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'Daredevil: Born Again' Season 2, Episode 5 Instant Reaction & CinemaCon News

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The brothers are back to talk about the newest episode of Daredevil: Born Again. After that, they dig into CinemaCon and discuss some of the news that came out of it. Including Spider-Man casting, Insidious 6 trailer, and much more.

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SPEAKER_00

Hello world, this is I'm not a podcast. It's Tuesday, uh, April 14th, 2026. This is from Intelvision Podcast, or shop referred from Intellivision. My name is Caleb Chase, what up?

SPEAKER_01

Doing good, bro. How about you?

SPEAKER_00

Doing great. Here to talk about Daredevil Born Again, season two, episode five. And we're also gonna talk about uh CinemaCon. We got a lot of shit that's uh happening, a lot of new news coming out, so I'm excited to talk about that stuff. Um Chase, we didn't talk last week about Daredevil, so I don't but let me ask you this. At the end of episode four last week, did you think Vanessa was dead?

SPEAKER_01

No. Like ending on a cliffhanger ending like that. I felt like there was still something left for her character to uh to give. So yeah, I feel like that was a a misdirection.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I didn't think she was dead either. Um I mean, obviously it was possible. I mean, who knows? Um yeah, I didn't I didn't think she was dead either. And we're obvious I mean we're obviously gonna talk about what happened in this next episode, but uh let me ask you this also though, like when Bullseye threw that glass at him, did you think what happened, he was he planned for that to happen?

SPEAKER_01

I mean it's bullseye, so yeah, in hindsight, kinda, because if he was planning to go for Kingpin and just by like by design was like, no, if this gets deflected, it'll hit Vanessa. It's like, alright, bro, now you a little too cold. Like so, yeah, I think that was the game plan at the end of the day. He was like, fuck Kingpin, I'm gonna do to you what uh killing you would be more satisfying than uh or would be less satisfying than killing your girl and leave me either to deal with it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was my favorite episode, man. Bullseye is fucking cold.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, he's like that. I fuck with the iteration of Bullseye. He uh does the OG in the movie justice without having the goofy ass forehead tattoo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was tough. Shout out, shout out to Colin Farrell, but that was that was a tough one. Um that was a tough one. All right, what's up with episode five? Um, pretty much what happens is um Fisk, he spends the entire episode in the hospital with uh Vanessa. Um and Matt spends the entire opposite episode hiding, looking for a place to go with uh with uh Dex. Um and in between that we get a bunch of flashbacks of Matt and Foggy. We also get some flashbacks of Fisk and uh his boy Wesley. Um so that was interesting. And then yeah, at the end of the episode, you know, Vanessa, she has some flashbacks, and uh she she she she she's gone, she's dead now. Um Chess, what did you think about uh episode five?

SPEAKER_01

Episode five was solid. I was um I was real curious to know what was gonna end up happening with uh Buck and Daniel. That shit was um had me on the edge of my seat, you know? Because it's like what we know Buck is like that. We know he's low-key savage as fuck. And um yeah, by the end of it, we see that he is. It just happened off screen, unfortunately. Well, fortunately, I don't know, but um yeah, that that was a wild ride throughout the episode, along with um I don't know how I feel about the foggy flashbacks, like it was good to have a bit more development for Matt and to see that shit, but um I don't know, it also felt like you all killed Foggy off too quickly, you know? Like there was still good moments we could have uh portrayed with this character.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the Foggy thing. I mean it's I'm I want to speak on the the Daniel and uh and uh Buck thing. Um I just thought it was funny because um, you know, the actor replays Daniel, his his dad, is his you know, his dad's James Gandolfini, who you know is Tony Soprano from the Sopranos. Um that entire scene of them driving out there, bro, like they that's like a direct, like they they directly stole that from the Sopranos because I could tell you at least 10 different characters in Sopranos who died from going on a ride with somebody out to the woods and you know getting shot. Um yeah, that was like that I can tell you like 10 characters that happened to in the Sopranos. Um, so I thought that was funny with that being, you know, his son or whatever. Um all right, but I'm gonna be honest, Chase. This is the worst dairy episode we've ever gotten. Yeah. This shit sucked. Um first off, I I hate filler episodes, and to me, that's what this was. Um like you know how a show is going and it's telling a really good story, and then in the middle of it, you just kind of stop it to go on some other like side mission.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, where what you this happens a lot in the anime community as well.

SPEAKER_00

It actually happened in Daredevil last season, too. Um, and I'm pretty sure it was episode five, the the bank episode where they were in the bank. Oh, yeah. That was a filler episode, too. Uh, I mean, I I I I I actually like that one though.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say I fucked with that episode.

SPEAKER_00

I I fucked with it. I didn't fuck with this one though. Um to me, episode four last week, to me, that's the best Daredevil episode since the Netflix series. Uh I just thought it was perfect. Like it it ended on a crazy cliffhanger that gets you really excited for the next week. And to me, and to me, this one was just a letdown. You know, it was just a letdown because like literally nothing happened. Like nothing happened in this episode that we didn't know before. Like, I mean, I'm sure at the end of episode four, most people assume Vanessa was dead, but I mean, that's literally that's what just ended up happening.

SPEAKER_01

That is probably my biggest gripe with this episode. If you're gonna do the whole, like, is she dead, is she not? Don't kill her off the next episode, especially like under the conditions that it happened, you know? Like, she's in a coma, we see her thoughts and like some flashbacks, and then she wakes up and it looks like she's gonna make a decent recovery just to know if I'm actually dying right now. Like, I don't know. I feel like that was a weird call. That was a weird uh direction to go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man. Like, I like just nothing happened. Like, I'm sorry, bro. Like, to me, what was the point of this? Like, the Matt and Deck stuff was fine, I guess. You know, seeing them like talk to each other and whatnot, and Matt Matt pretty much I guess you could say they kind of grew closer as characters, you know.

SPEAKER_01

This uh Dex got some uh humanization, he's not just a sociopath, psychopath, the killer or whatever, which we've kind of gotten enough. I wouldn't say enough, but like we've kind of gotten that vibe as the story's gone along. Like his connection with Vanessa, like this man is a paid killer, but at the same time, he's still a regular guy. So, yeah, there there was some development there, but not enough for it to be uh the whole episode. And also, BB getting off screen is kind of fucked, man. Like we uh we killed off the two main like women characters in this show. Yeah, we still have Karen, but she's definitely more of a side character as uh this shit's going on, and we still have um White Tiger. I'm blanking on the actress's name, but um, yeah. But Vanessa and BB both being gone in the same episode is kind of crazy, and I uh yeah, not a fan of the the note that BB left on. Like, I get it. Uh Buck probably figured out pretty quickly that she was the one that leaked that shit. But uh let's uh let's see some of the the chase, the hunt, or like give us an idea that BB knows Irv is being uh tracked, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I'll I'm gonna be honest, I was good with the BB thing, man. Like, I was good with it. You know, I've since this since the season started, I was saying I wasn't really crazy about like the storyline with that and whatnot. And it's like, I mean, I don't know, like, like, yeah, it sucked, but like, I mean, it was expected. Like, she's been she's been on this BS with them for a while. You know, she's playing both sides.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, for as much uh build-up and screen time as it got, I feel like that was just anticlimactic, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it would have it would I'm gonna be honest. I kind of wish they would have done this. I kind of wish they would have because I I kind of wish two things would have happened. Rather, rather he had BB in the trunk still alive, and and he makes Daniel kill her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, that would have been an interesting way to go with it.

SPEAKER_00

That or another one, that or another one is that uh, you know, Buck just tells Daniel at the hospital, like, hey, I need you to kill BB or I'm gonna kill you, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Um right, like let us see how this part of the story develops. Yeah, she's got enough screen time to at least get that, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I get it. I I don't have a problem with it though. Um, honestly. Um the Vanessa thing, I mean, I'm gonna be honest, brother. I'm not a huge fan of like this actress. Like, Vanessa's just boring. Like, I don't find Vanessa interesting at all.

SPEAKER_01

I kind of feel you on that. She leaves uh she left a lot to be desired. I can't explain it, but like you get the sense that she is a queen pin just as much as he is a kingpin, but you never really see it fully in action.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like I don't like I didn't give a fuck about Vanessa. I don't care to see what it's gonna do to Fisk because like this thing is gonna go insane.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, he's definitely crashing out next episode.

SPEAKER_00

Like, and I like like and I said this, like I had a prediction that like I think Fisk was gonna kill uh Powell this episode, you know, his lead his lead anti-vigiling task force guy. Um you think about it, bro, like he puts Powell in charge of all this shit and like he always fucks it up, you know? Yeah, like he's never given a mission that he's executed, either, you know, one thing happens to the other. Like, how do you let Dex in the fucking gym?

SPEAKER_01

No, that's true. But not trying to uh to play devil's advocate for Powell. What do you expect, man? Like when you hire a bunch of guys who couldn't make it as regular cops or in the military because they were too OC. I feel like them uh giving orders and leading missions is not gonna go well.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, I'm just saying he put him in charge for a lot of shit, and he always fucks up. So I kind of was expecting Fist to like get him out there. I was expecting Buck to like kill him. Um you know? Um But yeah, I don't know. I'm just I wonder what do you think Jessica Jones is gonna pop up? Because like we know she isn't.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I've been wondering that maybe she'll be uh Matt and Dex's saving grace, help them get out of this jam. Yeah, but yeah, I was hoping we would have gotten more uh more hints at her at least.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's she's mentioned once in episode one, but like that's it um so far. Um but I'll I'll just say this though. Like, like I didn't like this episode, but I will say though, like if you were a big fan of Foggy from the Netflix series, you're probably gonna like this episode. Um that's true. With that being said, though, I never fucked with Foggy, so I didn't give a fuck about any of these flashback scenes.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, he was the the comedic relief, you know? Like every series usually has a guy like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, no, no, he's not like I don't even mean like that. Like he had some pretty funny jokes sometimes. My issue with Foggy was like, I just hated the way he reacted when he found out Matt was Daredevil. Like he was like so like he was like, he was like so mad at him, bruh. Like this shit is like why the fuck are you mad?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, hey, your best friend is going out here on some Cape Crusader shit for fighting bad guys and people with guns. Yeah, no, I'd I'd be shook, but yeah, I I get you. He definitely overreacted a bit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and like he was it was it was almost like he was like jealous or something. Like he he was like, like, bruh, he doesn't have to tell you that's probably some of that. I'm like, bruh, he doesn't have to tell you every single thing he does, you know. Like, you know, I don't know that that shit always rub me the wrong way with foggy. Um true. So yeah, I didn't I didn't really give a fuck about this episode, to be completely honest with you. Um but I hope next episode's amazing, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, next episode I'm expecting to be very interesting, like Kingpin's reaction to all this shit. Like, he's gonna tear the city up looking for Dex and uh Daredevil.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Yep. All right, that's Daredevil Born again, uh season two, episode five. All right, Chase. There's a few things from cinema. Cinema's cons going on in Las Vegas right now. There's a few things happening there that I want to talk to you about. Um coming this summer, we're getting we're getting a Resident Evil movie, Chase. Where are you at with Resident Evil these days? You are you ever a Resident Evil guy?

SPEAKER_01

Not really, no. I've seen a movie or two, and I've played some of the video games, but like not um none of them were memorable enough to me to be like, oh yeah, no, I definitely fuck with Resident Evil, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, now same here. I don't think I've ever watched one of the movies. Um but we have a new one coming out in August, and the only reason I'm excited about it is because of uh the guy directing it. You know, it's my guy uh Zach Krager from Weapons. Um it's the the lead of the movie is uh Austin Abrams, who is uh the kid in weapons, who is the crackhead. Um, okay. So seeing so seeing him in Russian Able's gonna be pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

Um but yeah, I don't be uh Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Kugler situation, just the the horror version.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I mean maybe I don't. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. That would be pretty cool. Um it does seem like every generation we have one of those, you know. Like this generation, it's them the past when it was like it was like Leo and Scorsese, um you know, Quentin and Sam Jackson, you know. Um yeah, I fuck with it. Um all right. Next thing, Chase, Spider-Man brand new day. We got two new posters that came out. Um, and my immediate thought is that this shit looks exactly like Spider-Man 2. Um, you know, Spider-Man 2 poster where it shows Spider-Man and it shows like uh Mary Jane inside of his eye or whatever, uh inside the shade of his Spider-Man. That reminds me of Spider-Man 2. Um, but what do you think about these uh two posters?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it definitely gives Spider-Man 2 vibes. I feel like that was definitely um a callback they were they were uh building towards. The other one is clean as well. We got Spidey jumping on um shit, a swarm of bad guys.

SPEAKER_00

So the hand the hand.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I'm uh I'm definitely fucking with both of these. I'm hoping we get some more Mary Jane in this movie. Like, I know she doesn't remember him like as Spidey or Peter Parker, but I feel like Zendaya has um the same thing going on in Dune that she does have going on in Spider-Man, where it's like they pitch her as like the main female lead, which yes, she is, but at the same time, her screen time doesn't uh does not reflect that.

SPEAKER_00

So like Yeah. I just feel like they have to do that from like a marketing standpoint.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, of course. No, yeah, she's probably the biggest name in these, like yeah. What would you say is more famous? Her or Tom Holland.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I mean it's her, but she's got a big summer, man. I mean, she's got a movie out now called The Drama doing pretty well, and she's got yeah, she's got she's got the Odyssey, she's got Spider-Man, and she's got Dune. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, I'm hoping this uh doesn't happen in uh the Odyssey as well.

SPEAKER_00

I mean that that one she's playing like a minor character, so I don't really I don't I don't know. I don't really expect that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I don't I don't I don't know who she's playing, but she's like the fourth or fifth lead, I think. So I don't I don't really yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. All right. Alright, stay on Spider-Man Chase, Spider Man Beyond the Beyond the Spider-Verse, that's coming out next June. Um let's go. From what I read, it seems like Kingpin, Spider Ham, and Spider Noir are coming back. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01

Fire. Fucks with it. I'm glad we uh we have a date now, a release date.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, did you see these uh images? I sent I sent I sent you a tweet of uh the images from beyond the Spider-Verse. Um to me it still looks it still looks beautiful. Um yeah, like these movies are always gonna look good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, this animation team fucking snaps. So very excited to see uh what the next Spider-Verse movie holds.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I do I do hate that it it's gonna end up taking this movie fucking four years to come out. Like for an animated movie, that's kind of insane. Um yeah, that's kind of fucking insane.

SPEAKER_01

They'd be taking their time.

SPEAKER_00

Some of these are hand drawn, so yeah, no, it it mainly had to do with the visual stuff. Um, I don't I don't really know. Um I'm not sure. All right, now Chase, the first teaser trailer for Clayface. Um, it was shown at Cinemaconn. We haven't seen it yet, obviously. Um, but apparently it shows Matt Hagen disfigured in a hospital. Uh and the footage ends with his face falling off in the bathtub. Uh, this guy, you is this how you excited for Clayface?

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah, man. Clayface was uh one of the better villains, in my opinion, that uh didn't get enough screen time. Like, you know, the uh Batman has his main ops, his main rivals, Joker, Penguin, Riddler, but like as far as uh the guys he would see slightly less often, I fucked with Clayface.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, yeah, me too. Um, and I like that they're doing it the monster way. They're not because like because there is a different version of Clayface where he's a regular human, but his face can just change.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I like that's cool on some myspeak shit, but nah, you gotta have the monster aspect too.

SPEAKER_00

I like that they're going full-on monster, um, like Batman the Animated series. Um so whenever that comes out, I can't wait to see how that movie looks.

unknown

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

All right, stand in DC. Final thing, Chase. Um Adria Arjona has been cast in Superman Man of Tomorrow. Um and from what I'm reading, it says it was previously thought that she may play Maxima, but that might not be correct anymore. Um, what do you think about this?

SPEAKER_01

Uh not super familiar with her, but I think she'll be a good addition to these movies. I'm wondering uh what other uh villain or villainess would be.

SPEAKER_00

Alright. First off, she's she's she's good. She's a good actress. She was in um she was in a hitman uh Glenn Powell movie that came out a few years ago.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um and she's gonna be the co-lead in Michael B. Jordan's next movie, uh, the Thomas Crown Affair. Um yeah, she's like she's getting up there.

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, I'm pulling her up now. Uh no for I'm DB.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, yeah, no, she's good. I think she was in some Star Wars stuff, um, too. Um, but I'm gonna be honest with you, Chase. Um, she's Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, she's uh she's Casa's girlfriend in Andor. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. Um, but like I said, she's Wonder Woman. She's Wonder Woman, she's gonna be Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_00

Um, first off, I think she'd be perfect for Wonder Woman, and she's been my number one fan cast since they announced they were gonna do Wonder Woman. Um I'm excited about this. Um I don't believe the stuff about her being Maxima. I think they're just like doing that to like hide it or whatever. Um she's too famous to be Maxima. Um, like, be honest with you, I don't even know who the fuck Maxima is. Um but yeah, not bringing any too many bells for me either. But yeah, she's too she's she's too fucking famous to like Maxima, and it's like you know, she knows that people want her to be Wonder Woman. So my thing would be like, why would DC go to her and offer her Maxima? And she is just like, yeah, I'll I'll be Maxima. I don't want to be Wonder Woman, I'll be Maxima. Like, get the fuck out of here. Um, so yeah, I do worry, I am worried though, because like man, introducing Wonder Woman in a Superman sequel, that that that sounds like Schneider, man. Sounds like Zack Snyder. Yeah, so yeah, I'm not too crazy about that part of it.

SPEAKER_01

No, yeah, I'm wondering. Um like I wish we would get um you know pre-known uh drops like we were getting in the phases. Because right now it's very Superman heavy for the DC universe. Yeah, we had um creature commandos, which is a little bit of everybody's villains, but yeah, we got Superman, Supergirl 2, and now another Superman, Superman 2, where we're introducing Wonder Woman, and hell, we already were introduced Hot Girl, Green Lantern, Core, all that in the first Superman. So, yeah. Are any of these other heroes gonna get their chance to fully shine?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, we do have Peacemaker, um that's true as well, and uh we do we do uh I mean we we do have lanterns that's still coming out later this year. Um and speaking of which, he's gonna uh Jon Stewart, he's gonna be in Man of Tomorrow. He's one of the guys in that. Um all right. I kind of think I kind of think Man of Tomorrow is gonna be like a soft launch to like the Justice League or something. Um I could see it. But I mean, who knows? But apparently, from what I was reading about this movie, apparently uh Lex and Superman are gonna have to like team up to stop Brainiac.

SPEAKER_01

Um actually okay with that because if you go that route, it lets um Lex Luther as a villain kind of breed, you know? Him being Superman's biggest rival. And he was great in the first movie. Like, I fuck with this uh iteration of Lex, but yeah, if we're gonna be consistently showing him in the movies, he can't be the big bad every time. So yeah, depending on how they play this, which we're dealing with a super psychic brain. I I think this will work out uh very well, it'll be an interesting story.

SPEAKER_00

Man, I like I'm okay with it. I just think it's too soon. Um more time with Lex trying to kill Superman. Um like his obsession with Superman was like something I never seen before from a villain. Like it like Yeah, no, that's true. Like he was that good, like he was like hate of the year type shit.

SPEAKER_01

He would have been at that ball with uh Dave Chappelle and all them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like you ever see the like you ever see that fucking uh like a like like a like a reel on on Instagram or show like a video of Lex Luther and then the caption says something like Lex Luther, let me know that I'm not hating to my full potential. Like yeah, he was like a great generational hater, like amazing. And I I just wanted more time of like seeing that, but then teaming up, man. It's just like I just feel like it's a little too soon. I want a one more movie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's true. I want to one more movie to team up here. How do you uh go back to being fucking rivals?

SPEAKER_00

You know, I mean they'll find a they'll find a way to do it. I just kind of I don't know. I just I just want a one more movie of that. Or or or honestly, for what you're saying, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't have minded a movie of them like you know, just sitting legs out for a movie, you know.

SPEAKER_01

That's true, yeah. Just let him breathe in general. Like technically he went to jail. So like if he gets broken out by the end of this movie, that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I'm I'm I mean if you remember Peacemaker season two, I'm pretty sure didn't he get out in Peacemakers?

SPEAKER_01

He wasn't oh that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I couldn't, yeah. But I uh but like I would have been cool with them just you know having him keeping him in prison, you know, send him out a movie because I mean in the original Superman movies, like uh that Lex Luther was in Superman, uh the Gene Hackman one, he was in Superman one and two, wasn't in three, and came back in four. Um yeah, I mean that's an option too.

SPEAKER_01

No, yeah, you don't necessarily need Lex. Like, yes, he is Superman's Joker, but at the same time, Superman is the is the grab, is the draw. So if there's a movie without Lex playing a major role, that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and like and like um Superman, he doesn't have a deep rogue gallery, but he has a lot of like cool characters who we haven't seen yet. Um you think about it, like all the Superman movies we've gotten, the only villains we've ever gotten are fucking Lex and Zod.

SPEAKER_01

Basically, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, um, I mean there was uh I can't remember who the villain was in Super in Superman 3. I mean that movie is so bad. Um but it's really just been Lex and Zod. You know, like I wouldn't I wouldn't mind seeing them throw some of them other motherfuckers out there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Brainiac was a good call. Shit, um Gorilla Grad would have been a good one, you know? Another super smart, intelligent villain.

SPEAKER_00

I love Gorilla Grad. I want I want Gorilla Grod in a Flash movie, though.

SPEAKER_01

Um that would be fire too.

SPEAKER_00

You know, because that's you know, because that's that's a Flash villain. Um, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, I thought Superman was fighting a gorilla too at one point.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure he does. I'm sure he does. I mean, I'm sure he does. I know there was one of the Justice League Animated Series episodes where he was fighting Gorilla Grod.

SPEAKER_01

Um, that's probably what I'm thinking of, then.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The news really like a football stadium. Yeah, I remember that shit. Um shout out to Justice League animated series.

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah. You know, um DC know what they're doing when it comes to the animated shit. Justice League, hell, all the Batman movies, fucking uh Young Justice was really good. Like they be doing their thing on that side of things. Hell, OG Team Titans.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we're all I'll watch, I'll watch all those movies, honestly. You know, I know there's like a Green Lantern show too. Um so yeah, that's that. Alright, um, Chase, we're gonna be getting out of here soon, man. Um Michael comes out next week. Are you gonna be do you have any interest in watching Michael, the Michael Jackson biopic?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, yes and no. I fucked with Michael Jackson's music, but like I was never a super fan or anything like that. Um I'll probably catch it in theaters. But no, it's not uh anything I'm in a rush to see, per se.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Alright. I know this isn't a music podcast, and while we're on the subject, let me just ask you this, Chase. Who do you have is the goat of RB?

SPEAKER_01

The goat of RB?

SPEAKER_00

Who's the best?

SPEAKER_01

I mean shit.

SPEAKER_00

Is it MJ?

SPEAKER_01

I mean it might be. Because like, who's no one's touching him since like Beyonce can maybe make an argument, but yeah, that's he's the king of pop just as much as he is the king of RB.

SPEAKER_00

Man. You're right, bruh. I mean, I can't argue against it, but I'm sorry, bro. That rapist is the goat. He's the goat, man. He's a goat. I'm sorry. I don't want to say his name, but you know, he's the fucking goat. Um I don't listen to music anymore. You know, just you know, being honest. I can't relax my listen to one of them songs, but man, he that dude's on another level.

SPEAKER_01

He had some hits, man. He definitely has some uh some classics. But hell, it's other classics out here, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you got guys like Usher. Um he's up there. Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. All right. Uh, that's all y'all for today on the I'm not podcast. Me and Chase will be back next week with more Daredevil Bornean talk. We're also gonna get into the boys and uh some more invincible. Um, Chase, have Chase, have a good one, bro. I'll see you later.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, you too, fam. Later, y'all.