TGP- High Point Review with a little ADHD

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All the things that you're gonna go and both buy a WR you idiot like fire up, all right?

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And she's like, no, no, dude is 177. Our family 177.

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List of the writers.

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Oh, yo, welcome back to TrueGroom Podcast. Ori, William, Jim's out there in the background in his own shop working on stuff. So I I'm hoping that he has his headphones in, so when I start saying stuff, I mean he hasn't looked over yet.

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So we'll see, unless he's just pretending.

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But he's got a weird grin on his face right now.

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Yeah, I think he can hear you better watch what you dude.

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Maybe he's got one of those audiobooks in, like the wives listen to, you know, smut ones.

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Oh, that's why he's smiling.

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And then he put its big raging into you know what I mean? Oh, what I hope not.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

No, yeah, it's just my wife. Sometimes are fine. Yeah, like Jim.

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Sometimes my wife'll be reading a book and she'll like read this page. I'm like, oh my gosh! Like, whoa, how am I supposed to keep like compete with that? Yeah. I feel like I'm gonna be arrested if I did any of that. That'd be bad.

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Yeah, that's just her fantasies, bro.

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I mean, it does work out sometimes. Yeah, sometimes is that's it's pretty good.

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Or Ken Roxon.

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Yeah, which you know, it's weird, her eyes are always closed. Anyways, we had uh high point over the weekend.

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Is that what it was? I think it was perfect, yeah, dude. Uh, did you notice? So, since we're going to the race coming up, like I've been looking at like more like spectators and stuff. It didn't look like a good track for spectating, like all the people were far, like you the whole hillside was covered, but they were a long way from the track. Damn near on the track at Fox Race. We were close, yeah. Like Jorge locked eyes with you every corner, like you know, like that's how it was. But I hope that the viewing is good at Washugal.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Like you brought up George, okay, like okay, he'd had a phenomenal first round and he was up there like we all expected, right? And because of his freaking fan, yeah, the one fan. So that's what I'm saying. Sorry, okay. He has been he's been off the podium, it hasn't been great.

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In fact, Marsh Banks is like breathing down his neck, and like if I go team George to watch Shugle, we expect yeah the podium.

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If he's not up there, like in qualifying, I gotta take it off, bro. Right?

SPEAKER_00 2:37

I gotta abandon ship. Yeah, that'd be okay. That'd be okay. Yeah, I was thinking what bring a backup shirt, you know.

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Diggs. Well, dig. Well, I was thinking since we'll have the children there, yeah, maybe wearing like an underarmor shirt, something like a like a skin tight shirt, like a silky shirt, but then the team George, so not fully belly button. I like it, yeah.

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I mean, gotta be like, you know, within reason.

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Or do I just F it? And this is the father. Well, then I'm and then I got my kid a Team George shirt.

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Yeah. Have you cut it yet?

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No, I haven't got it yet.

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But like if I do, yeah, I probably win you do.

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Win, yeah, yeah. And he's gonna be like, Why do I why do I have to wear this?

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Like, Dad, nobody else is wearing these. Like, yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well, you know what? Whatever you want to do, however, you want to, your son to you, yeah. It'll be fun. But the crazy, I mean, we don't have to come shooting home after that one. So we're gonna just watch all the podium interviews, all the you know, so you think the boys are gonna be pretty worn out, worn out by then? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, they'll get over it. They're men, we're raising men here.

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It the sun won't bake them as much as we were getting baked by the sun, so we should be all right. Could we see what happens? Yeah, yeah. Before before we get like super into the high point, dude. I miss I miss GoPros on helmets. Like, I saw some stuff from the GPs, and it's like, dude, this not all the time, you know, it kind of gets you a little nauseous, but like a couple of those starts, it shows you how freaking gnarly and how fast and tight.

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And it's like, holy crap, it's some of those crashes, needs to be on top of the helmet, yeah. Uh like the whole chest, no, or like from like the view from your ball sack, no, no, or underneath the visor, whatever, whatever. No, yeah, like it's gotta be up top, yeah. Like watching Villapoto and Stuart, and like those. Oh my gosh, yeah.

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I thought it was so sick.

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Yeah, and I like on those ones this the stability, yeah. A lot of S's, you know, lisps and stuff. The sub stability on there, I like that it was a little shaky. Oh, just a little shaky because it gives you like, oh yeah, that track is rough.

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Where more perspective, yeah.

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The GoPro, I have the nine, I put it on there, and I'm like, why am I look why I look so slow? Well, because it doesn't show every bump.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's funny, like I got that GoPro. The boys will run around with it every now and again just stuff around the house, whatever. But like for the most part, don't even use it. Oh, really? Yeah, unless we're in the water or it's on a helmet, don't really use it.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

I haven't even watched a video of when I was on your shoulders on oh, nice. Yeah, I I brought it up the other day and I'm you know and I got distracted and I didn't even watch it. Nice, good job. Oh no, I brought I brought it up because Chandler did the concrete, so that was a last-minute idea too. Like when there was a time-lapse thing, yeah. Yeah, and then I ran out of battery three times.

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So I think still, bro.

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Started plugging in for like 10 minutes and go back out, yeah. And then Blake, so I go up on the hill and I put it on top there. I press the cord is flashing red. And Blake must have said something to Chandler. Chandler comes up to me, he's like, dude, Blake's all nervous, you're filming them. I'm like, Yeah, so when I mess up, I could sue you. Or when you mess up, I could sue you. And then Blake's like, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

That's what I'm saying, Channel. Shut that thing off. Yeah, Blake, it was pretty funny. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, I gotta, I mean, yeah, let's just get in the high point. Perfect. And then it's funny, like, so it's Tuesday. Usually we do this on Sunday. Yes. Sunday is almost like too soon. Like, you don't have enough time to like see some of the Instagram stuff and like fully digest it. But then by Tuesday, like, I've already forgotten like what even happened, you know. It's like, oh okay. Yeah, but I've been pretty excited to to talk about it though. So hopefully once we get rolling that uh it'll start flowing.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

All right, Jim's gone. I can start talking. Fine, even though he's gonna listen back. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Weird. Anyway, yeah, so dumb. I'm an idiot, dude. Just not gonna disagree. Oh my gosh. I was sorry, before we get in there, yeah. I was just thinking about that on the way over here. So one of the guys I I work with, like my best friend at work, he when he's a little bit mean to me, I like that. You know, it's but I always told him that's my love boy and she's like, that's like I feel like me and you get along, you know, you give it back to me. Yeah, a lot of times, like I'll talk shit to people, and they'll and they're just like, uh, okay, you know, they don't give it back. Yeah, but then when I tell people that, then they'll talk shit back, but it's like, no, F you.

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Like, whoa, whoa!

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Yeah, hey, I didn't mean it. Yeah, there's a sarcasm in there, anyways. But oh, so we were we were talking about something before we went live on air, and I'm like, I was thinking on the way over here, I was even thinking about it. Like, Elise, she's so quiet when she's around other people, but it was just me and her, dude. She gives it back, yeah, dude. She's she's a little spicy, and I'm like, yeah, I like that.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Little teenaner, yeah.

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Yeah, was she always like that?

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No, no, no, yeah. Groomed her over the years. Nice terrible choice words. Yeah, that was great. Good job. Which is weird. Okay. Good job. You met Megan when you were 17?

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20.

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20. Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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I met Elise when I was 17. So we're gonna be married 14 years this year, upcoming year?

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Yeah.

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And this October we'll been toget we will have been together 17 years. So, what is that?

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It's more than half.

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That's half for half. Dude, that's weird.

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That's weird.

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Yeah. So I can't blame Kevin for for raising her. I've been I've had half the you've had half the time.

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Yeah, this is your fault.

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This is all my fault. All right, how let's 250s, 450s.

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Let's start with 250s because that's what they did. They started 250s.

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So Casey Cochrane remembers how to ride a dirt bike just out of nowhere.

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There it is.

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Oh, this is how for about 10 minutes, and then whoa, this is really hard up here.

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Oh my gosh, I I don't belong up here.

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Which while he was up front there, when we went down and we watched them live, you could definitely tell like those top 20 guys are on a completely different level. And we talk, I I talk so much crap. Fire kitchen, you know what I mean? He sucks, he's never gonna get it done. Yet, Levi Kitchen is in the 0.01% rider in the world that could win a moto, yeah, you know, 100%, yeah. And even that, even who's the kid we're talking, Casey Cochrane. Yeah, like that kid, yeah, he might get hurt a lot, but just a lead laps and a professional national, you are a badass on cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

For sure.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

Yeah, he Husqavarna is going away, right? Does he get a have you heard anything about if he gets a ride somewhere? I know this is kind of silly season talk, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Man, I haven't, but uh yeah, you now where did he think he does?

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Because I don't know, dude.

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Do you think his results and super costs and everything?

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Do Cottys coming out with a 215 team? True.

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That would be a good which sounds sick. That 250?

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Yeah.

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15,000 RPMs. I yeah, I was I was about that one. That one sounded real good.

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Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

But yeah, there's a lot of spots. I mean, he went 411. So not the first moto was definitely better. It's crazy how much it comes down to starts. The passing on this track wasn't very good either. They they kind of all got in their spots and kind of stayed there, even with Kitchen back to eighth, and then just kind of stayed there for most of the moto. And yeah. So it's hard to go back on Cochrane because he his supercross he got hurt.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

So he kind of does this in outdoors. He never raced the supercross, and even when he does, he doesn't do so well.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

I mean, we got a third of Spring Creek last year, or sorry, two years ago.

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Motorcross, he he's shown speed, he's been fastest qualifier before, you know, and he's been up front.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

So yeah, it's really I don't I don't consider him one of the top guys, like the winners, the the podium contenders, the title chasers. He would be a good like B, uh you know, a B rider or somebody to fill us.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Okay, but on that Tuscavarna team, who's your top rider? D Francisco? Because he's we've seen goods and bads from him. Like he's he was supposed to be like the Ryan Villapoto, you know, like coming off of Team Green or the Adam Seeds rule, and then he gets onto a fat on to a pro bike, and not he was he was battling with Deegan. Deegan, it was those two. He used to Race Ratter D. Yeah.

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And where did he even finish this week?

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I mean, he had a good week, and he had six overall, seven six for six.

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Oh, Rider D. Yeah, yeah.

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But normally, dude, he's he's kind of just in the top ten once in a while.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Yeah. I mean, we got third at Denver Supercross, a couple a couple thirds this year, but yeah. I I would say that he's better than Casey. Overall package. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Well, so anyways, Casey gets out to the good lead. He holds off for about seven to ten minutes, something like that. And then Juju just comes in and gets around him, and then it's just a those first that first 10 minutes of Moda 1 in the 250s was a lot of fun to watch.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Yeah, yeah. Juju gets up there and dude, a halfway he was 5.7 up. It was like Juju. I was like, oh dude, he's got it. Like, here we go. Yeah, and then homeboy fell over. Dang it.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

But he's been the most consistent in the class, it seems like he has.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

I the the title-wise, he's he's looking really good, like he's on the right where he needs to be. Which no one expected, which yeah, no for him, yeah, for sure. Coming off that big back injury and stuff, like yeah, there's a lot of questions there for him, and he's writing really good.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

From the the interviews or the the talk that I've heard that and I wish more riders would do this, is he didn't rush to come back, he took off all that time and made sure before he was 100% before he came back, which for himself do great. Good job. Don't don't be an idiot like some of these guys.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

That's so don't yell at me when I won't ride a dirt bike for another three months because it's different with you. Oh, it's different.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, because I can't ride. We're a package deal, dude. Oh shit.

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I'm bringing the whole team down, the whole team.

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All two of us, all both of us, anyways. But yeah, so good for Julian.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

So then Davies goes out front and he managed the lead from there. I mean, there's about the same gap the whole the rest of the time. Now, Davies, everybody's oh, he's just a supercross guy. He's a supercross guy. Obviously, he goes one-one on the day. Does that change things, or is that just kind of a luck of this weekend?

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Davies is a racer, so he might not be he might not be a motocross guy, yeah, but he's a winner, and he wants to be up front. Like, there's just some guys that winning seems to come so naturally to them. They don't know when they don't win, you're like, what happened? Whoa, and then like I don't know how you feel you've won more than I have, at least on a dirt bike. And I feel like sometimes screw you. Yes, you it's like how you add on a dirt bike.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

On a dirt bike, not in a car, not a car because you haven't raced a car, yeah, not life, not you know, on a dirt bike, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Yeah, um, but I I feel like when I win, it's like, oh man, I worked so hard for that. But then when you do win, that's kind of easy. Yeah, like why did why does it feel like that? Oh, I I got out front and I no one or even if they did, even if they did, even if someone did pressure you, like, oh yeah, I I don't know. But then when when you're back in the pack, it's like holy shit, this is hard. It's just just to make one pass is like that's how Kitchen was feeling.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh my gosh, he's freaking yeah, I don't know. That is kind of weird, but it it kind of sucks too because you you get that mentality, and it's like, dude, I can't go do a race now because there's no way I could win, and I'm a winner.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

Let's you know, it's like uh you just do like what awesome monk did this week, and you sign up for novice and you win.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Did he do that?

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Yeah, oh in Moran?

SPEAKER_00 16:26

No, something else, obviously.

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Northern Moran.

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Really?

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Yeah, and I gave him I gave him crap, and he uh he like he messaged me on the side, like, oh what do you say? Hey, bro. I got beat by nine minutes overall or something. I don't know from the novice line, come on. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, to Austin, buddy, you're come on, you can do better than that. He says, first race in years, decided to do this very last minute, got a horrible jump, was like third, pulled the on the whole shot, got sprayed with mud, stopped, wiped my gall uh goggles. 450 was barking all day. Got her into third overall novice, first four-stroke sandbagger. I know. Yeah, Austin, move up, do two laps. Yeah, cheater. And I said, I was like, did you say novice? You're a cheater.

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Did you just say? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Good old Austin. But he's he's working in the mines, the actual mines.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Sorry, I'm scrolling out. No, that was good. Okay, so talking about Juju, do you like do you like the number 13?

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It depends on the who is.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah. I I don't like it.

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

It just doesn't work. I don't know. Something's wrong.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Well, I like threes and like ones, but 13 just I don't know maybe it's not like KTM. Maybe I don't know. Something's weird.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

There's there's a couple numbers that I just don't like. You know? Like 69. You know what I mean? Like it's funny. I liked I like that, but I don't like it when people put it on their dirt bike. Yeah, it's like, okay, bud.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Wasn't that one of our buddies' numbers?

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Tom Folk had it on his okay.

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That's who yeah.

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What number is probably because of that reason. What number did Travis run? He had 88. Oh. And then he switched it to 528 because that was his dead brother's number or when he his birthday that he died.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Okay, so it was Tom that had the 69. Tom had 69. Yeah, like ugh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Just feels icky.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

Yeah. Okay, what else? Is that it? Just those.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

666 can't have like old dark side. You can't do no. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

First off, that looks bad, and second off, the message behind it. No.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

I got a credit card that ends in 666, and every time it's just like ah now, there's a couple numbers that I really like.

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177.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

No, no, no. And it it's I'm pretty sure Axel Pearson had this for a while. It was 762. I like that number. And I think that's I think that's Mass's number too, but I associate it with Axel. Axel always ran 7x272. There's another, oh, 752. If you start with a seven, I usually like that. Yeah. Yeah. I like Damon's number. I like the seven oh seventeen.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Well, that's not Damon's number anymore, but that's the Bush family.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Yeah, yeah. The the Which I runs I have 177, right? And I start the 177, right? Not really shortly after. You started that? Oh, okay. Really? Yes. After then he does 117 because. Because I thought you were copying. Oh crap. I was first. I was go in the archives and look. I was first.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Where's the date?

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Because no, no, no, no.

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I saw the bushes. I was like, that thing is sick. And then next thing I see is a white F-150 with 177.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

177. What a stupid truck. It was not sick. Yeah, David, I started that.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Whatever. Or who okay?

SPEAKER_00 20:09

So I'm waiting for you to mention like a three or a nine or a two, but lame.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Lame! Lame, dude. It's too many squiggly. I need sharp numbers.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Oh. That's funny because I like straight lines. Like if I was into a pool, it would be square, not a kidney shape or a round, like square.

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I don't want the round.

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But I like the square.

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However, I do like if it just a two.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Like just two, like Villapoto, Cooper Webb, that two? That looks good.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Villapoto and Cooper Webb. You didn't even die McGrath? I mean, okay, sorry. I'm not that old. Okay. All right, careful. Do you like big digit numbers in in Supercross, Motocross? Like, do you like the 125 or like that's what Freezy was running? Or do you like the 800 triple-digit kind of stuff? Or would you rather the lower the number of the cool the cooler?

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Like if I had if say I was a professional and I had the option of one 177.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Or like, do you like the look of it?

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I think in that aspect, if I got to the professional ranks, I think the lower the number, the cooler. Right. If you could get a number one through ten, you were a badass.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Right. Yeah. So like what about somebody like Ken Roxon or or Hunter Lawrence, where you're kind of branded that number? Like, is that cool?

SPEAKER_02 21:29

No, it's very cool because Ken Roxon, even in Moto GP, he's the youngest Moto GP winner ever. His number was 94.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yeah. It's really cool. Now, going to cars, cars like three digit number is a no no.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Yeah. People look at three digit numbers like ew.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Gross.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Yeah. And I've even mentioned to my dad, like, maybe I'll just do seven. Maybe I'll do 17. No. Just like in the intro. You are 177. And I like the one. One in front of it. It's like, oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah, he's 64. He's 64.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

64 was the year of his first truck. The 64 GMC.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Nice. Yeah. I don't know, dude. If if you did one or the or if you had to do a two-digit number, would you do 17? Yeah, like or 77? Or is that too many six?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

I like I like so originally when I was a kid, I liked 77, but now that I'm older, I don't like the 77 look.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

I feel like it's me neither.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Yeah. I need if I had to do a two-digit, it'd probably be 17.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

Yeah. So like kind of Joey Sivachi. I like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Yeah. Dude, now speaking of somebody who went from a number that I feel is kind of branded into a small number, uh-huh. Like, dude, Sexton, I feel like he should have kept that 23.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

He kind of like like that was like his little number, and then all of a sudden, four? Nah, dude, that's RC or Blake Baggett or something. Like, you know, like that. I don't know. I know he was like trying to rebrand himself or whatever, but it's like, yeah, I don't know if that was a move ever since he switched.

SPEAKER_02 23:09

It's been the downfall. Maybe that's it. Because like when he had the whole the Jordan gear on the Honda. Yeah. Oh, it looks so good. And he was just fast. Now he's just blown out ACLs.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

And have you heard this stuff about Sexton starting his own team?

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

With Michael Jordan going back to the number 23. 23 Motor.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Conspiracy. It's gotta be right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

I haven't really heard I didn't I heard him starting his own team. I didn't know the Jordan thing.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

So apparently, Michael Jordan is looking at buying Supercross. Or no, felt fake news. Fake news. No, just kidding. Starting a race team is what somebody says.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Okay, the group text.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I didn't know it was. I don't know if it is anything to do with Sexton. But let's tie that together. That would be cool. He had the Michael Jordan jersey. Like that's now. Call it the Bulls and whatever.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Michael Jordan ain't gonna put up with Chase Sexton.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Oh, hell no. Maybe that's what he needs, though.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

Like, speaking of winners, winners find ways.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah. On your shop wall at your old house.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Yeah. And I I feel like Jordan's not the type of guy to hear excuses. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? He's uh whatever, how many NBA championships he's won. Dude, from the stories that people would say, like him and Kobe, you know, like they're they're the guy that's already been at the gym for an hour before practices even started.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Now I'm not saying that Chase doesn't work really hard, but he's just not the mentally. I hate when everyone say says mentally tough, but he's not.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Compared to those guys.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Well, I mean, you get something in your head like the bike's no good or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

And like But but Jordan would say I'm not that good.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

True, right? And how am I it's not the ball's fault, it's me.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

It's me, and not just, yeah, I might not be that good, but how can I fix myself? Yep. I could I could come here and shoot a thousand more shots a day.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yep. And this ball's a little flat, but if I push harder down, it bounces up just as high. So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. May whatever is going on, it ain't it ain't good over there.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

And then who is it? Was it Derek or Trent talking smack about Jordan? Like, Jordan's not gonna do motorsports. I'm like, well, he's in NASCAR, and he's leading the damn points. And he sued NASCAR and he won. And so maybe that's why he's leading the points now.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

But this is part you have to win this, all right. But his his team what was that about?

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Uh oh, I I don't I can't I can't I it's a lot. I don't I don't really know exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

It's something to do with like the teen a car and going in a circle, and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Well, like money and the way it's spent in NASCAR, and I don't know. Yeah, that's a lot. I haven't paid attention that much.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Understandable.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah. Should we go back to 250s?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Oh, yeah, is that where we oh yeah, we get got to numbers, and then we just went down this thing. Okay, so yeah, kitchen crash on that first moto two, back to eighth. Yeah, you know, long way to go. Joe, I mean, he made two passes, but I mean, he just wasn't okay. Again, these are the best riders in the world. Okay, Ori and I or Ori and I.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

The best riders.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

With that in mind, dude, like K. Deegan's gone. Like, that's what we we lost to last year. It was Deegan. Okay, he's gone. I mean, you got Kitchen and Joe, I feel like should be like one and two. Like right there. Like, this is your spot. Now you're letting these little dudes uh, I mean, not a rookie, but like like you should be able to beat them.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

But Cole Davies is not the motocross.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Exactly. And I just Joe, what do we gotta do, dude? Okay, he got third this weekend. I mean, with a three-four. But to Juju and Davies, I guess Kitchen got fourth with a 6'5, but a 6'5?

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Like, come on. You're losing to a guy that's not an outdoor guy and a guy that's coming off a major injury. A broken back. Like, and I guess I guess Kitchen's got the back thing and Joe had the neck thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Yeah, true. Okay. All right. Sorry. But like, guys, so in a way, both of them, like, if say they don't win this championship, neither one of them, right? Like it's kind of setting them up to be 250 for lifers because like what 450 team is gonna be like, oh, you, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Like, yeah, because look, Cole Davies races 250s next year, then he's on to 450s.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Oh, yeah, and they're gonna make a spot for him.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Say Julian, I could see him winning a coast.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

And then he's got to race one more year and then he's up.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

And then by the time that happens, you have new amateur guys coming in.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

And and then you're just that podium guy. Which I I've heard too, is you can make a lot of money doing that and you keep a ride.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

True, right? So I mean, yeah, that's if you're happy with that, you're happy with that.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

But then you go to the 450s, and then you can't you you suck because you're racing against champions and you're not, and you're not. However, I don't think Garrett has won a champion, and he's killing it.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

He's doing pretty good. And well, I think it was there's like five people missing already, but yeah, he's right there with Jorge.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

I want to say it was a maybe Blair or someone on a podcast say that Joe would do much better on a 450 the way he rides, dude.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

So we watched him at MXON on a 450 and he rode really good. Just the lower RPM and I don't know what it was, but yeah, he looked good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

And I feel I feel like him and Kitchen would be better on a 450. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Kitchen, I mean, he's kind of a big dude, and so I know getting off the gate's hard for him, but so maybe that would be better. And hey, dude, Calvin might have a spot open next year for you, dude. Next week. Next week. Just it's open now. Uh go on up.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Did you hear that that some people have commented on Chase's post, like Yamaha or Star, and he's liked that. Like, oh my gosh, dude. How do you, as Kawasaki, and you see your writer do that? How do you not like all right? I'm docking your pay.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

100%. Like, dude, you're not promoting the brand.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

You're breaking our con you're breaking the contract. You went out of the contract. Perfect. That's the way. You're disharmony or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Okay. I can't I can't see him going a star because you think Deegan's gonna let him come over and be because I mean, I feel like Chase on days could beat Deegan.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Supercross, motocross, either one. Like, do you think that that's and is that good for the team? Like, I and are they even gonna fix anything? Are they gonna be the same problems? I don't know if I'd I don't think I'd do it. I think he needs to just go to freaking Triumph or Ducati or something like that. And then it's settle in, bud. Yeah, it's over. Phoenix Honda. Like, I mean, I hear he wants to get back on Honda. That's what it's like, oh, that's gonna fix everything. Like, no, dude. I Honda's coming out the brand new motorcycle. That's good thing's gonna be rough for a minute.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Like, just I don't I don't know what we could go on on. Dude, right, just down the hole. Yeah. Which we can.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

No. Yeah, it's fine. We don't really know what we're talking about. Okay, the announcers in the in the 250. I was watching, I was like taking notes like I do, you know, enjoying it. Dude, freaking Oh, you're okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

You're saying you'd rather have Joe Shimoter rather than James and Weige?

SPEAKER_00 31:42

No, just none of them. Just silence. No, okay, so the announcers they kept like James and we just kept trying to like predict what was gonna happen. Like, dude, just call what you're seeing. Like, just call the race. Like, oh, here he goes around the outside. Like, like there's none of that. It's just like, oh, I think that he's gonna push forward. Oh, I think that he's taking that line. Oh, I think it's just like, dude, just call what you're seeing on the freaking screen and shut up.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

I think they're trained like that.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Yeah. Like, is that good? Because half the time it's not even right. It's like, nope, he's not settling in.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

He's well, don't you have like what the play by play guy and then now the analyst analyst guy? Yeah. So I think that's James's role.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Like, as a racer, analyze what's going on, not predict what's coming.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Yeah, but you would say, if I were to hit the section, I would do this.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

But I guess, and then or he's doing this because of this.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Because of this.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Or and what he likes to say? He made a mistake right there. Oh, he made a mistake right there. Oh, you made a mistake. He said that like a thousand times. Did he ever explain what the mistake was or why it happened or what you should do to avoid that?

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Not once, dude. Just because Daniel Blair's not on the podcast? That's probably not the podcast. He'll be doing way better. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

No, it's not just Daniel. It's just like every announcement.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Who's gonna make you happy, dude?

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Who's gonna Yeah, he lost a second. Tell us why he lost a second.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Get up, bro. Don't just say he lost a second.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

I would I'll listen to I'll listen to James over Lee any day.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Okay, then I agree with that. But like, I just what is their purpose? Just to make noise? Because that's all they're freaking doing, it's making noise. You're not you it's like, oh, did you just see how he hit that bump and it like made his front end deflect weird? Oh, or you know, oh, look at the outside line, much smoother than the like, like nothing like that. It's which is fine. I like the noise. I like because sometimes I'm not paying attention, and then when I hear okay, if you were blindfolded and you were watching the TV, would you know what the hell was going on? Maybe no, you would not because they don't say who's in front or behind or past the internet.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Yeah, I do, and it drives you insane.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

I like it because you can hear what's going on, but yeah, not with super cross. Oh my god, dude. They don't they don't say what's happening, okay. In NASCAR, you watch NASCAR? Yeah, yeah. Do they talk about who's in the lead and what's happened and how he got there? Or do we like bust off to a backstory about when they were freaking four and he hit this bump one time? Not not much backstory, it's more in the moment, what's happening right now on the freaking screen. Yeah, here. Let's cut to freaking Katie or whatever name is on the floor to tell us a 10-minute interview about something that's irrelevant to what's on the screen.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

That's the one that those are the ones that get me. Yeah, like when they cut to JT or they cut to Katie, and we're talking about something like you said, irrelevant. When they they're four years old, and there's a whole battle for the lead. I don't want to listen to that. Oh my gosh, Kitchen just ran it in on Cochrane, you know.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Cochrane got punted over the side, like no, just no, uh tell your story. Like which I I like the stories, just not in that moment, yeah. Like, do that race before or race day live or after or whatever. Yeah. For sure. I'm sorry, got a little just kind of a little passionate. Yeah, needless to say, the second modus I didn't listen to them.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

No, NASCAR, they know why it they more explain. Hey, the reason the car is doing this is because of this. Cool, yeah, yeah. Like, isn't that but it's more in a rednecky way? Yeah, you know, when you when you turn left and it's the tires are pushing it'cause you don't have enough stagger and just you gotta, yeah, it's yeah, yeah. And you're in your shop, like, oh that's stupid.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Oh, geez. All right, anybody else in the TV class? Either moto. Oh, dude. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no. Is this first moto, or are you still no no go ahead, dude? What about old Seth?

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Okay, so first moto, he was up there.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Fourth, yeah, and the second moto, I'm like, he gets a decent start. I'm like, all right, he's about fourth.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Yeah, I was thinking, I was like, oh, he'll probably get the overall.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

And damn, son, that literally just like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

The cowie curse is back.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Like, we have double red plates anytime we have double red plates. I told you, you're gonna just wean yourselves.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Like, uh, do either one of them have the red plate? I mean, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 36:32

Wait, wait, Kitchen has it, right? It is. I think I am I wrong.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Oh, let me look at the standings, but like, dude, he just and that loop out was pretty violent.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

They were going fast, and then he gets up, he does the whole shoulder. Yeah, have you heard anything? No, I don't know. Like, I woke up with my shoulder sore this morning for no reason, so I can imagine him, just 34 and it's oh my shoulder, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Super, yeah. Uh Kitchen is went leading by one over Joe.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Which I feel so bad for Seth. Like, he's leading the championship, and like that's nothing he could have controlled. I don't feel like like it wasn't a mistake, it just it caught it, yeah. It happened so fast. It was it's not like it's not like he's chased sexton and he pushed the front, you know what I mean? No, he went over a little roller and it just hooked up and went.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

Could you could you help but think about Villapoto when that happened? I was like, oh, dude, he said the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

I mean, and then he had the the championship taken away from him from RJ. You know, it's just this poor kid, dude. He he's been right there.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

It will never be broken. Oh, geez, you must change teams.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

So speaking of pro circuit, I was listening. Have you listened to Pulp yet?

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Uh uh. Purposely didn't. But oh really? Yeah, I just don't want it like to affect what I how I think about.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Well, they they interviewed Nick Romano. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Dude, he's a fill and writer.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

He he spoke well, and he the way he talks and the way he interviews, I'm like, man, he really made me a fan of like first off, you got a cool name, and then then the way he spoke about they they talk about, hey, how was your interactions with Mitch? And he was so intimidated about you know um like going to the interview with him and stuff like that. It was it was a really cool story, and I was like, ah, it made me a fan. Nice. And I know I've been talking crap in the you know just always yeah, just like always, like screw fire kitchen, yeah, explaining the the group text. It's like, well, okay, if I root against them, then they'll win.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

Oh, so that's why I've been so then obviously now you're a fan. Is that why he got 20th of Nick Romano?

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah, he was not he was not so good.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

We went ninth at Fox, sixth at Hingtown, he did third at Thunder Valley, like it was getting better, better, better, better, and then 20th.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

He did say that like this is not his track, yeah. And he in years past he hasn't done well, and he he straight up admitted, he's like, dude, it was me. I got arm pump.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

And dude, doesn't that just make you like him even more?

SPEAKER_02 39:14

Yeah, he didn't blame the bike, he didn't blame the team. He was like, It was me, I got arm pump.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

I need to fix that to whatever why why does that matter? Like him, the ownership part. Why does it even but like it matters so much? Like with me, dude, like at work and stuff, like if somebody screws something up, I get so mad. But like, all you gotta do is take ownership and I'm cool now. Like, if you just say, dude, my bad, sorry, that's all I need. No worries, dude. I'll we'll take care of it. But like when you don't own it, or you like kind of trying to make it seem like it's not your fault, it's like, dude, I get so revved up.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

Now, when say it's at work, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:52

Yeah, and then you are you talking to someone working for you that I'm working for, or that all they tell me to do something, but it's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Huh. Okay. There's this book called Extreme Ownership.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Ooh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

It's I don't know if you're in uh to audiobooks, yeah. But uh, why can't I think of the Dan guy's name? He was in the military, Navy SIL dude, but Jocko. Oh Jocko, it's a book by Jack Black. But no, he it's it's a really good book. And now he goes and he does he talk, he teaches businesses, especially leaders, on how to operate or be a leader within your business, and it all comes back down to you, yeah. Like, and you could apply it towards racing, you apply it towards being a father, a husband, whatever. You take ownership of any situation that you're in. Like, hey, we messed up at this at work. Well it's not that maybe that person messed up, but I'm taking ownership. Maybe I didn't explain it good enough for him. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, yeah, no, when when so or rider, especially dirt bike riders, if they take ownership, hey, I messed up. Yeah, okay, that's awesome, dude. Because look at Chase, look where that's got him. Yeah, you're a champion, but no one respects you.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

Yeah, yep, right? Yep, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Yeah, no one except Lewis. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so annoying.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

All right, who else? Anybody else impressed you? Oh, did where'd our little buddy finish? Did he get in the Kiefer?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Oh, there's someone else. Yeah, where did where is he?

SPEAKER_00 41:35

Sorry, we just keeper check-in 38.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

You know who did good? Who? I lost him. Vincent Way. Oh 2218 for 21st. He's 15, 16?

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Yeah, he's almost made uh he got a point there.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

Yeah. That kid's cool to listen to. The yeah, the interviews that I've I've listened to with him.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

Yeah, he's 17. He was born in 09.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

09. Good lord. Old. And then the way he uh I like listening to Nick too. He's kind of an intimidating guy.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

The way, but their story as like dad's son is kind of cool to follow.

SPEAKER_00 42:20

Yeah. Nice. Anyways.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

No, that's all I got on 250s there.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

Yeah, bummed on chance, dude. I had to do that.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

What's our theory there?

SPEAKER_00 42:34

Just 138. Just he's just hasn't been racing his bad as knee. Give him a minute. I don't know. I don't freaking know, dude. I don't know. I was so high on it. I was like, dude. Alright. Yeah, no more 250. Let's take a quick break and we'll start talking about 450s.

unknown 42:53

Go.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Alright, on to 450s. Which, okay, we we gotta start at uh race day live.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Did you watch it at all? Oh so I think session one, which they don't show on TV. Yeah, Hayden's fastest, right? So obviously he just he's hot shit. Second session, which is on the TV, Jet's going for a hot lap, and Hayden's in front of him takes his line away and roosts him. And then so Jet goes around and just gives him a handful, rap, and then looks back looks back like screw you, kid, and then pisses Deegan off. He starts chasing him. Jet pulls off the track. Pulls off the track. I was like, hell yeah. And then and then after that session, or whatever, Jet ends up being on top, and then Deegan says something to him, and Jet gives him a little the with the hand, like chirp, chirp, chirp.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

And then gives him like a you're a little, and I was like, Hell, finally, dude. Finally. And you know, you you listen to Steve or whatever. He says, Oh, don't let that, don't play into that. Don't, you know, that's what he F that, dude. If someone's gonna talk shit, stand up for yourself.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Yeah. I I mean, I I get it that you know, that's Hayden's thing, but someone's gonna talk shit. I'm gonna talk shit back.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

Well, but and then you see this where where Jet was on the ground at one point, I don't know where it was at, and then he flips him off when he goes by. I'm sure Degan said something.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Yeah, and and Jet just gives him a bird. Like, yeah, hell yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

Like, dude, do not let this little boy some points, which is so stupid, license points.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

So stupid.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Like, we can't, like, in in hockey, you can full on punch a guy, and it's really take your gloves off and fight right there in the middle of everything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know why, but randomly throw your gloves off and fight.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

And just start, yeah, which we're such vaginas about stuff sometimes, you know what I mean? Like, come on, like, dude. Yeah, like let's just let let men be men, you know, and we're we could argue, we could have some conversations.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Well, and didn't Jet say in one of the podium interviews, maybe the week before, or something the track was shit, and he got in trouble for he got fined for saying shit.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

I guess that that's a little different because it's on live TV. He swore on live TV.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

I can see that, but but that's where you draw the line.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Well, we saw the flip-off. Oh, it wasn't on live though. You're right. All right, you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Well, I don't know. I I don't know how that works if it's like on live TV.

SPEAKER_00 45:36

Because didn't did Jorge flip somebody off in Supercross over the finish line? No, or did somebody AI fix that?

SPEAKER_02 45:42

I'm pretty sure there was AI and then he fake punched, which he shouldn't have got, he shouldn't have not have gotten in trouble for that. You know what I mean? Should not get in trouble for punch in the air. Which I don't know. I think in like say other sports, NASCAR, NFL, whatever, you flip someone off, you're gonna get a fine, I think, but not points or I don't I don't understand the whole license points.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

You like the now I like the the banter back and forth too. Yes. Now so far we've just had Deegan giving it, giving it, giving it, and Jet hasn't taken the bite. Now, the last three races, Jets won. Sorry, so the last two races. So now all of a sudden Deegan or Jet is playing into the Deegan thing, and then we get 11 play start. Somebody who's really good at whole shots. Like, do you think that Deegan's getting in his head? Do you think that this is that he's more worried about something different? He did still beat him, yep. But like, do you think that that these little games that he's now he's leading in or playing into, do you think that's messing with his his racing?

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I don't think 2-2's bad. No, I don't think that's bad at all. Yeah, I do have I do like how Jet has not said his name.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 46:59

In all the interviews, the post-race interviews, he they asked, you know, Hayden did this to you or whatever at Fox. He wore the short shirt or whatever. Someone asked. Yeah, what's his name? Yeah, I don't know. He does not said, or they said, Oh, Hayden did this. You know, I just like I'm focusing on myself.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Yeah, he wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

I like that. Yeah, I like that. But like it's like but to his face, yeah, F you dude. I like that. And how how big of an idiot if you're Hayden, if you're talking all the smack and you have not beaten the guy.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

I cannot stand the the comparison. Oh, Jets do or Hayden's doing amazing for this point in his career being a podium guy. Okay, you're comparing yourself to Jet. Jet went one-one every round his first year, and then and then they say in the comments, well, he doesn't have a lot of competition, or Hayden's beating the guys that Jet beat. What? What a stupid comparison!

SPEAKER_00 48:19

Yeah, and the problem with that though, because Hayden is doing great for a rookie, he's doing great, but he's already set the bar so high of beating Jet that it's like, dude, you're not even to me.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

It makes him look like a freaking idiot. But that that's just me.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

But dude, like, what would this racing be like without Deegan? Like, how fun is it?

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Which brings us to a uh uh a listener question how boring would outdoor season be without Deegan Smack Talk? I mean, it's obviously got us talking about it, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

And he's the only one doing it, and maybe it is ruffling Jet's feathers a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

It would be boring watching Jet go one one, yeah, Hunter go one one.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

Yeah. Yeah, no, he's making it fun. He's an idiot. He makes it fun, but yeah, I'm I'm glad that I can go buy a Deegan shirt, but like it's cool.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Yeah, no, I I don't want to support the guy at all.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

But don't worry, all the other millions will do it. Support him.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

I like how uh he ride like Hayden rides a w a wide bike last year or last week, and then Hunter just putts him out of the line. Yeah, yeah, like dude, yeah, you're not making yourself any friends, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

No, which will be interesting when that comes back to bite him because I'm sure it will.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

And I think, like, dude, you're not gonna be any better in Supercross next year, and that's really when it's tight. Yeah, uh, it it'll be interesting. Really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Yeah, yeah. Gotta love it. Yeah. So Hunter went 1-1.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

Which by a lot.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Yeah. He was on it.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

I I almost forgot he was racing. It was like, and Hunter wins and shows him off. Oh, yeah. We didn't watch him at all. Uh, he did really good. Now, do you think he do you think he can No, you you said no. You said you have Jet for the championship. I have Hunter. Do you think do you think Hunter can No? You still think Jet just rises to the occasion and beats him?

SPEAKER_00 50:26

Yeah, I mean that the start didn't help him on moto one, right? He got the 11th place start, and then he got all the way up through fairly quick, and then he didn't close the gap on Hunter. In fact, I don't know if he just like blew his wad and didn't didn't have anything left to grab to catch him, or if he's like, ah, I'll catch him next moto, and then didn't.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

But I think I think that first moto, I think he thought, oh, I'll get the win next moto. I'll get you next motor. And it kind of bit him.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

But I do like somebody besides Jet's great. Do you like Hunter over Jet, or do you prefer one or the other? Do you does it matter?

SPEAKER_02 51:00

Right now, I like Hunter over Jet just because he hasn't got one.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:04

So I want him to get one.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Just because I I know as a as a big brother, like, dude, if my little brother's kicking my ass all the time.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Every weekend.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

I want to get one.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Well, you better go faster.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Yeah, no, absolutely. And then old Georgie went 3-5 for fourth, which we didn't. Did we watch him a lot on TV?

SPEAKER_00 51:31

No, I didn't see a whole lot of him.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

He wasn't really there. I don't know. He just is that where he's at? Four to four to six guy? I maybe the track just wasn't quite why did he have such a good opening round and then now we're at Well, because he spends a million laughs on Paula. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

I mean, maybe that's what it was. But I don't know. He was pretty irrelevant. How frustrated. I thought that he was like the start king, too.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

Like, and we have not seen a whole shot.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

I don't know. Did you really have yeah, I got Hunter for the championship? Oh, you do, you're right. Hunter, you and Justin. Everyone else, Chet. That's funny.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Now, when I said that, did I believe it? Not really. You know what I mean? Like deep down.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

Yeah. So the but the KTM boys, I mean, right behind him was AP. We saw AP a little bit on the screen, and he was ripping. Yeah. He was looking really good. It's like, oh, oh, okay. Well, hello again. Like, is that because we're got to get his value up for the contract for next year from trial? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

I think that's a done deal.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

Like, he was ripping.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

Just didn't feel sick that day. I guess.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Yes. Yeah, 6'4. Good for him. And then March Banks, yeah, 5'6. Dude, in that last moto, I thought that March Banks was gonna pass Jorge. Yeah, I thought it was like the B guy on the cow. He passes him. Didn't happen. Right. See here.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

Which funny. Did they talk about him being a big guy and he's like 170 pounds?

SPEAKER_00 53:19

Yeah, not big. Yeah, dude. Okay, so when that first moto when Jet was going through the pack, you could see his name hopping up on the side sheet, but like we never put the camera on him. Pretty annoyed by that. It's like the two boxes, no nothing. Just like, oh yeah. Just the one dude making passes. No, we're not watching. We're watching the guys out front just putt around. Kind of annoying. Jet went 11 to second and 10 minutes. So I mean he was making it.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Okay, so you would have rather at least had the split screen at that point?

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Yeah, at least somewhere so jet. Yeah. Okay, dude.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

I you're still no split screen ever.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

No other motorsport does that. No, no other sport does that. Like NFL doesn't do that. Hockey doesn't do that. NASCAR doesn't do that. It's it's just the whatever I'm watching, I'm watching.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Yeah. Like if I now I do think there's better ways to do it. You know, don't have all the blue, have the full screen, and then in the corner have something.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

But I think in NASCAR, when they do a replay, if they show a replay, they show the replay. And maybe if live is a tiny box in the corner, which you don't even look at.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

Yeah. Yeah. Not anyways. Dude, besides a few little things, the 450 class is kind of just meh. Yeah. I don't know. There wasn't a whole lot of flash. And I mean, Harup did great. RJ Smith, I mean, some of the things.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

Oh, Cooper Webb looked good in that second moto until his bike blew up right now.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

Yeah, he had a mechanical, whatever it was, dang it.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Which every time he gets a start, I'm like, all right, when's he gonna quit? And then like the third corner.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Yep, there it's yeah, it doesn't take long. Yeah, he had a great start. Yeah, he's a good jump, and then instantly passed.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

The reason is I heard that his his like mechanic or someone is like, yeah, I'll pay you 100 bucks to get the whole shot. It's okay. So that's why he's got two whole shots this year. Watch this.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Hey, don't worry, dude. Our our boy Benny on the beta got 16th. Dude, with a 38-10.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

That's a weird, that's a weird score. 10th, dude. We're top 10 in a moto. Dude, the beta's coming around. Did you see the beta 250? It came out.

unknown 55:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

So, yeah, you've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 55:51

Yeah, it's stupid.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Yeah, so like Honda's going.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

What are we doing with our with our pl? Let's let's make as minimal plastics so we burn ourselves on all the engine components, and then let's do black and red, but just make it look like dog shit.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

How dare you? Honda stole blue, so they can't do blue. Why can't we just keep one color on all the all the pretty bad?

SPEAKER_02 56:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 56:19

You didn't like when like KTM would did orange and and purple. You don't like that?

SPEAKER_02 56:24

No, I when they did it. Yeah, yeah. The the hints of purple, it wasn't all a whole fender.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

You know what I mean? Like it was in the graphics. Yeah, little, little, little, yeah. I liked a little bit of purple. Yeah. But not a whole damn fender, a whole and then beta. What are we got all kinds of crap? We got a white, we got a clear tank, blue fender, red, plat. I don't know. Yeah, it's the whole pipe. Let's make the the number as tiny as possible so you can't see. And then just, you know, if you lean back, you're gonna burn your legs.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

And then let's be Justin Eberling and put your yellow backgrounds so we have every color.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

Well, that's me. That's my fault.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

That's your fault?

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yeah. Why? I bullied him into doing two laps. I'm like, dude, if you're gonna race, you gotta do the whole race.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

You can't yeah, but like, dude, just get a pie plate for the weekend. Don't put yellow on your bike on purpose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

And then I the whole okay. What was his argument the other day in the damn text? Like, well, it doesn't ride like a it right or uh the husk varner rides more like a 450. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the point, which is the the power is way smoother, it's way better, you can go faster, it's less energy to ride, it's a lot more fun to ride.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

Yeah, you know, he's a little bit like Deegan.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

He is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

It's like just enough that we're talking about him, but like and pisses you off, dude. Just like I don't want to be a part of any of that, yeah. But like we could talk about it. Love you, Justin.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

We gotta at least give a shout out to Rodbell, 17-17 for 18th. Dude, we got a point or two, Cornelius Tondell, Tondel from Norway, Tondell, Tondel, dude, and like Cornelius, he went 1238. Like, if we would have had a better second moto, we could have got some real points, like, and same with Grant Harlan. We got 40th, 16 for 20th. It's like, holy cow, guys, just clean Dylan Fernandes 1140. Whoa, it's like Christian Craig 39-9. Like, what are these huge swings?

SPEAKER_02 58:39

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Silly.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

But yeah, super silly. What's our our fantasy there?

SPEAKER_00 58:46

In the 450, yeah. In the 450, survival. We forgot to announce it last week, but we did it. The survivor.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

You need a pen.

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Yeah, it's it on that thing over there. So last week after the pod, I picked Jorge and Ori picked RJ. Oh J Yeah, Ori was high on RJ for some reason. Luckily for Ori, RJ got eighth. I don't know if I ever saw him on screen or anything, but this week he ran out. I would have known that bland gear, you know. Yeah. But and then I had Jorge and he got fourth. Like we know, so we both got a point. You're still leading. I got E.T. Paula, screwed me. Perfect. And you're clean so far. So who you got this week? What is this week? Do we have a race this weekend? I think it's an off weekend. I think it's an off weekend.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

Perfect, because I'm gonna be racing. Well, the boys are gonna be racing up at the Juab race. I won't be around. So the next one.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

So which I would have to qualify for the night show. I was like, dude, I'll just get off work, bomb up there.

SPEAKER_00 59:51

I'll get you into the night show. You race tonight. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

Sounds miserable.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

So, yeah, let's go ahead and predict for Red Bud. Red Bud. Give me Garrett, dude. That's a that's uh Yeah. Like America boy. America. Okay. Because really, oh I guess A P B and the way Garrett's riding. Team Team USA, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

No, what? No. Look at we got our top 10, dude. We got Hunter, Australian, Jet, Australian, Deegan, which he maybe he rides, but maybe he doesn't. Jorge, Spain. AP, which AP, I guess he would do it if you asked him, but I don't see him consistent. Then Garrett. So we got Deegan, AP, Garrett, our top three Americans. And that's third, fourth, sorry, third, fifth, and sixth.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Dude, I know that I probably put RJ in there before Garrett.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:56

Yeah. But I I think, yeah, you're right. But I I don't think Kawasaki does a MXOM too.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

True. Yeah, there's some logistics there. Damn. Dang. But I don't know. He seemed like a yeah, I think that he'd be into it. Good old American boy. Where's our points? Dude, I'm gonna be bummed with freaking red bud is just the whole podium is non-Americans. Yeah. You think Deegan could win it? No. Just like the extra hype, just the just no. Dang it. No. Me neither. Yeah. It's funny because I don't even think about that on any other weekend. No. It's just like, yeah, uh, yeah, the Lawrence was won. No, sweet, whatever. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

I don't know if you're into soccer, but I think America plays Britain for the World Cup that day on July 4th. Oh, really? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. On America's 250. So we have we have to beat them if we do not.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

That's funny. Anything else on the four fitties?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:11

I'm trying to look up points here. I want to see. I want to see who is higher.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:19

RJ or oh, on the overall the points?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

Yeah, RJ's in fifth, Garrett's in sixth.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:24

See?

unknown 1:02:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:26

Yes, no, but you're not far off, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Yeah, Hunter.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

I don't think that RJ will go because he's switching teams and he's got way more crap going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Dude, it's gonna be Hayden, Garrett, and a 250 rider. Which I would have guessed guessed. Dude, no, no. But now he's hurt.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:45

It can't be March Spain'cause because what's his face? Cooper, Justin Cooper. He just got a concussion. He'll be back next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Yeah, I thought I was.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

And he would smoke him.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Yeah, but who's who's Team America this year? We're getting waxed.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Yeah, this isn't good. No. But which we need to go because it sounds like the Lawrences aren't racing.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:13

So that's who we lost to last time. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

It's weird thinking Tomac's not gonna be on the team. Like maybe he will. I don't know. Do you think he'll be back in time?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:28

No. Okay, did you see? I saw a clip of him riding the other day, and he's like, Oh, I love a fet a fresh track. I don't know if it was an old clip or what, but I was like, he was racing riding like a supercross. And he was ripping. Aren't you hurt? I don't know. My jeez.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

He's gonna have another kid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:52

Cool. But are we racing?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:55

I don't know. He's putting in motos, just not on the bike.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

Yeah. Not on the not on the KTM. Okay, so did you see that Kyroley's gonna come race three races in July? Yes. Is that exciting? Yes. Or is he irrelevant?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

No, I I I like it. I never I don't watch Moto GP, but yeah, when I watched him last year, I was like, oh yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

And he and he's dude, he's yeah, he's not a Prado. So like you hear hear how good he was over there, and then to see him come over here, and he's not the interviews that I've listened to with him, he's not super arrogant. He's excited to be here. Yeah, which yeah. And it was cool to see last year, no one was racing the the Ducati, and he did really well in Red Bull, but he got a good start, and then the the bike broke.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:48

Yes, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

And then I still think he finished top 10, maybe top 15. But dude's 40 something years old and still just getting after it. Old, yeah, yeah, got that weird ass teeth. He's just killing it. Got a hobby. The teeth are unique, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:09

Yes, yes, yes. But no, he he's I like him. Yeah, that should be fun. And then the Kunan boys got a couple more, so that yeah, that'll be sweet. One more thing, complaint on the track. I forget, I should have brought this up earlier, but dude, and this is every year, it's the same. It's there's several tracks, but like the finish line needs to be a freaking booter, yeah. Not this little thing they roll around the inside, and then they're like, Oh, yeah, they throw their hand up while they're on the ground still. Like, that's dumb.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:41

For sure. Okay, that track looked hard to race or ride in general, it looked like really slippery, like the top seemed like fluff, and then you could see the shiny spots in the ruts where it looked slick, yeah, and then it started to rain halfway through a moto. That seemed miserable.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

Yeah, back to MXON really quick. Sorry, we're jumping all over.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Yeah, we're random this.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Do you do you have any desire to go to MXON like overseas?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

My my wallet doesn't. But you're you're floating the bill, sure, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:16

I don't I don't really have a big desire to go, but it would have to be when we're like 60 and like have nothing else to do. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

I think I think, yeah, when the when we don't have to worry about the kids and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and we'd take the wives and or maybe not that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:32

Well, I mean, but like we're gonna go all the way back there. Yeah, I'm gonna we can go race, they can go shop, and then we'll see them the next day or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

Yeah, no, uh like it'd be cool. I'd rather I want to do the old man tour kind of deal. I want to go see World War II stuff, you know what I mean. I want to see where the bunker that Hitler shot himself in, you know what I mean? That's a blood splatter.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:54

Anyways, that's the that's uh sweet. Never even thought of that once in my whole life.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:59

No, really, no, like like I kind of want to go to I want to go to Germany and see like all the Holocaust stuff. Like, dude, it's it's fascinating to me that someone could do that to another human being. I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:12

It's insane, dude. What is wrong with you? Yeah, yeah, that's about all the moto talk I have, bro. All the notes.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

So you've brought this up over the week. Do do we start over and do a non-modo podcast?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:31

Yeah, yeah. I think we so for those of you listening.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

Give the guys yeah, a little something else in the we got we got normally we that first hour we talk about motocross, and the second hour we do non-modo. So we'll release a podcast a little later in the week. A little goon garage for you, not TGP, but something else. So thanks for listening to True Goon Podcast. We'll listen check in later for the week for some uh non moto TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Please.