Dear Daughters of God

Accepting my Goddess Status | Unlocking The Divine Feminine

• Stephanie Eccles • Season 1 • Episode 26

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Accepting My Goddess Status | Unlocking the Divine Feminine with Heidi Degraffenried is more than a conversation—it's an awakening. 🌸✨

In this powerful episode of Dear Daughters of God, I sit down with women's development expert and author Heidi Degraffenried to explore what it truly means to step into our divine feminine identity. Heidi’s journey from invisibility and emotional burnout to clarity, purpose, and spiritual connection is one every woman needs to hear.

We discuss:

Breaking free from cultural and internal expectations

Finding strength through softness and spiritual grounding

What it looks like to receive divine love and embody your worth

How self-compassion can change your life

Her transformative book: The Goddess Code

Heidi reminds us that divine femininity is not just poetic—it's powerful, sacred, and needed in the world today.

💬 If you’ve ever felt like you're too much, not enough, or forgotten in the busyness of life, this episode will help you remember: you are divine, and your voice matters.

🎙️ Learn more about Heidi and her work: https://www.sherisecenter.com


Thanks for listening! I'm on Instagram as deardaughtersofgod. Follow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/invites/contact/?i=1iyjqx0cq4kbk&utm_content=qr66nqv

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Just thinking of us just waking up and thinking, wait a second, what am I bound by? Sometimes we're bound by other people's opinions. We're bound by duty. Were bound by. Cultural norms, we're bound by fear, where, lots of things are binding us. And if we can just shake off those binds.

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Welcome to Dear Daughters of God. This is Stephanie Eccles, your host

This is episode 26, accepting my goddess status, unlocking the divine Feminine with Heidi Degraffenreid.

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I am a retired school administrator

natural storyteller, and I am a daughter of God.

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Now, I tell the stories

of our lives from the perspective

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of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Welcome, Dear Daughters of God. I address you that way because that's what you are to Him. To our Heavenly Father, you are dear

Hello, listeners, you may not realize that this episode is on YouTube. Come watch this one. Heidi and I are on screen together in a heartfelt, inspiring conversation you won't want to miss. Look up the channel, dear daughters of God, and this episode accepting my goddess status. I hope to see you there and thank you for listening.

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Our guest today is Heidi Degraffenried, and we're so glad to have her. Heidi has written a book and I'm going to read to you a little bit of the book that's inspired me. But first I want to introduce Heidi and then have her say hello. Heidi de Graafenreid is a women's development expert with more than 25 years experience teaching women to gain self awareness, trust in her guidance, and maximize their greatest traits. Her goal is to unlock the best in women, to unlock the best in society. She is the author of The Goddess Code. and host of The Goddess Code podcast. She's been married to her husband, Jimmy, for 30 years. And is the mother of six plus three in law kids and grandma Cookie to four adorable grandkids. She loves hiking, yoga, travel, art, and attempting Pinterest projects. I can relate to that attempting Pinterest projects, Heidi. Welcome Heidi. Thank you for joining us.

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Thank you so much for having me, Stephanie. I'm delighted to be here and to speak to your audience and the beautiful daughters of God that I know they are.

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Oh, thank you. Thank you. Well, I want to hear about the inspiration for writing this book. The goddess

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it was a long time coming. It was the journey of life and in learning when I got married very young. I moved with my husband to the town where he was attending school and he was playing basketball and he was very, known in town everywhere we went, people wanted to. Talked to him and it was when they did it was if I wasn't even there. It's invisible and just on a daily basis I remember at the birth of our first son I'm trying to roll into a ball during a contraction so the Anesthesiologist can do an epidural and he's chatting with my husband about basketball I was a little angry about that and honestly, my husband was a little bit upset as well

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I can see why.

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It was always just that feeling of who I was. Wasn't important. It didn't matter. It was overlookable. And so then I feel like I spent from that time, just poured myself into trying to prove that I mattered in some way, being the best wife, the best mom, the best friend, the best PTA lady, the best church lady, whatever I could do to prove my value. And for probably about 15 years, I was in that state of just. Trying to be and trying to matter. And I reached a point after the birth of my sixth child, probably a couple of months after I was just wrecked. I was miserable. I was laying in bed and I was sick and I wasn't sure what was wrong. I had these pains in my abdomen that just were weird. They were unexplainable at the time. And I just remember thinking, I feel like I'm dying. I thought I must have cancer or some issues like that. And I was having this conversation with God and just going through the scenario in my mind of leaving behind this huge, Big young family and what that would mean to them. And just the heartbreak of that for me to not be here as a part of that. And I, it came to a point of surrender where I just said, I will be done. And I felt that surrender. And as my mind and heart quieted into that, I felt the answer come in my mind was almost like a question. Really, even if my will is for you to thrive and be happy. And that kind of took me back. I was like, come again. I thought I was, I thought I was dying. I thought that was the will. And the next part, he said. You can continue down this sad path that could lead to a sad end, but that is not my will for you. My will is for you to thrive and be happy. And that was really, that was a really a turning point for me that helped me to start to look at what that meant to thrive. And I had another vein running through my life. From my patriarchal blessing, it talked about the gift of healing and helping people heal through the principles of the gospel. And so I had gone into massage, when I was 18, I went to massage school and I was working with people through these years as well. And as I would do massage, I would. Get these sort of impressions of things to say, or ideas that would come and I would question those, but then just decided, I'm just going to go with it and see if it's God or not. And so many times it was very meaningful to people what was shared. And so I had that vein of healing and service to others running through my life, but I don't think I ever applied it to myself. And so as Heavenly Father started to teach me how to thrive and how to live and I was working with other women. So my own life and then the experiences and the stories of women, there were these patterns emerging. And I started to see every woman just needs to know these certain principles, these certain concepts that if we really understood them, we could thrive. and so that is where the book came from. It's just these patterns of these concepts and principles that, that really, once we understand them and really embody and embrace them as women, our lives are beautiful. They're amazing. So that's the context of. The beginning of that,

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Okay, so it wasn't cancer.

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it will be cancer,

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It was instead you were going to be thriving,

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right?

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right? What an opposite effect

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And there were some physical issues that I have had to work through but it wasn't so much of it was the emotional side of it. The lack of self regard that, I was burning myself out so much because I was trying to make everyone else happy that I just, I was exhausted.

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And you started seeing this in other women as well, this similar pattern in their life. Being blessed with inspiration to help them through it and wondering, should I say it? Should I not? And then you would, and it sounds like you were learning more by trusting yourself and by saying it. Yeah. And trusting that it was okay if I got it wrong. When we get things wrong, we still learn and that's how we learn, how God speaks to us is just. Speaking it and seeing, how it lands. And I actually did have an experience one time where it did not land well, and it was really painful for me. And I took that to heavenly father after, and I was like, what was that? I feel like I said what you wanted me to say, and it didn't land well. And I just felt like he said, that's not your responsibility. You said what I wanted you to say. It just, it wasn't received, but that's not your job. Your job is just to speak it and let the rest be. I bet that was a difficult, awkward moment.

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It was, but also a good lesson, that we're not always going to be well received by everyone. But if our heart is in line with God, that's really all we can seek to be.

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Yes. But like you said the lesson that you really needed was to give it and, you can't control. How it's received.

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Right.

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Oh, okay. What was there a scripture, a certain scripture or a scripture story that inspired you during this time when you were basically given the understanding that no, you're not going to be sick. Matter of fact, you're going to thrive and be happy. That's what I want.

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There was a couple stories. The one that really was the beginning of the book, it is in Isaiah, 52 and he says,

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Is this the one that relates to the part that's so poetic?

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Yeah.

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Oh, can I read that first?

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absolutely.

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Oh, thank you. Thank you, Heidi. I think our listeners will find this so inspirational. This was right in the introduction and Heidi's words were so poetic. I highlighted it right on page four. It says this. Quote, she suddenly wakes and sees she has been bound and held as a slave and didn't realize it until that moment she rises and unties herself from the bands that have tethered her unquote. Okay, go ahead. Thank you, Heidi.

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So in that scripture, he, he says, awake, awake, put on my strength, O Zion, put on my beautiful garments. And then in verse two, he says, shake thyself from the dust, arise and sit down, O Jerusalem, loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion. Just the visual of that is, is what I put in the book. Just thinking of us just waking up and thinking, wait a second, what am I bound by? Sometimes we're bound by other people's opinions. We're bound by duty. Were bound by. Cultural norms, we're bound by fear, where, lots of things are binding us. And if we can just shake off those binds. And then when he says arise and sit down, I picture that as almost like a queen, arising and being heralded as the queen and then sitting on her throne and taking her place. And, so as we loose ourself from these bands, we become free and we become the daughters that, that were meant to be,

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when we lose ourselves from the bands of what other people believe we should be.

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right,

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I see.

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or anything. It could be what we think we should be as

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Or what we think.

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Anything that binds us, that is not true. It's usually just untruth that binds us in some form.

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I see.

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There is one in Corinthians that at that time when I was trying to figure out my work and myself and find that validation, I was a little bit, Irritated, maybe is a good word at Heavenly Father, just feeling like why couldn't I have cool gifts? So why couldn't I have things like singing or, sports or performance? Something that people, that other people really value and understand. And, and I took it to God and I was maybe challenging Him a little bit. And I just happened to flip open my scriptures. And still to this day, whenever I just flip my scriptures open, it lands on this page. But it's 1 Corinthians 15, 10, and it says, By the grace of God, I am what I am, and His grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain. But I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God, which was with me. And I just, when, when I read that first line by the grace of God, I am what I am. It just hit me that who I am is who God made me to be. And it's his grace that allows me to be who I am. And instead of wishing for. Other things than what I am to just really labor abundantly in them and use them and not let them be in vain. Just use them for wherever and however they are a value to, others and to myself and to humanity.

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Yes. It's beautiful. Beautiful. I'm so glad you came to that understanding. Yes. Okay. Now that we understand the inspiration for your book, how you came to it to finally write it, because I know it took a while. It was in your mind brewing for quite some time until you got it on paper. And so now why don't you tell us actually about the book? the goddess code.

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okay, well, I started out with 40 different principles and my, my, My operators were like, it's just a lot. I can't keep it. I can't keep track of it, so then I cut it to 30, like three categories of 10 and it just, it was just too much. I think really that's one thing. And in just sharing is to find the most essential. And it paired back to, the idea came for an acronym with goddess and those seven, so there's seven key concepts that go along with that as an acronym to goddess and, and so each of them have just a different principle, a different idea and a different practice to go with that to help us get to where we can embody and use that, so,

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Okay. So each letter stands is an acronym. Tell us about the G then. That's probably a very important one. It's the first one.

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Yeah, the G is, it stands for the girlfriend rule and, it, it is probably the one that when people talk to me about the book, I've gotten the most feedback on that, that it's been so impactful for people because I think as women, we are not very good. At being kind to ourselves. And, when you think about, your best friend, your best girlfriend coming to you and telling you about just a horrible experience she had, and she's so ashamed or she's so embarrassed and how you respond to her and the love and the support, the encouragement, the empathy that you show her. And then you compare that to yourself when you're in that situation where you're embarrassed and you're ashamed and how you respond to yourself. Is usually incredibly different

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Yeah.

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if you had used that response on your friend, there's a good chance. You wouldn't still be friends and so I think that, Understanding the compassion that we give ourselves is so powerful. There's a book called the self compassion workbook by Kristen Neff. And in that she talks about how, I think part of the reason we don't give ourselves compassion is because we think if we do, we'll just slack and we won't continue to grow and progress. But in that she talks about how self compassionate people, are usually, they're usually more resilient. They're usually. Not as hard on themselves when they fail, they're more willing to try again after they fail and they do find more success and happiness measurably overall. And so it's not actually true that we need to kind of prod and beat ourselves up to become better in that compassion. We actually. Do become better. And this was a huge shift to kind of a turning point in my life as well. Like when I could, this was a game changer for me when I really learned to support myself. It's like, if you think of yourself as a cell phone for a minute when we tear ourselves down, it's running our battery down, so we get really low. Then we look to other people to build us up again and kind of be the charger for us, kind of recharge us I don't know about you, but I hate when people want to borrow my charger. I'm very protective of my phone charger. I think it's, it's just much more efficient and effective to have our own charge, to be able to charge ourselves up and to supply that for ourselves with that compassion and that love. And it's not necessary to tear ourselves down the way that we generally do, especially as women, we tend to be harder on ourselves than anyone else we would never talk to anyone else the way we talk to ourselves. And so just turning that around and really learning to have compassion for yourself. I remember the first time I did this, my husband and I were in this kind of couples Olympics. We were doing all these different sporting events, which I'm not a great athlete and he is. And I just always felt like I was letting him down because I wasn't succeeding at these. And we were playing a volleyball game and I was just like, You can do this, Heidi. You can do it. I'm, I believe in you. You can do it. And I felt that sort of supporting of myself and it lifted me and it helped me to stay focused and it helped me to do what I needed to do. And we actually ended up winning the game and I was like, yay, good job, Heidi. You stayed in it.

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You did it. You did it. It was that, compassionate way with yourself that helped.

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Yeah. And I just think in so many areas, when we can be compassionate to ourselves, we just, we can relax, we can settle into our lives so much more and truly become who we're meant to be instead of just staying restricted and constricted all the time, like the shame and the guilt tend to do to us.

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Yes. I agree with you. I remember when I was, first, getting migraines at, when I was executive director of Excelsior schools and, it was very hard to keep up with the work week, having daily migraines. I was aware of this importance of self compassion and. I've started to use it more than I ever had in my life, just because I knew, I, I think it was like, an emergency type trigger turned on. It was like, use it or, or, You, you won't make it. So I would just say to myself, I call myself sweetheart to try to make it through the day. And I compliment myself on the simplest things because I knew how difficult it was for me to make it with these migraines doing my daily work. So I can relate to that having been through something unusual and very difficult in my life.

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I love that you refer to yourself as sweetheart because it's almost, a maternal sort of phrase and, and there's so many times in our lives when, when we do feel there's, there, that's a question I will have people ask. How old do you feel in this? And when they, you know, maybe it's like six or three or 12 and, and to be able to meet yourself with that kind of compassion and love as a mom, your own mother, your own parent, it is so powerful as well. And just that is such a tender phrase and example. I love that. Thanks for sharing that with me.

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Yes. It, it's kind of like a motherly phrase, isn't it? And I think that's why I was using it because I felt so, vulnerable at that time. So vulnerable. Okay. What about the o? The o Is, is that one of the, I know they're all important acronyms, but is, is that the next one you would choose to, to describe for us?

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think so, because the O to me is sort of a master key and it stands for open connection, which is an open connection with God or source or divine. I don't think it really matters the name you use. It's just having that connection and knowing that you. are loved and valued by someone higher than yourself, someone bigger than yourself. And that, that there's support there that, that we can lean on and lean into from a heavenly source. And a lot of people, their relationship with God is wounded because We tend to connect our, relationship with our parents to a relationship with heavenly parents. We tend to overlap some of the issues on those and, or maybe you've been taught in a way that, God is punishing or God is angry God, or, you know, whatever it might be that, that the learning and the conditioning that you were given was that it wasn't a safe place. And so I think being able to really open that connection and feel into the safety of that, I actually have one of my podcasts is a meditation that guides people into just opening the connection and bringing that light and love into every part of their body. And that's how I start my sessions as well, is just by, bringing in, opening that connection and that love and allowing it to flow and. One thing I've learned is that we sit like fish in water with, with God's love. It's always around us. He never withdraws his love from us. It's us that sort of covers the connection and closes that channel. And so it's like, if you take a dish and it has a lid on it and you stick it into a bowl of water, you can submerge it all the way, but it still doesn't fill. With the water until you take the lid off and then you submerge that dish, it will immediately fill with water. And that's how I feel like our guilt, our shame, our feeling like we have to earn God's love. Feeling like our past or feeling broken, a lot of things will cause us to put the lid on. And so just realizing there is no limit to God's love. There's nothing that, can keep you from being loved by him. And so just opening yourself to that is the best way to make it through any experience, even if you've messed up in something, even if you're in a situation of your own making that's difficult, it's still by opening that connection that you will find your way through it.

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So, it's referring to prayer, if you will, right?

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right. But I feel like you can pray and still not open the connection. It's almost more of like a mindful allowing or receiving of God's love to Let it into your heart and your mind. And we, as women are not very good at receiving. We tend to give and give, but it's like our heart. If you only pumped the blood out of your heart and you never allow it to come back, either way you cut it off, you will not live. And so I think it's that same idea. Just opening yourself to receive and feel the love and allowing yourself to feel it. In prayer, in meditation, in just being still and listening. Sometimes in journaling, I'll sit and write just whatever words come. I'll just write it a word at a time without thinking ahead of time. And just write out. I've gotten such beautiful answers that way, just by opening my willingness to receive from God.

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I see it. I see it now. Yes. Taking that time to, listen, to feel, to reflect what, the spirit is saying to us. But Heavenly Father wants us to know from Him.

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Think we all sort of stand as a person. A radio receiver, we all sort of have the capacity to receive that the messages, the inspiration, the understanding from God, it's just, sometimes we're not tuned in, you know, like, the old dial radios where you had to really tune in to, understand it. Or to hear the songs, I think it's the same. We just have to really tune our heart and tune our mind to pick up the receiving end of that broadcast. And it's there. It's always there.

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It took me a while to understand how to do that within my scripture reading. I was better at doing that in prayer, and I would hear about people doing that while in scripture reading. But I eventually learned how to do that myself while in scripture reading.

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Mm

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And I did learn to do that when Come Follow Him. I learned how to do that proficiently or, proficiently was too strong a word. Better, better. When Come Follow Me, the curriculum became available to us. that has really opened up doors to my, insights when I was able to understand what the Lord was telling me through scriptures in addition to my prayers.

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hmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's exactly how he spoke to me with, that time with the Corinthian scripture. It was just right there and just flipping open my scriptures and, you know, kind of having his words right there speak to me and then trusting what your heart tells you in that moment That he is speaking to you and I love that you've gotten proficient in that. I'm sure you have. I'm going to give you that word because did

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I'm not proficiently by any means, but it's an education word. So I say it out of habit, but I'm better and I need to give credit to Melanie Wellman. She had a podcast or she still has follow him. Come follow him for us. And she taught everyone how to do it from the way her mission president taught his missionaries. That's where I learned how to, practice daily in receiving messages from the spirit through the scriptures.

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They have specific steps?

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Okay. Well, I will just lay it out and see if I get it right. She'll have to correct me if I get it wrong. Okay. You, you lay out a block of time rather than a set of scriptures, rather than saying, I'm going to read one chapter, or I'm going to read five verses, rather than that, lay out a block of time for your scripture reading. Like I'm going to read for 20 minutes, And whether it's one scripture or five, it's 10 verses or one chapter. That doesn't matter. It's just your block of time. You start with that block of time and then you start with prayer and you ask Heavenly father to bless you as you read the scriptures, with his spirit to speak to you through the scriptures. And if you can, take the time to repent in that prayer, then as you begin to read, have something to write with. So I got myself a little scripture journal. And then as you read, if you if you begin to fill the spirit, anytime you fill the spirit, stop and write down the very scripture verbatim that in which you fill the spirit, just write it down. Word for word. After you're done writing it down, more thoughts. May come to you. Write those thoughts down. That's, that's the spirit revealing to you what it is. Maybe thoughts won't come to you, but much of the time thoughts will come to you.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Write those thoughts down. It is surprising to me what thoughts will come to me after writing down the scripture verbatim. Then at the end of those thoughts, I've always learned a lesson and Then I go back to my scripture reading unless my time is over at the end of my scriptures reading. Then you're supposed to end with prayer and thank heavenly father for being with you and for, for that time. Sometimes there's times where I don't feel the spirit and I don't write down, but. More often than not, I do feel the Spirit, and I do write down a scripture verbatim. And more often than not, that leads to me writing more on that scripture than just the scripture itself. And it leads to a life lesson.

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I love that. And I love the idea of the repenting, sort of the releasing. I feel like repentance and sin, sin is a constriction. It's sort of a tension within our system. And repentance is a relaxing a releasing of that tension. And so putting yourself in that position where you can relax and release the tension allows you to open up that connection as well. And I think that's such a beautiful way to do it. And I love having steps like that because sometimes our conscious mind is like, but I don't know how, or I need to know how. And so it's beautiful to give those steps.

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Yes. That's a good point, Heidi. That's a very good point. Yes. And I better say, she's married now and married again. Her name is Melanie Wellman Stroud. give her credit and give her correct name. And it was her mission president, I don't know his name, that taught his missionaries how to do that.

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What a gift.

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All right. Is there another acronym you'd like to share with us from the Goddess Code?

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Well, part of the, the E stands for empowered and embodied. And part of that understanding to really be able to stand in the embodiment of the feminine, has to do with understanding the value of the feminine. And in our, in our culture and our society, I'm sure everyone has heard a phrase like, You throw like a girl, you hit like a girl, you're acting like such a girl. Stop being such a girl. And we have this sort of collective subconscious programming that to be a girl is insulting. And you say that to a boy and it's just like, Oh, you've given them the worst insult. And so as we grow up as girls, we get to be women and we think, I don't want to be that. So we. We push away from the feminine traits that, that seem to make us weak or less, or which are really our greatest strengths, our greatest gifts as women. And, there's a study that I talk about in the book in, it's from the book, Leadership and the Sexes. And Barbara in that book, she did research with hundreds Of corporations and these big companies and what they found was that when companies were gender intelligent, meaning they knew how to use the strengths of men and women, and they had women in their upper management, their bottom line increased by 34%. Any company that could get a 34 percent gain on their bottom line, I think would jump at that chance to have that edge. And that's sort of the feminine edge when we stand In the values of the feminine, we trust our hearts and we lean into the emotional body that we have, the emotional wisdom that we have. We bring that wherever we go, it could be your kitchen table. It doesn't have to be a board table, but we bring that value and really understanding the value we bring. And standing in that value is so important. I used to Spend a lot of time sort of defending the feminine, you know, and saying, girls are just as good as boys, or women are just as good as men, kind of a thing. And I read a quote one time from CS Lewis and he talked about, let's see if I can get it right. I won't get it exactly right. But the idea was that. The person making the claim that I'm as good as you doesn't inherently believe it themselves. And he says that the St. Bernard doesn't say it to the toy dog, neither the scholar to the dunce, neither the employable to the bum, those that make the claim to equality in some way feel themselves to be inferior. And that really hit me if I knew my value, I didn't feel the need to prove it. And if I was trying to prove my value to someone else, I didn't inherently believe it in myself. And so coming to really understand and know the sacred value of our feminine nature and our feminine gifts, and being able to really know and honor that. Part of that happened when I did a doula training, like a birth assistant. And I left that training. I just. felt such honor. I just was like, wow, we are women and what an incredible gift that is. What a powerful thing that is to create, you know, whether it's a human life or, uh, shiplap wall or a coil that we're, we are creators and we have this beautiful essence in us to be able to do that. And so I kind of discussed that at the start of the book, being able to really understand that value. And then in the empowered embodied, we talk about how do we hold that in the feminine? And, and I kind of make the point of the masculinist, if you think of a house. The masculine is sort of the framework that their roof and the walls, that's the masculine is protective and it's strong and it's structural and secure, but the feminine, at least in the olden days would be the heart, that center of the home, that was sort of the gathering place, it was the warmth, it was the nourishment and people would gather around it and that's sort of our, our feminine, space and so if you overlay that onto your body, We spend a lot of time in our heads, the masculine sort of held in the shoulders and there's this push with it. And so as women, when we spend all our time up here, it just feels really different than when you just take a breath and you just kind of sink down, sink into your heart and then sink all the way down to your base. Right to your very center. It's the very center of our body, right where the womb is in that space. And I almost picture it like an anchor, just dropping to the ocean floor, just like this quiet little poof of sand and the stillness and the quiet. And when we can really sit into that space, we become very embodied within ourselves. It's amazing what it does to just to your eyes, to your mannerisms, to your voice, even it kind of brings more groundedness and depth to your voice. And so being able to really settle into ourselves, it's an incredibly beautiful place to be. And it's something we don't really understand. How to do as women. And so, because we've been so caught in, in our heads and trying to be masculine. So, and we kind of sink down to our heart and to our core, that's when we can really tap into the gifts that we have as women. And it's a beautiful, attractive place to be too. And when you see someone in that space, it's like, who is she? You know, you kind of want to know her. It gives you such a grounded presence that, that people notice it.

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Yes. It's alluring just hearing about it. I really do like the symbolism of the hearth, being the idea of feminism, the hearth in the home. And then bringing that upon our body and explaining that between the head and the shoulders and down through the torso. It makes me want to go, take one of your sessions.

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

Yeah, that

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Yes.

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

there is a practice in the book that guides you through how to really drop into that space. And that's something I learned from Rachel Jane Groover. She has a book called Powerful and Feminine, and she talks a lot about the embodiment of the feminine and being able to hold that. And I learned a lot from her. And, that's another resource if people are interested.

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How do people find you?

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

Probably the easiest way. Yeah. The easiest way is on my website. She rise center. com. So she rise center, like sunrise, but only with she so it's she rise center. com and, on there, there's, there are some links. I would love to have people, my next step with my podcast is being able to do some sessions recorded so other people can benefit from them. I remember as a girl, my mom would listen to Dr. Laura Schlesinger and she would work through things with people. And I would, and we would learn from that kind of by proxy, you're learning these ideas and this awareness is coming. And so anyone that would like to do, a free session and we'll record that as a podcast and it can be anonymous, you know, we can keep it vague in general, but I love for other people to be able to learn because so much of us, we're going through a lot of the same things and We feel pretty isolated usually, that's an idea and a message that, that tends to keep us shut down and locked into what we're going through, but there is a phrase that says, that which is most personal is most universal. And I believe that's true. Most of the things we're going through, lots of other people are as well. And so if we can share that and find resolution and clarity, it's going to help a lot of people as well. So that's one way, or there's several podcasts, episodes that people can listen to. I've been shifting my work to doing more of like an eight week coaching program to go through each of the principles of the book. I actually just did a breathwork facilitator training as well. So I love to do, you know, breathwork sessions with people as well. So you can just reach out to me. There's email or, yeah,

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And, do people need to live close to you or do you work with people through video also? And if they do need to live close to you, where do they need to live?

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

right. I can do the breathwork. I do feel like, is best in person. And so I spend time in Woodland Hills in Utah County and also in St. George in Southern Utah. So I'm back and forth quite a bit. So in either of those locations would be great. The other work and the guided meditations and the practices we can do, on Zoom or over the phone. And I find it to be just as effective. because it's really about you connecting to God and to kind of that creating a space of your own awareness and your own place of light where people can connect. So I just try to help create space for others, to connect into that light and then they get the answers they need.

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I see. And do you find about eight sessions is what most people need. I believe you said you have about an eight session, routine is that right?

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

right. This is something I'm just launching right now to kind of correlate with the book to really work through each of those. One on one to really deep dive into those in your own personal patterns, your own personal life, and really make some changes. And I think eight weeks is a great amount of time. It's not so long, but it's long enough that you can really see results and, and you can get results. People come for one session and they have gained a lot of clarity on, the one issue that they came for the couple of issues that they came for. But, If you're really ready and you just feel like I am ready to change my core, I'm ready to really shift my patterns to be able to be who, who I'm meant to be, then the eight weeks is just a really good amount of time to work through each of those principles and find your blind spots. Sometimes you just need someone else. You know, like it's almost like we're seeing ourselves right up close and, and it's difficult to see all of the, the aspects of us, but when someone else can step back and just kind of give you some guidance. You know, and be able to really, I think of like Cinderella and how she was a beautiful kind of person, even as a servant. But when she got this fairy godmother that came in and just kind of unlocked the potential that she had and gave her a coach, to kind of get to that higher place. And, and I just, I would love to be that, that very, goddess mother, just to kind of help, help facilitate that. Cause it's really, it is our own growth and our own learning and we do it, but it's helpful to have someone just. To guide you along the way.

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And it's comforting to hear from you that so many of us have very similar problems to work through. We like to believe it's just our problem and, that makes us feel even worse about the whole situation, doesn't it?

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

right. And it makes us want to cover it up. Because we're embarrassed because why would we have such a problem when no one else does And it compounds the shame. It compounds the guilt. It compounds the failure. And it's, I mean, it's a great tool of, those that don't want us to succeed. So,

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Mm hmm, right, right. So I appreciate you reminding us that these problems are quite universal okay So thank you for telling us how we can find you And, again, Heidi's book is The Goddess Code, Seven Keys to Unlock Your Divine Feminine Potential. We can read that alongside working with Heidi personally. Heidi, thank you for joining us today. It's been a pleasure having you with us. Thank you for taking us through your journey of your inspiration to write this book. You've been such an example of courage in actually writing the book. It's, that's a big step. That's a big step. I'm sure many of us out there have that desire to write that book. It's in us, but we're not sure where to start.

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

Right. And thank you for having me. When I first received that impression to write the book, it was daunting and I talked to an editor and I just wanted to cry. It just seemed so overwhelming and it took me a couple of years I would encourage everyone. I think every one of us has a story and has a book inside of us. Even if it doesn't touch anyone else's life, I feel like for me, it has transformed, who I am. And that's enough, even if it's just for our own sake that we do it. If it can reach anyone else, that's bonus. That's amazing too.

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Yes. What an important point, even if it's just to transform us and leave a legacy for our family. Yes. That is important. All right. We all know how to reach Heidi and we will say goodbye and we look forward to the time that we can meet again.

heidi-_1_04-30-2024_134949:

Thank you so much.