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The Transparent Podcast
The Transparent Podcast
Ryan Hare - All In On Entrepreneurship
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Ready to stop clinging to the pool railing and actually swim? We sit down with serial entrepreneur Ryan Hare, owner of John Franklin Landscapes in North Georgia, to strip away the myths around business ownership and show what it really takes to build something that lasts. From kitchen-table roofing estimates with his grandfather to design-build projects that turn blank yards into outdoor sanctuaries, Ryan shares why jumping all in beats playing it safe—and how “job security” can be a mirage when you’re not in control.
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Hi, my name is Nick Ford, and I am the host of the Transparent Podcast, where we believe in bringing transparency to the world of small business. And this week I am joined by a guest, Ryan Hare. And Ryan, I will let you introduce yourself.
SPEAKER_01:Hey Nick, so yeah, Ryan Hare, um, serial entrepreneur, uh, owner of John Franklin Landscapes um here in uh beautiful North Georgia. Um yeah, in B and I with Nick and excited to do this podcast with you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, thank you so much for being on the podcast. You know, um I started the podcast with the idea of trying to inspire entrepreneurs, and a lot of times I refer to entrepreneurs as the people that are wanting to get into entrepreneurship. And so hopefully if they can hear from other entrepreneurs who've kind of walked the path ahead of them, they can get some inspiration and maybe get off the fence and go do something with their idea. And so, you know, speaking of small businesses, I know that you've been a serial entrepreneur, as as you've said. So was it always that way? Were you always a serial entrepreneur, or did you kind of start it as a side gig, or how did you get into entrepreneurship?
SPEAKER_01:So, yeah, my mom and my grandparents uh owned a business for years. And um, I was I know my dad, but I don't know my dad. I never really had anything to do with him, which I look back was a blessing. So I was always with my grandfather. My grandfather was the um the man in my life. And so I used to be with him every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday because my mom had to go to work. And so when I was with him, he owned a roofing company. So I used to go with him on estimates and help him, you know, hold the tape measure and stuff like that. And then we would go into people's house and sit at their kitchen table, and he would leave with a bag full of$2,500 in cash. And, you know, back in the day, you know, that was that was a lot of dang money, you know, back in the 90s. Um and I would always ask him, you know, what do I have to do to make money like that? And he said, Well, you got to own a business. And so entrepreneurship was instilled into me. I had no other choice because I knew that I wanted to be able to make money that way and provide for my family and you know, do things that I wanted to do. So for me, it was always it was go all in on being an entrepreneur. There are no other options. And then when I was with my mom, same thing. You know, my mom owned a business with my grandparents, and so same thing when I was with her, it was always if you want to live a great life, you have to own a business, but you're gonna go through hell first.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's a good point to make. It's not always gonna be sunshine and rainbows. I mean, I would argue neither's having a job when you're being told what to do by somebody else, but you know, uh going into business is definitely a huge blessing. That's awesome. You had, you know, your family to look to with the entrepreneurship mindset. Uh, I had the same thing. My grandfather owned a life insurance company. He had uh probably 300 employees when he sold it. So he had a pretty big size company that he was uh he had a he was a 50-50 partner with his partner in. Yeah, and so I looked to him and was like, well, if he can do it, then I can do it. Like, you know, he's not, you know. I mean, I thought he was very special. He was a big mentor of my life, but at the same time, it was just real to me because I saw someone else doing it.
SPEAKER_01:It was the same for me. And my grandfather was like, Ryan, I'm from Maine. You know, I remember sitting in his car and him telling me, you know, I'm from Maine and I didn't do good in school, you know. I I wasn't cut out for that. And I I knew that I had to to make money, and so I would go out. It was kind of like the conversation we were having with your son about whatever it took, like rake and leave, shovel and snow, whatever it was to make money, that's what he did. And then he learned roofing and learned about shingles and stuff, which back whenever he did it, that's all there was. That was the only option was shingles, you know. And so that's what they did. And so he teamed up with my uncle Michael, who owns the company now. My grandfather sold it to him, and uh that's what they did. And man, they they they crushed it. But every conversation was about owning your own business, yeah, and so it's it's just I think that a lot of people that's why I love your podcast about the transparency of it, and like you just said something that really stuck with me about people think it's always sunshine and rainbows, it's it's hell, it's chaos all the time. And look, some people aren't cut out for that, and that's okay. A lot of people are cut out for it, they just don't believe that they are cut out for it. Yeah, that's okay. Like whatever your thing is, it's okay. But at some point, if you're sick of living that life on a hamster wheel, you've gotta just jump, you've gotta jump off, and it's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt for years. It's uh it's hell before it gets better. But I think that people need to be really uh transparent about that and really direct about it because I think that's the part that most people are afraid of. What well, what if I fail? So what? Try it. What would you get fired?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, what if exactly isn't that feeling?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Because like you see people like on Facebook right now that always post that just got let go of my job. Well, you're you failed, right? Well, did you fail or did the business fail? It's the same thing in business ownership.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. My wife was very hesitant about I well, she knew from the time we met I wanted to own a business, but when I was thinking about starting it, she was very hesitant about it. And then, like a lot of people, COVID happened and I got let go during COVID. And then it was kind of obvious to both of us like, okay, having a job isn't necessarily more secure. Like you can they they can fire you for any reason at any time, versus at least you have some some control of your destiny when you own your own company and can and and can grind it out and make it work. But you know, I I love uh watching Shark Tank and they always preach that you gotta jump all in. I'm I'm I've you've kind of said it already, but you think that too. You gotta jump all in on your idea and go full throttle at it, right?
SPEAKER_01:I I don't think that there's any other way. Anything here's my thing with it. Like, I remember when I had to learn how to swim. My best friend Jeff Mannion, I lived right behind him. His dad got so sick of me always hanging on to the railing because I didn't know how to swim. All the all the baseball players would be they would be swimming and swimming and playing, and I had to sit on the steps and hold on to the railing because I was afraid to let go. Finally, one day he looked at me and he went like this, and I was like, oh no, he got like that look on his face now that I'm looking back, right? Picked me up and threw me into the pool. I had two choices drown or swim. I'm still here today, so obviously I swam. That's it's the same thing with business. Anything that you don't put your all into will never work. Yeah, right? That's my belief. Because I look at a lot of people now, people start that way, I get it. But you get people that start that way and then they have their job but they still have their side hustle, and their side hustle is working, and it's only giving them so much because they haven't put their all into it. Then they quit their job and they put their all into it, and boom, they pump out a half a million dollars a year in revenue.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I truly believe that you have to go all in just like swimming. You cannot hang on to the railing forever and expect that you're gonna learn how to swim.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely. Well, I know that you've had a background in the auto industry and were in that industry for a while. So, what inspired you to get into landscaping and start John Franklin?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, my my dream, my grandfather wasn't a general contractor, but he was dang close. You know, they build editions and stuff like that. Um, I've always been in love with design and build. I love when someone tells me their idea. We have this idea of having this swimming pool out there and you know, this live outdoor living space and stuff. I see it before it's done. I have a vision for that kind of stuff, and then the tenacity that it takes to make that come to life is so to me so much fun. I love solving problems. Whenever someone comes in a blank space in their backyard and they want to make it this, there's a lot of problems that have to be solved to make that dream come alive. I've I fall in love with that aspect of it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's I love that I that idea of you know you seeing the vision for someone's project and then be able to make that come to reality. That's really cool. That's awesome. That's gotta be fun and fulfilling to do.
SPEAKER_01:And I in and in in in entrepreneurship, you know, you you you know this, you can relate with this. There's levels to this game. You know, there's you can solve problems for a thousand dollars, you'll suck at it at first, but you'll get really good at it. Then you can solve problems for five thousand, then ten thousand, then a hundred thousand. You keep on going up these levels and you keep getting better at it. Um, yeah. With our automotive and residential and commercial window tank company. I don't want to sound cocky or arrogant, but there's not a problem that someone couldn't throw at me in that business that we couldn't solve. And so when people started asking me, what are you gonna do? I said, I don't know. I need something that has bigger problems. Like I need to dig a swimming pool for somebody, and then we lay all the rebar and all the pipe, and the next day it rains and it all falls in. Like that's the kind of problem because those are half a million dollar problems. I've mastered five thousand dollar problems, and so like that's kind of how we looked at it because there's levels to it, you get really good at it, it's really uncomfortable, but you get you get really good at it. It can be very uncomfortable with that partner, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, for sure. Yeah, solving more and more complex issues. That's all business is is solving problems for people. Yeah, um, so you you started um John Franklin from the ground up. I've I've looked into franchises, and uh specifically, I looked pretty significantly into coffee, a coffee franchise, and I did see that as a side business. I wasn't planning to quit transparent staffing and go into that, but there's pros and cons to buying a business or buying a franchise. You know, you're you're kind of paying for their playbook, but then you're also restricted by the playbook. And you're kind of the more and more I looked into this coffee franchise, the more and more I felt like, okay, I'm really gonna be working for them now. They're gonna get a percent of the revenue, I gotta follow their guidelines, they're gonna be handling marketing. So I decided not to do it and just thought, okay, if I want to start a coffee shop, I'll just do it on my own and the same way I did with transparent staffing, which I've loved having control over everything when I've started this from scratch. What do you think the pros and cons are of both?
SPEAKER_01:You know, I've never have purchased a franchise or done that. Um, I do know people that have, um and they're miserable.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um for me, when I go to IKEA, I'm trying to look for the best way to answer this so it makes sense. When I go to IKEA and I buy furniture, if I ever went there, if my wife allowed me to, when I bring it home and I open it up, I'm not gonna follow the instructions. I don't follow instructions. A franchise, that's all it is. They literally have a book, an FDD is exactly what it's called. It's about it can be anywhere from 280 pages to 10,000 pages, and it's the instruction book, it's the Bible of the company, and it literally tells you everything that you have to do word by word and exactly how they expect it. Because somebody sat with an attorney and they put that entire book together, that FDD. I I couldn't do that, it's just not for me. I'm not saying that there's not successful franchises. It's to me, there's tons of successful franchises, and I mean no disrespect to those people, but for somebody like me that doesn't play by the rule book, I couldn't do it. Yeah, is it a easier way for somebody that wants to become an entrepreneur? Let's say husband and wife want to open up a business, they're sick of working full-time, they find a franchise and they're like, hey, we're gonna buy into this. Is it easier? I don't believe so. I believe business is hard whether you have an instruction booklet or not. Um, that would be my take on franchises. You know, I think I think a lot of people think it's like taking your phone and typing an address in the maps and it tells you exactly where to go. It's not that it's not what it does. It's still gonna be just as hard as you know, creating a coffee shop. So my recommendation for people would be hey, if you want to start a coffee shop, don't buy a franchise. Just just dive in and uh join a B and I group and relate with other business owners that will tell you, hey, this is gonna be hard. You know, you're gonna need this person and that person. But if you have any questions, come to us. Get around like-minded people that can help you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's just better as paying that franchise fee. It's better than paying the franchise fee.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, I would just go research coffee shops. Like, that's what I started doing. Like, and then, you know, for the coffee shop thing, it took me like five minutes. I called her, I called one real estate agent and asked her about a location to start a coffee shop because I was pretty serious about it. And she gave me some great advice. She was like, if you don't start a coffee shop, partner with a local coffee rooster and serve their coffee and to have it be your coffee shop. Call it Transparent Coffee Shop or whatever you want to call it, but serve Valor Coffee. They're a locally well-known coffee maker. People will come to your shop just because you serve Valor Coffee and then get some you know food items in there and you got a coffee shop and it'll do pretty well. And that's about five minutes to make that phone call.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So my thing is is well, not my thing. I heard this from somebody else, and it when I sat with it, I was like, man, that makes sense. He's like, look, if you want to be the biggest, baddest dentist in your area, go find and go visit the biggest, baddest dentist in the area. Schedule an appointment with them, see how they're answering the phone, see what their system is, go in, have the appointment, see what they do, what they say, what's the place smell like, what's it look like? If they're the biggest baddest in the area, just mimic what they're doing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like in in school back in the day, you used to be called a copycat. You little copycat. Look, as an adult, I'm a copycat. Because when we first started John Franklin, I called the biggest baddest company here, and I learned their process. Hell, I scheduled an appointment to had them come over to my house and give me a quote for a swimming pool because I wanted to see what their process was.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Looked at their marketing. What are they doing? Facebook ads, Google ads, what do they do? And you literally just mimic what they're doing. Isn't that all a franchise did?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's all I think.
SPEAKER_00:I think you know, I love studying successful people and what makes people who succeed succeed and what makes people who fail fail. And that's I think successful people study other successful people. I mean, if you if you could follow Warren Buffett's trades every day, would you go like play the market on your own, or would you do what Warren Buffett's doing? I mean, the guys I mean, if you if you had that Intel, why would you do anything else? But info is all out there. You just said there. Just look for it. Research. Now we have AI. I mean, you can find anything.
SPEAKER_01:Any, and it will answer it for you.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Except for the lady yesterday that told me, well, ChatGPT told me it should cost this much. Oh, yeah?
SPEAKER_00:Go have ChatGPT build you a heartscape.
SPEAKER_01:I said you have ChatGPT bring their excavators and bulldozers over and fix your erosion issue for you, then.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Um also the franchise thing is is it's just it's not for somebody like me. I think that there's people that it is for. They need that structure.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I agree. And it it it's I wouldn't knock it. I mean, there's there's pros to it for sure. And I know I have some friends that have been successful with franchises. And um, I think the biggest issue though that people have, and I I worked with a few different restaurant groups when I was in outside sales, the issue that they have is franchise owners who think they don't need to be involved in the business, that they they think they bought a business that's going to run itself. That's why Chick-fil-A, which isn't necessarily not really franchises, they call their owners operators, but they force their operator, their franchise owner, to be in the business. They have to work in the business, they can't be uninvolved, and that's why they only let them have like one or two locations per owner. Um but you know, some of those other restaurant groups I worked with, they'd have a franchiser that bought one or two locations and then was literally never there. They bought like a store manager, they hired a store manager and then walked away basically and thought they just had uh money coming in the in the bank and they did not do well. Yeah, yeah. But that's true with any business, you gotta be in the business. But so you're like a year and a half in now with John Franklin. So how do you continue to scale? How do you grow to the next level?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so the cool thing for me, and I kind of call it a cheat code a little bit, uh, is Jenna's very well versed. You know, we have a team of people that do work, you know, for art for another company that we have uh for all the marketing stuff. Um, I've learned throughout the years that there's 10 pillars in business. Um, the first five are the most important when you're trying to grow your business, you know, because there's a big difference between growing and scaling. Growing is putting things in place to get somewhere. Scaling is taking what you already have and maximizing it. So right now we're in the growth stage. Um, so the biggest thing is is you know, our strategy, marketing, sales, um, finance, and people. That's the five things we are focused on right now. Um, a lot of people think growth is just hiring more people and closing more sales and getting the work done and bringing in the money. Um, there's so much more of a strategy to it, and that's what we're working on. Um, of course, we want to bring in revenue and stuff like that. So, but we're getting ready to pop up some billboards, a lot of marketing. We want to we are a marketing company. Um, we will market very heavy um on the video, um, Google ads, you know, paid ads, all that kind of stuff, and then we're putting up billboards as well. So that's our that's kind of our strategy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I love the name too, John Franklin Landscapes. I mean, it it sticks out for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Um it's funny, a lot of people will respond to me and say, Hey John, they think plenty of John. And and and just so you know, and like so people know, we just we thought that it sounded cool that name. Like John, most people don't know that Betty Crocker was not a real person. Yeah, that's not a real person. Aunt Jemima was not a real person, John Franklin, not a real person. It was just, you know, we we have horses and we're in the equine industry, and so we just thought that this guy with a cowboy hat on, hey, John Franklin, perfect, and it was easy easy to market.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, it's a great name. Yeah, it works for sure. Um, well, so you've been an entrepreneur your whole life, it sounds like your family have been entrepreneurs, you know, you've seen what take it takes to succeed. I love studying, I said this already, but I love studying successful people. And so I've had a few things on the podcast, like The Strangest Secret by Earl Nightingale and uh the do-it speech by Art Williams, where they're like talking about success and what separates successful people from people who fail. But what do you think, like if you're gonna name like the number one or number two things you see in successful people that sets them apart, which we have a bunch of them being I, but um what do you think what do you see that is the biggest factor, I guess?
SPEAKER_01:Um, in successful people?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That sets them apart.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, um, what's six to eight inches between their ears, their mindset? Um I can say my mindset has been built over the years, and and listen, I'm not the most successful person. Hell, I don't even know if if I am considered successful or not. I've had my sharefara failures. Um, but uh that's how I've learned. Um, but I can say that my mindset at 38 years old is one of the strongest that it's ever been. But I meet people in BI or just, you know, like tonight I'm going to dinner with a guy that just sold a company for$100 million. I literally met him and his wife at ATT because they asked me about my hat, and we became friends, and we're all sitting there crying, telling our stories about how we've got to where we were. And this guy just sold a company for$100 million. I'm going to Eddie V's with him for dinner tonight. I know one thing about this guy, his mindset can't be broken. One of my biggest regrets in life was not joining the military. That's one of my biggest regrets that I will go to my grave with. I should have done that and I should have become a Navy SEAL. Everything that I do in business, I look at, well, what would a Navy SEAL do? I know two of the guys that are Navy SEALs and their mindset is crazy. But then you talk to a guy like Brian Scott, and when I talk to Brian, all I think of is this guy's mindset can't be broken. And that's what I think of once of successful people. What did you go through to get that mindset? That's always what I that is one of my favorite questions to ask. It's like going to the gas station and seeing the guy with the Lamborghini Urus. Most people are raving about the car. I'll walk up to that person and say, Hey man, how many failures did you have before you were able to purchase this car? And most of Time they'll go if only we had the time, right? Yeah, mind for sure. Mindset.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, mindset. Yeah, I agree. I think mindset is huge. That the perseverance, like the just um, and being willing to fail, like and fail forward, so that you're moving forward if you do fail. We just did that.
SPEAKER_01:We just we literally just did that with 10 360. Yeah. I have people messaging me, man, what happened? What happened? There's only two people that know. Don't worry about it. We're good. Don't don't don't worry about it. We failed forward. We had to, we had to. It's like it was like uh Michael Phelps jumping in the swimming pool to swim laps with clothes on. The clothes are holding him back. But as soon as he takes the clothes off and goes down to the swimming gear, what happens? His times got faster. He gets faster. Same thing. Fail forward. And a lot of successful people have done that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, for sure. I would add, I think that uh one another thing that separates successful people is having goals. I mean, you have to know where you're going. You know, a ship without a destination is never going to reach it if it does if the ship doesn't know where it's going. So I think successful people know where they're going, have goals that they're working toward, and have the mindset to get there.
SPEAKER_01:So I think what you said is that there's no better feeling than setting a goal for yourself and accomplishing that goal. Like, for example, my daughter does barrel racing. Reagan's pretty good at barrel racing. She had a goal for herself to make BBR, which is better barrel racing. It's a series that you have to complete to be able to go to this race in like Oklahoma. It's like a six-day race. Well, you have to qualify for it. She got the text message yesterday that she qualified. So she is ecstatic about it. And I said to her, I said, You remember that hard conversation we had a couple days ago and what you did. I'm proud of you for setting a goal and accomplishing it. Because the beauty in that is there's days that you wake up that you don't want to do it, and that's normal. And that might happen, you know, 300 days out of the year where you just wake up and you're like, I don't want to do this today. That's the day that you have to show up. Yeah. And that takes me back to that mindset. If you don't have that mindset, that little devil on your shoulder is gonna keep telling you, don't show up, and what are you gonna do? You're gonna lay in bed and play the victim.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I think uh you gotta be willing to show up and keep working every day, even when you don't want to. And that can be that can be tough, even as an entrepreneur, it can be tough. And another thing to keep in mind, it's like you the buck stops with you as an entrepreneur, you don't have anyone else to fall back on.
SPEAKER_01:No, so it's hard, man. It's it's you know, uh every time I talk about this stuff, I get like emotional about it because uh so many people don't understand. They they just don't get it. But man, if if we did a better job of of teaching people and like having more podcasts like you have about that people that are just willing to shine their light and help other people, man, we would have so many we wouldn't have the amount of people struggling to buy groceries that we have. Yeah, we wouldn't because there's there's opportunity everywhere. I mean, like you drive down the road now, you see signs that say we'll come pick up dog poop in your yard. Like you can do anything and make a business.
SPEAKER_00:We had someone visit our B and I chapter that was doing dog pooping scooping services.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the the uh my daughter has a guy looking at a horse right now that is not cheap by any means. Do you know what this guy does? Hangs Christmas lights for people. I'm like, how is he able to afford this? Yeah, he's solving a problem for people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know, there's no neighborhood that paid for it.
SPEAKER_01:Thousands of dollars. Yeah, there's opportunity everywhere. If you it what what is uh what do the people say? If you can think it, ink it. It's if you can think it, solve it because somebody has the problem and they're looking for somebody to solve it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and if you don't do it, someone else is gonna do it. Oh. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're a business owner, you have been for a while, so this should be something you've got ironed out, I'm sure. But how do you spend your time? How do you allocate what's the most valuable area of the business to work in?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so for me, I am uh I am not a person that can sit behind a computer screen, so I don't do the accounting and then all that stuff. Um, the marketing, I I can't sit still. I'm a go, go, go guy. So I'm more your operations and logistics and stuff on it for our business. Um, but you know, there's days that you know I do our estimates and stuff like that. I go to the people's house for the consult and start that whole process. I don't do any of the design work. We have designers that do all that. Um, but my my part of the business is uh you know, to sum it up is sales and operations.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, that's the same, same for me. Um, which I love doing the sales side. I love working with clients, I love being an operator. I don't like doing the accounting and the the those kind of tasks. Um, and I think that's important too to realize that you know, as a business owner, someone else talked to me about it, but they're they were like, look at how much you would pay an accountant to do your books, and then look at how much you want to pay yourself. If you can pay an accountant to do your books for less than what you'd pay yourself, and they're gonna also do a better job at it, it makes no sense for you to waste your time doing books, focus on sales or operations or do something else.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh it's like in business, the same thing. Whenever I had our window 10 company, I said, I'm gonna tin all the windows because nobody will ever do it as good as I can. And I was stuck in that mindset for 10 years, maybe longer. In business, the owner's job is to become a phenomenal leader and lead the team to complete the tasks. You have to hire people that are better, smarter than you. You have to because you ultimately have to buy your time back. It's the same with an accountant. Hire someone that's better than you and then spend the money to buy your time back so you can focus in other areas. Because right now, what I hope is that there's somebody listening to this that is in their business that says that they're a business owner. But if they go on vacation for a week, their business shuts down. With all due respect, you're not a business owner, you are self-employed. I hope someone's listening to this and they have had it in their ear for a while that they have to hire somebody. When you hire somebody, don't look at what you're paying them. Don't worry about that part. Look at how much of your time you're buying back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that's part of growth in business.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, I think that's great advice.
SPEAKER_01:And that comes with accounting as well. Like you meet a lot of business owners that are like, well, what do you do? Well, I run our business, but I do the marketing, you know, the posting on the Facebook and Instagram, and I also do the accounting. Stop that. It's not working. You think it's working, but I'm telling you, it's not, it's not working. You're more valuable somewhere else.
SPEAKER_00:100%. Yeah, I definitely agree. Um, well, so what advice would you give to a entrepreneur who's on the fence? Or what would you do to say to them to encourage them to take a next step or to you know let it go? Or what would you advise them on?
SPEAKER_01:Jump. Jump. Just jump. Yeah. Go all in. Go all in and work on your mindset. Nothing ever nothing great has ever been created by somebody sitting on the fence. Take a chance on yourself. What's the worst that can happen?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You fail and file for bankruptcy, whatever. You'll meet nine out of ten successful people have done that. Just jump on it.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I I agree. Take the first step, do something with it. Don't stop sitting on the fence and and test the market, or like you said, put if if you think it, would you say if you think it ink it? Yeah, like write it down, make a business plan. Like that's so much easier than sitting around wishing, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Or don't just just start.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like when I started, people asked me, what's your business plan? What? Make money. What? What is that? I don't, I don't, I don't really believe that. Just start. Figure that out later. Go solve a problem for somebody, get paid. Now do it again and do it again. You have to start.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So many people get themselves around their family and friends, and they're like, Well, you're you're really safe over here, Sarah. But if you jump, you know, this is what can happen. Damn it, jump.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, love it. Um, well, hey, thank you so much for being on the podcast and uh sharing some of your story. Well, tell us a little bit more. Where can we find you, especially for people who are local to the area? Where can we find more information about you? Where can we request a quote on a project we want to do and that kind of thing?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure. So JohnFranklinlandscapes.com. Um, go on there. That's our website. You can fill out a form. Um, I'm the one that answers or Jenna answers. Um, email, Facebook, social media everywhere. Uh, not only you know do we have the landscaping and stuff like that, but I am all about entrepreneurship. If someone's listening to this and they're like, man, I I live in your area. I would love to have a call with you or meet you somewhere to ask you questions. I own a flower shop or whatever. Like, whatever it is, I am the kind of person I will shine my light for anybody that needs help. It's not this like this isn't only about John Franklin landscapes. I love helping other entrepreneurs. There's things that I've been through in business and life that I want to help people. Um, I believe we need more people like that. So that is one of my missions is to just help people. So you can find me anywhere on social media. I do have to fix my LinkedIn. I do have a LinkedIn profile for some reason I cannot get logged into it. I'm going to get gonna put that on my calendar and get that done because I get a lot of people that say, I found you on LinkedIn, but you don't ever respond. So that's a goal of mine to get that fixed because I know that people out on there.
SPEAKER_00:For sure. Well, cool. Well, I will leave a link to your website in the show notes. Um well, thanks again for being on the podcast. I really appreciate it. This is this is great.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, good. I hope I can help some people out by you know saying some of the things that I said.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you definitely will. Thanks, Ryan. I appreciate you.
SPEAKER_01:All right, thank you, Nick. Have a great day.
SPEAKER_00:You too. All right, bye bye.