How to Make £1,000 in the Next 30 Days with Sarah Poynton

What if you could make an extra £1,000 in the next 30 days? No special skills. No big budget. No secret knowledge. Just you and a bit of effort.

In this episode of Girls in Property I'm joined by Sarah Poynton to talk about money. The real stuff. The blocks we carry without realising, the stories we inherited as kids, and the quiet fear so many women have around earning, showing up, and owning what they want.

Sarah shares her own journey from debt to designing a life on her own terms, and we break down practical, doable ways to bring that £1,000 in fast. Selling what you already own. Flipping finds from a car boot. Using AI and faceless content to create income online. This is the kind of stuff anyone can do. Because the only thing standing between you and that extra grand is usually the decision to start. No excuses.

We also go deeper into the things that really matter. Putting your own oxygen mask on first. Having your own money as your safety net and your freedom. Changing your mind at any age and refusing to apologise for it. This one is about taking your power back, financially and emotionally.

If you've been waiting for a sign to back yourself, this is it. Have a listen, then go and make your first move.

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Transcript

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Good morning everyone and welcome to today's episode of the Girls in Property podcast. So I am super excited about today's. To be honest with you, we have done the quickest turnaround on a podcast I think I've ever done before, where we have literally recorded this on Friday to go out on Monday. And there is a very, very specific reason for this, which is a lot of you ladies and gentlemen, but mainly ladies at the moment, are in my DMs and talking to me about this notion of Athena, we just need or I just want to make more money. I wish I had more money. Um, I wish I knew ways in which to make more money. And I totally, totally get it. I know that at the moment in the world of property, life, um, you know, everything that's going in the world with inflation at the moment, bills, investing, everything just feels really tight and everything feels like it's costing more money. And I totally understand that. So what I really want to do today is I really want all of you to really be inspired by this podcast episode and to really feel like do you know what I'm going to set myself the challenge and going and making a thousand pounds in the next 30 days. And what Sarah and I are going to talk to you all about today is really showing you ways to do that and also why this might be a really important thing for you at this moment in time. So my mission and Sarah's mission is going to be to really light a fire up underneath you all today. The other thing that we're going to be doing is, of course, me and Sarah are also going to be hosting a co-hosting a girls and property community session that is going to be happening tomorrow night at 7.30 pm. Now, this is inside the girls and property community, but me and Sarah have decided to do something very, very special for you all, which is that we are going to be opening this up to non-community members for the very first time. And the reason that I'm going to be doing this for you all is because my mission Is to inspire all of you to believe that you deserve to hold wealth and to show you how you can make money quick, fast, in the next 30 days, making a thousand pounds. And let's face it, you can then no longer have the excuse that you can't afford to join the community for 30 pounds a month because you would have made your money, and we're going to then be setting the five-day challenge, which is happening on the 6th of July inside the community for you all to come and join. So this is going to be Fast, action packed and full of value and fun today because I am joined by the incredible Sarah Poynton. Hey Sarah. I'm good, I'm good. Are we ready for today's episode? I'm so ready. Born ready. Born ready, I love this. So just before you came on the podcast, we were obviously having a conversation and I said, Sarah, we've got to hit record. This is gold. This is gold. Because we were of course having a conversation about why at this moment, you know, this notion of our DMs being full of women who are saying, How do I do it? How do I make money? How do I live abroad? You know, a and and and I can feel like they really want to do it, but they just don't know how. Mm-hmm. just feels a bit heavy and a bit tight and almost like luxuries are going out the window because everything is going up in price. You know, what are your feelings around this with your own community at the moment? think we're in a really interesting window of time, think economically, em politically, I just think we're seeing this period of time that if you believe the media is a shit show, it's all falling apart, everything's terrible. But actually when you really look at the numbers of the data and you get a feel for the reality, if you extract the media influence, it's actually not that bad. But because We're so as a society governed by the media and what other people are telling us, there seems to be this kind of uh wave of discomfort when it comes to money at the moment that I think with just a little bit more knowledge around how money works, how we can make a bit more of it, life would be a little bit better. You know, we were saying before we came on air, like I spent winter in Ibiza this year, you're currently in Mabaya. you know, for a couple of months. And, you know, I remember when I started my business, the intention that I had when I first first started my business, my intention was to just become a gazillionaire. That was like all I really wanted to do. Then I got to a point in business where I had more money than I needed. And actually, I was quite miserable because I was like had all this money, but my lifestyle was just awful. I wasn't looking after myself. I wasn't eating well. I wasn't taking any time for myself, etc. So I've kind of gone up and then back down again to a point now where my lifestyle is the thing that is my priority. And I think if more people understood the lifestyle that they wanted, they'd realize that they do need a bit more money to achieve it, but maybe not as much as they think they do. And I like you say in your DMs all of the time we get, I just don't know how to do it. I don't know how to make that bit more money. If I could make it, if it was as easy as what you're saying, I'd have done it already. And I actually think this is at In a lot of cases, we overthink, we convince ourselves that it can't be done because if it could be done, we'd be doing it already. And the answer actually is often, we just don't know how to do it in a simple way that doesn't involve spending loads of money to be able to do it in the first place. And I think the whole idea around this guest session that we're doing and all the things that me and you have got planned around this conversation is actually to just strip it back to the simplest way we possibly can to make. as much money as we can as quickly as we can about spending loads of money. And actually if we, especially women, and again, I know there'll be some men listening to this, but you know, as a woman who has had a lifestyle where I've had no money and I've had more money than I could possibly spend and everything in between, I know how hard it is to not have enough money. Like I remember how difficult that life is. And it's not, in my mind, it's not really about having the Ferraris and like, you know, that's not the lifestyle that I think money is creating. Certainly not for me anyway. It's the freedom to be able to on a Friday morning, sit and have coffee with my friend in the garden because I don't have to rush because I'm desperate to make the money. It's about being able to spend time with my mom, that I'm doing some work with my mom today for a business that she's running. It's being able to spend the winter in the sun and it all starts from just having a little bit more money and all of those things, oh the way we live our life, the choices we have, the things we have, the people we spend our time with, the relationships that we're in, all of those things that aren't working for us could be fixed by having just a little bit more money. And so this mission that you're on that I'm on is really to help people to not to buy a Ferrari if that's not what you want. It's not really about that end. It's about this window. Being able to function in this window of time that economically, politically feels very dark. But in fact, with a little bit more cash, it would feel much lighter. And I think that's the point of it all. Mm. And I think what's beautiful is I think a lot of people overcomplicate it. So for example, you know, I think a lot of people go, Do you know what, ladies? Like, I hear you, it's great. Everyone would love more money. We want more money. How do we do it? You know, it's easy for you or it's easy for them, but you know, it's not easy for me. And I feel like sometimes people go on this like victim triangle, if you like, of woe is me. And I'm like, well, actually, no, we're gonna show you right now how you actually can make money in the next 30 days. Um, you know, it could be a thousand, it could be two thousand. Somebody said to me the other day actually, I was on a call with somebody and I was speaking about the fact we're gonna be doing this challenge for a thousand pounds in 30 days. And she gave me an example. She said to me, I think I just switched to utility warehouse to become one of their ambassador people things. And she says, just by switching and just by becoming an affiliate, she said, I made 750 pounds in one day just by doing that. And I said, There you go, that's in a day. You know, people sell their clothes on vintage, like all sorts of things. So I'm gonna say something that some people won't wanna hear, right? And it's gonna hurt for some people, but the money's there to be made if you can get off your ass and bother to go and make it, right? And I know for some people listening to this, you'll be saying in your head, but I've got kids or I've got poorly parents or I've got multiple businesses or I've got a job or I've got a relationship that's breaking down. I've got all of these things, all these things that happen in. I don't have the time to do any more things. And I'm telling you now is bollocks, you have. Even down to, I know that I've got a friend of mine who makes hundreds of pounds a month doing online surveys. So like when she's laying in the bar for half an hour, she'll do an online survey and she'll be paid eight pounds for this like 30 minute online survey. And when she's got 20 minutes, like after the kids have gone to bed, just before she's going to bed, instead of doom scrolling on Instagram, she does an online survey and she'll learn 11 pounds. She's making hundreds of pounds a month. in these tiny little windows of time from her phone. So I don't accept that people haven't got 15, 20 minutes a couple of times a week to make a bit of extra money. The point is that most people overthink it, think it needs more effort than it actually does. So they don't start it because they think, well, I haven't got time to do this little window of time, so I won't do anything. In reality, I know that in the windows of time where I have had absolutely no money, and it wasn't that long ago, it was like 11 years ago, and I know every year it ticks over and it gets longer away, but 11 years ago, I had £60,000 of credit card debt running at like between 18 and 20 something percent. It was really, really, really expensive. It was hard. But on a Sunday morning, every week, I would get up and I would go and buy something on a car boot sale and I would sell it online or I would sell it on eBay or do something. Every weekend, I'd get up at like five in the morning and I would try to just do something. I know that people have kids and I know that people have jobs and I know that people are caring for parents and I know all of these things. But with the internet and AI now, you just got to do something. There's so many options that... There's really no excuse not to be able to make a bit of extra money in today's if you actually put the effort in to do it. But you've got to do that bit first. And that's the thing, and sometimes I really do think that this comes down to nervous system and also the subconscious. Because when I when I when I speak to a lot of women also, you know, and we say, where was your first understanding of money and how money works? It comes from parents, for example. And parents are a different generation where they have this whole thing about money as the root of all evil. What does money represent? Money represents greed and power. And I have actually noticed this predominantly in a lot of women. where they come and they say, Well, I was raised in a household that didn't have money. I was raised in a household where you weren't allowed to talk about money. And, you know, I've seen it where, for example, where um really fantastic young women have wanted to go to the family and talk about their success and talk about the fact that they've just had like a fifty thousand pounds, sixty thousand pound year, whatever, and you've got the grandmother saying to them, Oh, don't don't talk about money. That's that's rude. Don't talk about money at the table. This is so interesting. like my Nana, love her. She's like my favourite person in the whole world. She is my biggest fan, like her and my mum, my absolute biggest fans. I've written a book about money. I've got an investment company. I've got a portfolio of properties. I've got an education company. I've got all of these different layers of things that I do that make me money. And still now, my Nana says to me, I'm so proud of you. I wish you could do what you do without talking about how much money you've got. I wish you could do it without having to talk about money. And I say to her, yeah, but why? Like I've written a book about how to make more money and how to have more money. How do you think I could authentically promote that if I wasn't willing to share the goods and the bads about money? And she always says to me, because the thing is Sarah, when you tell people you've got money, someone will want to take it off you. That is the mindset that she's got. that has passed its way down, my parents and me to a certain degree. And still now sometimes I think, oh, maybe I shouldn't share that, you know, I've done a deal and it's made a hundred grand because what if people think I'm an arsehole? What if people think, it's all right for her? What if people want to try and take it off me? And then I remember like the work that I've done over the last 10 years to get more comfortable with having more money and being in those rooms where you can talk about making 10 grand, five grand, whatever it is. But it's that influence of other people that genuinely does get in the way of just hitting the button, clicking the link, finding out the thing, going to the car boot and buying whatever. Like it is that if you are not aware of what's convincing you otherwise, you'll never do it. So you've got to get in control of what's going on in your head before any of the rest of it will flow. So important. Yeah, literally. I um I had a really sort of weird similar example of um actually and I didn't I haven't actually talked about this, which is I d I don't actually talk to my dad very often at all, as people know. Like literally don't talk to him very often. But I thought I'm going out the country, I better text him to let him know I'm gonna be out the country for a while. So I did, and he's not on social media at all, but some of my family are on social media on his side. And I said to him, I'm off to um I'm off to Marbella for a couple of months, just letting you know basically if you need to get a hold of me and you get an international dial, that's why. And he said to me the most interesting thing. He said to me, he goes, um, you know, fine and all of this. And he says, a couple of uh couple of people have been seeing like your social media and things. Do you think it's such a good idea for you to be like showing your showing that you're out there like living your best life like abroad? Because it might really upset people who are at home in like the rain, who who are looking at you and thinking, like, who are you? Maybe it won't be so good for business. And it was the most bizarre thing that he could have said. Because one, I don't talk to him that much, so it was just a really interesting thing for him to even comment. But two, I was like, What a ridiculous mindset that you have. Like to even suggest that is bizarre to me. Because for me, the DMs that I receive and and Okay, there might be people out there who've unfollowed me since I've been talking about my my journey abroad. No problem. I wish you all the best. You can unfollow me, no issue. But the women that I actually inspire, they're like, wow, Rathina, love to see it. How do you do it? Teach me. Let's go. Like, that's what I that's the world that I want to live in. Not in a world where we suppress ourselves in fear of not making other people feel bad. I'm like, no, late ladies, come up. where you don't go to Marlbeya to live your life the way you want to live it because you think that someone who you don't know might not buy from you because they've seen you on a sunbed with a tan. Imagine living a life where you allow the thought of what someone we don't know might think about us stop us from doing the thing that we actually want to do. I can't get my head around it, but I know it's happening and there'll be people listening to this and they'll be saying, fuck, I do that every day. I do it all the time. Like, you know, I, there's no secret, anyone who's followed me for any amount of time, if you guys follow me on online, you'll see me in Ibiza. I'm in Ibiza often. I'm flying out for two nights at the end of this month. I'm going in August. I'm back. I've run in my retreat in September. I will probably spend winter there again. I love it there. Imagine me not going because somebody may or may not want to buy from me in the future might see that I've been on a sunbed for the winter and think, oh, fuck her, she's on a sunbed. I want to be with those people, same as you, that go, that's the life I want. I'm going to ask for her advice because she's clearly done what she wanted and created a lifestyle that she loves and is happy. That's the thing we've got more of us need to channel, especially women. And again, lads listening to this, it's nothing against you, women are way more susceptible to staying stuck in lifestyles that they're unhappy in because... some point in their life they said it's what they wanted and they don't feel like they're allowed to change their mind. I'm going through a relationship breakup at the moment, I'm navigating that period of time for myself and what I said 20 years ago and the version of me 20 years ago is not the same version of me now and there'll be women listening to this who are thinking, do you know what? I've felt stuck for so long and I'm, I'm not happy in my career. I'm not happy in my relationship or I'm not happy in the house that I'm in or whatever. Just cause you said it once, you've still got the right to change your mind. You're allowed to say, actually this four bedroom house that I said I wanted 10 years ago, isn't what I want anymore. I want to downgrade to a two bed because that would be great for me. And I want to go on a camper van holiday. I don't know what, but women seem to just spend a lifetime. fulfilling things they said once because they think they can't, they're not allowed to change their mind. And, you know, I say this to my friends all the time, women need to channel the confidence of white middle-aged men. Because if we channeled the confidence of white middle-aged men, we would be changing our minds. We'd be doing the things, we'd be booking the flights, we'd be getting the dog we want, we'd be, you know, leaving the marriage that makes us unhappy. We'd be, I don't know, investing in crypto because it feels like it could be fun. But women for some reason, well, it's not for some reason, I know the reasons, it's because of society and all the things, but if women could just get a little bit more aware of what they want for themselves, not for other people, the world would be a much better place. Full stop. Hmm, I completely agree with you. And you know what? It's one of the toughest things to do, Sarah. And obviously, you know, you you and th this is really important to say also, like I feel like women can never compare themselves to other women because every single, and I mean every single woman, is on a different path and a different journey. Every single woman. So there is no way that women could even begin to compare their lives to our lives, for example, because You know, we're both we've both just gone through long term breakups in our relationships and now we've decided to go down a different path because we decided that we said we no longer want this, we want something else. And there'll be other women out there who go, Athena, I had kids at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, I got married young, like this is what I've now chosen. Great, that's great for you. It's just different paths. That's what's all it is. And it's so interesting, you know, because I've had a couple of my friends, like my really, really close friends who've known me for like donkeys years, yeah, forever, who are absolutely convinced that I'm going through a midlife crisis at the moment because because that they literally messaged me. Thank you. to normalise that shit because why are the number of people that think that I'm also having a midlife crisis because I've changed my life and I'm spending time away and with different people, whatever. I'm starting to say I'm just having a bit of an awakening, an awareness of my own needs. And maybe it's turning 40, did that to me, I don't know. It's probably another conversation for another day, but. I think the older I've got, the less I wanna accommodate other people to the detriment of my comfort. Like I wanna be accommodating myself first and foremost, not in a selfish way. Maybe it is a bit selfish, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I wanna look after the people I love, my mom, my nan, my family. They all matter so incredibly much to me. But I think for a lot of women, themselves, they're right down the bottom of the list. When you say, do you want? say, well, I want to be a good mom and I want to be a good wife and a good sister and a good child and all that. And you ask them, they never say, I just want to be happy in my own choices, in my own body, in my own head. Why don't we matter more than that? It's not good enough. We need to all want more than that. So somebody once said something to me which I really hold on to, and I want to share this with the listeners, which is they said, Athena, be intentionally selfish. So be selfish with intent. So what what they mean when they say that, and what I mean when I say it, is you are never ever selfish where you then hurt other people and are detrimental to other people. But what but what you do is you put your own oxygen mask on first. Because when you put your own oxygen mask on first, and I say this to mums, right? Mums are always about, and and whenever you ask mums about what it is that they want, majority of the time they will the answer will be, I want a better life for my children than I had. That will that will 90% of the time be, I want a better life for my children. And what I say to them is that is not the answer. You must start with yourself first. Put your own oxygen mask on first because you will be an example to your children. And from you investing in yourself and living your life the way it should be lived, that will in turn show the children how to live a better life and they will have a better life as a result. And this is what I say to everyone be selfish, but be selfish with intent. And and and and you know, people say I'm in a midlife crisis because I'm the girl that got five tattoos in the space of 24 hours, you know? And and Great, if you and me need to go away, get a tan and tattoos and drink cocktails, I think that would be a great trip. I've literally now got tattoos all over my body and you know brilliant and I'm just I've actually been contemplating my sixth one if I'm honest with you. So I'm I'm here for it. And you know the funniest thing happened actually. So as many people will know, um I had Stacy and Amy Miller come out. So Stacy who's obviously my executive assistant and Amy who's my community leader, and I Girls, come out for the week, come and find me. And I said, Come and I said, I'm gonna go get another tattoo, come with me, come and see. Amy said to me, and I know that Amy will be listening to this and won't mind me saying it. Amy said, I would love to get a tattoo. And I said to her, Why don't you get one? Why don't you get one? And do you know what her answer to me was? Genuinely, and I know that she's very open and she won't mind me sharing this. She said to me, Oh, I can't get one done. And I said, Why? And she says, Simon, who's her husband, she says he doesn't like them. And I said, Okay, what's that got to do with your body? And she's like, well, he doesn't like them, so I'm not gonna get one. And I went, hmm. I said that's interesting. And I th and I sort of spoke to her about it. And I was like, okay, well, what if you did get one? What was the worst that could happen? What's this? What's this? And I took her down an absolute rabbit hole of just asking her questions. Amy Miller definitely has a tattoo on her body now. Because Amy. Because I but you know what? And you know what was even more beautiful about it? There was absolutely zero peer pressure. I just want to make that really clear. I did not peer pressure into everything. And I was driving her, I was literally driving her and Stacey, and we were listening to some empowering women's songs. I think we were singing probably like Define Gravity from Wicked at the top of our lungs. And Amy turned to me completely on her own. She turned to me and she smiled and I What are you smiling at? And she says, I've made a decision. And I said, What have you made a decision about? And she said, I'm gonna get a tattoo. And so we went and we both got butterflies. So she has a butterfly on the back of her uh shoulder, and I have now the butterfly on my foot, and mine represents my grandmother, and hers is the for her wedding, her wedding anniversary, though they had butterflies on their wedding day. And so we now both have butterflies, so we've almost got like matching tattoos on us. And it's just beautiful because y it's like, why don't us as women just say like Yes, like we're gonna do it. mad. My mom now knows I've got a tattoo so I can talk about this. And my Nana will never listen to this. So she doesn't know that I've got a tattoo, but everybody else knows that I've got one. I didn't get a tattoo until I was, well, so I got my first tattoo three years ago. So I was like 41. No, what am I now? I'm 42, I'm 43 this year. 40, 41, anyway. The reason I, if you'd have asked me then why haven't you got a tattoo? And it's because my mom's told me I can't. My mom has said, you're not allowed to have a tattoo. And even walking into the tattoo shop, so Emma, my best friend and business partner, she went to get a tattoo in memory of her dad on her wrist. And I've said forever, I want a tattoo of my nan's handwriting on my wrist. And again, no peer pressure. She was getting a tattoo anyway. And I was like, well, I'll just come and I'll see. And I've always known what I wanted to have. I just hadn't been brave enough to get it done. And I walked in and even up to the point that they put the needle in my arm, I was like panicking that my mom was going to fucking flip her lid because I was getting this tattoo. And then once I got it, I've now got three and this like all in the space of like every time I go to Ibiza, I seem to come back with a new tattoo. And when I told my mom, she went, they're cool. and just moved on and I was like, hold on, someone else's instruction about what I can and can't have on my own body has governed a decision in my life for 40 years, well, like 20 years, because obviously I wouldn't have wanted a tattoo when I was little, but for 20 years I've said no, because I thought my mum would like disown me. And actually I got it and she was like, cool. That's really nice because it's my nana's handwriting. So I've got the word hope on my wrist in my nana's handwriting, which if she found out she would be cross about because she doesn't want me to have a tattoo, but she'll never see it. So don't really matter. The way we make decisions as women is so governed by other people's directives on us. And I think becoming older, and I'm sure there'll be women like in their late thirties listening to this, in their twenties listening to this, who maybe haven't got to this point yet. But for me, it was turning 40 and all of a sudden I was like, life is short and I might at best have another 50 years. Maybe on average, maybe another 40. what am I doing? What am I doing letting other people's opinions, positions, values, morals impact me when in fact I know I'm a good person, I'm not hurting anybody, I just want to be able to put myself first a little bit more. It probably is turning 40 that made me just go hold on. life is short. Like what if I only live another 20 years? Like I want to be able to do the things that are for me. And to come back to the point of this session is having more money actually gives you the freedom as a woman, and a man, but as a woman to be able to make those choices where otherwise you wouldn't be able to. Like I've got so many clients that read my book, come to my event, and it's because, and they've in my DMs, very honest, I'm really unhappy in a marriage and I can't afford to leave. I can't afford to rent my own place. I can't afford to pay for a moving van, to come and get my stuff and put it into a new place. I can't afford to get a car. I can't afford it. So they're living this trapped little life, not everybody, but lots of people. Money makes that just a bit smoother. Money gives you the flexibility to live a life that you choose rather than live a life that you can't afford to change. And that is just incredibly important, I think. One hundred percent. So so I have a lot of those women as well, Sarah. That seems to be a common theme. And the other one that I have is where women say, um, that they just wanna have money for them. Like they have the money that is kind of like joint money with them and their husband that they share for the children, and the husband is usually the main breadwinner. But what they say is is they're like, I don't actually have something that's for me, and I want something for me, and that's a really common one as well. And I think that that comes down to a lot of to do with If you then want to leave, for example, you then have the choice to be able to leave and you don't feel trapped. I think that's the most important thing. So okay. that like, you know, I'm not saying that everyone feels trapped in the marriages. Some people are very happily married. Great. But when I talk to like older generations, like my mom and my nan's generation about women having their own money, it's so alien. They're like, well, no, we just chuck everything in together. And actually, we just have, that's what we've always done. But The thing is, when you are in a relationship where the man is the breadwinner, what also happens as a consequence of that is that they do the investing in their name. They put the money in pensions in their name. They put money into Isis in their name. And while you're married and happy, it's all joint. But the second you're not married and happy, all of a sudden you realise how exposed you are. And actually women being able to have their own money that is in their ISA, in their pension, in their stocks and shares, in their things. They've got a car that is theirs in their own name that can't be taken off them. know, all of those things, when we're happy and in a partnership, it is great. know, we don't really, no one gets married thinking it's going to end. I certainly didn't. I really didn't. I honestly thought it was forever. But life evolves, people evolve, things evolve. I think we have to, to a certain degree, be sensible as women and make moves that allow us that freedom. And I think if men really understood that, they would... Surely most people don't want to be in a relationship where the woman feels trapped to be there. They want them to choose to be there. And so actually most men, think encourage it. When I talk to men, like friends of mine, family, they're like, I want my wife to have her own money, her own pension, her own ISIS, her own like, we call it the, her own fuck off fund. Because actually if she's got a fuck off fund and she still chooses to be here, it she wants to be here. And that is a much happier place to be than letting you have your own money. Because what if you leave me? Like it's. Most men actually want that for their women, but most women don't ever broach it with their men because what if they upset them? What if it rocks the boat? What if blah, blah, blah? And actually we need to normalise everybody, men and women and anyone over 18, kids, whatever, everybody having their own money and their own fuck off fund. If you want to just change your mind on something, you can. Mm, exactly. It's so important. It really is. So let's talk about money then, Sarah, because honestly, I I I love this because I could talk to you for hours. Like me and you could just literally just keep going. Um we we do, we do definitely. So let let's talk about this then because I want to try and encourage as many people listening to this podcast to actually come and join the call on Tuesday, because the call on Tuesday is all going to be about literally teaching everyone how to make um a thousand pounds in the next thirty days. To be honest with you, I actually think we can do it even quicker than that. But let's let's go with that. Because for me, I uh and by the way, if you really want to join that, I just want to say, because I didn't say it at the beginning, um, I'm gonna put the link to join that specific call in the in the show notes of this episode. So that call is happening on, shall I tell you when it's happening, just because you're watching this, so Tuesday the 23rd of June at 7.30 pm. I'll pop it in the show notes that are gonna be out. So just click on the link, pop in your your your email and you register. And then we're also me and Sarah are going be doing a five-day challenge inside the Girls on Property community, which is going to commence on Monday the 6th. If you cannot find the link to the show notes, just come over to Instagram, to Girls in Property or Athena Dobson underscore official and just DM me the word podcast and I will send you the link that way. Um but Sarah, let's give them a bit of a taster then. So I loved your idea of the survey, for example. I'd never even thought about the survey idea. So what are some what are some other like Really great tips in terms of making quick cash. There's so many. I mean, I, in my book, I wrote a chapter on almost all of these, but I think we all need to look at capacity. Not everybody's got the capacity to start a business on the side of their job. Like, so actually we can take a step like before that. I guess the most obvious one is selling all your clutter that's cluttering up your house and stressing you out, putting it on vintage. You know, I've got friends that are making hundreds of pounds a month. just selling their own stuff that they don't want anymore, that's been in a cupboard for a long time. So I go to car boots often, and actually it's quite a running joke between my friends and I. I don't care if I'm making a pound or a million pounds, if it's a return on my money, I'm happy, right? So I went to a car boot sale over the bank holiday weekend, and I bought 10 pairs of kids' croc shoes. And I paid an average of between 50p and a pound, maybe one pound 25 for these pairs of Crocs. I came home, I gave them like a little rinse in the sink and I put them on vintage and every single one of those pairs of Crocs sold for over 10 pounds, if not 15 pounds. Right? I spent two hours at the car boot. I spent 10 pounds, 15 pounds in total on like the different things. And then I sold them for 10 to 15 pounds each. So I 10X my money, two hours, a bit of like scrubbing in the sink. And people say to me, Sarah, why are you doing that? Why are you trying to make 150 pounds on a Saturday morning when you're a net worth millionaire? Like, what's the point? Because I love it, is the answer. I find it really wholesome. Making money like that is so much more wholesome to me than making money by selling a house or like the work that goes in there. It's me, my time. I love wandering around a car boot anywhere. I live in a really old house. So I buy like quirky little old things anyway. And I was like, do you know what? I'm just going to do it. bought a pair, the following weekend, I went and bought like 10 pairs of trainers for like kids trainers. Kids stuff sells really, really well on Vinted, top tip. Between like a pound and two pounds. And they've all sold for between like five and 25 pounds, depending on the pair of trainers. So like, Not everybody's got the time to start a business, but you know, if you've got kids, grab them, go out the car boot on a Saturday morning, give them a mission, go and find crocs, kids' crocs, and go as a family and spend 10 pounds to make 150 pounds. Like if you did that every weekend for a month, actually you're looking at like 400 quid of profit. And you've entertained them for a couple of hours. You've got your steps in as well. You know, there's so many ways to make money if you actually look. And another top tip on this is with the introduction of AI. So I will take a photograph on a car boot stand of the car boot, put it into chat GPT and say to chat GPT, what go and look at vintage and eBay and tell me what on this stand will sell. for between 10 and 15 pounds. And it will say, right, pick that, pick that, pick that. If you can get that for a pound or less, buy it, because it will sell for 10 pounds. Jaggbt will then write the advert for Vinted. It will then create any like titles or whatever you need. And all you've literally got to do is copy and paste it and put it on a Vinted ad. takes seconds. But you have to wake up at five in the morning and go to a car boot sale with your children. And that bits the effort. You have to set an alarm on a Saturday when you probably don't want to. You maybe drink one less glass of wine the night before so you're not heady in the morning and you get up and you do it because the money's there to be made if you want to make it. But a lot of people won't do that bit. So actually then they say, well, it's all right for you, Sarah, because you've got loads of money. Because still, even now I've got money, I will still get up on a Saturday morning and go make 150 pound extra this week to cover my food shop. so that I don't have to use my own money to pay for me living. I want to use my profits to pay for my living. And I think when people get their head around that is that your wages and the money that you're making in like your proper income is for like, sort of like clearing your credit cards, paying your em mortgages, all those things. And you need extra cash. Well, Extra cash comes from extra work. So you've got to go and do the extra thing. Mm, exactly. I love that. What I do know, I get such a buzz out of that as well. So so I think it's brilliant. So my my my uh two things. One is also if you take the kids along, you're teaching them about financial literacy as well. So you're teaching them right, you buy this, you make a profit. And I will I I I tell some people this story, which was when I was in year I think it's year seven, it was like just going into senior, um, I learnt that there was a gap in the market at school where there was never like a snap. time. You if you needed snack time, for example, just after lunch and everyone gets a bit peckish. They wanted something. So I went to Costco, made my mum drive me to Costco. I bought rainbow dust, Oreos and Chewing Gum. Um and I bought it where the Oreo unit price was about forty P, thirty P, something like that. And I sold it for a pound, right? And then I took the rainbow dust and the rainbow dust was five P and I sold it for fifty P and the chewing gum I bought for I think it was fifty P and sold it for like pound fifty or something and no one had taught me how to do that. I've got no business people like in my family. I just learned that well if I buy it cheap and I sell it for more I'm gonna make money and that's how it works. And I was about what 13 years old and my business was out of my backpack. And my school my school rucksacked literally and I just think to myself like I think that was that was if you like if I was ever to be on like Graham Norton one day or like the red chair like that that You never know. Aim high, Fina. Um, that would be my representation of where I've had entrepreneurial blood, you know, where I realized that you could make money from anything. And I've taken that with me for life. And I'll tell you the other way that you can make money from absolutely nothing is intellectual property, asset building, right? You can take an idea, like let's say that you're in the care home sector. Or the council sector or whatever sector you're in, the NHS sector, whatever, right? And you think, well, what's my skill set? What have I learned over the 20 years? What have I learned over this? How can I turn this into an asset with my my brain and actually then make money from it? So for example, Sarah, your book, you know, I I give out sort of like now my um I I have an online course that I've created from the experience that I've done that I now sell, for example. So you can also create money through creating assets. that you can then sell for for it as well. And I always ask women like, why not just create something? Why not, why not allow yourself to do that? to extend on that, there'll be women listening to this who will say, yeah, but I don't have any special knowledge. I don't have any skills, right? So I've got a friend of mine who's got an Instagram account that makes about a thousand pound a month, give or take. And all she does is put quotes on it. She hasn't even got the intellectual property. It's not even her words or knowledge. She doesn't have any skillset that she's using for that. But she's posting a re- like, I think it's like three reels a day that she does or something like that. And she's got a job and it's a, it's a big job. It takes a lot of like brain capacity. She's got two children. She's got a husband. She's got a dog. She's got a cat. She's got a life, like a real life that takes a lot of her capacity. She makes three really short reels a day. And I think it's doing like a thousand pounds, a thousand dollars a month. I think it's in dollars. Just quoting other people. Just quoting and putting it in. So because once you've got, em if you put, if you set up creator accounts on Instagram, you can monetize that account. So like on my Facebook account, when I post on Facebook, even if I, I'll post a picture of this in a minute, cause I took a picture at the start and I will post that on Facebook. And then for every post I put on Facebook, I will earn money. But Facebook just pays me for putting content up. So it doesn't have to be good content. doesn't have to be beautifully curated content. It doesn't have to be well videographed, videographer tech levels, high, like none of that. It's just me saying, oh, like I took a photograph of me. I did a like a climb in the peak district a few weeks ago. And I put a photograph of me like on a trick point at the top of one of the like. Wayne, one of the peaks that I did. And it earned me like $8. It was just a picture of me on a trig in the hills. There's no reason why that should pay me that sort of money. And every month Facebook sends me money straight to my account and it sends me an invoice to say, this is what we've paid you. And this is just about settings in your profiles. You just set up the account as a monetizable account and You just post consistently and eventually you will qualify for monetization. Instagram does it. YouTube does, YouTube pays the best like advertising commissions. So I think it's like 50 % on Instagram. No, sorry, 50 % on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. You can create creator accounts on all of those things and you'll get paid for putting content up. Like it's actually, people say, yeah, but I've got nothing to say. I don't want to create content because I've not got a business or I've not got anything to talk about. I don't, or I don't want to put my face on or, know, I've got a client that says to me, but you know, I don't really like my teeth. So I don't want to like go on the internet. I'm like, okay, well just do a faceless account then you don't have to put your face on the internet anymore. You just have to be with the introduction of AI. You don't even need to be funny or intelligent or know anything. You can just get AI to write it all for you and just post it. And actually now, even with the introduction of it, like agent AI, you can get it to post for you as well. Like we're building a load of stuff at the minute that actually we're trying to see if we can create a, a concept of an account. and just leave the AI to run so that it just posts all the stuff and makes the money. That's not going to go live for a little while. And I appreciate people listening to that being like, well, hold on, Sarah, that's like pie in the sky stuff. I've got the luxury now of time. I've got the luxury now of being able to invest a bit of money into playing around with tech. And that's not where everybody is listening to this, but it exists. If you want it, go and learn about it. I think there's also things like Askable. Have you heard of Askable? No, what's that? So Askable, so you can set up an account on Askable and basically you can get sent a task. So maybe it's, em take this list of data and put it in a spreadsheet for me. And you can say, yeah, I'll take this task. You do the task and you get paid for the task, like an hourly rate, but it's task-based. So it's not project-based. actually someone who's not got a lot of time. But maybe once a month they have a day, but they don't even know when that day is going to be. It's really unpredictable. Maybe they work shift patterns or whatever. They're always in call, those sorts of people. You can't really predict a job. You can't really say to an employer, well, actually I could do one day a month, but I don't know when it's going to be or what times I can work. Doing something like Askable, you just log on, pick a task, do the task, send it back to them and it's done. With AI now, you can get AI to do the task for you and send it back and it's still done. There's so many ways to make money. And I say this so often, and I often think that it kind of falls on deaf ears because people think, yeah, but is it really that easy Sarah? Like, is it really as simple as that? Try it. Go and set up an Askable account, set up an Upwork account, set up a Fiverr account, a people per hour account, and put yourself on there as a freelancer saying you've got four hours a month and watch. Just do it. It costs you nothing to set up the account. Why not try it? Most people will hear this and go, it sounds like bit effort. I don't really know what the steps are, so I'm just not gonna. Actually, again, with ChatGPT, ask it what the steps are and it will tell you, will teach you how to do it. Like, there's so many ways. It's, again, it's about effort to want to do it. If you wanna do it, you will. If you don't, you won't. You know what the best example for me of this was? So obviously I just had to do a mass clear out of my old house. And um and so there were so many clothes. Like, my god, my my mum's literally like, How many clothes have you got? I've got a lot of clothes. So and some of them even had their tags on it, to be completely honest with you. And I thought, my god, like, you know, I had this green jumpsuit in my wardrobe, and I'm like, what was I even thinking? When have I when have I ever been green? I'm not green. When have I ever been green? Anyway, point is is that The easy thing for me to have done is literally just shove them in a bag, walk them to the charity shop and just go, right, that's done finished. I thought, do you know what? I'm just gonna test drive vintage. I'm just gonna give it a go just to see like what happens. And I tell you, it's all results driven with with me because I just started to see like, oh, this actually works. People are actually buying this and you get hooked. It's like an addiction almost, because you go, I've just made 15 quid, I've just made 20 quid. Like, this is great, let's do it. last night and I woke up and I was like, yes, three quid, happy days. I love it, I love it. Three quid exactly. And you know, I remember when COVID um was on, and obviously I get bored very, very quickly. So I became addicted to selling things on Facebook Marketplace to the point where literally I was um like uh lit lit literally I was selling the whole house. I I and you know the other thing I did, which was a bit ridiculous, I realized that there was a huge, huge market for um dumbbells and exercise equipment on Facebook Marketplace. Where actually it cost more than what it would cost in Sports Direct or somewhere else, because they'd all sold out and the the suppliers weren't supplying. So I was selling like my dumbbells for like thirty-five quid. And you know what? Okay, and and the funny thing was was I got so addicted to the thought of making money that I obviously gave away all of my gym equipment. So when I went to want to work out, I was like, I haven't got any of my gear. I've solved it all. So yeah. got a friend of mine and so some people listen to this will be thinking, yeah, but Sarah, I haven't got anything to sell on Vinted and I don't have time to go to a carbo and buy stuff to sell on Vinted. I don't care about that either because actually a friend of mine, she offers to her friends, I will sell your stuff on Vinted for you and I'll take 40 % of the money. So basically her friends turn up at her house, people on Facebook that she posts about, people that haven't a clear out. She will, they'll turn up at house with big, like bucket loads, bin bags full of stuff, kids clothes, adult clothes, whatever. She will write a list of all the things that have come from that person. She'll load them all onto Vintage. She'll manage all of the comms, all of the conversations. She'll sell them. She'll do the postage. So then send her friend like a report of, em I say report, it sounds fancy, just a list. I this jumper for this much. My 40 % cut is this. I'm sending you 60%, right? Now she hasn't got her own stock. She hasn't had to leave her house. Her friends bring the stuff to her. She sends them the money back. All she does is manage a Vintage account. That's it. That's genius. That's absolutely genius. people's stuff. Because I'll be honest, not everybody can be asked once they've had a clear out. They're like, oh, charity shop's just easier because they ain't got time to do it. Well, what if on Facebook you started to post just a couple of times a week, if you're having a clear out, instead of putting your stuff to the charity shop, I will do it all on Vinted and I'll give, and for 40%, choose your number, maybe it's 50%. Like if you've got anything you want to get rid of, I'll manage all the process and you'll still get paid. Post that a couple of times a day, every day for 30 days and you'll have a bucket load of stuff delivered to your house and you can sell it all on Vinted and you'll make the money. do you know what? I r do you know what's so funny? One side of my brain is like I'd love to accept that challenge and take fifty percent for everyone and do that, but the other brain goes, No, Athena, you don't wanna do that. You wanna be the person giving someone else your stuff Absolutely. I'm the person that wants actually, if I was having a clear out of my house, like en masse, I wouldn't want to do en masse vintage because I wouldn't have the attention span for it. Doing it on a Saturday morning with 10 items, fine, make 150 quid, happy days, maybe do it like twice a month. That is fun for me, but doing it all day, every day is like a job, it's not something I would enjoy. I'm definitely the person that'd be like, give me 60%. You sell all my stuff for me, you take all the pictures, you put it up, fine. But there'll be some of you listening to this that have got the time. You know, again, a of mine's got a new baby, like brand new. not really sleeping at the moment, is up at night, you know. And again, I know when you've got a new baby, you've obviously got to look after the child and keep it alive. But what she's finding is that she's just walking around holding a baby or sitting holding a baby and actually scrolling on her phone. That's all she's doing because it's midnight. This doesn't want to like have the lights on or do any work. Well, actually, you could manage a vintage account like that. If you really wanted to, you could. Mm. And you could do the surveys at that time. Let's say that you're up feeding the baby. Whilst you're feeding the baby, you could do the surveys and gay, what, like eleven? Yeah, fifteen quid a night. And it's like brilliant. That'll pay for like the, you know, if do that seven days a week, that'll pay for the food shop. Like, brilliant. And and and I think this is what it's all about. It's just about having conversations to say, how can we actually make money? And it's like when you're a child and and you know, when I was at school they set us the challenge of how can you make five pounds? Yep. what what's an idea to make five pounds? And we're gonna do it again. Like, what is the idea to make a thousand pounds? How are we gonna do this? And there are gonna be so many women that I'm so excited that are gonna really embrace this challenge and I know that they are and they're gonna go for it. I think there's so many things, like right now we're in the middle of like summer, or we're getting into the middle of summer, gardens are growing, bushes are growing, weeds are getting on top of people. I, again, if you want to you will, why not go and knock on the house in your village or on your street whose garden's getting out of control because it's a little old lady that lives there. and offer to cut their grass for 50 quid. All right, yeah, it's effort. Yeah, you're gonna sweat. Yeah, you've got to take a lawnmower up there. Yeah, you've got to put the work in. But there's money to be made doing that. There's a lad that has been on one of my courses. He's 16. And all he wanted to do was make money. He's just very entrepreneurial. Don't really want to do uni. 16 years old. And I said to him, why don't you just get some tiny little leaflets made up, put them all through the doors and just become the lad in your village that does the gardens. Invest in a lawnmower, petrol lawnmower, and just once a month go knock on every door in your thing and just offer to cut their grass, offer to cut their grass, offer to cut their grass. He's now got four lads from his school working for him cutting grass. Love it. Absolutely love it. the door and offered to cut grass for 20 quid or whatever it is. If someone knocked on my door and said, can I cut your grass for 20 quid? I'd be like, yeah, do it because I haven't got time. Are these bushes, do you want me to cut them down for you? Yeah. And again, I know people say, yes, but is that 16 year old insured and is, you know, like, I need insurance for these things. Yeah, you do. there's like all of that stuff. I'm not his parent, right? I'm sure his parents signed off on whatever. The point I'm making here is if you want to, you will. Yeah. G so I've got an example of this. So where I used to live, there was a Facebook, um so we've got like a local Facebook group, which by the way, I think local Facebook groups work an absolute treat. I really do. Like for me, that's where I got all my recommendations for all my plumbers, my electricians, everything. Because in a local Facebook group, you can actually rely on the on the comment section. Like if someone says someone's good, they're good. If someone says stay away from them, stay away from them. And you know, I I think that's brilliant. Anyway, so this this this like I think he was about twenty years old, I wanna say that he looked about twenty, um, young face, and he he started his own car washing business. So he said, Hey guys, I've just become unemployed, I've tried to do the whole like corporate route, I keep getting rejected from all of the interviews that I'm going for. I'm gonna try and wash cars. I you know, I like cars, I wanna wash cars. He started this. Everyone started to just really be like, I love this, I love this, I love this, come wash my car, come wash my car. And it basically took off and he started his own Facebook page. So I then I then got him in, because I said, you know, I want you to come and wash my car, because I actually want to meet who you are. And I got chatting to him. And he was Yeah, he goes, it's absolutely blown up now. Um, you know, we wash cars and this is how we do it. And and I thought, you know what, good for you. And because of his story and because of his tenacity, I then wanted to give him payment and a tip because I was like, do you know what? I want to encourage you. I really want you to get out there and to do it. So I think for me also storytelling is fantastic. If you say, look, I'm a mum, I'm a single mum, I'm up all night because I'm feeding the kids at the moment. This is actually what I want to do, this is how I'm gonna do it. I'm starting a vintage account, I'm gonna charge you 40% to do it, but bring all your stuff. You know, I think for me that is what would do so well on the internet. brilliant. No, and not many people are offering this as a service, but it's definitely a service that people need. know, I think a lot of people are too proud to say out loud, I need to make some more money. Mm. They wallow in, and I don't mean wallow as in like self pity, I mean, they churn around in this place of being unfulfilled financially because they just haven't got enough to make it, you know, everything is more expensive. There's no getting away from that. Everything we have, everything we need is more expensive than it was a year ago, two years ago, five years ago. We all need more money than we had. Simple. But. I think people become embarrassed to say, haven't got enough and I need to do something differently. And I'm to put myself out there to tell people that I haven't got enough money and I'm doing something to make a bit of money. Don't be too proud. I can assure you anyone giving you grief about the fact that you've not got any money and you're trying to fix that is more unhappy with their own life than they are with you. anybody who's ever tried to just do a little bit better than what they're doing now. We'll see you and like you've just said, want to support you, recommend you, bring you up, tell you you're doing great. The people that want to drag you down because you are honest and say, you know what, I need a bit more cash so I'm doing something new. The people that want to drag you down for that are unhappy in their lives, leaving to it. Block them, delete them, whatever. You know, and I know that's hard if it's like your friends or family, but in reality, their opinions will never pay your mortgage. So you need to stop being proud and actually start saying, do a vintage service or I cut lawns in my village, or I now wash cars. We talk about young people like 16 year olds and how inspiring it is for them to set up businesses and stuff like that. But you know, if you're a 40 year old mom and you go and start washing cars or cutting grass or whatever, you're equally as inspiring. You're doing something to get out of the... thing that you're in that's not fulfilling, you're not satisfying, you're not working for you, you're doing something about it, how incredible, how incredible that you're doing that. Do it because when it works for you, when it all works out really well, you'll be grateful to the old you for doing it. Mm, I love that. Do you know what? I don't think many people know this about me. I don't like people who just come into my world won't know this. So when I started and I left my well, I didn't leave my job. I I lost my job during COVID, um, which was the um travel industry I was in for seven years, and I started a rent to rent business, I needed some extra cash because when you start a rent to rent business, it doesn't always happen straight away and you just it it pummels you cash because of the whole marketing and everything that needs to go into it. Anyway, so I needed some extra money. I became a an Amazon um delivery driver, what's it called? Prime. I became a prime driver. So they had and you know what? I remember this so well. So they had a depot, but the depot was out in Pool, and I lived in Bournemouth. And I thought, God, why have they not got a depot in Bournemouth? Why have I got to drive 45 minutes with my petrol all the way to Pool to pick up all the stuff to then And Joe, half of the bloody deliveries were in Bournemouth, but yet the depot was in Pool. So irritating. Anyway, my point is, is I I I still went and did it, right? And I made my extra cash that way. And when I really reflect on it, I guess when people ask me, if someone was to say to me, Athena, you're right, Sarah, because for me, you I just got on with it. I just said to myself, I need extra cash. How can I make extra cash? I'm going to become a prime delivery driver. I'm going to do this, this, and this. Because you can do it in your own hours. You can literally choose your hours. You get paid. You know, it worked really well when you need more money to become a prime driver. And you you're so right. I think that we as women get in our own way. And we go on something that I call it's not wallowing, what I call it is the victim triangle. So you literally sit on the victim triangle and you become sorry, the drama triangle, excuse me, it's called a drama triangle, and you sit as a victim. Right on this. So you're either a prosecutioner, a victim, or a rescuer. That's the drama triangle. So you're a victim. And people go, It I can't do that, it's not easy for me. Or do you know what the other thing they do, Sarah, is they give it a go and they're not consistent with it. They do it once or twice, and then life takes over, and then they go back to the way they they was. So this is what I want to finish the podcast with. So I want to leave it on a cliffhanger, as it were. This this conversation is to be continued. on Tuesday night where what we're going to be doing in the community is we're going to be bringing everybody live because I want everyone to really have their their answers, their their questions answered. I want everyone to bring a buzz. I want everyone to bring an energy to all rally and hold everyone accountable to go, let's go make a thousand pounds in the next 30 days. And I know in my heart we're going to get some women who are going to make 30,000 in five days, four days, three days, some are going to take twenty days, some will do thirty, and some will do absolutely nothing with it. And give us all the excuses as to why they haven't. But I'm gonna invite everybody, all women, to come and join that call on Tuesday, because my mission and Sarah's mission is to get women educated financially and to let you believe that you can have your own money and show you how. You will become addicted to it, I guarantee you of that, because once you start to see the money coming in, you're like, okay, how can I make more and more and more? And it will just be like a little snowball effect. So mark your diaries for Tuesday. Come and join via the show notes or just the ME the Word podcast and also come and join our five day challenge, which will be on the sixth of July. but Sarah, I'm really excited about Tuesday because already I just feel like I've even picked up some stuff from you. I'm like, right, surveys. Okay. Um what was the other one that you said that the task one? Askable. Okay. Yeah, do a couple of tasks. I love that. Brilliant. So let's really let's really bring this call on on Tuesday and let's do that. Before I let you go actually, just because I'm curious about about this one, I might have asked you this question before, but I'm gonna ask you again on this on this podcast in case people haven't heard the previous ones that you've done. Um to wrap up this one. So I've asked many people this question before, and it's because I really love having this chat on the podcast, right? I think it's a I think I think I just love real conversation is what is what I really crave in life, if you like. And when I start dating again, Sarah, because I am gonna start dating again, I've already started thinking about the apps that I'm gonna go on. Thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna start dating again. I'm gonna go on the apps. If any guys are listening to this and you're cute and single, come and holler at me. Thena is single and ready to mingle. Athena is single and ready to mingle, absolutely. Um, but I think I'm probably gonna ask this question on like a date as well, because I feel like I'm just gonna get to know them so much quicker if I do this. So my question to you is, what's one question that nobody has ever asked you that you wish that somebody would have asked you? eh Wow, big question. em Have I asked you this before? Okay, so one question that nobody's ever asked you that you wish that somebody would have asked you. myself. Just you life, like what's a question that you wish someone would ask you? God, this is a massive question actually. m I tend to find, I do a lot of podcasts, I do a lot of events and people always ask me about the things that have gone well. I don't think anyone's ever asked me what the thing that I wish I could change the most about my like money business life has been. And I don't know what this like this specific question would be, but I think we probably as a general group of human beings should normalise asking to hear more about the stuff that's gone wrong as as much as the stuff that's gone right. So like I guess to bring it back is no one's ever asked me like what is my genuine biggest regret or mistake in the last 11 years. No one's ever asked me that. Mm, what a question, you see. So what's the answer to that? What is your biggest regret? I went into business with the wrong person to start with and whilst I'll be forever grateful for his influence in my life, like I had a lot of respect for him and the help that he gave me at the time, what I hadn't done was my due diligence and I... I think I was in a partnership that wasn't mutually beneficial. was now as a, I was 30 something then and I'm 40 something now. Looking back, I think I was in quite a controlling relationship actually with somebody who wasn't really bringing the same energy and effort to the table. I didn't know it at the time. And I think had I been brave enough to ask more people, for their feedback on the person, their experience of the person. I probably would have made slightly different decisions in the way that I structured my business and things, because actually it cost me a lot of money and a lot of tears and a lot of stress and all the things. And actually I don't really talk about that very often because no one's ever really asked me about it. But it was horrendous. It was like a really... hard window of time for me. It was someone I trusted implicitly who didn't treat me well in the end. And it cost me a lot of money to fix the problem. I learned a lot and I will never make that mistake again. So I'm grateful that it happened to me. But at the time I never, didn't think I would ever financially recover from it. And that was a really hard window of time. Like that was like 2019, 2019, 20. Yeah. really hard period of time. Hmm. Do you know that's so that's so insightful and so brave of you to say because you're so right. We always talk about or we think that we should always talk about the things that go right, because as business owners, you know, you want to come across as inspiring and you want to come across as this person that goes, you know, this is why we should work together because I've got this and this and to actually say, actually this was a really hard period of my life and and to actually s and to say, Sarah, that you now realize that it was in a a controlling relationship as well. You know, that that is something, and I I tell you, I'll tell you something that's that's I'm gonna share this with you as well, because you've been brave. I'm gonna be brave with you, right? I'm gonna share something with you. And I don't talk about this ever, ever, ever, ever. And and a lot of people don't know this actually, and I and I won't give the details, but I will give the highlighted view of it. Is recently recently, I've had to deal with some situations where, let's just say I wear my heart on my sleeve. Everybody knows I'm that girl. I'm the girl that cries. I'm the girl that loves. I'm the girl that falls deep. Like it's just who I am as a person. I I love loudly. I am I am in your corner all day. I'm the girl that I'm the girl that literally will trust you until you give me a reason not to trust you. And so what's happened recently is I've let some certain women into my life who I I in a way, now that I reflect on it, I was effectively love bombed by these women um who I thought and I feel really stupid for saying this, I remember I saying it to Mum, I said, Mum, these women are gonna be my friends for life. Like I love these women, they're amazing. They came over for dinner, they came for a sleepover, like all these things. They met Mum, like the whole thing. And um and I was absolutely completely and utterly blind as a bat to the fact that these women ended up Um it was two women and they ended up absolutely belittling me, making me feel worthless and being like, actually, you're not who you you think you are, you're not as good as you think you are, and literally came for me. and it was horrible. And I don't talk about it, you know, we keep it quiet and it was a really, really tough time. And this was this was like two, three months ago. And I literally am in the process with particularly one of them of actually now going through a money claims at the moment, um, which I won't talk about in too much detail, but there's a money claim against me where she was sponsoring one of the events and then she decided to pull out and is now coming after me for the refund. And now we're going to court as a result of it. And this person was my friend, this person was my friend, I loved this person, and this is what's now happening. And She was part of the community and everything. So, you know, it's it's very, very difficult when these things happen. And we don't talk about it enough. We don't talk about the things that actually really, really hurt Sarah, really hurt. talk about it. Women don't. Men would have had that conversation openly, publicly, there'd have probably been a post on the internet about it, like they wouldn't care. Women, and I think for me, again, I don't want people to listen to this and think, when I make more money, people are gonna come for me. When I make more money, it's gonna be really hard, so what's the point? Because we're at risk of going into this cycle where we think, God, if I follow their advice, these terrible things are gonna happen. 99 % of the experience that I've had with people in business has been incredible. Incredible friendships, incredible relationships, incredible colleagues, peers and so on, business partnerships that have made money and made laughs and all the things. when it goes wrong, when it feels like, so for me anyway, in this particular relationship, I put them on a pedestal. because they were more experienced than me, they had more money than me, they were, to me, they were absolutely what I thought success looked like. And I wanted it, I wanted it so badly. And I did as I was told, because that's what I thought I should do. And when I started to have the levels of success that actually we were trying to achieve, that was the point, it then became quite obvious to other people, but not to me, that it was like a breadcrumbing type situation. I was never really fully allowed to get involved in the stuff that would take me higher. And people around me said to me, Sarah, you're being worked in a way that's not congruent with who you are. Your values are different. your morals are different and listen I'm not saying that they're a bad person we're just different people they're not a bad person actually again I've got a lot of respect for them and we'll always have a lot of love and respect for everything they contributed to my life because it wouldn't be what it is now without them like I always say this and I wish them well I really do wish them well just not in my life and What I don't want people to think is that when I have success, when I have money, when I do these things, when I start to change my life, my life will be opened up to being, you know, destroyed by people close to me. It is entirely the opposite. But the truth of business is that you will come across people who aren't quite aligned with who you are. And that's okay. It's just about being eyes wide open. And experience will teach you that. It's also okay in the same as it is in relationships in the real world, business partnerships. Sometimes you can start a business partnership and get on really, really well. And just over time, your needs and you evolve as people and you don't want the same things anymore. This is about having honest conversations and having the confidence to say, know, this is not working for me anymore. And actually being okay with changing your mind, even though it's what you said you wanted once, it's okay to say you want something different. And, you know, Whilst it is shit if you're dealing with court and solicitors and cost and all those things, the benefits of having more money than you need, whatever that level is for you, far outweigh not having it. Roger, absolutely, absolutely. Beautiful. I love that. We could talk for hours. But let's carry on this conversation on Tuesday. Um, Sarah, just before then, where can everybody find you? Where are you online? So I'm on Instagram and Facebook on Instagram at I am Sarah Poynton is my name. If I may DM me, if you've listened to this podcast and you want to connect with me, just drop me a message. Cause I'd love to hear like if this has been helpful for you or you know, if maybe it hasn't, you think I talk a load of rubbish. Tell me that too. It'd be interesting to hear. em I'm on Facebook, Sarah Poynton. I'm also em on Instagram. We've got money mechanics dot global, which is the money mechanics brand, which actually m when you go on my Sarah Pointen account, there's a link to that anyway. em And I'll be hanging out in the girls' property community a little bit more as well, which I'm sure Athena will tell you more about at some point. Yeah, fantastic guys. And then don't forget, so check out our our website, which is for the information regarding joining the community if you want to work with me. I'm doing a couple of ninety minute flow and alignment blueprint calls while I'm actually out here in Marbella. they've been incredible, like the ones that I've done so far with with women. Like I can't tell you how just having somebody to just talk to for 90 minutes, i.e. somebody like me, where I can just ask you questions and I can get you thinking differently and creating you your vision to victory plan. 90-minute action plan and really setting those forward. So if you want to also book a call with me and have a chat, then just send me the word blueprint and I can send you all the details of that one as well. m But join us on Tuesday, everything's in the show notes that you need, or DM me the word podcast, and I'll send you the link to join. And we will see you Tuesday night. Sarah, thank you so much for your time and effort. Really appreciate it. As always, and we will see you all on Tuesday. Have a great week, everyone. See you soon. Take care.