Houston Podcast Transcript
Summary
Houston is a youtuber and health coach who had a lot of health problems since she was born. For as long as she can remember she had suffered with acne, ADD, body dysmorphia, ADHD, depression and eczema. In 2016 she started the keto diet with and even tried traditional Chinese medicine. Even though she is a personal trainer and was doing everything “right” in her healthy lifestyle she felt numb and ill.
Houston shares that her childhood is full of illnesses such as chest infections, cold sores, tonsillitis, and multiple UTIs. She also reveals that she had a sugar addiction since a very young age which she describes as almost like a monster controlling her, leading to binge eating. She talks about how she got into the fitness industry and eventually did a bodybuilding competition which made the binge eating and sugar addiction worse. She also shares her experiences with different diet and lifestyle changes like going vegan and the horrors that bought. In just 45 days of carnivore Houston feels finally alive, vibrant, and happy.
Transcription
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Hi there and welcome to another interview today got the fantastic Houston with me. And I'm not going to start with the Joker. Houston, is there a problem? I'm going to talk to her at the same I talk to everybody and that is hey Houston, why did you become carnivore?
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I loved Steve and then actually, Steve, we have the solution. We found the solution actually. 1s Okay, so I'm actually on day 45 today of my carnivore journey. 1s And okay. Just 45 days ago, I came across carnivore. I had heard I had seen people eating meat. Hadn't quite registered. I'd been following all Saladino for years. Um, I. 1s I'd come across Tito, and being in the fitness industry, I'd seen people doing low carb and it just it didn't quite register. It's like the saying when the student is ready, the teacher appears. 45 days ago, it was actually my mum that sent me a video and it was actually it, a lady on Instagram. And she is the Primal bolt. 1s So I've been meaning to watching her videos. So my mom sent me this video and it was about she had been eating less, moving more, eating all the vegetables, the fruit, the fibre, the greens. She was gaining weight. She was having cellulite all over her legs. Um, she thought it was just kind of age. This is what happens. It just gets harder. Until she found carnivore primal eating and something just clicked in me because I've been experiencing the same thing. From that moment went on her Instagram. 1s Watch so many videos led me to YouTube and then I found I actually found yourself UK carnivore. Um, Dave Mac I found. 1s You want to bury Anthony Chaffee? I found all of it. And that's it. I've been watching probably about 5 to 10 videos and ever since. 2s So I'm going to back up. 2s And just touch on a bit of childhood health conditions that I've experienced that. Really? 1s I am so grateful that I found Cardinal. 2s I actually believe. 1s That I began my food addiction, sugar addiction, self-soothing, 1s binge eating from a very, very, very young age. I was a premature baby six weeks early, put in an incubator I'd taken away from my mom. I believe I actually learned to self-soothe. 2s With food. Blackmail. 1s I don't actually remember that, but I remember being a very young child and. 1s Beating joy. Like really elated pleasure. When I was eating. 1s I, actually. 2s Had a pretty traumatic childhood and my childhood I felt very lonely, sad. 3s Unsafe. 3s Little by little it. 1s And as an only child. With no real caregiver or adult to be a stand for me to. I didn't have emotional support. That wasn't there wasn't a grammar. There wasn't a teacher. A parent and a sibling. And I was kind of figuring out on my own that I may spoon my absolute best friend. It was like the one thing that it just wrapped me in a blanket. It just made me feel warm and safe. 2s I remember being five at school and I couldn't focus. All I wanted was the break I want in lunch. I wanted to eat all of my food and everyone else's food. I. 1s I was like. 3s A monster in me that I couldn't quite control. Any time I would go to other children's houses or birthday party, I would be by the cupboards, I would be sneaking food. I would be at the the buffet table. I wasn't interested in face paint, trampoline in party. No, no no, I just wanted to be a food 1s nobody really picked up on. 1s How now, looking back, how severe my sugar addiction was and my binge eating. Also at a young age because I was actually never overweight. I. 1s I don't know the ins and outs, the science behind that. I've never been in a way. 1s And so I went through my whole childhood kind of really suffering deeply, internally, really emotionally, mentally. 1s But on the outside I looked. 1s Like a normal child. Not in the way. No real big health conditions. 1s But actually I was really, really suffering I. 1s I would. 2s Anywhere. I would even start to find money and get myself to the shop and buy. 1s Pick a mix, I won't. 1s There was, um, like these sour brain liquors. I would pop the balls out and actually drink them. I would buy boxes of ice sillies, not freeze them, just cut them open and just drink the liquid because it was so sweet. I would sneak downstairs and eat sugar out of the sugar jar at a very young age, and pour golden syrup from that. That golden green tin that you. I would just pour it straight in my mouth like it. My sugar addiction was was 1s off, off the charts. Um. 2s As a child, I had lots of time to lie tests, lots of antibiotics, chest infections and infections. I had cold sores all the time. Not now, I understand looking back. 1s I really didn't understand how to regulate myself and I was in fight or flight. I've been quite bright. Most of my love I. 2s I was a very. 1s I'll just get. 2s An unwell child, but it wasn't. 2s Really? No. There was just always something underlying. I began to get a UTI at ten years old. 3s I would, I would have antibiotics that would actually then cause me to get thrush. So I would have you guys, I would have thrush, I would have tons, I'd have more antibiotics. My gut was being destroyed. I just load up with sugar. I was kind of. 2s Really 1s able to do whatever I wanted. I didn't really I wasn't really in the environment that it was kind of. 2s Routine dinner and connection set. I started drinking alcohol at 12. I. 2s Was a bit of a wild teenager. 3s I mean. 2s I. 1s I remember when I was 17 years old, I passed my joint intact. I would go to Poundland and I would load up my boots where we crunchies, knickknacks, all of the crisp, the Dorito packets of Snickers, Twix, double deckers, bags of Skittles, wine gums, my glove, my glove box would be packed with bars of Dairy Milk. I wouldn't you couldn't fit another bar in that would be stacked. And it made me feel safe. So as a child I would have snacks next to my bed. I would fill up drawers in my school, 1s um, book bag. Even really young, eh? I would have sweets in my book bag. Nobody really paid much attention or I was kind of. 2s I know this going to pass around a lot, so I'd stay at different people's houses. People, you know. Adults. Oh, give us some sweets. Give us some sweets. I was dropped off here. These people looking after me and these people. It's a nobody really was really. 4s Getting to know what was going on because I was always a different people. 2s Um, yeah, it just got worse. And the teenager entered into some pretty toxic, abusive relationships. Of course, that's what I come from. That was what was familiar to me. Just repeating all of the chaos and drama. I ended up moving to Australia. I had another UK at 18 years old on my own. Packed my bags. Was like getting me to somewhere that is as far as I can possibly go because something's got to change. Took myself over to Australia. Had no idea how long I was going to be that actually ends up being there. Seven years. So of course we try and fix things internally with external things. I thought, you know, moving across the world, things are going to change. Like no deal the same Houston still a lot of trauma and things that I wasn't dealing with right. Australia same binging. Sugar entered into some relationships that while healthy repeated the cycles I. 2s I started to go to homeopaths, naturopaths. I actually started to go to therapy. I just felt really disconnected with my body. I started to really feel quite sad and low depressed. 2s The binging was getting. Was actually getting worse. I will go and buy Harry Am bags full. Full with sweets and chocolate and just get into bed thinking, oh, this is going to give me comfort. This is going to bring me joy. Like, I'm so excited. I was kind of like, plan the binges. And then it would all be gone very quickly, like everything in 20 minutes under an, I mean, a lot of food. And then the guilt hit and the shame hit. And I'm not going to do that tomorrow. I'm not going to do that. And it repeats it. Repeat. I remember crying. I remember going to hypnotherapy. They didn't do anything. I remember just searching for help I found. I found books, um, to eat poison. I quit sugar. I read wheat, barley, grain, grain, and lots of different things. I always interested in health and nutrition. 2s They just. 2s I read them, but I just couldn't get Ahold, I guess. Addiction is a powerful thing, and I just. 1s I felt absolutely powerless over. 2s Dude. 2s Especially over over sugar I. It's like if something was controlling me, I'd been walking to the shop telling myself, you're not going in, you're not going in, you're not going to go in. You just go in for a walk. And still then I would find myself at the at the down the aisles gathering every day. And you're not actually going to pay for this. You're not going to pay for it, you know, put it all back on the shelves. Then I'll be at the checkout. No, Houston, you you gonna put this back now? Then all of a sudden, I'll be back at home binge eating. Repeat, repeat, repeat until. 2s I. 1s Actually out in Australia, got qualified as a personal trainer because I love fitness and I'm always loved health at school. I was in the athletic team I actually used to sprint, which I do believe also saved me. Um, it actually saved me in part because I had such a lot of muscle, and I just believe that my body was able to process some of the damage because I actually started sprinting at nine years old. 2s I'm sorry I missed out that little bit, but I've got qualified as a personal trainer at age 23. 1s I came back the UK at 25 and at age 25, that's when I actually entered into gyms. So. 2s All, I really was surrounded by the fitness industry 1s and I actually thought this was going to make things better. It actually made things worse. So what I what I came to know was actually the fitness industry is quite not not everything. However, my experience is quite toxic and there's a lot of body dysmorphia, disordered eating in in a lot of different ways. The macros, the counting calories I'd never counted calories or I had never. 2s It wasn't something I was used. I didn't really grow up getting on the scales and all of those types of things. And this, this was a whole new environment for me, which actually made things so much worse. So I started to learn, oh no, Houston, you need to reduce shift back. So you're eating the whole eggs. You need to just eat the egg whites. No, Houston, we do it with protein powders. No, don't. You don't want to be in the mint and the state we do in chicken breast? No, Houston, you got to, you know, eat more greens. We're doing the pre-workout and doing the protein bars. Were doing all of the the guinea things and the syrups and the different things that you put in the companies. I learned all of this in the fitness industry. 1s Then I decided to do a body competition. So it was a bodybuilding bikini hot. And I actually do have pitching. Wow. This made my binge eating disorder and sugar addiction. I couldn't even. I didn't realize it could get worse and worse. So from this. 2s Now, looking back, there was restriction that I had a coach and I was told, you have rice cakes, plain rice cakes. You have chicken breast with broccoli. You can use zero calorie sweeteners in your coffee and in your yogurt. You're going to have a root with protein powder and you can put the sweetener in there. Then you're going to have white rice, chicken rice. 1s Um, I was allowed a couple of spoonfuls of almond butter. 1s And oh, I was allowed some bacon, but it wasn't allowed to be pork. It had to be turkey bacon. 1s I was like, right. Okay. Got it. Wow. I had no idea that this. I was feeling so hungry. I was my sugar cravings were through the roof. Yes. My body started to really like. I had an eight pack at one point, and my body fat percentage was decreasing and authentically like to look at me. 1s People assumed. Wow, she looks so. She looks so healthy. My mental health was not good. Brain fog was through the roof. 1s I felt unstable in in my mind, I. I was cold all the time. Up my sleeve was was shock. I was angry, I felt irritable, I felt frustrated. I felt confused. I. 1s It was just I would cry every day. It actually felt like torture. But what I didn't actually. There it is. I didn't tell my coach this, but every weekend I would. I was able to stick with it for like the five days and I would force myself. And then every weekend I would binge. 1s I don't know how, because I don't know the science behind mind body and how it's worked, but I actually still looked amazing and I would binge every weekend without my coach knowing. And the binge would be why I would have ice cream. Oreos. Twix is Mars bars. I already Biscoff spread the whole jar, I would. 2s Haribo. I would go to Wilkinsons and buy two kilos of comics and eat the whole thing. Yes, I would balloon the inflation. My eyes would feel like slits. My whole face would swell. I was so uncomfortable by the by about 3 or 4 days. It with all the water and the retention would go down, and I'll be able to check in with my coach again and send pictures and still, like, look great. I did this for about 16 weeks. 2s I also. 2s Finish the prep did the competition. And that is when it just. I didn't even have the five days or the. 2s Structure diet plan. It just went wild. I couldn't control myself. I was waking up at night eating buttons. Dairy milk, Galaxy, the headaches, migraines. It was. 3s It was really. It was abuse I couldn't stop. I felt like I had no control over it. It spiraled. It just got worse and worse and worse. Really? 2s Uh. 2s I. Then there were a little snippet that I managed to get control over it. I don't remember. 1s I think it was 2018 or 2019 watching Game Changers think it was called Game Changers. It was like a vegan documentary. I don't know, it was in the cinema when I watched it. Wow. Hook, line and sinker. I was like, this debt or my health? This is it. This is going to change everything. I went vegan for a year. 2s All, I was eating raw spinach out of the bag. Like daily, I was eating nut butters out of the jar. I was still binge eating because I, I just. 2s My body. It was like it was 2s crying out for something. I just didn't know what it was I would eat, I would eat a kilo of nut butter in like a day. It was. I would have brussel sprouts. Thinking that I was being so good I would do a whole kilo of them, whole kilo of brussel sprouts just with. So like I would eat all the broccoli. I was told that greens are your best friend used to load up on greens, so it got to the point that's still in the fitness industry. I would grate courgettes into my own to try and get extra greens. I would make my omelette green because I was told to get extra greens, so I would blitz up kale and spinach with eggs and then do it in the pan. I would add greens into actually everything I did smoothie cleanses, juice cleanses and I honestly was feeling internally sicker and sicker and sicker it. 3s It didn't really, because everyone around me would still say, Houston, you look great. Stop going. You look great. I was like, there's something wrong with me, there's something wrong. I don't I feel so disconnected and so numb and so. 2s Like a monster. There's like a monster in me, and I don't know how to tame her. Like she's angry and. 1s I would be snappy. My mood was. 2s Wild. I went down the medical medium route. Read his book. Started slowly juicing. Uh, it it just. It got worse and worse and worse. In 2021, I actually went up to Harley Street to get all of my blood done and have, like, a o m o t, let's say. And to try and find something, please, somebody has to help me. I found out I also have my went up again three months later and had them had all my blood test done again. I also went to another naturopath, another homeopath. I also was doing acupuncture, my zan and therapy, some other therapies. 2s I found out I my testosterone was through the roof. I don't really like labels, but I got labeled or diagnosed with PCOS and polycystic ovarian syndrome. I had all the scans. I had lots of cysts on my own, raised my testosterone was through the roof. Um, I had low T3 and T4, so my thyroid, I was pre-diabetic, my my fasting, my fasting blood sugar or glucose or was. 1s Was, uh, 6.3. 1s Oh, and 1s I also had hypoglycemia. So my I would shake my I didn't know what any of this was. I was like, all I know is I do not feel well. No matter what you see on the outside, I am not a well, human right now. Um. Now I know it's obviously all of the sugar and my body was just trying to. It was, I'm just going on a roller coaster or insulin spikes or. My whole entire life, every time I would go to sort of a fitness event or, um, a health expedition or seminar. I don't know, I always find like, oh yeah, I'll have my blood pressure done and I have my finger prick to find out whatever it is, you really know your glucose. And every time there would be, like, get a jelly beans. Get the jelly beans. Sit down. Are you okay? Are you okay? Now I understand are so. I always have been like, lo. I didn't ask that. I'm fine I. 1s And that. That's just. 2s So I know that they're not really getting to anything. So to my thyroid, my PCOS, pre-diabetic. This is this is a lot for my body to be going through. I was 30 at the time. 2s But still, no one's really doing anything like the doctor she said to me. So do you want to get pregnant right now? No. Okay, so we don't really need to worry about the PCOS until you want to get pregnant. Right. Okay. One doctor said to me, we'll put you on some thyroid medication, but I just intuitively, intuitively was. No. I'm not. I'm gonna figure it out somehow. I don't know how, but I am going to figure this out. 1s Um. 1s So it's been a wild ride from then 2022. I thought, this is. 1s Like what is the human experience? Surely there is more to this. Are. 1s I. 1s I need to go away. I packed my bag in 2022 and took myself on a ten month solo trip. 1s I was like, oh, there's more healing, there's something more. I ended up in Costa Rica. I, I, I sat with shamans, I did plant medicine and I did breathwork. I did cold water therapy. I drank a cow, I chanted, I danced in the rain. I'm like, somebody gotta help me. I'm not well 1s when on this journey. Came, came back, um, 2023. So last year and still. 1s It's my body that really had started to. My muscle felt like I could only extend it like I would look and it felt like it was dissolving. I was like, something's happened. My tone disc was disappearing tone that I'd had my whole life. 1s My cellulite started to appear on my arms and down the front of my legs. My face was just puffing up. The the exercise that I would do and the weightlifting. The sprinting wasn't doing anything like I would bounce back into shape if ever I kind of felt a little bit fluffy. This wasn't happening anymore. My hair was all falling out. Acne was all coming on my face. 1s Um, my nails were brittle. There was ridges. I. 1s Would I? Would I keep for 15 hours more and wake up feeling like I hadn't slept? My head would just spin. It's like I wasn't really here. I was looking at people, listening to people, but not really seeing or hearing anything. It's like. Always in a washing machine. 2s And then let's fast forward to 2024. 45 days ago, my mum sent me this. The prime of this thing and something. Hallelujah. Angels. God, the universe, something higher than me. Finally was like. She's surely in for another. This is three decades old. Like quite a lot. And for the last 45 days. 1s Oh my goodness. I actually would actually feel emotional because. Don't get me wrong that it is a journey I'm only 45 days in. Um. However, there is so much light I can finally in my whole entire life. Isn't the first time that I can see light at the end of the tunnel that my body that I experienced? Clarity. 1s That I've experienced. Feeling more grounded. Feeling more connected to my body. Feeling. 2s More at ease in my body than I ever have. Feeling calmer? 1s I feel. Actually in these last 45 days. Another thing that I actually didn't mention, I always remember. 2s Suffered with constipation quite severely. 1s I believe that was just. Oh, that was my makeup. That was my how I was born or how my body is because I don't know another way. I had been to doctors and they had told me, eat more roughage. Yeah, I was doing that. They told me to eat more fiber, to have more greens. I was told to drink prune juice. I was soaking dates. I was told to soak flaxseed. They even gave me these sachets. Um, I believe them very, very strong. They'll like orange flavor because I had a client that was a nurse, and she said she used to give these 12 very, very elderly clients when they really can't go to the toilet and they are so strong. They didn't do anything to me. Nothing. 1s Kind been doing all these things and nothing was working. So I thought, well. 2s I mean, you know, the fire army in Rafah. I'm drinking prune juice, I'm soaking dates, I'm having warmed oatmeal and soaked flaxseeds, and I'm having these things. It's just who I am. It's just my body. Until Carnival is the first time in my whole entire life, and I'm not saying every single time, but this is the first time in my entire life that I've experienced being able to go to the toilet like a normal human being. I used to pray about it. I used to pray, please, because it actually impacts my whole life. It makes me feel very uncomfortable in many situations. It even with friends, it in a relationship, in going on holiday, just everything. It impacts everything and 1s it's like, wow, I didn't know what that felt like. No. 1s That's just. 1s You're rude to me. I'll. 1s It. 1s Yes, I. This is the first time in my whole entire life I've done 45 days without sugar. First time in my whole life I haven't even ever done a few days. Never. Never. So. I know a lot of people within the carnival community. Everyone's have different stages. Everyone's dealing with different things. Everybody is so individual and so unique. I'm really passionate about that. Not one size fits all. I'm really not doing any type of fasting. My body isn't even at a stage to be fasting at all. I'm really eating a lot of fat and. Fatty lamb and rib eye and. 1s Pork scratchings. And there's a little. I don't like butter, but there's a little bit of cheese. Um, I actually am. I know it's not carnival, but I actually use MCT oil in, in my coffee because I really don't like butter. 1s Um. 1s What else? Every time I've been having a craving. And in these 45 days there had been tears. A lot of tears. Where the sugar. My body's had 30 years of addiction. There have been tears. And I felt rage. Deep rage. And every time I know this is the way, I know this is the way. It's like every fiber in my being is like, you got there. We would leading you there slowly. It's like, I feel like Hansel and Gretel. I was like, following the plot. But I went down a whole lot in Dead End, spinning my wheels and kind of went down every avenue to get here. And I guess it's part of my story and it's I had the experience of that. So I'm only very, very early on on my journey. But what already it's given me a freedom even to walk into to market. Don't need to go down any of those aisles or waste time. I would spend hours walking up and down sweet cereals, granola, looking at nut butters like. 1s I'd been up to London and spent hours in Whole Foods and spent £600 on. 1s Bars and crisps that are healthy and all the. And now I'm like the freedom that it's creating and the mental. Bass, even cooking on that. I don't have to cook all the the French and the fancy. Just me. It's just easy. It's simple. It it's just. 1s I'm so excited for this journey. And it's. 2s Like, I know this, this is going to transform absolutely everything. This is the answer to the even the binge eating, the sugar addiction, the constipation, the brain fog, the anxiety and 2s everything. 1s Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well
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brilliant story. And the reason I didn't interrupt because you were pouring your heart out and it was. It was real, wasn't it? Yes. And I can see the joy in your face if people are listening just to the audio podcast. Uh, I'm looking at a very happy, smiley person there. Uh, after such a terrible and, and and at times, very tragic story. I won't pry into those early sort of, um, years of yours that you mentioned. I think people can put the pieces together for themselves.
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Um. 1s And I'm pretty much speechless. I don't think I even have a question because you literally covered everything that I made notes on. Um, you definitely went the extra mile to try and get your health right. Um, there are some similarities in our life, because I did a bodybuilding show and I did look amazing and I felt like rubbish. And people don't, uh, equate somebody that looking healthy can be unhealthy. And you talked about the mental problems and constantly being hungry and feeling cold and obsessing about food, uh, being pre-diabetic, all of those things I've had, uh, lower left quadrant pain, you know, constipation, all that. And I did all the things you did. I was told all the things you were told. Eat more roughage, greens, flaxseeds, soaking dates, eat more fibre. And it's all rubbish. It is all absolute rubbish. You just have to eat the species appropriate diet. Uh, the Game Changers is responsible for a lot of these success stories because people tried that and that made things 100 times worse. Um, you know
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exactly your experience. You think it's going to be the thing that's going to change your life? Yes, it does, but not in a good way. It seems to just get people down that juicing route, um, and destroying the health even further. So I don't know what to say other than, you know, you are early in your journey. So obviously I'm going to ask you to come back maybe in six months to report. Um, and I think you were just so honest and a wonderful guest. Um, you've answered what you eat, which is, you know, the fatty lamb. You have some cheese, a little bit of MCT oil, and, yeah, some people aren't fine, but you don't have to eat butter on carnivore. I know it's pushed over such a lot.
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So that wasn't
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Houston. That was that was brilliant. That was absolutely brilliant.
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Do you feel, um. 1s That
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your mental health and your skin, your skin, all those things are better already in just such a short space of time.
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100%. My skin actually feels like butter. It feels soft and smooth and I'm glowing. I just feel do you know what? I'm a bit emotional again because it's like. 2s On the outside, I would smile and be. Dina was so much, but it's like there was no spark in me. It's like my engine was dead. Like nothing kind of. 1s Brought me joy. 2s I was numb inside. And now it's like. 1s Wow, I feel alive, I feel I'm coming back to life. And that is just such a beautiful thing. Like a human being. I'm here to experience life. And it was passing me by because. I was just so numb and disconnected and disassociated. And yeah, I'm so grateful and I would love to come back on in six months. And I know that it's just. Yeah, it. 1s Powerful, powerful and so grateful. Bound. Carnivore? Yes. Oh, well, that's a brilliant way to end. So I'm going to raise my my mug to you and my carnival experience right there. Because it is an experience. It's a way of life. It's not a diet. And you have proven that. It's not a weight loss diet. It's a health diet. It's a way of living that's going to get your health back. So, Houston, all your links will be in the description people want to follow. You follow your journey. Um, if you had
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somebody contact you, I'm going to ask you to just finish with this one question. And they said, I'm on the fence about carnivore. I'm not sure whether I want to dive in it. It's so weird. Or just eating meat. Uh, do you really think I should try it? What would you say to them?
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Oh my goodness, I would say 100% as as I said, every single human being, every individual is very unique. That there is no comparison between us. We're all so different. So please. 1s You know, meet yourself where you're at, start where you are, and listen to yourself listening to your body. I do really encourage everyone to give it a go. Give it a try. What have you got to lose? And I really would. 2s Commit to. I know I'm only day 45, but I would really commit to at least 90 days. I know I have heard people say 30, but I'm day 45 and. 1s I really don't believe that I'm fat and dead or in any way got the real benefit yet even. I wake up a lot in the night at the moment because I'm really busy. My body is like looking for the carbs and sugar in the egg. It's going to take time. It's going to take time. You know, things that we do for decades. 1s It's not just going to be fixed overnight. Really give yourself patience and grace and all you can do. The proof is in the pudding. Just just give it a go to try and. 2s Progress over perfection. We want to be perfect and oh my goodness. But I had a bite. And this 1s honestly just slow and steady start to make a few changes. And like you say, it's a lifestyle. It's a marathon, not a sprint. It's it's a it's a journey. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the journey and trust the process I know that. 2s It can change your life if you let it.