Dear Daughters of God

Angels Walk Among Us; One Woman's True Story Of Heavenly Help

• Stephanie Eccles • Season 1 • Episode 23

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In this episode of Dear Daughters of God, Suzanne Bates shares her powerful journey from extreme despair to triumph, grounded in her faith and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Amidst her struggles with health, addiction, and domestic violence, Suzanne's story touches on her personal experiences with angels, the power of light, and the spiritual significance of the temple. Now working as a natural health expert, she continues to inspire others with her testimony of Jesus Christ's love.


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Stephanie:

Hello, I am Stephanie Eccles. This is Dear Daughters of God. Welcome. We're so glad you're here.

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of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Welcome, Dear Daughters of God. I address you that way because that's what you are to Him. To our Heavenly Father, you are dear.

Stephanie:

Today we have a guest I'm thrilled to introduce my dear friend, Suzanne Bates. Welcome Suzanne.

Suzanne Bates:

Thank you for having me, Stephanie.

Stephanie:

oh, I'm so thrilled to have you here. I was attending a women's event that Stacey Harmer was hosting. She has a group called Vibrant Living and Suzanne was the guest lecturer. Suzanne was talking about how she went from being very ill to becoming very healthy and vibrant and I was so impressed with her lecture. I went and met her at the end and we've become fast friends and it's enriched my life having her friendship. she's going to share part of her life with us today. Suzanne Bates is the mother of four children. She worked as an ICU nurse. Emergency room nurse for several years. Her story of rising out of extreme despair to ultimately triumph over mental anguish and death itself is a testament to the power and reality of Jesus Christ. Her journey gives unique, though not uncommon, Perspective on the reality of angels, the power of light and the temple, specifically how they are intertwined. She works as a natural health expert at Renew Wellness and Vitality Nutrition. She has nearly completed a doctor of naturopathy, Congratulations, Suzanne!

Suzanne Bates:

you.

Stephanie:

I know you're very close. when are you going to graduate?

Suzanne Bates:

So I should be done by May.

Stephanie:

May. So soon. So soon. Yes. Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. And I know you're already seeing patients, like we said, at Renew Wellness. I like having you here. So be sure to like and subscribe so you can receive every video. See you soon. Now, Suzanne, tell us why you feel compelled to share portions of your life.

Suzanne Bates:

Okay, it's true that I haven't spoken openly about things that I'm going to talk about today because they are very sacred in nature and they're sacred to me yet as has gone by and the years have started to pass, the despair in many of the people I see and, you know, those that I interact with. I thought I know something that maybe not everyone knows and maybe my story and, and experiences someone and, take away discouragement and fear. Actually, I think I hope to be able to. To spell fear in people and I, I felt like this is the right time to do it and, and like I said, it, it will just be part of what I've experienced, but, but I think it's meant to help someone Thank you for helping us understand the why. Why we are grateful that you're going to Answer that call today. Well, let's see, in our conversations, you've talked about a place of light, remembering as a child, memories of a place of light. Would you like to start there? Sure, So I, I remember being a young child, and interpreting life and my life experiences and being aware I had been in a place of light and knowing what part of that looked like. And I remember being with a man who. Walked down the main street that I would later grow up on with me and I Don't remember what he said, but I remember he was there and I remember he was invested in me and think maybe preparing me is what it's felt like and I thought I I started to wonder as a child, where is that light? Where is that man? I don't remember not remembering the light and the feeling of the light is what I have been allowed to remember. The bliss, are uncomfortable here because we originate from bliss, complete bliss, we're uncomfortable here because that's where we come from. And I've known that my whole life, that I've come from a place of light, you know, I, I know that,

Stephanie:

What, what an incredible advantage to have this understanding you don't even remember a time where you didn't understand this. So since the very beginning of your life, you remember this

Suzanne Bates:

I

Stephanie:

and, who do you think this person was, this man?

Suzanne Bates:

So I have not been allowed to remember his face, but I, I think of him as an angel. Maybe it was the savior. And, and, you know, wouldn't that be a beautiful thing if it were, I think that the savior has angels who are so invested in our transition to this life. And our preparation for this life, and I think that that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, right? We know we came the pre existence. We know we've been with God, and so why would God just throw us into an experience without preparing us first? it would make sense and we don't even need to know the details of how that happened other than to know, know, of course God would be preparing us. Or helping us in every way that he could to integrate into this experience of life here. Yeah, and so, it's beautiful to think about that. Yes.

Stephanie:

and, and, and this, this man certainly, I mean, you could refer to him as one of those angels and the temple, and the sounds of angels voices in the temple, how did that come together for you? Hmm. Hmm.

Suzanne Bates:

we weren't great. We were pretty good, but we weren't amazing. was part of the choir hence the fact that we weren't probably great. And knew what we sounded like because we practiced several weeks together. And when we got into the celestial room, as I singing, we heard, and it just, it was not just me. It was many of the choir heard an angel. It wasn't one, it was angelic voices. And they were and they were, and they pierced our souls. We were weeping. We knew something incredible had just happened. And so as a 20 year old, I'm thinking, just heard that with my ear, my own ear we, said to each other, members of the choir, did you just hear that sound? so many of us, yes, there were angels, we heard it and people in the congregation. In fact, I had a family member we were talking about, she was in the congregation with my aunts and, she said that she heard it. And so there's something there that's beautiful. And I've remembered that sound and I've remembered that it happened. And I thought day. God knows I heard that sound.

Stephanie:

Hmm.

Suzanne Bates:

witnessed that I've heard that sound,

Stephanie:

Hmm.

Suzanne Bates:

so I can't ever deny that I've heard that sound.

Stephanie:

So it's another testament to you that God was aware of you and gave you, another miracle in your life, that angels were around you, watching over you, singing beside you

Suzanne Bates:

Right.

Stephanie:

by your side,

Suzanne Bates:

Right.

Stephanie:

a tender mercy.

Suzanne Bates:

For sure.

Stephanie:

Yes.

Suzanne Bates:

So.

Stephanie:

Elder Holland has talked about calling down angels.

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah,

Stephanie:

you have an experience with elder Holland and angels. Will you tell us about that experience?

Suzanne Bates:

Yes. that's such a powerful experience. I ended up as a nursing student at Primary Children's Hospital and had a very, very sick boy, and it was. Just towards the end of his life, suffering was continuing and it was so excruciating the cancer for him and they were running out of things to do and to help him. it was like this terrible emotional whiplash where a mother doesn't want to let go of their child. And yet. You know, it's like sending them off into the unknown, kind of a feeling. And so I was in

Stephanie:

Okay.

Suzanne Bates:

felt it. It felt

Stephanie:

As if someone was standing there we know how it feels.. the room was full that boy died within a few minutes. I was so stunned by that experience

Suzanne Bates:

I went home and immediately told my family, I can't believe what just happened. I can't believe I just saw it, you know. And so for years and years and years, it was another piece of angels in my life. And it just has added testimony of the way that they can be called down. We can ask for them individually, we can call, you know, down and and ask our heavenly father to send them. And I think just by requesting their help, that we feel it even even greater.

Stephanie:

Yes. Oh, that must have been a remarkable experience to be in that room, with the mother and the little boy,

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

and as that, and witness that miracle with the angels coming.

Suzanne Bates:

It was, it left an impression, for sure. Yeah.

Stephanie:

talked about a glass building. A glass building. Tell us about that. What is that about?

Suzanne Bates:

There was a night that I went to sleep after I'd been engaged, and I hadn't been endowed yet. And I, I feel bad that I'm saying this, but the truth was I was putting off being in doubt because I thought, you know, I'm not really sure that I want to wear garments. Of course, I'm going to wear them, but maybe I'll put it off a little bit longer kind of a

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm

Suzanne Bates:

It isn't great, but it is what it is. And I went to sleep one night and I was, I was taken to a glass building above the Great Salt Lake. There were windows. that faced east, and so I could see the temple in Bountiful, and the temple in Salt Lake lit up, and the rays were just coming, just powerful rays, and straight up, and I, and I still remember that so well, and I, in this dream, I, I, I was able to see people driving around, I could see cars driving around, could see a parking lot of the Bountiful temple. could see there weren't many people there and angels, this angel was in white, pure white, brighter than the new day sun, And there's no, nobody needs to, to move their lips to talk. It was just, there's an understanding of thoughts and

Stephanie:

there's a lot of culture there. And there's a lot of, you know, fiscal instruments, there's a lot of pushing for there's a lot of pushing for more population training, and technical culture that's needed to be And I think that's something that we need to have a conversation about. I think we need to have about that. I'm going to announce

Suzanne Bates:

in, they don't Because I, You know, I had

Stephanie:

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Suzanne Bates:

myself. And so I've gone from the knowledge of here's, I've heard an angel. actually communicated with the angel. I looked down, I've been shown the power of the temple. And this is where I know for a fact that things I've been shown have me alive, have kept me from giving up It was so painful. I ended up many people in domestic violence with extreme emotional and mental dysfunction. And so I'd gone from thriving To, all of a sudden, living in a nightmare. Oh, was there anyone to reach out to Suzanne The thing that's so interesting is, it started slow, it started slow. And my attachment was so tight to him, I had dated so many people, said no to different people and, and married. And I realize now I didn't love myself enough to probably choose the best person for me, but I was also on top of that deceived by him. And so ended up with a very wounded person who I wish well, of course, but I had, I, I completely lost my ability to function like a normal person. I mean, I ended up dependent and then addicted to medication after a C section and,

Stephanie:

Oh, like, pain type medication.

Suzanne Bates:

yeah, yep.

Stephanie:

Oh.

Suzanne Bates:

And so it was during the time where it's being given out to everyone. So it was like, take this, take this, take this. And then I have to go back to work. baby was two and a half weeks old and so my incision never healed properly. So I ended up having to have. It taken care of again. And then the pain medication just kept being prescribed.

Stephanie:

Oh, dear.

Suzanne Bates:

yeah. it was what's happened in the following years. I stayed with the same person in addiction, my own addiction, his addiction to something else, just free falling, thinking I, I don't deserve God's love anymore. like many women in domestic violence, believe it was my fault and, and if you're told it's your fault, secretly inside you also believe it's your fault, it just destroys your sense of fighting for anything good in your life. And so for me, my husband broke me and paraded me in my dysfunction I ended up becoming extremely Sick, physically, mentally, emotionally, I came to the marriage thriving and I left disabled. I

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

I'll never be deserving of God's love again, I, going to church and just did not feel, didn't feel worthy of things. I think I thought about these experiences with light. I thought about angels, but I felt so far away knowing how do I get back

Stephanie:

Okay. Oh, here we go.

Suzanne Bates:

Harder and harder to breathe. So it was if I was going underground and all of a sudden things were crushing in around me and I could not breathe, was not breathing. And there was angel greeted me and was the bliss all over again. There was There was clarity about who I am. Wait a minute, I might be worth fighting for because

Stephanie:

Hmm. Okay.

Suzanne Bates:

loved by these people that are greeting me. And I, I'm so loved and I was taken up and I was shown things. And I can't talk about everything I was shown, but I can say

Stephanie:

and hmm

Suzanne Bates:

all the places. I'm, I'm still not, I, I was shown many things, so this is just kind of of those things that I, I was shown everyone at once, all of their feelings and thoughts as well as them at once. So I could feel what everyone was feeling, and I could see this tremendous pull with humanity trying to be dissuaded by the dark spirits that were around, those trying to live and work on this earth here. To do their work here. There were glorious angels helping and assisting those that are here on earth in a myriad of ways. And so

Stephanie:

when we feel alone we're not alone That's one of the reasons I wanted to come on here just to let everyone know suffering we are not alone we can be strengthened when things go terribly wrong As long as As long as we yoke ourselves to Jesus Christ we have no reason to fear, we have no reason to fear All is

Suzanne Bates:

well.

Stephanie:

We can't comprehend how precious and priceless we are but I think so that really helped me to fight through physical, emotional, and mental challenges as I tried to get better when I came back into my body I took a breath so uncomfortable, I have no idea how long I held my breath but I remember coming back in my body and immediately just yearning for where I'd been. What just happened to me? You know.. So I think about this experience several times

Suzanne Bates:

I think one of the biggest problems we have is we live our lives from a place of not understanding our value as a human being and our worth. I

Stephanie:

had so

Suzanne Bates:

much healing that happened after that. Significant healing,

Stephanie:

spiritual and physical healing.

Suzanne Bates:

And even though things, you know, there were bumps in the road and happened, I was well on my way. that, because how do you go through that and think about it every day, long or short, and not just think, maybe I'm okay, maybe I'm a little bit better than I think I am. In fact, you know, I might be really special.

Stephanie:

Suzanne says that our biggest problem is that we do not understand our worth. There was a wonderful sermonette given in our latest general conference this last April. It was given by. Sister Tamara W. Runia the first counselor in the young women's general presidency, she titled her Sermonette, Your Repentance Doesn't Burden Jesus Christ. It Brightens His Joy she teaches this principle of worth and repentance, We're going to concentrate on the worth part with such simplicity, she uses physical actions to drive home her point. So I've cut just a clip of her sermonette so you can both see it and hear the simple way in which she teaches this beautiful principle. Here it is.

Tamara Runia:

He delights to forgive because to him we are delightful. Don't you just feel that's true? Then why is it so hard for us to believe Satan? The great accuser and deceiver uses shame to keep us from God. Shame is a darkness so heavy. It feels that if you took it out of your body, it would have an actual weight or heft to it. Shame is the voice that beats you up saying, what were you thinking? Do you ever get anything right? Shame doesn't tell us we made a mistake. It tells us we are our mistakes. You may even hear hide. The adversary does everything in his power to keep the heaviness inside telling us the cost is too high, that it'll be easier if this stays in darkness. Removing all hope, Satan is the thief of hope, and you need to hear this. So I'll say these words out loud. You are not the voice in your head. Or the mistakes you have made, you may need to say that out loud too. Tell Satan, not today. Put him behind you. Feel that. Pull the Godly sorrow that turns you towards your savior and watch his grace enter into your life and the lives of those you love. I promise the minute we bring a broken heart courageously towards him, he is immediately there. If you saw someone drowning, wouldn't you reach your handout to rescue them? Could you imagine your savior rejecting your outstretched hand? I imagine him diving into the water descending below. All things to lift us up so we can take a fresh breath. No one can sink lower than the light of Christ shines. Our savior is forever brighter than the darkness of shame, and he would never attack your worth. So watch closely imagine that this hand represents worth and this hand represents obedience. Maybe you woke up this morning, said meaningful prayer. Search the scriptures to hear God's voice. You've made good decisions and are treating the people you live with. With Christlikeness, you're listening to general conference. Your obedience is here. Or maybe things haven't gone so well. You've struggled lately to do the small, simple things to connect to heaven. Maybe you've made some decisions you weren't proud of. Where is your worth? Has this hand moved at all? Your worth isn't tied to obedience. Your worth is constant. It never changes. It was given to you by God, and there's nothing you or anyone else can do to change it. Obedience does bring blessings. That is true, but worth isn't one of them. Your worth is always great in the sight of God no matter where your decisions have taken you over here. And while I make mistakes, I want to stay in covenant relationship with Christ, and I'll tell you why. I grew up taking diving lessons and learned that when judges score a dive, they watched the execution with the entry perfectly vertical, with toes pointed and a small splash. Then they do something extraordinary. They factor in the degree of difficulty. Everyone is diving with their own degree of difficulty, and your savior is the only one who truly knows the difficulty you are diving with. I want a relationship with the one person who gets me. Who knows my heart and how hard I'm trying.

Stephanie:

Wasn't Sister Runia? Terrific. So our worth is constant. It was given to us by God, the very one who truly understands the level of difficulty of each one of our individual lives, and it cannot be taken away. It is the adversary, the great accuser that would like us to believe that our mistakes are who we are, and that is a lie. We are not our mistakes. Obedience does bring blessings, but it is not tied to our self-worth. Our self-worth is constant. Now back to the interview. I became obsessed with understanding physical light, spiritual light, and all of that. I, I felt impressed last October to go out every morning I have seasonal affective disorder. So every year for 40, 45 days. You know, when the winter comes, I become just, I blow energy grumpy. eating everyone's pie. I'm, you know, I'm doing Even my pecan pie.

Suzanne Bates:

oh yeah, I'd be down

Stephanie:

Oh, good. I need help eating it because no one else in my house will eat it. I found, I found my pie friend.

Suzanne Bates:

You have, you have, you have these ones.

Stephanie:

Okay. Sorry. I

Suzanne Bates:

sure.

Stephanie:

got up. I got up. Sorry. So, so, so you, you get in the slump and you want to eat every, everything.

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah, I get in the slum, I want to eat everything. And

Stephanie:

Okay. Okay.

Suzanne Bates:

You know, I can't move to Florida, maybe if I go out in the morning, now at this point, I still have diabetes. This point, blood pressure had come down quite a bit, but my kidney numbers weren't that great. They, and so going out in the morning, I ended up finding this incredible source of healing for my body through infrared light and red light. And through just the practice, I developed a small practice where I go out and I feel like, you know, we have those mornings when we get up and maybe we don't like ourselves that much that day. But

Stephanie:

huh.

Suzanne Bates:

go out and for me, it was like, Heavenly Father, I'm here. Will you help me today to like myself enough to do the right things today for myself? And regain the hope and to remember the power, that is around us so that I don't, you know, have to lose hope. And in going out every morning, I, I healed so much of my PTSD

Stephanie:

Oh.

Suzanne Bates:

and things that I'm now teaching my clients, but I had such severe PTSD. I could barely, I remember rolling myself up in blankets because I didn't want the air.

Stephanie:

Oh my, yes, now, how, how do you go out? How early?

Suzanne Bates:

I'm going to go out in the sunrises and I

Stephanie:

Let's.

Suzanne Bates:

and I have something to meditate on to try to get my mind to practice holding still for a minute and just being in and being there with my Heavenly Father, Savior. And read scriptures about light and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, Then often I am to get myself into a state of gratitude, you know, in studying this as a wellness professional, I've, are so many amazing things gratitude does for the body physiologically, we're talking, it lowers the blood pressure, but the most significant thing that gratitude did and does for me is it takes me out of fight or flight every morning.

Stephanie:

Mm.

Suzanne Bates:

I think often if you have a history of abuse or trauma in some way, wake up with kind of this sense of dread. And so being able to center myself, being able to be okay with what's happening during the day and days and days and days and days of that, the, it's been a precious experience for me every morning to go out and it feels like. the most brilliant light show every morning and

Stephanie:

Really?

Suzanne Bates:

snows and I go out and my neighbors think I'm crazy, it's okay, your neighbors think you're crazy, and I accidentally got rid of my diabetes using sunlight,

Stephanie:

Accidentally.

Suzanne Bates:

accidentally,

Stephanie:

Accidentally.

Suzanne Bates:

I,

Stephanie:

that's amazing. Hmm. Hmm.

Suzanne Bates:

better, and I thought, wait a minute, what's going on here, and then started to really research light and understand the power of infrared and red light, our eyes were meant to look upwards. We're meant to look towards the heaven. And when God commands us to do that, look to God and look and look, there's actually these cells built in to monitor this invisible magical light called infrared light. And light is incredible because it comes in into the eyes and immediately it's like we're an avatar, Stephanie. It, because we've got these intrinsically photosensitive retinal ganglion cells are there to take in that energy and they distribute it all over the body. And we know that it goes straight to the fetus. very best stuff is going to go straight to, to a developing baby So it's, it's just such a beautiful thing to understand that all of a sudden my energy was back. My energy was back. Now, it was not fun to go out in the cold in the beginning because

Stephanie:

Yeah. Because we live in Utah.

Suzanne Bates:

We live in Utah. It's so cold sometimes here.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

And so I found out I had to write up a contract for myself, which is something my, my dad would do all the time growing up. He'd make us type up and sign a contract that we were going to do something so I did that. And kids watch me sign it, and your kids watch you sign it, then you're

Stephanie:

Then you're,

Suzanne Bates:

trouble

Stephanie:

then you're stuck. I mean, you're, you can't do anything. If your kids watch you sign it. Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

So from October 9th, I said I was going to go out for 100 mornings and do just sunlight. And the, it's been amazing. amazing to see how my physical, mental, emotional, spiritual health has all improved.

Stephanie:

you did start with, meditating about what you're grateful for, which helps bring you out of fight or flight type of type of a state. Right? So what sort of things did you find you were grateful for? I mean, life was hard.

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah,

Stephanie:

You had what else?

Suzanne Bates:

I have so many things. It's embarrassing, Well, I don't have many of them anymore. But it's

Stephanie:

heart disease

Suzanne Bates:

How are you?

Stephanie:

were two of them.

Suzanne Bates:

And then my

Stephanie:

Yeah,

Suzanne Bates:

are failing.

Stephanie:

your kidneys were failing. So what sort of things were you grateful for? I don't mean to say that of course there were not things that, that you should be grateful for. Of course there were. I'm just curious, what things did you find, did you acknowledge that you were grateful for?

Suzanne Bates:

So I would find anything, anything that I can think of. And

Stephanie:

Okay. This

Suzanne Bates:

for my socks and for my soft blanket. Just my car keys not being lost and my phone not being lost. And I, and I thank him for, you know, really anything that I can think of. And the amazing part of this entire law and principle is that when we express gratitude to God, we are immediately blessed again. So I say thank you all day long and reasons to say thank you come all day long. And they come in amazing ways, you know, and there's obviously difficulty in life, it's part of being alive, but the beautiful things that come into my life that, that I think, you know, wow, like heaven, if we say thank you, heaven gives us so many reasons to, to keep saying thank you and,

Stephanie:

reminds me of, of the desperate times in education, like in, during COVID.

Suzanne Bates:

yeah,

Stephanie:

COVID, when it was really, really difficult and everyone went insane, you know, to, to a, to a certain level. So it's times like that. That's why I wanted to hear, what do, what were you grateful for? I have plenty of things to be grateful for, but I was just thinking of times when life was really hard.

Suzanne Bates:

when life is really hard, this is the way to survive it,

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

I think in just expressing gratitude for the scriptures and the power of the temple and really feeling what life would be like without temple and, then just allowing the excitement of the fact that we don't have to live life without the temple flow into us. And that gratitude, it literally heals the body. And so we've talked about, you know, we've got this internal pharmacy that our emotions just we have this, you know, adrenaline going and then different, different chemicals in the body causing different emotions and reactions. But if we can say, I'm thankful, I'm grateful, then the chemicals in the body actually returned to homeostasis. And so we can say, I'm thankful, I'm grateful, then the chemicals in the body actually returned to homeostasis. it's like a chemical override of the anxiety to, to practice gratitude to the point that you, feel it is very powerful

Stephanie:

I can relate to that. Just, in those times where I've been upset about something and then just had a time where I felt grateful for something and it's healed. It's healed my anger. Yes. Yes. It's amazing what, what changing the emotion can do to the whole body

Suzanne Bates:

right.

Stephanie:

physically. Yes.

Suzanne Bates:

it's like gratitude is allowing us to reframe our negative experiences,

Stephanie:

Mhm. Mhm. Right.

Suzanne Bates:

can reframe them. And they don't have power over us the same

Stephanie:

Mhm.

Suzanne Bates:

still.

Stephanie:

Mhm. Right.

Suzanne Bates:

fantastic tool,

Stephanie:

Yes, yes, You know, when, when I first met you, you were giving the lecture and talking about that 100 day challenge that you gave yourself

Suzanne Bates:

Oh,

Stephanie:

and I decided I've got to go out there. So I was, I was going out there and it was when it was very cold

Suzanne Bates:

wow.

Stephanie:

lots of precipitation and I didn't have coverage outside.

Suzanne Bates:

Perfect.

Stephanie:

so I was wearing my husband's big like parka that kind of looks like a sleeping bag and I, he took some pretty good pictures of me and we went on for several days, but I, I have lapsed. I have lapsed, so I'm going to have to write a contract.

Suzanne Bates:

It's

Stephanie:

I'm going to have to write a contract and get back on it.

Suzanne Bates:

I'll, maybe I can oversee the contract.

Stephanie:

I think you, I think that's the key.

Suzanne Bates:

for

Stephanie:

I have to show it to people.

Suzanne Bates:

You'll just have to show it to me.

Stephanie:

I'll show it to Suzanne. I'll show it to Suzanne. Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

S

Stephanie:

Yeah. I, I, I think for me, I might have to start with walking out there. It's easier for me to move.

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah,

Stephanie:

I'm moving, then I'm producing body heat

Suzanne Bates:

right.

Stephanie:

and I might have to start with that.

Suzanne Bates:

You know, it's so strange. Who would think that just going out in the morning for 10 to 15 minutes? would actually restore your sleeping habits that are poor, actually heal the body of inflammation in so many ways, will actually heal your heart and soul in so many ways. We know that it takes cortisol down when you're in this light, and that's the stress hormone, of course, so it is so powerful to to just be able to go out there and, experience this great gift that we have, It's there for us for free. So.

Stephanie:

It is. It is. It is there for us for free. There for us for free. It's amazing. you were going to talk about light within the scriptures that has touched your life. There was a scripture in Doctrine and Covenants chapter 88, right?

Suzanne Bates:

yeah, yeah, it

Stephanie:

Okay.

Suzanne Bates:

in verse 11, it says, And the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same light that quickeneth your understandings. Which light proceeded forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space, the light, which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed. Even the power of God sitteth upon his throne, is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things. I love that. love thinking about how light proceeds forth from the presence of God fills the immensity of space. I love it because I have seen it. I've seen it, and I know what I've seen. And

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Suzanne Bates:

and it's beautiful, and it's exquisite beyond our comprehension. And

Stephanie:

Yeah,

Suzanne Bates:

it's kind of like a comfort blanket for me to read these verses on difficult days. I

Stephanie:

yes.

Suzanne Bates:

verses. Yeah, for sure.

Stephanie:

I'm glad you point those out. I'm going to put those down as a scripture to refer to, to remind me of, the light of Christ

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah. Yeah.

Stephanie:

Suzanne, thank you for joining us today. It has been so fulfilling learning about the miracles you've received in your life. These tender mercies that prepared you for. Becoming a naturopathic doctor. And that helps you better understand how much our savior Jesus Christ loves us By giving us these angels around us and these miracles in your life that have taught you again and again, how much love there is, and the angels are there to comfort us, to love us, to cheer us on, and that we have this goodness about us, that it's not about the things we have or the way we look, but that we are there. This incredible being, just as we are, just as we are,

Suzanne Bates:

exactly.

Stephanie:

I'm so grateful for that. I hope that you will continue on in your studies and I have been motivated to get back outside before the sun rises

Suzanne Bates:

That's right.

Stephanie:

and get my infrared light every day.

Suzanne Bates:

right. Exactly.

Stephanie:

Yes,

Suzanne Bates:

great.

Stephanie:

with the scriptures added to that.

Suzanne Bates:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

Yeah. Yes. And for now we will say farewell until we meet again.

Suzanne Bates:

Sounds great. Thanks,

Stephanie:

bye everybody.