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Euro 2024 Debate Show w/ Tobias & Cubzy
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Join us on this electrifying episode of the Real Shxx Podcast, where we, along with special guests Tobias and Cubzy discuss all things Euro 2024; we'll break down the key contenders like France, Portugal and Germany and dive into the potential dark horses, such as Denmark, Croatia, Serbia, and Spain. Don't miss our insights on the cohesive dynamics and pivotal stars of these under-the-radar teams.
We'll explore the tactical roles and potential configurations in the current England squad involving stars like Declan Rice, Jude Bellingham, and Phil Foden and new young talents poised to make their mark . Our debate on England's attacking options and the chemistry between key players promises to be riveting.
Plus, get our bold predictions on the Euro 2024 winners and the Golden Boot contenders, with a spotlight on Cristiano Ronaldo's enduring legacy in the beautiful game.
Welcome everybody to the Riiiish Podcast with your host, Mr Wills. What a show we've got for you today A big show, big guests, big personality. We're going to be talking about the European Championships and what we're going to do. We're going to have a preview show of the highest level. I've got two special guests. I'm so excited to have them Introduce yourself.
Speaker 2Hello, hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the real shit, cobbsy, you can't be keep doing that. Can you Tell him, Cobbsy, it's Tobias back to give you the real shit podcast. Give you some real opinions about the new upcoming Euros.
Speaker 3Yes, people, it's me Cobbsy. Respect for the invite. Oh, it's a pleasure having you. You've been a big supporter of the show. No-transcript got a strong squad, Portugal, very, very strong squad as well, and France you've got to say France Well my opinion is France, you get me.
Speaker 1Top, top, top teams, all three of them Tobias.
Speaker 2I agree with two of them France and Portugal. Great, great squads all over. Depth of squads, managers as well, great managers. But my third one would be Germany. Just seeing their squad, what their midfielders are, what their defenders are and also keeper, yeah, I think they've got a frightening chance of potentially winning this Euros.
Speaker 1So here's where I'm at with the European Championship. There's it's a very open tournament for me, because world stars there ain't much really lighting up top, top players in my opinion. But for me, these tournaments if you look at the past winners it's about midfield control. That's where I'm. I'm a bit unsure about England because you need a general in there, and I'm not talking about a tackling general, I'm talking about a pass master. You, you know, germany have got Kroos. Now Kroos has come out of retirement. That is huge for Germany, you know. You've got Portugal Vitinha. He's the new and up and coming pass master. You know, there's other teams. You've got Spain, rodri, you know, and Rodri's the ultimate pass master.
Speaker 1And when you're playing in a tournament after a season, players are tired, you know, and keeping the ball is paramount. That's why Croatia always do so well in these tournaments, because Modric, kovacic, brozovic, what do they do? They keep the ball. So, yes, you've got to go with your certain favourites. I agree with Kubz, to be honest, they're my three France, portugal, england. But it's definitely very open and that's where the dark horse is coming, you know. So, yeah, it's very open. So it comes usually dark horses.
Speaker 3Dark horses, oh, you know, denmark, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, you got Ericsson, just like you were saying he can pass the ball, pass the ball. You know what I'm saying. You got Rasmus.
Speaker 1Yes, and Rasmus, he's internationally proven.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, Good striker. So yeah, they're one of my dark horses.
Speaker 1Christensen at the back. Go, bro, there you go. You know what I'm saying. So they always do well. Yeah, mark, you know what I'm saying. They're always a strong team, just like croatia. You know, they've got that sort of bond, don't they? Now I don't know what it is. It's like players, top players, but team. It's like team over individual, isn't it?
Speaker 3exactly. Yeah. Yeah, they ain't got the one star boy, but they work together as a team. They've got the chemistry. You know what I work together as a team. They got the chemistry. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1And a slight bit of stardust. Yeah, yeah, that's all you need, don't?
Speaker 3you Exactly exactly, and so one of my other dark horse would be Croatia.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, just the two, I'd have to say to myself that I'm looking at Serbia. That's one. I'm looking at their midfielders and their attackers and I feel like, even though you were saying about having the ball, I think that team will thrive on the battling side of the game. They have ballplayers as well, with Savic and their man in the midfielders, and obviously their attackers are obviously looking at Mitrovic, vlaevic and Tavic and looking at Vlaevic yeah.
Speaker 2And Tavic and Jovic Vlaevic yeah, vlaevic as well. You know what I mean Juventus striker doing well this season. And then my second one would be Spain. I think people are probably underestimating Spain because they're an up-and-coming squad with young players, but I think Spain will potentially shock a lot of teams this tournament. So yeah, they're my two, to be fair.
Speaker 1Right. For me, the dark horses. I think you have to put Spain in there, but that group they're in. It's brutal. You know that is one of the most brutalist groups you're going to be in. To be honest with you, italy, isn't it? You've got Croatia, italy, spain, albania. It's brutal.
Speaker 3What's that? Group B? Group B, yes.
Speaker 1I mean that is, you know, that is no joke of a group. Yeah, that's no joke. You know, you've got probably three of your dark horses in that one group. So to me, I want to go with Spain, but I'm worried about them. To be honest, bro, to be honest I'm going to go with this, my two dark horses. One is Belgium.
Speaker 2And you might say why I was about to say why They've still got up front.
Speaker 1they've still got real quality. You know, when you've got De Bruyne in behind Lukaku and you've got Doku on the wing and you're in a group of you Romania, ukraine and Slovakia them men will be fancy themselves to get out of that group very easily.
Speaker 3Yeah, looking at that group, I'd say very, very easily bro.
Speaker 2But coming out of the group, yeah, they're expected to win that group, but will they prevail any further?
Speaker 1but you know if you don't know how the tournament runs. If you are top you face potentially one of the third. You know because some of the groups three teams go through so you've got a chance to get one of the easier teams by topping the group you know and a group like Italy, spain, croatia. You don't really know who's going to finish top.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's true, that's true so for me.
Speaker 2I feel like if Belgium played any of them three teams, I think that'd be a tough game for them.
Speaker 1But they've got still, they've got real quality.
Speaker 2I hear that but a judas name, but with kaku and kevin I think they're com, they're they're ending like even kevin's talking about going to saudi, yeah, but then we're talking about modric.
Speaker 1He's 38.
Speaker 2But that's a player. That's the player about real, real quality yeah, but modric. And have you seen tony crowe? Have you seen?
Speaker 1le carfus international record, that's the man 85 international goals, though supreme uh lukaku 85 international goals he's got for Belgium.
Speaker 3Okay, that's serious Goal scorer, that's serious business Do you know what I mean so. Just looking at their forwards now. So Lukaku, daku Trossard I forgot about one man as well. Bro, you know, they've got Anana.
Speaker 1Tillemans. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not saying they're rare, but we're talking about dark horses here, ain't we?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, so they've got a young squad and that's what they've obviously went for. Obviously you've got Witzel and obviously De Bruyne and that looking for the experience, but their squad's relatively young.
Speaker 1but like they're looking at as defenders, but I watched them against England in Wembley. De Bruyne wasn't playing that game and he snuck a 1-1 result and it was England was battering them. And it's only a friendly. I say, but you still. I take a lot from pattern of play or what the teams are going to do but that's why England's not in my top three or three but they were in mine.
Speaker 2But, like I said, I'm just yeah, I'm trying to say England have won one of last five games they've played, so to to use England as an example for Belgium.
Speaker 1It's crazy, because England haven't really done well in no games, except for when they won against Bosnia 3-0 yeah but we're talking about you know what I mean, you're going to look worrier right now, you know what I mean, but you picked Well, we both picked them, I know I know I found force.
Speaker 2I know I was forced.
Speaker 3That's what I mean you dark horse. Let me change that.
Speaker 2Let me change that Yo.
Speaker 3I wish I picked Germany as well.
Speaker 1Man, oh, I'm going to go with Belgium. I'm going to pick three dark horses. I was desperately going to pick the Netherlands, desperately going to pick the Netherlands. The Netherlands, to me, probably got the best defence in the tournament and the options. They've got. Van Dijk, they've got Ake.
Speaker 3They've got David.
Speaker 1Van de Veen, they've got Fringpong on the wing, you know.
Speaker 3I forgot about Fringpong. You know, you on the wing, you know I forgot about Frimpong, you know. You know what I'm saying he's serious.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying. Xavi Simmonds in the hole, and then he had obviously got Gagpo and Depay trying to score goals. But to me, I've looked today and they've had a big blow. Frankie Deong and Cooper Miners are injured and they're out of the. I started off talking about controlling the ball and he's one of the best, isn't he?
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I was with my good friends where he says he's the highest paid player in Spain.
Speaker 3You know what I mean.
Speaker 1So that proves how top level Frankie De Jong is. Do you know what I mean? So, I can't go with the Netherlands unfortunately, netherlands unfortunately.
Speaker 3I think that's such a big blow. But the thing with the Netherlands, bro, like you, said they've got the best defense.
Speaker 1Yeah, and tournaments is, they're defensive. You know what I'm saying? A lot of control.
Speaker 3You know, if they had Frankie, I'd have them right in the dark horses, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I would know one and Cooper.
Speaker 1You know Cooper Miners, but I think there's teams where you're watching Cooper Miners for Atalanta. A lot of big teams Are interested in him.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, he scores a lot of goals.
Speaker 1He's box to box. He's the new. You know he's that. He's that type, you know he's that type of Bellingham. Yeah, yeah but obviously Because Bellingham, we're in England, bellingham's Bellingham.
Speaker 2Do you know what?
Speaker 1I'm saying to you yeah, so, but yeah, I'm going to go with Germany, I'm going to pick two, I'm going to go three. Actually I'm going to go Belgium, germany, because the Germans to me they're not even dark horses really, but I'm going to put them underneath because recently in tournaments they've not been delivering. But if you're asking me about midfield and control Tony Kroos, moussa Lala Witzel yeah, yeah that's control that's big business.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's control.
Speaker 2Rudiger at the back and at home as well, home tournament and home tournament yeah, big business, you've got Havertz.
Speaker 1Sane thing about this is why I don't think they're afraid, because Sane is so predictable unpredictable you don't know what you're going much more from leroy sana, but he doesn't seem to give you. So yeah, and I'm going for spain as diva dark horse because, like I said, one person, rodri rodri you know, yeah, but is he going to be able to? Rod you rodri rodri in this team. Bro, rodri rodri is a roger mate I I I put them in because of their, their whole squad.
Euro 2020 Squad Analysis and Predictions
Speaker 3You know what I'm going to be honest, I haven't watched Because, if I look at the main, squad.
Speaker 2I look at their centre backs. They've got Calvajal, nacho Laporte, and obviously the left back Ain't the greatest, but, cucurella, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3Yeah, but he's not. He's not bad, he's not End of the season. I'm not discrediting, but I'm saying Is he starting though? I didn't know he was starting. Yeah, he's starting you look at the midfield.
Speaker 2They're still taking. They got Pedri there.
Speaker 1But what I will say? I'm going to ask you a question all yours. Name me. Another good left back in the tournament.
Speaker 3Another good left back in the tournament.
Speaker 1Yes, that's the question I'm asking you. Luke Shaw has not been playing.
Speaker 3Yeah, but he's playing. Yeah, but you can't you know?
Speaker 1if you play football, you know you just can't come and play competitive games after four or five months and be up to top speed. That's borderline impossible, isn't it?
Speaker 2Mendy or France.
Speaker 1Nah, sorry, there is one top player, thierry Hernandez. Other than Thierry Hernandez, who's top I'm?
Speaker 2calling Mendy. You can't knock, he just Ferland.
Speaker 1Mendy doesn't play Over Thierry Hernandez. That's fact. Do you know what I mean? But you just asked.
Speaker 2I'm not saying You're talking about Top players. No, you're talking about Top players. Yeah, yeah, but he didn't play.
Speaker 1You know what I mean. What I'm saying is that Cucurello is good enough, at good enough standards, to win A European Championship. Remember who they had at left back? Do you remember? Emerson, yeah yeah. West Ham, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3Do you know?
Speaker 1what I mean, but you know what?
Speaker 3There's hardly any left backs anyway. That's what I'm saying, the argument about.
Speaker 1Kukurela is yo, he's good enough to do a job. Does he normally play left back? Yeah, he does play left back.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, of course, league, and when I think he's done a double, like this season he's done really well and with Spain, like I've said, like I've finished, let me finish Lamar, you know that's probably potential star of the tournament Lamar, lamar and Williams on the wing. That serious pace and creativity of high level and obviously with Pedri in there as well. That Stardust, pedri in there as well, that's Stardust. You know, pedri, he's Stardust. You know he's had a lot of injuries and whatever. But when you talk about technical ability, you know people talk about Foden, but they need to be watching Pedri. Do you know what I'm?
Speaker 3saying yeah, yeah, you know that's technical.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Technical. That's the thing with this tournament, bro. There's a lot of serious players, bro.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, who don't get the respect? There's a lot of serious young players this is the thing they're just scattered about.
Speaker 2There's a lot of young players on show, Even Yamao, who plays for Barca Like. You know what I mean, that's a. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3A lot of young 16.
Speaker 1There's a lot of young 200 million people are looking to pay for it.
Speaker 2You know what I mean. But they've got a billion buyout clause on them or something, and he starts Nico.
Speaker 1Williams is somebody who wow. Nico Williams is somebody who ain't at that level, but he's dangerous pace, power, great finish and obviously Morata, the old stage up front. He nicks a goal or two. Like I said, they're underneath the frames because, like I said, they're not you worry about what if one of them gets injured. You know you've got people like that's all it takes, bro, or? Rosie perez is in the squad they still got us to lose.
Speaker 2Man listen, they got a lot of salute. Yo absolutely coming through for against raven. Did you know? Yo, yo, so you gotta be careful. I mean you have to. Might not even start us, you might get that nod. I mean they might think careful. You know what I mean. Marata might not even start. Arsenal might get that nod you know what I mean they might be thinking yeah, you know what, you can do it for Real Madrid, you can do it for your country. It's true still.
Speaker 3It's true.
Speaker 2But why it's gonna be interesting, like I said. But, like I said, I think the top, the underdogs, are quite similar, because you've got Obviously Spain, because you've got obviously Spain, germany.
Speaker 1I think we've got the same Spain, belgium, belgium and Germany and Germany they're the ones under the three that we said. What did I say? Denmark?
Speaker 3and Croatia, nah, but I thought this was like proper, like yeah, nah you, you might have said top teams nah, but you might have said top teams bro. You might have said top teams Nah, nah, but you might have said top teams, bro you might have said Spain, germany. For underdog that's not underdog.
Speaker 2I said Serbia. I said Serbia, yeah, but like Same thing innit. I said Serbia. You know what I'm saying, though. I said Serbia, and I said Spain, but I can't. Spain's a top team bro, they're World Cup winners. But when I'm saying Spain yeah, I'm saying Spain I'm saying people don't even put if you look at the betting. Spain's not even in probably the top 10. They've probably got France, england.
Speaker 3Belgium.
Speaker 2Italy, netherlands, portugal, germany, so that's seven, so they're below all of them teams, isn't it? That's why I'm saying Spain's an underdog? Because I don't think anyone's looking at the Spain team and saying yo, there's some top players in there, yeah, but that's Spain.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2I hear that it's like Germany in the last World Cup. Everyone was like Even though Germany are home.
Speaker 1They're getting that home vote, aren't they? Nobody's really, you know, nobody's really respected them Like I said because we're in England, everybody's talking about England and, yes, like I said, england they're in the favourites you have to put for me you have to put them in the favourites because of some of the players, yeah, but I feel Germany, spain, italy. I mean, if I look back now, I might take England out and put Germany in.
Speaker 2So yeah, I'm going to do that. Don't start changing your ideas now you know what I mean. You had enough time to make these alright, alright, alright. You know what I mean. Germany is still in my tag team, make sure you remember.
Speaker 3I didn't have any time to think about these. These come off the top of my head but I still feel my dark horses would still be Denmark. Like I said, semifinals last time.
Speaker 1You know they've got the players. I'm not disagreeing, right, we're going to go with the winners. Now, who do you think is going to win Kubzi, the whole tournament, and why?
Speaker 3I feel like are going to win it bro why, the squad, the squad's crazy bro.
Speaker 1Talk us through it.
Speaker 3So what you got?
Speaker 1obviously, ronaldo, yes you still believe he can do it yeah, man, it's Ronaldo.
Speaker 3Bro, you know what I'm saying. This is last one, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is last one, yeah, yeah, you know you won't get no bigger.
Analysis of England's Euro Squad
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah from me. I do worry about the powers on the way you know. Wayne though even though I've always been his biggest fan 22 years of it, you know, yeah, it's crazy, 22 years. I remember when I was 17 and he was playing, and you know, I'm nearly 40, he's nearly 40, they're like yo, it's 22 years.
Speaker 3King. The thing is I don't watch him in Saudi or anything like that. You know what I'm saying. So I don't know how he's playing right now, but it's.
Speaker 1Ronaldo. Is there ever been a bigger thing on TV when he's on TV?
Speaker 3No, no, no, there's nothing like it no no, no, it's sport and entertainment, isn't it, yo? Highest level, top of top, top of top. You know what I'm saying. But, like I said, you've got Ronaldo, you've got Jota, we got I'm thinking United players first, obviously, dalot, yeah very much improved. Yeah, what's the youth's name from Fulham Paulinia?
Speaker 1Paulinia, yes already.
Speaker 3There's not, no, there's more, there's more. Who else man you got?
Speaker 1Neto Neto Rafael Leal yeah, leal, come on.
Speaker 3That's what I mean.
Speaker 1Bernardo Silva.
Speaker 3Bernardo Silva.
Speaker 1Bernardo Silva, ruben Diaz Diaz, yo Joao Cancelo. That's what I'm saying Junior Mendes.
Speaker 3Yo, this ultimate team, fifa ultimate team. You know what I'm saying. So it's proper things, bro. You know what? They've got a serious squad. Obviously, I haven't watched much of them. To say, you know, I like the style of play in Redhead because I watched a few highlights from them the other day, but I just got a feeling with that type of squad, there's no reason why you can't win the Euros with that type of squad, bro, like people are saying with England.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying, but I think they've got a better squad than England.
Speaker 3Yeah, 100%, 100, 100%, bro, and what and what.
Speaker 1Why I worry about England is the caps yeah, okay, you know, and it's a big. I put them in the favourites because I feel like they they will get through to the quarters.
Speaker 3Yeah do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1so I do think, I don't think England will have a problem getting through to the quarters. But I do worry about the ball retention and the caps and I worry about the goals. And you might say what do you mean about the goals? But I'm talking, you know. People like Foden have only scored three times for England. Bellingham's only scored three times for.
Speaker 3England. This is the thing. You haven't seen Foden turn up for England yet I was thinking that the other day. You know, you've got Palmer.
Speaker 1He's only had one couple caps, eze couple Caps, gordon couple Caps. These are Mainu. Mainu couple Caps.
Speaker 3It's a lot, isn't it To?
Speaker 1put on these players, and I always think with Declan Rice as well. I personally think Declan Rice is better next to a ball-playing, play-making defensive type player. I think he's a more all-round midfielder than a sitter.
Speaker 3So you play more in the eight.
Speaker 1I don't think he likes it and I don't think that he gets the best out of himself in that role. Yeah, yeah, so I also think he's when it comes to receiving the ball off the back off the defender and all them type of things. He ain't.
Speaker 3He ain't J Jorginho no, no, no, you know. And.
Speaker 1Jorginho, you know, is his partner at Arsenal. But they've got, they just know how to receive the ball play it, move it, play it. You know keeping things ticking over. Do you know what I?
Speaker 3mean yeah, but then the thing is, who else would you play in that position, in that squad?
Speaker 1but that's the problem, isn't it? Yeah there, you know, wharton Mainu, I love Mainu, but if you watch Mainu play you know, we're all man United fans. Yeah, kobe Mainu, he's got a style of football which you know. I remember Rio Ferdinand saying he's more Seedorf than Reb. If you remember Seedorf, seedorf played his best with who?
Speaker 1Pirlo yeah and what's not saying oh we ain't a top player, but I feel like you need somebody next to him. You can go one touch, two touch. One touch, two touch, because if everybody's taking two touch, defences get back into position and it's harder to break down. Do you know what I'm saying? Tim, yeah, yeah so that's, that's my thing, that's my worry with England, do you know?
Speaker 3what I mean. But then the thing is Mainu. I don't think Mainu will be starting like that anyway who do you think will? Start. What next to it next? To Rice what I would do. You mean, what I would do yeah yeah it's your opinion. I'd have Rice Bellingham Foden Okay.
Speaker 1I'd run it like that as a triangle yeah. So who's the ball player there then?
Speaker 3Well, more as like a Playing Foden, more as an attacker, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Pushing him up further.
Speaker 1You think Jude could do that role more as an attacker. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Pushing him up further, but Jude can do that role. Yeah. Yeah, you think he's out of sync in that role.
Speaker 3Yes, he probably would be, but I think he can play that role he might be.
Speaker 1So, being out of sync, you just think you just throw him in and yeah, but I feel like everyone's out of sync in.
Speaker 3Yeah, but I think all international teams are like that. They don't train together like that do they.
Speaker 1I'm a big believer in player profile.
Speaker 3Yeah, what do you mean, so like?
Speaker 1player profile is like you know what you're going to get from the player.
Speaker 3Okay, yeah, yeah, so with England.
Speaker 1They seem to the media now. They just play players and the players are just going to play well. Yeah, yeah, but the players are just going to play well, yeah, yeah, but the players don't give a certain type of player profile, which is required to help the other player.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, does that make sense, you?
Speaker 1know, like I big you know people used to talk about Calvin Phillips and why Southgate used to pick him.
Speaker 2It's a simple role.
Speaker 1Why he used to get picked?
Speaker 2He used to do the job.
Speaker 3He's a centre midfielder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know he ain't an attacker.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, he ain't a defence midfielder, he's just a centre midfielder.
Speaker 3Yeah, he plays his role, His trade is I know how to play centre midfield.
Speaker 1I don't take 20 touches of the ball. I just play a couple touches. I can play it. He in the Euros, he was the player of the tournament for England, nah, but I don't think it's going to be a big miss.
Speaker 2I wouldn't say it's a big miss, but the problem, I think who would you rather in that role, jude or?
Speaker 1yeah, but Jude, remember Jude went to the Euros. You know, yeah, but this is yeah, but Jude. But still, the player profile of Jude is box to box.
Speaker 2I just think that England just don't have, like he was saying about player profile, players which actually play in the system they play. So, everyone's asking and, like I was saying to someone earlier about England, think their golden boys are really golden, but they're not golden Like Rooney was a golden talent.
Discussion on England's Euro 2020 Squad
Speaker 2You could take Rooney to the Euros, and he performed on his own. I look at Foden, who people call the golden boy. I look at Parma and I don't see them going against the big boys France, portugal, spain, italy, netherlands. Any of them are saying you know what? I'm going to batter these players because international football is completely different to club football. I think club managers are managing the squad every day, so they're getting the best system out of them, but these, yes, yes, I agree, oh yeah, yeah, 100% when it comes to international they don't.
Speaker 2that's why Ronaldo is going to Portugal, is in the Portugal squad, because the manager knows you can score goals still. But I don't think, and everyone else, they know their role. Like, if Ronaldo's playing, everyone knows that's the role we're going to play Rear, tear, tear.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2But then if they put Ramos up front, they know that they've got a new system to play. Yeah, yeah, but that's why I feel like, with a lot with the England squad, they don't have their players, what they have, who are great individuals, I don't think they're great as a collective.
Speaker 3Yeah, but remember, this is a new squad innit. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying England's going to win this thing, but I don't think they are.
Speaker 1We do talk about England, you know we are English. I think it's good that we talk about them. I think it's good that we explain.
Speaker 2I don't even know if they're favourites, I mean.
Speaker 3but two of us did. I feel like I have to put them in my favourites.
Speaker 2I hear that but to have them as top three. I just don third in this tournament, yeah, but I think it's very possible.
Speaker 3It's very possible, it's very possible.
Speaker 1Like I said, I think you know I've looked at. If they top the group, they play one of the third place teams as well.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1You know whoever's in the group. So they've got a chance to get nicely into the semifinals quarters. You know what I'm saying. Underdogs, yeah, but, like I said, denmark and Serbia, and I think underdogs could do it, and that group is not as easy as what it's meant to be, but, and obviously at the back as well, it's a problem, isn't it?
Speaker 3England definitely bro, I mean.
Speaker 1Esri Konza yeah. Mark Geyi. Good players, yeah, they're good players overhyped. No good players overhyped. No good players overhyped, but to go to your.
Speaker 2No one does it ever.
Speaker 3England have always had top.
Speaker 1I feel like they're top players England's always had top defenders, haven't they top, top or top John?
Speaker 3Terry Ferdinand Maguire's gonna be a big miss. Oh, huge, massive, huge, big, big miss. Scores goals as well. Yeah, mag, that's what you need and Stones is very injury-prone. Yeah, didn't he have a knock the other day?
Speaker 1Yeah, and he's very injury-prone. I'm sure he's not playing. Trippier looks hot. I mean, I know what I'd personally do in the squad. You said you didn't finish off with your front three. Sorry, you didn't finish off with your front three.
Speaker 3My front three for England.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3So you said you're so Kane up front yes um Saka on the right and see in a different set up. I play Felden on the wing yeah, you know what I'm saying. He played in midfield, yeah but then you got to speak up. I don't rate Gordon bro he's a good player, he's a good player, but I don't think he's the guy Definitely not in Rashford, though.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely not in Rashford, though how are you going to leave Rashford and take Gordon? Bro? There's some disrespect. There's some disrespect, massive disrespect, because you know what it's disrespect for me and I get the chance to talk about it. He hardly scores any goals for France, or he hardly scores any goals for Paris. Saint-germain but you know what?
Speaker 3France wouldn't drop him. You can't drop that calibre of player.
Speaker 1You know what?
Speaker 3I'm saying England's best performances.
Speaker 1The last year Rashford been involved. He's been starting Italy 3-1 at home. Rashford, Bellingham, Foden that was the front three and Kane. You know when they beat when they went to Scotland away from home and I thought it was a great performance against Scotland away from home at Hampden really good attacking performance.
Speaker 3You know like.
Speaker 1Rashford, again Bellingham, foden, kane you know, I think them three players actually like playing with each other yeah yeah, they've played with each other before. A good few times and played well. I like Grealish.
Speaker 3Yeah, he shouldn't have been left either. Really, though, bro.
Speaker 1What I'm trying to say about this is this bias thing, because people saying yo, everybody's going to miss Grealish, grealish, don't start games for England, where's the evidence of Grealish starting games for England. He's played more subs appearances than anyone and he's only scored two goals for England, so how is he going to be missed over Rashford?
Speaker 3Oh, over Rashford, definitely Rashford's got 17 goals for. England 17. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1Sterling, got you know. Sterling and Rashford are the two goals, the most goals in the Southgate under Kane.
Speaker 3Oh, they're still now Sterling and Rashford over Grealish and Gordon Goals. You know what I'm saying and who you got on the back. I haven't done my front three. Did I say all my front three?
Speaker 1No, sorry, sorry. What did I say?
Speaker 3Saka Kane.
Speaker 1You wanted to play Foden, didn't?
Speaker 3you, yeah. So who else we got on the left wing? We've got Gordon. What other wingers we got? We've got Palmer can play on the wing. Do you play right wing now?
Speaker 1innit, yeah we can adapt, maybe I would put Palmer in the team.
Speaker 3To be fair, am I missing any of the wingers? I'm not, anyway, eze, eze, yeah, I don't know if I'd start my man at the moment, bro, I think I'd rather start Palmer over him yeah, so you'd go.
Speaker 1What with Bowen? Jarrod Bowen? So I mean a man like that getting in the squad? Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, he's one of the few players I can guarantee that never comes on.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's not going to. I don't think he'll ever come on, you know Leicester.
Speaker 1England have won them two. Leicester England won them two games. You know at the start in the group and then in the third game. You know they rotate and they bring.
Speaker 2He will not get a game won't, no, and that's why I can't believe he's been taken. Yeah, but that's the craziest thing, isn't it? That's why I I can't have them in my favorites, because you're looking at the england squad, galaga war and wharton, I mean like like a player, yeah, but come on like it's an experience. Yeah, but these are new guys bro like you're looking to say england, like, even though people are saying about henderson and whatnot like that's experience.
Speaker 2Like if you're looking to say England, like, even though people are saying about Henderson and whatnot, like that's experience. Like if you're looking at their average age off their midfield, it's 23. I mean it's a young squad, even though their whole team is a young squad. You know what I mean. They've got very young, inexperienced players, like you were looking at. Like said Bowen, he's 27, bowen. You know what I mean yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Them man ain't even kicked their international ball before. You know what I mean like, and even when you watch them play against Iceland, they look shambolic you know what I mean.
Speaker 1I'm not gonna name him shambolic. That's harsh, that's harsh. Listen, not shambolic it.
Speaker 2It's maybe not at the level we're quite, but that's the level, though if I'm watching you, if I'm watching you, it's like it's like being at man United if you're not performing, you're playing poorly. Yeah, but that's too harsh nah, it's not for me.
Speaker 1I look at everything, like yo.
Speaker 3I look at it and say yo, you want to hope the man don't listen to the show you know what?
Speaker 2I mean, I just look at everything, it's just not what. I just look at England's squad and say If Saka gets injured or Kane gets injured, they're in trouble Goals. They're in trouble Goals. Because I don't Even though people are talking about Parma, I like him Foden I like him, I don't think they're going to score goals.
Speaker 3I think this tournament Foden might be.
Speaker 2Might be one of the Star boys, yeah, but.
Speaker 3It's his time now. I feel, yeah, I hear that. I hear that.
Speaker 2He's had a good season.
Speaker 3He's had a good season. How old is?
Speaker 2Foden.
Speaker 1About 24, now 24 Big old Big age that's.
Speaker 2Experienced player, that is.
Speaker 3Been to the Euros In this day and age Been to the World.
Speaker 2Cup, that's an experienced player.
Speaker 3Yeah, but yeah. But look at Mbappé, he wasn't, he wasn't starting, he started against he got.
Speaker 1He started against in the Euros, didn't he a few games?
Speaker 3yeah, but I feel like in the World.
Speaker 1Cup, remember it was. It was it was.
Speaker 3Foden.
Speaker 1Saka Bellino, if you remember.
Speaker 2Kane against France, and then they paid poorly, didn't they?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah do you know what I mean? And yeah, that was that was the team.
Speaker 2The thing about it is is that these players have like because he's playing.
Speaker 1Henderson, if you remember, and Henderson played really well, didn't he in the World Cup? Really because, like I said, he just I think player profile is important. I keep stressing, you know what.
Speaker 3I would have bought Henderson, you know that's what I'm saying, just for that? Yeah, because I'm looking at this squad now. Yeah, it's not a very experienced squad, is it, man Not?
Speaker 1very experienced.
Speaker 3Not at all, and the midfield don't look too amazing Midfield's very bare, very bare.
Speaker 2If you're looking at the experience of winners as well. Yeah, you're looking at only really Walker, trippier Stones.
Speaker 1I worry that, may Newman, because obviously they've brought Trent in. But I mean, this is how mad it is, yeah. Trent is meant to be playing centre midfield but how can he play centre midfield but he don't even play there for Liverpool?
Speaker 3I was just about to say why is Trent in the midfield on here?
Speaker 1But they're desperate to play him. Yeah, but why he's never played?
Speaker 2there, yeah, that's what he played there once or twice for Liverpool, didn't he? They have no creativity in that midfield.
Speaker 1No, it's not creativity, it's keeping the ball moving Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2That's why he's meant to be playing. No, because they're looking at what they've done for the Sorry.
Speaker 1Against Iceland but he got the shirt. Before that he was in the squad as a midfielder. You know Southgate's plans to play Trent in midfield but, like I said, you know it's a big yeah. Like I said, I agree with everything you've said about my opinion in England is what I've said you know. If you're asking me what I think the starting line-up's going to be, let me tell you this now. This is my starting line-up's going to be. Let me tell you this now this is my starting line-up for the first game. Pick for the goal I'm playing Kyle Walker left-back.
Speaker 3Left-back. Left-back.
Speaker 1Why is Trippier playing left-back but Kyle Walker can't play left-back? I'm playing Trent Arnold right-back Because that's where he plays. If you've seen the goal when he come on and scored against Bosnia, where was Trent playing Right back? You can't have two 34-year-olds playing at the back and looking to get forward. It doesn't work like that does it.
Speaker 3Yeah, but how does Trent match up against some of these wingers in this?
Speaker 1I'm talking about starting the first game. Trent's playing right back for me with Walker left back. I'm going with Stones and Gehi. I like Mark Gehi. There's nothing wrong with him, but there's unexperience there. He's solid. He'll do a good job In midfield. I'm going to go with, even though it might sound a bit like you're worried about it because the options are so bare. I'm going with Rice and Mainu. But the thing about Mainu, I will tell him which he does like at man United and I watch a lot of game discipline. Kobe doesn't pick up runners because he so wants to play football.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So I'd ask him, and I'd be working with him for the last week and a half and I would say to him Kobe, kobe, sorry, just stay in your position and play, because you know he can do that if you ask him, but because he wants to play and get on the ball a lot.
Speaker 3He just forgets where he is sometimes. Do you know what I mean? That's why you can't play him in the six, like they were trying to do before. But I think if you can, teach him.
Speaker 1You know, he's young, isn't?
Speaker 3he, yeah, yeah, that's what, yeah, you know, like, you know, like it's moldable, it's cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know just teaching.
Speaker 1You know Tangard struggled to teach and Southgate, you know, might be able to say after a week of trading, just sit, just play. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and I'm going to go with Bellingham in front with 10. Okay, yeah, forward and left wing. What that does lack is pace, obviously, but you hope that the front four can connect.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Obviously, you know we're big Rashford fans I am but yeah, his form's been bad, but it's his player profile that's going to be missed. Dem runs in behind, dem threatening in behind. Because if he threatens in behind, what does Kane like to do now? Kane don't like to sit up front he likes to go into the hole.
Speaker 3Well, that's what I was about. Literally just about to say I didn't want to cut you, but um, if I was going to play that attack, like you just said, it wouldn't happen. But I'll drop kane and play ollie watkins instead but that's a good option.
Speaker 1But you can see what you mean about the player profile you want somebody to to stretch him behind don't you.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah. To create space for the top player, Because you've got Bellingham there as well. He's going to be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Bellingham will make a big difference to the team.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
England Team Selection Analysis
Speaker 1Because his work rate is exceptional. You know he is box to box at our highest level, you know what. I mean At the highest level. So that's what I'd go with. I do worry about, like I said, the lack of the lack of a playmaker and the lack of dynamism up front. You know it's a big worry for me, but yeah, that's what, that's my theme. What's your team selection for?
Speaker 2England. So you standardly go pick foot and goal Walker right back, left back, left back starts Shaw, even if he's injured, while coming back from injuries.
Speaker 1you just you've taken yeah, he's out. He's injured.
Speaker 2No, he's back no, he's back training.
Speaker 1Ok, he's back training today straight back in.
Speaker 2He's back training with Stones as well and yeah, stones and Shaw are back training today. So you go Shaw left back. You'd go Stones and I go Dunk because Stones and I go Dunk because you want some. You know what I mean, dunk.
Speaker 1Lewis.
Speaker 3Dunk for who you're.
Speaker 2You're over Gahee. Oh, fair enough, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3Stones and Dunk.
Speaker 2He's in the squad because you're getting Gahee, but he's inexperienced. He's not really everyone's talking about this season and last season, but really and truly so what's Dunk's experience? They've been European football. They've been playing European football Brighton okay have they not? Yeah, yeah, dunk Gay, he has not had no levels to be tested that's true so Dunk is an experienced, experienced, 32 year old centre back okay so he will know how to play football there.
Speaker 2Yeah, so that's why I go Gahee, Even though Gahee can play and whatever. I just think if you've not got the players, you've got Stones there. Who's going to drift with the ball. I think Donk is going to be a good centre-back to read the game smartly, not get caught out, but is he quick? Enough. He's not, but, like I said, he's quick enough. But that's why you've got Shaw and Fingy to cover.
Speaker 1Shaw's not fit.
Speaker 2Like I said, shaw team you carry on, but they're there if they've gone to the Euros, they're fit enough alright, you go my midfield would be.
Speaker 2You'd have to just basically go as a Rice and Mainu, because I think you're looking at the squad. There's not really other options. Like you said, you'll get one of them to sit and one of them to go, and then, if everyone wants to go, that one sits and they just have to communicate. If they don't communicate, that's going to be a big issue for their centre-backs, where you might be thinking about Stones and don't get caught out because, like Stones like to do for man City and Southgate might do the same thing. I want Stones to come travelling with the ball, so one of them will have to understand the art of sitting. I think Bellingham will be the 10th, because I think Bellingham has been playing as a false 10, false 9 for Real Madrid. So, as Kane is dropping in deep Bellingham throws that pocket, it will go long.
Speaker 2But Bellingham will find that pocket and get in behind, which will possibly give England goals, Because defenders will be thinking we know what Harry Kane's going to do, but then they're going to have to worry about. Okay, if we follow Kane, there's a hole, so that's why, I think Bellingham has to be the 10. Because Foden can't play that 10-roll he doesn't have the dynamism Because he hasn't got no one to play the ball to in front of him. So that's why because if Kane's dropping deep, foden's not smart enough to make them.
Speaker 1No, no, that's the wrong way of putting it. He ain't got the dynamism to keep doing it.
Speaker 3But to make them he's smart enough.
Speaker 2No, but to make them run.
Speaker 1That's an attacking run you can't say Foden ain't intelligent no, I'm not saying to make that, of course you can't say I'm not saying the attacking run.
Speaker 2The attacking run is him saying yo Kane's dropped deep.
Speaker 1I'm gonna make that run to stretch the pitch. That run is somebody you know like, because when you play at a high level when you play football, it's like some people just want the ball yeah, yeah it's very hard for people who like the ball to run without the ball. Yeah, yeah and that's where Bellinorm and that's why I said it's not intelligent it's his player profile, that's how he plays.
Speaker 2That's how he plays. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1to be in that hole and I just had to quote it. Of course he's intelligent.
Speaker 2No, no, no. We're not saying he's not a smart footballer but to do that role of running in behind he's not that smart enough to do that job. And if you're saying that's what I'm trying to say about the smart, I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 1You just said not smart, that's when you say player profile.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying, but to do that role If you ask why I say it's player profile?
Speaker 1Because if you said to Bellingham and Foden, I want you to do 10 box to box runs each, yeah, and you start at the same time, I'm guarantee you that Bellingham no, but that's, that's fitness.
Speaker 2That's, no, that's fitness. That's, but that's the player profile. No, that's fitness, but I'm saying Bellingham.
Speaker 1That's Fellen will want the ball at his feet. Yeah, Some players are fitter than some of us.
Speaker 2Yeah, but we're not talking about fitness. Yeah, yeah, of course I'm not talking about fitness. I'm talking about Some players play on their fitness more than some don't they? No, no, foden wants the ball, doesn't he? But Foden won't make them run.
Speaker 3Foden doesn't want to be without the ball does he no, no.
Speaker 1What did you say about Watkins and Kane? Yeah, yeah, I was playing Because Kane wants to. What?
Speaker 3Drop deep. Yeah, he wants to drop deep and Watkins wants to. What? Because he likes to make the runs behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2But that's not how.
Speaker 1I'm not saying you're bad, but the word. What you're saying is not intelligent, but it is smart. It is smart, that's his game.
Speaker 2We were. You can't say he's not intelligent, no, no, no, he's not smart enough to do them runs. Even if he's not smart enough To do them runs, you have to be smart. What do you reckon, chubbs?
Speaker 1You have to be smart to make them runs.
Speaker 2He's not smart a good enough word.
Speaker 3I hear what you're saying. I just want to know what he says.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's smart, but it's smart really, to make them run, you have to be smart.
Speaker 2I agree with what you're saying if you look at top strikers who made them run, they're smart, they play on the last shoulder, they know when to make the run. Foden doesn't play that game. So to play in that role which you was talking about, reisel, maino, and how you get them to play in that role, if they're not, if you can't play that role, you're not smart enough to play in that role you're talking about, when he was talking about Bellingham in that thing.
Speaker 1I just think the word not smart for top players is do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3like no, no, it's definitely the wrong wording. Definitely listen, I understand what you're saying I agree.
Speaker 2Like I said, me personally, I don't think he's smart enough to do it, that's.
Speaker 3I'm going to stand by that. You know what?
Speaker 2In a way, you could Not me you could pull it that way. I don't think you could pull it that way If Kane was dropping deep.
Speaker 1I'll tell you.
Speaker 2I've been having a lot of phone calls about this Listen, if Kane was dropping deep, I don't think Foden would naturally think there's space. Yes, a smart thing this is what I'm saying. You could put it that way because you've got to read the game but if your but.
Speaker 3Ben and Gordon will be smart enough if your style of football, isn't that?
Speaker 1that's why we're talking about Rashford, because Rashford's style of football isn't.
Speaker 2I really want to play but I think that's what I'm saying, but I think Rashford and Sterling look at the team he plays in, but Rafa and Sterling would make that run if Kane dropped these. But I think the simple thing is.
Speaker 3Do you know what I'm trying to say?
Speaker 2That's the smart about seeing that the man's left the game. Watch your strength, and then you've got to watch your strength.
Speaker 1Yeah, obviously your strength is to get the ball.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1My strength is to run in behind.
Speaker 3Yeah. My weakness is? I don't, yeah, but if you've got the opportunity and you're in the packing and you're on that 10 roll.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's football IQ innit. So what about Zidane then?
Speaker 1So what about Zidane? Yeah, would you expect Zidane to be making box-to-box runs.
Speaker 2Nah, then anyway, 10 is not a box to box. Playing in that 10 role Is not a box to box run. That's just saying Yo, there's space, I'm going to get into that space.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2And I'm just saying Foden, and it was Same thing what happened Against Iceland. Foden and Kane Were stuck to each other In the central areas and they couldn't break down because Foden didn't understand. I need to get out of this pocket maybe if you watch the game all Foden was doing was getting the ball couldn't turn, so pop it back. He didn't think. You know what. Let me drift out and then take a player out with me so it creates because he's used to playing in that city system.
Speaker 3Though you know what I'm saying. That's what it is is that.
Speaker 2Kane's fault. Is that Kane not being football intelligent? No, no, no, no, no. So did Kane have to know?
Speaker 1that he's with a man who doesn't play. Oh yeah, no, no, did that make sense to you?
Speaker 3yeah, but then we're going to every different it could be a domino effect then to every position to the man next to him or whatever.
Speaker 2What's a free roam position? Yeah so it's not Kane position fault, it's Foden's fault for not thinking it's too dangerous in here.
Speaker 3Let me try and yeah, but then then this is where it comes down to who you're playing in your team, bro, because if you've got two players that are clashing, yes, it don, and this is why. Play a pro for yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I'll say it again.
Speaker 1I said it from the start it's play a pro for, but that's why, like I said, that's why I'd have to belly bump after 10.
Speaker 2Anyway. So I think your striker has to be Kane. You know what I mean, even though he's the only goal-proven person in yes.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, so like and he's the captain.
Speaker 2And he's captain. Yes, obviously he's got to start Saka yeah On the right and you go Foden on the left.
Speaker 3Yeah, see, I was feeling to play Foden on the left. Did I put Foden on the left?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and all I'd ask him to do Is to just be, and just be like a free roll.
Speaker 1I've actually seen Foden.
Speaker 2You know what?
Speaker 3The only reason I didn't put Foden on the left is because I don't think we should start Mainu.
Speaker 1Yeah, there is that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3But the thing about it is, because yo if you didn't start Mainu, what would your midfield be? But that's the problem. You'd put Foden in your midfield.
Speaker 1But I don't think Nah.
Speaker 3I would never put Fodor as a centre mid.
Speaker 2I've never put Fodor as a centre mid.
Speaker 3No, no, but what I'm saying?
Speaker 2because I wouldn't even put Benninger as a centre mid If I played Mainu it'd be the same as your squads. Yeah.
Speaker 3Do you know what I'm saying? I just think that If you took Mainu out, who would you put there?
Speaker 2You see that I'll put Gallagher.
Speaker 1I'll put.
Speaker 3But Gallagher's I mean, I've watched him play for England.
Speaker 1He's looked. You can see the fans are looking at him. He gets the ball. He's so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2He's a trier. Yeah, that's it, he's a trier. He's a trier Foden to do that job in midfield for England.
Speaker 1You know the best player in midfield. I don't think it is, you know, the best play at midfield.
Speaker 3but the problem is, like I said, it's so inexperienced yeah, this is the thing, but that's why I'm thinking of Maneu.
Speaker 1You can't start him either, but Maneu when you play for man, you know you support man United, man United and Crystal. Palace expectations it's a different level and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2And rare the man scored against City In the final.
Speaker 1You know that final In the world. I reckon on that day that probably would have been the most watched thing on TV.
Speaker 3Yeah, would you agree?
Euro 2021 Squad Analysis and Predictions
Speaker 1Yeah, probably you know the FA Cup final man City versus man United. I think that would have been One of the most watched, most watched things in the world that day. Yeah, and Kobe scored and was banning the match. So when you?
Speaker 2say I've got players in the tournament.
Speaker 1You know, what I mean when you say.
Speaker 3No, I'm not saying the pressure, though, but I'm saying he's coming up against.
Speaker 1He plays for man United, doesn't he?
Speaker 3Yeah, but he's still.
Speaker 1When you play for man United and you're playing, remember the man's not. You might say man United come eighth, but even when he plays for England he doesn't look like he's nervous.
Speaker 3I'm worried about his game development yeah, this is what I'm saying. He's inexperienced, so for him to go into the Euros and start every game, bro, is crazy bro. But that's the or most games. But why did the?
Speaker 1manager, not bring no one. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Phillips or Henderson yes they're not Henderson, not Phillips.
Speaker 1I think Henderson they're not playing well but that's experience, you know you can't buy it, mate like I said, so you're on the right that's a good debate about England, so yeah.
Speaker 2So, like I said, I think that's got to be the squad. I think, like I said, if we're talking about, like I said, belongonga as a CM, I just can't see him wanting to do that role and like.
Speaker 1I feel like, and being disciplined. We talk about.
Speaker 2Mainu being undisciplined. I think he would be very undisciplined he's like a walker if he gets caught out, he's got the pace and the energy to get back. But I feel like he will just get caught out too easily. Like, even if you look at the Real Madrid, when he plays for Real Madrid, he's not in them areas he's not to be a 10.
Speaker 1Listen, don't be surprised. I watched the semi-final against Bayern Munich and Madrid played. He was playing left wing for Madrid. They went with Rodrigo up front. They played four in midfield Bellin on left wing, Fran Verdi he's one of them players.
Speaker 3I feel like he could just play he could play anywhere, and that's the problem. That's going to be a problem.
Speaker 1That next year. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about clubs there, we're talking about, but obviously I'm just saying where's your left wing?
Speaker 2you can put Foden there and then I'll just ask him to talk inside.
Speaker 2Allow the left back to bump forward and then he can then play more centrally and have that creative spark there, but not play so wide. But then you're asking Saka to stretch it and obviously then yeah, obviously kane's gonna drop deep. And then you are say to bellingham find the pockets and the holes in in behind in it, yeah. And then you're not saying to bellingham, I want you to play, you got kane foden in them in that middle area coming inside to play, and then bellingham can be that second goal for it yeah, but do you think that's where you get the best out of Bellingham now In that position?
Speaker 2Yeah, because look what he's done for Real Madrid Scored what 17 goals.
Speaker 3Yeah, but then you remember, real Madrid is still Tony Cruz. I hear that. Come on, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're talking about different kinds of players, aren't we?
Speaker 2But what I'm trying to say is that he's been playing there this season, so his confidence will be in that position. If he gets told to come to England and say I want to go sit in the midfield and just sit and play with the ball, he'll be thinking did you not watch me all season?
Speaker 3Yeah, but then it depends how Southgate plays. He can play in that position and attack. You know what I'm saying. You know what? If he?
Speaker 2plays centre mid. You're going to have to tell one of their midfielders you're sitting all game. I don't think he wants to. I think you need two. I don't think he wants to.
Speaker 1I think most teams will. I watched the Iceland goal and what shocked me about the Iceland goal and people say this this is why it's. I might be contradicting myself, but I've got to tell it how I see it. Mainu and Rice were playing midfield. Rice was playing like number eight role. Mainu was sort of playing like six and eight. The one pass in where they should be one of them. They threw on goal. The man passed it to the left winger. The left winger come in shot goal. That's too easy and all that boils down to is player positioning really.
Speaker 3But then that's why Mainu shouldn't be the deciding vote.
Speaker 1But then Rice really shouldn't have been out of position. Yeah yeah, that was my worry about Declan Rice. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I think they were just so fixated of trying to break down Iceland because they just lost their discipline and discipline is.
Speaker 1You know these tournaments. That's what I say about player profile. You know certain player profile people. Rodri will know when to go, when not to go. You know he ain't that. He's got that football intelligence to say you know it's my time to sit Tony. Crows.
Speaker 3Experience, Jorginho, you know these type of players you know, they will know.
Speaker 1Nah, it's not. We can be patient here, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2but anyway, tobias, so you've got who's your winners, my winner, I think I'm going to agree with what Coppazee said and say Portugal. I think, as we all know, they still have the, the man, the god, the, the invincible, the dynamo, the, the, the invincible, the dynamo, the superstar, the man who just doesn't want to stop, and even today he scored two goals.
Speaker 3You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's two goals. You know what I?
Speaker 2mean First game back for Portugal and you bag two goals. People say ah washed.
Speaker 3I say watch him you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Two goals, first game back. And their midfielders they've got young midfielders who are coming up on their top level that Jao Neves.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, you love to see him at United you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2They've got the beast in the centre-back in Pepe, but he don't even play.
Speaker 3Yeah, I didn't know if he was playing. Is he playing?
Speaker 1They've got them two youngsters, haven't they? They've got that Antonio Silva, haven't they?
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And they've got that sporting defender, left-wit, left-sider and they've got Pepe. They've got real serious options at the back.
Speaker 3How old's Pepe, like 40, 41? Same age as.
Speaker 2Ronaldo.
Speaker 1See, now he performs as Arsenal, don't he? You know what I?
Speaker 2mean Like they've got. You know what. I mean Know-how. You know what?
Speaker 1I'm saying you know how, know-how.
Speaker 2And even if Ronaldo doesn't want to play, they've got Ramos they've got Jota.
Speaker 3You know what I mean. That's what I mean. They've got a serious squad. That's proper teams and they've got experience.
Speaker 2Like talking about a minute ago, and I might have been forgetting Felix and Liao as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, and some of these men weren't even start. Yeah, pedro Neto, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1Everyone says to me about yo Pedro Neto to me is the best one-on-one player in potentially well. Lamar was really good at it as well, but when it take on obviously you've got Vinicius as well, obviously but he's right up there in the top five in the world of football for me one on one. I isolate a full back.
Speaker 3I'm blowing past you and I'm doing it time and time again he plays on the right, he plays on the right, and both, he plays both like I said, we're not even talking about their flipping old school. They've got Paulinia yeah, yeah, big man linked with.
Speaker 2Man United. Right about now, man United nah, he's looking everything's open, everything's open.
Speaker 1Nah no, he's rejected him rejected the 30 mil.
Speaker 2They want 60.
Speaker 3Man.
Speaker 2United are saying we might meet you somewhere in the middle. Nah, he's gone Bayern nah, nah, nah nah, he's not gone. Nah, he's still for real. They rejected him, so not. Then you still got Bernardo Silva If we got him.
Speaker 3That would be good.
Speaker 1People forget about Bernardo Silva. This is what I would love to say about Bernardo. This is where English bias comes into it.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Bernardo Silva is better than Bernardo. People would say is Foden better than Bernardo Silva? I would say what are you talking about? I wouldn't say that John me, but everyone in England would. Oh yeah, but now the silver.
Speaker 3English boy. A sentence by this boy you know, but now does.
Euro 2020 Golden Boot Predictions
Speaker 2Silver is level and I want to say one other person, yeah, who's been a rock for Portugal anyway? Don't know, though Not me. My man's been a part of that squad.
Speaker 1I think he's part of the squad. I don't think he plays.
Speaker 2No, but he's been a rock, he's been a part of them. When they needed him on that pitch, yeah, to say yo shut everything down. Boom boom, boom boom, he's come on. I remember when they won the National Nations League and that he was a rock. You know what I mean. But they've got better options.
Speaker 1They've got that experience that experience, it's that know-how, and what we're going to find with Portugal this tournament is that Martinez is an attacking minded manager, so he the handbrake Ain't on with these players now they are full throttle Going through.
Speaker 3You didn't mention Bruno, then as well, listen you, let my man lose.
Speaker 2And my man can be. Don't have to defend and say I can do what I want.
Speaker 1Listen, you've gone with Portugal. It's a hat trick for me.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, it's Portugal for me. Yeah, yeah and I think potentially Bruno.
Speaker 1I've always loved him. Yeah, but he's infuriated at Manchester United. Yeah, because his discipline is really bad. Yeah, he runs around, he leaves big gaps.
Speaker 3I feel like he has to do that at man United though, bro, but what I'm saying to you is Joe Paulinho will cover that now.
Speaker 1Oh, 100% At man United you know and Vitinha you know. Vitinha, you know, was in the Champions League team of the year Paris Saint-Germain. What is Sanjuman?
Speaker 3what is?
Speaker 1he, he's a player profile. He just keeps the ball moving, knows his position and you know when Portugal, you know when they're coming against teams like England, they'll become. You know when they've got 11 man behind the ball, you need that player that just goes tick, tick, tick, tick, and him and Bernardo Silva and Vitinha, them two will be just ticking, ticking, ticking waiting for that opening and what they got. Now you talk about over player profile. On the left wing they'll have Liao, and Liao is one of the most exciting players. I mean, I've already talked about Neto, but when we talk about pure excitement, liao is right up there. When you don't know about real pace, Liao's right up there.
Speaker 1Do you know what? I mean, so they've got you know, when you say Player profile Of different pieces To make the Best food in the world, they've got All little nice pieces that yo, this dish is lovely, do you know?
Speaker 3what I'm saying to you Now imagine, imagine what you just said. Then All them attackers, yeah, big Portugal, and they're coming at Stones Gueye. Listen, listen An Jones Gueye listen listen unfit Shaw, listen out of form listen Kyle Walker.
Speaker 1We all know what Bernardo Silva's done to Shaw in the past. It's been criminal. The only hope is that Walker's got Walker's playing centre-back and catch him with pace well that's the only way, man.
Speaker 3They say Walker's sitting centre-back. Yeah, trust, that's the only way man. They walk, they sit in centre-back.
Speaker 2yeah, trust me, catch them.
Speaker 3That's the only way they're going to win, listen, listen, but he's been out of form, ain't he bud yeah, Like I said so, portugal is a hat-trick Right.
Speaker 1The next one we're going to go for is your top scorer, so you're going. That was off, kubzy. Who do you fancy for the Golden Boom?
Speaker 3Do you know what? I didn't even think about this too much, I'm happy to go if you want me to go. Yeah, you go, you go. Let me have a little drink.
Speaker 2And I'm going to go with the man again.
Speaker 3Yeah, cr7. Cr7, yeah. Top scorer.
Speaker 2I'm looking at their groups and I'm seeing at least a hat-trick.
Speaker 1I'm seeing Turkey.
Speaker 2I'm seeing at least two goals. Then I'm seeing Czech Republic. I'm seeing at least a goal. So I'm seeing goals.
Speaker 1You think about Portugal. You can smile at penalties they love a penalty.
Speaker 2They love it and, like I said, I'm looking at their group, I'm looking at everyone else's group and I'm thinking you've got tough games in there. There's at least one tough game in each group. Um, that's not mean, except for baldrum not mean. That's the only other team. I'm looking at their groups and saying you haven't really got tough games, so you're gonna have like tight wins in because they top, they get one in the third place.
Speaker 2Now I'm on about the group, the group stages yeah. So I'm saying they're not in Belgium's group. No, I'm saying, except for Belgium's group, oh, yes, yes, sorry, all them other groups are. So you're looking at like 1-0s, 2-1s I don't see no teams running in a ray, unless you're playing like you've got sleep on hungry. No, no, no. But obviously what I'm trying to say? They're not recognized teams. Yes, but I feel like they will want to prove themselves in them type of groups. Looking at baldrums and portugal groups, they're all just going to be happy with second or third some of them teams and saying, yeah, you know, just win the group, you might win the group. Batter us, we'll beat the other teams so I'm going to go for my man CR7.
Speaker 1Okay, you ready, Cubs. Or do you want me to go? You go.
Speaker 3You go Right.
Speaker 1I've got, I've got, I've got, I'm going to give you a group of players.
Speaker 3you know, no, you can't do that, I can give you a little group.
Speaker 1I can give you a little group. I can give you a group, I can.
Speaker 3I could give you a group, I could say the back name of the park.
Speaker 2I don't know People are listening Harry Kane.
Speaker 1I thought I was going to say I'm going to drop that man there name. You got to pick the one. No, no, that man's got to come true. All right, toss, sorry, yeah, all right then. So we're going to go with it. I'm going to go with fancy Lukaku, but Lukaku top scorer, yeah I fancy.
Speaker 1Lukaku. The group's lovely. You know he takes the. Belgium's built for him. You know that group there Romania, slovakia, ukraine it's built for Romelu. Do you know what I mean? He's in pretty good nick, he's fit, you know. Yeah, I'm going to go with Lukaku. You know he's proven at international level. I just think that it's you know, by the time they might get out of the tournament. You know, because sometimes these players can have six goals just in the group stages, can't they? You know they get to the quarterfinals. They've got five or six. Usually they don't usually get more than five or six to win the Golden Boot. Do you know what I?
Speaker 3mean that to win the gold the boot.
Speaker 1Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's all it takes. You know what I mean With that group and I do think Ronaldo's right there as well with that group as well, but I'm just going to go with Romelu Lukaku.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, man, which one you saying?
Speaker 3I know you're swaying.
Speaker 2I know you're swaying. Yeah, I am spoke about that. They're going to win the tournament, so think about all of the goals.
Speaker 3You know what I mean.
Speaker 1I can't see I see him bagging penalties, but I do worry about him in the big games yeah, that's.
Speaker 3I think. Once you come out of the group stages you come up against certain. You know what I'm saying penalties.
Speaker 2I think, if we're talking. Portugal, if we're talking Portugal, I reckon Bruno Top goal scorer.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, yeah, I hear that.
Speaker 3But I'm not going to say a man from Portugal.
Speaker 2Okay, You're going to say Harry Kane ain't you.
Speaker 3No, I'm going to give you a dark horse.
Speaker 2Okay, you're going to say Rasmussen, yeah.
Speaker 3Sesco.
Speaker 2Okay, oh yeah, benjamin, okay, yes.
Speaker 3No, no, I can't say that because he probably won't come out of the group. So do you get?
Speaker 2me. I can't say that.
Speaker 1I said a dark horse. My name's coming out of the group. You're a dark horse. You're a dark horse. You're a dark horse.
Speaker 2I gave a dark horse on the top score.
Speaker 3My name's coming out of the group, but.
Speaker 2Rasmus, then Rasmus, yeah, I'll say.
Speaker 3Because he's got the potential. Don't come out of that group. Look, rasmus. You know, what man I think you're. I think you scored against him.
Speaker 1You know, what I'm saying, but three, three potentially out of the group. Do you know?
Speaker 2what I'm saying so you're like I agree.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1Okay, last one Player of the tournament.
Speaker 2I'm happy to go with this one. Go on then I'm going to say the spring, youngster Lamao.
Speaker 1Lamao, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2I think he's. I think the season he's had for Barca yeah, the season he's had for Barca yeah, set him up to similar to what Mbappe did, you know what? I mean yeah but even do it at the earlier stage. You know what I mean. I think, yeah, I think, I think he's gonna prove a lot of things which he can do and obviously Barca gonna make sure they keep hold of that man. So I'm gonna say him it's like a breakthrough.
Speaker 3Yeah, it might be a breakthrough.
Speaker 2I think it's just a Show the world.
Speaker 3I'm here, you know what I mean. Like.
Speaker 2He's already. He showed it in the Spanish league, usually the player Of the tournament Doesn't he usually wins, don't they?
Speaker 3Potentially it depends, because I'm just saying you Bellingham. You would have said Bellingham was Player of when? Well, nah, because he was like a breakthrough kind of thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I mean we're talking about player of the tournament, yeah like you ain't fancy them, to which that just means you fancy them to go far.
Speaker 2I think Spain are going to go far. I think, they're going to get to at least quarters but quarters ain't far enough to win the play of the tournament.
Speaker 1Let me tell you quarters quarters when would you play in a tournament, quarter semis? When? Do you know, when do you know a player in a tournament coming out of the quarters? Never, no, I'm just saying I hear that, but if we're gonna.
Speaker 2If I'm gonna say an actual player, then like that, that's my player. But to someone who's gonna win, I'm gonna say Musiala, okay, okay. I think Again, the same Principle applies To what I said about Jamal Musiala Now Saying to people yeah, you hear about me in Munich.
Speaker 3Yeah, watch me against the rest of the world. He's a top player, I mean, I think I think it's.
Speaker 2This is his tournament With the squad of players Germany has has now. For him to say yeah, I can show people what I want.
Speaker 1There's some very good youngsters in this tournament. I like the way they football. This tournament's like a changing of the goal, you know. Like a changing of the guard. You know there's a Moussa Lalli-Lamal Passing the baton. You know, like you know Liao, you know there's players there where you're saying yeah.
Speaker 3Yaseko.
Speaker 1Hoism Neves. I like it Neves yes, it's good, it's good tournament that's what I mean.
Speaker 3I think there's going to be a lot of them, little kind of breakthrough guys.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying people like Albania and all them boys you're going to watch some of them boys come through, some youngsters see, I like watching them.
Speaker 3Teams though. You know them. You know them teams, you expect just to. But then this is the problem you need to watch.
Speaker 1You need to watch all the teams but, like I said, I'm going to go now. I'll leave you to finish. You can finish off. I'm going Bruno Fernandes the way he's ended the season with United and the way he plays for Portugal and the way that the manager's got him playing. I was debating whether to go with top scorer, so I think he's going to. I think, if you're, you know it's mad when I watch Portugal. What's what's mad is that, even with Bernardo Silva Leão and all them lot, he seems to be the guy.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know like he seems to be that guy you know like. So for him to be that guy for Portugal, maybe sometimes the disrespect he gets at United we need to kind of hold on to him. We've got one of the top boys here.
Speaker 3He gets disrespected at United because it's United.
Speaker 1We've got one of the top boys here. He's captain material, bro. He really is the top boy. But like I said, before, probably with discipline and whatever, and not having that midfield connection to you. Know my weak, my strengths. I need someone to sweep up my weaknesses yeah, yeah, yeah do you know what I mean. At United he's got strengths, but his weaknesses make our weaknesses even worse do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah but at Portugal, with Paulinho and Vitinho sitting there, because it's the first time in Portugal. They used to have Carvalho and Paulinho swapping over sometimes, neves, it's the first time I've seen them with a two where I'm like yeah that two is like I think that can work yeah, yeah, yeah and that gives my man the freedom to essentially not do. He does do what he wants yeah, yeah but that gives him the freedom to think you know what I can do, what I want, but it leads to a discipline.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1So I'm going with Bruno Fernandes for the top player of the tournament.
Speaker 3See, because you've gone with him, I feel like I need to pick someone else. No, no.
Speaker 1I said he's my top scorer. Yes, you play with the tournament. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3There's no top scorer, then yeah, simple as that Bruno, bruno, it's got to be man.
Speaker 1It's got to be. This has been a pleasure. This is the longest podcast I've done. We've had a load of fun. Thank you very much, cubsy.
Speaker 3Thanks for having me bro.
Speaker 2Thank you, tobias, really appreciate it no problem, man Enjoyed it.
Speaker 1Really enjoyed it. Thank you very much for listening. It's been a pleasure. Goodbye.