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Evan Franulovich Season 3 Episode 52

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In this our fifty-second (52nd) and final episode of Season 3, Seattle Colleges host Evan Franulovich interviews international student Leilet Kebebew of Ethiopia about her experience here at Seattle Colleges and about life in the United States. 

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Evan Franulovich  0:05  
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Evan Franulovich  1:05  
Hi everybody! Welcome back to Seattle Colleges 'Conversations with!' We're here at Seattle Central College and finally a guest from Ethiopia joins us. I've been trying to get somebody on the show from Ethiopia, because we have a lot of students from Ethiopia. 

Leilet Kebebew  1:24  
We do. 

Evan Franulovich  1:25  
Yeah, so let's get started by telling them who you are, where you're from exactly, what you're studying, and maybe how long you've been here. 

Leilet Kebebew  1:31  
All right, so my name is Leilet Kebebew. I'm from Ethiopia, originally from a small city called Hawassa. Used to be the capital city of the southern part of Ethiopia. Yeah, no longer. That's where I'm from. And I'm studying business administration here at Seattle. 

Evan Franulovich  1:52  
Oh, cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  1:53  
And then I've been here since December, which is eight months now. 

Evan Franulovich  1:57  
Wow. 

Leilet Kebebew  1:57  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  1:58  
Getting close to a year. 

Leilet Kebebew  2:00  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:01  
So you came directly from Ethiopia to get here?

Leilet Kebebew  2:07  
No, I came from Nigeria. 

Evan Franulovich  2:09  
You came from Nigeria? 

Leilet Kebebew  2:10  
Yeah, it's been a while since I left Ethiopia.

Evan Franulovich  2:12  
Well, let's roll it back a little bit. You grew up in Ethiopia, and from what I understand is your hometown sits right next to a big lake. Isn't that true? 

Leilet Kebebew  2:24  
Yes, it's all about the lake.

Evan Franulovich  2:27  
Is it?

Leilet Kebebew  2:27  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:27  
Can you swim in the lake?

Leilet Kebebew  2:30  
My mom said that that's where she learned how to swim. I don't think anymore, but that was the only source.

Evan Franulovich  2:39  
Lot of birds, a lot of wildlife. 

Leilet Kebebew  2:41  
Fish. 

Evan Franulovich  2:41  
Really cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  2:42  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  2:42  
So it sounds like a pretty nice area.

Leilet Kebebew  2:44  
It's very pretty, especially like when I grew up, it was a very small population, so it was just green land, small, nothing big.

Evan Franulovich  2:58  
Did you go to grade school there?

Leilet Kebebew  3:00  
I was there until seven or eight. So first grade.

Evan Franulovich  3:03  
First grade? 

Leilet Kebebew  3:04  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  3:04  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  3:04  
That's when I left. 

Evan Franulovich  3:06  
And then you left because of things that were happening within the country or...?

Leilet Kebebew  3:11  
Oh, no. It's just because my dad works for an NGO (Non-governmental organization). 

Evan Franulovich  3:17  
Oh, okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  3:17  
So he had to move to Jordan, and then he got a family mission, so he took us there.

Evan Franulovich  3:22  
Initially, you went to Jordan? 

Leilet Kebebew  3:24  
Yeah, right after Hawassa, I went to Jordan. 

Evan Franulovich  3:27  
In Amman? 

Leilet Kebebew  3:27  
Yep. 

Evan Franulovich  3:29  
And how long were you in Amman?

Leilet Kebebew  3:31  
For a year. 

Evan Franulovich  3:31  
And what'd you think?

Leilet Kebebew  3:33  
I loved it. Oh, it's beautiful. 

Evan Franulovich  3:35  
I love it, yeah. But you were only there for a year. When you were there, did you go to a private school, or did you go to the public schools there? 

Leilet Kebebew  3:43  
Oh, I went to a private school. 

Evan Franulovich  3:46  
And do you speak Arabic? 

Leilet Kebebew  3:48  
No. I mean, I'm not good with the languages, but I did start learning Arabic while I was there, and I was good at it until I left.

Evan Franulovich  3:57  
But there you go. 

Leilet Kebebew  3:59  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  3:59  
So you returned to Ethiopia or went elsewhere? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:02  
I have returned to Ethiopia. 

Evan Franulovich  4:03  
You did? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:04  
Yeah, to Addis. 

Evan Franulovich  4:05  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  4:05  
For about five years.

Evan Franulovich  4:07  
All right, so that takes you into junior high?

Leilet Kebebew  4:12  
Right before high school, I left again. 

Evan Franulovich  4:15  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  4:16  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  4:16  
So where'd you do High School? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:18  
In Eswatini.

Evan Franulovich  4:21  
If you guys don't know where Eswatini is, get out your map so you can find it. 

Leilet Kebebew  4:25  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  4:26  
It's down south. And you did all of your high school in Eswatini. 

Leilet Kebebew  4:30  
Yeah, you can say that. 

Evan Franulovich  4:33  
So you got your diploma? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:35  
My IGCSE. 

Evan Franulovich  4:37  
That's obviously a private school? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:40  
Yep, I went to UWC. 

Evan Franulovich  4:42  
UWC, that's the name of the school? 

Leilet Kebebew  4:44  
No, it's the United World College. So there's like 17 of them around the world, and I guess they're a big deal.

Evan Franulovich  4:52  
Okay, shout out to UWC. 

Leilet Kebebew  4:53  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  4:55  
That's really cool. Did you specialize in anything, or is it kind of just a general academic curriculum?

Leilet Kebebew  5:02  
General. So IGCSE is like GCSE, which is the one they do in the UK, but for international. So it becomes IGCSE. 

Evan Franulovich  5:02  
So what do you think of Eswatini?

Leilet Kebebew  5:14  
I guess, it's a good place for someone who's looking to settle. For a teenager and stuff, there isn't a lot to do. 

Evan Franulovich  5:22  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  5:23  
And but for someone who's like an old adult planning to raise a family there, it's very quiet, peaceful, especially for an African country, it is safe. 

Evan Franulovich  5:32  
Wow. 

Leilet Kebebew  5:33  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  5:34  
I definitely would like to check it out. We had a guest from Eswatini on the show. Did you learn Afrikaans at all while you were there? 

Leilet Kebebew  5:43  
No, they don't speak Afrikaans. Yeah, that's more of a South African thing. The only thing I learned from their language is Sabona.

Evan Franulovich  5:54  
Sabona? 

Leilet Kebebew  5:55  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  5:55  
Which means? 

Leilet Kebebew  5:56  
Hi. 

Evan Franulovich  5:58  
Well, that's cool. So you're in Eswatini, going to school. Is it you that starts thinking about studying overseas, or do your parents kind of start planting seeds in your head?

Leilet Kebebew  6:12  
Yeah, I think it was always the plan, because I can't, it's not like I could go back to Ethiopia. That wasn't an option. So it was either like, I had to go somewhere.

Evan Franulovich  6:23  
Why can't you go back to Ethiopia? If you don't mind me asking? 

Leilet Kebebew  6:27  
Yeah, I think it's just more education wise. 

Evan Franulovich  6:30  
Oh. 

Leilet Kebebew  6:30  
We needed quality of education. And it's just we no longer had a life as a family. 

Evan Franulovich  6:37  
Gotcha. 

Leilet Kebebew  6:38  
So we kind of left. Returning would have been difficult.

Evan Franulovich  6:42  
Right, right. So you decide I'm going to go overseas. Did you consider Australia, UK, America, Canada? 

Leilet Kebebew  6:52  
My first plan was Europe, I wanted to go to Liverpool. That's very specific, I know.

Evan Franulovich  7:01  
Yeah, there is a soccer team there.

Leilet Kebebew  7:05  
And I thought business management and Liverpool. 

Evan Franulovich  7:10  
Right? 

Leilet Kebebew  7:10  
Especially sport management, that was the goal.

Evan Franulovich  7:14  
Oh, that's cool. Why didn't you go?

Leilet Kebebew  7:18  
I guess one, financial reasons. And then my family were like, 'It's too far.' We don't know anyone there.

Evan Franulovich  7:29  
So when you looked at the states. 

Leilet Kebebew  7:31  
Yeah?

Evan Franulovich  7:32  
Did you only look at Seattle?

Leilet Kebebew  7:35  
It's funny, because I kept on looking for colleges rather than cities, and I kind of kept on coming back to Seattle Central, I don't know why. It was like a two years of research, I was just looking at them, but somehow I always find myself looking at Seattle Central. And then my dad was like, 'Oh yeah, I have a family friend there.' 

Evan Franulovich  7:57  
Perfect. 

Leilet Kebebew  7:58  
I'm okay with you going there.

Evan Franulovich  8:01  
You apply. 

Leilet Kebebew  8:02  
I applied. 

Evan Franulovich  8:03  
You get accepted. 

Leilet Kebebew  8:05  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  8:06  
Cool. And was it always business? From the time you first started you haven't changed your major at all here? 

Leilet Kebebew  8:12  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  8:13  
Cool. All right, so you get accepted, but you are not in Eswatini anymore. Where are you? 

Leilet Kebebew  8:20  
Nigeria. 

Evan Franulovich  8:21  
So how did you get from Eswatini to Nigeria? 

Leilet Kebebew  8:24  
My dad again, he keeps on transferring and taking us with him. 

Evan Franulovich  8:30  
So you actually made your application from Nigeria. 

Leilet Kebebew  8:33  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  8:34  
And then how long did it take before you got your acceptance and your I-20?

Leilet Kebebew  8:42  
I think I applied in 2024, and I got it in maybe June or mid year. 

Evan Franulovich  8:43  
You started the fall? 

Leilet Kebebew  8:45  
Yeah, I think so. 

Evan Franulovich  8:49  
You didn't do a summer session? 

Leilet Kebebew  8:54  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  8:55  
Okay, so you got your I-20 and stuff, and then you need to get your visa. You're easy over your passport holder. You're now in Nigeria. 

Leilet Kebebew  8:58  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  9:03  
Where did you do your visa?

Leilet Kebebew  9:14  
In Nigeria. So I got to Nigeria in January 24 which means I had to also get a Nigerian ID. 

Evan Franulovich  9:21  
Oh. 

Leilet Kebebew  9:22  
That's one of the reasons I ended up coming here for winter quarter instead of fall, because I couldn't apply for my visa before I had the Nigerian ID.

Evan Franulovich  9:31  
Gotcha. 

Leilet Kebebew  9:32  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  9:33  
Interesting. Did you have to defer? In other words, you were set to begin in the fall, but you couldn't get there in time. So did you have to tell admission to wait.

Leilet Kebebew  9:44  
No, I just applied for winter, because I knew I wasn't going to be there for fall.

Evan Franulovich  9:50  
So you had to go to Lagos, or did you go to Abuja?

Leilet Kebebew  9:54  
Oh, it wasn't Abuja, yeah. So I applied, but they gave me a three months waiting time. Yeah, three months, yeah.

Evan Franulovich  10:03  
Well, plan ahead, if you're in Nigeria.

Leilet Kebebew  10:05  
Yeah, I had mine in November, I think. 

Evan Franulovich  10:09  
That's cool. And it's okay for you to do your visa interview there, they didn't say to you, 'No, you're gonna have to go back to Addis.'

Leilet Kebebew  10:17  
Oh, yeah, I was worried that would be the case. But once I got my Nigerian ID, they were like, 'You're good to go.' You have the Nigerian visa, the Nigerian ID.

Evan Franulovich  10:27  
Before you went to your interview, did you spend any time with EducationUSA? 

Leilet Kebebew  10:33  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  10:34  
You didn't? 

Leilet Kebebew  10:35  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  10:35  
Are you aware of EducationUSA? 

Leilet Kebebew  10:37  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  10:37  
So those of you who are out there listening, we highly recommend that you work with EducationUSA, even if you have like an agent, or you feel like you know what's going on. They have their offices all over the world. It's free. You have lots of services, equipment, libraries, and you can just get a sense for the visa process you can do research there. Hear people talk about being a student. 

Leilet Kebebew  11:05  
It's a good support system. 

Evan Franulovich  11:10  
It's free, so just go take advantage. It's usually in the capitals. I think Nigeria, there are nine different offices or something like that. There's quite a few. 

Leilet Kebebew  11:21  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  11:21  
Well, that's really cool. So you went to the embassy after three months for your visa interview. Tell us what that was like. There's a lot of people there, I'm guessing.

Leilet Kebebew  11:33  
Yeah, I had the morning shift, and I thought I was early, but I got there and it was full. It was packed. Yeah, it was terrible. I was having a panic attack three times.

Evan Franulovich  11:44  
Did you have to be there by a certain time, or you'd lose your spot. 

Leilet Kebebew  11:47  
Yeah, they were like, 'This time you're here.' So I think it was eight in the morning... 

Evan Franulovich  11:54  
Oh, early. 

Leilet Kebebew  11:55  
...to be there.

Evan Franulovich  11:56  
Wow. Okay, so you get in line, you get up to the person doing the interview.

Leilet Kebebew  12:02  
And while I was waiting, I could hear the lady that was doing the interviews, I guess, rejecting people. And I was like, 'Yeah, that's me. That's about to be me.' 

Evan Franulovich  12:14  
Over and over. Nobody was getting their visa? 

Leilet Kebebew  12:17  
I mean, I don't think I was focusing on the ones who got it.

Evan Franulovich  12:25  
What kind of questions did she ask?

Leilet Kebebew  12:27  
Yeah. She was just like, 'Where did you do your education? What schools did you go to?' It was simple questions, simpler than I thought. And she was like, 'Okay, so, where does your father work?' Can you afford to go there and stuff like that?' I had financial proofs, and that was it. 

Evan Franulovich  12:46  
That was it?

Leilet Kebebew  12:48  
'You will get your visa in three to four business days.' 

Evan Franulovich  12:51  
Wow. 

Leilet Kebebew  12:52  
Are you sure? 

Evan Franulovich  12:54  
That's awesome. 

Leilet Kebebew  12:55  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  12:57  
So you're probably pretty happy as you were leaving the office.

Leilet Kebebew  12:59  
Oh, yeah. My dad was waiting outside, and I think for a second he also wasn't expecting the yes.

Evan Franulovich  13:06  
Wow, that's pretty cool. So then you had how much time between then and when you get on an airplane?

Leilet Kebebew  13:15  
So I got it in November, and then I got here December. 

Evan Franulovich  13:18  
How do you spend that month or so preparing?

Leilet Kebebew  13:25  
I guess, saying goodbye to family. 

Evan Franulovich  13:29  
Saying goodbye to them. 

Leilet Kebebew  13:30  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  13:30  
Well, one thing we have when you get accepted here we have what's called a pre arrival checklist. Did you go through that pre arrival checklist? 

Leilet Kebebew  13:35  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  13:39  
Was there anything on there that you felt like was particularly helpful to you?

Leilet Kebebew  13:45  
I think, just the idea of the courses I was taking, I was contacting my advisor, like 'What classes will I be taking?' Because I think when you get here, you're expected to take English and Math. 

Evan Franulovich  13:56  
Right. 

Leilet Kebebew  13:56  
So, a total of 12 credits or something. I wanted to do more, so I contacted my advisor and told her that I wanted to do more. She was like, "Are you sure?" That process helped. I got to know what I was doing beforehand. So that was helpful.

Evan Franulovich  14:16  
Yeah, one of the things you fill out on that pre-arrival checklist is an intent to enroll form. Remember doing that? 

Leilet Kebebew  14:23  
An intent to? No.

Evan Franulovich  14:26  
Do it if you're out there. The intent to enroll form kind of communicates to your advisors to get you registered for classes. Sometimes that first quarter, it's a little bit overwhelming, so they get you into your classes. But you said you were communicating with your advisor. 

Leilet Kebebew  14:43  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  14:44  
How did you do that? 

Leilet Kebebew  14:45  
Through email. 

Evan Franulovich  14:46  
Just email. 

Leilet Kebebew  14:46  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  14:47  
No Zoom calls. 

Leilet Kebebew  14:48  
Oh, no. 

Evan Franulovich  14:48  
Send them a message saying 'This is what I want to do.' 

Leilet Kebebew  14:51  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  14:51  
Very cool. Who's your advisor?

Leilet Kebebew  14:54  
Emily.

Evan Franulovich  14:56  
That's really great. So they were able to communicate with you via email get you into more classes. 

Leilet Kebebew  15:09  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  15:09  
Now 12 is a big load. So how many credits did you take that fall quarter? 

Leilet Kebebew  15:14  
I ended up taking 17. 

Evan Franulovich  15:16  
Oh my gosh.

Leilet Kebebew  15:15  
I did one more course. 

Evan Franulovich  15:17  
And it wasn't a problem? 

Leilet Kebebew  15:19  
It was not at all. I mean, you must be as an African student, we know how difficult it is. 

Evan Franulovich  15:25  
Clearly. 

Leilet Kebebew  15:26  
Yeah, so it actually gets much, much easier here.

Evan Franulovich  15:31  
Yeah, that's good. And your second quarter, it's the same way?

Leilet Kebebew  15:37  
I take the maximum now. 

Evan Franulovich  15:39  
Right. 

Leilet Kebebew  15:39  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  15:39  
Because you want to get done sooner? 

Leilet Kebebew  15:41  
Yeah, I want to make up for the full quarter I missed out.

Evan Franulovich  15:47  
Well, now it's summer. You are taking summer off, or are you doing classes? 

Leilet Kebebew  15:51  
I'm taking summer off, but I'm doing one class online. 

Evan Franulovich  15:54  
Oh, okay.

Leilet Kebebew  15:55  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  15:55  
And how did you sign up for your one online class?

Leilet Kebebew  15:59  
I think it was the same process as the others, using ctcLink. 

Evan Franulovich  16:03  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  16:04  
But then first I had to get the quarter off approved.

Evan Franulovich  16:07  
Gotcha. 

Leilet Kebebew  16:07  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  16:07  
And so your online class is pretty chill? 

Leilet Kebebew  16:10  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  16:10  
So what are you doing with your spare time? 

Leilet Kebebew  16:12  
I mean, I just started as I told you. I was in the festival for most of it. 

Evan Franulovich  16:18  
You guys didn't hear that conversation. This is being recorded on the eighth of July. So this last weekend was the United States Independence Day, which means it's a longer holiday for us. The fourth is a national holiday, but you spent it not so much celebrating the independence of the US. What did you do? 

Leilet Kebebew  16:38  
I think Ethiopians might know it. It's an Ethiopian festival, soccer festival. In fact, July 4 for us was Ethiopian day. 

Evan Franulovich  16:48  
Cool. You mean celebrating the country of Ethiopia? 

Leilet Kebebew  16:52  
Yeah, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  16:53  
Is that normally on the Fourth of July?

Leilet Kebebew  16:55  
I think they made it just here in the US, because it's already a holiday. So it would make sense to bring the Ethiopians together on the same day, we don't need another day off.

Evan Franulovich  17:10  
That's cool. So one of the things about Seattle, we have a big Ethiopian community. 

Leilet Kebebew  17:17  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  17:18  
Lots of people. 

Leilet Kebebew  17:19  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  17:19  
If you travel down Highway 99 some of the signs are in Amharic. So you'll see signs in Amharic. That's how many Ethiopians are here.

Leilet Kebebew  17:30  
I've been to other countries, this might be the most I felt connected to Ethiopia. 

Evan Franulovich  17:35  
Really? 

Leilet Kebebew  17:36  
Even other African countries are not as Ethiopian as here. I don't think I've went to this much of church and stuff, everything involved, yes, that's what I've been in here.

Evan Franulovich  17:50  
Yeah, yeah. I used to live in Edmonds, and just down the street from where I live, there is an Ethiopian church. And if you drive by on weekends, people wear their more traditional dress. 

Leilet Kebebew  18:02  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  18:02  
It's very cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  18:04  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  18:04  
So you feel at home. That's awesome. 

Leilet Kebebew  18:08  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  18:09  
When you first got here, there must have been a little bit of culture shock. I mean, you see America in the movies and you hear about it, you get this expectation of what it must be like. 

Leilet Kebebew  18:21  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  18:22  
How was that panned out for you? What is the reality versus what you were expecting?

Leilet Kebebew  18:26  
I don't know what I was expecting, but I was expecting something out of the world. 

Evan Franulovich  18:33  
Yeah? 

Leilet Kebebew  18:34  
Because you think that the rest of the world is normal, and the US is something else. 

Evan Franulovich  18:42  
Yeah, okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  18:42  
It was the same, I guess. Maybe the people are different here, you get to meet a diverse group of people. 

Evan Franulovich  18:58  
For sure.

Leilet Kebebew  19:00  
Every day is a different group of people.

Evan Franulovich  19:02  
Especially in Seattle. Seattle is in the West Coast, so we're already a little more liberal politically. We have a very cosmopolitan population here in Seattle. So we have a large Ethiopian community, but we also have other African communities, Latin American communities, Asian communities.

Leilet Kebebew  19:02  
So it's kind of like a mix of the world here. 

Evan Franulovich  19:15  
For sure. 

Leilet Kebebew  19:18  
I was not expecting that.

Evan Franulovich  19:26  
Well, I'm glad you found that. 

Leilet Kebebew  19:30  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  19:31  
With that mix, comes really good food. And we all know how... I mean, if you don't know, you should go find out, how good the food is in Ethiopia. 

Leilet Kebebew  19:41  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  19:42  
Have you found really reliable restaurants in Seattle?

Leilet Kebebew  19:46  
I don't go out a lot for Ethiopian food because I have it at home. 

Evan Franulovich  19:51  
That's right. 

Leilet Kebebew  19:51  
I live with a family friend, so they have it there a lot, but I've heard a lot of restaurants here are good. I've heard people literally argue which one is the best. So there is a lot to choose from.

Evan Franulovich  20:05  
I know there's a lot of Ethiopian restaurants out by where I was living. So you won't be lonely.

Leilet Kebebew  20:12  
Oh, for sure. I have friends who buy the injara here instead of making it.

Evan Franulovich  20:19  
So you live with family. So when you first arrived, you didn't have to look for a place? You just had a place to go right away? 

Leilet Kebebew  20:27  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  20:27  
You live a little far away, right? 

Leilet Kebebew  20:29  
Yeah, SeaTac. 

Evan Franulovich  20:31  
So SeaTac is south part of Seattle by the airport. 

Leilet Kebebew  20:34  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  20:35  
So you take the link into Central? 

Leilet Kebebew  20:38  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  20:38  
Every day? 

Leilet Kebebew  20:39  
Every day. 

Evan Franulovich  20:39  
Wow. 

Leilet Kebebew  20:40  
So there is actually a five minute bus I have to use from my place to the link, and then I take the link here. 

Evan Franulovich  20:48  
How long does it take? 

Leilet Kebebew  20:50  
An hour. 

Evan Franulovich  20:51  
It's an hour. 

Leilet Kebebew  20:54  
Winter was the worst. 

Evan Franulovich  20:55  
Right. 

Leilet Kebebew  20:56  
Because my class was early in the morning, and I had to wake up at six and it's dark out. 

Evan Franulovich  21:05  
Winter gets dark. 

Leilet Kebebew  21:06  
Yeah, that was the shock actually. Now during summer, it doesn't get dark at all. 

Evan Franulovich  21:13  
Nine, still sun out. 

Evan Franulovich  21:15  
3:45 in the morning, it's starting to get light again. 

Leilet Kebebew  21:18  
Exactly. And then winter is the exact opposite.

Evan Franulovich  21:24  
But if you are that far south, did you consider maybe going to South Seattle College? Because we have three campuses and the closest campus to SeaTac would be South Seattle. 

Leilet Kebebew  21:35  
It would but I liked the idea of being in central downtown. For me, I like the place, it's convenient. South sounds a bit outside. 

Evan Franulovich  21:48  
It is up in the neighborhood. 

Leilet Kebebew  21:50  
Yeah, it's more of like a campus, I think. 

Evan Franulovich  21:53  
Right, it's more traditional. 

Leilet Kebebew  21:54  
Yeah, while here it's in the middle of the city. I like that more. And it sounds like it's the center.

Evan Franulovich  21:54  
Do you take advantage of us being in the middle city? Do you go to clubs, cafes, all that good stuff?

Leilet Kebebew  22:10  
Yeah, 100%. When I have a lot of work, I just walk to the waterfront from here and I just sit there. 

Evan Franulovich  22:21  
Yeah, It's cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  22:22  
yeah.

Evan Franulovich  22:23  
So one of the things Seattle is famous for is coffee. You know, Starbucks grew up here. But one of the things Ethiopia is famous for is coffee. How do you find the coffee in Seattle? Do you drink coffee? 

Leilet Kebebew  22:37  
I do, of course. 

Evan Franulovich  22:39  
Well, I gotta assume.

Leilet Kebebew  22:41  
Yeah, I do drink coffee, and I love that we have a lot of options here. I mean, Ethiopian coffee is still my favorite. Nothing is gonna beat that. 

Evan Franulovich  22:51  
You can find Ethiopian coffee pretty easy. 

Leilet Kebebew  22:53  
Yeah, for sure. 

Evan Franulovich  22:54  
Yeah, cool. Can you do the ceremony? Do you know how to do the coffee ceremony?

Leilet Kebebew  23:00  
I mean, I'd like to think so. 

Evan Franulovich  23:01  
You'd like to think so. 

Leilet Kebebew  23:02  
Yeah, my mom wouldn't agree.

Evan Franulovich  23:04  
She wouldn't agree. Well, my first exposure to the coffee ceremony for Ethiopia was, I went to Epcot Center in Florida, Disney World. And a lot of different countries have these venues where they kind of introduce people to their culture, they do a coffee ceremony. That was my very first exposure. It was really cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  23:25  
Yeah, it's my favorite part, especially when I'm back visiting home. I just like that ceremony of everybody sitting Yes, like it's a normal day.

Evan Franulovich  23:27  
When we go to an international school, when I'm in indies, and they always do a coffee ceremony for us before the fair starts. 

Leilet Kebebew  23:44  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  23:44  
So it's really cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  23:45  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  23:45  
It's really great. 

Leilet Kebebew  23:47  
Yep. 

Evan Franulovich  23:48  
Do you know Shun from North Seattle College? 

Leilet Kebebew  23:51  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  23:51  
He said, 'Hey, when you're in Addis, will you buy this particular brand of coffee for me?' Which I'd never heard of. So when I was there, I had to go to this special coffee place.

Leilet Kebebew  24:01  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:03  
So how else do you spend your free time? You go to the coffee shops, you you walk around downtown. Do you have other hobbies that you have? You belong to clubs? 

Leilet Kebebew  24:14  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:16  
Okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  24:15  
You met Diara. She has taught for the dance club. 

Evan Franulovich  24:24  
She's from Switzerland, by the way. 

Leilet Kebebew  24:28  
Yeah, and I've been joining her club. And yeah, we've been practicing.

Evan Franulovich  24:34  
How many people are in the club? 

Leilet Kebebew  24:35  
It depends, it various every week. But we had a performance for Juneteenth. 

Evan Franulovich  24:41  
What?!

Leilet Kebebew  24:41  
In Broadway.

Evan Franulovich  24:42  
I'm sorry I missed that. So you know, Halloween is coming up in October? 

Leilet Kebebew  24:49  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  24:50  
And have you been to that party? 

Leilet Kebebew  24:53  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  24:54  
So a lot of people do dance. 

Leilet Kebebew  24:57  
Oh.

Evan Franulovich  24:58  
And last year, they had kind of a dance group do some stuff. 

Leilet Kebebew  25:02  
I will let her know. 

Evan Franulovich  25:03  
What kind of dance is it? 

Leilet Kebebew  25:06  
It depends on the event, and she tries to do like from all around the world, she's a great dancer.

Evan Franulovich  25:17  
She didn't mention being a dancer. I don't remember. Yeah, that's really cool. But it's not like hip hop dancing? 

Leilet Kebebew  25:27  
Oh, we did hip hop as well, just for practice. But for the performance, it was different. 

Evan Franulovich  25:35  
So you were here in the winter. Did you have time to apply for the Foundation Scholarship?

Leilet Kebebew  25:43  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  25:44  
And?

Leilet Kebebew  25:45  
I didn't get it. 

Evan Franulovich  25:46  
Oh, so sad. But don't forget, you can apply every year. So this next coming January, try again. 

Leilet Kebebew  25:54  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  25:55  
Have you applied for Phi Theta Kappa? 

Leilet Kebebew  25:57  
Yes. 

Evan Franulovich  25:58  
Oh, good. Did you get in? 

Leilet Kebebew  25:59  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  26:00  
And they have their own scholarships, I believe as well.

Leilet Kebebew  26:03  
Yeah, but I haven't heard any. I think this just more of a support system, right? 

Evan Franulovich  26:08  
Gotcha. 

Leilet Kebebew  26:08  
And then there's scholarships you can apply to within that website.

Evan Franulovich  26:14  
Cool. And any other clubs you've been involved with, or student leadership?

Leilet Kebebew  26:21  
I mean, I am part of the African Associates Club. 

Evan Franulovich  26:24  
Nice. 

Leilet Kebebew  26:25  
Another great club we have here.

Evan Franulovich  26:28  
Is that the club that was started by Telvin? Do you know Telvin Kameta? He's from Mombasa, Kenya.

Leilet Kebebew  26:33  
Oh, I don't know who started it.

Evan Franulovich  26:35  
What do you guys do?

Leilet Kebebew  26:39  
Recently, we had Africa day. We organized that, it was a good event, I think. We did that, yeah,

Evan Franulovich  26:48  
What'd you do in the event? Did you have food? 

Leilet Kebebew  26:51  
You weren't here, but it was a great day. 

Evan Franulovich  26:56  
Yeah. 

Leilet Kebebew  26:57  
We brought some Jollof rice. And we had a fashion show. 

Evan Franulovich  27:04  
Cool. Now Jollof rice is not very east African. That's more Nigeria, right? So you can make Jollof rice for you?

Leilet Kebebew  27:14  
No, I'm not good at cooking at all. 

Evan Franulovich  27:18  
Not at all? 

Leilet Kebebew  27:20  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  27:23  
Well, you can practice and then get better. 

Leilet Kebebew  27:25  
Hopefully. 

Evan Franulovich  27:26  
The person that you live with, do they cook?

Leilet Kebebew  27:30  
Yeah, they're a family. I got lucky. 

Evan Franulovich  27:35  
You did get lucky. 

Leilet Kebebew  27:36  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  27:36  
Okay, well, let's talk about your business classes. So you've been taking some of the core classes at the beginning of your degree plan or whatever. What are those been like?

Leilet Kebebew  27:47  
Um, so I think I had to do a lot more than I expected, especially with math. I didn't think I would need to do calculus. 

Evan Franulovich  27:54  
Interesting. 

Leilet Kebebew  27:56  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  27:57  
I wouldn't think in business that would be that many statistics, though?

Leilet Kebebew  28:01  
Yeah, I'm also gonna be doing statistics.

Evan Franulovich  28:04  
I'm sorry. Yeah, I hear it's torture.

Leilet Kebebew  28:06  
In the incoming fall quarter, I'm doing like three different maths. Be prepared. Business is not just business. 

Evan Franulovich  28:15  
Wow.

Leilet Kebebew  28:16  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  28:16  
So a lot of math. But what about the business courses themselves? Like business law?

Leilet Kebebew  28:21  
Yeah, I just did business law. We had a great teacher. She's a sports lawyer herself. 

Evan Franulovich  28:26  
Oh. 

Leilet Kebebew  28:27  
She works for the Seattle Seahawks.

Evan Franulovich  28:30  
I didn't know we had such a famous professor. 

Leilet Kebebew  28:32  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  28:33  
What's her name? I dont wanna put her on the spot. 

Leilet Kebebew  28:35  
It was an online class. 

Evan Franulovich  28:41  
It was an online class? 

Leilet Kebebew  28:45  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  28:45  
Okay. So you have to take so many in-person or hybrid classes. About how many online versus in-person do you take?

Leilet Kebebew  28:58  
In a quarter, I do four classes in total, and I try to do only one online. 

Evan Franulovich  29:02  
Oh, cool. 

Leilet Kebebew  29:03  
So three in-person.

Evan Franulovich  29:04  
And you haven't had any problem finding classes to take in-person?

Leilet Kebebew  29:08  
Yeah, it's difficult to manage classes because they end up clashing, especially with business, since I'm doing different types of maths, they usually end up being on the same time. That's why I put in the online in there to manage the clash. So yeah, I have to plan ahead, which is great, because Emily usually helps me ahead of the quarter. We get together and we're like, 'Yeah, let's put it in order where it doesn't clash.' 

Evan Franulovich  29:39  
And getting in to see her, is that problematic? 

Leilet Kebebew  29:44  
Sorry? 

Evan Franulovich  29:44  
To get an appointment to go see her? 

Leilet Kebebew  29:46  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  29:47  
Is it problematic?

Leilet Kebebew  29:49  
She's very busy. 

Evan Franulovich  29:49  
She's very busy. 

Leilet Kebebew  29:50  
Yeah, appointments usually take two-three weeks.

Evan Franulovich  30:09  
Plan ahead. So when I'm in Ethiopia, a lot of the students that are there ask me about scholarships, but they also asked me about working on campus. You now have a job? 

Leilet Kebebew  30:22  
Yes, I do. 

Evan Franulovich  30:22  
So how long did it take you? I mean, did you know you wanted a job when you first got here?

Leilet Kebebew  30:29  
No, that was definitely the plan for me, especially after I got here and during orientation, I got to meet the international ambassadors. And I was like, that's the job. 

Evan Franulovich  30:40  
It's a great job. 

Leilet Kebebew  30:41  
Yeah, yeah.

Evan Franulovich  30:42  
It's cool. And they just recently had five openings, so keep checking.

Leilet Kebebew  30:49  
For every campus, yeah. And I'm pretty sure there is more to come.

Evan Franulovich  30:54  
So when you applied for it, you had to go through a whole interview process? 

Leilet Kebebew  31:00  
It was an online application, and then they called us in for a group interview. 

Evan Franulovich  31:06  
Oh, okay. 

Leilet Kebebew  31:07  
And then once we passed that, we had a second interview. 

Evan Franulovich  31:11  
Individual? 

Leilet Kebebew  31:13  
Yeah, individual.

Evan Franulovich  31:14  
Did they make you do anything, or was it just questions?

Leilet Kebebew  31:16  
For the group one, they gave us a scenario like plan an event. This is your budget and this is your group. We have 20 minutes to plan, 20 minutes to present. 

Evan Franulovich  31:29  
So you all work together? 

Leilet Kebebew  31:30  
Yeah, like four in a team. 

Evan Franulovich  31:32  
That's really cool. How many teams are there? 

Leilet Kebebew  31:35  
I think there was two of us, but I think they had different days for the interviews. In fact, the other person that got it with me was on my team. Yeah, we were in the same team. 

Evan Franulovich  31:47  
What was the event you guys planned?

Leilet Kebebew  31:51  
I think it was like an international day for all around the world, here on campus, which is very common thing we do. So it would be easier to plan as well.

Evan Franulovich  32:03  
So you guys already have your summer events planned out?

Leilet Kebebew  32:06  
Yeah, I haven't started working yet because I need to still do my social security number and the HR process, right? So I haven't started yet. 

Evan Franulovich  32:16  
But you applied for your social security card? 

Leilet Kebebew  32:19  
Yeah, I should have my interview next week. 

Evan Franulovich  32:21  
They interview you for it? 

Leilet Kebebew  32:23  
Well, I have to make an appointment, which I'm assuming it's for an interview, right?

Evan Franulovich  32:28  
I don't think they interview you. I think you just go down and pick it up. Oh, I could be totally wrong. Yeah, I haven't had to get a social card since I was a baby.

Leilet Kebebew  32:40  
I'll let you know. Yeah, next week, Tuesday. 

Evan Franulovich  32:42  
So what is your first official day as an international ambassador?

Leilet Kebebew  32:46  
So they said, as soon as possible, once I get my number, I do the HR process.

Evan Franulovich  32:53  
She was at the orientation. 

Leilet Kebebew  32:56  
I was. 

Evan Franulovich  32:56  
What'd you think?

Leilet Kebebew  32:58  
Oh, I'm excited. This is the type of work I love to do.

Evan Franulovich  33:04  
Well, since you have been working at an orientation already, or volunteered in this case. 

Leilet Kebebew  33:09  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  33:10  
Can you tell students that are going to be coming to Seattle Colleges what they can expect at orientation?

Leilet Kebebew  33:16  
I think they can expect to know everything. Every department was coming down telling us about themselves, everything was broken down into pieces, sections, and then the campus store was great. Even I didn't know the campus as well.

Evan Franulovich  33:31  
It's good to go. 

Leilet Kebebew  33:32  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  33:33  
And they'll do it at all three camps, they do Tuesday at Central. Wednesday at North. Did you go to all three campuses? 

Leilet Kebebew  33:45  
No, I just did Central. I still haven't been to South. I was at North for one day. 

Evan Franulovich  33:54  
That's cool. When you get here, definitely go check out all three campuses which one fits best for you. 

Leilet Kebebew  34:02  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  34:03  
But they also feed you at orientation?

Leilet Kebebew  34:06  
Oh, yeah, Mediterranean, which is also halal. There are snacks too.

Evan Franulovich  34:15  
It's good food. They have it catered, so it's legit food. Used to be that we'd get pizza. And we did that for so long, it's like, 'Okay, we need to do something else.' 

Leilet Kebebew  34:24  
Definitely.

Evan Franulovich  34:25  
This has definitely been a nice change of pace for us. 

Leilet Kebebew  34:29  
We get pizza at every event, so it's good to have a change.

Evan Franulovich  34:36  
You'll also get to network with your fellow students. Some students look for roommates, or they just want to meet people in their class, or maybe other students from their region. 

Leilet Kebebew  34:45  
Yeah, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  34:45  
That's a nice way. Were there any other students, any new students from Ethiopia? 

Leilet Kebebew  34:50  
No.

Evan Franulovich  34:52  
 I don't know what happened at South, but yeah, I know at North, and Central.

Leilet Kebebew  34:56  
And I feel like most of the Ethiopian students are not International. They're domestic students. And orientation we had was for international students.

Evan Franulovich  35:08  
Ethiopia is one of our big senders from the region. So we do have quite a few Ethiopian international students. 

Leilet Kebebew  35:14  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  35:15  
But they are spread out, so you may not see them. 

Leilet Kebebew  35:18  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  35:19  
But if I see them, I'll introduce you, if you want.

Leilet Kebebew  35:21  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  35:21  
Have you met any others?

Leilet Kebebew  35:23  
Yeah, I've met one other. But apart from that, the ones I've met are domestic.

Evan Franulovich  35:28  
Because we've had so many people immigrate to the US. Yeah, we have a lot that are here domestically, yeah? So you'll see them walking around. 

Leilet Kebebew  35:36  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  35:37  
It's really cool. Well, that's really great. What is your plan after you graduate from Seattle Colleges?

Leilet Kebebew  35:45  
Hopefully university. I would like to transfer into a university. In fact, I think it was last week with we decided to do the Western Washington tour. 

Evan Franulovich  35:57  
It's a cool school. 

Leilet Kebebew  35:59  
It is. I like it.

Evan Franulovich  36:01  
When you say we toured it. Who's that? 

Leilet Kebebew  36:03  
Me and Diara. 

Evan Franulovich  36:04  
Oh, you went up there together? 

Leilet Kebebew  36:06  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  36:07  
Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, man, if I'd known, I could have put you in touch. Did you meet with their international programs department?

Leilet Kebebew  36:13  
No.

Evan Franulovich  36:14  
I did a podcast with Western Washington University. 

Leilet Kebebew  36:19  
Oh. 

Evan Franulovich  36:19  
So if you're curious about it. You can watch that interview. 

Leilet Kebebew  36:22  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  36:22  
I tried to interview a number of different universities. I've done Seattle Pacific, Seattle University, University of Washington, University of Oregon, Menlo College. So check out all of those. 

Leilet Kebebew  36:33  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  36:33  
There's a lot of choices out there. 

Leilet Kebebew  36:35  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  36:35  
But that one, you are looking at pretty seriously?

Leilet Kebebew  36:39  
I mean, UDub is the goal, but financially and stuff, you gotta think about backup plans and everything. 

Evan Franulovich  36:48  
And for those of you who are out there, if you're already a current student, or you're thinking about it, talk to these schools ahead of time like you're doing, go look at their campuses if they're nearby. Talk to the International Programs people, because a lot of times they'll offer transfer scholarships. So if you do well here, they'll actually give you money to come to their school. You're already in the country, you're already established. So a lot of times they'll give you that. So ask them straight up, do you offer transferships? And just so you know, in winter, we have transfer fairs. Did you happen to go to any of those? 

Leilet Kebebew  37:26  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  37:28  
40 universities come set up tables here, and you can go around and talk. 

Leilet Kebebew  37:33  
Yeah, that's actually where we initially met the Western Washington lady. And then she was telling us about the courses and everything. And we're like, 'Oh yeah, let's check it out.'

Evan Franulovich  37:44  
Let's go check it out. Bellingham is a really cool city. It's about an hour and a half, two hours from here. 

Leilet Kebebew  37:51  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  37:51  
It's a little smaller than Seattle, but very pretty, super close to Canada. 

Leilet Kebebew  37:58  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  37:59  
Have you been to Canada?

Leilet Kebebew  38:00  
I haven't.

Evan Franulovich  38:01  
You probably have to get a visa for it, but you could. 

Leilet Kebebew  38:03  
Yeah, I'd like to.

Evan Franulovich  38:05  
What about within the US? Have you traveled around other parts of the US yet?

Leilet Kebebew  38:08  
I've only been to Dallas, or Texas, I guess because I've also been to Austin and Houston. 

Evan Franulovich  38:14  
What'd you go to Texas for? 

Leilet Kebebew  38:15  
I have a family there. 

Evan Franulovich  38:17  
So you flew from here down? 

Leilet Kebebew  38:19  
Yeah, when I got here, I went there for Christmas. 

Evan Franulovich  38:25  
What did you think of Texas? 

Leilet Kebebew  38:28  
It's big. The roads are endless. I don't know if I like it, because you're just going and going and going, from one place to another. There's a lot of driving. 

Evan Franulovich  38:40  
It's a lot.

Leilet Kebebew  38:41  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  38:41  
I used to live in Texas, and we have family in Tucson, Arizona, so we would drive. And it just seemed like the state never ended. 

Leilet Kebebew  38:50  
Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that every day. 

Evan Franulovich  38:54  
It's also hot there. 

Leilet Kebebew  38:57  
My brother is there in Oklahoma, so hot.

Evan Franulovich  39:03  
Yeah, Seattle is lovely this time of year.

Leilet Kebebew  39:07  
Yeah, I actually like it. Before I got here, they're like, 'Oh the rain.' But it's not that bad. Yeah, it's really not bad at all. 

Evan Franulovich  39:16  
I mean, it does get wet in the winter, but not horrible. 

Leilet Kebebew  39:21  
Yeah, you can manage it's better this way.

Evan Franulovich  39:24  
Definitely not as wet as say, New England or Belgium.

Leilet Kebebew  39:29  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  39:30  
Yeah, it's not bad. You can handle it. 

Leilet Kebebew  39:33  
You can, definitely. 

Evan Franulovich  39:34  
Is there something you wish you had packed in your suitcase before you got here?

Leilet Kebebew  39:39  
I don't think I was prepared enough for winter. 

Evan Franulovich  39:41  
Oh, you weren't. So you had to go shopping. 

Leilet Kebebew  39:44  
Yeah, I needed those jackets, especially in the winter. Also the fact that it's unexpected, the rain just comes at any time of the day. 

Evan Franulovich  39:56  
It's true. 

Leilet Kebebew  39:56  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  39:57  
But then it'll just stop and it'll be gray. 

Leilet Kebebew  39:59  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  39:59  
And then I'll ring a little bit more then stop. 

Leilet Kebebew  40:02  
Yeah, it's unexpected, you gotta plan ahead.

Evan Franulovich  40:06  
But the darkness she mentioned earlier definitely is a factor. It'll start getting dark earlier and earlier, and then it'll get light later and later, but then you cross that threshold and then it starts lengthening out again, yeah? 

Leilet Kebebew  40:21  
Here we are, no darkness. 

Evan Franulovich  40:24  
Yeah, I go to bed at night and it's light.

Leilet Kebebew  40:28  
That is true. 

Evan Franulovich  40:29  
Sometimes stuff fall asleep.

Leilet Kebebew  40:31  
It is yeah, especially waking up at random times, like four or five, and then you're like, 'Oh, it's bright. I can't go back to sleep.'

Evan Franulovich  40:46  
You hear that? It's Trivia time! This is the part of the show where we ask you five trivia questions. If you get them all right, you get on a wall of fame. 

Leilet Kebebew  40:50  
Oh. 

Evan Franulovich  40:51  
If you get any wrong, you'll cry yourself to sleep tonight. 

Leilet Kebebew  40:53  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  40:54  
All right. Question number one, if you do end up traveling to another country as an international student, like Mexico or Canada. What do you have to do to your I-20 before you travel?

Leilet Kebebew  41:08  
Get it signed by my advisors. 

Evan Franulovich  41:10  
Be sure to get it signed. We want you to get back in the country. 

Leilet Kebebew  41:14  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  41:15  
That would be great.

Leilet Kebebew  41:16  
Second page on your I-20. 

Evan Franulovich  41:17  
No problem. 

Leilet Kebebew  41:19  
Okay.

Evan Franulovich  41:19  
Question number two: You've been hanging around Seattle a little bit, maybe you've noticed that around our city, we have three different national parks, kind of like Yellowstone is a national park. We have three big national parks, one that's a little far, two that are a little closer. Can you name one of those national parks?

Leilet Kebebew  41:36  
National Parks? 

Evan Franulovich  41:38  
Oh, it's a tough question. 

Leilet Kebebew  41:41  
I mean, we just have a lot of parks in every area, there's a park.

Evan Franulovich  41:46  
I'm talking about national parks.

Leilet Kebebew  41:50  
I doubt it.

Evan Franulovich  41:52  
All right, so if you look to the south and east, there's a big mountain that's one of them. Do you know the name of that big mountain? 

Leilet Kebebew  42:01  
Mount Rainier? 

Evan Franulovich  42:02  
Yes, Mount Rainier National Park is one of them. And when you go down by the water, you look across when there's all those mountains over there. 

Leilet Kebebew  42:10  
Uh huh. 

Evan Franulovich  42:10  
Do you know what those are called? 

Leilet Kebebew  42:11  
No. 

Evan Franulovich  42:12  
Those are the Olympics. And then north of here, there's something called North Cascades National Park. So check out those national parks. 

Leilet Kebebew  42:22  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  42:22  
All right. Question number three: This is a tough one. You are in the state of Washington. There are 50 states in the United States, and you see 50 stars on the flag. In each state there's a capital. What is the capital of the state you're in now? 

Leilet Kebebew  42:38  
Is it Olympia?

Evan Franulovich  42:41  
It is Olympia. Nice job. 

Leilet Kebebew  42:44  
I used to think it's Seattle. Apparently it's not. 

Evan Franulovich  42:47  
Yeah, Seattle's the biggest city, but it's not the capital. Yeah, and you can take the train down to Olympia. It's a cute little town. Amtrak is pretty cheap. And grab some your friends. Does Diara have a car? 

Leilet Kebebew  43:00  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  43:01  
Just drive. 

Leilet Kebebew  43:03  
She's my transporter. 

Evan Franulovich  43:04  
What a good friend. 

Leilet Kebebew  43:07  
Oh yeah.

Evan Franulovich  43:09  
Question number four: South of the United States is a whole nother country. What country borders us on the south?

Leilet Kebebew  43:19  
Mexico? 

Evan Franulovich  43:20  
Mexico! Now, do you like Mexican food? 

Leilet Kebebew  43:25  
Yeah, of course. Who doesn't? 

Evan Franulovich  43:26  
Yeah, there's some really great Mexican restaurants in Seattle.

Leilet Kebebew  43:30  
Yeah, food is here, any type of food, we've got it here.

Evan Franulovich  43:35  
Agreed. Okay, final question, what was the last movie you saw in the movie theater?

Leilet Kebebew  43:43  
Oh, it's been a long time.

Evan Franulovich  43:47  
Have you seen one in a movie theater here in the US?

Leilet Kebebew  43:50  
No.

Evan Franulovich  43:51  
You gotta do it. It's cool cultural experience.

Leilet Kebebew  43:55  
I know, I know. 

Evan Franulovich  43:58  
How about Netflix, or something? It doesn't have to be a theater.

Leilet Kebebew  44:04  
Oh, my God. 

Evan Franulovich  44:05  
You're so busy.

Leilet Kebebew  44:07  
I like how this is the most difficult question. The last movie I watched? Let's do series, because it's been a while since I watched a movie. I watch love Island.

Evan Franulovich  44:27  
Breaking your day from academics, you gotta watch Love Island.

Leilet Kebebew  44:30  
It's because it starts during summer. 

Evan Franulovich  44:30  
Well, I just saw F1 in the movie theaters. 

Leilet Kebebew  44:31  
Oh, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  44:32  
If you like race cars, watch Formula One. 

Leilet Kebebew  44:40  
I've been waiting for it. 

Evan Franulovich  44:41  
The story is a little shaky, you know? It's kind of typical, but the race car stuff is really fun. 

Leilet Kebebew  44:42  
Okay. 

Evan Franulovich  44:42  
I know Formula One is more popular outside the United States. 

Leilet Kebebew  44:52  
Oh, yeah. Same thing with soccer, which is, yes, what I spend most of my time doing,

Evan Franulovich  44:58  
But it's growing in popularity here. ear it gets more and more. Yeah, and the World Cup's coming.

Leilet Kebebew  45:06  
One thing I had to learn was calling it soccer. I don't like that. 

Evan Franulovich  45:11  
It's football. 

Leilet Kebebew  45:12  
Football, yeah. Yeah, thank you.

Evan Franulovich  45:14  
Have they been to the World Cup?

Leilet Kebebew  45:18  
 No, they haven't been. 

Evan Franulovich  45:19  
Come on, guys. 

Leilet Kebebew  45:20  
I know!

Evan Franulovich  45:21  
What about the women's team? 

Leilet Kebebew  45:23  
No, not that I know of. We've got a lot to work. We are more of longer run distance. 

Evan Franulovich  45:31  
That's true. 

Leilet Kebebew  45:33  
We run. 

Evan Franulovich  45:34  
You and Kenya.

Leilet Kebebew  45:37  
Yeah.

Evan Franulovich  45:37  
University of Oregon is famous for their track and field down there. They get a lot of runners, I think from Eastern Africa. 

Leilet Kebebew  45:43  
Yeah, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  45:45  
Cool. Well, you did pretty well. You're not on the wall of fame, but great job. When you graduate with your bachelor's degree, we'll re interview you. So we're at the end of the part of the show now where I like to invite you to speak maybe 10 or 20 seconds in your first language. And you're our first guest from Ethiopia. So it's the first time people will have heard your language. So can you tell them what language you're going to speak in? 

Leilet Kebebew  46:22  
Amharic. 

Evan Franulovich  46:23  
All right, so whatever you want, just like 10-20 seconds, whatever you want to say.

Leilet Kebebew  46:19  
Okay. *Leilet message in Amharic.*

Evan Franulovich  46:37  
Tell people why you came to Seattle Colleges.

Leilet Kebebew  46:49  
*Leilet explains why she came to Seattle Colleges in Amharic.*

Evan Franulovich  46:54  
Cool. I love it. That's great. And then the final question, you've been through it now. You're a veteran. You've been here a while, you've gone through the process of applying, getting your visa, all that. What kind of wisdom or experience advice would you give to students back home or back in East Africa in general, if they're thinking about doing the same thing you did?

Leilet Kebebew  47:17  
Yeah, I think I'd say just start somewhere and pray a lot that helps. 

Evan Franulovich  47:24  
Pray is always good.

Leilet Kebebew  47:25  
Yeah, and usually, this is a good place. I don't think you'll be disappointed, because from wherever you're coming from, you're most likely to find your people, or a group of people. It's not like you have to fit in. You will find a place of your own here, so it's not a bad place to be at. So just start somewhere, and hopefully you get it.

Evan Franulovich  47:49  
That's good advice. Yeah, I know when I go to Ethiopia, a lot of the students I talk to, they worry a lot about just paying for school. Did you have any advice anything you would recommend? I knew you applied for the scholarship, but have you heard any other good ideas for him?

Leilet Kebebew  48:12  
Here on campus, I've heard that Project Baldwin gives scholarships to men.

Evan Franulovich  48:25  
There is a female version coming out. 

Leilet Kebebew  48:28  
So that's something to look forward to. 

Evan Franulovich  48:30  
Yes.

Leilet Kebebew  48:30  
Yeah, we have different small projects here on campus that do have support. So just get to know, ask around. Usually that helps. 

Evan Franulovich  48:41  
Yeah, yeah. Good advice. 

Leilet Kebebew  48:43  
But financial, it's best to plan ahead, because it's not something you'd figure out after you get here. It's usually difficult to do. So have a plan.

Evan Franulovich  48:54  
Have a plan. Yeah, planning is really good piece of advice. 

Leilet Kebebew  48:57  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  48:57  
Cool. Well, gosh, it's so great to meet you. 

Leilet Kebebew  49:01  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  49:01  
Thanks so much for coming on the show. Good luck with the rest of your studies. You think another year? 

Leilet Kebebew  49:07  
Yeah, I should be graduating next time this year. 

Evan Franulovich  49:11  
Cool. We will take pictures of you in your cap and gown. Do you plan to walk in the ceremony? 

Leilet Kebebew  49:17  
For sure. 

Evan Franulovich  49:17  
Yeah, it's really fun. Did you go?

Leilet Kebebew  49:22  
Yeah, I was part of the cheer squad. 

Evan Franulovich  49:23  
Oh, you were on the cheer squad. It's really cool. Well, we'll be cheering you next time.

Leilet Kebebew  49:29  
Yeah, I like to be volunteering. It's actually the best thing, you get to volunteer at every event. 

Evan Franulovich  49:36  
Right. 

Leilet Kebebew  49:36  
So just do it. 

Evan Franulovich  49:37  
If you want, we encourage you to get out of your comfort zone. 

Leilet Kebebew  49:42  
Yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  49:42  
That's how you meet people.

Leilet Kebebew  49:43  
Yeah, especially for me, because the job I got is exactly what I wanted, you know? It's events, organization, and stuff like that. So cheering, volunteering, that's the type of stuff I like, and I get it here.

Evan Franulovich  49:59  
Well, guys, thanks so much for joining us. We're here every Wednesday. Please, like, share, subscribe. Tell everybody you know, tell your grandma, tell your dog, everybody we want them to sign up. 

Leilet Kebebew  50:13  
Yeah, yeah. 

Evan Franulovich  50:14  
Thanks again. You have a great summer. See you guys soon. 

Leilet Kebebew  50:20  
Bye!

Evan Franulovich  50:20  
Bye!

Evan Franulovich  50:24  
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