True Goon Podcast

TGP- Unadilla, Lorettas, Vegas to Reno

Orey Woods, and Will Sheldon.

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Cold Open And Catching Up

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Welcome to the True Goon podcast with your host Ori Woods and Will Sheldon.

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Oh, did you think of all the things that you're gonna go and both buy a WR, you idiot like her up.

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Alright. And she's like, no. No. He is 177. Our family 177. Yo, welcome back to the True Goon podcast. Ori William back in the man cave. Take two. We just we just like did 10 seconds and then it went away, and here we are. Here we are back. Hopefully we get longer in 10 seconds. You know, I think the first time was 45. And sometimes that's I mean. And I gotta I I said, I'm sorry, and she may have said it's okay. You know, and uh a good little pat on the back. Thank you, uh the Groulets for your upstairs moving on, dude.

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Is that white monster not just hitting right now? It is, yeah, it is. Thank you. All right, yeah, go through phases right now. We're on the white monster kick, dude.

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I yeah, I don't know why, but the the can the can is popping. Yeah, dude. So it's been a week or two. Lots of stuff has happened. Yeah, I got yelled at last week by several people. Yeah, I'm not not just dad this time. Yeah, so I'm glad the people like it.

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Yeah, I'm glad the people get fired up. They have your number, not mine. So this is all good for me. Like, I yeah. I mean, it was still only two people, but it was double the amount of your dad and Tristan.

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Oh no, no, Austin.

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Oh, nice. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, dude. So this last week I've been struggling though to find some good material to listen to. So I understand the frustration because old Pulp didn't put out much this week. And it's like, dude, I am bored. Like, where's the stuff? So I get the frustration.

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Yeah, and then you sent us one with uh the the the British dude. I listened to it and I kind of was like, Yeah, what are we talking about?

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Yeah, they just are argued and argued and argued.

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I mean, that's the whole point of the show is them to argue, yeah.

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But but move on, yeah. Anyways, I can't remember which one that was, dude. So we've had Loretta's. Yeah, I want to talk about that. We've had WSX, want to talk a little bit about that, and then we just had Dilla. Unadilla. Cesadilla. And dude, we

Loretta Lynn’s Track And Takeaways

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got a lot to go through. So let's start with Lorettas. Oh, a little bit of Vegas Torino talk too. Oh shit. Man, there's a lot going on. All right, let's just try to Did you watch it? Did you watch Lorettas? Like I caught some motos. I didn't like sit there and watch every day. No. And even the ones I did watch weren't the full, it was like the Matt Burkeen ones where he's just kind of, you know, clearly.

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So you think it wasn't like the broadcast?

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No, it wasn't the broadcast. Uh uh.

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We'll start with I I like you went up, down, down a little bit.

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Down, down, down.

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Well, it's grandma. Grandma grandma was over there. She was, yeah. What did you think on the Matt Burke? I don't know how to say his name. Can't you kind of get like a level view because he's on the track.

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Yeah, yep.

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But what did you think of the track?

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It wasn't as ruddy as I have it pictured in my head. I don't know if I've like in the past seen it differently, or it just you hear about the Loretta ruts. It wasn't as bad as I thought it could be, but I hear that it was really technical, but it looked it looked pretty fun.

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Kiefer kept talking about how like it was the best track he's ever ridden and everything. From the bot broadcast view, it looked miserable to ride.

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Oh, really? Like because of the ruts, or just because of the ruts, but I guess they're not as bad as they've been.

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But just like the overview of everything looked like I don't want to ride that. But there was some very good racing, a lot of back and forths. For whatever reason, that track is really flat, and then it's really wide. So you you would have like a leader going to the outside, but then if someone else wanted to go to the inside, it's almost like they would catch up, but the rut was so big and it was a lot of back and forth. It was fun to watch.

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Yeah, that's awesome. I we watched a lot of the 65 races. We're trying to find our little buddy Luke Witt and see how he was doing, and we never got any TV time on him, but we saw the motos that he was in, and and just for Luke to be able to see, like, dude, this is how a 65 is supposed to be written. Like, whoa! And so that's kind of what we were, and within, of course, you know, it goes in a couple of the super minis, and then I wanted to watch some of the 50 class because I've been watching listening to Kiefer's podcast and him and Darkseid talking about yeah, the aftermath and whatever, and so it was wanted to watch some of that.

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And does it make you want to try to do that?

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I want to try it.

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I don't think I could ever qualify, dude.

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Over 50 class, did you watch any of those over 50 classes?

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Yeah, they're still ripping, dude.

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They're oh yeah. Oh no, I thought they were going pretty slow, dude.

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They're like lapping people, like, dude. Well, there's some times that people were like it in a lot of classes, they look slow. Yeah, like the pro sport class, you have like Zacko going crazy, and then fifth on looks slow just because the ruts, I think. I'm yeah, I'm not sure. Just watching on TV, yeah, and they're not going slow.

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I I feel like the older we get, the better the chances for us to get it.

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I mean, I feel I I don't know dark side, but I feel like just the way he talks, I'm like, I'm better than you. I mean, also he's 50.

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So yeah, there is that.

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But dude, it like, yeah, it it uh I I will say, dude, I've been passed by some 50-year-olds out in the desert.

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Yes, beats me off.

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Yeah, freaking Kyle Pulsifer. Like, every time that dude beats me, like, why am I doing it? Yeah, why do I even try?

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Do you think that like right now, say like you had the time, you don't have anything else going besides work? Like, do you think that you could do what needs to happen for next year and and I would go do an L area and then go?

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I would I would like to, but I am I am not a trap guy. Yeah, I could I I would really like to. Every year when I watch, I'm like, man, that'd be fun to that's a goal. I you know, I like goals and I want to try to get that.

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Yeah.

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Maybe, but what class do I ride?

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Yeah.

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There's you know, over 30 class, over 36. Brandon Haas, the guy, the owner of the club. He's racing Phil for third second in the pro sport class.

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And then he's over here, yeah.

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Yeah, riding that other car. No way. Yeah. But I guess qualifying, and then like the guys that are there, it's probably a lot different, I would think. Maybe. Yeah, probably.

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Yeah.

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I guess the two classes that maybe we'd have a chance, maybe I guess. Over 30, there's a lot of fast over 30 dudes.

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Oh, yeah. They're not quite old enough, and yeah.

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And maybe I think what's the next easiest class that's not an age? 450C.

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But that's the one that isn't that the one that Max barely got in.

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Yeah, and Max would lapse in.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, that dream's off the table, clearly we ain't making it.

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Well, no, dude. I say we I say we just go to the mesquite one.

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Yeah, just to see where we're at.

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Just to see where we're at. Like what no I mean, I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just send it. Yikes. Desert tank and all. There was an 85 out there with a desert tank. Really? Yeah. Wow. The kid races GNCC. I forgot the name. Oh, nice. I was stoked on that kid. I mean, it was top five.

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Was it a KTM?

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I think so, yeah.

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Go figure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. The Lorettas was fun. It was cool to watch. I like how like I don't know. It seems like such a big deal. But like, is it?

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I don't know. I think it is to amateurs that don't plan on going pro.

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Yeah, there you go.

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It would be a big deal for you and I.

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Oh, for sure.

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If we got there, that was hard. Just to get there and finish last.

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Or it would be second or whatever. Dude, it just looked like a good time.

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Like, even like what I saw from like the pits and out in the river, and like just would you pit there or would you get like an air baby?

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I feel like I would do it pit there.

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I need to be in it.

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You gotta the full experience. Now, if you made it several years in a row or several years, then okay, maybe you want to go away from the curry, but like you gotta be part, like dude. Imagine the boys, they would freaking out the time of their lives. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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No, that that would be and then just playing the the river or the creek or whatever all day.

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Yep. Yeah. That would be wild. That'd be pretty crazy. They'll go for one class, one kid. Dude, that's a lot of hanging out.

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What is it, 1500 bucks just for like camping or something like that?

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I'm sure it's out of control. Yeah.

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Man.

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Yeah. You gotta buy it right now for next year, I'm sure. You know.

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Oh, you think, yeah, probably.

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I'm sure it's right crazy. But yeah. Well, nothing too crazy happened.

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I mean if you qualify, I'll give you 500 bucks.

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Wow.

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That's it. That's all I got. That's my life savings there.

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Ori gave Will everything he had to go.

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Everything literally. That's from the credit card.

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Alright, since we're talking about us racing.

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Oh, sorry.

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Let's no, no, that's good. Yeah. Let's just

Vegas To Reno Dreaming And Doubts

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this little segue right into Okay. Okay. Ori texted me there today and he's like, bruh, 2027 Vegas Durino. We should do it.

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No, okay. Yeah. Because when St. John and Denny were our age, yeah, they raced the over 30 pro class. Like two best friends racing a class together.

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So much faster than us.

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I know, but that's sick. Yeah, no, that is the over 30 pro class. I'm like, man. And now I looked at the results, like overall, they didn't have much competition. I think they're like the only ones in the class. However, however, they won. That does not matter. And dude, they got sponsors. They they like went around businesses. I mean, oh really? Yeah. And that's when that's before Jason was loaded.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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So he like got yeah, sponsors and they they built the bike together and did all the cool stuff and planned it out. And then Jason, I think, Iron Man did once too. Jeez, dude. Now I am with you on I don't want to go fast in a straight line. I don't really like that.

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No, let's just go to finish. I don't want to build a bike that does 110, 112. Yeah. I'm not gonna make it go there. I don't have what it takes anymore.

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Okay, but okay. Whatever. So here's my argument to that.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yes, I would like to go and go finish.

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Yep.

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However, say we go and we finish, and we we knew we didn't put it all out there. Would you feel good with yourself? Like, hey, maybe we could have won. Our class.

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No, I'm good with just finishing. I think I'd be okay with that. You don't we lived. I can go to work tomorrow.

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You don't think that say you're starting, it's 5 30 in the morning, whatever, and you got your helmet on and you're on the starting line. It's nice and cold. Yeah. And you hear the you hear the bikes, you smell like race fuel. You're just in the environment. And as soon as that green flag flies, you're not gonna black out.

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Dude, fifth gear pinned to the first rock I see, dude.

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The first roller, and then there's a cow.

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No, I feel like in a race like that, and like this, but you know, there's more, and we could easily talk to Damon or somebody about it, but there's gotta be more to it, right? It's like the this the strategy of of you know what you're gonna do and how and when and when to push and when to you know settle and what the bike's like and all the different things. So I think it would be really cool on a lot of different aspects. And to get somebody to chase us, that's a whole different thing. And we got what parts to oh no, for sure. Yeah, like what parts to have on the the truck and you know, all the things, it would be pretty cool. Now, I tried to get you to do it on a Yamaha 700.

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I dumb out. I I started looking up the stuff, like they look cool, but then I looked up how much they weigh. It's like 500 pounds.

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And no, no, 450, dude. Dry, dry weight. So yeah, you get that thing hits a kicker, we're done. Dude, that's gonna hurt. But yeah, you just do a 450x.

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I guess. Yeah, I don't know, FX or whatever. Did you just buy a clapped out race bike and run it? And then have Damon built it, or uh, I don't know.

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Yeah.

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No, I'll get it, I'll get a new bike and you can beat the shit out of it. It's fine. Okay, that's fine. Thanks. Stamp it, I said it. Perfect.

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So it hey, okay, and then going back to our conversation with everyone. I

The Group Bike Plan Implodes

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got kicked out of the group pretty quick, dude. Pretty quick.

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So the you guys know the Cowie 327.

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I was all down. I was ready for a day.

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I thought it was a good idea. I was gonna put a down payment on this thing.

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I was all vetted.

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So I come up with the idea. I'm like, yeah, guys, there's five of us in this group. Let's all let's all go in and buy this thing.

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Payment once every five months. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We you yeah, pay once every five, and then in five years we'll sell it. Or like get rid of it, whatever. Or even before then, get rid of it. And because I'm only gonna want to ride it once or twice a year, you know what I mean? And I was like, dude, we'll keep it everling's house, he'll keep it, you know, nice, you know, whatever. No, dude, everybody was like kick kick kick or no.

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I asked one question.

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Yeah, what was that? Can I race it?

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Right.

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Why'd you go straight to go trash it? Because that's what they hear when you say that. Race equals destroy destruction. In Everling's eyes, it is. Yeah. Dude, did you see he scratched his bike? Almost totally.

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Oh, he did it?

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No, I did not. The fork, fork uh got a little scuff on it.

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Oh well. Uh I forgot what I was saying.

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Sorry. So nobody wants to go freaking five ways and on a motorcycle. Ridiculous. Yeah.

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I don't know.

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But I think. Have you ever done a point-to-point race? No. I've done a few, like a a Heron Hound and a couple Moran races that are point-to-point. A lot more fun. Totally. Yeah.

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I feel like the where I get nervous in the desert is like the the unknown, or like the rock that you don't see in that kind of stuff. But I feel like in this kind of a race, it's all two-track, at least, right? There's no single trail and stuff. And you can pre-run it.

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Yeah, but there's gonna be it's gonna be poof dust, and you're gonna hit a rock in the poof dust. Get your car sold.

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No, sorry. Damon's texting me saying I'm an idiot for how low I'm selling it for.

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Oh. Yeah, well, I I thought so too. I'm not an idiot. I was like, oh, I'll buy it. So if anyone's listening, I doubt it's gonna be sold before this podcast is up. It's up. But William's selling his car for two grand.

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It's got a quarter million miles on it.

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Clean, one owner.

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Yep. Beat the crap.

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Oh, speaking of Damon and beating the crap, I beat the crap out of Damon. Why would you do that?

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I don't know. I was He's a nice guy. I was inebriated. Okay,

Lightning Fire And Running Toward Chaos

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so there was a fire the other day.

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There was.

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Yeah.

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No firemen.

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No firemen came to save. No. What? Did it just lightning strike? Yeah.

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That's me and Deshu are sitting outside and we're in the back porch, and it was Friday, and lightning strikes right over the hill at Damon's house. Essentially, his neighbor's palm tree gets hit, caught on fire. And I'm like, Well, let's go check it out. And then yeah, I was on fire, and I guess McCall called Damon, and and David was like, No, you're fine. That at least that's what McCall said. That's awesome.

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And yeah. Okay, so lightning storm, it hits within a half mile of your house. Your first thought, dude, let's get on the four-wheeler and go drive around.

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Hell yeah.

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You never thought, like, dude, the lighting's gonna hit me when I go up and over this hill, like nothing, no, no concern. Your own safety or your safety. I run towards the danger, sir.

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I'm trained to take my child and run towards the danger on the on the squad. Wow. Actually, when I got over there, they had their little hose out. And I'm like, oh, it's not terrible. Yeah. And I'm like, all right, do I call someone? I'm like, no, it's not my. It'll be all right. Yeah. And then three minutes later, wee wee, wee. I'm like, oh my god. I'm pretty sure they're it's out, but okay.

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Those volunteers need something to do. Yeah. All right, that was a little bit of a sorry, sorry, Dad. No, you're good. So what in your mind, what is the the you know, the percentage pie of Vegas Torino, you and me, actually happening.

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If you committed, I'm 100% in.

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Okay, so we're solid.

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It's 50-50 right now. Yeah. I did ride my dirt bike today. Whoa, whoa. Yeah. Wow. Death has been bugging me because it's rain. Yeah. I want to ride, I want to ride. So he broke out the 6 65 and he's like, Dad, I want you to ride your bike. I'm like, okay, I can't just ride around the house, so yeah, we gotta go somewhere.

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Yeah.

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So we went out back by Nathan's up the hill. He got stuck, man yelling at him, like, dude, you gotta freaking shift down. And then we rode out to the reservoir, and he's not going through the ruts. And uh, he's too deep. I'm like, no, they're not. And so we did the turn track and then we came home and it was good, it was fun. But just riding the dirt bike was like, Oh, I I like this. Oh, this is fun. I like dirt bikes, yeah, yeah, nice, but then now I'm good.

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Yeah, all right. My back or that it's been scratched. Where are we?

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I mean, I don't I I didn't get geared up, I was work boots, shorts. You weren't wearing those sandals, right? No, no, no, and a helmet. I had goggles, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was serious. I put goggles on.

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Okay, this this next question right here may make or break this Vegas Arena thing.

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Okay.

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All right, if we're gonna do it, we're gonna be a team. We gotta get the same gear.

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Oh no, that's fine.

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And I'm gonna pick it.

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Dude, okay, okay. We can't have just black gear in the middle of August in the Nevada desert, dude. It's gonna be hot. I don't care how ventilated it is. Also, what what when we're sucking and the trophy trucks are coming to get us? We need to have something bright so they don't run our ass over.

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You do have a point. All right, we can we can discuss the happy meeting. We can discuss the black pants, pink shirt, got it done.

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I do need to get new boots, though, because I I like my boots, but they're what are those Garnets are at least 600 bucks.

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Oh, yeah, I don't know.

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And then I have the bright neon green ones. I need like white or black.

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Yeah, so it'll get a big thing. It goes with anything, yeah.

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Do they require a Schnell helmet like the mint? Probably. I hope not. That's stupid.

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We'll have to get a couple like Danny and the get a couple sponsors, kit us out. Boom.

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What did when you were doing the night series? What did Twisted G put up? You just oh, just graphics.

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Dude, I think he sent a banner in those t-shirts.

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Solid.

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Yeah.

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And then you paid for your own graphics.

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I'm sure.

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Yeah. It's hard for me to ask. Me too.

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Yeah, it's just hard for me to ask.

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I'm sure this isn't gonna help you out at all, but hey, could I get some stuff? It's uh right off, right? Just something. I guess I don't I don't know. Yeah. Well what we'll have to find some. All right. Dude, maybe just a full circle, we'll can get some SO, you know, Jason's company to sponsor some just in lieu of just this. I like their name. I've been thinking what number did they run? Oh, I think it was like a one hundred, or did they give it to him?

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No, I think they're like pros are like like a zero something.

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Oh, okay.

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I think he was like 09p or something. I could be wrong.

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That'd be cool. Whatever number it was, same number.

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Yeah, I think they gave him a number.

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Yeah. I'll put Denny on my back.

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Falls or Denny. Just Denny. I'll put Denny on my tram stamp. Dude, on the butt patch. On the butt patch for Denny.

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For Denny and St. John. Jason and D and J J D. Yeah, we'll figure something cool out. Anyway, all right, alright. Alright. Alright. Enough binge racing. That's probably not ever gonna happen.

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Probably not.

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Yeah, dude.

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I just but I like I told you on the text the other day, like I wanna I wanna do fun races. I'm good with like I've done plenty of just hard ass desert racing, like just Moran, I guess, and Heron Hound once in a while. But like fun races are it would be fun to go chase the work series with the kids. Yeah, yeah, and then like maybe we run over 30 C and Yeah, just yeah have fun. Yeah.

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If we did some if we're back to the scene of the story, we're trying to move on, but if we did this, if we did, would that give you some motivation to like work out and stuff? Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah.

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Well, because then because then you would have to like because it's not just about me.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, it it's we're where it's a team effort, and you I think we'd hold each other accountable, more so you holding me. Hey, fat ass, you gotta go do something today. I don't care that it's hot.

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Yeah. It could be really good.

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It could be.

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Did you like those videos of people weeding I keep sending you?

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I don't check them. I'm like, this could be us at Vegas Torino.

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And the view just unloads like fifth gear. Yeah, yeah. Could be us.

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Yeah. I check my Instagram matches like once a week.

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I just let them pile up and there's like yeah, that could be us.

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But think about it, dude. The the the but and then as soon as I go down, I'm gonna be like, why? Why did I do this? Right.

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That's 70 miles an hour, yeah. Carwheeling, yeah.

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Why? Yeah, but what a way to go out.

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But what a way!

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Right when I was younger, I always thought to myself, man, when I die, I want it to be epic. Right? You know what I mean? Like, I wanted to be cool. Yeah, now I'm like, no, maybe no, I got bills to pay. I can't die yet. I gotta pay off my house or something.

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Get life insurance, you're all right.

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Not very much, but sure. Enough to, you know, just cover that funeral and sorry, Lisa, we'll figure it out. I mean Oh, really? I don't know.

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I'm sure I'm sure I got the mine, doesn't have like a decent policy.

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Well, in the line of at work, yeah.

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In the loader, yeah.

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Yeah, in the loader.

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But all right, let's talk some WSX, dude. Okay,

WSX Round One Track And Broadcast

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sorry, no, correct.

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We we look Lorettas, we kind of went off of that. Oh, you're right. So you watched a lot of 65s. Did you wat did you watch Zach's and Phil's and Weimer's race? Yeah, yeah. Do you the question's been going around? Like, people are mad that the pros are back. Does do you care? No, that's awesome. I think I think it's awesome too.

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You know why it's awesome? Why? I'm gonna save it for later. Oh, okay. Because yeah, Zacko might have been a pro, but what do you think is gonna happen if he goes races against the pros right now?

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He'll be he'll be really good.

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Uh yeah. Uh yeah, we'll talk about that later.

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Yeah, we'll get to that one.

SPEAKER_01

We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_04

But I thought it was cool to see Phil and Weimer up there.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, for sure. And then uh, anyways, but and we've seen lots of people do this. I mean, Brownie's done this, lots of, I mean, yeah. And I think it's dude, if you're fast enough and that's what you I it's not like they're making money. Well, I guess the TV did did pay out a little bit this year.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, I think the most two grand on something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know, but whatever. It's not like it's it's I mean, essentially it's all just for dude, especially in those older classes, like they're not getting a ride.

SPEAKER_04

Also, for everyone that's complaining about flow and paying the $40, well worth the money. Like the coverage, the angles, no split screens. Whoa, amazing.

SPEAKER_01

And you felt like you got enough of the action though.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. And they they covered through the field a little bit. More so cool, more so the front, obviously. But yeah, that's for the reason. Once in a while, they would go go back to the field, and yeah, dude, I thought it was great.

SPEAKER_01

That's awesome. Well, how's the the announcers, the talkers, the broadcasters?

SPEAKER_04

I thought that ke Kevin Wyndham Weij sometimes. Oh, he wasn't all the time.

SPEAKER_01

Cool.

SPEAKER_04

And then some random guys, and like, dude, they were it was it was less broadcasty and more me and you. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I I I really enjoyed it. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Awesome.

SPEAKER_04

That's all I got.

SPEAKER_01

So you you uh you bought the package, so you watched quite a bit of it?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, just I would have it on in the background while working.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Nice. That's cool. Um anybody that you're like, dude, this guy is the next guy.

SPEAKER_04

No, no. There was a something, I think Kay Johnson, he was the number two on a Cowie, young kid. The only reason I liked him is because in the the next program or futures, whatever it's called, he runs 177. So he was battling with Zacco. All right. Nice. So that's cool. There was in the 450C, a kid won, I think, the third moto on a 125. Whoa. Yeah. And he had a terrible start, obviously. Obviously, and went through the pack and won against 450s.

SPEAKER_01

He's ringing its neck right now.

SPEAKER_04

I thought that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

Did that make you want a 125? No. Oh.

SPEAKER_04

Not at all.

SPEAKER_01

Not at all, actually. That's wild. Nice. Anyways, there. All right. So some WSX. Are you excited? Like, did it like tickle? I don't care. Right? It was there wasn't an off weekend, and like I was like, okay. And dude, did you even how do you even watch it? Can you watch it live? I don't even know how you could have. I I no advertising. Me too.

SPEAKER_04

Only because you asked me, did you watch? I was like, oh well, I guess I could.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So it's so hard because you want to just compare it to AMA supercross, but it's not, right? You got to think of it as something different. It's a different thing. It's similar, but it's different.

SPEAKER_04

And man, I don't know if I I like it. I liked I enjoyed watching it. I I kind of liked the little the the quick, it's not or the triple crown format. You know, it's fast, and yeah, you need it, you need to go right now.

SPEAKER_01

Did you how do you feel about the track? It was a it looked kind of gnarly, but dusty and just dry, and but I think it made for some good racing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I thought it was it raced really well. It looks just sketchy because it's not the Dirk's works.

SPEAKER_01

It looks like a freaking track you'd push up at the res, it's been there for 20 years, and we're all just really big, yeah. And but again, like it wasn't quite like as sexy as like AMA supercross, but it raced really good, so it turned out good, you know.

SPEAKER_04

It kept me my attention to it because it wasn't cookie cutter, yeah. So I was I was I wanted to watch it because it's not something that we've you normally watch, and more so I'm I'm thinking to myself, dude, the track is just not to spec. Someone's gonna eat their brains out or wad their brains out because it's it maybe they think that's a five-footer and it's really like a six, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it uh yeah, like you said, erase good. Did you notice the stands? They look did they look back? No, dude, like half empty, dude. Like the the bottom was full, and then the just nothing at the top, and it wasn't even a very big venue, anyways. Like, oh man, I wonder how that went on the paycheck side of things, but whatever. And then the whole Stark barg thing, right? Everybody's freaking out because they got all the whole shots. Well, the fuel and the the the elevation to four I thought it was sick. But guess what? They didn't win any of them. And I liked that they it wasn't just like Webb getting the whole shot every time winning, yeah. Like, or or Justin Hill going, you know, it it there was had to be passing, you know, and in both classes, yes, yeah. And I yeah, I thought it was good. And it's gotta be a little weird racing against them though, like you can't hear them coming, you don't know really where they're at, and but yeah, I think it would be it would be harder if like say those guys were better riders and got a bad start and them coming through the field instead of them going backwards, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So yeah, that would that would be really weird. What did you think of Jason Anderson? He's the defending champ and he's just running white background 21.

SPEAKER_01

How do you feel like lame?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I thought it was.

SPEAKER_01

No, dude, put a number one on it, make it red. Yeah, but he's a head case and he can't but he can't handle that. But then he goes out with the 21 white background and rides like that. He rode horror, he sucked.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. He made a stupid mistake and went down.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, like irrelevant. You know who was pretty much the same. I mean, dude, him and Mike Alesi were at the same level, dude. Just totally irrelevant.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I forgot Mike even raced. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Anderson raced Mammoth a month or two ago.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

And got worked. Which, dude, you're you're on you should win that. I don't care if you're on a Suzuki or anything, you should probably win that. I don't know. Like, dude, you've won titles. Hang it up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Just now if I say that out tomac, we get all worked up, bro.

SPEAKER_01

You're right. We'll get to that. Yeah. So dude, Hill, I think. Did you say that you thought Hill was gonna be good? No, that was probably Justin. Yeah, Hill wrote really good.

SPEAKER_04

That first moto he was- He said that he was gonna do good because he was training motocross and he he then he was like, No, why don't I what am I doing? I I don't even like motocross, and then started training for this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No, he did yeah, he did really good. Webb did alright. I I expect a little bit more out of Webb, but that's okay. I mean, Craig fell over one of the motos. I mean it was kind of cool to have him talking about other people, but still it's just kinda like I don't know, it just doesn't have the star factor.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I I mean the only reason I tuned in was because there was nothing else going on. Yeah. But I don't know if I don't know if that you think that Siri's gonna like take over. No. Like just not at all. Did you hear that that super world or super whatever cross over this is, super motocross, that they're wanting to take it outside of the US?

SPEAKER_04

It's like No, I heard that was like they were bantering. I thought that was just shop talk.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think that was well, I think they there's been talks like that, but I don't see it happening. Well, yeah, I think I think it would be I heard a caller call into one of the shows or whatever saying, yeah, what if we did like outdoors over here, outdoors in Europe, and then for the playoffs they raced each other.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_04

That would be cool, and then you have a real world champion.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_04

But the problem was that is you have such different rules on bikes and everything.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

How would how would you enforce that? The two organizations would have to uh come together and merge, and it's it's money, and it's it would never happen. Dang it, it would be so sick.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. How do you like it? The the last round of the last 450 race, that gnarly windstorm that came in and was blowing tough blocks everywhere.

SPEAKER_04

I just saw clips. I just watched the first two, and that never Oh, did you never get to the no?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, dude, like gypsies like holding the tent down from while they're whoa the tough blocks are hitting people, and yeah, that was wild.

SPEAKER_04

So you brought up whatever his name, Gypsy Tales guy, Jace. Jace.

SPEAKER_01

Something or other.

SPEAKER_04

Your boy Daniel is in the booth. So did you listen to the broadcast?

SPEAKER_01

What's your I did, I did listen, and I was pretty critical, you know. So, first off, okay, they're not in a booth, they're down on a table on the side of the track or wherever they are. Which, all right, cool. But dude, the wandering eyes was driving me crazy. Like Daniel or Gypsy would be talking, and Blair would be like looking off camera, looking at it.

SPEAKER_04

Where did you see this? I I never saw any of this.

SPEAKER_01

Like on the on the playback from YouTube.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01

I you must did you watch individual motos, or did you just watch the whole three-hour thing?

SPEAKER_04

I watched individual motos. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

See, I watched like the whole three-hour thing. Oh. So in between every moto, they would talk and whatever. And like, dude, he's just like looking over here, but he's like, it's like, dude, look at the cameras. It was weird. And then they're wearing like casual clothes, like, which is cool. Like, you know, DB's got like a hoodie on, and then Gypsy's got this way oversized t-shirt on, which all right, that's your style. Like, that's your style, whatever. But then so like that's a little weird. It's like, oh, okay, all right, that's weird. Like, you just find these guys off the street, but okay, whatever. And then, plus Daniel's heart, but dude, we gotta get him a box or something to stand on because him and gypsies are so different in height. He's like, daddy, daddy, like it's it's it's too much of a difference, and it's like, that's awkward, dude. Like, I don't know. It was the comment, what they were saying was great, didn't bother me at all.

SPEAKER_04

I was very surprised how well Gypsy did. Yeah, uh like I don't really particularly like Enjoy his podcast because I mean, he's probably like me. People probably listen to me. Oh, yeah, the way he looks at you too. But anyways, but uh well his accent does it bother you? No, the way he like projects himself into the interviews, which oh yes, I know I know I do that sometimes.

SPEAKER_01

I thought you were gonna make fun of his accent. I was like, dude, that's what your freaking phone the whole time turned left or whatever.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, not the accent, but like the way his style of interviewing and then me, jujitsu, yeah, and it's like okay, relax, dude. Like he compares them, he compares himself to like the pro. Okay, you're not a pro.

SPEAKER_01

Like, dude.

SPEAKER_04

But on his, I don't know if he was like the play-by-play guy or whatever. I I thought he did really good. Yeah, I thought it was it was easy to listen to, and we're like, oh yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that the words didn't bother me, like yeah, like the other ones do.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, his accent didn't bother me or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01

It was well, especially because like dude, it's a world thing. Like, yeah, you're gonna have different accents. You're gonna I mean, yeah, you got people race now that don't even speak English, they don't even know what yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So it was better than Lee. And they're both Australian?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Well, isn't Lee is he Australian or British?

SPEAKER_04

No, I thought I thought he was maybe. I think British? I have no idea. I thought he was Australian.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I I'm 90% sure.

SPEAKER_01

Where's Lee Diffie from?

SPEAKER_04

Australia.

SPEAKER_01

Old Ham.

SPEAKER_04

That's kind of like. Where is Old Ham? Hold on. Lee Diffie announcer.

SPEAKER_01

England. Ah. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Dang it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, don't worry, guys. I I squared that away. Got that figured out. Yeah, no, it was it was fine. I this poor series though, they're trying to like work around the supercross, supermodocross, whatever, but it's like, dude, you have Okay, where did you look it up?

SPEAKER_04

Wikipedia says Australia.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, dude. Wikipedia. Maybe maybe there's different lead. Wait, hold on. What is his last name? Diffie D I Oh Diffy. Okay, yeah. Lee Diffie. Yeah. Wikipedia. Boom. That's a picture of him.

SPEAKER_03

Boom.

SPEAKER_01

From where now?

unknown

Australia.

SPEAKER_03

Australia.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, alright. Well, darn. I don't know. I just said it in the series. I didn't even search it, dude. I just made that up. Just kidding. But uh, yeah, we got what four, four how long we got? We got like eight eight weeks, like a big huge fat gap right now between races. Like that was round one, and then round two is in freaking six weeks or whatever. It's like, guys, if you're don't work around Super Motocross, if you're gonna do your thing, then do be your thing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. But I'll definitely tune in AMA first. Yeah. Yeah, anyway. Let's see. Do I have anything else on the W. Nope, that's all I have. Beautiful. Perfect. Alright, you want to talk a little Dilia?

Unadilla 250s Last Corner Heartbreak

SPEAKER_01

A little uni? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Zach Osborne did great.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, did you know that Zach Osborne threw up before the motos? And then that's a normal thing. Yes. You did know that? Yeah. Nice. When I saw that, I was like, aww. Yeah. Have you ever thrown up? Stacey's not the only have I ever thrown up? Before in Mono. No. Yeah, the nerves or whatever that is. Yeah, I don't have that.

SPEAKER_04

My dad's a puker. I'm a little bit of a puker, but not nervous pukes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You ever thrown up in your helmet though?

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I mean, I've got rocks in my throat.

SPEAKER_01

Dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know who got a rock to the Did you see that picture? Let's see. Marshall Welton?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Homeboy got roosted. Oh! Broke. He's got his tooth. Broke his front tooth off. He's got a big old.

SPEAKER_04

He's not very good looking before. Yeah, that's oh.

SPEAKER_01

Well, he's got a funny face here, but yeah, dude. Marshall Welton took a rock. He's a zombie. Broke that front tooth off. Oh, that would suck. Yeah, that poor dude. Yeah, I caught a wrap rock, lap one, and lost my tooth. Made it all the way to the last lap in a decent position. The bike failure. So his bike gave up, so he didn't even finish.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that sticks.

SPEAKER_01

Dude. Other carnage. Did you see that that clip of uh Christian Craig goes down? Surprise, surprise. And then Benny Bloss speed bumps him.

SPEAKER_04

No, I just seen him down on the broadcast.

SPEAKER_01

Did you? Yeah, it's on Instagram, Benny Bloss's page, dude just speed bumps Craig. So if there's some broken ribs, I would not be surprised. Because oh, that looks painful. That sucks. Alright, I'll save that for later. Okay. So Unadilla, did you let's start 250s, dude? Okay.

SPEAKER_02

All right. 254 results.

SPEAKER_01

Kitchen. Fire him, dude. Kitchen's never gonna break the curse, dude. No, he's not. Bro. He rode really good moto one. Like past everybody. Looked amazing. On rails. Yeah. Dude. And then did you that start of the second moto? I cannot believe nobody went down. Yeah. Because you can see it like bump, bump, bump, bump. And they're all just like, like, if anything, he saved Hymas' life. Yeah. Or uh Juju's life by holding them up. And they all went straight.

SPEAKER_04

The cameraman running for his life.

SPEAKER_01

Bro. Bro, that was close. And then Reg go out there and then rides his ass off the whole moto. He looks really good the whole way until the last corner. So he passes.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. Yeah. That sucks. He's just kind of cruising it in.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, he passes some some homeboy named Brody Conley. Yeah. And he's in the fifth position. Gives him two points ahead of the championship. Everything's great. He goes outside on the last corner. This Conley guy's like, I got this dude inside. Kitchen's like, oh shit. Too late, dude. And he freaking wins. And like the Conley dude's like fist pumping, like, yeah. Kitchen was just head down. Like, are you kidding me? I if the championship comes up to one point and he loses, dude's right there. That didn't.

SPEAKER_04

Do you think he got it? Like, he did a great job. He wrote his ass off. Oh, for sure. But do you think he got a little bit of an ass chewing at the end for Mitch, or no? Was that a dude?

SPEAKER_01

Of all times to get a good jump out of the gate, he should have got a bad jump. And then everybody would have weeded. He could have gone around the corner better. You know what I mean? It's just funny that his luck. Like, the one time you get a good jump, man, we wish you wouldn't have. You know? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, God. It's the Cowie curse, dude. They're never gonna, it's there, it's never gonna get broke, dude. It's uh sucks so bad. Yeah, it does suck. But he rode really good. He looked he looked really good, and that again wasn't his fault. Like it just sucks, but and he's still leading by one, right? Oh, is he?

SPEAKER_05

I didn't even left that eight.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, one point up. But dude, Davies looked good. Did you see his crash in race day live?

SPEAKER_04

He looked like it hurt. He bounced off.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, he was going fast into that corner and just tucked the front over the bar. Bam! Like that wasn't. I was a little nervous after that for him. Uh he rode good 2-1. And yeah, yeah, I mean, he rode really good. Chance Hymas, solid ride. I really thought he was gonna get it there in that first moto, but even if he wouldn't have gone down, I think Kitchen would have got him eventually. But but yeah, he looked really good, and he, you know, we've seen him throw a little anchor this year, but he did good.

SPEAKER_04

He's finishing the season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's gonna make it out. That's awesome. Wish you could get a win out of the guy, but that's all right. Did he not win one moto? A moto, but not an overall, yeah. Dude, Carson Mumford, what a guy. He's fun to watch several times in a row now that we've seen up on the top. I mean, there was a time before Levi got so far, I was like, dude, Carson, you get on the podium, he's gonna be on the overall. Like, this is sick, and then it's like, ah, got stolen from him. But like, dude, he's riding really good.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he's he's putting a lot of effort in, and then watching him, he he's fun to watch. Like the way he he is on the I remember where we were at up at Washugal, like the way he would go into his corner, his body positioning, it looks so aggressive. And yeah, I really liked watching him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we could just get him on a different bite, dude.

SPEAKER_04

It's like we're gonna we're gonna fire Levi.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_04

And then we're gonna hire Carson. And then if when Carson doesn't do it, we're gonna fire Carson and go find his Brody Conley.

SPEAKER_01

Brody Conley. Whatever his taste is. Dude, I didn't really see Ryder D much on the on screen. I got third that second one, but five-three for five. Kind of a bummer, but uh, I mean, that's that's good. Do you see his his teammate get speed bumped that first mode? That was a big get-off.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yes, I did. I saw Instagram, what's his name? Eyebrows.

SPEAKER_01

Is it Benick? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no. Casey Cochrane.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there he is, Cochrane. Yeah, 40 at DNF. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big, that was a big one.

SPEAKER_04

Evan Ferry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 41. Weird. Yeah. Alright, let's go back. Up here. People who matter. Just kidding. Yeah, so this Brody Conley guy, he's from New Zealand. He races for the Quadlock Honda. He comes over, he raced. I guess he raced Southwick, which is the Sandy Track, right? He got 38th, so not good there. Red Bud 25th, still no points. Last year, and then 8-5? Yeah. Adila.

SPEAKER_04

Weird.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. I mean, he raced a couple of times in 25 as well, but finishing mid-20s.

SPEAKER_04

Um what happened? Because it's not like it was just one moto.

SPEAKER_01

No, he didn't. It was two.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Did he race Unadilla last year?

SPEAKER_01

Let's see. Unadilla, yes, got 20th and 25th. So 20th. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, you kind of know what the track does, but dang, dude. Yeah. Good friend. So yeah. And I like the little the little effort at the end to pass him back.

SPEAKER_04

Like got him. Sucker.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No, that's cool. Even to I mean, kitchen closed that gap. It was like eight seconds, close it super fast.

SPEAKER_04

And then probably tried to catch a breath right before finish.

SPEAKER_01

When he got after getting past the Conley guy, he was like, he'd latched onto him. So like that's oh wow. Okay. He obviously got him sleeping. So that sucks. Dude, Bulmer didn't do super great. He was down that first rate, first moto, and then the second moto went off the track to begin with with Kitchens. That sucks.

SPEAKER_04

I just don't I want I want Kitchen to win so bad just for PC Cowie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But I don't see him handling the pressure the way all what's his name, Will. Because Davies. Davies. Davies won in Supercross. I feel like he seems like he is very level, at least on the he's kind of a goofy kid behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_01

For sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But like when you talk to his interviews, I feel like that's the way he races. Is yeah, I'm here to go to work. Uh yeah. Yeah, it's my job. I don't do it. Which I don't see Kitchen beating him straight up on a head-to-head winner takes all.

SPEAKER_01

No. And that's what it's gonna come down to. Yeah. Oh, Kiefer there got uh 32nd overall. 39, 27. Oh, 39's horrible, but yeah, I forgot he raced until you just yep. You had to scroll down pretty far to find that one.

SPEAKER_04

Has he got a point? What is it, 20? Top 20 get points?

SPEAKER_01

No, he has yeah, that is what it is. 21st will give you one, but no, he's not got a point. Not yeah, not surprising, but it was it was a fun race just to watch Kitchen come through the pack. If we would have just watched the front the whole time, that would have been boring. Yeah. Anything else on 250s?

unknown

Nah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't really watch much 250s. Yeah. Okay, 450s.

Unadilla 450s Hunter Crash Fallout

SPEAKER_01

Dude.

SPEAKER_04

Dude, poor Hunter.

SPEAKER_01

Bro.

SPEAKER_04

Like, I want him to win the championship. I called him to win the championship. He's been kicking his brother's ass, and then one mistake.

SPEAKER_01

And dude, the worst spot that that could have happened.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. The bike was mangled. I think he's okay. I don't think he's but now he's 10 down, and I feel like 10 is a lot in this championship.

SPEAKER_01

It is. Is it a good thing in a way though? Take some of the pressure off. Now you're chasing instead of leading. No.

SPEAKER_04

No, not for him.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, is this kind of what we saw in Supercross where he couldn't handle the pressure?

SPEAKER_04

I don't think it's that.

SPEAKER_01

And he wrecked, no. I don't think it was a pressure. I think he just racked. Yeah. Why was he going backwards in that moto?

SPEAKER_04

I I think he had such a good maybe first moto, and then he probably didn't touch the bike in between. Like, yeah, keep it. Track maybe got a little rougher. Everyone else, Jorge Prado changed something in his bike. Holy shit. And uh what the hell? Something's crawling around back there. Is it big? It was kind of big.

SPEAKER_02

Hold on one second. Pause this. That was gross. Whatever it was.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we don't know what it is, but we're gonna we're gonna move forward.

SPEAKER_01

It's under my couch, so when I squeal, yeah, it'll be okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I forgot what we're talking about. Uh just hunter falls. Hang it, dude.

SPEAKER_01

Ten down. Do you is there is it over? Is that it? Are we done?

SPEAKER_04

Unfortunately, I think it is. So if he went one one one one and the only way is maybe that has to happen to Jet.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Jet makes a mistake. Dude, maybe Deegan comes in and just punts Jet and I mean he he even he put Jet down, not on purpose, I don't think. He was quick to look back. He was quick to look back. Have you seen the other angle? No. There's an there's a fan angle, or maybe like media guy on the side. This is very good quality video. He swapped going up the face of that. Jet does? Deegan.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Deegan did.

SPEAKER_04

Deegan's on the right side. His bike swapped real hard, and all of a sudden he's in the in the lane. Nice. And I think Jet came up way fast on him and was like, oh, and then kind of went went down. So the first when I originally saw that, I was like, screw you, Deegan. And then I saw the other angle.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, oh, that kind of wasn't because yeah, when Jet caught Deegan again, he like go ahead, bro. Sorry, God. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Which speaking of Deegan, uh, dude, he's he's he's got me a little bit because I've been watching his YouTube, and it's actually pretty, it's not bad. Yeah, it's kind of entertaining. Yeah, yeah. It's not a total douche. Sometimes there's moments might but you know who annoys me the most? Who? The little the youngest brother.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Like homeboy don't got no real skills.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_01

Like what? Like like you're just totally right now. Nealie's hot.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, she could go make money being hot.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Has a boyfriend that races dirt tracks, circle tracks. So I respect that. She gets out, gets dirt, eh? Kind of, we'll see. Yeah. Gets dirty and races those. May not be very good. But but she's out doing something. Hayden, like, even though he says all the stupid shit that he does, he's a really hard worker.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_04

And like, like putting in the effort once to win, you know. Mommy and daddy done their thing, you know, and then you got Huxon that just does 12 o'clock willies and are like, are you gonna grow up, dude? Are you gonna do anything? Yeah. Which lately, the the like people riding dirt bikes in the middle of the street doing the wheelies drives me insane.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Like, I like you're going to the high school football game and you're just next to like you don't realize all the miners are like coaching and work and are there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Right. Like, all right. Was it a white bike again? It was white bike, same dude.

SPEAKER_04

White and yellow bike, yeah. Dude. Weird.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so Jets gonna win it hunter second bummer. Deegan did Deegan. I mean, he was riding hard that first one, but he's pretty relevant, the second one. You know, fourth. Ended up third. The gift of homeboy going down. Dude, my my fantasy was money.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, mine was too, until Hunter.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, dude, you just ruined everything. Jorge riding amazing, talked about that. Dude, his little line up that really choppy hill where he blew past Hunter. I was surprised Hunter didn't like start using that line because it was significantly faster. Are you good at changing your lines?

SPEAKER_04

I am not.

SPEAKER_01

Me neither.

SPEAKER_04

I get I get so focused where I need to go. Yeah. And I wish I was a lot better at that. I am I'm much better in a race car than a dirt bike when it comes to that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Hmm. Well, that's good. At least you recognize that. Yeah. Marchbanks, freaking, I thought he was dead from when we saw him last at Wash Jugel. Dude, just a he's a beast, man. You ride's good. Marchbanks 5'4 for four. Dude, the bike looks good. I think the cowie looks so good.

SPEAKER_04

With the the graphics, it's clean. Just I really like looking at the cowie.

SPEAKER_01

And that's why you have a green mic. Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

My uh my wedding colors were cowie green. Romantic. That's why I I'm just come on, kitchen.

SPEAKER_01

Somebody make me proud. Dude, Hampshire didn't see him a lot. Fernandes, we just saw a little bit. Jed Beaton. Have you heard that name before?

SPEAKER_04

Only because in podcasts that he's the Australian champion and he came over here, and it's funny he's a champion over there, but it's like a full privateer effort. Right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Like pinning out of a truck in and pick up truck. Yeah. Seventh overall.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, he was sixth fastest qualifier. Even Rhett was like, who's this guy? I'm like, I don't know, bro. Like, dude, I would not pick him if I were you. But dude, seventh overall, 10-9. Yeah. Solid. Solid. Right. It was weird, dude. This one brought over some good guys.

SPEAKER_04

You think of Justin Cooper coming back? I thought he'd be better.

SPEAKER_01

A little lackluster. Yeah, a little bummer. I put him as fifth. I thought we were gonna see some speed.

SPEAKER_04

I had him in fit as fifth, and then I'm like, no, and then I put Garrett.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, nice. Good move. Okay, so who are you? Okay, then we got yeah, Barsha, and then we got Tomac in 11th of the 7. 14. Dang it. What happened with the 14, dude?

SPEAKER_04

Moto won. He looked good. Yeah, he was running fifth. I'm like, okay. Okay, that's perfect. Now we're talking.

SPEAKER_01

Like he I yeah, he did good. And then what happened? I'm assuming a really bad start, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

All I know was someone went down. I don't know if it was Hunter. Like, went down, took forever to get back up, and then was just riding around. And then I saw Tomac pass him after he had gone back on the bike.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, whoa, why you were a minute behind? Yeah. Yeah. Like, wow. That was I was not okay. Who's more concerning? Eli or the next place? 12, Cooper Webb with the 1210.

SPEAKER_04

Eli. Cooper doesn't give two shits about outdoors.

SPEAKER_01

Alright. Damn it. So all right. I don't know where to go with Eli. Yeah. We're just gonna leave it right there.

SPEAKER_04

I want I want him to do good. So bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, Benny's Bloss beta team. Our 10-10-10-10 streaks broken. We got a 15-13 for 15th. Jordan Smith didn't do very good. 11-24. Malcolm Stewart? A poor performance in my mind. 23-16. He was getting lapped.

SPEAKER_04

Did did he miss some rounds? I don't I haven't really paid attention to Malcolm in outdoors.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, Fox Raceway, and then Unadilla.

SPEAKER_04

Oh. And now Factory Cowie.

SPEAKER_01

Which cool. He's a people person. I feel like for the brand, for he of the brand, this is what they need.

SPEAKER_04

But they need someone to win too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, March Banks, top five. There you go.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. He'll he'll clearly be better in Supercross, right? Malcolm's more of a supercross guy.

SPEAKER_04

Top ten.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Garrett's top ten in Supercross when he doesn't rack.

SPEAKER_00

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, he I he didn't qualify that first one, but towards the end of the season, he was doing good.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Mitchell Oldenburg, 41st, 40th DNS. So beta, not great. There's one other writer. Oh, right here in 33rd on a beta. Zach Osborne, 2240.

SPEAKER_03

Just one one out of a point.

SPEAKER_01

All right. So let me just let me just let me just have my moment here.

Zack Osborne Reality Check And Respect

SPEAKER_01

So go ahead. How were you feeling on Zacko coming into that the last three outdoors after his amazing Loretta Lynn's title? Wow.

SPEAKER_04

Dude, I was pumped.

SPEAKER_01

You were pumped. Where were you putting him?

SPEAKER_03

25th.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Yeah. Top.

SPEAKER_04

I think a top 20 would have been like, whoa, dude, he is killing it.

SPEAKER_01

All right. So you didn't have my back at all in the group chat. So thanks, by the way.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But no, it sounds like Bean over here is thinking top five has a bet with Derek. It says he'll get a TEV five, top five.

SPEAKER_04

Like a legit bet.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, ten dollars.

SPEAKER_04

There's no way. Dude, I thought if he would have got top 10, I would have, I would have questioned life.

SPEAKER_01

Right? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

There's no way the top five.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And then Derek's like, and I tell Derek, I'm like, there's no way he even gets a point. You know, I'm like, there's he's not even. And so then Derek's like, put money on it. And so I'm like, well, let me it was one off. I'll say, I'll say 15th. There's no way he gets above a 15th.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I put him as my wild card, 14th.

SPEAKER_01

I did too, even though I knew, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Like, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so Loretta's is great. And he won the the wow class there, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's Loretta's. It's an amateur event.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You're here you are with the pros. And with longer motos.

SPEAKER_04

It's 22, not impressive. For being thick.

SPEAKER_01

And but it's just a past champion. So you want him higher than that. For five years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's not impressive to you.

SPEAKER_00

Really? I don't know. Okay. You went 240, by the way. 40. William.

SPEAKER_04

You're uh you don't think say you went out and you did a moran race and you got on the you were top five, top three in a moran race. Overall.

SPEAKER_01

Top five or top three?

SPEAKER_04

Top five.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Desert race? Desert race. Okay. You wouldn't be impressed with yourself? Oh, I'd talk in so much shit. I know, because I've never got a top five. I've got seventh. This is the best. I think you could I think you're still that guy. I think you could be, as long as you don't wad your brains out and your bike stays together.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Yeah. But no, but okay.

SPEAKER_04

I I would think that if you got top five in a Moran race, I'd be like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

He did really good.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

And it's been how long since you've raced? 2018 was the last time you did a desert race.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_04

Yep. And you were leading. You were overhauling.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

It was the one out here.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah. You were winning the whole thing. I would have won that shit if my bike wasn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. So I think after how many years has it been, and you came out, you did another almost what, seven years later? Or longer than that? Eight? Whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Long time. If you went out and you top five uh desert race, I think holy shit, that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I think I'm saying that's comparative. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So you're saying Zach Osmour's amazing, and so am I. Okay. All right. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'll take it.

SPEAKER_04

So okay.

SPEAKER_01

To even qualify to race a national, I mean, hats off. Like obviously you're the top 40. Right? That wow. But yeah, I mean, and really I shouldn't be, I mean, that's right where I had him. So I shouldn't be surprised at all. Like, I just surprises me that other people think that he could do better than that. It's just like, guys, he's you know, but no, that's impressive.

SPEAKER_04

Dungey left and came back, and he sh I I can't say struggle, but dude, he was top ten.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That was that's impressive.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

There's you know, you know the name Jimmy Johnson.

SPEAKER_01

Jimmy John. Jim Jimmy Johnson. Seven fast sub sandwiches.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry. Is he a NASCAR driver?

SPEAKER_04

Yes. Okay. Seven-time champion.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So you have Del Earnhardt, seven-time champion. Richard Petty, seven-time champion. Jimmy Johnson. Jeez. Okay. So you know the name Del Earnhardt. You know the name Richard Petty. Oh yeah. Jimmy Johnson. Those are the top three. Is there Tom Petty? Tom is Richard's son. Okay. He sucks. Um. But he left the sport. Okay. Retired, whatever. Came back. Can't do a damn thing.

SPEAKER_01

Really? Suck. Like in the back. When you're in it, you're just in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

When you're in it, you're in it. Now he was racing. Granted, he was racing for the best team that likes to cheat and gets away with a lot of stuff, which I like. At the time I didn't like it, but now I respect it. Yeah. But yeah, he came back to another team or whatever, and he can't just do anything. To me, Zacko's been doing better than I don't know why I'm comparing the two than Jimmy Johnson in NASCAR.

SPEAKER_01

Almost the same person. Let's both agree that Zacko did good.

SPEAKER_02

He did good.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And we should nobody should expect him to do better than that. Right? Top 20. That's awesome. We don't see it any higher than that.

SPEAKER_04

You don't think that if he came back next year and said, I want to race full time, he couldn't get 15?

SPEAKER_01

If he came in with prep and like a different mindset and you know trained and lost some weight. Okay, yeah. But I mean, I don't know exactly his story on this one. It'd be kind of fun to figure it out. But you could tell after his moto at Loretta's, which is significantly shorter, yeah, he was gassed. Yeah. So it's like, dude, even if he is running 10th, which would be a miracle, dude, you hit that 20 minute mark. So he qualified 13th. Dude, I was nervous, bro. I was nervous.

SPEAKER_04

I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_04

Because his thing, I guess, is qualifying top 10. That's like he feels he's he tells himself, I have to qualify top 10, or he does not feel good with himself. Oh, really? So he was. He like he was close. Yeah. And so when he got 13th, he was like, ah, okay. But then yeah, obviously Okay. He did say that he was like putting in road bike stuff before the kids would worry wake up and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah. Dude, it's hard to be in shape and be a dad. And dude, just if you give up for a second, like a week, bro. Yeah. It is. I've been having a hard time with the motivation lately for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I finally started like Snapchatting people like, dude, you gotta like start calling me names and stuff because I need something to motivate me. But now we have freaking Vegas Arena, so I got a year, I got oh shit, gotta prepare for it. So yeah. What do the initials JP mean on the to you? Like if you're gonna pick a rider, JP, who is that?

SPEAKER_04

I keep thinking Jason Parsons? Isn't that a desert rate guy?

SPEAKER_01

No, like a pro a pro rider. JP? I can't. Or in Will Survivor. Oh no. Oh no, Jorge. Jorge Prado. Oh, it's Jorge Prado. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Obviously, he did really good. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, okay. I'm like, who the hell is JP? I wrote this down, but I didn't write anything else. Jorge, it's George. All right, so that's a plus one for you. George. I should have put a GP. That would have been better. That would have been better. I should have known exactly who that was. And I picked Barcia.

SPEAKER_04

Ooh, he's not there. Oh, 10th. No way. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01

Skin of my teeth on that one. Jeez, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Woo wee. So what's going on here? Dude, take a chance. Pick Zacko.

SPEAKER_01

You should pick Zacko.

SPEAKER_04

Have I picked RJ yet?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Bar's a 10th, so I made it by skin and my tight. Alright. Who?

SPEAKER_04

Have I picked RJ?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. He got you a point.

SPEAKER_04

Justin Cooper.

SPEAKER_01

No, you haven't. Damn it. RJ Cooper. I'm gonna go ahead and put the What's his number? 24?

SPEAKER_05

32.

SPEAKER_01

32.

SPEAKER_05

RJ was 24.

SPEAKER_01

It doesn't matter. He's just relevant. RJ. I haven't used him yet. I'll use him. Rick James. 24. Oh. Alright. He did good this race, so he's gonna weed next one. Yeah. Um, you didn't want to put Jed Beaton on yours for your?

SPEAKER_02

I I actually thought about it.

SPEAKER_01

Did you do okay? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know if he's doing the last two or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, yeah, you've used, let's see.

SPEAKER_04

I've used all everyone.

SPEAKER_01

Jet, Jorge, Hunter Degan, MarchBanks, RJ. You haven't used Dylan Ferrandez, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, where was the sixth? Oh yeah. Yep. Oh nice.

SPEAKER_01

Justin Cooper, you just used, and you haven't used Barcha yet. So there's still some. Yeah, Barsha's right there.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I could always pick Eli, dude.

SPEAKER_01

No, you already have. He screwed you.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, he screwed me? Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Wash it. Yep. Yeah. So let's see. You are down, you're minus one and I'm minus two.

SPEAKER_05

Ugh.

SPEAKER_01

A P at Red Bud. How do you figure it out?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Can we talk about AP? Oh, poor guy. The first the first one was a bike, right?

SPEAKER_01

I think both of them were.

SPEAKER_04

That sucks. So Destri has an AP little replica bike. Yeah. And so all week it's been, is Aaron gonna race? Is Plessinger gonna race? I'm like, yeah. And then he was on the line and I had a show Destri. Yep, there he is. He's pushing his bike.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. 3838.

SPEAKER_04

Do you think, dude, homie's going to triumph? We're just not give him the leftover motors. Something, right, dude.

SPEAKER_01

Give George. Let's take some parts off of his bike, put on George's bike. George rode really good. Screw him. He just signed a multi-year deal with KTM. Yeah. He just re-signed. So, yeah, clearly. I wish we knew how much. Bro, right? Yeah. What's your guess? How many years? Let's say, I don't know, but let's say three? Wow. Let's say two. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we'll we'll go two years.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Two million.

SPEAKER_01

Million a year?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And then he gets all of his stuff on top of it. Yeah. You know, like his gear brand, his or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Damn. Does he make you want to buy KTM?

SPEAKER_04

Not him. But uh Wow, that's rude.

SPEAKER_01

A Tomac or an AP?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Tomac or AP. Yeah. Yeah. I I I still like I really like the looks of dude. I was really hot on the Hondas, but like, dude, look at Garrett's bike on TV. Just oh, the green.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Do they have an X or off-road 450 version? They do, but I don't. Big Sereno? I don't want to put a Cowie out there. Dude, maybe we should use a two-stroke. We'll be the first ones on the 327.

SPEAKER_04

It's gonna blow up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Alright. KTM? What should we do? We should do anything. I mean Honda 450L?

SPEAKER_04

No, dude, you got a L. It's got the rubber around the forest.

SPEAKER_01

I thought that's what the I don't know. Maybe the Damon didn't have an O, is it called next O?

SPEAKER_02

I think an L is like the low. Yeah. Like a Wade's bike. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Alright, jeez, my man.

SPEAKER_04

Anything else on Good Old Dilla? No, dude. It was it was a cool, cool track. I like the track. I liked watching it. What's your favorite part of the track? Do you like the sky jump? Or do you like my favorite is when they go straight down and turn around and go straight up.

SPEAKER_01

Where Hunter crashed. Yeah. Yeah, that's steep right there.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like the the tracks have changed from like the way they prep it. Okay. It feels more ruddy compared to what it used to be. Because I remember as a kid, like watching Ricky and James do that, and then like Villapoto on the 250s, it felt like it was either, I don't know, not the the dirt was looser. It wasn't as packed as tight, so there wasn't as many ruts. I feel like maybe.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Did it make it for better racing, you feel like?

SPEAKER_04

Or I think so. Yeah. You can move the move around the track more than stuck in a rut. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I thought that downhill was gonna with a couple T-bones, look like there's a couple of them like, but it never never really unfolded that way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, good racing.

SPEAKER_03

Fun to watch.

SPEAKER_01

I uh dude, there was that little I can't remember exactly what part of the track was like a little step up thing, and they would scrub the step up and then barely land straight. And I was like, why are we scrubbing that? What are we are we really gaining time there? It was scary every time. But I didn't love the finish line.

SPEAKER_04

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I did when throw in a booter.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, when they went over the finish line, I I immediately thought, Will it's not gonna like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it did look like a pretty good spectating track. It didn't look overly packed, it looked like there's quite a bit of fence line you could have got on, which is cool.

SPEAKER_04

When after going to the last two, now I look at the crowd like, oh, where would I go?

SPEAKER_01

I know, right? Yeah. Uh where is Unadilla?

SPEAKER_04

New York, I think.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not going there. Yeah. I could be. It looks pretty, not a lot of shade. I don't think it was very hot, but it was all right in the sun. There was no shade. But uh, yeah, good racing. It was fun.

SPEAKER_04

I do have 50,000 southwest points burning a hole in my pocket.

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And debt.

SPEAKER_01

You should probably take your wife somewhere. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Well, sweet dude. I got nothing else on the motor thing that I can think of. No, I got no. Nothing there.

unknown

Cool.

SPEAKER_04

Are we doing a several? Are we going? We're done? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

What are you doing? Um how long have we been going? 115. 115? Another 15 minutes? Just a quickie little finish it off. Let's just keep it going because I want to save the 100 for the 100 reveal. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But let's just pile it on right now. Okay. The last round happens to be when our 100th podcast is going to be. I don't know, kind of exciting. That came quick. I feel like we come a long way. And we're going to do a little cool thing for it. And we'll share those details when it gets closer, but uh look forward to a cool two weeks number episode 100. Woo! Alright. Alright, this is the rolling into the goon garage here. So Derek, you can shut it off there if he wants to. This is when it gets a little loose.

Motocross Stats, Injuries, And Insurance

SPEAKER_04

Why doesn't like motocross keep stats like other sports? Drives me insane.

SPEAKER_01

Like how many rebounds and how many assists you have?

SPEAKER_04

Like how many passes they did.

SPEAKER_01

And it's funny because sometimes the broadcast will throw, especially on kitchen, like you passed X amount of people, but like where do you find that? Where do you just need that?

SPEAKER_04

There's no archive of anything.

SPEAKER_01

Right? Like they could just be making that number up. I don't know. I don't know why not. It makes sense. And they totally could.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Now, I guess would you have to have a camera on everybody all the time to see what you they have transponders? Okay, just more like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You can see the passing the times and the segments and the you had from the the whole shot line. Let's say, all right, you came out 40th on the whole whole shot. Yep. You passed X amount of riders. Or you came out first on the you got the whole shot. How many passes or how many people passed you, how much you faded, that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I I wish there was more little things like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. You'd think it would be easy enough to give us that information, but maybe we don't know where to look. Anyways.

SPEAKER_04

Do you have anything?

SPEAKER_01

I got stupid stuff. Yeah, just little stuff. Just so keeping dirt bike related for a second, just like uh the medical. Like the the teams don't pay for any medical insurance or anything like that. That's all on the rider. And I'm sure a lot of insurance companies, at least everyone that I've ever had, they have on their do you race motorcycles professionally? No. But like, dude, I bet it's really hard to get insurance. And I mean, essentially, these teams are asking these guys to, hey, dude, will you go risk your life for us?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And now I know that in some of the contracts, they they have some medical stuff where like, hey, if you get hurt, we'll still pay you uh your contract value, but you're not getting your bonuses and all the other things. So it's just interesting that that the team relies so much on the rider to to win, to perform, to do all this stuff. But like the biggest problem I see in the sport is the injuries. And when it comes to that, the teams are just like, oh yeah, good luck.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You know? Yeah, there's no there's no winning in uh in dirt bikes unless you're a top 10 guy. You're just yo, yeah. Like say, say you become pro and you're on a lower level team, you're riding for someone. Phoenix Honda. Yeah, and then you wall your brain's out, and oh well. Yeah. And they're gonna go. What what do you got to show 10 years from now? You get to say, I rode dirt bikes for a living, yeah, and now I can't walk.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that would suck.

SPEAKER_01

I think that that this question came up when I I heard uh Blair talking about some of the stuff, and it's just like, dude, unless you have like an insurance policy or yeah, an insurance policy, whatever. On yourself, it's like, oh yeah, it's like a huge gamble. It's like, yeah, dude, what? It's just crazy that yeah, to me, the the biggest reason I either do or don't ride, like I don't want to ride because I don't want to get hurt, but then these people don't.

SPEAKER_04

But then you gotta give you gotta think you're 20 years old, you don't give a shit about that until you do get hurt. You most likely those guys aren't married and have kids. I think maybe that's why some of the guys that like like if like 27 is old in the sport because you're realizing, hey, I'm not probably not making a lot of money at this, and what's my backup plan? If you're just a regular, like you're a professional, but you're a mid-pack guy. Yes. Why am I doing this? Yep. So anyways, gnarly, why why would we do why would you we do Vegas Reno? What's what are we getting out of it?

SPEAKER_01

Clearly to show that we can do it. Jason and Denny. Denny that we wanted to be them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And speaking of that, like doing Vegas Reno, as is there a has there been a race or is that is there a race that you've always wanted to do but never done?

Bucket List Races And Kids Racing Plans

SPEAKER_04

Dude, I think it would be so cool. Justin Barcia did one last year. Go race on the beach. Like those races look so fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, I used to always say the 1000, but now that I've gotten older, yeah. I'm good. Uh yeah, I'm alright. No thanks. I would really like to ride on the beach, whether it be the dunes in Oregon or the I want to say Mexican desert, but you know, I'm kind of out on that, dude. If we go all the way to Costa Rica, that's different, you know. That's a lot different. But yeah, I think ride on the beach would be cool, but I don't know if I need to race on the beach. I don't have whatever it is anymore, dude. I'm getting old. Like I just don't care. Yeah. I don't care. Now, when we go to the mesquite and the boys are racing and all this stuff, are you gonna are you gonna be able to hit any of those? You're work Saturdays, huh?

SPEAKER_04

I think it'd probably take some days off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Cause yeah, I just spent some money on Luke on the 65 on new graphics and classic full set of gear boots. Oh, really? Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Dang it, damn it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so damn it. William, we uh now Death Street's gonna be like, I want that. I'm like, okay. I'm gonna cave instantly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we were practicing starts yesterday. He was doing he's worried about wheeling over, but he's getting some good release. We're racing this weekend.

SPEAKER_04

Where?

SPEAKER_01

Back up in Nephi.

SPEAKER_04

It's cool, I don't want to go, it's whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Not I was gonna bring it up. I haven't talked about it because I I didn't know if I could have a work-off, but I think we're gonna be in an okay spot at work. But it's a Friday-Saturday race, and but you don't have to race, it's Friday's Friday, Saturday's Saturday. They don't add them up, so it could be good. But I'm gonna he's gonna race the 50 and the 65 and see how he does. It's just uh an arena cross, not a enduro cross. So it's just stuff we know? Same place, yeah. So four hours away, a little less.

SPEAKER_04

What time is it at?

SPEAKER_01

I'll find out, let you know.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I'm doing 50 and 65. I just fixed the 50 too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh there you go.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I have a I have a day, I have a day off burning my a hole in my pocket.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. I'll uh I'll hit up Caleb and see. Nice. Anyway, I don't know why did I even bring that up? We were talking about mesquite, yeah, you know, taking the boys' race and all that stuff. I'm uh we'll see if I get the itch again, but like wait, so uh no itching.

SPEAKER_00

Are you going up after school or are you taking school off?

SPEAKER_01

I'm not sure. Okay. Probably no, I mean, if it starts a Friday afternoon, evening, uh yeah, we'll have to leave at least leave early, but we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I guess I could I might be able if I left ride. All right, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Um dang dude. Yeah. Oreo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, dude, uh riding my dirt bike today. Yeah. It's like, man, I want to, I I want to go race. I don't want to ride.

SPEAKER_01

I want to race. Yeah, that's funny that when you you take yeah, I you just want to race, huh? Yeah. Straight to ride. I don't want to ride, I just want to rip.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I like I like the environment, dude. I like being around my friends and the motor and doing it and doing all that. That's my happy spot. That's my de-stressor. Yeah. And I really there was a car race Friday, Saturday, and overall winner takes a thousand bucks. And like this race, I always win Friday night, and I never win Saturday night, and it's driving me insane. And I really want to get, I really like that track, and I didn't go this year, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And Derek was busting your balls about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Anyways.

Random Questions And Family Life Updates

SPEAKER_04

If you had to fight your dad, I think I've already asked this question, but I wanna I wanna ask it again. I think I asked about a year ago. If you had to fight your dad in his prime, would you win?

SPEAKER_01

Me right now?

SPEAKER_04

Or I don't know, your prime, dad's prime. No, yeah, you right now. We'll go we'll go right now.

SPEAKER_01

I think I would win just because I have that freaking rage factor. Just the I don't know. Yeah, he's he's not near as uh aggressive as I am. But dude, Stacey would be hard.

SPEAKER_04

Like you, because his prime is probably let's say, let's say 30. No, let's say like 20, 26, 7. Probably a big boy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Anyways. Yeah. But he's got some weight on me. On my prime, his not prime, I think he's got weight on me.

SPEAKER_01

Would you think of your sweet loving wife, Elise? If somebody had a million dollars cash, said, I want you to punch her in the face as hard as you could.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

A million dollars? No. Not even not even thought in your mind? No, I'm not hitting my wife. Dude, that was my same answer. Somebody asked me, they're like, what?

SPEAKER_04

I was like, no, I'm not, I'm no, never.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I'd probably freaking kill her. Like, you know what I mean? Like, dude. Yeah. Not saying that I'm dead. But like, dude, that no.

SPEAKER_04

No, I don't, I don't care the amount of money, I'm not gonna hit my wife.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

All right, okay.

SPEAKER_04

I I and I I I don't even care if it's for like a hypothetical. Yeah. No, I don't I I don't play, not playing that game.

SPEAKER_01

No. Yeah. I got some stupid ones on here. You can always save them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. What's your favorite, what's your signature dish? If like say you wanted someone to come over and you're gonna cook something for I'm cooking for somebody else? Yeah, like you had you got Caleb over for the weekend and you want to have a nice dinner. What would William cook?

SPEAKER_01

Well, not Megan cooking, you cooking. Yeah, yeah. So, first off, not dinner, but like uh breakfast burritos, that's like my job with everybody's there. Yeah, pretty good breakfast, burritos, not hard to make, pretty simple. For dinner, I'm pretty good at Dutch oval potatoes and probably something on the grill. I wouldn't say that I'm like really good at like a mean steak or like um I'm not very good. Really good chicken thighs or something like that, but I mean, I feel like the potatoes I would say like pretty good.

SPEAKER_04

Like I just go to like smoking ribs. That's my go-to. Yeah, baby back ribs, it's easy. Yeah. Watching a cooking show. I wrote that one down.

SPEAKER_01

Clearly, yeah. And then finish the day off with some cookies. I feel like I do okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you're pretty good. He at least still talks about cookies supercrossed. Yeah, she does. Uh, how's Rhett liking middle school?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, he actually likes it. Yeah, yeah. He feels he he compared elementary school to prison. Oh and he said he felt way more free at the middle school. And I was like, dude, just wait till you get to high school. Like, dude. So, no, he's he likes it. He likes all of his teachers. Rhett's a really easygoing guy, though. Like, he's it takes a lot for him to be annoyed or or whatever. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, Ely Elise. Uh, are you uh dude? It's just been one week, but it's like, wow, you grew up yeah in a week.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but like dude, so we got just changed already, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

School with practice and everything, and then Friday night was a football game, so he went that with his friends, and then last night was a baseball game, Vegas. He got invited to with his friends to go watch. So it's like bro's gone, dude. He's like not even he just sleeps at our house. It's like oh buddy. It's just gonna get worse. Yeah, I know. That's why I like I feel like I gotta keep him on the dirt bike and stuff because like then he'll want to go and spend time with me going to do that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I got other ones, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. No, I feel like that was a good just a little wrap on the end here, a little tease. And yeah, I feel like next week after we race this doab arena cross, it'll be good stuff to talk about, and uh it'll be good.

SPEAKER_03

Oh,

Truck Fixes, Window Tint, And Goodbye

SPEAKER_03

I can break in the transmission on the way up there.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you get your truck back? No, I got it back. Oh, how is it? That's good. Does it shift hard?

SPEAKER_04

No, no, it does shift a little funny in town, but the guy said, like, hey, it's the tune or whatever's gonna take a minute to figure it out. Yep, so once in a while, and it and it's lower on like the lower gears, it'll feel like a little hesitant, but then in the higher gears, that's fine. But then it doesn't do it all the time, it's just trying to figure out, I guess, the way it's supposed to shift.

SPEAKER_01

But yep, figure its life out, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, nice. I did tint the windows, which is like why did I why did I wait so long to do this? Bro, how dark did you go? Uh I just matched the back, I didn't go dark because I my first truck I ever got, I went like limo and I could not see at all. Isn't that nice?

SPEAKER_01

Not a night. Yeah, I wish I could roll them down, all of them roll them down. I can't even back up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So and then immediately my dad said the same thing like, what are you doing? Whoa, what I would have gone darker. Okay, dad. Is it your truck?

SPEAKER_01

No, yeah, he's into that black.

SPEAKER_04

Also, you want to pay for it? Because I'm sure it's more. And he's like, Why don't you do the back? I'm like, the back's already tinted. We should have just redone it. And I'm like, Whatever, dad, dude.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm on Stacy's page. Are you?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, read them all.

SPEAKER_01

So this car I just bought, it had the back window and two windows. You know, they were limo, five percent, whatever. Uh-huh. Nothing on the fronts. I had him strip everything and really, yeah, redo everything. Whatever, dude. Yeah, it's tinted the windshield and everything. Nice. Like all the way down, like the whole windshield.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's like 50%, so you can't really tell, but like you can't really see in. Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_04

I won't even know how to ride that too.

SPEAKER_01

It's like it's like driving a tunnel all the time. Yeah. It's like ah even, but nighttime. Yeah, I don't know. Even with your glasses, I feel like my eyes are so sensitive to light. You got pretty blue eyes though, too.

SPEAKER_04

No, yeah, I'll go outside, I'll be blinded.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't know. Sweet to their own. My wife doesn't want tint on her rig, so be more into that.

SPEAKER_04

At least doesn't want, she can't see. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, thanks for listening to True Goon Podcast. We'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Peace.