This episode was sponsored by Penguin Solutions.

In this episode, Jenna interviews Rudy de Anda, head of strategic alliances at Penguin Solutions, about the benefits of using VMs and containers together.

They discuss: 

• Why VMs and containers go well together
• Challenges of making this convergence happen
• Use cases where VMs and containers are better off separate

This conversation is based on a recent webinar, which can be found here: https://assets.itopstimes.com/penguin-solutions-webinar-september-2025