Roddy podcast Transcript
Summary
In this interview Roddy explains how he reversed his type 2 diabetes and other health issues, such as fatty liver, by switching to a ketogenic and later carnivore diet. Roddy explains how he was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and was put on medication, but his health continued to deteriorate. He was recommended to try a ketogenic diet after his wife did some research and found it could help with his condition. Roddy saw significant improvements and was even able to stop taking some of his medications. He later transitioned to full carnivore after following low-carb for a year, losing weight and improving blood sugar levels. After hearing about the success stories of carnivore with reversing diseases, Roddy decided to try carnivore for himself in 2018. He saw improvements in joint and liver health, and now follows a mostly one meal a day pattern with great energy. Roddy says that the carb counting has stopped being important as he doesn't consume any carbs on the carnivore diet so he does not even need to count them!
Transcription
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Hi there and welcome to another interview. Today I got the fabulous Roddy with me and I'm going to ask Roddy the same question. Ask absolutely everybody. Hey Roddy, why did you become carnivore?
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I stay well, um, carnivore is something I've found after being five years on the G2 way of eating. 1s I don't think I found that on 2017 I was type two diabetic. 2s They had nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, stage three kidney disease, diabetic neuropathy and if my lower legs and feet, um, well I had. 1s High cholesterol. Triglycerides were very high. 1s Just about everything that could go wrong metabolically. You know, that that just, um, suddenly up and, uh, in 2017, the wife came to me and said, I think a further way for you to reverse the diabetes, but you might not like it. 1s And I said, well, why? Why would I not like it? And she said, that means she'd have to give up that last slice of bread. 1s And for a year before that, I was doing my own version of low carb and I had cut my bread. I don't take away that one slice of bread a day. And I have to say, that year from 2016 November 2016, the November 2017, that was a year of starvation. 1s You know, my wife would be preparing a meal in the evening, and I would be walking up and down the well. I could open the kitchen like a caged lion. You know, I was ravenous, and, uh, I was having a boiled egg and 2 or 1 slice of bread. I'd cut 31 slice of bread and I thought I was doing well. Potatoes had stopped them. So I, you know. So that was that first year of low carb. So it was and as I said in 2017, we wasted all the research. And she came to me and says, it's like a phone away for you to reverse it a bit, but you may not like it because you have to give up the the bread completely. And I remember seeing there, if I do that, I will starve by hunger. And she laughed at me. She says, no, you won't. She says that others that are actually at the end are getting great results. 1s And so I started to look at that. And uh, one of the, the videos I came across on YouTube was, yes, doctor Karen Barry, uh, on how to reverse type two diabetes. And, uh. And I remember him saying that, um, medications, the diabetic medications do not prevent diabetic complications. That right away struck home with me because I had loved that. I knew that that that was true. 2s And then the worst doctor, Sarah Halbach, who's no longer with us. She had a great, um, a Ted talk. And how to reverse it. That just 1s blew my mind. So, you know. And I went to the doctor, told me, doctor, what I was going to do. I don't think I was there to ask him if I could do it. I was there to let him do the wrong was going to do it, because for ten years I had suffered with diabetes. For ten years they had taken the medications. I had followed their advice on the dietary guidelines and everything else. Yet I was continually getting worse. I wasn't getting any better, I was getting worse, and my wife was watching us, you know, and if anybody ever had neuropathy and their lower legs and feet, they'll know how they'll and they'll know what I'm saying. Whatever I say, it's horrendous. 1s And I think it's the start of the journey to. Losing your toes or losing your legs and. 3s Whenever I discovered that there was a possibility that I could reverse this, I wasn't going to my daughter to ask of her permission. I was go to the serum, notice that I was going to do this, but thankfully he turned around and he said to me, well, look, if you're going to do this, I may have to adjust your meds. 1s And that was November 2017. He adjusted the meds. Um, that Christmas was my first Christmas on the keto diet. There was no treats. There was no sugar, there was no chocolate. There was no desserts. You know, that seems like a very gloomy Christmas. So with that. But whatever we get into the New year. 2s All of a sudden I started to feel better. Energy started the return of a second one later in the living room watching the TV, 1s and I started doing this for me thing. 3s And I looked over and assisted my wife. I said, look at us. 1s And she looked back at me. She says, I'm telling you, sisters, you keep doing what you're doing, she says as getting rid of the bread that's getting rid of the carbs. They arthritis at my thumb. The pain was beginning to subside for the first time in years. So it was, you know, so I. That was good enough for me. I thought, right, I'm going to stay keto and only keep on keto. By March 2018, for most of the keto, all the back to me doctor diligently blood results 1s and he was literally dancing around his office with sheer delight. 1s This is really. This is what you have done. This is incredible. That's right. He says, let me start with the diabetes. This is you were no longer on the diabetic range. 1s Fatty liver disease is gone. 1s Your kidney function is good, even over a whole host of things. Triglycerides are down. I don't, 1s um. He took me totally by surprise. I'm. I think five foot eight inches tall. Whenever I left his office that day, I think it was about 12ft tall, you know. And, uh, I can tell you, Dawn, from there so that Cato very strict Cato for five years. But over the past couple of years, Jennifer has been sold. And I've been looking at that, you know, because all my all the influencers like Kay and Barry not have all been down that road, you know, and I like the idea of that. And I've watched a lot of podcasts, a lot of people getting great results from autoimmune diseases included in your channel. I've watched your channel, uh, Dave March, um, 1s I was steak and butter girl of watched her as well. Uh, Anthony Chaffee. 1s You know, I thought that these stealth, these people can't all be wrong. You know, they can't all be wrong. Like, you know, these are people who've had serious autoimmune diseases. 2s They start to eat nothing but make. And within weeks, months, they're feeling better and their symptoms have gotten less. And in some cases, their symptoms have gone completely. And I thought, I have to look at this because after five years on keto, and here's the very strange thing about it I play the guitar. 1s And during the years of my diabetes, I didn't give up teaching the guitar. 3s I can no longer play it. And, um. 3s Get ten months at the kiddo, I was able to go back to the guitar, but this is the holiday left hand that I used for playing chords and things off the fretboard. But I can finger pitch as you can see. You can see my nails here. Like I've got sort of long nails for them on the finger. Particular guitar. Um, this hand here, although I could finger patch, 1s I seem to have a touch of arthritis. And this thumb here. 1s At the source of the worst of the arthritis. Jennifer Aniston told her to let them whatever it was on TikTok and a few times on keto. Very last vegetables, uh, vegetables. They remember what they'd have in the mail and there was no vegetables on the planet except for lettuce. 1s And later that evening, that's felt better. 1s You know, and that sort of stuck with me last festival, and that seems to get better. So that at the whole notion in my head of going can offer, uh, this lingering bit of arthritis was left in the rectum or had jumped from the left over to the right or whatever. I thought, I'll try the cardboard diet to see what happens. So at the end of 2022, I started to reduce the vegetables. I didn't go Slayton until the kind of odd overnight out of the flat, but then overnight 1s started about the end of November 2022. I had reduced the vegetables the way we died, and I was taken. Literally not. And only someone, maybe small amount of onion and a small amount of mushroom. But by January the 7th, 2023, full carnivore, I went full carnivore. Um, I didn't want to have too bad of a reaction. And, um. 1s Let me digest. 1s But I see that a lot of people get problem because of warranty and very, very easily. And the fact that I was on a keto diet for five years, I wasn't covered for the standard Western sort of. I was calling for a Cheeto and I, which wasn't too bad. And, um. 1s I've been carnivore ever since. The old arthritis is going nowhere completely. A favorite reality is gone. Um. Asleep. Better. 1s The thing about caregiver is the kitchen doesn't get steamed up anymore with vegetables. When you're boiling vegetables and things like this, we've got these two air fryers I don't have to tell you run by steak as beautiful coming out of them. Air fryer is just 12 minutes and it's absolutely delicious stories and hates I some people if you already asked them what they had they ate last Thursday, they wouldn't be able to tell you. I can't tell you that. Rubbery steak and eggs, probably 4 or 5 eggs, fried eggs, um, small amount of butter and plenty of Redmond's real salt. 1s And. And that's from me. I can learn at one meal a day very, very easily. No. 1s I've enjoyed it. Three meals a day and certainly two boiled eggs in the morning time with a coffee and black coffee. And, uh, I have made it at 3:00 that meal, one by 3:00 and the rest of the evening only water or something to drink, you know. But that's something I want to go back to my diabetes years. That would scare you. Like the way I had to learn. 1s Ah, 1s there was a the electric went off here one day and I and I nearly had a heart attack. I hesitate to find out what the hypos. 1s You know, because I was on the medications at that time, I was in the middle of the worst of the diabetes and, um. 1s I actually spent a lot of, say, 600, kind of think of all the electric hubs and gas hubs, just to make sure that if the electric ever goes off again, I'll still be able to eat. 1s You know, that's how crazy a bull she had and keep beating. If he doesn't lead for a certain length of time, you started to get dizzy. You started to go to the hippo. So then he had to take these wee lozenges. Sugar sweets. 1s They bring it back up again to make you feel sort of half normal again. So it was like a case of, um, take the medications, you take the medications, your blood sugar goes down with eight carbs, your blood sugar goes up. Take the medications, your blood sugar. So you're leveling up that seesaw thing, you know, and I don't know, that's a horrible way to be loved. You know, the fear I may not be able to eat. 1s And today I could go three days without it wouldn't cost me. You know, and some people would say to me, you're not worried about your blood sugars getting too low. No, no worries whatsoever. The blood sugars going down to 3.8. And that does not mean there is no I didn't get does say there was no shakes anymore. There was none of the stuff that I had during the years that I was taking the medications on the diabetes and all it, all the life. It's not only just got my health back. I got my life back. I'm back again to play the guitar again. So I'm out of town. 2s I've got energy. I love this way of eight month. But I'm actually on the road that have to say here that because I'm already on 15 months. 1s But it's been a great 15 months, so it has. And, uh, all the podcasts, I listen to them all so that I do as much research as I can on it. Um. 1s There must not be part of. 1s Subconscious fear in the back of the head, one might be able to look for it and just let. 1s Without anything else, without vegetables or without anything else. And then I reminded myself that. 2s Nearly seven years ago, when the alternative to the keto diet I remember 7.8 a kilo Manila and the others thinking to myself afterwards, Will I be able to live on this? 1s Well, five years on it, I didn't starve. You know, uh, doing one meal a day. Probably have done one meal a day for about the best part of five years. So have you know. And I still do it. But two meals a day. 1s And I can look very good on that. Fabulous. I mean, that's fabulous. And, uh, it does make me very proud of you. It also frustrates me as a diabetes specialist practitioner. I hear this all the time where people have followed the guidelines. They've had years of feeling hungry, being dizzy, taking the taking the advice and getting absolutely nowhere and getting worse, and such a simple intervention like keto. And then even better with carnivore. Your story is is
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unique, but it's really common. I hear it all the time and it it does make my blood boil a little bit that people like the Diabetes Association and, you know, it's terrible. The advice they're given is terrible. And, you know, so you, uh, touched on a nerve there. My stepfather, who was my real dad's brother after my dad died very young. My mum, uh, remarried, believe it or not. So I am hamlet in one way. Uh, he got diabetic. He had a toe amputated. So, you know, that point as, uh, retouched me as well, because I've had it in the family. It's. If I knew then what I know now, of course, that wouldn't have happened. So fabulous. Now, I think there's a really interesting thing that you've probably not spotted, but I have, because I'm listening intently. You talked about your fibromyalgia, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. You talked about your arthritis in your thumb, talked about obviously your type two diabetes, and you have not mentioned how much weight you've lost. And I think that is brilliant. You see, because everyone talks about the weight. And yes, we've got a picture of you with your trousers that are twice as big as your waist. Now, whether you know that health, you actually said you got your health back, you got your life back. Many people think this way of eating is a weight loss diet. And I always say weight loss is the side effect of being
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healthy, you know? Uh, well, um, whatever. I went on the keto diet five years ago. A lot of people back then and very and, uh, other people around Eric Berg, uh, they say it doesn't make weight loss your primary goal. So my primary goal was to get normal blood glucose levels without medications. Um, weight loss was a bonus. And I have to say I was 16 stone and wet. 1s So it was. And within about eight months on the keto diet alone, I went from 16 stone right down there by ten and a half stone. Was that late months and that was without doing any exercise whatsoever. Not a pack of exercise. I think they ruined the end of that year. I went to a doctor, and a doctor was amazed by the weight loss. And he says, are you doing any exercise? And I says, no. I said, But I'm thinking, I'm going back to the pen. I says, look, you know, swimming. He says, that's good. 1s Well. So then. So then I went to the leisure centre and a swim every day. Um, not the burning of calories. Certainly not enough to burn calves or anything else. Just for the simple reason that. 1s I couldn't do it. 1s That was a celebration. Of what? Of what I'm now capable of being able to do what you couldn't do before. You know, all during the years we all during them years were whereas software 1s at it was I wasn't going anywhere. I was in the house most of the time. I wasn't going out to. I'm very low budget. Um, I had no energy, you know, I just exhausted from morning to night and with three meals a day and two b snacks and between, you know, got my snack in the morning. But 11:00 in the morning after my breakfast, my snack was one banana and a cup of coffee with a teaspoonful of brown sugar, because somebody told me that brown sugar is not as bad as white sugar, which was absolutely bonkers, was absolutely crazy, you know? And, uh. 1s I can't say that. A lot of coffee. 1s I think I know the sugar, you know, because whenever the sugar was removed from the coffee, it took me away to get the taste for coffee. And yet without with no sweeteners and sugars and, you know, and that sort of thing. But no, weight loss wasn't the primary goal. But as a lovely bonus, it's a beautiful bonus. So, as you know, even after seven years, almost. Oh, still keeping us still keeping that weight off like any effort, you know, don't count carbs anymore. That's what I like about the kind of our diet on the keto diet and how they keep me carbs 20 below 20g a day. But then a city we can't unwearable exists. You don't have to climb shelters if you don't take another pill to level the turnover diet. There's no need to count anymore. You don't cost. Brilliant. Yeah. That's brilliant. I'm going to actually write that down. You don't need to count carbs if you're not eating them. Just for the American viewers. Uh, in the UK, we're talking stones and pounds about 16 stone. There's there's £14 in a stone. So that was £224 you were at and you've lost about £77. Yeah. When you went from 16 stone to ten and a half. And you're right about, you know, the fact that the weight loss, although we're not
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going to focus on it because there's too many other great things, but people are interested in it. Um, you know, you don't have to exercise and people get that phrase wrong. They think we're saying exercise bad. No, we're not saying that at all. What we're saying is, is the weight comes off very easily once you go from high carb down to low carb. It's that simple. And it comes off and it comes off quite easily. And you mentioned when you're eating that food, you know, you still felt hungry and you still look dizzy. And here you are eating less. All right. At the time like a nomad is a big feast a ribeye, six eggs Redmond salt. It's a great meal already nutritious. Um, and then people
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think, well,
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you're going to be hungry later and you're not. You know, it's a big surprise to a lot of
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people. 1s A star. That's a strange. Like 1s you're just not hungry. You're just. You're not eating because you're not hungry. You're not starving yourself, that's for sure. There's absolutely no starvation. Um, there is no hunger. Uh, nowadays, whenever I do get hungry, it's it's a more natural, normal kind of hunger. And while it means being prepared, uh, and walking up and down the floor anymore like a caged lamb. You know, if something happened and I wasn't able to eat that meal, or somebody came to the door and I wasn't able to eat that, maybe it's no big deal. I can wait, that can wait. There's no way. There's no urgency in the way there was when I suffered with the diabetes, and I was living on a standard Western diet, you know. Oh, how to eat a how to eat. Like, you know, I have to eat if I don't eat anything. You know, that was all that craziness all the time. Like eating and eating. Mhm. But is that right? Not anymore. It's a great experience. I'm nodding away because I've been there. Absolutely, I would be. My wife will attest to this. When I was high carb before dinner, I'd have a sandwich. You know, it's it's it's a crazy way to live. And this is so much simpler, by the way, I just want to namecheck doctor Sarah Halberg, the Ted talk you mentioned. Really ironic. I haven't watched that for many years, and I watched it yesterday. I didn't know you would bring her up. Um, that's a really good talk, and I'll put a link in the description to that if you want to see a fantastic, passionate talk about reversing type two diabetes. You also, I mean, you reversed nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, which, you know, you're eating meat, allegedly. You can't improve your liver and, uh, in your diabetes, eating meat. But you you did everything.
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You got rid of arthritis, you got your triglycerides down. You can now play the guitar. It's it's just a brilliant story, really, isn't it? And do you find people around you, friends and family support you, or still think it's crazy?
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Uh, a lot of my family think is crazy, like the old chair, but I could never be one of them. But the back of the fatty liver disease. That was 2015. The doctor said to me, sorry, I got bad news for you. And he says, you've got non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. No, sorry. He said, you've got fatty liver disease, first of all. 1s And then he says to me, have you been drinking? The third stage statement I haven't had an alcoholic drink for about 20 years. As we talk at the moment, I'm 32 years since I've had my last alcoholic drink. I'm a record alcoholic. I don't mean to say that. Um, so I thought to myself, was it maybe I've got the liver disease because of the drinking around 20 years ago. 1s I sent out to the doctor, he says, well, he says that's a possibility, which goes to show how much he knew, you know. And he says, I've got some other news for you. What does that insist of at the hospital is there's an 18 month waiting list to see a consultant. 1s So there was a left in 2015 with fatty liver disease. No chance of seeing a consultant for 18 months though the year after that, in 2016, sadly, my father died from Alzheimer's. I had watched him crossover from type two diabetes over what's now commonly known as type three diabetes. The last six years of his life was spent in a nursing home, and he didn't know any of us. 1s And he died. And. 2s After he died. You know, I watched what happened to London. 2s He doesn't know about keto. He didn't know about carnivore. He didn't know about any of them things they didn't know it was the calves, like the mother said. I mean, all day she scripted everybody, right, she says. But he still loves his bread and his jam and his Kit Kat and his Kit Kat bars. 1s An attempt to take a flinch at me, because at that time and way back then, I knew nothing about type two diabetes, and I knew nothing about Alzheimer's. But I know that probably what happened to my father as he crossed over because he kept on eating. 1s The sugar, the carbohydrates, the bread, the jam, the potatoes that all them sort of things, and chocolate. His diabetes got worse and worse and worse, regardless of the medications that he was on for type two diabetes. And that's what killed him. So it was a good incentive for me in 2017 when the the when I said that I could reverse when we did not what the university made us. You know, when there's a possibility that you can go out with your type three diabetes, which always known as Alzheimer's, you know, you he could be sure. I was very glad to go to reverse because I don't want to go the way he went, you know. Um. But fatty liver? There is no cure for funny liver disease. There is no cure for the end result. Does liver failure? Or as some somebody says, you end up waiting for somebody to get a transplant. 1s And I didn't want to look that way, so that we told for months into the keto diet that my fatty liver disease. 1s And had 1s and gone. No. At this time, my sister. My daughter. How do you know that? And he says, I can tell by your things on your or your or your results. But I wasn't happy with that. I wanted to go back and get a little scam. They make sure I was already gone and I asked them to send me for a scam. This is okay, I'll send you for the scan. Went back to the scan and they were doing the scan on my. 1s And the girl and the nurse who was doing the scanner wasn't saying anything. And I said, there. 1s Those big fatty liver. 1s And she looked around at Manchester's what? Fatty liver? 1s She says, Mr. President, you don't have any lover. I just thank you. And then I thought I made someone else's 1s house. A enlarged prostate. 1s She says. I can't say that. She says if I was enlarged, I would see it, she says. And I'm not seeing it. That is another thing I forgot to mention. No more enlarged prostate gone. 2s Wow. Yeah.
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And you and you summed up the ridiculous mainstream medical view is there's no cure for fatty liver. And yet they see it. When people eat this way, it reverses. And I'm
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always I
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always have to say this because 99% of the comments are really good. I always get 1% of comments and they're ignorant. I've got to be honest, and I never used to be that blunt with people.
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But yeah. Is
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it cured? Yes, but they often say, but not if you went back to the way it was eating, it would come straight back.
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Well,
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that's a ridiculous statement. Yes. It's cured. We can say cured.
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Right. 1s Hello, Stella. As I say, I have a recovered alcoholic. 2s I will never die. I will never die from alcoholism. As long as I don't go back to drinking alcohol. 1s And it's the same thing for me as a diabetic. I'll never die from diabetes. If I don't go back to the cause of it. Which is? Carbohydrates, starches, sugars, vegetable oils, steroids. If I don't go back to eating any of that stuff. 1s I'm not gonna die from diabetes. That's a simple idea. I treated the same way as alcoholism. Personally, I do. I don't mind if other people don't agree with that or don't. That's okay. But for me, I. 32 years ago, I had to accept that I could no longer drink alcohol safely. I had to fully accept that in order to recover from alcoholism. And I did not. So I treated the same way with the type two diabetes. I had the three, except that I checked for the rest of my life one day at a time. Eat carbohydrates again. I just can't do it. I can't handle the same as the alcohol I can't handle. So it added up their perspective and it is work for my son. I just take it the same way one day at a time. You know, I don't have the carbs today. I don't have to drink alcohol today and I'm happy. You know what's going to happen tomorrow or next year? I'm not worried about it. You know I'm not.
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Yes. Now, um, we we went over your family a little bit, but you want to get back to the nonalcoholic fatty liver, and I absolutely agree with that. But I do want to ask a bit more about your family, because it sounds like your wife was very supportive. Was she supportive when you went from keto to carnivore? And, and you also said some of the people think you're crazy, even though they've seen all these brilliant things happen to
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you know very, very well that so they're, they're very, very pleased with. 3s Getting back to my wife. Um, whenever I went. 3s She went keto. What's that? 1s You know, she was not asking me to do something that she wasn't willing to do herself. She went keto as well. And when I went carnivore, this word. 1s The good lady was carried over as well. Now she's had her own medical issues over the years. Um, abs. 1s APS is completely gone. But here's another thing about keto. When I was all keto, I always felt bloated after eating the vegetables and not since I went the carnivore. There's no gluten. And I must say that ladies, if I do fart at an event, it doesn't happen that often anymore. You know, I go to the toilet about once every three days. That's. And it's good. So what else? Um, my wife was the wife. I don't think I'd be sitting here today having this conversation, because during the early years of the diabetes, it was actually harder than the research. She went looking for a way out, chasing what was happening with the health service, the way they were, like, helping me here. And she she thought that there must be some other way because he's taking the medications he's eating the way they told him to, and he's getting worse. So she started to look for answers. That was her. That was the wife who found the answers, you know. And she still supports me to this day as regards the rest of my family. 2s Let's take, for example, the lost, a brother last year to leukemia. Me? He was next in years. The man 67. He was 66. Last year he was 65. And, uh, when I went over to the hospital and he was on the deathbed and the brothers and sisters were all sitting around the deathbed, one of my sisters looked up and she says, go. And probably, who would have known that you're the one that was going to become the healthiest? 2s Out of all the following, you are going to become the healthiest. Wow. 1s Yes, we thought that would be either would be them first and not care, you know and go asking like the dumb. But 1s they can accept that. But they'll really believe that you know. No no no, no one believes that you can love the rest of your life, but that even carbohydrates that you need, your carbs, that you can just love and baked all day and things like that that they probably think is crazy. So that, you know, but they're not coming in saying anything to me. I know they're not saying you shouldn't do it either. Like, you know, things are happy for me. You know, that I'm good over the day and business and that sort of thing and the thing, the weight loss that I've had them. 2s Yes. Yes. Yes.
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You are a brilliant example of this way of eating. And I love your attitude. And it's great you've got a supportive wife. So
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we're we're we're
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kindred spirits in that way. Because my wife looks after me left, right and center and is always pointing out who I should interview and, uh, things she's seen on the internet. So, um, it's great to have, you know, behind every great man, there's a fantastic woman. That's a great phrase, isn't it? Right now, Rudy, that is it for today. I think that's a fabulous interview. I really enjoyed it. Can't believe the amount of things that you've reversed and improved. Um, I really have enjoyed your story, and I hope we can keep in touch and maybe in a year's time, do an update
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and thank you for.