S3E51: Seattle Colleges Conversations with! International Student Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’ of Mongolia

In this our fifty-first (51st) episode of Season 3, Seattle Colleges host Evan Franulovich interviews international student Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’ of Mongolia about his experience here at Seattle Colleges and about life in the United States. Kribkin, a musician, is the first guest to sing on the show! Check out his Instragram at Kribkin, and find his music online!

1:19 - Meet Kribkin!

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Transcript

Evan Franulovich  0:05  
Welcome to Seattle Colleges International Programs and our show 'Conversations with!', where we talk to people that help you understand how you too, can be an international student in the United States and why Seattle Colleges should be your first choice. We'll talk to students and staff and agents and government folks, all kinds of people about what you can expect when you're getting ready to apply or travel here, what you'll experience while you're with us, and how it can all lead to an amazing life. Don't forget to check out the Seattle Colleges International Programs website at intl.seattlecolleges.edu where you can find a treasure trove of information about the school, the programs here and best of all, fill out and submit your application. Again, that's intl.seattlecolleges.edu

Evan Franulovich  1:05  
Hi everybody! Welcome back to Seattle Colleges 'Conversations with!' Here in the beautiful city of Seattle, Washington in the United States. I am psyched, because this is our second guest from the great country of...?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  1:23  
Mongolia.

Evan Franulovich  1:23  
Mongolia! Yeah, it's been a long time since I've had a guest from Mongolia. So glad you're here. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  1:30  
Thank you.

Evan Franulovich  1:31  
Thanks for coming. Can you tell everybody who you are? Because I can't pronounce your name, I'm sorry to say. Tell them who you are, where you're from exactly in Mongolia, and then what your major is, and maybe how long you've been here. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  1:44  
Okay, first of all, I'm Kribkin, and I was born in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. What was the last question?

Evan Franulovich  1:55  
What's your major, and how long you've been here? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  1:57  
I'm majoring in Mechatronics. But it's going to be a transfer degree, so I'll be transferring to another university once I graduate this college.

Evan Franulovich  2:10  
And do you know where you want to go, or have you thought of a few different schools?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:15  
Well, there is plan A and plan B.

Evan Franulovich  2:19  
Of course. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:20  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  2:20  
So what's your dream school? Where would you want to transfer to?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:23  
Well, I don't dream about that. I just genuinely think studying in America is a good privilege.

Evan Franulovich  2:33  
Oh, is it? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:34  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:35  
Well, that's a good that's good news. It's been a good experience, and so far?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:39  
Yeah, and I've been feeling great ever since I studied in America.

Evan Franulovich  2:45  
Really? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:45  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:46  
So you arrived in which month?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:49  
I arrived in September, 2023.

Evan Franulovich  2:52  
Okay, so you got here in the fall. So you'll be graduating before too long?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  2:58  
Yeah, so I've been taking my credits low, so like 12 credits per quarter. So I'll be graduating in total of three years. Now the two years has passed, so I have one year left.

Evan Franulovich  3:15  
Right. Did you start in the Institute of English, or did you go right into college classes?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:25  
I directly went into the college without any English classes. Well, I took writing classes in America. 

Evan Franulovich  3:36  
You didn't have the ESL type stuff. So you had a good English proficiency score before you arrived. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:45  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  3:46  
Which test did you take before you got here? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:48  
IELTS. 

Evan Franulovich  3:49  
You took the IELTS. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:50  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  3:50  
Did you have to go to a testing center, or did you do the IELTS online?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:55  
There was a testing center. I usually prefer like in-person. 

Evan Franulovich  3:59  
Yeah.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  3:59  
Yes, it always feels better in-person. 

Evan Franulovich  4:04  
Was the test more difficult than you thought, or was it about what you expected?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:11  
It was about what I expected, because I did those mock tests and it went exactly how I expected to be. 

Evan Franulovich  4:19  
And so when you do the speaking portion, you actually sit across from someone, a native speaker?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:28  
I guess, she was from Philippines. 

Evan Franulovich  4:31  
She's from the Philippines. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:33  
But her English was so good. 

Evan Franulovich  4:35  
Was good. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:36  
I can tell that she was from the Philippines.

Evan Franulovich  4:41  
And she's living in Mongolia now?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:43  
Yeah, she was living in Mongolia. 

Evan Franulovich  4:45  
Yeah, that's cool. So let's go back to when you were living in Mongolia. Before you came to the United States, you were going to like, a private high school, or public high school?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  4:57  
Oh, yeah. So I spent my high school in a private high school. 

Evan Franulovich  5:03  
Oh, what's the name of the high school you went to? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:06  
It's called Ulaanbaatar Secondary School. 

Evan Franulovich  5:09  
Shout out to Ulaanbaatar Secondary School. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:12  
But I didn't learn English from there. 

Evan Franulovich  5:14  
No? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:14  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  5:15  
Well, how did you do it? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:16  
They usually teach Korean, and now I know a little bit of Korean, but not too much. 

Evan Franulovich  5:24  
Interesting. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:25  
Yeah, I actually learned my English from Warcraft. 

Evan Franulovich  5:29  
What?! I know Warcraft. That's cool!

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:34  
Yeah, it was really a fantastic game. Well, I learned my basics from my private Elementary School. And after I learned the basics, 'Yes, no, past tense, future tense.' I decided to watch those Cartoon Network shows. 

Evan Franulovich  5:57  
It's a great way to learn. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  5:59  
The Amazing World of Gumball, Steven's Universe, right? 

Evan Franulovich  6:02  
That's awesome. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  6:04  
Yeah, and those were my childhood favorite.

Evan Franulovich  6:06  
Yeah, you know, you're not the first person I've talked to that's learned English from playing video games. I have a friend in Belgium who plays, don't know if it's Call of Duty or some sort of game. But there's a lot of English setting on there. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  6:23  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  6:23  
That's a good way.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  6:25  
When you play that game, the NPC characters always praises you for what you did, you know? Which encourages you to listen to what they're what they're saying.

Evan Franulovich  6:38  
For sure. But you must have taken some more formal classes. All of your English was on video games?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  6:47  
Not all of it, actually — you know, because I learned something from high school, something from middle school.

Evan Franulovich  6:54  
Gotcha. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  6:57  
I took private courses, but I wouldn't say they taught me too much. 

Evan Franulovich  7:08  
Oh, okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:09  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  7:09  
Huh, that's really cool. So there you go, guys, if you want to improve your English, get on World of Warcraft. Do you still play? Are you a gamer? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:18  
Oh, it's just a normal Warcraft game, not the World of Warcraft.

Evan Franulovich  7:21  
Oh, it's not World of Warcraft. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:24  
It's the previous games of World of Warcraft. 

Evan Franulovich  7:29  
Oh. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:29  
Warcraft 3, Frozen Throne, Reign of Chaos.

Evan Franulovich  7:36  
I don't know. It's cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:37  
Yeah, those games were more about lores and stories, and I love those stories too.

Evan Franulovich  7:46  
But it's also interactive, right? You're playing with people from all over the world.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  7:50  
Yeah. Well, you're gonna be building some houses and some castles and some barracks to train your soldiers. I really like real time strategy games, like that's my most favorite type of games. I still play real time strategy game now called Polytopia. Or there's this survival game where you build houses for your survivors.

Evan Franulovich  8:22  
My boys, I have three sons, and they're all gamers. They all play games, and they develop games. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  8:29  
Wow. 

Evan Franulovich  8:29  
Yeah, they're amazing. They work in Blender and C++, and they're developing some really cool stuff. First person shooter games. They're putting it on Steam. Yeah, it's really cool. I'll tell you more about it later. You guys, I'll tell you more later so you can check it out. Mechatronics is one of those words before I started working here, I didn't even know that this word existed. So maybe there are other people out there that don't know what Mechatronics is. Can you explain it to them?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  9:04  
Well, Mechatronics is combination study of electronics and mechanics. Sometimes you can study programs, but usually factory programming. Which is kind of different from the usual program you do. 

Evan Franulovich  9:23  
What do you plan to do with that kind of a degree when you get home?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  9:26  
I'm planning to revolutionize something with robotic arms. But before that, I want to make animatronics. Animatronics has been my favorite my thing for a while.

Evan Franulovich  9:47  
Okay, explain is this people, like they're not like robots, right? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  9:53  
They're robots. 

Evan Franulovich  9:54  
Oh, they are robots.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  9:56  
They are robots, but they're not too advanceded robots. But I heard this animatronics word from Five Nights at Freddy's. It's another game. It's actually pretty horrific game. 

Evan Franulovich  10:24  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  10:25  
But I don't want to talk about it too much.

Evan Franulovich  10:29  
No worries. So I know that we have a number of clubs on campus. I think there's a robotics club. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  10:35  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  10:36  
Are you in it?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  10:37  
I developed my own Robotics Club at North Seattle College.

Evan Franulovich  10:42  
Well, tell me about it, or tell everybody about it. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  10:44  
So at the start of spring quarter, we opened our first robotics club, and then we just ordered before spring quarter ends, we ordered some robotic tools, and we're planning my co-partner and I will start building our robots during fall quarter. So if anybody's interested in robotics, I'm here.

Evan Franulovich  11:22  
We can find him for you. If he can't find him.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  11:25  
Yes, and I'll drop my email to you so that if anybody's interested, they can directly reach out to me. 

Evan Franulovich  11:35  
How many people do you have right now? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  11:36  
Well, about three to four. 

Evan Franulovich  11:39  
Okay, so it's small right now? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  11:41  
Yeah, it's small. 

Evan Franulovich  11:41  
But I think North has a club like that as well.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  11:46  
They did have a club like that, but I didn't know what happened to them. I heard they're closed, but we're trying to reopen this club. 

Evan Franulovich  11:56  
Cool, yeah. So if you're out there, your engineering student or mechatronic student, or just interested in robotics, check it out. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  12:05  
We also have engineering club, and then electronics. No, not electronics anymore, but programming club too.

Evan Franulovich  12:14  
Oh, yeah, I've heard about that. So do you participate in those clubs as well?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  12:18  
I don't have much time. 

Evan Franulovich  12:20  
You're busy. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  12:21  
Sometimes we cooperate with them. We're planning to cooperate with some projects, we've been talking about this quite long now. 

Evan Franulovich  12:34  
So in your major, I don't even know what kind of classes you take, are they all engineering classes, electronics classes?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  12:43  
Yes, engineering classes for now, and I'm guessing, I haven't checked my bachelor's classes, but for associates classes, you take basic engineering classes. 

Evan Franulovich  12:56  
Okay.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  12:57  
Normal electronics or, mechanical engineering classes. 

Evan Franulovich  13:06  
Gotcha. So you guys understand, if you don't understand, this is a community college, and usually a lot of our students come here to do a two plus two. You're here three years, so it's a little longer than two. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  13:20  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  13:20  
But how come it's going long for you? Is it normally three years for your major? Did you change your major at some point or something? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  13:28  
I changed my major and I'm taking classes that are not related to my major. I'm trying to make it longer so that I've I can work here on my campus longer.

Evan Franulovich  13:45  
Sure, yeah. So you have a job on campus? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  13:48  
Yeah, I also write music. 

Evan Franulovich  13:51  
Cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  13:51  
So I want, I would like to spend more time on those parts.

Evan Franulovich  13:56  
So what's the job that you have on campus?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  13:58  
Well, I work in a childcare center. 

Evan Franulovich  14:00  
In the what? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:01  
I work at the childcare center?

Evan Franulovich  14:03  
Oh, that's cool. Where?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:06  
At North Seattle College. 

Evan Franulovich  14:08  
Very cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:10  
Yeah, they have a North Seattle College Childcare Center. 

Evan Franulovich  14:13  
Yes, they do. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:14  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  14:14  
I didn't know that they hired international students there. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:17  
Yeah, they did. 

Evan Franulovich  14:18  
That's good to know. Are you the only international student working there?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:23  
Um, I don't know, actually. I know maybe one or two of them are international students, but I don't know if they're all international. 

Evan Franulovich  14:34  
Right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:35  
What visa they have? 

Evan Franulovich  14:37  
Sure. Well, that's the thing about Seattle, right? Everybody that lives here looks like they're international. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:44  
Yeah? 

Evan Franulovich  14:45  
Americans are such a diverse group of people. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:48  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  14:49  
We have people from Asia, Africa, Latin America. So everybody just looks like they belong. It's not a problem. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  14:55  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  14:55  
So how did you find that job? Did you just walk in and ask or did someone tell you?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  15:00  
No, actually, so I went on the school website and applied for every available job position out there. 

Evan Franulovich  15:07  
Oh, what do you mean on the website? Where on the website do they list jobs?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  15:12  
So I forgot how I did it. I did it like last year in September. 

Evan Franulovich  15:21  
Gotcha. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  15:23  
I got this list of email, and then started asking for job positions, and I sent my resume, and that's how I landed a job.

Evan Franulovich  15:42  
So what do they have you do? You just hang out with the kids and take care of them?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  15:47  
Oh, yeah. So I keep them safe from the other kids. 

Evan Franulovich  15:53  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  15:54  
I keep them busy, playing with them, small projects, like drawing a picture, or making a small Castle. 

Evan Franulovich  16:04  
That's so cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  16:05  
And then whenever there's an argument.

Evan Franulovich  16:12  
Get them apart.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  16:15  
Yeah, keep them apart, and try to cool them down.

Evan Franulovich  16:22  
Right. Do you ever teach them some Mongolian?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  16:26  
No, actually, nobody is interested in Mongolian.

Evan Franulovich  16:30  
Well, they should be interested. That would be cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  16:34  
I'll let you know there's two Mongolian kids in the child care center. Wonderful. 

Evan Franulovich  16:39  
Wow, that's great. My first guest used to work for the marketing department, Ujin. Do you know who Ujin? We have a lot of Mongolians students.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  16:59  
Maybe her nickname was Ujin, but I'm not sure.

Evan Franulovich  17:03  
Okay, well, I can show you a picture of her, you might recognize her. I know she has kids, but I don't think they go to the childcare center there. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:10  
Oh. 

Evan Franulovich  17:10  
Because I think they're still pretty little.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:12  
If she has a kid. I might not know her.

Evan Franulovich  17:16  
All right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:16  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  17:17  
Cool. So have you done childcare before? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:21  
Yeah, I have a sister.

Evan Franulovich  17:25  
Younger sister? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:27  
Younger sister. 

Evan Franulovich  17:28  
You took care of her?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:29  
Yeah, I used to take care of her. 

Evan Franulovich  17:31  
Well, what's she doing now? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:32  
Well, she's in high school now. She's pretty old. I used to take care of her when I was a kid, you know? I didn't enjoy my childhood pretty much. I used to cook for her and then take care of her when she was four years old, I used to take her to her school. 

Evan Franulovich  17:54  
Is that because mom and dad worked?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  17:56  
Yeah, it's because mom and dad were busy. 

Evan Franulovich  18:00  
What do they do? What's their jobs? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:02  
They're both traffic controllers. 

Evan Franulovich  18:03  
What?! That's cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:07  
They are like police but in a third dimension. 

Evan Franulovich  18:10  
Yeah, that's a stressful job. I would think.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:14  
One dimension added.

Evan Franulovich  18:17  
So were you used to hang out in the control tower with them?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:21  
Not really. But I saw what they do, and I know that they take care of people's life. 

Evan Franulovich  18:34  
Yeah, for sure, super important. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:36  
It's really responsible job. One mistake can lead to tradegy.

Evan Franulovich  18:45  
Yeah, well, that's cool. Does your sister want to follow in your footsteps? Is she looking at coming to the United States as well? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:51  
Well, one thing I'm worried about is she's in love with this boy. 

Evan Franulovich  18:56  
Oh, boy. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  18:57  
Now she wants to stay. 

Evan Franulovich  18:58  
Now she wants to hang out in Mongolia.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:02  
Suddenly she wants to stay home. I want to show her how cool it is to live in America. 

Evan Franulovich  19:08  
Right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:09  
Yeah, she just visited America. 

Evan Franulovich  19:10  
Oh, she was here?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:11  
A month ago. She was in Washington, DC, at my uncle's house. 

Evan Franulovich  19:18  
Yeah, that's cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:21  
Yeah, she visited me briefly for four or five days.

Evan Franulovich  19:27  
And what was her overall impression?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:30  
Her impression? Nothing, much. 

Evan Franulovich  19:33  
All right, she's like, 'Yeah, whatever.' 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:36  
She watched all of those stuffs from the internet. 

Evan Franulovich  19:40  
And she probably just wanted to go home to see her guy.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  19:47  
Probably, but not sure. 

Evan Franulovich  19:50  
Well, if you're out there listening, reconsider everything. Yeah, that's cool. So how much time does she have left before she's done with high school?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:02  
Two years now. She still has a little time. She's interested in law in Mongolia.

Evan Franulovich  20:12  
Right. Are you doing classes this summer?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:17  
Not really. I'm just finishing my incomplete class.

Evan Franulovich  20:20  
Oh, okay. So you're on vacation quarter basically.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:23  
Basically, but I still study my incomplete class. I have to give my test in about nine days now. 

Evan Franulovich  20:29  
What's the class? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:31  
Math - Calculus 2. Last quarter was my head was somewhere else.

Evan Franulovich  20:41  
It was exploding. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:43  
Yeah, I was busy writing music. 

Evan Franulovich  20:46  
Oh, yeah. Well, let's talk about your music. Have you published any music yet? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:52  
I published one music so far. 

Evan Franulovich  20:54  
On iTunes? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  20:55  
On every platform out there.

Evan Franulovich  20:59  
You want to tell them where to go to find your music?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:02  
Yeah, you just type Kribkin - Nature of Us. In any music platform you see.

Evan Franulovich  21:09  
All right, and what genre, what kind of music?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:14  
I would say it's Bluesy, Jazzy type of music. But my upcoming songs are kind of different, rock pop.

Evan Franulovich  21:26  
And you sing in English, or you sing in Mongolian? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:30  
I sing in English. 

Evan Franulovich  21:32  
Okay.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:32  
Because that's the way you'll reach out to people more. 

Evan Franulovich  21:36  
It's a bigger market, for sure. Although I got to tell you, my youngest son is really into this band from Mongolia. They do throat singing. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:45  
Oh yeah, it's called The Hook. 

Evan Franulovich  21:46  
They're kind of like metal. That's awesome stuff, but very different. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  21:51  
Yeah, very cool. 

Evan Franulovich  21:55  
He saw them in concert in Spokane, which is not a very big city in the United States, but they tour through. Yeah, he went and got to see them. That's pretty cool. Did you go see him?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:05  
I'm gonna see him when they come here.

Evan Franulovich  22:08  
When they come to Seattle, they'll be in Seattle, for sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:10  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  22:11  
So you have, so you have a lot of different tastes. You like all kinds of music.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:15  
Yes, and my upcoming songs, I can sing my latest song that I wrote recently to you.

Evan Franulovich  22:22  
Yeah, help yourself. You will be my first guest who sings on the show. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:28  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  22:29  
That's cool. And my brother will love this, because he's really into music. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:34  
Okay, are you ready? 

Evan Franulovich  22:37  
Lay it on us.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  22:39  
Moonlight, you make me happy when I was walking by the sea. Moonlight, you make me happy when there's nobody but you're here. Falling like it's not flying. Why would you ever jump from Cliff? Maybe it's meant to fly, but you left something precious here. I want to fly away with you, but I always falling down into Earth. I want to fly away that's true, and someday it will come true. Now you had left me. Why do I want you to be back? Baby, I'll let you go, because Moonlight is always here. Lady, please leave me be. Don't you ever come back and cry. Lately, my heart is somewhere else that I might hurt you, my dear. I left this world you see, and I'll never come back to see you. I'm about blue sky, far away. Come see me among stars. There is more, but I don't want...

Evan Franulovich  24:12  
That's great. You have a great voice. It kind of reminds me of like Harry Connick, Michael Buble. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  24:18  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:19  
That's really good. You were in the talent show?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  24:21  
Yeah, I was, but I didn't sing my own song, and I wasn't prepared for that song either. 

Evan Franulovich  24:28  
Well, this would have been really great. I mean, I remember you, did you have your guitar?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  24:35  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  24:36  
We had a kid with a guitar. I can't remember. So you sang, just without any music backup?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  24:43  
I sang with a backup. The problem was, back then I didn't prepare too much, so I just I didn't even knew the lyrics the day before yesterday, and then I learned the lyrics yesterday. 

Evan Franulovich  25:00  
So last minute. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  25:02  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  25:04  
Actually, I was really impressed with the talent show. Everybody did a really great job, and we had a lot of different kinds of acts, that's for sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  25:11  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  25:12  
So that was pretty exciting. Yeah, I love doing that. They do it every year in the spring, so maybe if you're still here next spring...

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  25:21  
Yeah, I'll sing my own song then.

Evan Franulovich  25:23  
Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Cool. We had students from both North and Central. We didn't have any South students, which was sad, but maybe next year. South students come to the talent show. It's really cool. Nice job. And you wrote all that? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  25:40  
I wrote all that, and then there's more, but I didn't want it to take all the minutes.

Evan Franulovich  25:45  
And do you normally, do you write songs using guitar or using piano?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  25:50  
Well, I just write it without any kind of instruments. Instruments are the next thing. It just comes into my head. 

Evan Franulovich  26:00  
All right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:01  
And then I record it on my phone recorder, and then I try to bring this small portable piano. 

Evan Franulovich  26:16  
Oh, yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:18  
And then I press those keys. 

Evan Franulovich  26:20  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:21  
After I record my voice, and then I try to find the notes. 

Evan Franulovich  26:28  
Gotcha. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:28  
I can't tell if it's on D or C or A. I'm not an expert. 

Evan Franulovich  26:35  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:36  
Yeah, I'm just doing what I can.

Evan Franulovich  26:38  
Well, you're young, you're still learning that. Are you taking any music lessons while you're here? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  26:43  
No, just doing this. 

Evan Franulovich  26:45  
It's amazing. I have a friend whose son was in high school in he created a couple of tracks and put them up on iTunes, and they're amazing. He just does it all on his Mac. He uses, I think, Garage Band?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  27:03  
Oh, yeah? 

Evan Franulovich  27:03  
And he just throws them together. It's pretty amazing. If you're interested in making music these days, it seems like there's no excuse, because all you need is a laptop and a mic basically. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  27:15  
Yeah, but I tried one of those things, but it's really hard. 

Evan Franulovich  27:18  
Is it hard? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  27:19  
Yeah, it is hard. Yeah, it was hard at first, but then now it's still hard, but I haven't tried more yet, but I'll tackle with it later.

Evan Franulovich  27:27  
It'll get easier as AI... I mean, you'll just be able to say, play me a song, or play me this kind of a sound, and it'll just do it for you, which will be nuts. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  27:37  
That'll be fantastic. 

Evan Franulovich  27:39  
Well, some people would say it's not fantastic. It's terrible. Other people say it's awesome. We love it.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  27:46  
It's fantastic. That's all I would say. AI is getting better.

Evan Franulovich  27:53  
Cool. Well, is there a music club, or is there other people you get together with in play or sing with? Or this is all by yourself? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:01  
All by myself. 

Evan Franulovich  28:02  
All right, guys, well, I know there are other people out there that are into music.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:06  
Well, actually, I'm in a studio, but it's not related to my school. 

Evan Franulovich  28:14  
Right, right. I mean, who knows, maybe you study Mechatronics, but you end up being a music singer.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:23  
Well, I'm gonna study Mechatronics regardless if I become a famous singer. 

Evan Franulovich  28:29  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:30  
I'm studying Mechatronics because this type of engineering is pretty useful for my country. 

Evan Franulovich  28:39  
For sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:41  
Not just for my country, it's just for people. Engineering is for people. Make people's life easier. 

Evan Franulovich  28:50  
Right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  28:50  
Also, I have this vision in my head, and I wanted to make it true, and that's why it's essential to learn Mechatronics.

Evan Franulovich  28:59  
Right on. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  29:00  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  29:00  
So do you think that the classes you have left are going to help get you set up for OPT? Are you thinking about taking a year to do OPT and then doing your junior and senior year? Or are you doing classes just so you can transfer and go right into your junior and senior year? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  29:27  
Well, OPT is also what I'm considering. International students have to make money. You know, they can't be always depended on their parents? 

Evan Franulovich  29:39  
For sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  29:39  
Right? 

Evan Franulovich  29:40  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  29:40  
At some point you need to be financially dependent.

Evan Franulovich  29:47  
Right. I mean, early childhood care center is great for earning money and stuff, but if you want to work in your field, if you go to a community college, one of the benefits, of course, is after you get your transfer degree. You can do up to a year of OPT in your field of study. So I don't know what companies out there need your kind of thing, but I'm sure there's a bunch of them, especially since there's so much aerospace industry in Seattle. Yeah, there's a lot of opportunity out there it seems like. Well, that's cool. What's been your favorite class so far?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  30:22  
Well, my favorite class? Well, it's been math, actually.

Evan Franulovich  30:29  
Really? You're the second person that said that. That blows my mind. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  30:33  
When you when you actually understand math, it actually becomes more interesting. If you don't understand the core essence, it just become meaningless. And also, I like those English courses where you write, express yourself. And outside these classes, I really love my job at the childcare center, because I'm learning about myself and I'm learning how to deal with kids. Well, I'm thinking that I'll one day become a dad, right? 

Evan Franulovich  31:06  
Yeah, probably. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  31:07  
It's a good lesson. It's a good thing to learn. 

Evan Franulovich  31:10  
For sure, absolutely. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  31:12  
Right? And also, by working at this childcare center, I'm kind of learning how to understand what's going on in my head mentally. And, you know, men usually aren't interested in this type of field. And I wasn't interested in this part of field, you know? But as I work with the childcare center, I'm realizing that, mental health is equally important, as you know...

Evan Franulovich  31:50  
For sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  31:51  
...an intellect and logic.

Evan Franulovich  31:54  
I think it's great for kids to see men... 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  31:56  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  31:57  
...In those roles, those caretaking roles. Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  31:59  
I worked in a daycare center in Alaska for a short time. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  32:04  
Yeah? 

Evan Franulovich  32:04  
Grizzly Cubs. Shout out to Grizzly Cubs. Yeah. I took care of these little guys, it's a lot of work. I worked from 4am until noon or something. I worked the early shift, and then someone would come in. It was a good job. Really interesting. I learned a lot about myself. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  32:30  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  32:31  
Cool. So what are you going to do as far as the rest of the summer? Are you going to go on any trips? Are you just working? Yeah, what's your plan?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  32:47  
I'm gonna be continuing studying some of my math. 

Evan Franulovich  32:51  
Okay.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  32:51  
Because there is something I need to review. 

Evan Franulovich  32:58  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  32:58  
And there's chemistry, my worst class is chemistry. 

Evan Franulovich  33:04  
Really? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  33:06  
Yeah, I think with time and some effort, I think I'll understand chemistry. 

Evan Franulovich  33:15  
Sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  33:16  
But it's not simple as 1+1.

Evan Franulovich  33:20  
It's right, it's a little complicated. So let's go talk real fast, because we're running out of time. We talked about a million things, but your visa process, you know, a lot of people, students that are thinking about coming are always interested in this. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  33:35  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  33:36  
How long from the time you got accepted at Seattle Colleges till the time you went in for your interview, how long? How much time passed? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  33:44  
Well, could you repeat that question?

Evan Franulovich  33:49  
Sure. So when you applied to Seattle Colleges, you get accepted and you get a letter and an I-20 and then that lets you set up your appointment at the embassy. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  33:58  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  33:58  
So how long did it take for you to get that appointment.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:02  
Well, I took a gap year and then applied, and I applied to schools during the end of the fall quarter, and I got accepted around winter, at the end of the winter quarter. I did my visa process during summer.

Evan Franulovich  34:26  
So it took a few months at least. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:28  
Yeah, I mean, I wasn't too rushed or anything. 

Evan Franulovich  34:31  
Right, right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:32  
Oh, actually, it was actually spring, now that I remember. 

Evan Franulovich  34:36  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:36  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  34:37  
So a bit too long. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:38  
Yeah. But it was like summer to me. The snow was already melting and turning green. 

Evan Franulovich  34:50  
Yeah, yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:50  
That's why I thought it was summer.

Evan Franulovich  34:53  
So when you went, what kind of questions did they ask? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  34:57  
Well, they asked about what my parents did, and my proof of income, where we did my proof of income came from, and if any of my relatives lived in America. Well, at that time, none of them lived. But now, my uncle lives in the East Coast. 

Evan Franulovich  35:17  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  35:18  
I'm in the West Coast.

Evan Franulovich  35:20  
You're in the West Coast, he's in the East Coast. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  35:22  
Yeah, I don't remember too much. 

Evan Franulovich  35:30  
No, that's great. So it didn't last very long.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  35:33  
Yeah, from what I understand, you just have to prove that you're a good citizen.

Evan Franulovich  35:42  
Yeah, and you can pay your way. Did they give it to you on your first try? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  35:48  
Yes, I did.

Evan Franulovich  35:55  
Well, that's cool. So you got your visa, and then you started preparing. What kinds of things did you do to prepare to come to the United States? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  35:56  
Well, I didn't actually do much.

Evan Franulovich  36:02  
You must have bought some suitcases or something. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:09  
Well, I brought my two underwear, two socks.

Evan Franulovich  36:18  
Oh my gosh.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:22  
Two shirts.

Evan Franulovich  36:23  
Oh, my God. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:23  
That's all I brought. 

Evan Franulovich  36:24  
That's all you brought? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:26  
And also, I brought my national clothes called Dell.

Evan Franulovich  36:35  
Well, so did that mean you had to buy clothes when you got here?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:40  
I didn't buy too much. But since I enrolled in this enrolled in this modeling agency. 

Evan Franulovich  36:49  
Here in Seattle?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  36:51  
Yeah, they're requiring a lot of fashion clothes. So recently, I'm buying more clothes now. I spend like $90 for clothing.

Evan Franulovich  37:01  
So anyway, so you make music, but you also are trying to do some modeling on the side as well. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:06  
You know. 

Evan Franulovich  37:07  
That's cool. So what agency are you hooked up with?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:12  
It's actually a management company, but it's called agency for some reason. 

Evan Franulovich  37:17  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:18  
It's called Dominic Talent USA Agency LLC. 

Evan Franulovich  37:25  
All right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:27  
Yeah, it's Dominic Talent USA. 

Evan Franulovich  37:28  
So you've had headshots. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:30  
I've got some headshots at backstage. Backstage is a company website, where models and producers meet each other. 

Evan Franulovich  37:48  
Oh, okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:49  
It's more like a hiring area section. 

Evan Franulovich  37:53  
Sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  37:55  
One wants to get hired. One wants to hire somebody.

Evan Franulovich  37:59  
Right. Exactly. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:00  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  38:01  
And so, have you had auditions? Have you had any jobs yet? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:04  
Well, I modeled. I had one modeling job, three weeks ago, and I modeled in Roosevelt Hotel. 

Evan Franulovich  38:04  
Oh, very cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:06  
Yeah, on the top floor. 

Evan Franulovich  38:22  
On the top floor?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:25  
On the on top floor. 

Evan Franulovich  38:26  
Wow, cool. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:28  
Yeah. And I saw the that big Roosevelt Hotel letter, those old red letters.

Evan Franulovich  38:36  
Yeah, that's super fun. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:40  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  38:40  
So you also probably meet a lot of people that way. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  38:43  
I met a lot of people, but I wasn't expecting too much. So I didn't get their contact information. But, you know? It's all right. 

Evan Franulovich  39:00  
Yeah, yeah. So you guys should know if you're interested in this kind of thing, if you're interested in filmmaking or modeling or acting, there are a number of agencies in Seattle, but there's also Facebook pages and places you can go that you know people are looking for people. Sometimes it's paid, sometimes it's not paid. Sometimes you're just volunteering. I've worked on a couple of films, just given my time and having good building my resume or whatever. So, yeah, it's a good time. All right, wow. You've got a whole lot of things going on. This is pretty much what you do. You make music, you do modeling kinds of stuff for fun. That's your day. Do you ever go see the movies, or you ever go to the movie theater?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  39:46  
Um, not too much. 

Evan Franulovich  39:46  
Not too much. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  39:48  
Yeah, but I watch some Gumball and Darwin shows.

Evan Franulovich  39:53  
Oh, yeah, of course. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  39:54  
You know, from Disney Plaza. It's funny.

Evan Franulovich  40:00  
Well, you mentioned working at the place, but, you know, we have a lot of scholarships that are available at Seattle Colleges. Did you apply for any of the scholarships?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  40:09  
I applied for all of them, but I won $1,400 in total.

Evan Franulovich  40:17  
For foundation? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  40:19  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  40:20  
Yeah, cool. And that's better than nothing, right? And you can apply every year. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  40:25  
Yeah, you can apply for every year. 

Evan Franulovich  40:28  
Oh, do you hear that? That means it's Trivia Time. This is the part of the show where we ask you five trivia questions. If you get them all right, you're on our wall of fame. If you get any wrong, you'll probably cry yourself asleep tonight. That's okay, though. All right. Question number one: In Seattle, we have a professional baseball team. Do you know the name of our professional baseball team?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  40:53  
Mariners? 

Evan Franulovich  40:54  
Yes, it's the mariners.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  40:56  
I don't know much about baseball, but I see the logo whenever I went to the light rail link station. 

Evan Franulovich  41:07  
Yeah, yeah.  

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  41:07  
Everybody wears this big shirt that says Mariners.

Evan Franulovich  41:11  
Well, you should go to a game. I mean, it's a fairly inexpensive form of entertainment.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  41:17  
And do you know what Seahawks are? 

Evan Franulovich  41:19  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  41:20  
Is this also one of those baseball teams?

Evan Franulovich  41:23  
No, it's a football team. Oh, it's our professional football team. Yeah, Seattle has a lot of great professional we got professional soccer team. We've got basketball for women the Seattle Storm.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  41:36  
Yeah, baseball, football. I want to see some NBA teams. 

Evan Franulovich  41:40  
I know they keep talking about the Sonics coming back to Seattle, but hasn't happened yet. Come on, get on it, guys. We want to have a professional team. I think the closest one is Portland, Oregon. If you go down to see the trailblazers play. And it's not that far, you can get on an Amtrak train and be down there in just a few hours. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  41:58  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  41:58  
It's pretty cool. All right, good question number two, if you wanted to travel to Canada, what do you need to do with your I-20 before you go?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:10  
Well, I think you need to apply for a visa first.

Evan Franulovich  42:16  
You would need to get a visa, probably, yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:18  
And then you got to show your I-20. 

Evan Franulovich  42:20  
Yes, that's right. And you should have something done to your I-20 before you leave. What should you do? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:25  
You need to request a Travel Form. 

Evan Franulovich  42:28  
Yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:28  
And then you need some signatures.

Evan Franulovich  42:32  
Yeah, that's right. Cool. Have you been to Canada yet?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:37  
No, I think, because there's a lot of things I have on my table right now. 

Evan Franulovich  42:43  
That's true. I know you're busy. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:45  
But even if I had some money, I would kind of save it now. 

Evan Franulovich  42:49  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:50  
For my future. 

Evan Franulovich  42:51  
Well, if you're out there and you're interested in going to Canada, it's only 200 kilometers away. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:56  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  42:56  
Right up.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  42:57  
Only two 200 kilometers away. 

Evan Franulovich  42:59  
Not too far. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  43:00  
Yeah, that's cool. 

Evan Franulovich  43:01  
All right. Question number three: Seattle Colleges has three campuses, as you know. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  43:06  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  43:07  
You work at the North Campus. What is the mascot? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  43:12  
The tree frogs. 

Evan Franulovich  43:14  
The tree frogs. Nice. All right. Question number four: How old does a student need to be by the first day of classes in order to come to school?

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  43:29  
Could you repeat that question? 

Evan Franulovich  43:31  
How old do you have to be in order to start your university education at Seattle Colleges? If you're an international student.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  43:40  
Oh, yeah, if you're an international student, you have to be 18 years old, but if you have somebody living here under legal guardian, it's okay if you're in high school.

Evan Franulovich  43:40  
Yes! Well, actually, so I'm going to give you credit for that, because you have to be at least 16 years of age by the first day of classes. You don't have to have a legal guardian or anything. You can come here as what's called a high school completion plus student, and you can do your first two years of university, earn your associate's degree and a high school diploma.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  44:19  
My question is, you can't travel by yourself if you're below 18 years old.

Evan Franulovich  44:26  
Well, we have students that come here for their High School Completion Plus program. So there is a way to do it.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  44:34  
I see. Yeah, but how do you get into that plane if you're, like, if you're only 16 years old?

Evan Franulovich  44:39  
No, I think you can get on the plane at 16. For example, I was an exchange student to Belgium when I was 16, so I left the United States, and I just had my passport, and it was no problem. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  44:49  
Got it. 

Evan Franulovich  44:50  
I don't know what the cutoff is. Each airline might be a little different, you can check. But for our purposes, if you're only 16, then you would need to do a homestay program. When you're 17, you can live in our dorms, or do homestay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  45:12  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  45:13  
But yeah, good. All right, close enough. I'll give you credit for that last question. Since you're so into music. What song are you listening to right now by another artist that you can't stop listening to? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  45:44  
Nobody knows this song. 

Evan Franulovich  45:49  
I don't know this song.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  45:51  
Nobody knows this song. 

Evan Franulovich  45:51  
All right. Go out there and explore.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  45:51  
But this song is just stuck inside my head. But I recently I've been listening to this... I usually listen to Lana Del Rey, Billie Eilish. 

Evan Franulovich  46:03  
Okay, yeah. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:05  
Those are my most favorite, and sometimes Frank Sinatra.

Evan Franulovich  46:09  
The classics. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:10  
Yeah, cuz I can also sing Frank Sinatra. 

Evan Franulovich  46:14  
For sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:15  
And Elvis Presley, right? 

Evan Franulovich  46:17  
You ever go to karaoke? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:20  
Well, I want to.

Evan Franulovich  46:22  
I'll bet you do. I just went, not last week, but the week before, near where I live, and it was a really fun time. First time I'd done it for a long time. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:33  
Yeah, but the latest song I'm listening to is 'Winner Takes It All' from Abba. 

Evan Franulovich  46:33  
Oh, classic! 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:37  
Yeah. "The winner takes it all. The loser has to fall. It's simple, and it's plain. Why should I complain?"

Evan Franulovich  46:48  
That's cool. You know, my wife did a song by Abba at the karaoke too. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  46:52  
Wow. That's amazing. 

Evan Franulovich  46:54  
Very cool. Well, we're at the part of the show now... By the way, good job! Wall of Fame for you. You'll be up on the wall of fame for sure. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  47:06  
Thanks. 

Evan Franulovich  47:07  
So for you, we always ask our guests to say something in their first language, and in your case, Mongolian, yeah? So maybe a lot of people out there have never heard this language. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  47:18  
So I'm gonna go with this quote. 

Evan Franulovich  47:21  
All right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  47:22  
I'm gonna say it now. 

Evan Franulovich  47:26  
All right, go for it.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  47:49  
*Kirbkin's quote in Mongolian* I'm done. 

Evan Franulovich  47:55  
Cool. Nice job. That's amazing. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:02  
This is my motivation quote. 

Evan Franulovich  48:06  
Oh, let's hear it. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:09  
Whenever I'm in trouble, I kind of remind this quote for myself. 

Evan Franulovich  48:15  
Just to motivate you, to keep you your spirits high. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:19  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  48:19  
Cool. Do you want to translate it? What does it mean? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:25  
Well, it is hard to translate. 

Evan Franulovich  48:27  
No worries. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:28  
I'll try my best. 

Evan Franulovich  48:28  
What's the general essence of it? So you don't have to try.

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:33  
So the context is about dreaming big. 

Evan Franulovich  48:33  
Okay. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:33  
You have to go for it. 

Evan Franulovich  48:40  
Right. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  48:40  
Don't feel despaired doing that. You'll eventually reach that goal, once you go for it. 

Evan Franulovich  49:03  
I love it. That's great. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  49:04  
And at the end of that quote, with muscles, you can beat one. And with heart power, or with emotional power, you'll beat 100 people. 

Evan Franulovich  49:20  
Awesome. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  49:21  
All right, there is an idiom, to those word that I just said.

Evan Franulovich  49:33  
Well, people back home will understand. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  49:35  
They'll definitely remember what I said. 

Evan Franulovich  49:38  
Right on. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  49:39  
But for those who's trying to understand in English, I don't remember the idiom.

Evan Franulovich  49:47  
All right. Well, the final thing is, you've been through it. You're a veteran now, and what you just said is kind of great advice. But do you have other pearls of wisdom to offer students that are thinking about coming to the United States, maybe going to a community college? 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  50:06  
Yeah, do whatever you can. Just if you want to do it, just do it. Just do it from Nike. That's right,

Evan Franulovich  50:14  
Good job. Well, it was so nice to visit with you and get to know you a little bit more. Hopefully we'll see at the talent show next fall or spring, I mean. I'll see you around campus and probably on the subway. So I'm on the subway, I'm like, 'I know that guy.' Yeah, just walk right on by. Okay, man, thanks so much. You guys, thanks for joining us. We're here every Wednesday. We interview students and staff and hopefully give you guys some great information. Please, like, share and subscribe. We want to grow this channel. We want people to get great advice no matter where they go to school, but hopefully you'll consider Seattle Colleges. All right, have a great rest of your summer. 

Ulziinyam Enkh Amar ‘Kribkin’  50:57  
Thank you. 

Evan Franulovich  50:58  
Take care. Bye, bye. 

Evan Franulovich  51:02  
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