sensitivities. Number one, they're not a life sentence. sometimes people get their first report back and they're like, gluten, dairy, soy, corn. I'll never be able to do that forever. Yeah. And no, like we don't even want you to do that forever necessarily. My goal is food freedom. Like I love food. I want you to love it too. Yeah. I think it's a beautiful part of life. in this healing period, in this season, we're gonna use food as medicine for a period of time. Yeah. And we're gonna learn some new things. it sounds, or it feels so complicated, but like corn for example, so many recipes will call for corn starch to thicken a sauce or something. There is a very simple alternative. You can use arrow root slurry. Instead, you just use some arrow root, add some water, stir it up, and there's your about a bang corn star tree replacement. That is so easy. Yeah. If you don't know, you don't

Josh

know. One thing that helped me with this is, One. Yeah. It's not a life sentence, which you quickly realize because on each scan your sensitivities are shifting. But it's really recognizing that hey, I have this information that's telling me that my body isn't vibing with this. And it literally could just be like, holy shit, I fart like crazy after I eat corn. Oh. or it could be like, wow, brain fog is nasty right now after I ate gluten or whatever. But what that allows us to do from like an answers perspective is aid the body in beginning to find its balance as you're working through some intense remedies. Killing or even just aiding in attacking some pretty heavy duty toxins. Mm-hmm. And so if I can stay away from A, B, C, D, a, FG so my body doesn't have to focus on. Working through that while it's working so hard on things that actually are gonna matter. Why wouldn't

Erin

you do that? Yes. It is such a love gift to your body. And I try to frame it that way on consults because when you look at that page of sensitivities and you're just thinking, holy shit, there's no way I can do this. That feels so restrictive. Yeah. especially at this day and age, which I love that there's like this body positivity movement, we're all talking about loving our bodies right now. Yeah. it feels like society is putting a big middle finger up to this restrictive, diet culture that has formed. Women are like, I don't care to be 90 pounds anymore. I want to take up space. Great. I love that. And so sometimes it feels like, being restrictive and not eating gluten, dairy, soy, whatever, me falling into that of restrictive eating. And you gotta flip the script a little bit because there are people who can literally eat whatever they want and may or may not have symptoms. I think we're just different. But for a lot of people, especially if you've got chronic symptoms, diet, lifestyle, like these things are so foundational to healing. And if you can look at that list and instead think okay, there are hundreds of things that I can't eat. Yeah. Here's six, that I am gonna avoid. The beautiful thing about those the big ones, the gluten, dairy, corn, soy, it eliminates a lot of processed foods. Yeah. And that's for a lot of people. Quickly. Yeah. For a lot of people, that's the hardest part. But the reality is our bodies need nourishing nutrient dense foods, whole foods, like from the earth,

Josh

but sometimes they'll show up on my scan too. True. Yeah. So it's not saying I think that's,

Erin

but generally speaking I'm saying like everybody would do well to reduce the amount of processed foods that we're eating. Yeah.

Josh

I think most people that are mindful of their health, not even just chronically ill people that just genuinely care. Know that's the rule. Rule of thumb. True. Yeah. But sometimes like broccoli and cauliflower pop up all the time on my scan. Yeah. Those are great vegetables, legumes always pop up. Yeah. Like beans. I just can't have them. Yeah. And so it doesn't necessarily mean that

Erin

That's where the beauty of the scan comes in. And as opposed to, food sensitivity, like blood work stuff that you can send in for like I G E, we've done that. A, B, C, D, E, F G. Yeah. We've done that too. And it can be helpful to know, what foods your body is developing like true antibodies toward. Sure. But that's gonna shift and change just like it is on the scan as well. And so it just ends up being a lot of money to, get a very temporary answer, if that makes sense. Totally. So that's the beauty of the scan. It's like it gives you this whole list of things, right? That for right now is not vibing with your body, whether that's a quote, healthy food or it could be a processed high fructose corn syrup. It may not vibe well with you either. Totally.

Josh

But yeah, if you're sick and you're not being mindful of eating healthy non-processed foods, that's a great place to

Erin

start. Oh yeah. And it's not to say it's free. I understand buying organic and getting higher quality stuff can add some to your grocery bill, but. It's, God, it pays for itself. Like when you just on output. Yeah, for sure. Like you're gonna feel better it's worth it. And,

Josh

But there still are mysteries, especially with people that are sick. It's one month cashews, I'm a jam. Yeah. The next, it gives me the worst brain fog. And so it's like that's life where I've been flowing in and out of balance on various things. yeah, with the scan, it's not a life sentence, it's just aiding and telling you, Hey, be a little bit more considerate about this. Maybe stay away from it for 30 to 60 days and see how your body feels, and then pull it back into your diet. It's not saying that you need to stay away from it forever, although, I mean for sure on my scan, and I see it on many others, there are certain foods that are on my scan every single time. Like soy. Soy has never not been on your skin. We knew soy. Yeah. We knew soy before we even started bios was a problem for me. That is just one that probably is moved outside of a sensitivity and more of something that just really bothers me at all times. So sure some of them are gonna stay in your scan maybe eternally, but most of them aren't.

Erin

and there's definitely patterns too, just from the practitioner perspective, you can look at a scan and get an idea. So say somebody's resonating with a lot of quote moldy foods. So things like peanuts, chocolate, wine, beer, you see patterns. And so then you may also see, you actually may see mold on the sensitivities and then you may see certain species of molds on the toxin section and you may see a remedy that's targeting mold. So it just, it's an nother data point for us to look at and get, a clearer picture of what's going on or say we see lots of stress in the digestive system. And a person's not resonating well with a lot of like high FOD map food. Or things that we know can cause increased activity of those bacterial overgrowth, things like that, like garlic and onions and, yeah. Or high sugar content foods, things like that. So it's just, it's more data points or somebody that's resonating with the toxin. Candida often will not resonate well with particular foods. Lots of high sugar things, apple cider vinegar. it's all patterns that we're looking at. Sure. But then, yeah, it's not a life sentence. Once we address those things, a lot of those food sensitivities are gonna shift and change, but hopefully also the diet and lifestyle things are shifting and changing too, everything holds a frequency, right? We talk about that all the time and it's no mystery to me why everyone in the in North America has a gluten sensitivity. Sure. Whether that causes brain fog or GI upset or you just don't feel great on it, or it affects your thyroid, like your thyroid numbers are

Josh

off it's date side. Cuz I can go to

Erin

Italy and that's what I was gonna say. And the difference is that in North America our grains are so processed and they are sprayed like crazy with things like glyphosate and all these other. Chemicals, the way that your food is handled and processed matters. it contributes to the overall frequency of the thing. Yeah. And this is why in other countries, like in Italy, you were able to go there and eat pasta every day. Every,

Josh

One outta lost in Italy, two, we were slamming carbs, pizza, pasta.

Erin

Every meal if we lived there, we probably wouldn't eat like that all the time, but it was like, we were there for two weeks. Me at all. Yes. Go on. Yeah. Yeah. So there is something to be said about how your food is prepared and how it's processed. And just another, encouragement to get quality stuff if you can, find your local people, find your local farmer, find your local grains person. like I get my e corn at the farmer's market because I know the person who raised it responsibly, and I know it's a lower gluten grain. It's an ancient grain, so it's not highly processed. There's just so many things that we can do to. Get quote, high vibe foods, yeah. However you wanna think about that. It's just the way that our food is handled and processed matters. I'm reading this book right now by a person named Dr. Emoto, I think, but he studied water and it's a fascinating book, but he essentially would freeze water, little drops of water and look at the crystals that it formed, depending on how the water was handled. And He would freeze, like tap water as opposed to like fresh water from a natural stream. And the tap water was like a super wonky crystal. There was no pattern to it really. As opposed to the thing from the water from the natural stream formed this like beautiful geometric shape, crystal then he went even further and he actually ascribed emotion or words to water, which sounds insane. One of his last names

Josh

Emoti. Emoto, I

Erin

think. Emoto, yeah. Don't quote me. I'm pretty sure that's right. But then he is,

Josh

yeah. Prescribing or ascribing emotions. So he, Dr. Emoto. Yeah.

Erin

So he would write like the word love on a piece of paper and tape that to like the container that one, one water was in. And then on the other one he wrote the word hate and. It's hard to even believe it, but then you see these pictures and the love crystal is Yeah, it's fascinating. So beautiful. And it's because water holds cellular memory. It's all frequency, it's all quantum physics. So maybe

Josh

the book says this, but like we're what, 80% water? Exactly. So self affirmations are impactful. Yeah.

Erin

Not to say that our highly processed glutenous, if you were to take a Domino's Pizza and look at it and say love, and then you're going to eat it. Like maybe that, that only was that easy. I know. But I do think that moment of gratitude for your food before you eat it matters. Yeah. I just really do. And I do think how you prepare your food matters. it's just setting intention matters

Josh

for sure. Yeah. Yeah. a couple things. One, This all can be incredibly overwhelming. Yeah. When you start, so I know Aaron's like saying all of these things kind. This has

Erin

been a seven year journey. Yeah.

Josh

But this was all aha moments for us. Yeah. For seven years. Yes. all I'm saying is start slow, start to piece away things that you know are bothering you or processed or there's so many replacements to start to, I don't crave as many of those anymore just cuz of where I'm at. But from like potato chips, shout out Siete. Love them. They are great. But there's so many different brands out there that are catering to, oh, you want a cookie? Here's a better option. Just start small. Or, I'm not saying you should do that all the time, but start

Erin

small. At the very least. If you want a cookie make your own damn cookie and use quality ingredients. Yeah. Totally. Don't go and buy a. Highly processed, whatever. Sure. It's gonna be better for you if it's whole ingredients, yeah, for sure. And you know what's in it Exactly. And you put the intention and love and time into making it for yourself. Totally.

Josh

Totally. One other question I had on this, something that I don't necessarily know if I even thought about, but it happened naturally, was there seems to be food and kitchen etiquette that is incredibly impactful to our bodies that maybe has less to do about food and more about preparing it. Okay. An example of like our caraway pans yeah. To the type of water that we use in everything that we consume I limited my intake of fish because there are so many scientific research studies about how many parasites are in Yeah. Fish. the etiquette of it, how you prepare it. Sure. How you cook things and the considerations. Matter as well. Sure. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Erin

Yes. But also the internal landscape, the internal terrain matters too. So just using parasites as an example, if your stomach is at an appropriate pH, which should be very low, it should be very acidic there, it's gonna burn off any microbe that's trying to make its way into your digestive tract. But when you're healing,

Josh

that's probably

Erin

not the case. Exactly. So when a lot of people have low hcl, hydrochloric acid, especially if you're in a state of chronic stress, whether that's from illness or lifestyle, stress, whatever, the average

Josh

53,000 decisions a day categorizes everyone with stress.

Erin

Yeah. So that limits the, all the digestive juices and enzymes that are needed to both create an acidic environment in the stomach, but also to break down our food into a form where it's absorbable and digestible. I talk a lot about meal hygiene or eating hygiene, whatever you wanna call it, but we've gotta be in a parasympathetic state when we're eating or we're not gonna break down our food. it's just reality. If our body is thinking that it's actively running from a predator, it's not time to digest food like that makes a lot of sense. And

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Josh

we talk about human design, there are different ways to get each individual into that state. For example, like how I digest in life and food is peace and quiet. Yeah. And so I 10000% recognize a difference in my consumption when. Zoe is all over the place. Yeah. Screaming, talking about whatever she's talking about. Music's playing on the background that maybe isn't as peaceful. It might be dance music. Cause that's what she asks for every day. EDM baby. Yeah, she is. Although there's science behind that tangent. Cuz Coachella just happened. Uhhuh and Fred again, Skrillex, they're like, house music is coming back. Yeah. But science is showing that house music might be coming back because consciousness is rising again. That's cool. Because house music at a Hertz level, Uhhuh is what the body craves. That's cool. So yeah. Just

Erin

for maybe not for digestion, but for, correct, yes.

Josh

Okay. So yeah, for me that's something that really matters. once I realized that, I started to recognize that out in public, when we go to restaurants or whatever mm-hmm. If we're screaming at each other there's a ton of background noise. I noticed that I'll scarf my food down to get it over with Almost. Yeah. Instead of just enjoy the moment.

Erin

Totally. So that's one big one is just to on the terrain inside. that really matters. But going back to food prep, like you were talking about yeah. There are things that put us at a higher risk for parasites or whatever. we don't eat sushi as much as we used to, but I love sushi. Yep. it's part of my 20%, I guess is what I'm gonna say. So for me, I try to eat, only eat quality sushi. I'm not gonna go to Kroger and buy sushi necessarily, but that's tri. I can't say I've never done that, but can't believe we used do that. I know. But I'm also gonna, you know, I'm gonna eat a lot of wasabi. That's part of, it's adding that fire to the digestion that's gonna help to burn off some of those things. I'm gonna do my best to be in a parasympathetic state when I eat it so that those digestive juices are flowing. And I'm also gonna just take herbs every now and then that are anti parasitic. Yeah, there's ways to come combat it. as far as food prep goes though, there are definitely things you can do in your kitchen to minimize the number of toxins that we're. Unnecessarily adding to our bucket every day. A big one is non-stick pans. I don't think people realize how terrible those are for Yeah. Our bodies and the environment. But those pfas p oas, they're called forever chemicals because they are forever they don't break down and go away. So both in our bodies and in our environment. if you were cooking on a Teflon or a conventional non-stick pan please just switch those out when you're able to. Yeah. I know that pans are expensive. But maybe just try to budget that in the near future cuz it matters. So for us, we use ceramic pans. It's a lesser toxin version. It's still not perfect, you need a non-stick pan for certain things. Also learn how to cook on a stainless steel pan. It takes a little practice. Really, the main thing is you have to get your pan hot enough so that when you, if you sprinkle a little water on the pan, it needs to look like beads. if it evaporates or steams, it's not hot enough, it has to bead. And what that tells you is that the pan, the pores of that stainless steel have closed now it really will be non-stick. If you add just a little bit of oil, you're good to go. But that takes a little bit of just practice and a little bit of finesse. I think that's why you didn't use it for so long. Yeah, it was a little bit overwhelming. I felt like I was always burning things or sticking things to the pan, but now it's, it's almost easier for me to make something like a pancake on a stainless steel pan than like our. Caraway pan. Yeah. Also, I hate to throw brands under the bus, but I'm just gonna be real with you guys. We tried the, our place pan. The always pan, I think. I actually got two of them cuz I thought maybe the first one was just like not, I don't know. Something happened, but they both only lasted like maybe four weeks, six weeks. Yeah. And then they were completely not non-stick. So don't waste your money. Caraway has done us much better. I think I've been cooking with the one we have for like, Six months now and it still works great. See Yes. In Thanksgiving, they don't last forever. It's not gonna be like a Teflon pan that just lasts forever because it has forever chemicals in it. So you know they are gonna chip a little bit. Just do your best to take care of it. Don't use sharp utensils

Josh

or cook on high. That seems to be the biggest impact.

Erin

Yeah, you gotta just keep it, yeah. Medium. Yeah. And then cast iron is another great option. Again, it takes a little bit of practice and there's a bajillion YouTube videos out there. How to season a cast iron pan. It's not that hard. It just is one extra step when you're done cooking. So I get why people don't love to do that. But especially if you're, struggling with low iron levels, things like that. Cast iron can be really helpful. It actually does leach a little bit of iron into your food, gives you a little bit of extra. Iron stores there. Again, this has been a seven year journey for us, so I'm not saying you have to do all of this overnight, just things to consider, but the biggest one probably is learn how to cook with whole foods. That's just the base foundational thing.

Josh

Yeah. I think the misconception of that is that food can't be tasty.

Erin

Yeah. Oh gosh. And holy shit. We eat really well over here. I mean we have like noodle bowls and flavorful stuff

Josh

yesterday are, you're posting it all the time. So if somebody is having hesitation or is scared to try new things, cuz we were, when we started too, Erin is just constantly posting recipes. So just take those, put 'em together. And one of the kind of fun things about this way and this actually plays into your human design. There isn't gonna be a million and half

Erin

ingredients. No, it doesn't have to be. Sometimes I get, a little fancy and I use a ton of ingredients, but most,

Josh

I mean you made that breakfast the avo toast. Yeah. Which was on Yeah, five ingredients. Dto. Yeah. It was slamming. Easy peasy. Yeah. Or yesterday you made some like chicken salad. With a tahini sauce. It was like a

Erin

haris. No, I could've harissa tahini chicken salad. It was good.

Josh

Y'all, I could have drank that tahini sauce. I'm not even joking. I think I was dipping it with carrots and then I was just eating it in spoon. Yeah, it was so good. And it was just a few ingredients cuz I watched, cuz I filmed it. Yeah. It doesn't have to be incredibly overwhelming. And I think that's maybe another point when you're starting this, is do recipes that are gonna be flavorful and tasty, but don't require everything in the kitchen sink to go in it to make it tasty. Sure, yeah. Start with a few simple ingredients that go really well together a quick Google search could help you find what pairs well. But if not, Aaron's got recipes. Yeah. I'll

Erin

post, I'll try to post more and more people have been asking more for recipes. We're gonna

Josh

start putting 'em on the blogs live now in Rudy too. We'll just start posting some recipes on there. You might as well. Cause we

Erin

have them. Yeah. And if you have a particularly challenging food sensitivity combo, throw 'em at me cuz I love a challenge now. So if you're like, okay, I can't have egg, dairy, soy, gluten, give it to me and I'll make you an amazing meal and Yep. Show you how to do it. Yeah. Because I've pretty much cooked with every sensitivity ever now at this point. That's a fact. My bad

Josh

babe. That's

Erin

a fun, Of all the diets, what have we done? We've done whole 30, we've done paleo, we've done vegan, we've done AIP p we've done low FOD map. I think the only one we haven't done is keto, because honestly, I looked at people doing keto and I was like, okay, so you're basically eating like cheese and cheese. You guys don't look awesome. I think it helps some people. all that to say I'm not scared of a challenge,

Josh

so No, and there's bioindividuality in eating as well, unfortunately. And unfortunately, yeah, but the sensitivities matter. But it's not a life sentence. in most cases, the majority of the foods that ever hit your sensitivity. Results are gonna move on. Yeah. And you're gonna be able to devour them. Yes. But that doesn't give you the green light to go eat Starbursts and peanut m and ms. It's allowing you to know what whole foods are going to replenish you. Energize you, and in some cases heal

Erin

you. Yeah. For some reason when you said no, Starbursts and peanut m and Ms, I got really like defensive in my soul. Cause I was like, don't keep those from me, even though I truly haven't had those for six years. Totally

Josh

thence in like where you're at versus where I am at or have been, is that while you say that's in my 20%, I'm not gonna fucking touch my 20% doesn't exist and it's because I know how my body feels. Yeah. Even with the 20%. Sure. So that's along the lines of bioindividuality too, Aaron. Has more of a steel stomach at a baseline than I ever have. And so things aren't going to bother her in that way as much. Although it may be bothering her in another way. She doesn't know, but

Erin

yeah. I notice I feel better when I don't eat gluten and dairy for sure. But you

Josh

enjoy it. Yeah I enjoy feel more. Yeah. So yes, for some people, the 20 percent's actually gonna really matter. Mm-hmm. Because it's something they genuinely appreciate and gives them joy. That matters a lot too. Your 20%

Erin

my healthy gives me joy. Yeah. You're 20%, maybe you are more willing to take on more stress than I am, or you know what I'm

Josh

saying? Well, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But we're just talking food. That's why I was giving that example. But hell yeah. I'm gonna take 20% more stress any day over you. Gross. Yeah.

Erin

Give me pancakes.

Josh

Give me pancakes. We all have our own vice, that's for sure. But when it comes to food and you win, you're chronically ill. I mean, Just coming from experience. That may not be a luxury it's not necessarily that it's ever going to be a luxury that's going to exist. I definitely eat significantly less rigid than I used to. Yeah. I feel like I'm free eating. I just know that I don't feel good if I of hop off the wagon for too long and I'll regret it. So why do it? And actually that's a good point. I also used to be so fat. Yeah. People probably don't know that. No, I was a hundred pounds heavier than I am right now. Yeah. food could be bad for me too in various ways. I don't know.

Erin

I want this to be an area of freedom in your life that promotes, because like to me I so free in my diet at this point. Yeah. I know that somebody probably would look at what I eat every day and think damn, this chick is so strict, but I feel so free. Because I know all the things that I can eat. Yeah, totally. And like really, I could eat anything and I just choose to eat. Yeah. These certain ones that make me honestly feel freer. Like they. Provide life force for I feel more, for sure energy when I eat them. Yeah. If you're looking at it from a restrictive perspective, that's not healthy. It's, and it's gonna cause stress on your nervous system. It's gonna cause more food sensitivities. Like Totally. We see that all the time when a nervous system is Yes. Constantly firing and not experiencing safety at a cellular level, you're gonna have a lot of food sensitivities because there's direct correlation. Yes. cuz your body is on high alert. It's like all these things are foreign invaders and they're out to get me. Even this, perfectly fine apple that's a thing. so it's important for me to state that food should feel free and also food can be medicine, sure. I dunno,

Josh

the bottom line to what we're both saying is awareness. Yeah. You have to be aware of what you're intaking for you specifically what's feeling good to you. Yeah. What's not, what's allowing you to be free, what's not, what feels restrictive. That all matters. Yeah. And food is fuel. And we require it as these meat sex

Erin

that we live in. Ew. Absolutely not. We're not leaving that in the podcast. Gross. Yeah. Food is fuel fu food is medicine, but also food is delight and joy and passion and

Josh

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I appreciate the creativity of food. Like I'll watch Chef's Table and be insanely inspired. I could eat the same thing. I know it every single day and be just as happy as you are eating a Michelin star meal. Yeah.

Erin

I don't need Michelin,

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Josh

just need flavor. I'm not going to the opposite extreme eating every single day. food just as different to me and it's not because I don't appreciate it or I don't enjoy it, it just isn't at the top of my Sure. Priorities. Values. Yeah.

Erin

I highly value

Josh

flavor, but I so appreciate people that do. Yeah. that's what I'm saying of just being aware of everything. Food is fuel at the end of the day. How you prepare it. Yeah. Depends on you. But boy do I benefit from you loving

Erin

food. You're welcome. I do say thank

Josh

you often. It's true. Thanks for making this babe. That was oh my gosh. For like a year for dinner, I'd be like, thanks for making this babe. Zoe would be like, thanks

Erin

for making this babe. It was very cute. I'm gonna said she doesn't do it anymore. I know. All right. That was good. Yeah. Have fun in San Francisco.

Josh

I will. It's gonna be a little warmer there, which I'm stoked about. Good weather.

Erin

Good for you. Good people.

Josh

I'm just kidding on my planetary Jupiter alignment.

Erin

Yes. Here we go. Here we go. Love you.

Josh

I love you too, boo. Bye. Bye.