Dr. Eric and Christine Weiss: Exploring the Potential of Stem Cell Therapy in Enhancing the Lives of Individuals with Autism

What if you could unlock the potential of stem cell therapy to improve the lives of those with autism? 
Join us in an enlightening conversation with Dr. Eric Weiss and his wife, Christine, as we journey through their personal encounter with autism, starting from their son's diagnosis in 1995. 
We discuss the challenges, triumphs, and the critical role of finding the right resources and support for autistic individuals.

The conversation takes a riveting turn as we explore the groundbreaking field of stem cell therapy as a potential treatment for autism. 
Hear a powerful testimony from a mother who has witnessed transformative improvements in her son after administering stem cell injections. 
We delve into the science behind this novel treatment, its ability to mitigate brain inflammation, and its promising success rate. 
We also shed light on the safe use of umbilical cord blood, a practice with over six decades of medical endorsement.

As we venture further, we dive into a fascinating discourse on the intersection of autism and stem cell therapy. 
We also reference a book that delves into this subject matter. 
Learn from a mother as she narrates her son's autism journey and the positive impact of stem cell therapy. 
Understand the science behind stem cells, their potential benefits for those who are autistic, and the importance of empathizing and supporting austistic individuals. 
This episode is an illuminating peek into the potential of stem cell therapy to enhance autistic lives, offering a beacon of hope to families wrestling with this challenge.

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Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome to why Not Me the World podcast, hosted by Tony Mantor, broadcasting from Music City, usa, nashville, tennessee. Join us as our guests tell us their stories. Some will make you laugh, some will make you cry. Feel life. People who will inspire and show that you are not alone in this world. Hopefully, you gain more awareness, acceptance and a better understanding for autism around the world. Hi, I'm Tony Mantor. Welcome to why Not Me the World. Today's guest has an autistic son. He and his wife are helping their son with stem cell therapy and others as well. So please welcome Dr Eric Weiss and his wife, christine. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2: 1:08

How are you? Good to see you.

Speaker 1: 1:10

It's great to have you here. You've got so much great information to give. If you could tell us a little bit about your son and how you found out that he's autistic.

Speaker 2: 1:19

Marston is 28 right now. He was born in 1995. Back then there wasn't an early diagnosis a scale that they have right now.

Speaker 3: 1:31

Even a treatment plan.

Speaker 2: 1:33

So I would say we diagnosed the two of us at like 12, 13 months because we have an older son who was advanced. So I could tell that he wasn't making his marks, I could tell that he wasn't the same. I knew there was something wrong. So if he was first I probably wouldn't have known, but he was second.

Speaker 1: 2:00

Well, that's understandable. 1995, autism wasn't as prevalent as it is today. So once you went through the process, you got him diagnosed, found out that he is autistic. How did that affect your family?

Speaker 2: 2:12

Well, it was devastating. It was devastating to both of us. I have a special needs sister who it was an accident that she was. That happened when she was almost two, so I watched my parents go to Boston Children's and our family go through that with my sister. So I'm a mother of a special needs child, I'm a sister and I knew it was going to be devastating to the other siblings and devastating to us.

Speaker 3: 2:47

Sure, that makes sense completely you know the one thing that I thought was difficult for me. I think, just as a man, you try to fix things. That's what we do. And when your kid gets a diagnosis of leukemia, so there's a playbook. You meet with a pediatric oncologist, a pediatric radiation oncologist, and there is a plan. But when you get a diagnosis of autism, there was no plan. Well, you know, maybe speech therapy, or look into it, do some reading. But in 1995, the internet was in its infancy, google was just starting to come on board. So we did have to wander from Boston Children's to Miami Children's, to Philadelphia Children's Hospital, until we kind of developed our own plan. We made a list of what his strengths and weaknesses were, chris was like a research like an.

Speaker 3: 3:40

FBI investigator trying to find out, okay, who's the best with visual perception problem, who's the best with auditory processing problem?

Speaker 1: 3:50

And we patched together a group of experts and came up with a plan and it worked out very well, because he was growing older some of the things that you was implementing to make different changes for him. What did you see? Did it help and did you see any big changes in the development with everything that you had been doing?

Speaker 2: 4:12

I wouldn't say it was a big difference. I would say it was a gradual difference. It's just very slow, gradual uptake. You know it wasn't. He woke up the next day and he could talk. It was a couple words and then we worked on that. So it was difficult as a mother, you want to go to sleep and wake up and your child being miraculously healed. Well, that's not how it is with autism. It's a long, long journey. It's the long play.

Speaker 1: 4:42

Yeah, it can definitely be a tough journey, for sure.

Speaker 3: 4:45

You know, early on, probably to do that normal school. They were just babysitting them. Then we just tried to say how are we going to get our son to live independently, how are we going to get him to be able to interact with people? We hired college kids home from the summer to take them to the mall and show them how to order ice cream, how to go to a movie, how to leave a tip, how to go to a restaurant. We just thought about it as strengths, weaknesses. How do we improve it?

Speaker 1: 5:16

That's a great way to look at it. Everyone has to look at all the options and see what is best for their child. Now, autism is a spectrum. Everyone acts and reacts to different things, completely opposite from another. Did he have any issues with meltdowns while he was growing up?

Speaker 2: 5:34

No, he didn't have any behavioral problems. He's quiet, very quiet. So he never had any meltdowns or he was kind of in his own world more because in a spectrum for him I want to pull him out through the window. He was in his own world. I knew he could understand what I was saying, which was really interesting. I took these circles and they were all different colors. I cut them up paper and they were like too orange, too purple, too green. I threw them on the floor and I gave him one of the circles. I said match this purple circle. And he wasn't talking, maybe a few words with this other purple circle and he would put it down.

Speaker 2: 6:27

And I pick it up and say purple, say purple, and he would just look at me, he would just stare at me. So I knew it was going in, but it wasn't coming off.

Speaker 3: 6:37

No, the expressive language was terrible To the point, like you said, not having meltdown One time he came back from I want to say it was daycare or something he was in we took a shirt off and he had a series of bite marks all down his back and some kid had bit him like six times. Wow, he never cried or ran away, it was like he didn't understand he didn't write, he just.

Speaker 3: 7:01

he knew that he was being hurt, but he couldn't put it all together to either verbalize or hit the kid or run away. It was a sad day in our lives.

Speaker 1: 7:14

Sure, that's. The one thing that parents are always concerned about is the safety of their kids. So as he's grown older and learned more, how has his verbal skills gained? Is he communicating now the way that you hoped that he would?

Speaker 2: 7:29

Yeah, he's amazing, he's amazing.

Speaker 2: 7:33

He's amazing right now and I talk about this in the book I'm a researcher. What are the new therapies? Because there's some snake oil sales now out there, and so I usually will ask her to get me some research papers so I can read and see if this is something that's working. Oh, I was in Target and this woman that I know came up to me and she said, oh, chris, she knew I had an autistic child. And she said, um, my daughter-in-law, who had an autistic son, went to Panama for stem cells. And I said, oh really. And she said, yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 2: 8:09

In my brain I was like Panama, I'm not going to send my kid to Panama, my husband's in the medical field, I'm not going to go to a foreign country. Like in my head, I was doing this whole like bad, good, bad, good. And then I always have this theory, which is probably silly, but to me it works. I'm always like, okay, god, if it's something I really need to pay attention to, I need you to take a two by four and hit me over the head.

Speaker 1: 8:34

Okay, I get that a little drastic, but I get it.

Speaker 2: 8:36

So I thought about it and then I got home, our tech guy from the office sent me this podcast on stem cells, out of the blue, like I literally walked in the door I saw I had a message, I clicked on it and it was a whole thing on Neo Reardon and stem cells and I went oh my God, well, if that isn't the two by four, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1: 9:03

That's definitely a sign.

Speaker 2: 9:04

So then, I took a deep dive, and I just started researching.

Speaker 3: 9:09

Yeah, it's very interesting. Well, first of all, people get confused about stem cells. There is embryonic stem cells, which kind of came up when Bush the younger was the president, and they were taken from fetuses and people were all against them. Fetal stem cells are designed to make a baby. Not much has ever been done with fetal stem cells. They can cause cancers and things like this, but about halfway through the second trimester the baby is really a formed person. All it does is grow, and so it doesn't have fetal stem cells anymore, it has adult stem cells. Adult stem cells are designed to heal the body.

Speaker 3: 9:43

When she came to me and said what about stem cells? I said well, let me figure it out. And so I did a literature search and the paper that really came to the forefront was a paper out of from Duke. And I went to Duke and it turned out that I knew some of the people that wrote the paper and I called them and I said what's up with these stem cells and autism? And they said we're seeing some amazing stuff kids from not talking to talking, kids just completely changing their lives. And I go okay, you signed my kid up. They said no, we're pediatricians, he's 22, can't do it.

Speaker 1: 10:17

So what was your next step after that?

Speaker 3: 10:19

So then I called Panimal and I do believe Dr Reardon is a real life doctor. He's a very well-trained, US trained, smart guy. He's over there just because of some of the things we can't do here with the FPA. Restriction and he seems to you know some great stuff but he doesn't do kids below above 18.

Speaker 1: 10:38

That seems to be an issue not with just stem cells, but with everything here in the US, that once a kid hits 18, he ages out of the system. What was your next step?

Speaker 3: 10:47

So I started looking into it. To make a long story short, they did autopsy studies on kids with autism and these kids had brain inflammation. So for the first time we said, okay, we found something different about the autistic brains. They have brain. They have inflammation in these certain areas. And the follow-up was that they took 25 kids who were living and did spinal taps on them and they had all these neuroinflammatory mediators in their spinal fluid, which is what you would expect if you had inflammation in the brain At the same time. This was happening. We know people that suffer traumatic brain injury Get inflammation, and so the TBI people were looking for the magic bullet on how to turn off brain inflammation. And was it still right? No, was it motrin? No, what they found out was there was a specific cell you know the whole court blood which can turn off brain inflammation.

Speaker 1: 11:45

So what happened from there with the studies?

Speaker 3: 11:47

the guys from Duke said, the TBI guys just said just was income Stunt cell has the ability to turn off brain inflammation. Let's try it. So what happened next? They tried it and they tried it in 2019 and 60% of the Population got significantly better.

Speaker 1: 12:03

Wow, that's big numbers.

Speaker 3: 12:04

I mean crazy stuff like MRIs before and after Showing more connections, showing less inflammation. Their brain waves got more normal. Unfortunately, that was published in 2019, followed by the pandemic, and so there's some more studies that that Duke is working on that should come out shortly. But that's what kicked it off that. That was that there is a very good, solid physiologic data that the whole court blood should help kids with autism.

Speaker 1: 12:34

Wow, that's super interesting. My next question is where's the injection? I have friends of mine that have used stem cell therapy for Parkinson's and it's helped a little bit. I have friends of mine that have had stem cells done for their knee and because the injection goes in the knee and starts rebuilding the knee, I've had another friend of mine that actually had stem cell therapy done for his hairline and it started growing hair. So for autistic people, how would that procedure be done?

Speaker 3: 13:03

Well, these, these cells are great because they're kind of like Seeking missiles and they seek out inflammation. So you just get, it's a simple IV. You start an IV, you infuse them and by their nature they kind of get hung up in the liver, the lung, in the spleen. But starting out about that, the eighth or ninth day they start migrating to the brain and they have the ability to cross the blood brain barrier and they go in and not only turn off inflammation but they turn on restoration.

Speaker 2: 13:35

And it's, and it's the umbilical cord. So this is medical waste. When you we have a baby, they usually throw the imbibial cord away for medical waste. So they save the imbibial cord. They draw out the blood from the imbibial cord. Of course it goes off and gets tested for a bunch of different diseases because we want them to be pure when you give it to someone else.

Speaker 1: 13:59

Sure. So you tried this on your son, and what was the results from this?

Speaker 2: 14:03

It was a game changer for our son.

Speaker 1: 14:05

So what changes did you notice? Dave conversed.

Speaker 2: 14:07

Right, he started asking questions.

Speaker 3: 14:09

He picked up a cell phone and started calling his cousins.

Speaker 2: 14:12

Right, he had stem cells and it doesn't happen this quickly all the time.

Speaker 1: 14:16

So how long did this process take?

Speaker 2: 14:18

He got his stem cells and he slept like 14 hours and I was a wreck because I thought this could be bad. It could be good. We were at a hotel and he and he woke up. We went downstairs and he said when did you and dad know? Where did you meet? Where did you and dad meet? I started getting nervous and I thought remember we met in the lobby. And he goes no, no, no, mom, and this is a kid who talked for function. Where are we going? Never. What?

Speaker 3: 14:49

are we doing tomorrow?

Speaker 2: 14:50

We're talking about you know, never personal conversation about anything. And he said no, mom, when was the first time you and dad met? Tell me about that. And I mean it was Mind-blowing like I just started. I said your brothers have never asked me that. I just started crying and told him the story. And we're sitting at breakfast and he's poured pancakes on his Sierra for syrup on his pancakes, for his whole life gluten-free pancakes. And he looked at the pancake and he said mom, where does syrup come from? Is it a recipe? I never heard him say the word. Or do they make it like this? Does it come from nature, like this? And I was, oh my God. I said well, I'm from New England. I told him how he would go and put the pale on the tree and it was just, it was like someone took a veil and pulled it up and he saw the world in a different light.

Speaker 1: 16:00

Wow, that's amazing. So what was the timeframe from the very first injection to the time that you saw the big change?

Speaker 2: 16:10

It was, we saw it, it was soft stuff overnight, but then he consistently Like that stuff was right away, and then, as he went on, it was more evident that he had critical thinking that he never had before, like he would weigh decisions out, and I never.

Speaker 3: 16:29

He got a driver's license.

Speaker 2: 16:31

Right, he got a driver's license. He drives a car right now, like he's been driving a car since he was 22. I mean, he lives on his own right now and he has a job. I mean, these are things that we never thought would ever happen to him and he continually makes progress. But we've given him stem cells twice a year. We've been giving him stem cells.

Speaker 3: 16:58

These cells are unique in the fact that you would think that they would set up. Everybody thinks, oh, if I give a stem cell, it'll go to a brain, it'll make a new brain cell and that's why it's better. But that's not how these stem cells work. As you know, this is a product from somebody else and so it is a transplant. But you're not getting suppressed, so it has a definite lifespan. So if you look at the original Duke study, these kids got a single dose and they continued to get better for six months, and at six months they plateaued, but they never went back down, and the gains you saw in six months were equivalent to what you usually see in two years with intensive therapy, so it was about a 4x jump in that time, and so this is all new there's never been a study where they've given somebody else stem cells a second or a third dose to see what happens.

Speaker 3: 17:57

We've done that with our son. To make a long story short, we were looking for someplace to get it done. Thomas Loeb, former head of pediatric surgery for St Jude's Children's Hospital. He was on faculty at the University of Illinois, chicago, and they had a study going on, and so Marston went up there and he showed me how to do it. So I did it for my son and we saw great, great progress. And then Chris said it's hard to do this. There's just not enough people doing this.

Speaker 2: 18:29

Right? And I said at the end of your life, are you going to be happy, are you going to be okay with the fact that you've been given this opportunity to help other people, especially moms like me and dads like you? And you didn't take it out. You didn't say I'm going to do this and I'm going to help other people because I know I can do this. I said why don't we just cancel all of our surgeries on Fridays and let's see if we can do this to help other people?

Speaker 1: 19:02

I think that's a great idea. Helping is always good.

Speaker 2: 19:05

I don't want to stand in front of God. You gave me this great thing and you helped my son, but why didn't you help anybody else?

Speaker 1: 19:12

Sure, that makes sense, and I really appreciate that you think that way.

Speaker 3: 19:16

No, and, to be honest, I can relate to other parents because I am a parent, sure, and as I tell people, this isn't my day job. I don't have to make a lot of money doing this. I just have to not lose money. I had to hire a PA and do some other stuff, get some equipment and things like that.

Speaker 1: 19:31

Sure. Are there any studies that show the results of what this does?

Speaker 3: 19:36

The Duke study, only 60% of the kids benefited. There are some studies that are up to 70% of kids. But like you said, it's a spectrum disorder. Some people have chromosomal abnormality, Some people have other stuff. But if it looks like it's inflammation it can really treat that.

Speaker 1: 19:53

I know some would like to have a higher rate of success, but 60 to 70% is not bad, considering this is fairly new. Are there any studies that have been done that help support this more?

Speaker 3: 20:04

There's actually an experimental animal model of autism where they induce inflammation in these rats and the rats stop communicating, they start repetitive behavior, they show antisocial behavior and when they get umbilical cord blood human umbilical cord blood it actually reverses it. And so the big question now that's facing kind of the researchers is we know it's safe because a biblical blood is not new to medicine. It's been given for 60 years. For what? For leukemia and lymphomas and things like that. But it's new to autism. There's now about 80 different diseases where a biblical blood is the primary treatment. So we know it's safe and so now we're just trying to figure out dosage, administration. You know things like that and who's a good candidate, who's not a good candidate, but it's the newest thing and hopefully will really help a lot of kids.

Speaker 1: 21:01

That's a great thing that you just mentioned who's a good candidate. What goes into determining who makes a good candidate and who doesn't?

Speaker 3: 21:10

I ask questions. Well, if they have a chromosomal abnormality, I tend to tell them that, you know, I never like to say I'm not going to do it because we know it's safe, we know it has the potential to help. But if you look at all the studies that are done, they usually exclude chromosomal abnormalities. They exclude, you know, some other things.

Speaker 1: 21:31

I'm sure a lot has to go into it before you actually decide that it's the best thing for them.

Speaker 3: 21:36

Duke did a study where the vast majority of kids of their study did not benefit. But when they separate out kids with an IQ of below 60, those were the people that didn't respond. Above, excuse me, I say 60, 70. So people above an IQ of 70, an IQ of 70 is still pretty profoundly disabled those as a group benefit. So if they're very profoundly intellectually disabled, I would tell them up front that they may be a non-responder.

Speaker 1: 22:12

That's actually pretty interesting facts.

Speaker 2: 22:14

But my thing with that was, I think it, you know, not a doctor, but I think in things of common sense. I went like what about those children who are below? Maybe they need more because they're more profound? You're giving the same dosage that a kid above 70 gets. Maybe there's a problem with dosage and we don't really know that yet.

Speaker 3: 22:39

Right, maybe higher doses, multiple doses.

Speaker 2: 22:43

Because it's in its infancy. And if that was my child, I would be thinking well, yeah, maybe he needs more if it's safe.

Speaker 1: 22:51

I think everything that you say makes sense. There's a couple of things I think that needs to be addressed. One is I've had a couple of friends of mine they've done stem cell therapy. They've been very fortunate and it worked very well for them. The thing that they did tell me that is sad but it's the truth is that it's very expensive and of course, insurance doesn't cover it.

Speaker 3: 23:11

yet I think this will, though I would say within five to ten years, when all the research comes in, because right now there's nothing else to treat it.

Speaker 1: 23:21

But you're right.

Speaker 3: 23:22

I would say that not everybody can afford it, but there's people who are paying more for therapies and things like that. I think an average number just for a kid I treat is about $8,400, which is a lot of money and I get it, but when I took my kid to Chicago it was over $20,000.

Speaker 1: 23:46

Yeah, I hope you're right because unfortunately anything in the health-related field is very expensive.

Speaker 3: 23:52

I'm trying, like I said, I'm trying to offer it the most cost-effective way that I know how the problem is. A mother gives birth. You've got 48 hours to get the umbilical cord and the umbilical cord blood to the lab, where it has to be processed and then frozen, and then you wait for the genetic profile of the mother, the baby and all the blood work. Hiv, all the hepatitis, the cytomegalovirus, west Nile Zinca, everything that can be transmitted through blood gets tested, and that takes weeks and weeks and weeks. So then, all of a sudden, the data comes in the mom could have anything from a venereal disease to Tattoo.

Speaker 3: 24:37

Yeah, even tattoos get ruled out, but something called cytomegalovirus, which is kind of common, and then that has to be from the West, or even hepatitis, which is somewhat common too. So only about one out of 10, two out of 10 are good to go, but they've invested all their money in 10 out of 10, and then have to get rid of eight because of preexisting illness, maybe some type of genetic abnormality that runs in the family line, things that you don't know about Sure.

Speaker 1: 25:08

that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 25:09

But that's why it's so costly it comes on it's minus 80.

Speaker 3: 25:14

Yeah, these are living cells going into you.

Speaker 1: 25:16

Yeah, that's understandable, because anything that's on the front end of medicine is always more expensive and then, as it becomes more prevalent, cost goes down. Insurances will get in there and help out. So I get it. So let's change gears here a little bit. Earlier on in this conversation you mentioned a book. So did you write a book? If you would tell us a little bit about that?

Speaker 3: 25:36

I actually I like to say she wrote a book about it. I wrote a section on stem cells.

Speaker 2: 25:42

Three chapters.

Speaker 3: 25:43

Three chapters on stem cells, but our son's name is Marston. It's called Educating Marston and it's a wonderful story. I'll plug this. I think it's a great book, but it summarizes her drive to make our child what he is today. And is he perfect? No, he's not perfect, but he can live on his own, he can drive a car, he has a job that people love him at, he gets up every day, goes to work and he's never been happier. And she just summarized her life in the book Things that work, things that didn't.

Speaker 2: 26:16

Moms who have autistic children. We don't have a lot of time, so in the back of the book I just have a reference chapter on everything. So you can go to the back and look up auditory processing. I would have you know, tommottis and the, who I went to the website, the phone number, how it worked, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1: 26:38

That sounds like really great information.

Speaker 2: 26:41

For me that's what I would have done. I didn't have time to read and I get that, but you want the information. It's there. And then the three chapters on stem cells. We don't really advertise that, we don't that we do stem cells. It's a little group, that of mom, that kind of find you. But we like for them to read just the three chapters on stem cells, just so they have a basic knowledge of what's going on.

Speaker 1: 27:07

Sure, that makes sense. There's a lot of information to digest, especially when it's about your own sons or daughters.

Speaker 3: 27:14

It's not magic, but it lays out or I tried to lay out the biologic basis. What do these cells do, what do kids with autism have and how should they interact to make your kid better? And I think that when people read it it makes sense that it should help, and it looks like it does. Now there's probably 15 to 20 studies that have all been very positive on outcome and, like I said, they all run in 60, 70% of responders. Actually, we went to Duke and we sat down with them. They'd have to look at their non responders. Yet they're still trying to figure out the magic dose and things like that.

Speaker 1: 27:53

Well, that shows it's just a lot of research to be done, but that's really good stuff.

Speaker 2: 27:58

It's super cool. We sat down with them. The name of her department is Cellular Cures. We would have never thought five years ago or 10 years ago there would be a department called Cellular Cures.

Speaker 1: 28:11

Well, science is growing in leaps and bounds, and that's a very good thing.

Speaker 3: 28:16

Robocorp blood will be the biggest thing in medicine, in antibiotics, showing the growth of new meat cartilage. It helps back care, all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 1: 28:24

Yeah, it's very interesting and it's definitely something that's here to stay and I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 2: 28:30

For me personally, I feel like I'm at the top of this journey, because when Marston was diagnosed, it was probably one in 10,000. And now it's one in 30, one in 25. And I just said you know what? I'm the beginning of this and I have done this journey and I feel like not everything works for everybody. But I want to share this. It's such a struggle and I wanted to write this book to help people.

Speaker 1: 29:06

Well, personally, I think that's a great thing to do, and I also think that a lot of people are going to benefit from the things that you've gone through and what you're sharing with your book.

Speaker 2: 29:15

Even now it's hard because you look at your child and you dream about what they're going to be, who they're going to marry, what their life's going to be. But it's not going to be that. But I want people to have hope that they can be on their own.

Speaker 1: 29:30

Sure and hope is a great thing.

Speaker 2: 29:32

These are things that can help them on their journey.

Speaker 3: 29:35

And they can have a very meaningful life.

Speaker 2: 29:37

Right.

Speaker 1: 29:39

Absolutely. I've had the pleasure of meeting several autistic people that are out there living great lives, and they deserve it. Now, unfortunately, I've met several people that will never be able to be on their own and they're always going to need some sort of care. So this is such a wide spectrum, but I think it's great that you are out there trying to help people, give them directions where to go, because I think the biggest thing facing autism is people just do not understand it.

Speaker 2: 30:10

Hey, you know we all want a purpose and I think that Marston feels like he has a purpose when he goes to work just like anybody else. And we've seen kids that come here who are nine years old, not potty trained, not speaking, get one dose of stem cells and the mom will call and go. They got potty trained in a week and they're starting to interact with their child, with their siblings, and they're talking. I mean, that is miraculous. To me that's therapy of like five years. It's amazing.

Speaker 3: 30:48

Wow, yeah, it's one more arrow in the quiver, but it might be different, because the more normal the brain gets, the more the therapy will help. You can't lift 200 pounds until you can lift 100 pounds.

Speaker 1: 30:58

Right, I think it's great. I think what you're doing is awesome and hopefully the people that listen to this podcast will gather some knowledge and find a way to help a lot of people. The basic thing is just helping as many as we can.

Speaker 3: 31:10

Exactly. You know, life is short and we belong to a club we don't want to belong to. Parents have an autistic child.

Speaker 2: 31:18

Now that we're in it, we're like we are like the members that are ready to like help.

Speaker 3: 31:22

Right, right, we figure that we have some knowledge, because a lot of these kids are six, seven, eight and 10, and our kids 28 now, and so we lived it before some of these parents were even born. So we have. Hopefully we can help with that playbook that we talked about, because there is no playbook.

Speaker 1: 31:40

Exactly so if you could tell us a little bit about your website and how people can find you there.

Speaker 2: 31:45

Educating Marston, and that's the name of the book. It's on Amazon. You know everything.

Speaker 1: 31:50

That's great. I hope that a lot of people will go to it and see that you've got some valuable information in that. Now, speaking about valuable information, is there any other information that you'd like to give out that you think just might help someone?

Speaker 3: 32:05

It's run through Florida State Medical School, florida State University Medical School, dr Weather's being the elite psychologist who's a pioneer in early intervention and early diagnosis. I would highly recommend that Anybody who has a kid who's three or four or two, or a deus, go. Something's not right. Just go on it and they'll tell you to take some videos and interact with them and send it to them, and it's a way to have seven or eight or nine experts Look at the video, look at it, give you their thoughts in some ways to help your child.

Speaker 1: 32:37

That's just such great information. This is a conversation that I will remember for a very long time. I really appreciate you coming on and sharing all the information with us.

Speaker 2: 32:47

Thank you from our community. Have a great day.

Speaker 1: 32:50

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