S3E30: Seattle Colleges Conversations with! Director of International Student Services Deleasha Vincent

In this our thirtieth episode (30th) of Season 3, Seattle Colleges host Evan Franulovich interviews Director of International Student Services Deleasha Vincent all about the support students can get when they are here studying at Seattle Colleges!

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Transcript

Evan Franulovich  0:05  
Welcome to Seattle Colleges International Programs and our show 'Conversations with!', where we talk to people that help you understand how you too, can be an international student in the United States and why Seattle Colleges should be your first choice. We'll talk to students and staff and agents and government folks, all kinds of people about what you can expect when you're getting ready to apply or travel here, what you'll experience while you're with us, and how it can all lead to an amazing life. Don't forget to check out the Seattle Colleges International Programs website at intl.seattlecolleges.edu where you can find a treasure trove of information about the school, the programs here and best of all, fill out and submit your application. Again, that's intl.seattlecolleges.edu.

Hey everybody! Welcome back to Seattle Colleges 'Conversations with!' here at Seattle Central. Today, I am with our Director of Student Services. 

Deleasha Vincent  1:18  
Hello!

Evan Franulovich  1:19  
Very important position for you, once you get here, and even kind of before. 

Deleasha Vincent  1:25  
Yeah, sometimes. 

Evan Franulovich  1:26  
All right. Well, we're going to get all into that in just a sec. Do you want to tell them who you are and how long you've been here, and then we'll maybe talk about where you come from? 

Deleasha Vincent  1:35  
Yeah, sounds great. Well, hello everyone. My name is Deleasha Vincent. As Evan said, I'm the Director of International Student Services here at Seattle Colleges. I have been here for over a year. I started in November 2023, so we've passed the year mark now. 

Evan Franulovich  1:54  
Cool. Yeah, it feels like you've been here a long time. It's great. 

Deleasha Vincent  1:57  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  1:58  
You're everywhere. 

Deleasha Vincent  1:59  
Oh, I'm everywhere, yeah. So I spend at least a day a week, usually at each campus. And so it can be hard to track me down. That's for sure, because I pop around depending on who needs me. So I try to stay on a regular schedule as I can. But you know, when things happen, I gotta go. 

Evan Franulovich  2:20  
So let's talk about your regular schedule. If you're a current student out there, you'll not be interacting with Deleasha a lot. 

Deleasha Vincent  2:27  
No, typically, not. Oftentimes, if you're interacting with me, it means that it might not be such a good conversation that we're having, because a lot of the time I interact with students when their cases get escalated. 

Evan Franulovich  2:39  
Sure, sure. 

Deleasha Vincent  2:40  
Maybe not so great has happened. But I mean, if you see me in the hallway, I love to say hi. 

Evan Franulovich  2:46  
And I want to encourage you guys. We also like it when things are going right. 

Deleasha Vincent  2:50  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:50  
So it would be cool to escalate something to the Deleasha. We just love you guys. 

Deleasha Vincent  2:56  
Right? Yeah, come on, tell me all the good things. I want to hear from you all the good things. 

Evan Franulovich  3:00  
So don't forget, when things are going great, let her know, because it always makes us feel better. 

Deleasha Vincent  3:04  
It really does. 

Evan Franulovich  3:05  
And we do, honestly. You know, I think every institution has challenges. I mean, there's a lot of students to deal with, there's a lot of people to get stuff done for, but we really try to do our best for everybody. 

Deleasha Vincent  3:16  
Yeah, we do. And really in the end, I mean, I say when things get bad, they escalated to me, but I don't deal with a lot of student cases. A lot of what I do is more the high level, like managing the department, sitting in meetings. I sit in a lot of meetings. In fact, today, Outlook sent me a little email that says, it seems you have a lot of meetings scheduled this week. You might want to schedule some focused downtime. 

Evan Franulovich  3:41  
Oh, that's kind of nice. 

Deleasha Vincent  3:42  
Yeah, I know really interesting. 

Evan Franulovich  3:44  
Computers are nice. 

Deleasha Vincent  3:45  
Right? So I don't, I don't deal with a lot of student cases, but I'm always excited to hear student stories and talk to students and see where they come from. I like to hang out in the lobby when I can, when I have a five minute break just to say hi to people. 

Evan Franulovich  4:00  
All right, let's go back in time.

Deleasha Vincent  4:04  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  4:05  
You watch Big Bang theory?

Deleasha Vincent  4:06  
I have, yeah. I'm actually watching it for the first time right now. 

Evan Franulovich  4:09  
Oh, really? Well, there's one episode where they get the time machine.

Deleasha Vincent  4:14  
I saw that the other day. 

Evan Franulovich  4:16  
That's a really off subject. So you come from where originally? 

Deleasha Vincent  4:22  
Where I was born? 

Evan Franulovich  4:23  
Yeah. 

Deleasha Vincent  4:23  
So I was born in Canada, actually. So I'm a dual citizen.

Evan Franulovich  4:28  
Oh, Canada.

Deleasha Vincent  4:28  
Yeah. So my dad is Canadian, my mom is American. So I was born in Saskatchewan, Canada, which is like, in the middle of the country, the prairie land. 

Evan Franulovich  4:41  
Corner gas. You don't know what I'm talking about, check it out. 

Deleasha Vincent  4:45  
Yeah. So I was born there. Shortly afterwards, my family moved out to British Columbia, which is just two and a half hours north of Seattle Colleges. Actually, a lot of our students love to go up to Vancouver when we can on the weekend. Some of them need a visa to do it, some of them don't. But just to visit Vancouver, say they've been to another country. It's like a bonus. Yeah, so close. 

Evan Franulovich  5:09  
And Amtrack goes, you can take the train. 

Deleasha Vincent  5:11  
So that's where I grew up, and then in 2010 my family moved down to Everett, Washington, which is about an hour north of here. I graduated from high school down here in the States. 

Evan Franulovich  5:33  
In Everett? 

Deleasha Vincent  5:34  
Lake Stevens technically, greater Everett area. 

Evan Franulovich  5:36  
Sure. 

Deleasha Vincent  5:37  
And then went to Everett Community College for a year to finish out my associate's degree. And then went on to...

Evan Franulovich  5:46  
A community college graduate. 

Deleasha Vincent  5:48  
...a community college graduate. Yeah, not Seattle Colleges, I know. It's a little disappointing. 

Evan Franulovich  5:55  
It's a good school. It's just further away from the city. I don't like to promote others. Everett Community College has some sports programs. So if you're out there and you're looking for a team to play on, Everett does have some sports. 

Deleasha Vincent  6:10  
Yeah, I did not know that. 

Evan Franulovich  6:11  
Yeah, soccer team. I think maybe a basketball team. We don't have sports here at Seattle Colleges. We have some club teams. 

Deleasha Vincent  6:18  
We do, and they're gaining some traction actually, across a couple of the campuses. We just had a basketball tournament between three colleges. I didn't hear who won, but I heard people had fun. 

Evan Franulovich  6:29  
I'll ask around.

Deleasha Vincent  6:31  
Okay, yeah. So after I did that, I had finished my associates degree, and then I transferred to a university, actually went back up to Canada and did my undergraduate degree in Linguistics. 

Evan Franulovich  6:45  
I have a question for you. At our last transfer fair, we had at least three Canadian universities that attended. 

Deleasha Vincent  6:52  
Did we? 

Evan Franulovich  6:53  
Yeah, and I wonder about the transfer process. So if you start undergrad work in the US, then transferring to a Canadian school? How is that? 

Deleasha Vincent  7:03  
That's a really good question. So the University I went to was Trinity Western University. Wonderful school. It's between Vancouver and... Well, I guess you won't know where Chilliwack is. 

Evan Franulovich  7:16  
I know where Chilliwack is.

Deleasha Vincent  7:17  
Okay, there you go. So it's between the two. It's a privately owned school. They have really great business programs, a great nursing program that's really well known, reputable. I went for Applied Linguistics, which, if you don't know what linguistics is, it's the study of language and how it functions and is created and is used in society. And did my undergraduate, as well as a certificate in teaching English as a second language. But when I transferred there, it was really interesting, because a lot of schools that we have partnerships with here in Washington, or some some beyond there, a lot of them have what we call direct transfer agreements, right? So it's after you finish your program, they'll guarantee you into their school with your junior status and ability to just complete the program in two years, typically, unless you're taking a very specialized program. But because it was out of country, there wasn't a direct transfer agreement. And so something that I wish I had known and tell people all the time when they're looking at doing something similar to what I did, is you should always talk to the school that you're transferring to make sure that they're gonna accept everything, or that you have enough credits to go in and the status that you thought you were so. I thought I was going in with only two years left of my degree. I thought I was going in with only two years left of my degree, but because there was one requirement that I hadn't met at Everett, and because there was no agreement, I ended up having to take an extra semester. So it wasn't terribly much longer, but it could have been depending on the classes that I had taken. So I always recommend to students, if you're thinking of transferring and you know that you're going to a school that where it's not a direct transfer agreement, I always recommend just talking with your admissions team and just making sure that what you're transferring in is going to put you where you think it's going to. 

Evan Franulovich  9:19  
That's gold right there. That's really great advice. So the earlier, the better, in my opinion. Even before you start your community college or wherever, just start talking to the places you think you might transfer to. Do you take international students? And if so, how does that work? The more you know. 

Deleasha Vincent  9:39  
Well, and the process to get your transcript evaluated can take a really long time. Some schools will ask for you to go through an official process where you work with an agency to get your transcript, like notarized and translated and all of those things. If it's coming from a language that's not English. Some schools don't have the same requirements. So I always recommend if you are going to be transferring something in, you should really plan ahead of time. You can't just show up like the first day and say, 'Okay, here are all of the classes I've taken. What's left?' It just doesn't work that way. 

Evan Franulovich  10:11  
Oh, cool. Okay, so you did your undergrad. Finished your undergrad in British Columbia. 

Deleasha Vincent  10:17  
I did. So I graduated from my undergrad in December of 2018.

Evan Franulovich  10:22  
Cool.

Deleasha Vincent  10:23  
And moved back to Seattle, got a job teaching English as a second language with Alps language school. 

Evan Franulovich  10:31  
With our friends at Alps. 

Deleasha Vincent  10:34  
Yeah, Alps is a privately owned English language school, that's actually right up the street from Seattle Colleges you can walk to and from. 

Evan Franulovich  10:40  
Literally. 

Deleasha Vincent  10:40  
Sometimes I go visit on my lunch break just to say hi.

Evan Franulovich  10:43  
Cool.

Deleasha Vincent  10:44  
But they're a wonderful school, and I worked there for several years. And in the process of working there, when 2020 rolled around, I was ready to go back to school, and I ended up doing my master's in teaching English as a second language, and I did that through Biola University, which is based in Los Angeles, California, but I did it online. So I was working, doing my classes, doing all that. And then I finished that in, gosh, what was it? 2022, I think. And then kept working. I was working as their Director of Academics, or Academic Director when I found out about the position here at Seattle Colleges for the Director of International Student Services. And yeah, came here last year. 

Evan Franulovich  11:33  
Cool. Well, it's been great having you here. I gotta say, I've really enjoyed working with you personally. And if you're out there, let's just talk about Alps for a second. Some students need to improve their English before they're allowed to get into their program. 

Deleasha Vincent  11:49  
Right. 

Evan Franulovich  11:49  
We, of course, have our institute of English here at Seattle Colleges, so we love to have you start your foreign language, or English as foreign language here. But you can also do it at a place like Alps. Yeah? 

Deleasha Vincent  12:02  
Oh, absolutely, yeah. Alps has all levels. We have a partnership with them that allows students who finish certain Alps levels to transfer here into our college Bridge Program. Which is really exciting. The fun thing about Alps, they call themselves a boutique language school. They're so friendly and so personal. The class sizes, they cap at like eight to 10 students, or something like that. It was eight when I was there. I don't know if it's still eight now, but they cap it so that you are always getting attention from your instructor. They have short sessions, so each session is four weeks long, and you can take as many sessions as you want. If you're an F-1 student, you can get an I-20, from one four week session, all the way up to, if you want to stay for a year, if you want to do different things. So it's actually, it's really cool, because some students will decide, you know, I just need a little bit of English help before I go to my next school. So they'll go for one, two or three months and then transfer on to a university or anything like that. But they specialize in so many things. They have reading and writing classes, speaking listening classes. They have TOEFL preparation. So if you're interested in taking the TOEFL, they can help you with that. And then they have a lot of what they call Special Topics classes. And these are kind of like elective classes, things like discussing the news, where they talk about just anything that's current events. They have just all sorts of really cool things. If you want to learn to speak about different topics and different trend ideas. And so I love Alps. I have a special place for it in my heart. Like I said, I go and visit and I'll take them baked goods and things like that. 

Evan Franulovich  13:51  
Just great baked goods. 

Deleasha Vincent  13:52  
I love it. In addition to being the director of international students, I also bake. Yes, I always have something that I'm baking. 

Evan Franulovich  14:03  
It's true. You're like Ted Lasso. Ted Lasso always brings biscuits.

Deleasha Vincent  14:10  
There we go. But yeah, so Alps is a great spot if you're looking for something and you're either not wanting to come to our SCIE program, or you feel like you just need a little bit more support before you transfer into Seattle Colleges Institute of English. It's a great spot. 

Evan Franulovich  14:26  
Yeah, especially if you're in the lower levels, like, if you're really not very strong in English, it's a really nice place to get a start, I think. And then, yeah, when you get to level three, come on over. 

Deleasha Vincent  14:38  
Absolutely. Well, the other thing, just real quick, that's really cool about Alps is that they are set up really nicely for other visa types to study part time as well. So students who are here as tourists who just want to learn some English while they're here, they could take a couple of hours of class a day because they're allowed to study part time. Same with F-2 dependents. So if you're coming as an F-1 student and you have a spouse or an adult child who just wants something to do, wants to learn their English, improve English, Alps is a great spot for that. We had people at Alps on all sorts of visa types studying, not full time, but yeah, studying. 

Evan Franulovich  15:21  
That's really good to know. I didn't know that. If they want to go to Alps first, I know, because my territories are Latin America, Africa, Middle East, a lot of the students I talk to or their parents are concerned that if they apply to a place like Alps or EF or something, that they won't get their visa. 

Deleasha Vincent  15:41  
I see. 

Evan Franulovich  15:42  
What's your take on that? 

Deleasha Vincent  15:44  
That's such a good question. My advice typically, because that's it's a concern students face all the time if they're coming, even just for an English language program, even if it's at a community college or a university, students often have this concern of, oh, well, because it's just English, I'm not going to be able to get a visa. And really what's more important is that you're able to share your plan, right? That's what Customs and Border Patrol, that's what the consular officer is looking for when you go to your visa interview, is they're looking for you to be able to say: 'This is my plan: I'm going to start here, and then I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and this is why it's important.' So if you're able to say to them, you know, 'I'm coming to Alps language school, I'm coming to the English language program at Seattle Colleges, and I'm going to improve my English for X number of months, and then my plan is to either start a college level program or I'm going to come back home and use this to build my business or to different things like that.' Typically, the plan is a lot more important than the school. I'm not going to deny that sometimes people get denied for different reasons, I can't say that. But most of the time, the consular officers care more about your plan, and hearing that you have thought through what you're going to do. 

Evan Franulovich  16:59  
More gold. That's really good stuff. The more you're prepared, the better your plan. It doesn't guarantee it just improves your chances of that visa. So great. That's really good. That's cool. Yeah, I worked at EF and I taught adults in China for at least a year. 

Deleasha Vincent  17:23  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  17:24  
And I really loved it. I thought it was great. Class sizes were small. They had something similar, called English corner, where we would do specialized topics, you know? And we were given a lot of latitude to come up with whatever we wanted, one of our instructors did a whole Magic the Gathering session. 

Deleasha Vincent  17:42  
That's so fun. 

Evan Franulovich  17:43  
You know, I think I did numerous on American sports, where we actually take them outside and play football in the streets. So it's kind of fun. 

Deleasha Vincent  17:50  
Yeah, Alps has a really great activities program. So every four weeks, they have three or four different events that they do. So for St Patrick's Day, they took students to Stoup Brewing last weekend, just because they had a game night. And St Patrick's Day theme going on, they've done like museum trips and like little tours of different Seattle neighborhoods. So it's also a great way to just get to know the culture of Seattle on you're first year.

Evan Franulovich  18:24  
So we're gonna send an invoice to Alps for all this free advertising.

Deleasha Vincent  18:29  
Oh my goodness, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  18:30  
But it is a way to go. If you're out there and you're thinking about needing some English language instruction before you get into your college program, either starting here with our Intensive English Program, or starting something a little smaller at like Alps. Either way is a good way. 

Deleasha Vincent  18:42  
And again, if you have a spouse or an adult child who's coming with you who needs something to do, that's another really great spot for them to be. 

Evan Franulovich  18:50  
Tell them. I mean, I'm trying to know. But explain, let's say I do a few weeks or a few sessions at Alps, and I want to transfer down to Seattle Colleges. How do they do that? How do they get their I-20 from there over to here? 

Deleasha Vincent  19:03  
Oh, that's a great question. My number one piece of advice is just to talk to the Designated School Official or DSO at the school that you're transferring from, whether it's Alps, whether it's another community college, whether it's a university, if you already are in the United States, and you have your I-20, and you're studying at a school and you want to study at another school, the first step is always to talk to your advisor. They have lots of information, and they'll be able to help you through the process effectively. But essentially, in order to transfer your record from one school to another. You're going to need to apply to the new school. Number one: Make sure that you have acceptance. You're going to need to apply to the school, get accepted, and then present your acceptance letter to the school that you're currently studying at. Now, different schools have different processes of how they do this. For example, here at Seattle Colleges, we have you fill out a transfer out request in our system at SCD global, where you upload that and tell us a little bit about information about where you're going. And it's also a spot where you can give a little bit of feedback if there's a reason that you're leaving us, whether it's just 'I achieved my goal, and I'm on to the next thing.' You know, you can give us a little bit of feedback there. So every school has a little bit of a different process. Some schools may ask you to have your new school fill out SEVIS form that just, they call it a transfer out form typically, where it just has the DSO at your current school give a little bit of information about your record, whether you've maintained status, whether you've taken advantage of vacation quarters, reduced course loads, things like that. And then they'll submit it to your school where you want to go, and then they'll give you your acceptance after that. So it kind of depends a little bit based on school procedure, but the very basic SEVIS procedure is you give an acceptance letter to your current school and then they transfer your record to your new school. 

Evan Franulovich  21:13  
There you go. Because we have such a close relationship with Alps in particular, that process is pretty simple. 

Deleasha Vincent  21:19  
Oh, yeah. And Alps is very quick, so those things can happen pretty quickly. 

Evan Franulovich  21:25  
I've received questions from students that are making the transfer about timing, because we have four quarters here at Seattle Colleges, and those dates are very set. So sometimes, Alps they have shorter periods, how should I time it? Like, maybe I don't want to spend a lot of money at Alps. I want to save that money so I can spend it at Seattle Colleges. How much time do they need between the time they start thinking about the transfering, how would you recommend they time it? 

Deleasha Vincent  21:56  
Transferring from Alps to Seattle Colleges? 

Evan Franulovich  21:58  
Yeah, yeah.

Deleasha Vincent  21:59  
Well, the nice thing is, is that the Alps knows our dates, and so they're pretty good. They're pretty good about helping keep you in time. But the important thing is, date wise, that you should plan ahead. Don't just look at the calendar and say, 'Oh, Seattle Colleges is starting on Monday, I'm gonna transfer.' Yeah, that's not gonna work so much. But if you give it about a few weeks to a month, I would say it's a good lead time for this particular transfer. It's a good idea just to have a lot of time, because you need to apply and get accepted. And our admissions team, they're really good about getting things processed, but you do need to make sure that you've submitted all of your correct documentation, so if you started your application but you haven't finished it, they can't process your application. And so from the time that your application is completed, they should be able to get to it within a week or so.

Evan Franulovich  23:07  
Yeah, they tell me three days. Allow a week, just to be safe. 

Deleasha Vincent  23:13  
Yeah, give grace, give a week. 

Evan Franulovich  23:15  
And you know, if you go onto our website, you're gonna see two deadlines for applications. One's a general deadline, and one is transfer deadline, right? 

Deleasha Vincent  23:23  
Yeah. So that's actually closer to the actual start date. 

Evan Franulovich  23:26  
Right, right. And if they're coming from apps, they're considered transfer students. 

Deleasha Vincent  23:29  
Correct, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  23:30  
So gives you a little bit of extra time, but don't wait. 

Deleasha Vincent  23:33  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  23:34  
I mean, the more proactive you are, the better. 

Deleasha Vincent  23:36  
Yeah, because then the other part of that is, even if we can get your application processed and get you accepted, and all of that. The other thing to consider is registering for classes, right? 

Evan Franulovich  23:47  
That's true.

Deleasha Vincent  23:47  
And so the earlier you're able to register for classes, the better the chances that you're going to get the classes that you specifically want to take. If you leave it until two weeks before the quarter starts and you're getting in, you might end up taking some fairly random courses, just because that's all that's left. And you have to maintain your visa status. You can't defer to a next quarter. 

Evan Franulovich  24:11  
Now we're gonna get into the nitty gritty. 

Deleasha Vincent  24:13  
Here we go. 

Evan Franulovich  24:14  
So really, one of the big things is getting into classes that you want.

Deleasha Vincent  24:20  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:21  
And I know that one of the things Deleasha does, is talk to students about that. So this is our great opportunity for us to talk to you about registering for classes. What's your golden advice to students? Let's start with brand new students first. 

Deleasha Vincent  24:38  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  24:38  
And then we'll talk about students that have been here for quarters. 

Deleasha Vincent  24:41  
Yeah, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:41  
So brand new student. Let's say they're in Nigeria. They got their acceptance letter, they know they're coming. What do you recommend for them as far as registration goes? 

Deleasha Vincent  24:51  
Great question. Look at your acceptance materials for the new Student Checklist.

Evan Franulovich  24:57  
Absolutely! Please look at it.

Deleasha Vincent  25:00  
Number one. The good news is, in your first quarter, the advisors register you for classes, so you don't have to register yourself for classes, but we don't know to register you for classes until you fill out what's called our intent to enroll forms. Super, super important people. 

Evan Franulovich  25:19  
And this is probably true at any community college. I'm guessing it's something similar. But yeah, 100% good stuff. 

Deleasha Vincent  25:26  
What the intent to enroll form does, number one: It tells us like, 'Yes, I am planning to come.' We issue a lot of acceptances. We have a lot of students who get an I-20 from Seattle Colleges. But for some reasons, they can't get a visa appointment, or they decide that they want to change their plans and come later. So there's a lot more students who are accepted for a quarter than sometimes actually come. And so we don't register everyone for classes, because then we'd have to unregister everyone for classes. And then the different departments, might not be so excited with us. So the intent to enroll form tells us that you're planning to come, and it also gives us your permission to register you for classes. 

Evan Franulovich  26:14  
I didn't know that.

Deleasha Vincent  26:15  
And so that's really important, because when we register you like classes for your behalf, and then you don't show up and say, Well, you know, I never registered for classes. I don't know why you're sending me a bill. Well, we had your permission to register you for it. So it gives us permission, and it tells us that you're coming. So until you fill out that intent to enroll form, we will not register you for classes. 

Evan Franulovich  26:37  
Super duper important. 

Deleasha Vincent  26:42  
If you haven't, if you're watching this and you're supposed to be starting in this next quarter, please go fill that out right. 

Evan Franulovich  26:49  
Right now. 

Deleasha Vincent  26:49  
Pause and then come back, because it is so important. And we update that, I actually update that. I take, I take the data from that form and pass it along to advisors every day, so that they're aware and so once you've filled out that form, then your advisor will see your name on a spreadsheet, and they'll look at what degree plan you're doing, what courses that you might want to take, and we'll help you get registered from there, there are a couple of other items in that onboarding checklist to pay attention to. It might ask you to fill out a pre registration form. Some degrees have that, some degrees don't. So that's really like, your golden ticket is checking that form if you're a new student. And then the other piece is always making sure that your contact information is up to date, because we'll super important. We'll send you your schedule, but if it's not an email that you're checking, you won't get your schedule until you come here. So that's the other piece. Is make sure that we have your updated contact info. 

Evan Franulovich  27:50  
I'm telling you, this is all golden advice, guys. If you are coming to our school or any school, this is all really good information. So let's say the advisor signs them up for three classes, and one of them is a math class, but they haven't taken their math placement test yet. 

Deleasha Vincent  28:07  
We won't register them for the math until they've taken it. Yeah, so for some classes like math, you do have to take it's called directed self placement. It's kind of like a test, kind of like an assessment of your self assessment of your skills, but you have to do that before we can register you into a math class. 

Evan Franulovich  28:26  
And can they do it from the country that they're in? 

Deleasha Vincent  28:28  
It's all online. We have links to it in the acceptance materials, there is a link to where to do that. And then also, just in case you missed that link, when your advisor starts registering you for classes and sees, 'Oh, they wanted to take a math class, but they don't have placement information.' They'll send you an email and say, 'Hey, I've registered you for English, 101, and ISD 200' but I can't register you for math until you take this. 

Evan Franulovich  28:59  
And is there a fee? 

Deleasha Vincent  29:02  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  29:02  
Oh, the math placements free. 

Deleasha Vincent  29:05  
I've done it, because I was trying to see how the students would do it. 

Evan Franulovich  29:09  
It's really cool. 

Deleasha Vincent  29:09  
Went into it. So, yeah, there's no fee. 

Evan Franulovich  29:11  
Okay. Now, if they come from an English speaking country, like South Africa, Malawi, Kenya, they don't have to provide an English Placement Test results, but maybe they want to get into English. 

Deleasha Vincent  29:22  
Right. 

Evan Franulovich  29:23  
So do they take a self directed English? 

Deleasha Vincent  29:25  
So there's an English directed self placement and any native English speaker from one of the countries. There's a list of the countries in our English proficiency information where we would not make you submit English placement as part of your application. But in order to enroll in classes, in an English class, you do have to take the English directed self placement, just like students who are from Seattle need to take the English placement test. Yeah, so it's universal. 

Evan Franulovich  29:56  
And don't panic. I want you guys to just breathe for a second.

Deleasha Vincent  30:00  
That's right. 

Evan Franulovich  30:00  
This is not going to impact if you are going to get into Seattle Colleges. It's just where you start your education journey.

Deleasha Vincent  30:08  
Yeah, it happens after you've been accepted. It happens before you register for for classes.

Evan Franulovich  30:14  
Don't worry if, even if you bomb it. I mean, not that you would. 

Deleasha Vincent  30:17  
Right.

Evan Franulovich  30:20  
Really good. We have 3 campuses, you spend a little time at each campus. What's your schedule like? Which day are you scheduled to be at each campus? 

Deleasha Vincent  30:32  
Ooh, good question. You are trying to get people to knock on my door?

Evan Franulovich  30:35  
No, no. But it is nice to know where you are.

Deleasha Vincent  30:38  
I like to say hi to people. As of right now, on Mondays I'm at our North Campus, on Tuesdays I'm here at Central, Wednesdays are my floating day—so I'm wherever I'm most needed—or sometimes that'll be a remote day for me, and then on Thursdays I'm at our South Campus.

Evan Franulovich  31:04  
Gotcha. Now, this might put you in a really tough position. Is there a campus that you like better than another one? 

Deleasha Vincent  31:12  
I like all of them. 

Evan Franulovich  31:13  
Okay, that's a good answer. 

Deleasha Vincent  31:14  
I can tell you a little bit about why I like them. 

Evan Franulovich  31:16  
Sure, yeah. Please do. 

Deleasha Vincent  31:17  
Yeah, we'll start with North. One of the things that I like about the North Campus is just the buildings and the spaces are really, kind of cool. It's a unique architectural space, as opposed to the other two campuses, so it's kind of fun. And there's a lot of concrete, but then there's a lot of greenery. 

Evan Franulovich  31:41  
There's a lot of greenery. 

Deleasha Vincent  31:42  
And they've very purposefully, tried to incorporate nature into the midst of the architecture. There's a really beautiful fountain surrounded by some different greenery and things like that. 

Evan Franulovich  31:56  
And have you been out to the garden? 

Deleasha Vincent  31:57  
I personally have not. 

Evan Franulovich  31:59  
You should walk out, especially this time of year, when they're starting to get it going. 

Deleasha Vincent  32:02  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  32:03  
Check out the garden at North. It's really cool. 

Deleasha Vincent  32:06  
And then here at Central, one of my favorite things, to be just completely honest, is I love the food options. 

Evan Franulovich  32:13  
There's a lot of food options. 

Deleasha Vincent  32:14  
There's so many good food options. There's a place just right up the street, it's called Rondo. It's a Japanese cuisine, and their seafood Udon is just one of my favorite things. The unfortunate thing is, they're closed on Tuesdays, which I'm most often here. But it's wonderful. We also have a couple of ice cream places really close by Salt and Straw. 

Evan Franulovich  32:37  
I do not know these places. 

Deleasha Vincent  32:39  
Oh my gosh. Both of them are so good. Molly Moon's has a pumpkin ice cream in October. That is so good. 

Evan Franulovich  32:46  
Good to know. 

Deleasha Vincent  32:47  
But anyways, because we're right downtown, right? So there's lots of stuff to do, lots of within walking. 

Evan Franulovich  32:53  
What do our Japanese students say about the place? 

Deleasha Vincent  32:55  
I've not talked to any of our Japanese students. But I will say that the first person to ever take me to Rondo was one of my dear friends, who was one of my students at Alps, who is from Japan. 

Evan Franulovich  33:06  
That's high praise. 

Deleasha Vincent  33:07  
She really enjoyed that spot. So I will say that. So that's Central, and then South. What I think of South, when I describe South to students, I describe it as like, think of a mid 90s, early 2000s college movie. Think of the campus from that. That's kind of South it has a very American college campus feel to it. There's a clock tower, and it's spread out.

Evan Franulovich  33:35  
Spread out, yeah.

Deleasha Vincent  33:37  
It's in a good neighborhood. It's in West Seattle. 

Evan Franulovich  33:39  
It's nice. 

Deleasha Vincent  33:40  
They've got a lovely little cafe where you can go, and do your homework and drink coffee.

Evan Franulovich  33:46  
I wish we had their cafe here. 

Deleasha Vincent  33:48  
I know, oh my gosh. Alki Cafe is absolutely wonderful. And yeah, so each campus is just a little different. So there's not one. 

Evan Franulovich  34:00  
Okay, fair enough.  And the Chinese garden itself is really legit. Check that out. It's really beautiful. It's similar to Portland, Oregon, the Chinese Garden. Very similar, not as big, but it's great. 

Deleasha Vincent  34:16  
Right. 

Evan Franulovich  34:17  
Well, that's cool. Let's just talk about who you direct. 

Deleasha Vincent  34:25  
Yeah, of course. So I oversee kind of two groups of people and services. So I oversee our advising team. All of our advisors are immigration and academic advisors in the international department, I oversee that team. Doing a lot of work with making sure that we're up to date with the most recent immigration guidance from the government, what's going on internationally, all those things, but also making sure that we're keeping up with the programs at each school and how each campus is dealing with different academic issues. So we do kind of all of that. And then the other group of people that fall under the Student Services umbrella is our front desk teams at each campus, yeah, so I also oversee that. We have an Associate Director of International Student Services. Go watch his interview. 

Evan Franulovich  35:30  
Shun! It's a really good interview.

Deleasha Vincent  35:32  
He oversees our front desk managers and so just making sure that we have an on campus presence that's welcoming and a place where students want to hang out and come. That's kind of, the umbrella that I oversee. 

Evan Franulovich  35:39  
Actually, I got to go back because I didn't let you finish on the other question, because we talked about, what do brand new students should do.

Deleasha Vincent  35:52  
Oh my goodness, we did. 

Evan Franulovich  35:53  
I forgot to let you finish. So if you're a veteran, you're already here, or if you're coming and you're going to want to know how to do it in the future, after your first quarter, what do you what's your recommendation for those students, the veteran students. 

Deleasha Vincent  36:07  
Do it as soon as you can. 

Evan Franulovich  36:08  
Soon as you can. 

Deleasha Vincent  36:08  
Register as soon as you can, is always going to be my advice for that. You register yourself after your first quarter. We are more than happy to help you, if you're trying to decide what classes to take or you have an issue registering for one of your classes, we're happy to help, but we don't enroll students beyond their first quarter. So pay attention to the dates for when registration is going to open for continuing students. It's always a week before that when new students can register. 

Evan Franulovich  36:39  
And unless you're living in a hole somewhere, you'll hear because everybody talks about it. 

Deleasha Vincent  36:08  
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so just prepare that and then be aware of it. Kind of have an idea of what classes you want to take, because again, classes fill up, especially when we go into our summer quarter. Summer quarter does not offer as many classes as all the other quarters, and so it can be really competitive to get into classes depending on your program. So I always just advise students, like, as soon as you can just start registering for classes. And then something to know that maybe many students might not know is that summer registration and fall registration open at the same time. 

Evan Franulovich  36:52  
Good to know. 

Deleasha Vincent  37:20  
Yeah, so if you're here in the spring and you're getting ready to register for summer, know that you can also register for fall at the same time. 

Evan Franulovich  37:30  
Super important. Because classes do fill up, especially the popular ones. 

Deleasha Vincent  37:35  
Oh my goodness, they do. And so it's really important to be on top of that. And yeah, know what you're going to take if you haven't already, it's always a good idea to talk with your advisor. Advisors are available to set up appointments to do an education plan. That might be something if you've been here for one or two quarters. Good idea to maybe go in and sit down with your advisor and book an appointment with them. 

Evan Franulovich  38:01  
Right. But also be prepared for that meeting with your advisor, if you can do as much of your own homework first. When I went to school, especially when I started at a community college, we this is going to date me a little bit, but we had paper catalogs and have everything in it. And I would actually remember, I would like write out all the classes I would need, and I would know that this is the order I'm going to do them in. They can still do that, yeah? 

Deleasha Vincent  38:27  
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So you have ability through starfish, which is one of our internal systems. We also have degree planning, like worksheets. 

Evan Franulovich  38:36  
Cool. 

Deleasha Vincent  38:37  
All of the course catalogs open online, so you can do a lot of that yourself and build out what what you think would be best, and honestly, that's the best use of your time. 

Evan Franulovich  38:49  
I agree. 

Deleasha Vincent  38:50  
Because you have limited time with your advisor, maybe 30 minutes to an hour to sit down and talk about your degree plan. If you come in and have an idea of what you're thinking, that's going to be a much more productive conversation than having to start from the beginning with your advisor and walk through each of those pieces together. You're going to actually be able to get into a lot more detail. 

Evan Franulovich  39:12  
Yeah, and anytime we can make the advisors life easier, guys, we like to do that. Yes, there's a lot of people that want to see them. 

Deleasha Vincent  39:22  
Yes, it's very true. Any appointment that you're going in for your advisor, it's a good idea. If you're wanting to go in and talk to your advisor about transferring to another school, don't just come to the appointment say, I'd like to transfer to a school. You're gonna have a really hard time actually getting anywhere in that appointment. Whereas, if you come in and say, 'Hey, I'm looking to take this degree, or something like this degree, and I'm looking at UW, and I'm looking at Washington State University, and I'm looking at University of Portland, or whichever.' Yeah. So anytime you're going to have an appointment with your advisor, come prepared, because you're going to benefit more from that conversation.

Evan Franulovich  40:01  
Right. And it'll really help your advisor help you, which is really great. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:04  
Because they know what you want. 

Evan Franulovich  40:05  
Because they know what you want. Yeah, in the United States, our education system is set up for self advocacy. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:11  
It really is. 

Evan Franulovich  40:12  
And we want you to be independent, maybe a little different than what you're used to, but we really want you to take ownership of your journey, and we'll be there to help you. But in the end, it's your life. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:24  
It's very true.

Evan Franulovich  40:25  
Cool. Very good. It's Trivia Time. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:30  
Oh boy. 

Evan Franulovich  40:32  
This is where we ask the five questions. These are gonna be tough. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:34  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  40:35  
But let's see how you do, since you're the master. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:38  
Oh boy. 

Evan Franulovich  40:38  
Here we go. First question: In between British Columbia and Saskatchewan is a province. What is the name of that province? 

Deleasha Vincent  40:50  
Alberta. 

Evan Franulovich  40:50  
Alberta. I had to start you easy. 

Deleasha Vincent  40:53  
Yeah, of course. 

Evan Franulovich  40:54  
Yeah, because if you're going to drive from Saskatchewan to British Columbia, you have to go through Alberta.

Deleasha Vincent  40:57  
You do. 

Evan Franulovich  40:57  
Um, what's your favorite province? Just out of curiosity.

Deleasha Vincent  41:01  
Oh, my goodness. This is funny. I love Ontario. 

Evan Franulovich  41:06  
Oh, I didn't expect that.

Deleasha Vincent  41:07  
British Columbia is where I'm from. That's where I grew up. But my family's all out in Ontario. My dad's family is all out there. So I just have lots of really sweet memories going out to visit them, and going around the nation's capital and all of that. My dad, if he watches this, is gonna laugh. He does not want to move back to the East Coast. 

Evan Franulovich  41:28  
Okay. 

Deleasha Vincent  41:28  
Yeah, but I have a special place in my heart for Ontario. 

Evan Franulovich  41:31  
Cool. Shout-out to Ontario. Shout-out to all our Canadians. We really want you to know how much we love you, especially at this time in our life. Yeah, no, I'm a big fan of the Banff Lake Louise area. 

Deleasha Vincent  41:43  
Oh my gosh, Banff is beautiful. 

Evan Franulovich  41:45  
If won the lottery, I think that's where I'd want to go. So if you're a student at Seattle Colleges, like she said, you can get permission to go into Canada, get your visa. 

Deleasha Vincent  41:55  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  41:56  
Please go explore our neighbors to the north, because it's wonderful. 

Deleasha Vincent  41:59  
It is. 

Evan Franulovich  42:00  
All right. Question number two: If I want to go on vacation, what do I need to do as an international student? 

Deleasha Vincent  42:07  
Ooh, good question. Inside or outside the US? 

Evan Franulovich  42:12  
Outside the US. 

Deleasha Vincent  42:13  
Outside the US? Get your I-20 signed.

Evan Franulovich  42:17  
These are easy questions. You answer these every day. 

Deleasha Vincent  42:20  
Yes, that's true. 

Evan Franulovich  42:21  
Very good. All right, this one's a little bit harder. Name the capital of the state of Washington. 

Deleasha Vincent  42:28  
Olympia. 

Evan Franulovich  42:28  
Wow, great. That's pretty hard. You'd be shocked at how many people don't know the geography in there. 

Deleasha Vincent  42:36  
Yeah, lots of people think Seattle's the capital. 

Evan Franulovich  42:38  
I know, right? But it's not. In Olympia you can just take the train down there go check it out. It's a cute little town. I really like the downtown area. 

Deleasha Vincent  42:44  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  42:45  
All right. Question number four: There are three national parks around Seattle, name two of them.

Deleasha Vincent  42:54  
Oh, gosh, okay. Olympic National Park. 

Evan Franulovich  42:59  
Good. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:03  
Another national park... I don't know. 

Evan Franulovich  43:07  
Oh, maybe I got her. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:08  
Yeah, I think he did. 

Evan Franulovich  43:09  
So, Olympic National Park, that's good. A lot of people don't remember that one. There's a big mountain off to the south. Yeah, Mount Rainer National Park. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:16  
Oh, of course. 

Evan Franulovich  43:17  
And then North Cascades National Park. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:18  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  43:20  
Nice job, all right. And the last one is, what is the last movie you saw in the theaters?

Deleasha Vincent  43:27  
Oh, in theater. I haven't been to a theater. Oh, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, which is the Hunger Games prequel.

Evan Franulovich  43:39  
That's a movie? 

Deleasha Vincent  43:40  
Yeah, this was what, two years ago that it came out. It's been a while now, maybe one and a half years. Actually, the new book just released. 

Evan Franulovich  43:48  
I was just gonna tell you, yeah. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:50  
I pre ordered my copy through Amazon, but it doesn't get here till Thursday.

Evan Franulovich  43:56  
Gonna have to wait a couple days. 

Deleasha Vincent  43:57  
I will. 

Evan Franulovich  43:58  
Yeah, I just saw that in the New York Times today that book was coming out.

Deleasha Vincent  44:02  
I know I'm so excited. I read those books when I was in middle school. 

Evan Franulovich  44:06  
Oh, okay. 

Deleasha Vincent  44:07  
To to put a date on when I was in middle school. That's when I read those books. But that author has another series for younger students that I read prior. 

Evan Franulovich  44:18  
What's the other series? 

Deleasha Vincent  44:19  
It's called the Underland Chronicles. It's about a little boy, like a 12 year old boy in New York who falls down a hole behind a dryer in his apartment's laundry room and finds a world underneath the world. 

Evan Franulovich  44:32  
Very cool. 

Deleasha Vincent  44:32  
There's like giant bats that you can fly on, and like giant animals of different sorts, they call it the Underland. And there's like a prophecy about this boy, and so it's this five book series about this. And so I was really familiar with that, and then when the hunger games came out, that's how I got into it. 

Evan Franulovich  44:50  
And actually, I've read, I've read at least a couple of The Hunger Games books, and I gotta say, they're really engaging. So if you're looking for something to read there you have it.

Deleasha Vincent  44:57  
They're hard to read. Like reading them now as an Adult versus reading them as a teenager... 

Evan Franulovich  45:03  
Yeah. 

Deleasha Vincent  45:03  
...because the main character is a teenager, and it's there's a lot of violence that happens in these books. And so as a teenager, you think you're invincible, and so you think a teenage main character is also invincible. And then when you read it as an adult, and you're looking at the things that a teenager is journeying through, oh my goodness, you know we need to protect our kiddos. 

Evan Franulovich  45:21  
That's right. Well, I was an invincible teenager, it worked out. So silly. Well, cool. Normally, I ask people to say something in their first languages. Your first language is English. 

Deleasha Vincent  45:34  
My first languages is English. 

Evan Franulovich  45:35  
Do you speak any other languages?

Deleasha Vincent  45:35  
I speak French.

Evan Franulovich  45:35  
I speak French too. 

Deleasha Vincent  45:43  
I'm a Canadian. A little bit of Spanish, only a little bit.

Evan Franulovich  45:52  
So our front desk managers, all of them have second languages, don't they? I think Rachel speaks Chinese.

Deleasha Vincent  46:02  
Maybe, I actually don't know if all of them do. We definitely have staff at each front desk that speak other languages. We have student workers, and lots of people in our office have a second language. 

Evan Franulovich  46:15  
It's true. Don't rely on us, of course. We had a kid come in to the IP office the other day, and he was looking for an Arabic speaker, and normally, we have an international ambassador who speaks Arabic. Nobody was around that day, so I felt really bad. We stumbled through a conversation. He got the help he needed, but it was a little more challenging. 

Deleasha Vincent  46:36  
There you go. 

Evan Franulovich  46:36  
But we want to encourage you to practice your English. Come on in. We won't make fun of you for sure.

Deleasha Vincent  46:41  
That's right, because I guarantee you that your English is better at our attempts at your first language. 

Evan Franulovich  46:49  
For sure. Well, very cool. I mean, we're wrapping it up. I always ask last question is, you've already given so many great nuggets of wisdom and information. Definitely have to have you back down the road. 

Deleasha Vincent  47:01  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  47:02  
Any last bits of wisdom or advice that you want to impart to our either future students or our existing students, because hopefully they're listening to this as well. 

Deleasha Vincent  47:12  
Yeah, that's a great question. I always encourage students to have grace for themselves in the midst of this process, you are doing something that is a really big deal, coming to another country to study, leaving your family, leaving your support systems, everything that you're familiar with, to come to a new country to study that is not a small thing. So have grace for yourself. You're gonna have moments where you make a mistake, whether it's in class, or whether it's buying stuff at the grocery store and you say the wrong word, or you forget or you realize that you don't have the ingredients you have at home. There's always going to be small things. Just have grace for yourself, give yourself space to to laugh at yourself, or to laugh at the situation. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life, but apparently this is how Americans live. Have the grace to laugh and give yourself time to acclimate and enjoy what you're doing. 

Evan Franulovich  48:10  
Yeah, you can actually show up for your first semester 30 days in advance. 

Deleasha Vincent  48:14  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  48:15  
And if you can swing it, I highly recommend you do. Go out as far as you can, because that extra time finding a place to live, if you don't have one already, just looking around town as a tourist.

Deleasha Vincent  48:27  
Getting used to the spot that you're going to be. Because the more comfortable you feel in one area, that's really going to help as you're still getting used to other areas. So yeah, I would agree, if you can come early, do. Don't worry, your health insurance is gonna cover you in that time. But it's just such a good idea because it lets you settle before you start. 

Evan Franulovich  48:48  
For sure. And our orientations are usually the week before. 

Deleasha Vincent  48:52  
Yeah, come to the orientation, there's another good piece of advice. 

Evan Franulovich  48:55  
Yes, absolutely. A lot of people kind of like, 'Do I really need to go?' But I gotta tell you, it's not just good information, but you also get the chance to network with your cohort of students, which is really powerful. 

Deleasha Vincent  49:06  
Yes, to have people who are going through the same thing as you is always really good. And then to just get to know the school in a more informal way. Like to come to school when you don't have to immediately find your classroom, but you can walk around and see the campus and the different offices, that's a great. We do tours, so that's helpful. But yeah, organization is a great is a great time to just come and get settled and get your questions answered and all of those things. 

Evan Franulovich  49:33  
Yeah, be prepared. It's a lot of information. 

Deleasha Vincent  49:36  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  49:36  
Which is kind of the point. Come, get exposed to it all. If you have questions, we're always happy to answer those later in the road. Delicia, thanks so much for coming on the show. You can always reach out to us through our emails. What's the the front desks general email address?

Deleasha Vincent  49:57  
We have three. 

Evan Franulovich  49:59  
Oh, yeah. 

Deleasha Vincent  49:59  
So each campus has one. I-N-T-L, which is short for international. So  intlnorth@seattlecolleges.edu. Centrals is: Intlcentral@seattlecolleges.edu. And South is: Intlsouth@seattlecolleges.edu. We typically encourage prospective students to email you guys marketing and outreach, but you can always reach out, and we'll direct your email accordingly.

Evan Franulovich  50:31  
Right, right. 

Deleasha Vincent  50:32  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  50:32  
Who's checking that account? 

Deleasha Vincent  50:33  
Our front desk managers, student workers. So our front desk team monitors in response.

Evan Franulovich  50:40  
So someone's gonna get your email pretty quickly.

Deleasha Vincent  50:43  
Yeah, it's monitored daily. 

Evan Franulovich  50:44  
Okay. 

Deleasha Vincent  50:45  
Except for Saturday, Sunday, we take the weekends. Yeah, and holidays. We're not checking on holidays. 

Evan Franulovich  50:52  
All right, great. Thanks so much. 

Deleasha Vincent  50:53  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  50:54  
Thank you guys for coming back every Wednesday, right here on Seattle Colleges 'Conversations with!' Please don't forget to like, share and subscribe. We want to grow our listenership, whether you come to our school or another one, the information here is really great. We hope you'll consider us first. 

Deleasha Vincent  51:10  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  51:11  
Seattle College is a great place to start. Consider community colleges wonderful place. 

Deleasha Vincent  51:15  
Yes, absolutely.

Evan Franulovich  51:15  
We're both graduates. Yay, community colleges. All right, thanks again. Bye, bye!

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