Yeah. There we go. Uhhuh. Whoops. I hit the wrong button. Hey, good morning. Good afternoon, good evening. Happy yesterday and a better tomorrow. It's me, Scott Tempesta. I'm your host on the Sailing Anarchy Podcast. Yeah, playing some different kind of stuff here. You know, I like, so I like to roll. Um. So I was looking at some of our, um, downloads, some of our statistics from the Sailing Anarchy podcast. And man, I was, you know, I never know exactly what you all like, you know, I don't, I mean, how, how can I, right. I get some feedback, not, not that much, but you know, people seem to dig it and the numbers have been fairly consistent. You know, we, we go up and we go down a little bit and I just probably depends on a number of things, right? People have had enough of me, which if you go, if you go on my, based on how my girlfriends have been, yeah, it's, I think, I think it's easy to reach a tipping point with me. I just gotta say it. Um, and you know, I, our numbers fluctuate as I said, and you know, they can be really good. I mean, what I think is really good, I don't know. And um, and then they could be, you know, not quite so great. And I was noticed a trend. It seemed to me that when it was just me blabbering, maybe people grew tired of it. I can't imagine why. Uh, but, and when I had guests and, and good guests, and let's face it, our guests are always good. We have good guests. I don't have as money as I, as I should, but you know, I, I reached out outside of the normal circle of, of things that we do, you know, in terms of guests and, um, I, I got in touch with Sam Manard, the French designer who has. He's kind of the leader, I suppose, in scout mono hall development. I guess there's no scout. Multi halls are there, although, you know, why wouldn't that be on the horizon potentially? Um, and you know, I was really intrigued by his work with Mach 50. I've talked about this before, the 50 footer that just crushed, uh, the transit land, race. I mean, crushed. I talked about this. You know, they won corrected time by over a day, over the second place boat and two days over the third place boat, I mean, yeah. And, uh, if you see some videos of it, I put a video up this morning on sailing anarchy, uh, from the, um, event organizers on the race, and, and it's a good video in that it, it's got, they go fairly in depth in a number with a number of the class winners. And, uh, that, that's fairly interesting. However, before they got to any of that, they had, oh, I don't know, 30 quick cut videos and you, but you know what I mean by quick cut, right? They don't stay on a, a scene very long. And this instance, I measured them, and this seems to be the standard for what these geniuses who think this is still really cool. They're two seconds long, okay? When you're watching a screen. And, and especially with pictures or videos of wow, pretty, you know, cool looking boats in cool environments like that race provided. Well, couldn't you leave the camera on'em for 10 goddamn seconds, or 15 or Whoa, whoa. I know it's unthinkable. Maybe 30 seconds so we can look at the whole thing. I mean, these aren't just average boats. These are nice race boats. And you know, being pushed as far as they can be, and they've got some great video, but boy, they just insist on all these quick cuts and you know, I don't know, have I turned into Abe Simpson? I mean, it's possible. I went from being Bart Simpson, realizing I've always been Homer Simpson in terms of my ineptitude to now just getting old and cranky like Abe Simpson. It could be that, but I don't think so. It's always pissed me off. And I think I've always had a good sense of what, what makes good videos and what doesn't. And uh, anyway, it's just so annoying. But they did finally get into, um, you know, some stuff on these, the class winners. You know, the Raven piece was pretty interesting. They're all interesting. It's worth, it's worth going onto the front page of Sailing Anarchy and, and watching the video. Um, but so, you know, we had Sam Manard on at Manu. And, um, I thought he was a great guest. I, I, you know, I hope I didn't come across like too much of a neophyte, but I, I don't understand much of the world of, you know, how they design these things, why, what they're supposed to do. I may have a general understanding, probably like most people do, but I thought Sam was really good. I just enjoyed the conversation and typically when I get these podcasts and the guests that come on them. And they're good. You know, I have a good, I always have a really, you know, sort of good feeling about it. Like, oh yeah, this one's gonna be good. Well, I did that on January 23rd, so what's that going on? That's like 10 days, nine days, 10 days. And the downloads are low, really low. And actually our last two podcasts have been fairly awful. Uh, the one I did before that podcast, number 72, that was really low, but yet, you know, the, the three, let's see, let me go down the list a little bit here. Lemme take a look. Oh, yeah, I mean, all the, they've all been good. And then these last two just kind of fell off the planet and, um, I'm hoping there's a legitimate reason behind it that, that isn't me. Um, so yeah, it's a little disturbing. I don't really know why, but, okay. That's, that's what's going on. Thought I'd just bring that up. You know, it's funny in, you know, metrics are everything, right? And, um, when, when Google was first starting, um, they were going to media companies and going, listen, the ratings that you're currently getting, like Nielsen for tv and I think they were doing radio too. Um, they're, they're bullshit. We can give you actual numbers. Pure analytical numbers that really will tell you, you know, how many people are watching, et cetera, et cetera. And the CEO of, um, CBS, I think it was at the time he said, no. He, the go, the guys at Google had a meeting with him, said, look, this is our package. This is when Google was just getting off the ground. And, um, and of course it'd proven to be, you know, nothing short of brilliant, but the, the CEO uh, said no. And his explanation was, I just wanna keep some mystery to the whole thing. In other words, I don't really want people to know what the real, we don't want to know. We don't wanna tell advertisers what the real numbers are because you know, they're, they're. Probably not what they really would be. And, and of course the Google numbers would show that. And when I was in talk radio, you know, ratings are everything. I mean, everything. The only reason anybody's even on the air with any longevity or you know, any sort of syndication. And I don't even know who those people would be. I mean, Ryan Seacrest, I guess. I mean, it used to be Howard Stern was like, you know, the leader in that because he was good. Uh, obviously on his own at just one station. Then he went to two, then he went to three, then he went to four, you know, then he got syndicated all across the country and he did generate legit numbers. I mean, he was number one in on the morning. And then, by the way, the morning show, drive time, radio in the morning. That's the most important, uh, show. On any radio station, any of them, because people are in their cars, you know, they're going to work, got a real captive audience and you know, you find out who's listening and who's not. But what's interesting about that is a little, little known secret is they don't send out many bouts to people. Uh, that is, you know, Hey, who are you? You know, what, what are you listening to? What are you watching? Who's your favorite thing, you know, to fill out the information, you know, for Nielsen? And it turns out that there's a very, it's a very, very small sample size. Um, and radio used to be so, and it probably is, it's, it's, it's run by idiots. I know. I was, I was in the system for 10 years. It's hard to believe really just how bad people are in radio, and I'm not even talking about the people on the air. They, they hardly even matter anymore. Um, it's the idiots that make the decisions. So if you knew somebody who had one of these books, they called'em a book. And if you could like convince them to like, Hey, put, you know, put our station, put this, put this, and you know, you managed to get a couple of those, your ratings would shoot up and it was like, it was, you know, you weren't allowed to do it as manipulation. It was illegal, all kinds of stuff, but it went on because that's how important ratings are. And so, you know, when I started Sailing Anarchy all those years ago, you know, it was like, wow, I, I, we, and, and it was Google Analytics, like, oh, okay. And then they start to tell, show you, then you start to learn like how many people are really clicking, how many continue to click. Uh, how long they spend there. Um, and the salient anarchy numbers have been fabulous over the years. I mean, fabulous. And, um, it's really, it's what propelled us to the top is the content that we provided and still provide and, you know, people's enthusiasm about it and their, you know, their desire to. To click, see what's going on. And so it's really, it's, it's interesting. So now that I look at, and I don't really have anything to do with any of the, the, uh, search engine optimization, you know, SEO or any of the Google Analytics, I got nothing to do with any of that. You know, I'm simply a contractor for sailing anarchy. To do this and to do the front page content and, um, hell, I don't even sell advertising anymore. I was a little surprised they didn't let me sell advertising really and truly because, I mean, I had a network of, of advertisers over the years, like we had, have had good advertisers and I was really surprised they didn't let me like, Hey, listen, we'll give you a 30% or whatever deal you close. I wouldn't have done it for anything less than 30. And, um. And yeah, I mean, listen, I still have, I had relationships with all these people, you know, and, but it's a, it's a big company and they've got salespeople and they've got, you know, it's a real company unlike what I was running, which was just half-assed. But regardless, um, you know, the only way that a website stays on the air is through advertising revenue. I mean, that's it. That, that's it. You just don't, you just don't exist unless you, unless you're either a subscription based. Which I don't think works very well for most people. I think that's been proven over the years, um, because there's so much good free stuff. Why would you, it's a little bit like porn. Like why would you buy porn? There's so much good porn for free. That's the only analogy I could come up with. Um, and so, you know, we made good money and I'm, I'm sure that's why we were appealing. I mean, we had, I've had offers. At least a dozen offers over the years, you know, over the decades for people to buy it. And uh, you know, I just didn't wanna sell it. Like, I know I like this, but it came time, you know, I've told you this, it came time like three years ago, whatever it was, time to time to get out, you know, let somebody else run it. But, uh, they've kept me on, you know, for these years, and I'm appreciative of that and I like it. So I was just kind of disappointed to see like. The Sam Manu numbers are like, mm, I don't know. I don't know. It's always, it's always disturbing, you know, when you look and go, oh geez, that didn't do as good as he thought. Or you, you know. So anyway, I'm still gonna carry on and blather on I, um, to get into the subject of what I wanted to talk about today. Despite all that, I mean, I can make a preamble to a podcast last 15 minutes without even trying, which is what I've done here. Um, I got a call from Charlie Enright, the, uh, new CEO of us sailing and, you know, we had him on as a guest a few months ago. And I've had a couple of, you know, good conversations with him, and I gotta tell you, I am a fan. I think he couldn't be more perfect for the job. Um, he's forthright. He doesn't really seem to bullshit at all. As far as I can tell, you know, and I'm a class, I'm a world class bullshitter, so, you know, I, I can usually tell he seems to be really doing a good job. I think he's got a good understanding of the tasks, tasks, multiple thereof, that, you know, they have to get on and, um, he needs some time. You know, he is been just been assembling the staff and you know, all of that, that, you know, that go, when you go in, you know, the ch a new CEO Uhoh, you know, there's gonna be changes. Of course there are. Um, it's like, it's like in radio, um, you know, they hire a new general manager or you know, whatever program director. And it's like everybody that's on an existing show, on an on, on an existing station, it's like you're, you're puckered up.'cause like. Uh, historically what happens, God forbid it's new, new ownership, then all bets are off. Then you can count on everybody getting fired. But if they bring in some, you know, hot gm, you know, who's, he's worked, hey, he worked in country in, in, in Memphis and really made it work. And then, you know, they hire him to come out here and, you know, he wants to, you know, do that out here, you know, so what happens is, you know, you're working on this station and, uh, suddenly. They just play music for about two days and let everybody go. And of course they bring in all new people on the air, people talent as they say. That's a misnomer. And uh, you know, new music or whatever, talk, whatever it is and off it goes. So, you know, Friday when you get outta your car after driving home from work. You know, you're used to listening to your favorite easy listening station, and then Monday you get in the car and it's, you know, it's right wing talk radio, you know? Um, so that, that does happen, uh, in radio a lot if anybody listens, you know? And so, you know, and it's all ratings based. I mean, you know, they, they do a lot of research in radio and, and I know they do a lot, uh, on Internets too. And so, uh, yeah. Anyway, so, you know, he's now the new station manager and while he is not throwing everything out, doing something else, he's really doing his best, I think, to make us sailing relevant to mo more people. I think that's really kind of one of their core messages. And one of the things that they're working on is PHRF. And, um, and I'm glad because, and I, I don't know how much influence I had. I mean, I, I have some, but uh, you know, I complained pretty heavily to him. Uh, about what was going on here in San Diego, and I've, I've talked about this before. I don't wanna beat a dead horse, but you know, the, they quit one of the clubs. One of the paper clubs, does that help? Cortez Racing Association? They dropped PHF completely. And uh, after I got an email from or after I got a phone call, which had the phone call with Charlie, um, I got an email and, uh, I, it's from CRA and they were announcing, you know, the, the notice of race for the mid winners and. They went from, they went from PHRF to then ORC, and then PHRF still was out there in terms of like cruising or non spinnaker. Like you could race those in PHRF. Okay. And some people do, but most people don't want to do that. They want to race P-H-R-F-P-H-R. They're not cruising and they are gonna fly Spinnaker. And then I noticed, and so they would have that there. They had it for the beer can series and a couple of other things. But for this series, it's all ORC, all of it. There's a J 24 class, which in San Diego stays remarkably consistent. You know, I, I think they probably average 10 boats, maybe eight to 10 boats. That's pretty good. I mean, hell. So yeah, that's all. There's ORC. That's it. That's it. You wanna raise PHF? No, and I, I, for the life of me, I don't understand it, but talking to, to Charlie, you know, like what are some of the things that he's gonna do, what they're gonna try to do, and I, you know, I think they feel it's worthwhile. And here's why. Apparently PHRF issued 20,000. New certificates last year. That's pretty good considering it hasn't been promoted by us sailing hardly at all. Um, I guarantee ORC, they didn't issue 20,000 cer certificates in this country. I mean, there's no way. I don't know for sure, but I just am assuming that also it helps my narrative. Um, and so what they're trying to do is. To really make the national database of ratings, um, you know, more accurate as best they can, and, and so that you'll have, um, more of a cohesive national position and national recognition of PHRF and to try to make it more organized. I don't know, I don't think they're gonna eliminate local handicap rating boards, which. I complained to Charlie again today. That's one that's probably the biggest weak link. No, not probably. It absolutely is the weak link in PHF. You can say what you want about the ratings. I mean, some asshole and another less than sailing site said the PHF is the worst system. No, it's not. PSRF might be the best system, but only if it's implemented the right way and managed the right way. And the problem with local handi handicap boards, as you guys know, wherever you race, if you sail PHRF, you know, oh goddamn handicapper, you know, and listen, those are usually valid'cause these guys are usually self-dealing, self-interested, biased people. And they get a little bit of power on their local rating board and oh boy, they feel like they can, you know, we're, I'm gonna, I'm gonna really, yeah, I'm gonna make some changes. Why that guy's ratings wrong? You know what? Whatever. And most of these guys are not great sailors, let's be honest. And if they are good sailors, they're chumps. So, you know, I tried to like, go Charlie, why do we need PHRF, uh, Southern California and PHF San Diego? I mean, the boat, the, the venues are not all that dissimilar. Sure. There's more breeze up in the LA area. Okay. But not, not always. There's Dana point, you know, there's Newport. I mean, it's not always that, but why, why too? I mean, I basically, what I was trying to do is get'em to kick the local San uh, San Diego pie drift board out of the equation. Um, but I don't think that's really what they're going to do. I think they still want enthusiastic people. You know, to be able to, you know, review these things. But instead of being able, I think if I, if I heard this right, instead of just, um, being able to go, well, you know, ah, we have, I don't care what it rates, well, I don't care what it rates other places. Well, if there's more of a national database for. And the ratings are perhaps more accurate in the aggregate, if that makes any sense. Like, sure. It might not be perfect for San Diego. Uh, what's perfect for San Diego isn't going to be perfect for San Francisco, et cetera. You know, we have those local variations, but you know, there's too much of that bullshit back and forth. There's too much of people trying to manipulate it all, and you know. You know, and, and all kinds of excuses. And what about that guy? He rates this and I don't know, how about you just shut up and sail your goddamn boat? How about you go buy some new sails, haul the boat out and get the crude down to sand the goddamn bottom? How about that? I know. How about you pay a coach to go out and, and teach you guys how to sail? There's plenty of'em around everywhere. And they're not necessarily that much. Not like the pros that go sailing on these big boat programs. Those guys, they charge a lot. But you know, you could get a guy to come out. And how great would that be to have, you know, think of a guy in your area, like, yeah, that guy would probably come coach, you know, he wouldn't charge much. And how great would it be to have a guy come out, you know, for say about four hours or so, go sailing with the entire crew and you on your boat. And then just go through station by station and you know, be able to help in certain areas. Um, if you did all that and you went racing, I'll bet you wouldn't bitch so much about ratings. So that's also another part of the problem. I mean, let's face it, Pierre has become a default class. It's where everybody goes, you know, it became the default class, you know, when there was IOR and. More sea. I mean, everybody else went, okay, I guess we'll go sail PHRF, and then all of those died away. And then PHRF is now just, you know, it's this, it's this huge pot of boats. Not always great, not always great sailors. And yes, O or C is, is for people that want to do something a little different. But you know, the majority of the people aren't interested in that. They don't know the rule. They don't wanna understand the rule. Um, I know that, uh, this other clown I was talking about, you know, was. Basically humiliating people who, you know, didn't understand it. Okay, great. That's great. So I'm one of those persons who doesn't understand it all that well, so I don't, you know, I know why people don't get it.'cause it's complex and people don't want to do things that are complex. They don't, and when they go sailing, they really. Sure. Some of you guys with more money, you buy ORC boats and you wanna sail ORC. Great. I get it. I get it. But it isn't always, you know, money oriented. But there's also people go, shit, let's just go racing and, you know, yeah, we, that guy, we gotta beat that guy to the weather mark by a minute. Okay, so you know that, how are you at the lured mark? Yeah, we're two 16 ahead. Awesome. You know exactly how you're doing. You don't know an ORC, you don't, I mean, unless you spend a lot of time getting all of these figures down, but you don't really know because you don't know what the race committee is gonna choose for course or wind and probably a good chance they've got it wrong. So I'm, I'm fairly happy with the, I, I, I do like Charlie and Wright a lot. He's, he's a likable guy. He's really smart. And, um, I think he's doing a good job and I'm glad to see that they're putting this together. Now. He doesn't really have a press release or anything to, to get out there and, you know, when he does, I'm sure I'll talk to him about a little bit and I don't know, you know, they're getting some funding together to be able to do this. Um,'cause it takes people, you know, to be able to organize a, a national, you know, rating thing. And, you know, it just takes, it does take people and it takes money. And so it's good they're dedicating that. I hope they're in it for the long run because PHRF, I think is in it for the long run. Um, not to say ORC isn't, but in the numbers that PHRF generally generates, I'd say no, it's not. So it was an encouraging call. I like the guy, I can say anything I want to him. Um, and you know, nothing phases him. Um, I mean, I don't say it, you know, it's not like fucking n right? Whatcha fucking doing, man? It's not that. Uh, he's an open guy and he listens. He's a good listener and I think he's a good dude. And so I was, I was pleased, uh, to see that now I'm not currently racing at all, other than I'm going to the pond on Wednesday. To say race my, um, DF 95. But, uh, that's, that's been it. But it's interesting to see what people are saying, what's happening with it all. And um, yeah, I just wanted to kind of give you that little report and, um, yeah, can't think of anything else. Anything else I need to say? Oh, I think I've said. So listen up. It's me, Scott Tempesta for Sailing Anarchy saying, see ya.