Imagine facing the challenges of parenting not one, but three young children with autism, each with their own unique set of needs and behaviors.
Selena Lanelle, a brave mother and author, joins me to share her deeply moving story that stretches from the heartache of early autism signs in her twins to the complexities of navigating a world that often misunderstands non-verbal communication.
With raw honesty, Selena recounts her family's journey through domestic violence, the reflection on autistic traits within her own marriage, and the eventual empowerment they found on the other side of adversity.
In our conversation, Selena doesn't just recount her trials; she also offers hope and guidance through her books, "Autism Avengers" and "Unveiling Shadows."
These works provide a beacon of light for parents in similar situations, reinforcing the message that they are not alone.
We also address the delicate task of balancing a social life amidst the unpredictability of public outings and delve into strategies for fostering independence.
Selena's story is more than just an account of her life—it's a testament to resilience, a source of support, and an invitation to join a community that understands the unique triumphs and challenges of raising children on the autism spectrum.
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Imagine facing the challenges of parenting not one, but three young children with autism, each with their own unique set of needs and behaviors.
Selena Lanelle, a brave mother and author, joins me to share her deeply moving story that stretches from the heartache of early autism signs in her twins to the complexities of navigating a world that often misunderstands non-verbal communication.
With raw honesty, Selena recounts her family's journey through domestic violence, the reflection on autistic traits within her own marriage, and the eventual empowerment they found on the other side of adversity.
In our conversation, Selena doesn't just recount her trials; she also offers hope and guidance through her books, "Autism Avengers" and "Unveiling Shadows."
These works provide a beacon of light for parents in similar situations, reinforcing the message that they are not alone.
We also address the delicate task of balancing a social life amidst the unpredictability of public outings and delve into strategies for fostering independence.
Selena's story is more than just an account of her life—it's a testament to resilience, a source of support, and an invitation to join a community that understands the unique triumphs and challenges of raising children on the autism spectrum.
https://tonymantor.com
https://Facebook.com/tonymantor
https://instagram.com/tonymantor
https://twitter.com/tonymantor
https://youtube.com/tonymantormusic
intro/outro music bed written by T. Wild
Why Not Me the World music published by Mantor Music (BMI)
Welcome to why Not Me the World? Podcast, hosted by Tony Mantor, broadcasting from Music City, usa, nashville, tennessee. Join us as our guests tell us their stories. Some will make you laugh, some will make you cry. Real life people who will inspire and show that you are not alone in this world. Hopefully, you gain more awareness, acceptance and a better understanding for autism around the world. Hi, I'm Tony Mantor. Welcome to why Not Me the World. Joining us today is a mother of four, three which are autistic. Selena Lonell has such a great story to tell us. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:I'm excited about the opportunity. I pretty much want to express my whole life. My life actually revolves around autism.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I understand you have three children that are autistic, one that's neurotypical. What's the ages of the autistic children that you?
Speaker 2:have Five year old Giovanni and Sebastian. They're twins, identical twins. And then Benjamin, who is three.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you have a daughter that's not autistic, and then you have twins that you find are what led you to believe that they might be autistic.
Speaker 2:Well before I had the kids, I had dated and married their father. After three years we got married and some of my friends had pointed out saying I think your husband has autism. And I was unfamiliar with autism. They actually pulled up on the computer and said look. And I started reading about it and I said oh my goodness, he is autistic. So it made sense what a lot of things that he would do. He was very brilliant and just into music. He was a music producer. He was going to school for his master's for music.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Would always have headphones on. Very sensitive to light, we had blackout curtains and noises would irritate him sometimes. Okay, there was a lot of things, so I started getting more educated and learning about him by just witnessing him. So, in the midst of it, I ended up working for an agency that provided services for kids with autism.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, nice.
Speaker 2:But by accident. Actually, I thought I was going for an administrative assistant job. Uh-huh, and I ended up in the insurance authorization department trying to get authorizations for services for the kids.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And that started off because I didn't know what I was doing. The doctor, who was the owner he wanted to fire me and my boss took a chance and she stamped me down and she actually trained me and taught me more about the process and how to go from getting a diagnosis and how to get them at their assessment so we can provide treatment for their services. So I learned all the steps by working in this department.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:In the midst of it, they promoted me to the school department because they wanted to open up a school section where they can provide services in the schools.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I started hiring and training people to place them into the schools to assist students with ABA services. Okay, in the midst of it, I learned.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then I had the twins.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I was actually working the day I delivered them. Wow, in heels, in high heels, hey Aya. So my boss, I said, son, this doesn't feel right. Today I'm going to go to the doctor.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:And I went to the doctor and my blood pressure is over 300.
Speaker 1:That's scary. So what happened from there?
Speaker 2:I called my husband. He drove me to the hospital. They immediately, an hour later, they're getting the twins out and I was scared because this was actually two months early and I wasn't ready for them.
Speaker 1:I can understand that.
Speaker 2:I wasn't prepared at all. I mean, well, he was.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:He was more, my emotions weren't.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:I had already named the twins. I knew they were both boys. I named each one of my stomach already, and so when I saw each one coming out twin baby A, I knew Giovanni, he cried. Twin baby B, sebastian, came out. He didn't cry. I passed out. Wow, the doctor comes to me and tells me all these things that transpired after I passed out.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Apparently, my twins had this rare syndrome, where it's called twin to twin transfusion syndrome.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Where they were in the same sack and Giovanni was draining the blood from Sebastian. He was born, he wasn't breathing, he was a responsive or anything, so they had to revive him and then give him a blood transfusion, because he had almost a lot of blood from Giovanni.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's very scary.
Speaker 2:The funny, ironic part about it was Sebastian still somehow weighed more than Giovanni. He was throwing up in green blood.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:So I told I asked the doctor. After he told me the kids are all right and I said oh, okay, so they're identical. So that could have been a traumatic incident that maybe could have triggered autism. I don't know.
Speaker 1:So how old are they now?
Speaker 2:They are five now.
Speaker 1:So what led you to get them diagnosed for autism?
Speaker 2:After I went through a whole traumatic experience of domestic violence with the father that resulted in his imprisonment. I had got them tested for autism because I noticed that they had different behaviors that were not keeping up with their milestones. Like I mentioned before, I have an older daughter.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:So when I noticed they weren't doing the same things and were doing weird behaviors, I knew, after all this went down that I needed to get them diagnosed and tested.
Speaker 1:So what did you find out once the test came back?
Speaker 2:I was right there. Severe level three, autistic. And all through the midst of this, all I'm going through them, who witnessed you know the or something I went through from the bottom.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:And so that kind of traumatized them. And when you traumatize kids with autism, it's a different thing, because they get set on certain behaviors. So they witnessed violent behaviors from their father and they started to act the same way towards other kids.
Speaker 1:So what happened from there?
Speaker 2:I was unable to put them in a center with other kids and everyone told me that it was best that I did home therapy with them. They were going through attacking other people. Okay, if you were just in the area or if you had your cell phone or something laying there, they would throw it at you or grab your hair. It was just really bad, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sounds like you went through a very difficult time. How are they doing now?
Speaker 2:All they're now. They're good because I have full custody of my kids and 10-year no contact for their father, so I took care of them by myself and I tried to keep atmosphere and environments calm and positive for them. They are happy, little things and joyful.
Speaker 1:Now you've got another child and I think you said is a boy, and I think you said that he's three. Is that correct? Yes, what led you to think that he might be autistic, to where you had to get him diagnosed?
Speaker 2:Well, I started noticing different behaviors than what the twins were experiencing. I was currently at the time getting therapy in home for the twins. Even the therapist starts to mention that they noticed that I should get him tested because of what he would do. Now on his way, he's brilliant. One and a half he realized one of his toys consisted of this magnet inside that controlled the base of the lamp that was metal and would turn off and on. So he disconnected that magnet from out of his toy and crawled over and was going on an awesome lamp and I said how did you know what to do One and a half Until he painted rising Phoenix. Rising Phoenix, wow. And everyone thought that I did that. And he's constantly. His mind is like he's creating things constantly. I have to like put multiple things in front of him and say, okay, invent something with us and that's just really good.
Speaker 1:So tell me about your five year olds now. You've worked with them, counseled them, taught them. How are they working out with their meltdowns? Are they still having that issue?
Speaker 2:Giovanni because their father had actually suffocated him. He had issues with people getting too close to him, so he doesn't like to like really eat in front of people. He'll go into another room and eat his food and then come back. I have to calm him down because he's a tornado when he gets upset. He doesn't like people yelling or getting mad or upset. So as soon as someone raises their voice or gets mad or something, he flips out like a tornado and starts attacking everybody.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, how do the three get along? Do they do well together, considering their differences?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah, their boys, they wrestle with each other.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I now notice they get more eye contact. They're happier. Good. I let them explore what they're good at.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, like I noticed my daughter had brought them a guitar a couple of weeks ago and without even me showing the how to kids that play the guitar, sebastian grabs it, he's looking at the guitar and just playing with the strings, listening to each sound, and then he starts trying to play it as if he knew how to play it already and I said, wow, okay.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's great.
Speaker 2:Giovanni. Even last week I took him. A friend of mine had a cool party.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know, I take my kids everywhere. I don't, I don't matter, it doesn't matter. Just because they have autism, just because I'm a single mom with three kids, I don't care. I still travel with them everywhere, with them Sure, sure. And so I took him to a pool party last week and brought them all in the pool. And Sebastian, he kind of sits on the side and enjoys, just watching people and just smiles and laughs, and you know, but Giovanni, he just jumped straight in the pool and just started swimming.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's great.
Speaker 2:And I never showed him. I never. He just was watching the other kids and was like, oh okay, I got this. And then he just started taking off. Wow, and I was amazed, like wow, I never showed him.
Speaker 1:Okay, Now. Now how old is your daughter? She's 23.
Speaker 2:23 almost like three and a couple months, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, she's 23. So is there a good connection between her and her brothers?
Speaker 2:Try to. Because of the distance it's hard. Like she comes to visit California in the summers.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And we'll so, but they we do can make like video chat and things like that. So it's funny because my daughter's is from my first husband. She's actually her. Her father is Mexican, my kids, the boys, their father is white, but somehow they all look alike.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:And hey.
Speaker 1:All right. So what about foods and textures and that type of thing? Do they have any issues with that?
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, okay. Yes, sebastian, he doesn't eat anything except specifically Gerber multigrain oatmeal. Okay, he will not move from anything from that. I recently got him to try like yogurts that doesn't have anything like you know, just smooth yogurt Right, and he loves vanilla ice cream from McDonald's, but that's the only thing I can get him to eat.
Speaker 3:Right, okay.
Speaker 2:And so luckily, the multigrain has all the nutrients it needs, so he's perfectly healthy. The doctors have said so, so Well, that's good.
Speaker 1:That's good. Now what about the other two? Do they have any texture issues or food issues?
Speaker 2:So the other ones are different. So, giovanni, he eats some things. However, he likes chicken. If it's cold chicken, if it's cut into cubes, if it's cut into cubes, he will not eat it because it's different shape.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:If it's pasta, it has to be spaghetti noodles, long noodles. If they're little tiny, macaroni noodles, he won't eat it.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's just he has a visual kind of thing. If it looks different to him, he won't eat it. Sure, and then Benjamin, he eats anything Well that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, so you still homeschool them.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Do you foresee a situation in the future where you might put them into school where they can interact with others, or do you think that probably won't happen?
Speaker 2:I'm looking more into homeschooling, but I do want to get them in programs because I'm noticing their skills vary. I noticed they all love sports, Like they love warning and things like that. So I wanted to put them into extracurricular, like maybe have them learn gymnastics or something or things like that.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And as well as, like I said, I'm going to homeschool them too, but I always all the time I take them to various parks, let them meet different kids, interact socially, and that has really been helping.
Speaker 1:That's really good to hear Now. They've had meltdowns in the past and you've corrected them and helped them. Do they have any problems interacting with the kids at the playgrounds or the parks?
Speaker 2:No, actually they're happy, they love being out in nature, they run around. The worst thing I have to say is actually I have more problems with the parents. Unfortunately, some parents, I guess they're not as educated in autism.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And so that's kind of weird. So, for instance, this one particular instance, this little girl comes up to Sebastian showing him her bubbles and she's blowing them. She's like like this and she's trying to show them on a blow, and I go, honey, he doesn't know on a blow and stuff. And then I go over to the mom and I was like, yeah, my son, he has autism, he doesn't know how to blow yet and stuff. And as soon as I said that, it was like she grabs her daughter, and she's like, okay, honey, we're gonna go.
Speaker 1:And I was like, wow, Wow, that's pretty sad because that's the biggest thing that I see is people that have never been around anyone that's autistic. They don't know how to act, they don't know how to react, they don't know what to say Because they don't understand what autism is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and the fear in their eyes is just overwhelming sometimes.
Speaker 1:Well, that's real sad because I've been talking with so many different people that are autistic and you've got such a wide variety of people and the old saying is you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Like I have three different personalities with my kids. You know, one is the highest functioning and he's sort of the three year old. He sort of bullies the twins because he comprehends things a little bit more than the twins do.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:When I repeat stuff, he gets mad that the twins don't respond to me the first time and he'll go and he'll push them.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:No, and so he tends to bully because his brain is always moving, you know.
Speaker 1:Right. So what's your approach when he starts getting aggressive, a little bit more aggressive, that you wanna tone that down? What's your approach in getting him to settle down so that he doesn't bully anymore?
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'll yell at him, but sometimes I have to see, I'll tell him oh, honey, I got this. Okay, I don't need your help. Okay, you know cause he's actually responding? Because I'm repeating myself and he doesn't like me to repeat myself to them and I have to tell him, I have to remind him. I said honey, your brother's. You know I have to repeat myself sometimes, honey, I got this okay.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:He's like a little man. He tries to do everything independently.
Speaker 1:And he's the five year old right.
Speaker 2:No, the three year old, he's the three year old.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's the three year old. Okay, sorry. Yeah, all right, all right. So the three year old is the one that can tend to get a little bit more on the aggressive side.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:How about the five year olds? Are they pretty passive, or how do they act?
Speaker 2:Well, Sebastian's pretty passive. He's like a teddy bear.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:He's just laughing, you know laughing for hours and he's so cute and so he's sort of passive when he starts to do stuff. Right, giovanni, he's the oldest, I mean oldest by a minute.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:He still has that power trip about it. So when Benjamin tries to do that, he'll immediately attack back.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Because, remember, giovanni was the one that suffocated and he doesn't like people attacking at him.
Speaker 3:Right right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So now they're attacking each other and I have to calm him both down and Giovanni has to calm him more down, because when he gets like I said, when he gets excited and upset, he's a tornado, he hits everybody that's in the room, it's like. So what I do with him is I just put his hands next to the sides of him and I said calm down, honey, it's okay, it will be okay. Just you know, with Benjamin I read direct by making him happy and tickling or something.
Speaker 1:Well, the main thing is that whatever you're doing, it works. So many parents that have autistic children. They have the struggles within their family of creating a good environment. How is your social life? Because that can affect your friends and family, and all that so having three autistic children how has that affected you, or has it affected you?
Speaker 2:Not at all. Everyone knows if you invite me somewhere, they're coming along with me.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:And that hasn't stopped my social life, hasn't stopped my business, because I also run Hollywood events as well. My friend had a film premiere. They know I'm bringing the kids, so you know I'll have dinner with them on the rooftop in Beverly Hills with the kids.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I just what I did was to make it easier for me. I bought a wagon and I'll carry them around the wagon. And I remember I was on the rooftop of Beverly Hills restaurant one time, going through the tables with the wagon, and a girl stopped me from what looked like Rihanna and she said oh my God, girl, that is so smart. And so that's why I would tell people when I go to restaurant, table for four, three high chairs, please, you know, and the wagon folds up under a table, Everyone's nice and comfortable.
Speaker 1:Has it affected where you can take them or where you can go at all? Not at all that's good, that's good.
Speaker 2:Not at all. I let people know as I'm coming in the door. I just need a table for four, three high chairs. Today Everyone doesn't freak out. Sometimes people freak out. They see me coming three kids in the wagon like, oh my God, these kids are gonna be bad at it. No, my kids are calm, well behaved, right, if anything. I get stopped very often saying how well-behaved my kids are and they're amazed.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's great. So, even though each one's had their different little issues when they go out in public, they don't seem to have that.
Speaker 2:No, they love traveling. I mean, when we had the twins, we've been on the airplanes with them. I mean they love just looking around and listening to music and things like that.
Speaker 1:Right, so what are your plans for them in the future? Do you see any issues that they're gonna have to deal with, or are there any concerns you might have for them moving forward?
Speaker 2:They're all still non-verbal.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:We tried to do the sign language thing, they really refused to do it. Okay, I mean, it was more of like they knew what they were learning, but they just didn't wanna do it. And they would just be like I would tell Giovanni, just do them more already so she can stop saying it, you know, and then look at it sign language for more, you know. It's like they know what to do. They just refuse to do it.
Speaker 1:So I've been told that some that are non-verbal use pictures to communicate. Is that something that you use? Does that help you or how do you handle that?
Speaker 2:Actually there's no problem, Like if I say something they don't know exactly what I'm saying. It's just they're not able to communicated back. So I'll say go get that toy over there or go get me that, and they'll do it. They can pretty much save the twins because, Benjamin, you can dress himself now and everything. The twins have been now moving up and getting on putting on their shirts and their pants by themselves and things like that. So it's moving along. They're starting to babble too. I give them fine-ex-training in the mornings. I put them like through our practicing sounds Sure.
Speaker 2:In these videos. I sound words, music sounds, and you know Giovanni say he's a music person, so anything but music he's tuned into.
Speaker 1:Do you see them becoming verbal in the future? What's your thoughts about that?
Speaker 2:I think so because they've moved along. They've come a long way, because before they weren't even saying anything and they would always retreats. You asked them to do things and they didn't give eye contact and things like that. And now they get eye contact. They smile, they laugh, they repeat. They're starting to repeat sounds. After me, benjamin does sounds and Louvins after me. He's going to be an actor.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right. Well, that's good. So now, what about you? Do you still work within the autistic community, or have you gotten away from that?
Speaker 2:I moved away. Well, when I resigned from the position because of what was going on, I had to resign. I was actually afraid that their father was going to come to my job and do something so. But I ended up using their services for my kids in home.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I was actually able to witness it on the other side as a parent.
Speaker 1:So when you first started working in your job and you was helping parents that had autistic children, did you ever think in your mind that you would flip it around and you'd be going back to the same place with autistic children yourself?
Speaker 2:No, I didn't. No, I did not.
Speaker 1:I get that a lot from a lot of people that had worked in a charity that they just never saw that coming. So when you got the diagnosis that your kids were autistic, what went through your mind?
Speaker 2:So, like I said, I had found out after what happened. So at that point I had resigned already. So when I found out they were actually were they actually autistic, even though I had suspected that, I moved forward with the services. Now, part of it was I had to as well, because when I had had had their father arrested for trying to kill me in front of the kids, they tried to take the kids away from me, saying did I fail to protect them from their father? Wow. So they turned it around on me and so I had to show them in the last as well as get my life together with everything, and they didn't really care where my income was coming in anything. At this point they said, well, if you can't handle the kids, we could take them. So I already knew what to do. I got them diagnosed with autism. I got them services. I got a place. A friend of mine helped me get a townhouse.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I was able to have the therapist they each had their own therapist coming to the house. It was luckily big enough for all these people in the house every day Good, good. And so they were able to get the care, and for a year and a half they had therapy.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:In home, so it actually helped work out.
Speaker 1:Do they still have therapy, or is this something now that you're providing?
Speaker 2:I'm providing because we had reached a point where I noticed we were plateauing. Okay, I noticed the kids were starting to not really respond to the therapist and they were getting, I think, frustrated from having too many people in the house all the time Okay. And so they were getting to a point where they would lead the therapist politely to the door trying to tell them go, you know.
Speaker 1:All right. So what kind of advice would you give to a new set of parents that are just finding out that they have autistic children for the very first time? What would you tell them?
Speaker 2:For one. You got to make sure they have a definite diagnosis and then look around for agencies that provide services to help them through the treatment. Because what they do is, if you find an agency, they'll do what you call is a functional behavior assessment and they'll see, you know where, what the behaviors are in certain areas for the kid, and that way they can draft up a treatment plan for them and provide them with a certain amount of hours of services. So now that's for the in-home therapy. Also, there's some centers that have services they provide in the center for people who don't want to do it at home, and then also for the schools too as well. Selects an earthing too. But you got to make sure you go through the steps diagnosis, assessment and then you'll start services.
Speaker 1:That's great information. I also think I remember you telling me that you wrote a couple of books. Tell me a little bit about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's called autism Avengers a super parent kick-ass Guide to bossing domestic chaos in the autism superhero squad. What it is it like? It's like an ultimate guide for raising autistic kids who witnessed domestic violence or suffer childhood abuse, and it's like a good parenting guide.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Now when can they find it?
Speaker 2:You can find it an Amazon as An Amazon. Yes, as well as my, as well as my other book to a world I wrote says as far as the diary of the Details of the counter, what happened and how my, what my Kids experience and witness that I went through. So I wrote a diary and published that as well, called unveiling shadows a journey from darkness to empowerment. And, and and. The books are under Selena Linnell Lawrence, just to mention on Amazon.
Speaker 1:That's great. Now, how do people find you if they want to reach out to you?
Speaker 2:You can find me under let's see. You can face by me on Facebook under Selena Linnell you can send me a message messenger or on Instagram at Selena dot Linnell, and that spelled S e l e n? A dot L a n e L a l? E, selena. Now the books that I have are Selena Linnell, lawrence that's what it's under, and also on things. You can view me and the kids On YouTube as well. I created a YouTube channel called city mom chronicles and that way you can see what our life, of our travels that we've been going through After their father was incarcerated. I, I think a lot of traveling places, so I filmed it.
Speaker 1:Well, this was a great conversation. I truly enjoyed talking to you and, once again, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:Okay, thank you so much. It was great talking you it was my pleasure.
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