Erin: [00:00:00] Okay, hi everybody.[00:01:00]
Josh: Note, I'm not doing an intro with you at 8
Erin: o'clock. Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh. Ready? Hi
Josh: everybody. What it do baby boo? For the sixth fucking time. Jeez, oh man.
Erin: That's what you get when it's 8pm after I've worked Josh: in the hospital all day. Never again.
Erin: Can we just play the word
Josh: game one time? One time. if we can't get it in five, we're calling it a loss. Okay, deal. Ready? Three. Two, one, basketball, three, two, one, bounce. Oh, my goodness. Hallelujah.
Erin: Like redemption.
Josh: We got it into
Erin: Okay. Wow. That was a really stingy high
Josh: five. That hurt my finger so bad. I think your ring like dislocated my finger. Bounced. Bounce when she walk. Bounce when she walk. Bounce when she [00:02:00] walk.
I'm not going to ask you what's lighting you up because we spent 20 minutes talking about it and turned into a podcast. But if case anybody is wondering, it's German New Medicine and that's where we're gonna leave it. And what's lighting me up is my pattern app and y'all should go download it.
To go see your astrological signs and then come bond with me and see how we pair. And Erin and I are romantically paired and it's epic. So that's the information that you're going to give her in the intro that we spent 30 minutes recording before and this is the sixth time. So there. Chelsea. Chelsea. She's awesome.
Erin: She is great. That's a good conversation. We're excited.
Josh: She's an herbalist on a 45 acre farm in Ohio who comes from Florida and
she had her own juice bar and then became an herbalist.
Yeah. Which is a pretty wild story. It is. What a shift. I mean, the last episode of the podcast, we talked a lot about plant medicine and I think this falls in perfectly. It does. With that plant medicine is herbs. Saved my [00:03:00] life and it's saving other people's lives. And she's kind of doing it in a really beautiful way.
Yeah.
Erin: I love that. She's also astrological and celestial She is she's working with mind body and soul spirit. Yeah, we
Josh: touch on that a little bit. It's cool
Erin: I'm also excited to dive into more astronomy stuff
Josh: She inspired the pattern app y'all go download it.
Please go download it. blatch is my handle.
Erin: A plus astrological match. Thank God, because what would we have done if it said,
Josh: never get together? What if they're contributing to quarrels in relationships? What? The pattern
Erin: now? Yeah.
Josh: Could be. They link and then it's like, not compatible.
Get out now. Yeah. That'd be terrible. Anyways, this is a good podcast. I hope you guys
Erin: enjoy it. That sounded so fake.
Josh: Yeah. Why don't you go enjoy this podcast. Bye.
Erin: [00:04:00] So being seen is definitely something that I've also struggled with and it feels terrifying at times and it makes me think a lot about the nervous system and how we've got that like fight or flight or fawn and not as many people know so much about the fawning state.
But you think about a fawn in nature and it's if they're seen, they kind of freeze and they stare at you like, Oh, if I don't move, maybe I won't be seen. Maybe I won't be hurt. They don't feel safe to be seen, and I think a lot of us are stuck there and don't even realize it, So I know that conscious seed, one of your big goals with your products is to nourish the nervous system and heal the nervous system. talk to us a little bit about conscious seed, kind of how you fell into that or started pursuing that.
Yeah.
Chelsea: So I started working with botanicals when I was 19. I was working in a little tiny juice bar. So I just did everything. I [00:05:00] come from a family of entrepreneurs, so I have that in my system.
Naturally that's all, honestly, that's all I didn't know. I don't know how to work for other people. It's kind of weird pulling worked at that juice bar for about a year. And then I was , I gotta get out of here. I have to start my own thing. So the woman that hired me, she was very much into holistic wellness and has been working with some really magical people that are very well known these days.
She had books in the space. And so when I wasn't busy on my breaks, Learning about tonic herbs or juvenile herbs. Everything started with Ari Veda. So I'm working with the elements from the get go. I have always struggled with anxiety, nervous system issues, overthinking, all this things.
Erin: So many of us do. Yeah.
Chelsea: based on my chart, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Um, And like also Just culture in general. Yeah. So I didn't want to go the route of pharmaceuticals. I'd already been on An antidepressant for three years. And I don't remember those times at all.
I don't remember three years of my life at all. Blackout moment. Horrible. And like, in a way [00:06:00] that led into a lot of the grief that I felt in my mid to late twenties where I'm just like, Oh my gosh, , where did my life go? What's going on? Oh my gosh. Just spinning. And so I really wanted to focus on the nervous system.
Cause that's what I needed to do for myself. And I'm like, if I'm going to go on living this life, I need to help myself and I need to be okay with helping myself because that was always one of those things to help other people before I can help myself like It doesn't work that way.
Just kind of going down that line for a long time. I had my first business when I was 21. I got married when I was 21. Wow. Wow. And just started life out really early. And then about 24, 25. I started realizing I'm not happy, I'm not happy with what I'm doing, even though I was serving the community.
I was a pillar in Florida where I come from. one day a hurricane came it just shut down the whole island for three months. And it was talk about a force of nature, because at [00:07:00] that point we were like. Really at this point of , should we continue or should we stop?
Cuz I was already on this point where I'm happy, but I'm not really feeling this is what I need to do. I don't really feel like I want to Create cold pressed organic juices. Sure. Really wealthy people. for the rest of my life. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but it was just exhausting.
I wasn't able to take care of myself. So Funny how the universe does that. It was like, here, I'll help you make the decision. I get decision paralysis where I'm like, I can't. I mean, you worked hard in that too. Yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is what I was supposed to do.
It was a calling
Erin: for a
Chelsea: time, maybe. Yeah. That was my college, as my mom would call it. I Erin: mean, what an amazing education. I
Chelsea: really like your parents. Yeah. They're really fab. We've come a long way, but love them. So with that, I ended up moving out to Loveland, 45 acre, beautiful organic farm and a
half, two years, I really just [00:08:00] devoted and I still am devoted to the earth and I would do physical labor I was grieving at that point like I gave a child up for adoption at that point. I was just like, I just gave up. Oh my gosh, I'm horrible.
All these random ass stories that are not true. Yeah. It's a personal choice that needed to be made and for the health of my family and my relationship. So kind of just devoting to the land starting to grow the plants, growing the medicine, actually having a relationship with the soil and with the microbes and with everything, seeing just how tall plants can actually go and how long it actually takes for them to produce until they're prepared for cultivation.
So having that one on one experience really blasted me open to the world of herbalism. Because before that I would not, I think just last year was the first year that I actually considered myself an herbalist. Wow. I, you know, labels are kind of like weird. but it's important to know your name and call yourself by. That's something that I'm like learning to honor and devote to myself as like [00:09:00] my soul, not just my ego. It's more of my soul needs this so I can continue to move forward. But through growing all the plants, I say the plants grow me.
And so one part of that is supporting the community of the ecology of the property that I live at. So I have a couple of different pieces of the property that I work with.
And everything that I grow is pretty much native, that's a big part of my giving back to the land. That's a part of the reciprocity. Yeah. nature really gets to speak in those moments too. There's moments where you're like, what is the medicine?
Or like when I'm having a really hard day, I go out to the mug ward and the mother ward and I'm just like, Yeah. Yeah. I just start crying and it's just this beautiful symbiotic relationship where the bees are by flying around me. I hear the hummingbirds. I hear big birds in the sky. I hear the waterfall that's close by and then this big gush of wind comes in and I'm like, Oh yeah, that's medicine.
Yeah. Yeah. from that point, then I harvest and then I prepare the remedies that's a big Part of my calling with creating the remedies is that they want to be of support for the community as well [00:10:00] I'm just a translator bridge between humans.
Yeah, so working with bridging the plants the planets and the people so yeah.
Erin: Wow. I love this We just had an entire episode about just the connectedness with our natural environment that so many of us are cut off from. I mean, we live 99 percent of our lives indoors. We have no idea what the moon is doing.
We're not conscious of where the sun is during the day. To be Josh: clear. We do. Well, Yeah. I'm just saying. But society. As
Erin: a species. As the human race, we have become so disconnected and we miss out on so many beautiful lessons just by observing. We don't even have to play in the ground yet.
Just observing nature and listening to her. She has so much to share.
Josh: I mean, literally an entire episode was just talked about how plant medicine just has so much communication. If you listen, yeah, and the interconnectedness that we have is absurd Many aren't paying attention to that and living life [00:11:00] siloed
Erin: they think they're living siloed.
That's the difference. We can't be , there's no way to DNA.
Chelsea: We have to. Have that whether it's like we have grandmas and dads are like smell that nice grass. Yeah. Just it could be literally that simple or you're just like, I have a relationship. it's a, Olfactory systems. that's a connection. It's our senses that can be one simple way and have that connection because there's no words. Nature's not going to be like,
Right.
Erin: Right. although sometimes they talk to Josh. Yeah. Yeah. Chelsea: Sometimes. Not on anything.
Josh: So backstory, many know that I had intense chronic illness. I, to the point of being bedridden we had tried everything, westernized medicine, went to functional medicine. Nothing seemed to help. We found bioenergetics, which is what Ruti is. many of the things that heal me was herbs what happened after the healing.
And when I then went into this idea of plant medicine, I felt such a unique connection. It gave me my life back. Very literally what I think about [00:12:00] now, often when I'm daydreaming or even just pondering on my journey is that it was almost like it began a new type of communication inside of me where my body received and accepted what the herbs had to offer.
So now it sounds wild, but like, I'll go touch a tree and I'll intuitively know something and it's not my consciousness talking to me, Pete Holmes. Has a bit, he's a comedian is like, we all have this thing in our head and we can tell it to be louder or quieter. So he'll be like, scream a word and then whisper the word and you hear it screaming and whispering.
That's your mind's voice. This is just a knowing I have a tree in the woods on our trail and I walk by and I'll touch it and it'll tell me things all the time and I will literally be like it's because it gave me my life back. It's because it communicated with my body.
To help it heal and the ways it needed to heal. And now I'm connected in some random way, but I'm here to listen it hasn't been wrong yet. So
Chelsea: you're receptive, you're open, you're an[00:13:00] open vessel. And that's what I think nature and plants and the celestial energy around us, have. They're just waiting for us to listen a hundred percent.
They just want us to listen Just a child or just a teacher. They just want you to be present and to remember. they are here so you slow yourself down just a little bit and get humble and you're just like, okay I'm fully surrendered at this point that's part of my journey where I'm just like I am Devoted.
I have nothing else to lose in my life. Yeah, you hit rock bottom. Dark night of the soul. Yeah. Yeah. You just go outside and you just Like I got a reading recently and she's like. your guides want you to just tell them the news. I'm like, oh my god, that's what I want my friends and my lovers to, , tell me.
I just, tell me how you're doing. Tell me your life. Tell me what you're feeling. Tell me about your dreams, even if they seem all weird. Just tell me. They want to be included. They want to be able to , help you digest and process and integrate the work and the information that's coming in.
Because.
Josh: I mean, you must've did something with your guides. Cause then my guides reached out. The way we [00:14:00] got Chelsea on the podcast was I literally was in a meditation. I mean, No offense. You were on the mind at all. I mean, you come up on my Instagram sometimes every now and then, but , I wasn't keeping tabs and literally I heard it and it was just like conscious seed and I was like, conscious seed for the podcast I think I DM'd you right after the meditation. So you were tapping into your guides, even maybe before you
Chelsea: knew it. I don't know what I do. You're open. Yeah. I just, Hey, I'm here to receive and to give and whoever's open here. I am I'm at that point. Yeah. It's one of those.
Erin: I love it. so after the hurricane and your business kind of, fell through your fingers or however that choice was. Yes, the choice was made. Yeah, you mentioned kind of having a season of I don't know what that felt like if that was more dark depressive season or if it was just a season of waiting.
But we work with a lot of people who feel like maybe they're in that season where it feels like all the things around you are crumbling [00:15:00] especially with chronic illness I would love to hear how that season for you, gave space or, helped you to cultivate something different because here you are now, it feels like, and again, we all are human. We're all experiencing life every day and nobody's perfect, but it seems like you're stepping into a new thing and you're, using your life now and your story as medicine for the world, which is incredible and what we all hope for.
So yeah, tell us how that season kind of primed you. Chelsea: Oh my gosh. Wow.
time. Because I was hearing
Honestly, it was About three years, longest night
feeling like that was the feeling. I feel it in moments, part of my nervous system
is still primed for that. And that's something that I'm still nourishing at this
point.
Mothering, I've had to learn that mothering is a big part of how I found the
other side. And I don't know, I feel like for me, I just surrendered I kind of fell
into a safe space where I could live, and I just devoted to my healing for the first
[00:16:00]
to all of it and be like, oh my gosh, and staying up super late to hyper focus on
And how I can offer them. healing from the plants and through nourishment.
everybody else's stories and holding on
how I can support this person.
But I needed to , really just cleanse myself of this cultural belief that I needed to
be perfect. Perfection kind of was one of those things. And the concept of
perfection, really is one of those cleanses.
Who me? Josh is looking at me. You know, it's, it's a, it's a work in progress, you know, constantly, I'm a Virgo rising. I got some stuff where I'm just like this and that needs to look like this. And , you know, it's, it's important, but there's other moments where it's just like, you know, it's okay to be a little scrappy. It's
okay to be a kid at it as well, to have enjoyment. And that was also something that I needed to , really.
But I needed to know who the hell I was and I didn't know who I was at that point. I don't know, I studied astrology in that three year pocket [00:17:00] and that really helped me fall in love with who I am personally and really see who I am. And give me a lot of grace where I'm just like, Oh, okay, honey.
And I started The internal talk started changing because I was like, okay, so I have mercury in this placement. It takes me here or here. This is the spectrum of where my internal self goes. And so through that I'm, I started catching myself. That was where the parenting came in and my partner was helpful.
He's like, come on, honey. Would you say this to a kid? And no, you wouldn't say that to a child and I'm like, okay, I'm not a child, but that's the part that really needs to be like loved on a little bit harder. And so
So [00:18:00]
Reprogram the self talk hold myself accountable for being kind and knowing
just learning how to .
what my triggers were, because before I was just going on autopilot, because,
like, working, having to open up the shop at 10, closing at 4, working even
longer than that and being accountable in that way was, , one way and I was,
like, okay there's what's opposite side of that spectrum and that's where I was.
trying to find this equilibrium this balance between what I should
do and what I need to do. Kind of was really helpful for me and it's just
honestly. It's a really slow Process, I think about the Saturn cycles. It's a slow
moving planet. And so we need to be able to allow ourselves the time, the space,
and the courage.
Honestly, you need a lot of courage to live. Yeah. But like, courage doesn't
always have to be, you need to be, like, stoic. You can also just be, like, I'm
figuring it out, and I'm not perfect, and I'm gonna fail, and the more I fail, the
closer I get to the gold. Just having grace and , being able to, , know that there is
a light within the shadow and that there is gold within that, dark, dense place. It
just takes time and we just have to , be okay with the time and that's really a
hard lesson,
coming from another Virgo rising. the bravest thing I could have done
was surrender.
Josh:
surrender such a beautiful word, which I now will be using more than I like, say, just let it go.
And I joke, I send frozen gifts [00:19:00] to everyone, I can't even tell you how many clients that I've sent that to you, how many people will DM me. And I'll just be like, the answer is literally just to let it go. And only you can do that. But surrender is so much better.
that divine feminine coming out. It is soft and sweet and peace.
Chelsea: It's powerful. So powerful. It's protection. That's where I was going. It's protection. Agreed. a part of the surrender has to do with I am protected and that's kind of a part of the alchemy of surrender is like knowing, or at least having a glimmer of faith that you are in protection so you can surrender and have that , trust fall.
And . complete allowance of whatever is coming Josh: So good. I resonate with that so much. Yeah.
Erin: I'm very curious to talk more astrology because it's just not something I know much about. I mean, I know my sign and, but I love that it gave you language. Or, a kind of a framework to work within to love yourself deeply and to forgive yourself too.
I think at its worst, it's an excuse, you know, it's like, well, Mercury is in retrograde. My life's in shambles,
Chelsea: [00:20:00] honestly, I've unfollowed almost every astrologer that I follow. Yeah. I tell all my clients, I'm like, just. Delete. Yeah. Or mute. Don't even pay attention because it's toxic. I agree.
And that's why on the down low, I'm like, I'm, yeah, I'm like, I don't even tell people. Yeah. That I do that work. Yeah. Because it's kind of cringy at this moment. Especially on the Instagram world. Yeah. Yeah.
Josh: Social media has. At least brought astrology into the conversation, which I'm really thankful for.
I don't know much, but it also helped me in my dark season as well. Just digging into myself and reestablishing my divine identity. And starting to understand. What I was meant to be astrology helped a lot with that. So I'm grateful that it's in conversation now, but the toxicity inside of astrology specifically on social media has gotten really toxic.
And it's kind of building this jaded idea, which it already had a jaded idea before social media. So I'm curious how you navigate that. And, playing off of Erin's question, just starting to understand [00:21:00] how that integrated into your life. In the depths of surrender to then bring you out of the depths.
Erin: Oh, my gosh.
Chelsea: So quickly on the social media thing. I think a lot of people in that realm. Hyper focus on the low road. So I see everything. Victimization. Yeah, and like, the dark side of these signs.
Yeah. and then it just makes everybody be like, oh me, me, me, uh, and I'm like, oh my god. That's just feeding the sad boys and girls and humans. In us. And they're like, I don't need any more of that. I got that covered. So I see astrology on the spectrum.
and I see astrology from the lens of elements and their blending, their alchemy. within my own, like healing journey, it's really helped me like see, okay , I have a Leo. I'm a Leo son. I have a stellium in Leo. I've always grappled with, I've always been like, Oh my god, I don't like being Leo. My mom's a Leo.
There's, all the memes of Leos. They're just like... Cringe. I'm just like, Oh, I don't want to be that. But I realized within my astrology [00:22:00] practice that I Have the stellium and leo in the twelfth house, which makes so much sense for who I am So I'm able to be light. house, so it's layered with fire and water which Alchemically put each other out.
Yeah, but it's when it's in balance It's this amazing, powerful force of nature. And so I've worked with that and I'm like, okay, so like, where I don't even know how to describe it the 12th house is it's ruled by Pisces. So it's very large and it's all encompassing and it's the depths of nature.
The water. I imagine it's like in the tectonic plates underneath. We're like Earth begins, so I imagine that and then, but I feel like the high road of both of those signs and that the house placement is that I have so much love. To give where it almost bursts and it hurts in moments with knowing over the past, oh my gosh, I don't even know, however many years it's been that I've been, like, studying deeply with astrology, I've learned how to like, [00:23:00] temper myself so I don't put out my fire, And where my fire doesn't just burn up everything and overpower everybody and everything. And it's a balance. It's constantly finding the middle way And that's something that I live by is like what is the middle way? because I don't need to be like on this extreme or this extreme.
It can be like a nice Easeful balance and that's something that i've been working with for a long time at this point. So wow. Yeah, that was One example.
Erin: And I love the concept of the middle way. I feel like that's something I'm constantly learning too, because it's when we're Erin's a Pisces.
I am. Pisces. I, again, I don't know a whole lot about astrology. I can't wait to just pick your brain, but yeah, My sun sign is Pisces. I'm Cancer Moon and so yeah, I'm very tender. And Leo rising, which I know the least about, but yeah. Okay. Yeah, we've never got readings. I know we'll have to do that.
Heck yeah.
Chelsea: We can even do a couple's reading. Josh: Oh, I'd be so game for
Chelsea: that. It's kind of like therapy. Oh, I Josh: mean, you're up for it. I'm so Chelsea: [00:24:00] I love it. I love it.
Erin: Great. But yeah,
that's literally what we're doing.
this concept of the middle way and even how you're
talking about with surrender, it's if we go too far in either direction, which this
correlates so beautifully with bioenergetics and how our technology works,
We're trying to find the middle way homeostasis within frequencies of the
human body. But, if you. Go too far with this concept of surrender. you tap out,
you give up, you're not showing up. And if you go the other way, it's all about
finding that balance in all things.
And I do feel like nature teaches that over and over again. How. Not, I don't
want to say how fragile, but how easily we can become out of balance, whether
it's a pest in the garden and, but there's always a way to, to balance it. So yeah, I
just love that concept of the middle way, something I'm learning constantly.
I would love to hear more about. your herbs and your concoctions that you make. I know they focus on nervous system regulation as kind of your nervous system nourishment. And I also know that it's important to you that they taste good, which is fun because that's [00:25:00] important
Josh: because they usually don't.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Coming from experience, coming
Chelsea: from a herbalist perspective, Oy. Yeah. They're potent. In moments I'm just on the ground where I'm like, Ugh. Yeah. Potent. I'm like, is this really working? And that was a part of my passion.
'cause like I have a background with my mom and her ex-husband being. In the restaurant business so working within flavor profiles and really kind of touching on all.
The flavors and giving you this I have music that comes into my head in moments. I love this.
For weeks, because I'm a stubborn person I have a lot of fixed energy signs in my chart.
I'm like, very prissy in moments. I'm like, what is wrong with you? , why are you being so stubborn and weird? So I had the song, I'd wake up in the morning and I was singing the fricking Mary Poppins song. I love it. Spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down. And my husband was just like.
Are you kidding me? Over and over and over. And he's I don't even remember the last time we watched that movie. I'm like, we've obviously have [00:26:00] never watched it together. I'm like, it's mean something. Cause usually, I don't know. That's how me and my mom kind of work, where we both have music and we're like, Oh my gosh, what does this mean?
But this song, the spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down. And then I was just like, I had to surrender. I was like, I'm sick of it. Yeah. Usually that's the moments where I'm like, okay.
That's when I become open, when I'm just like, I'm done. I was just like, what? What do I do? I'm not gonna put like cane sugar in my products. That's kind of not okay. And I was just like, What else? I'm like maple syrup. No Honey, and then I started going down that whole road. So
medicine I've taken some online courses with some amazing teachers about bee
honey is a really big part of the
shamanism.
But like learning about how the divine feminine and the divine masculine And
have always been a part of this hive mind and I, so I brought that medicine, that
symbolic medicine, but also the physical medicine of honey into all of my
products Sweetness is important for , on the taste buds, but also energetically,
your body's
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more receptive to receive in that rather than with just
bitter medicine. Sometimes you need that, but I'm on the mindset of okay, nine
out of 10 times, I'm not going to take something that tastes disgusting and my
body is already prepping to like, so I'm like, okay, I'm going to just do it and it's
really nice to be able to . and to have that be the sweetness that makes these
more bitter herbs, especially like mugwort and motherwort, which are like
predominantly bitter and even taste better.
So you actually hold the medicine for the proper time, especially the elixirs and the tinctures. So then you swallow it and you're not like, That was disgusting. You're like, okay, I'm going to be more consistent about this because it actually works because I'm doing it properly so that's a big part of it. Yeah. I have a great beekeeper. That's.
Erin: I was going to ask you who are you, do you have a
Chelsea: hive? I don't have a hive yet. I don't have the time for it yet. Plus it just feels like such a big initiation. I think maybe next year, maybe Keeper, he's in his, oh [00:28:00] my gosh, late 70s.
Cool.
Josh: What a life. Beekeepers are incredible.
Erin: We have a neighbor who just does it as a hobby. They have chickens and bees and all, and I just think it's so fun. I mean, bees just coming from our experience with chronic Lyme there's research coming out now.
I don't. know too much about it, but B venom therapy Chelsea: is huge. Oh
Josh: yeah. I know multiple people that have Completely healed from Lyme through BVT. Interesting.
Chelsea: I don't ask the bees to sting me, but it's a blessing when they do. I have no fear of it. Yeah. Yeah. My beekeeper and I have that combo.
Quite often. I was in New Mexico recently and I got stung on the first day that I was there and it was by so random, so instant, and I, the stinger's still in me.
And I went to my acupuncturist a couple of weeks later, I'm like, what meridian is this on? And he's like, this is your heart meridian.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, I've been doing a lot of heart healing and just. Doing that and he's like it's on your protection line. Hello bees,
Josh: Being an herbalist and having a herbal company, how [00:29:00] do you utilize astrology inside of that business to bring light to what you're doing?
That's a
Chelsea: really great question that I'm still figuring out, honestly full transparency. kind of stresses me out in moments where I'm like, why haven't I figured this out yet? And I'm like, it takes time girlfriend. It takes time and dedication. At the moment, I feel like it makes sense for how each of my remedies kind of are supportive.
So we can definitely connect certain remedies to certain planets and or certain, Retrograde period. Yeah. Chaos moments transformations and stuff like that. So that's kind of how I work with it. At the moment
Josh: I mean, that's awesome. Yeah. That consideration isn't being taken in the herbalist world.
True. Yeah.
Chelsea: So that's awesome. Bring it down to like tangible, natural sciences. Sure. That makes sense. Because There's just so much untapped within that realm. And I'm just like, yeah, there's all those spiritual that's like, oh yeah, the sun is connected to these plants. I'm like, okay, cool. what else?
, how can we really actually support each other,[00:30:00] community? For people who aren't going to go on that whole spiritual journey with the plant medicine and all that stuff. That's great for that. I have all of my revenues can definitely assist people in those situations, but also for the everyday, I just need to help myself.
I'm having trouble falling asleep or I'm having trouble with supporting my mood because I need to , have this conversation.
Erin: I'm kind of like
Chelsea: nervous and I don't know what I'm going to say, you know? Also just focusing on those tangible, very human programmed things, so I love that.
Yeah.
Erin: a common thread throughout this conversation is that things take time. I think we've all said that a couple of times, so I'd love to hear your take on, we talked about this a little bit last week, but. A lot of us are used to working in this kind of conventional or modern medical framework where we take a pharmaceutical and fairly instantly we feel a change in one way or another.
And the limited amount of research that I've done, I'm certainly no herbalist, but I understand the phytochemicals within plants and it's working at a completely different level. It's supporting at a cellular level, we're not halting a biological process like, a [00:31:00] pharmaceutical often does.
We're more so supercharging certain parts and pieces of the body to do a job better on its own. But that doesn't happen always overnight, especially with, herbals. So talk to us a little bit like how to herbs work, why do they work, what's happening in the body with them and, take that wherever you want, if that's specific to the nervous system or not, but, I think people need to understand how herbs are different than popping.
Chelsea: A pill. Got you. Okay. This is a great question, how I understand it at this moment is that plants, that's why I say nourish because it's a building , if you're someone like me that comes from a lot of stress, your adrenals are fatigued. taking a pill or taking a plant for the first time, you might not notice it, but one of my missions in creating herbal remedies is where you feel it almost instantly. Especially if you've already have a relationship to plants um, or botanicals, or even . mushrooms, like medicinal mushrooms, your body is more like, Oh, I know what to do with this. I know where to put you. [00:32:00] Yeah. Which is really cool. But the nervous system is connected to everything. from if you have gut issues or if you have allergies, if you have sleep issues, if you have chronic headaches, if you just.
literally anything. The nervous system is the most ancient aspect of, think, the living world, honestly. I've just started this book, and it's talking about how mycelium and even like have nervous systems. They just wouldn't call it a nervous system And so I think about. even amphibians and that fight flight fawn, about animals, they all have different nervous system responses and how they release their nervous system. I don't think there's enough research going on
with people, witnessing what animals consume, on a medicinal level, which I think would be really cool.
And that's where I'm just like, we're just remembering and through my practice mm-hmm. and my remedies and conscious seed in general is here to give you jumping off points Yeah. For you to work with.
Because your body and your d n a and just. You're everything remembers these plants. So I work with all [00:33:00] different plants from all over, and cross culturally I blend certain things together, but I like to kind of work with synergistic plants and plants that are companions, because of there's this innate connection that they have.
And I'm like, okay, they need to hang out with their friends still. Sure. That energy is real. Yeah. And so I really want to . honor and devote the plants to themselves and make sure that they're happy as well, because then I feel like they're received in our bodies and for our minds and for our spirits so much easier.
So that's a big part of what I do. I think
Erin: that answer. Yeah. It did. It does. Absolutely. Yeah. I love herbs. I think people really underestimate the power that plants hold. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're just, again, we're primed and used to just a different framework and we think that these are. Ancient practices used by uneducated people when in reality, these were things that were studied for centuries, meticulously and people learned over time, this herb does that.
And so just because our modern day research isn't so focused [00:34:00] on plants doesn't make it any less powerful than our, pharmaceuticals in my opinion, but yeah. I love it.
What are some of your favorite products?
What are your top handful? You brought us something, right? Yeah.
Chelsea: I brought brain food. Okay. That's, I'm a coffee drinker, but I only do it once a day. Good girl. I've learned the hard way. I used to be like seven, eight shots of espresso. Woo.
Josh: Hey, adrenals. I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah.
Chelsea: Pumping that cortisone.
Yeah. That was a big part of my problem. That'll do it. It's just, I'm undiagnosed ADHD. I don't really care in diagnosis at that point for that. Yeah. But it makes sense. I formulated brain food. Brain food actually comes from way back when I had the shop. it's neuro focus, focused.
Yeah. And then it has the medicinal mushrooms. It's kind of like. Best of all the world of all the products that everybody's consuming now. So it's like medicinal mushroom coffee mixed with herbal coffee mixed with adaptogens and nootropics. And it's awesome. All focused. The core of what are, started was the concept of the Ayurvedic blend of ghee and gotu kola and how [00:35:00] those two.
What is that
Erin: second one? I
Chelsea: don't even know that. Kola is, oh my gosh, it's. A little tiny little plant that really focuses on Neural focus. It's great for people who have memory loss and things like that. It's all brain focus Yeah, but it also is an adrenal support. So that's what that's focused on and there's ashwagandha in there So it's there's no caffeine in it, but from the raw cacao that's inside of it.
Oh, I'm so excited. It's delicious. I can't wait. So I mix that in my coffee. That's cool. Number one, how I start my day. Actually, my partner puts that in my coffee. He does that. He's a good partner. He's great. Yeah. And then I Love lion's heart, which is my favorite. it's our anxiety ally.
That's one of the ogs of the elixirs. I that was a formula I made for myself that really helped me Get out of my cave moments. The dark
Erin: cloud moments. Wow. What all is in that one?
Chelsea: there's motherwort in there, which grows like weed because it is a
weed in my garden.
It's gorgeous. And then there's ashwagandha. Milky [00:36:00] oats is a big part of that formula as well. Oh my gosh, and there's lots of good things. I love it. That's awesome. So it's for me I used to get shaky, to the point where I'm just like, I can't do anything.
Yeah. But with that blend, I've totally got that out of my system. And like, that was something that I thought I'd never be able to move out of. But other than that, all of the remedies, I use them all religiously. Dream cloud is a great one for sleeping. I get a lot of My genius thoughts at night and I'm like, okay, I need to chill out.
Mind brain spirit. Can we just do this when I'm not laying in bed and I need to get rest. So I take that one. That one is great for helping me fall asleep. Because it relaxes my mind. It actually relaxes the body. There's some kava in there, which you actually feel, And then there's nerve vines in there that really help you rejuvenate your nervous system overnight.
So you wake up feeling really ready So yeah,
Josh: That doesn't sound
Erin: awesome. I know we're definitely going to get some of these.
that's awesome. You're awesome. I know. I'm so thankful. Yeah.
Josh: I [00:37:00] had no idea what to expect me either.
Erin: Like,
Chelsea: I'm just like, I don't know
Josh: what I'm going to talk about. We kind of just went on a whim here, but yeah, this was really
Erin: incredible. And
medicine first.
I just need to say, because I think this is important also
for listeners and for us, how Important it is to choose for yourself to heal
yourself because the world doesn't get your medicine unless you are your own
Like you cannot heal the world until
at least started the process of
healing yourself. So that your story is one of so many that we've heard like that,
where it's
like, as soon as I,
put the other things aside and devoted to myself, to
my own healing. That's when the world opens up for us.
That's when we have the energy and life force and I don't know, all the things to
do all the things. Yeah. So yeah.
you've
Josh: I mean, we very literally say all the time. Can't love others until you love yourself, that surrender, that peace, that grace that you give yourself on a daily basis. I mean, you could choose to surrender, but then you have to choose to surrender again.[00:38:00]
This is the life's journey and it's our destiny. It's what we're called to do as humans. we cannot project that onto other people or even interest other people in the surrender until you've surrendered yourself. Yeah. You're doing that beautifully.
Erin: So it was a gift for yourself and that was, that would be worth it in itself, but also it's a gift to all of us.
So thank you for making that choice and for helping others too, hopefully as well. Yeah. Thank
Chelsea: you. Yeah. Sweet. The gift that keeps giving. Erin: Yeah. It is. That's
Chelsea: one of the things that I say a lot. It's the gift that keeps giving. And that's a big reminder for me to continue because sometimes It feels like, I don't know what's going on, but it's like really important to just continue to show up.
Yeah. That's all we
Erin: can do. That's incredible.
Josh: Cool. This was great. Thanks for being
Chelsea: on. Yeah. Thank you.
Erin: Should we drink some, drink some breakfast? Uh, Josh: yeah. I love it. We love you guys.
Erin: Love you. Stay open. Bye. Yay. [00:39:00]