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Is Privacy Now Illegal? Inside the Tornado Cash Verdict | Preston Van Loon | Episode 152
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On Episode 152 of The TLB Podcast, James is joined by Preston Van Loon to explore how the precedent set by The Tornado Cash verdict isn’t just about crypto — it’s about whether privacy itself is still legal..
They break down the fundamental principles of blockchain technology, the importance of decentralization, and the growing tension between open-source development and government regulation. Preston shares his firsthand experience suing the United States Department of the Treasury, testifying in the Tornado Cash trial, and how the verdict could reshape developer liability, privacy rights, and financial freedom online.
The conversation also explores financial privacy, the role of zero-knowledge technology, and why privacy-preserving tools are essential to free expression and autonomy in the digital age.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
02:51 - Understanding Blockchain Basics
06:01 - Preston's Journey into Crypto
08:59 - Financial Privacy
11:58 - Tornado Cash
15:09 - Government Response to Tornado Cash
20:54 - Winning the Lawsuit Against the Treasury
44:03 - Navigating Open Source Liability
45:27 - The Tornado Cash Trial
47:16 - Testifying in Court
51:12 - Jury's Verdict and Its Implications
01:02:08 - Impact of Developer Convictions
01:05:46 - Erosion of Privacy and Freedom
01:24:53 - Future of Privacy
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