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May's Republican primary. Ep. 24
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Jimmy and Andrew discuss the current political candidates for May's 2024 primary.
Intro music by Upstate - How Far We Can Go
Podcast Planning and Eclipse Excitement
Speaker 1Hi everybody , welcome to the MC Squared podcast . This is episode 24 . I'm joined tonight by my co-host , jimmy McKenna , and my name is Andrew McNeil . Let's go , let's go .
Speaker 3Let's go .
Speaker 2All the time to learn .
Speaker 1Okay Ready , welcome back everybody . Okay , cool , yeah . So , jimmy , it's been a little while since we talked . I think we do this every time . I say it's been a while because it has A couple weeks . It always is , it's been three weeks actually , but when you're binging on MC Squared podcasts you don't realize , and probably don't even care , that it's been weeks .
Speaker 3No , because it's actually been seconds between the last videos that they've watched . Most of our 44 listeners .
Speaker 1Yes , well , we actually have quite a few listeners . The subscribers are a little lower , but that's all good .
Speaker 1So 44 subscribers on YouTube ? Yeah , we have generally on the YouTube channel . Well , we , we've had some , some episodes . Over a hundred people watching them , yeah , uh , but most of them what do you say about ? 50 or 60 , 70 ish is pretty solid usually . And then , um , I actually take the live , the , the um , the video , uh , before it's uploaded to YouTube and I put it directly on my X ? Uh timeline and I generally get 70 or 80 impressions off of that too . So I don't know how many people want , you know , watch it or not , but then I I pin it to my profile because I I'll text quite a bit .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1And it keeps it up there . You know I'll keep it on there until I bring up the next one . We it on rumble . We get a few views there , uh , and again we're just kind of start starting on some of these other sites , um . So , you know , youtube's the king , but also want to kind of be , um , uh , diversified a little bit because , uh , if you've listened to our podcast , sometimes , sometimes we'll say politically incorrect things .
Speaker 2I mean , it's the truth , but it doesn't matter , we're not big enough for YouTube to find us .
Speaker 1No no , and we'll get big enough and then they'll censor us and shut us down , and I want to have some alternate media . We'll have to go to Rumble , but anyway , well , did you ?
Speaker 3tell them what our plan is . No , what's our plan ? Talking about this , so and so when I say it on on on air , then we have to do it , but we're looking to try to get 50 subs , yeah , on youtube so that we can go live on youtube right , and andrew had a really cool idea yeah , I hate these ideas .
Speaker 1I they come out of my mouth .
Speaker 3They do and you're gonna do , but I'll hold you to it because I think it's kind of good . Sometimes the best ideas come up just but he wanted to do some live stuff at the Vigo County Fair this year .
Speaker 1Yeah , and actually if we do , if we can get our mobile , if we're able to do live and we can kind of get our mobile set up working , we could do some at some of these political events and all these political candidates love to talk . Anyway , I mean you know they'd be glad to , but honestly , I think that live would be great . We'd have a lot more bloopers , for sure , but we could talk about current events , things as they're happening , and give our thoughts on it .
Speaker 3I think that might be a little more interesting , i't know be fun to do .
Speaker 1well , I think it's more interactive because I know that once you start getting more of the live than people can comment and we can watch , we can have our producer and drew yes , drew mcneil we have our producer yes , the drewski yep .
Speaker 3Comment on it , or or let us know what people have said much more interactive , and that we usually , uh , film these in the evening . If you're watching us on Instagram right now , we're doing that live . Yeah , but in the evening when people may be available , have their phone , whatever you're doing in the evening after dinner , so we might be able to get , since our timing's right , we might be able to get some people watching live .
Speaker 1It'd be great to do it on all platforms , like Facebook , also , my ex . All I got to do is or Twitter , whatever I can't . I have always say Twitter , but it's , it's X , um , and simultaneously do it live , it'd be fun I do .
Speaker 3I'm a little hesitant about it . We do get lit up , not a little like a little bit , because , uh , we're old , yeah , that's interesting .
Speaker 1So we've had some great comments . We've had some interesting comments . Yeah , we have been called incredibly out of touch old men . I love it , I kind of wear that with a badge of honor , especially considering the source was some 35 year old still living at home with their parents on the couch playing a video game .
Speaker 3We don't know that for sure .
Speaker 1Oh , that's what you told me . I well , we're able to say that .
Speaker 2I'm just kidding .
Speaker 1I was trying to make you feel better about it .
Speaker 3I'm trying to make you feel better . Yeah , we should get out of touch , old Ben .
Speaker 1Yeah , we should change it from MC Square Podcast .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , out of touch , yeah .
Speaker 1Well , we're still working on trying to get a Gen Zer in here to explain some of the current slang , so we'll see if that happens . It may happen tonight , may not , I don't know . We'll see if it happens at some point . I think it would be funny . It would be funny .
Speaker 3So we're going to talk a little about upcoming primary .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , let's do it . Okay , cool .
Speaker 1So um early voting starts next week , so when this video is released , the very day it's released , which will be , uh , tuesday , uh , early voting starts for this , for this primary , I agree , uh , but I don't even know if we're going to make it past the eclipse .
Speaker 2No , I'm joking .
Speaker 3That'll be the day after the eclipse , right , Right the day after the eclipse and Andrew is secretly sipping his water coffee over there , hoping it's going to be cloudy .
Speaker 1I am not hoping .
Speaker 3Yes you are , yes you are . I'm not hoping . Oh , it's going to be cloudy .
Speaker 1But I would just .
Speaker 3I'm like If it's going to be cloudy , but I would just .
Speaker 1I'm like , If it's cloudy , I'm going to hear you laughing out loud . Well , it's this massive deal and you just watch . God put a thunderstorm all the way down the line . Just follows it all the way . You just I don't know . I don't want to ruin anybody's fun . It is pretty cool .
Speaker 3It'll be amazing . Even if it's cloudy , it'll still get dark . Yeah , and when ? This ?
Speaker 1obviously is released . It's already happened , so the world may have ended and then this just never gets put out there . But it is crazy . People are like the governments are telling people to stay home , get food and water for days . I'm like preparing for this huge natural disaster . It's really kind of odd . Why do you think they're doing that ?
Speaker 3I don't want to get that I don't .
Speaker 1Are they building up a hype , or they ? Or because this can't possibly be ? We have had eclipses for for since the beginning of the world is this ?
Speaker 3is this the first eclipse since the big c word coven ? Yeah , so what's ? Well , they found out that they can use things to get reactions out of us Right and play us in ways that they love .
Speaker 1Well , all they got to tell us is that to stay safe from the eclipse , you've got to wear a mask , and you'll see people slapping .
Speaker 3Well , they're , they're getting , and I totally get the whole eye protection thing , but man , they're getting hot and heavy on that the whole eye protection thing but man they're getting hot and heavy on that again .
Speaker 2Well , no , the eye protection , oh the eye protection . The eclipse , I'm like are you serious ?
Speaker 3no , we stopped doing mask , we're just doing eye protection now yeah well , we'd be okay .
Speaker 1Oh , I sold quite a few glasses , so well , that's okay .
Speaker 3Then , if you're as long as long as you get your , I support this message .
Speaker 1As long as you get , I support this message get your , get your like , whatever by the you're listening to this you won't be able to get it anyway .
Speaker 3They're going to be laying on the streets like tootsie rolls after a parade . Yes , yes , yes .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3But it's a great .
Speaker 1No , not now . Yeah , it's pretty exciting . Did I ever tell you the story of my wife's family when they had an eclipse that they were to get up and see in the middle of the night ? When they had an eclipse that they were to get up and see in the middle of the night ? You ever hear this story ? Oh my gosh . Oh , it's a great story , so I'll tell this one , just because oh yeah , so it was .
Speaker 1My wife was in high school . This was a long time ago . I don't want to tell you how long ago . That was a very long time ago and anyway , we're the same age , so that's not very nice . Very nice Anyway .
Primary Election Candidates in Indiana
Speaker 1So they all got up at like 2 or 3 in the morning and they all go out and they're like amazed because they're watching the moon disappear .
Speaker 1Lunar eclipse yeah it's a lunar eclipse in the middle of the night and they're super excited and they're watching and they notice after a while nothing's really changing . It's kind of weird , so they go to bed . They thought that was pretty cool , they got to see it and the next night somebody happens to just kind of look out the window and the same thing is there and they all got out and stared at a street lamp .
Speaker 1Seriously same thing as there and they all got out and stared at a street lamp . Seriously , it wasn't . Yeah , they thought it wasn't an eclipse happening , it was the . It was a street light on the street that they'd lived at forever , that they there's always been there did they not go out after night and see that street light ?
Speaker 3I'm sure ?
Speaker 1they had . But two in the morning , they're all tired , they're just , they're all excited so they missed it , but it probably was in the other side of the of the uh of the sky , and they just weren't even looking in the right area . They were literally staring at a street . Yeah , anyway , so be careful , uh , make sure that you're actually staring in the right direction .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's not a street light . I thought you were going to say they got up at 2 o'clock in the morning for a solar eclipse .
Speaker 1No , that would have been funny too . That would have been really funny to trick your kids to do that .
Speaker 3Hey guys , we're going to get up at 2 o'clock in the morning . You can tell them it's like noon .
Speaker 1Yes , this is how dark it gets at , okay , anyway , yeah , all right , early voting is going to be open on tuesday , so so , uh , let's okay . You , what do you want to talk about ? Because we , obviously we have a presidential , uh primary coming up uh , first tuesday in may here in indiana . Um , the only person that's going to be on the ballot , or should be on the ballot , is donald trump . He's already won . He's already won . I mean , it's over , and so there's not a lot of drama with that . You've got the governor's race .
Speaker 1There's actually a lot of candidates for governor here in Indiana . The leading , by all indications , the leader of that field , is Mike Braun , who is currently US Senator . Jim Banks , who is a congressman , is running for US Senate to replace Mike Braun . He is also unopposed on the—he's unopposed , not also , he's unopposed on the ballot Very conservative guy . Mike Braun is , I think , far and away is leading . I don't think it's close , but according to the polls and who knows if you can trust those all that much but Suzanne Crouch is coming in a distant second , and then all of the other guys . All of them are just kind of bunched in there around anywhere between 6% , six , seven percent , uh and less .
Speaker 3Yeah curtis hill .
Speaker 1He was a , so curtis hill is is is an interesting story because of all the candidates that closest , the closest to my views and my politics , the closest to conservative values , is Curtis Hill , without a doubt , and when he won election as the state attorney general , he was the number one vote getter in the history of Indiana , huge support .
Speaker 1He had a scandal probably three years into his first term and the politicians smelled blood in the water and he was replaced at a convention not at , not at the ballot box , but he was replaced at a convention by the republican party . Todd rakita took over and Todd Rokita ran and successfully won . Todd Rokita is up this time and he won't be on the primary ballot but he will be at the convention that we hope to go to in June . So Curtis Hill , very articulate , does a great job and actually , as Attorney General general , was solid , just really strong fighter . But because of that um , controversy and it was , it was pretty bad honestly yeah yeah , um , it's inexcusable .
Speaker 1Unfortunately , his stock has dropped precipitously and it is just a huge uphill battle . And it's very disappointing because I would love for him to have . He would have been a great , great candidate .
Speaker 3But anyway , that's the consequences . Curtis Hill I recognize , suzanne Crouch and obviously Mike Braun .
Speaker 1But , there's .
Speaker 3what is that ? Six Republicans running and one Democrat ? Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1And Jennifer McCormick is running on the Democrat side . She's an absolute train wreck . She is a complete communist within the education realm and was once a Republican , and I'm not parsing words with her at all . There are people in the education world that are Republicans like her because she's quote education and that drives me nuts because her views are just completely left wing radical . It's really totally . Would be an absolute disaster for her to become governor , so yeah , Well , what else we have
Discussing Congressional Race and Environmental Concerns
Speaker 1?
Speaker 3Oh , locally .
Speaker 1Well , let's , let's go , let's , let's pop down to the congressional race . So in the eighth district we have a Congressman , larry Bouchon , who's been Congressman for I think it's like eight terms . That could be wrong . I mean , it's been a long time . Eight terms , that's probably . Yeah , it's probably been close , I don't know . Anyway , he's been . He's been Congressman for since 2010, . I think so , not that many terms . Anyway , for since 2010, . I think so , not that many terms . Anyway , he resigned , or didn't resign , but he announced that he would not be running for re-election right around Christmas time . So these candidates have had almost no real time to run for this seat . And there are a ton of them . And I think it was kind of a huge disadvantage , because when I ran for Congress in this district , obviously I was not well known . I was a no name . Even after running , I'm still .
Speaker 3But anyway , Because of the podcast you have a name now .
Speaker 1Yeah , oh , there we go . I started running in October of the year , before the primary , so I started running in October and , honestly , could have been running even earlier . So these folks haven't even gotten off the ground to like February and already we're now voting . So it's a really really short , tight window . I've got a sign for one up today , but most of them don't have signs out . I mean , it's just a huge . It's 21 counties in this district and so it's just a bear . So we've got . I think Hostetler is running . He's got name recognition . He was the congressman before , but do you remember him , john ?
Speaker 3Hostetler yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , you and I would remember him . None of the new voters remember him . It's been a very long time since he was congressman .
Speaker 3And he's more south . I mean this district is essentially what Vigo straight down the yeah , so we got Vermillion , I think there is Fountain County all the way down , all the way down to Evanston .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , uh , fountain county , oh , all the way down , all the way down there . So , yeah , yeah , so , uh , I think hosteller , I think mark messmer , who is the uh whip in the , uh , the state senate . He's a state senator , uh , down from jasper area , um , and I think that , um , I think that christy risk who's run ? Uh , this is now her third time running .
Speaker 2I think she's got some name recognition .
Speaker 1Mark Messmer's got a solid area and I think John Hostetler's got somewhat name recognition . I think those are the three , honestly , Among all the other ones that are running , I don't see that anyone else is going to have much of a shot .
Speaker 3This Richard Moss . He runs for all the time , right . So , richard Moss , he has not . This flyer has shown my place all the time , yes , but he's not Lots of campaigns .
Speaker 1So he's a doctor . He's in the same area that Messmer is in . He's from Jasper . He's a doctor down there . He did run in the 9th District in Bloomington's congressional district a couple years ago . He moved across the line to be able to do it , Because you can run for Congress People don't know this . You can run for any district you want and not live there . You just have to move there . If you win , it's totally true . Yeah , there's the residency requirements Permanent residence . You have to get a permanent residence within certain . The law is really crazy . So that's what happened with Trey Hollingsworth in the 9th District several years ago . He's from Tennessee or down south there . He figured out there was an opening in that district and there were millionaires . He went and basically bought himself a congressional district and then moved there and he was actually a great congressman .
Speaker 1So I mean I'm like , oh , but then he was really good . So then you're like , well , okay , but he went and basically bought himself one . So we're going to have to take a break and we will be right back alright , welcome back .
Speaker 3Yeah , welcome back everybody , and don't welcome back if you've been watching live , because we're shooting live on Instagram and you got all those cool outtakes and the things that we said .
Speaker 1I don't think we told people we were shooting live on Instagram in the show but , but obviously you can't go there now , but we normally record and you'll never know unless you're following us on Instagram .
Speaker 3What is our Instagram ? It is MC squared dot podcast . Okay , mc squared dot podcast .
Speaker 1Okay , yeah , yeah . So go to our Instagram channel . Follow us there .
Speaker 3I think we're going to do this live everyone now . So we usually do them on Thursday , yeah , and then video , if you want to go to X , you can also follow me .
Speaker 1Uh , and I'm going to start . I'm not this week . I'll post the video , but I will , I'm going to do it live next , and so my handle is at Andrew T McNeil , 73 . What's the T stand for ?
Speaker 3My middle name . Okay , my middle name . It stands for my middle name , it's an initial . Andrew the McNeil .
Speaker 1That would be great that would be awesome , yeah , but that's not it . No , do you know what my middle initial is my middle name is you do , don't you ? Because I had to put it on a Canada thing . Yes , you did . Yeah , I know it .
Speaker 3What do you think of that name ? I love it , what I love it Really . Yeah , there was a character in it's Tobias Toby .
Speaker 1It's not Toby , it's Tob , I think it's nice . I've never liked it .
Speaker 3I think it's nice that you have it . I don't think I would like to have it , but I think it's nice that you have it that's right , there we go .
Speaker 1So again go to X or Twitter or whatever it's . At Andrew T McNeil 73 , I've got 2200 followers . I send stuff every once in a while . I do a lot of retweeting , so I mean not a ton but I do you know , so you know what I'm saying .
Speaker 3Do you comment when you retweet ? Do you comment ? I do , sometimes I do .
Speaker 1I'll do a quote like oh my gosh , look at this , or whatever that's not bad At least you're like yeah , I don't just retweet retweet , retweet , and that'd be annoying , but , but , but if you , if you're familiar with X at all , it's just a constant stream , so it's it's not like that ever clogs up your timeline anyway . Okay , All right , On to uh . So what are we going to talk about now ? Not not as much concerned about environment as it is , I think , ruining uh , uh you know , drinking water or being a hat ?
Speaker 1I don't know . I don't know .
Speaker 3I put CO2 in my . I like bubbly water , I know , I know , it's like carbonated water .
Speaker 1CO2 . Is it just carbon ? A carbon uh recycling place or something ?
Speaker 3I don't know way . I have a little . There is something because I , because of my , what I do in respiratory therapy , I do talk a little about earth science when we're discussing , like , how the body breathes and stuff .
Speaker 3I'll give you some numbers , okay , let me give you some percentages , okay , no , I'm just kidding . Okay , so I'm gonna give you . I'm gonna give you , uh , three percentages 78 , 78 , 21 , and less than 1% , less than 1% . Okay , so there's three different percentages . They will equal 100% . Okay , what do you think ? The air around us is made up of ? 78% of what is around us . Nitrogen yeah , good job Drew . So Drew knew this . Nitrogen . Wow , interesting thing . Interesting thing . Nitrogen yeah , good job drew . So drew knew this nitrogen . Wow , interesting thing . Interesting . A lot of people , or young students sometimes will say that's co2 because the co2 thing has been pushed really hard .
Speaker 3It's not no , it's nitrogen's around 78 , 21 is oxygen . Yeah , we need that right less than one percent is carbon no2 .
Speaker 3It has some . There's actually more argon in the air around us than there is CO2 . Wow , it's such a low percentage . And so I mean I do get that you know , like deforestation , but I really that you know that these trees use carbon dioxide , output oxygen . We use oxygen , output carbon . That whole little cycle there , yeah , but here's the whole situation . I mean the earth's sustaining itself and it's sustained itself for a long time and it will continue to . I mean I would be more concerned about like continue to . Um , I mean I , I would be more concerned about , like other things being injected into the soil .
Speaker 3Right then , co2 , it's a gas yeah I mean , I don't know , I guess it can be frozen . Yeah , because that's actually that's less . That's a dry ice , right ? Yeah , that's , that's solid CO2 . Yeah , but as soon it goes from a solid state to a gas state with no liquid state in the middle .
Speaker 2That's crazy .
Speaker 3It's really cool , but I mean it's a gas being injected . I just don't see that there's like the worst gases in the world that come from the center of the earth .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3That are coming up and radon and all that kind of stuff , and we're about CO2 .
Speaker 1Disappointing is you can't trust the scientific community anymore because they're so politicized .
Speaker 3I know , and you bring the term CO2 in , it just scares people .
Speaker 1Yeah Well , we want to be carbon neutral . Well , that's a dumb thing to say . That's actually a very stupid . If we were carbon neutral , carbon neutral Cease to exist which is kind of what they're wanting .
Speaker 3Carbon is the building block of .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , it's not poisonous , is it ?
Speaker 3Carbon no . Yeah , and see , that's the thing they want you to think that this is a poison . Every one of our atoms is made out of carbon , usually as one of the holes of it , but that's okay . Yeah , but anyway , carbon dioxide , I'm not super concerned .
Speaker 1I think it does scare people a little bit and I think they're not happy with the feel like that Whatever safety tests were done were not transparent enough . I know they had some public meetings . People feel like and I think this is fair oh , you had your meetings , that's great Cause you were required to , but you were going to do it anyway , so it didn't change anything and most of the time it is that way .
Speaker 1Um , maybe we should have somebody on it's an expert about it . You know we could have if people are more people are interested in it .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean , the thing is with carbon dioxide it'll be . It's gone as fast as here . I don't think we're gonna bring out a measurement and see it changes actual road indiana radioactive waste .
Speaker 1That would be a different story , because a lot of that stuff doesn't go away for a thousand years where are they doing this again ?
Speaker 3it's in west tarota . Oh well , like I said during the break , okay , it's been some times . In the river bottom there's there's enough old , rusty rims and tires . Yeah , that you could build a . I don't know , you could build a whole playground out of that stuff if you tore those tires up . Yeah , check out the river bottoms , man . I mean , I think the best thing to do would probably be to get teams together . We're going to clean up the river bottoms , if you really wanted to feel like you're making a difference .
Speaker 1Oh that's true , that's . That's tough work . Oh yeah , yeah . Have you ever seen any of those divers when we were ?
Speaker 2watching yeah .
Speaker 1They dive in and getting all the junk from the bottom . Yeah , or all the junk from the bottom . Yeah , Just over there by the Fairbanks Park we were watching them bring stuff up . Oh my gosh .
Speaker 3There's a hole . There's a hole right downstream from the ramp . There's a hole there and there's all kinds of stuff yeah . Anyway .
Speaker 1Okay . So what else we got ? I know that hopefully we can . You know we're not going to . We can't talk about what's what's happening literally as we're , as we're shooting here , isu is in an NIT championship game and we are we are rooting for them . We're hoping they do really well . That's really exciting for Terre Haute . I don't think I don't think in the NIT tournament it's ever happened for ISU . I think with Larry Bird and Bob Heaton back in 79 , that was that was NCAA right , I think they were in the big one . Yeah , yeah . So but they're , they've done really really good there . They're really good this year .
Speaker 3I hope those , I hope all the kids stay .
Speaker 1Yeah , well , that's . You know . I had a conversation with a pastor friend of mine and he he wanted us to , you know , maybe talk about that , the transfer portal and these guys getting money in college . And I'm like , well , you're going to have to have somebody on here that knows what they're talking about . So I know that sometimes it sounds like I don't have a clue what I'm talking about . I like to limit it to things that I feel at least confident that I know something , at least enough to be dangerous . And on this issue I only have a general free market idea on it .
College Athlete Endorsements
Speaker 1I have thought for years that the college athletes , the big schools , your quarterbacks , your star players , were getting ripped off royally because the schools were making a killing off of them and they couldn't even take an endorsement from a local car dealership , they couldn't even do a commercial for them and take any money . Now they've changed all that and I guess these guys are making huge money in college . Isn't that kind of what we're preparing these young people for in college ? Isn't that kind ? I mean , jimmy , look , isn't that kind of what we're preparing these young people for in college is to enter the world of business or enter the world of commerce . What is wrong with a star quarterback , say , getting a several million dollars from endorsement deals while they're in college ? What's wrong with that ? Cause they've changed that . Now they're allowing that .
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 3I don't know if I , I don't know if I have enough of an opinion , but you said , you said something like a transfer portal .
Speaker 1Well , no they've got this this where they can just transfer out from school to school to school and they go to bigger dollars . So get , they go to like a smaller school . They , they get , uh , they get notoriety . They transfer out to a bigger school with a nice big paycheck for endorsements going to another college and they're making it easier for them to do that so where's the money ?
Speaker 3so it's kind of killing the smaller school . So where does the money come from for that ? Is that like alumni associations ?
Speaker 1no , no , it's from bit from . Like you know , n Nike or I'm not saying Nike does it .
Speaker 3No , but when they transfer these out , they transfer to , and a psychologist can't offer them .
Speaker 1No , I don't think the colleges offer them . Yeah right , yeah , I know , but you've got endorsement deals from , I don't know , local businesses or somebody trying to , or even a national chain , if you're a nationally known athlete so if nike let's say , in case nike would sponsor you , right , nike's gonna want you to play for iu , not isu well , there you go .
Speaker 1I mean yeah , yeah , yeah , they're gonna want you to be on tv , so the fans of these smaller schools are , or the , the communities of the smaller schools , or feel like they're getting ripped off and killed and all that kind of stuff . So again , I don't know enough to have a good opinion one way or the other . I do think it's a positive that the schools that were raking it in by the millions and these kids would get kicked out . They would lose everything if they were found to have had money slipped underneath the table a car , and they always did too . They always you know a coach , the table , a car , and they always did too . They always , you know somebody , a coach would give them a car , somebody would give them a brand-new car , put the title in your parents' name or whatever it was .
Speaker 1I mean to get around the rules . It was always happening anyway and the school was making out like a bandit . And then you're just like what if this poor kid who's fantastic in college , tremendous money-making potential , breaks a leg or a knee and doesn't even have that pro career , and then that opportunity's passed them by ? I don't know . I just think it makes sense that if they can make that money in the free market , that they should be allowed , to a certain extent , to do it . I think it's just possibly hurting some of the smaller schools .
Speaker 3So I think it'd be awesome if they were able to make that money , if they would all change their major in college to suit something that would be more appropriate for what they have like managing money yeah I mean , that might you know be better as a society if they manage the money Well , I don't know .
Speaker 1It's true , it's true , anyway , yeah , so we should have somebody on talk about that . So , anyway , I feel like the last podcast folks , if you'll look back and you'll see . So this is episode 24 . If you look at episode 23 , I feel like you know , sometimes you can take I have this flyer I hand out with on my sales calls . It has my face on it and I'll tell folks that if you have a problem with mice or you need to keep , you know , rodents away , sometimes you just put this flyer up and it'll scare them away .
Speaker 1We had a picture of Barack Obama on the on the thumbnail of the YouTube video and I just feel like there were folks who maybe wanted to hear the podcast . You wanted to watch what I had to say , but you just couldn't bring yourself to click a video with the face of Barack Obama on it , and I understand your pain . I do . I understand your pain , but it is kind of worth listening to . It's an interesting perspective . So hopefully you haven't had anything for this current election , but we should actually probably talk a little bit about what do you think is going to happen to this country . I mean , what if ? What if Donald Trump does not win ?
Speaker 1Oh well , I mean I , I really there's a lot of folks that are listening and probably going yeah , I don't want him to win . You know , I don't like the , I don't like the dementia patient in the white house , but I really can't stand that guy . So he's so rude , he's so you know , ragged , docious ragged , docious and what else .
Speaker 3Um , he's not civilized . Was it right ? Vote for civility .
Speaker 1Yeah , so yeah , yes , vote for civility .
Speaker 3I think it . I just hope that the true votes come out . That's truth is all we want , right ? That's all we seek is truth , and I just I don't any deception at all if even in the smallest amount is enough to break so many people , and so I really just want truth , and I think a lot of people are that way too .
Importance of Election Integrity and Delegates
Speaker 1If we legitimately lose an election , then so be it yes yes , we want to know where we're at . Yes , but I feel like the last election , I feel pretty strongly it was completely stolen . There was and even today there's still more stuff coming out I mean just absolutely rigged election in Georgia . Michigan was a disaster , arizona was . I mean , this stuff was just awful . And who gave the order for them all to stop counting at once ? At what was it ? 11 o'clock at night ? They just all stopped . Trump was way ahead . They all stopped .
Speaker 3We just want truth .
Speaker 1I mean , that's what it comes down to .
Speaker 3We just just want it to be a true election .
Speaker 1I mean , that's the American people deserve , is that it's well I don't know if we do , I mean I think essentially we have to have it or we cease being a free people completely . If we don't have elections that count , if there's a candidate that the establishment decides , this person is so bad , we can't let the American people pick this person .
Speaker 3We're in a terrible place and the establishment is the most . They're so unattached and detached from what regular people do every day and I think everybody can agree with that , but we sit back and we let them make decisions , and they want to take it out of our hands and we just can't give it up . Nope .
Speaker 1No , I'm hopeful , cautiously optimistic . I think , um , I think Trump is not going to be um like , he's not , like . He's not the answer for our country , in the sense of Trump wins and everything goes , goes back to where it used to be . But if Trump loses , we are in big , big trouble , Because at this point , if Trump loses and the election were held today , he would win in a landslide . If Trump loses , it's because we're getting ripped off and that is kind of to your point . That is more scary than a candidate winning or losing the fact that we no longer can pick our own presidents , our own people , and that's really so . Election integrity is pretty important , but if Trump gets in , obviously he's a lame duck president .
Speaker 1But we've got a very short window of opportunity to try to rectify some of these losses of freedoms that we've had and try to turn back to mass deportations . Absolutely , they are literally giving congressional districts to California . A lot of folks don't know this . Based on all of the illegal immigrants that are there , they're getting more representation . And these folks , whether they vote or not there's a lot of debate that they allow them to vote . Regardless of whether they allow them to vote or not , they're counting them as people that they then in the census , in the census , and they're giving them more congressional districts . So because of illegal immigration , the Democrat party because that's who it benefits has a bigger representation in Congress than they should . So time for mass deportations . Let's put that in the headline . Time for mass deportations , Andrew McNeil agrees with mass deportations .
Speaker 1Well , we have to . This has been a record . Millions have poured over that southern border . And the number one demographic we talked about this , the number one demographic is young Chinese males .
Speaker 2Did you know that ? Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Yep , military-aged Really demographic is young chinese males . Did you know that we didn't talk about ? Oh yeah , yep , military aged really . Yeah , I wonder where they're coming from . We don't know what's going on over that southern border and folks said , oh , it's racist , I don't know , it's called national security . So yeah , anyway , all right , welcome , welcome back , folks . We've got our last segment here , and so me and Andrea are going to be delegates again to the convention , and I only say this because you do have to run for it in the primary . We're all on the ballot , but we're unopposed . So hopefully , as long as I vote for myself , we should be good .
Speaker 3But , jimmy , you and Allison were delegates once we did delegate back in 2018 . Okay , so what was your experience ? I mean , here's the thing , 2018 , we had younger children . We didn't get a lot of opportunity to do stuff , just her and I . Okay , so we take this , we dress nice , we drive all the way to Evansville , we go into this convention with people and everybody's , you know , fired up and we did that little thing . I don't know how long it lasted , maybe a couple hours and then we drove home and I was really not that excited about it . I mean , I don't know if there were really some . I guess the best thing to do , I mean it's a two day thing Usually .
Speaker 1usually you stay the night , the night before and all , all of the candidates are there .
Speaker 3Why do I want to sit down and talk to those people ?
Speaker 1Why You're such a normal person , Jimmy . What's wrong with you ? I walked in and got some swag from some things .
Speaker 3I remember there was some Trump stuff around then .
Speaker 1So who were you voting for ? Who were the candidates ? What was the big deal Was ?
Speaker 3there any big deal ? We had some . There was some , somebody was running I can't remember who it was , but there was somebody they were voting for . But it was like it was enough of a yay from one side that it was like okay , that person got in , so you didn't actually vote . There was no voting . No , it was all you didn't do an actual ballot .
Speaker 1No , no , actual ballots , no , no , okay , we did the whole thing where they do the , the call so maybe they were unopposed . You think they were the ballots , the folks down there were kind of unopposed , or no no , I don't think they were unopposed , but they did .
Speaker 3They did something that was like the voice vote okay and I remember being like okay , did we vote for because I don't know these jokers , so you were all dressed up and it just and I kind of felt like it was a really big deal until I got there and I was like I don't know , but that's just me .
Speaker 1Well , it's a two-day event . So the night before is when you get to mill around and get lots of free food because the candidates provide tons of food , and you mill around and you know you shake people's hand but mostly you see the food is amazing . And then I mean I like politics , I like the political world , so you know you catch up with folks , friends down in the Evansville area . I'm really looking forward to that this time . We did that again last time . You see people from the different counties and it's just a blast . I enjoy doing it and then if there's any controversy at all , it's kind of fun . If it's not , I could imagine that it'd be kind of boring the next day when you do the voting . But we had , uh , we had like three candidates running for state treasurer this last time and it went on to I think the third ballot . I mean it was , it was tight and the guy who won , um , it was like I don't know . Four , four votes , six votes at the .
Speaker 2Moment .
Speaker 1Yeah , so it was super , super tight and it was just a lot of fun . I enjoy it , so looking forward to it .
Importance of Balanced Perspectives in Politics
Speaker 3So explain real quick though , so people know what are you when you go to a convention for your party . What are you actually ? What are you voting on ? This is different than the voting that we do in the ballots .
Speaker 1Well , yeah , it takes the place of it . It's kind of weird because so , uh , we have a primary in May and that picks the slate of candidates for the Republican party and Democrat party . There are certain candidates that the party pulls away from that process and they pick them at the convention , so that the so that they I don't know why , but it's in the old days they didn't have primaries , it was all done at the convention . You would pick your governor , all of it . So the governor is decided in the primary , but the lieutenant governor , like the vice governor or whatever , that person is picked at the convention . And that's going to be the kind of controversy this year , because Micah Beckwith is running for it and nobody ever runs for it .
Speaker 1Usually the governor , whoever wins the primary , just kind of says hey , this person is running for , but it's who they pick . It's basically they get to pick their own , which is fine . In the presidential , that's what they do . They pick their own VP , but in this one , micah Beckwith is like hey , first of all , we need to make sure we have a conservative who's balancing out whoever becomes the governor . But second of all , this is how constitutionally you say you want it run . That it's . Anybody can run . So either change the rules or I'm running .
Speaker 1So he's been doing actually a pretty active campaign . He's a pastor up in the Indianapolis area . He's very well-known , very conservative . Heard him speak , really liked him . So he's officially running , which is very unheard of it's like the whole establishment . It's all like kind of so we expect maybe Mike Braun will win , but whoever wins is going to then probably bring their own person and so then you're going to have Micah Beckwith against whoever the governor , the party's choice wants . So it's going to be . It's going to be interesting I to see how that that I do like that .
Speaker 3Well , I always think a balance is always really good , yeah , any way you look at it . And , uh , I , I think it's good to have a balance . Don't you know the ?
Speaker 1the laws of leadership tell you to surround yourself by people who you know , think like you and whatnot , but I well , in some ways you should be unified by mission , but you want folks in your inner circle who , even though they think the best of you , will tell you what you don't want to hear and also cover your blind spots .
Speaker 3But the problem is , a lot of people get that mixed up and they pick people who are , yes , men and women , yes , that are going to be around them and are actually subservient to them , absolutely .
Speaker 2And that will kill a leader really quick .
Speaker 3So I love this because this is somebody who's not been my chum since I've been in high school .
Speaker 1That's a really good point . You should contact his campaign and work for him .
Speaker 2That's excellent .
Speaker 1That's a great , that's really good . Yeah , I agree with you .
Speaker 3Yeah , well , it's the same reason why I said if I ever would get elected to an office in Vigo County or Terre Haute , you'd pick a Democrat . Yeah , to be my second man . I know it might sound crazy , but I think you have to have a balance .
Speaker 1I think accountability is always a good thing , absolutely .
Speaker 3I have a couple people that I work with that have different opinions than I do on projects that I work on . Yeah , and initially it is a bit challenging . It's like , ooh , this isn't going to work . What are they , nuts ? What are they thinking ? Right , what are they thinking this isn't gonna work ? But if you sit back for a second and think , that makes me better .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3That makes the . That not make me sorry that makes the plan so much better , right , when you have two different sides to it , right ? I think we've ? We're running on one-sided plans in this country , obviously with the current false administration that's going on , so it's a one-sided deal . You have to have a balance . You have to have even if you don't agree with it . You still have to have , even if you don't agree with it you still have to have it there .
Speaker 1Yeah , I don't know . I think that is that's great because it's it's easier said than done . And it's difficult when it's you , especially if you've got a like , a very , something is very close to your project , that's very close to your heart . It's very difficult to do that . But if you think about it , someone else coming in with a different perspective , if they still have the heart for the , for the goal , because that's key , key goal , yeah , yeah , I mean I think some of what's going on in politics is the goal of of the Marxist wing of the Democrat party is to destroy America as we know it , so we don't have anything in common . I mean there's there's no middle ground there .
Speaker 1But if you've got someone on the other side of the aisle that wants the best for America and you have someone on our side of the aisle that wants the best for America , if we're seeing it from two different perspectives , you're right , it's not a bad thing If we come at it and we go listen , we believe in free markets and they're saying , yeah , but we need to take care of the poor , okay , well , let's find free market ways that we can do that .
Speaker 1We're not throwing government , but it doesn't work that way . That's not , you know , compassion , but we need to listen to each other that that is thrown out the window anymore , because what what's actually happening is an overloading of the system . They're trying to destroy America . That's really where we are at and folks will say , oh no , you're trying to , you know , radicalize the other side . You're using terms , but it's , but it is the reality of , of the truth right now . That's that we're . We're not dealing in 1960s politics . We are dealing with absolute radicals who hate how America was founded . They hate everything about America up to this point and they want to remake us radically and they'll steal elections to do it . So we are in an actually pretty scary time .
Speaker 3The common goal thing is so key .
Speaker 1So we have to have the common goal , you think ?
Speaker 3you saying that over and over is so important if you're going to have those different views , but the end goal has to be common . Well , think about a church okay .
Speaker 1So we all have a common goal . In a body of believers , in a church , in the church , we should have the same goal , whatever it is . It's to further God's kingdom , it's to win souls , it's to feed the people , whatever it is yeah but everybody's different .
Speaker 1We all have different callings . We have different personalities , different perspectives , different life experiences , so we even see things through a different filter . We all need each other Absolutely . And even if we don't see eye to eye on how someone's going about it and this is so easy for me to do it's easy for a lot of folks to do If you've got a calling in a certain area , that becomes and I'm as guilty of this as anybody else it becomes the most important thing . Yes , and yet you've got somebody here on the other side who is a believer , loves the Lord , is totally called by God , has a gift , and they don't see what you as the most important thing . What they're doing is the most important thing , and I think it's kind of what Paul talked about . Listen , everybody's in the body . You're all different . Quit saying you don't need so-and-so . Quit saying you don't need this . You all need each other and working together . Sometimes what you think isn't worth anything is actually worth quite a lot .
Speaker 3I think you win exponentially when you start adding different people in , absolutely In those exponentially , when you start adding different people in in those cases , and I just think it's the way we were built and I think from the model of what was set up in the church , honestly that really is being modeled across the earth .
Common Goals and Different Perspectives
Speaker 3I mean , I'm not saying you know there's going to be different perspectives in different ways , but when you have that common goal is where it really all changes and we stop fighting about . You know you believe this , or you do this or you don't do this . Maybe that's why we struggled so long on meeting those commissions that Jesus has laid out for us .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I think it could be . So , well , folks , we've really enjoyed getting to spend this time with you and , uh , especially if you've , if you watch this live on Instagram , you've seen a lot of the behind the scenes and we apologize for that Ridiculous .
Speaker 3Actually Awesome .
Speaker 1Uh , so , uh , we've had a good time , as always , uh , and I'll look forward to meeting with you guys next time Post eclipse , yeah , post eclipse , and hopefully post ISU championship .
Speaker 3Yes , that'd be cool , we're rooting for .
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Speaker 2Thanks , everybody see ya I got a fire in me . You're gonna set to burn Outro Music .