'Daredevil: Born Again', 'The Boys', & 'Invincible'

The brothers are back with a jam packed episode. We start off by going through the first three episodes of the final season of 'The Boys'. Then we go through episode six of 'Daredevil: Born Again', and we finish off by going through a season update of 'Invincible'.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello world, this is I'm now podcast. Today is Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026. This is from Intellivision Podcast. We'll talk about from Intellivision. Ernest Caleb Chase.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Doing good, bro. Living the dream. How about you?

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Doing great. Did you have a good uh 420, Chase?

SPEAKER_01 0:26

I mean, I worked most of it, but got pretty darn high afterwards. All my plugs uh been doing uh homemade edibles, and yeah, them shits is uh pretty powerful.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Sounds horrible. Hate edibles.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Oh come on, man.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Fucking hate edibles.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Not usually my cup of tea either, but hell, these these ones uh did the trick. Edibles are usually pretty hit or miss for me.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Yeah, um yeah, I'm I'm not big on edibles. Um, but that's good. You had a good uh 420. Um, we're here to talk about uh the boys uh what's your 420 like? I mean it's just another day. I mean, I don't I I don't know. I never considered 420 a holiday, you know what I mean? Like Yeah, true. To me, to me, 420 is like is only a big deal the people who don't really smoke weed, you know what I mean? I get that, yeah. It's like an amateur thing. So I don't, I mean, it was another day. I mean, I worked, I mean, I got high and everything, but it was just another day. Um, but but you heard all talk about the boys, season five, episodes one through three, and then also talk about Daredo Born Again, season two, episode six. Um Chase. Start off with the boys. Um, episodes one through three. I've only uh full disclosure, I've only seen episode one, um, but it's been out for a few weeks now. So, you know, what did you think about episodes one through three? You know, spoiler alert for uh the boys and Daredevil. Um to me, I don't really if it's been like a week, to me, spoilers don't really matter. Um, but go ahead. What do you think about the boys so far?

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Yeah, no, so far they are cooking with gas. Uh the only real qualm I have with it is um we've had some mention of the Gen V crew, but we haven't seen them in action, and it's just been like brief mentions. I would like to see them uh become more involved in the story. Just because, you know, the way season two ended, they're working with Starlight already, and one of them has the potential to possibly end Homelander. So yeah, if y'all are really like that, let us go ahead and see it. That would be uh my one complaint with the season so far. But um, as far as episode one goes, love it. We get uh we get to catch up with our characters, see where they're at. We got our non-powered friends in a concentration camp, basically. Um Starlight is on the run. Kamiko was living a pretty calm life. And um I don't remember if it happens at the end of episode one or if it's in two, but clearly she throws that away. So um, as much as I love having her back in the show, I kind of hate that for her. Like, you didn't have to get back into this, but it is what it is, you know. She loves Frenchie, so here we are. But yeah, I'm loving uh talking Kimiko as well. That's been a wonderful addition.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Um, the Gin V thing. Um, I've seen Gin V season one, I haven't seen season two. Um I just think with this being the final season of the boys, they don't really want to add in too much other shit into it, you know. Just stick to the main big dogs would be my guess as to why probably not gonna see the Gen V people that often.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Why set up the the plot points, you know, if you're not gonna involve them a little more?

SPEAKER_00 4:22

I don't I mean, I mean, I don't know. Like I said, I haven't seen Gen V season two, so I don't know. Um, that's that's really the problem with these universes where you add in all these shows, you know. Um so yeah, I don't know. Um yeah, I've only seen episode one. Um the Kamiko thing is interesting. Like I thought it was cool, like I liked it, her talking, whatnot. I'm just curious as to how that's gonna be in future episodes, because you know, like her not talking was kind of like a part of her character. So I'm really curious to see how that's gonna progress as the season goes on. Um but it was cool to see her actually talk or whatever. Um the A-Train death.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Um Yeah, that shit was tough. I knew it was coming. I didn't think it would be the first episode, though.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

It was it was it was time. It was time. Yeah, I think it was time. I think it was necessary. Like, what else is there for his character to do? Like, I don't really think there's nothing else for him to add to this.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

I just think it was that uh the Quicksilver moment. I was thinking that would just come later in the in the season, you know?

SPEAKER_00 5:31

That's the thing, though. The show's been on for five seasons, and that's the first time he's done that. You know what I mean? So it's like I don't know. Like, I mean, I like A Train as a character. I just think his story's kind of like ran out. Like there's not much for him to add to it. Um I get you.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

They mostly uh like his uh redemption arc was pretty much wrapped up.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yeah, so it's like at that point you're just kind of keeping him around just to just because he's a main guy. So it's like I I was good with them killing him. Um and I liked it because you know it actually gave us some like some stakes for this season to where you know we're gonna see some really uh big characters die. So I was you know, I don't know, I was I was cool with it. Um right. I'm really curious to see who else is gonna die um as the season goes on.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Um in episode two, we do get a scare. Um so you know they're plotting to break Huey and Frenchie out and uh Mother's Milk. Homelander figures out the plan before uh they can put it into action. And yeah, because of the whole A Train situation, that played a part in it. But um, yeah, Billy and them plan to rescue them, middle of the night. Homelander's there, middle of the evening, like 5, 6 p.m., sun's still out, and he slaughters everyone in uh Huey's um dorm, I guess you could call it. So yeah, Huey walks back in after having a meeting, discussing the escape plan. And yeah, Homelander literally has the entire place covered in blood. And they do end up breaking out, but it was a lot of bullshit involved, you know. This man has the guards working for him, he's got some people with uh soup powers, basically another head popper, and yeah, they do make it out by the skin of their teeth. No one does die, but we we had some close calls.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Yeah, homework sounds a lot like uh Wilson Fisk.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Um a little bit, yeah. All right, funny that both these shows are dropping uh at the same time while uh the country of the United States is in the uh situation that it is in, because yeah, it's a lot of uh art imitating life going on right now in the superhero world.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

Yeah, and I'm not I'm gonna be honest, I'm not too crazy about it. Um like I guess I've only seen the first episodes, but like, man, bro, they're really digging deep into like this politics stuff. And with like Homelander being like Trump, like they're they're digging deep into it. Um I don't know. I'm just not I'm just not crazy about it. But I I did like the first episode, and I can't wait to see what else happens in this season. Um, any final boys' thoughts on the boys before we move on to uh Daredevil?

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Um I will just say you were um you were talking about Kimiko being um mute and how that was essential to her character. She's been the funniest person this season, not gonna lie. Like, freaky as hell, goofy as hell, talking shit. Like, she is yeah, I'm I'm so glad we got Kimiko talking.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Honestly, though, she's always pretty funny. Like, like even when she wasn't talking, she was funny, you know. Um, some of the humor on her character was you know funny, even when she wasn't talking.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Um very expressive.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Yeah, yeah. She's a she's a really good character. Um, all right, Jason. We're on to Daredevil season two, episode five, episode six. Um last week we were episode five. I was pretty open about that, being my least favorite episode. Um I enjoyed this one. We finally got Jessica Jones. Um, you know, we found out some stuff about her character. Um, you know, they're continuing on with this stuff with Matt. Pretty much, you know, he's pretty much doing like they're doing the Batman thing with Matt, where it's like you're letting, you know, Fisk and Bullseye live, and you're seeing like what it's doing to this city. You know, Karen, she went as far as to try to kill Bullseye this episode. Um and the episode ends with Karen getting she's she's either getting arrested or she's about to get shot by uh the task force. Um and we do see Matt and Fisk, you know, we see them fight for the first time in since since season three. Um but but yeah, Chase, what did you think about um this episode?

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Episode six was good. We got um, I feel like it was a nice quick aftermath to uh Vanessa dying to start the episode. We saw the impact it had on Fisk and the City. Um I liked the uh BB fake out. I was not expecting that.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

One thing, we were we we were off about that. Yeah, because it wasn't even a fake out, it was we were just wrong. Um so yeah, that's kind of one of the things you run into when you do these instant reaction episodes. If you're just getting through the episode, sometimes you're not able to see everything clearly after only watching it once. So yeah, uh, because it was the dude from the Northern Star or whatever. But uh, but go ahead, go ahead on with that.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah, um, but she's still in hot water, I feel like. Because we had the moment. Um they were at a gathering and she was talking to Daniel about his birthday or whatever, and bucking her ups. And um, I forget what she said, but he's just like journalist, right? And like looks at Daniel like, oh my god, like Buck knows what's up, man. He knows. So that's uh that's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, BB, she's my least favorite character on this show. Um really she's so dumb. Like she's like she's been working both sides the entire time, and like she was surprised when Daniel told her that he can't protect her anymore. And it's like and she was like shocked about it. And I'm like, how can you be shocked about this? Yeah, how can you be shocked about this? Like, like, like these motherfuckers killed your uncle for the same shit that you're doing. But the difference is that the difference is that your uncle was aware of what was going on, and your uncle he he kind of knew that he had a target on his back, and she's just so oblivious to it all.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Mm-hmm. I mean, hell, she's uh when you're chasing the dragon, you know, you you kind of lose focus of all the other shit around you. I feel like that's where she's at right now. Yeah, she wants to unearth this big scoop, but it's like bitch, you in danger.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Yeah, she's gonna get popped. Like, it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of when. Maybe she won't, who knows? Um, but what we said last week, I do think it's gonna end up happening because Buck kind of he kind of insinuated it about you know Daniel needing to take out BB. Um, he didn't directly he didn't directly say it, but he implied it. Um I think that's gonna end up happening. And just the prediction, I don't think Daniel's gonna be able to do it. And I think Daniel's gonna get popped.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

I could see that. Yeah, that's kind of how I see it playing out, too. Like, he's gonna end up telling her instead, because he's kind of been trying to hint at it, like you don't want to get close to this stuff. But like, now that it's really in front of his face, like, yo, kill her or I kill you. Yeah, he's gonna end up, yo, BB, we gotta get out of town, type shit, and he's gonna get popped before they can do it.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Yep. Yep. All right. Now, what do you think about the Jessica Jones stuff? Are you are you a Jessica Jones person?

SPEAKER_01 14:07

I am. I'm glad we finally got to see her halfway through the season. She's been alluded to a little bit in the first five episodes. But yeah, it was good to see her back in action.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

It was um like I love Kristen Ritter as an actress. I just never watched Jessica Jones. I I started it last year. I watched the first episode and I never went back to it. Not because I didn't think it wasn't. Yeah, um, and I don't know why I stopped watching it. Like I enjoyed it. I just I don't know, probably just got caught up with some other stuff I was watching. Um but I thought this was interesting. Um, if you noticed, you know, we do we did see her daughter in this episode. Um, did she have a daughter in her show?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

No, but her and Luke Cage got together like towards the end of it.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

So it's it's his it's his kid, you know. I mean, it's a it's a it's a biracial child. Um, so that was kind of an obvious tell. Um and Luke Cage is gonna be in the next season. Um I don't know if you've seen like I don't know if Marvel was mad at uh the actor that plays Luke Cage, but he posted a picture like of them filming on set, and in the picture, and in the picture, Matt Murdoch is wearing uh a prison jumpsuit. So by the end of the season, Matt's giving too much of a sneak peek, my guy. Hey, but by the end of the season, Matt's gonna end up in jail. So I don't I don't I'm I'm curious to see how we get to that point.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Um but what do you think about the uh the stuff with bullseye and Karen? Like, do you think do you think Karen should kill you think Matt should let Karen kill bullseye? I mean obviously he's not gonna let her, but are you more on Karen's side or Matt's side?

SPEAKER_01 16:10

See, I completely get where Karen's coming from. Like she is being a little OC, but at the same time, like it's all fully warranted, you know? Like this guy killed you guys' best friend, and now we're trying to be buddy buddy and rehabilitate him and shit. Like, nah, I don't we can do this without him. That's where she's coming from. But like, I also get where Matt's is coming from, like he really is on his Batman shit, you know. He's taking a vow, like, I'm not out here catching bodies. So even if this guy is an A1 piece of shit, I'm not gonna do that. And yeah, he's trying to keep uh Karen from jumping off that ledge, but I don't know how uh how long that's gonna last.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

I don't know. Um but yeah, I'm kind of with Matt though. Like, Bullseye is a strong motherfucker. Like, I would you need him, you know?

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Yeah, no, you definitely do, because they are uh shorthanded right now. Like you got Jesse Jones to help out in this episode, but she even said it on uh the rooftop or whatever, like I wasn't trying to get involved in this shit. So, like, who else you got? The swordsman nigga?

SPEAKER_00 17:38

That nigga's done.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

We're supposed to get uh the white tiger at some point, too. I don't know when that's going to happen. So um, yeah, no, I get where Matt's coming from too. All hands on deck, man.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Yeah, and like these task force niggas, they're kind of they're kind of like the cops on GTA. It's like no matter how many of them you kill, more will just keep popping up.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Yep. Um, you know, you've got five stars. The only thing you can do is get out of the area.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

And it's like, like I said, no matter how much you fuck them up, like they're gonna keep coming back.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Um, you know, but let me ask you about the ending of this episode, Chase. You know, we see Karen, she she takes off her mask thing when she's out there at the little protest riot thing, and uh, you know, Powell, he finds her and you know, he points his gun at her and she put she raises her hands up. What do you think is gonna happen next episode? Is she gonna is this the end of Karen, or do you think we will uh see her in prison?

SPEAKER_01 18:36

I think she gets uh arrested, captured. I feel like she's too central of a character to be killing off. We um like he already lost Foggy, and then like we see it with these current seasons this one in the past one. Yeah, the remaining uh cast is the people largely involved with Kingpin and um uh White Tiger Shorty. So it's like you can't kill off Karen right now just because she's too central to the plot, and Matt doesn't have a whole lot of allies to be killing her off.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Yeah, I don't know, bro. Like, if Pal's the guy he's supposed to be, Karen should be dead. Um yeah. Now obviously, plot armor, who knows? You know, Karen, she's dodged death a bunch of times in this show. Um, so who knows, but I don't know, man. I just think like if Matt ends up going to jail, like what's gonna happen with Karen? Like, I don't really kind of similar to the stuff with A train. Like, I don't really know what I mean. Obviously, Matt and Karen are kind of like dating now, but I don't really, I don't know. I don't kind of need something to happen with her to where we get like a new. I don't know. It's gonna be hard with the current season the way it is right now. I just don't really know what Karen's gonna bring to the next season.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah, I get that. Because I mean she's been training, but I don't see her really getting out here on the vigilante hero shit. She won't be going on missions with Matt.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

I'm gonna stop watching if that happens. If she like turns into Black Widow, like I think I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Well, no, like Matt wouldn't allow her to do that. Like, he would never get on board with that shit. So even if she did it behind his back, like I don't think she's like that enough, or at least from what they've shown us, she can handle firearms, looks like she's been hitting the punching bag a bit, but like, yeah, you ain't gonna be out here fighting the task force.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

We did hear that one episode. You say what? We did hear that one episode get active with that one task force guy that she kidnapped or whatever. Um yeah, we didn't see that, which I thought that was kind of cringe, but you know, I mean, whatever. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Hey, she's pissed, man.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Hey, I get it. Um I'm curious what happens with Fisk now, now that Vanessa's gone. Um like is he dude, him killing the doctor, that him killing the doctor was wild, bro. I mean, I knew it was gonna happen, but that was wild.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

It's uh I feel like he was on some calm before the storm shit with this episode. He uh he has that moment, but outside of that, it was a lot of him grieving and just making sure. That motherfuckers get found.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Him killing a nigga with a bear hug goes crazy. Like.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

I mean, hey, we saw what he did uh to the commissioner head.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Like, would you rather have that happen or uh get bear hugged to death?

SPEAKER_01 22:15

I feel like the head's gotta be uh like yes, it would suck worse, but at the same time, like I feel like it would hurt or it would be over quicker, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 22:28

And like at least that nigga knew he was gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Um you seen it coming.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

This doctor, he was just trying to be nice, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Nah, yeah, that shit was fucked.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Yeah, Fisk is wild. Fisk is wild. All right, um, but yeah, that's Daredevil Born Again, season two, episode six. Chase, let's talk about Doomsday real quick. Um, you know, CinemaCon was last week, you know, the trailer debuted there. Trailer still isn't out uh for us to watch yet. I'm kind of I'm excited to see it. Um but Chase, you know, some of the stuff that happened in this trailer, you know, we see Thor fighting Dr. Doom, we see Thor reunite with Steve Rogers. Um, and apparently and apparently Steve Rogers is back to wielding Milnir in this movie. Um some other stuff. Um, we see Professor X watching an incursion, we see Mystique fighting Yelena, and Mystique turning into Yelena, and then also we see Shang Chi fighting the old boy Gambit, Channing Tatum's Gambit is back. Um, just from some of the stuff you've heard, what do you what do you I don't know, what do you what do you make of this?

SPEAKER_01 23:43

So I'm liking it from a matchup perspective. I feel like we have some uh fun and also entertaining fights to come our way. Um it's gonna be dope having Steve back. I I feel bad for the MCU that they have to like keep pulling on their OGs because hell, even um Robert Downey is back in this bitch. He's not Iron Man, but still. So it's like it's funny how obvious it is that they even know. Like, this is how we keep this uh gravy train floating.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

I had to, man. These new niggas weren't working. It is what it is. It sucks, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

I wouldn't even say they weren't working, they just needed to draw better plots to maintain the continuity, you know? Like, Shang-Chi's kind of been in limbo since his movie came out. Like, yes, it's one of the newer ones, but that was one at this point, it's not a newer one.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

At this point, it's not a newer one, though. It was five years ago, yeah. You know? Um, but I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Like Doctor Strange, what's going on with him? Hell, like just a lot of weird decisions since um Endgame.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

Um, I don't know if this is true, but I did see a thing to where Doctor Strange is gonna be a villain in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

That he's he's working with Doom. Um, I mean, I don't know if that's true, that's just what I had read somewhere. Um Okay. So yeah, interesting. Yeah. Um, that will be interesting because obviously last time we saw Strange, the end of Doctor Strange 2, he had the third eye. Um so so yeah, I'm curious to see how that goes. Um, but no, man, like I do like that they're they're going in with the X-Men stuff. Like, this is gonna be the last time for the old motherfuckers. Um, so yeah, let's give them one last time out there. Um the gambit thing is interesting to me because like like I wonder if it's gonna be the same gambit from Deadpool and Wolverine. Like, I kinda like tone-wise, I don't really think that gambit's gonna work in a movie like this. Um, but who knows?

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Yeah. No, yeah. I would like him to be uh you can still be the comedic relief, but like uh still lock in.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah, I mean he was locked in in Deadpool and Wolverine, but there was just like way too many, too many jokes. Um, you know. Um, but no, I mean I'm excited for the movie. Um apparently in the trailer, Thor is the one talking during most of the trailer, which I just find interesting because I just kind of assumed Thor wasn't gonna be like a main character in this movie, but it seems like he is. Yeah, seems like he's back, our boy's back.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Hey shit. I'm cool with it because he hell, he's the last of uh OG Avengers. I mean, Hulk's still around. But like, yeah. What's he been up to since uh Love and Thunder?

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Uh apparently he does still have the uh his daughter with him. He's remember he had the little girl.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Um apparently in this bitch too.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Yeah, I'd heard she is in the movie. Um which I don't know. I actually rewatched Love and Thunder the other day, bro. That shit's so bad, man. That shit is so bad.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Um man, what you got against uh Gorm. Gore uh Gore Gorn.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

You can't you can't call someone the god butcher and then show them killing no gods. Like I'm sorry. It just Yeah. They did Christian Bell dirty because I think Christian Bell was really good in that movie, but it's just it was just the wrong movie. Um yeah, it was just the wrong, it was the wrong fucking movie. Um but nah, I'm excited for it. Um chase also with this Avengers Endgame is getting re-released in September. Um and apparently the ending of it is going to be changed to go along with Doomsday. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01 28:12

That's intriguing, but I'm wondering how they change it up, you know? Like is it just gonna be uh the cutscene at the end of the movie, or is it gonna be like something in endgame, like um the snap happens, but before that we see Doom pop in and make some type of statement, you know, like what uh uh yeah, no, this is intriguing.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

From what I understand, it's it's uh it's gonna be the uh the the funeral scene. Um because the plot of Doomsday is that when Steve went back in time to go be with Peggy, that caused a bunch of incursions. Um so my guess is something in that scene where it shows like him going back in time, something maybe it'll show something different about maybe it'll show like an incursion starting or something like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Um he goes back and then um you see him on the bench, he's an old man with Sam, and Doom's just there, like ah yeah, you fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

I don't think it'd be done like that. Um, I don't I mean, I wouldn't think so. That would be weird to introduce Doom in like a re-release of a movie that came out seven years ago. That'd be a so I don't think they'll actually do that, but apparently, you know, something will be changed in the end during the uh funeral scene. Um okay. So I mean, so that's cool. Um yeah, all right, Chase, before we get out of here. Um, have you been keeping up with Invincible?

SPEAKER_01 29:50

I have.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

You want to talk about that real quick?

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Yeah, so um last episode, last two episodes, shit, we've uh uh basically had the war with the Viltromites and uh in this most recent one Thaitus, Thaddeus, however you pronounce his name, Omni Man and uh Mark end up destroying Viltram with um the help of the rest of their uh republic. But um at the cost of Oliver and Nolan uh getting fucked up. Uh Oliver survives, but this man lost an arm, lost his jaw. Omni Man, he's in rougher shape, so we're gonna have to see if he pulls through. He's in the same situation uh Mark was in uh a couple episodes ago, basically. So yeah, shit's looking uh pretty fucked for our guys. The Viltramites took some L's too. So yeah. It's not looking great for our guys, but the Viltramites are also backing off.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

So how was it with Mark meeting back up with his dad? Um, how was that kind of was that an awkward scene?

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Yeah, it's been rough. Um Mark's taking it better than Oliver has been or his mom. There was um back when they were on Earth, I think it was episode two or three. Yeah, um, where Debbie's in the kitchen talking to Noah. He tries to apologize, but she's like, There is no apology. Like you can never change or fix what you did. And Omni Man promised he would spend the rest of his life uh trying to. So yeah. She wasn't uh very happy with him. Mark is being cordial. Oliver was pretty pissed because when uh Omni Man came back, he said he didn't care about um Oliver's actual mom, uh the Grasshopper Shorty. I'm blanking on her name right now. So yeah, Oliver was uh on some angsty teen. I hate my dad shit. But there's an episode where they run into conquest in space, disembowels Mark, fucks him up, gorgeous shit, that they've probably done in the series, and they're just stranded on a planet, Omni Man, Oliver, and Mark. Conquest dies or is dead. And um, yeah, while Mark is recovering for a couple weeks, maybe a month or two, Oliver and Omni Man get to train in and they start to connect and bond. So that was a really cool episode. I'm glad they got to have that moment. And it gets to the point where once they do actually go to face the Viltramites, they're all three of them are locked in. Like Oliver and Mark are taking advice from him. They're uh conducting strategies and shit, you know, where he's heavily involved. And um, yeah, in this most recent episode, Oliver um, we think he dies. Like, it looked bad. He tries to go up against uh Thrag, the strongest Viltromite, who, by the way, is a fucking demon. This man made Omni Man look like a fucking child. Like, punch that man into back into space, bro. And like when he got back into space, he was still flying. Like the the lack of gravity did not slow him down. It was that shit was insane. But yeah, Thrag uh rips off Oliver's jaw, rips one of his arms off. I definitely thought Lil Bro was dead, but um, while that's going on, Omni Man and Mark and uh Thaddeus work together to destroy Viltrum, causing Thrag and the rest of them to retreat, the rest of the survived surviving Viltrumites. And um, yeah, before they do, Omni Man takes a serious blow. And Mark was definitely devastated when that shit happened. Tries to fight Thrag himself, but he instantly gets packed up. I thought he was gonna get um Commissioner Gordon, bro. That's the way it was looking, bro. Was literally had Mark's head in his hands and decided not to at the last minute. So yeah, major L's for um the Grayson family.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah, hell yeah. That's Invincible season four. All right, Chase. About to get out of here, man. But I'm I'm going to watch the movie Michael tomorrow night. Uh true. Yeah, I'm worried. Um why is that 27% on Rotten Tomatoes? It's uh not ideal. That's rough. Not ideal. Um, but obviously, you know, I like to form my own opinion, so I'll watch the movie and you know, see. Um, but I'm not I'm not a music biopic guy, so I'm not necessarily looking forward to it. Um but yeah, I I don't know. Reviews are bad though, it's not looking good for our boy Mike.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Hey man, let uh let the movie do the talking. Fuck what the haters say.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Yeah, we shall see. Um, like I said, I'm probably a hater though, because like I don't I don't fuck with music biopics at all. And I mean like like Oh, it's supposed to be like a musical? No, it's a it's a music biopic.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

No, it's not a musical. I don't think it's a musical. Um but yeah, we got that going on, so we'll see how that goes. Um also got Euphoria season three. You know, it's not doing too great so far. I'm not crazy about that.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I'm good on euphoria.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Uh why?

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Nothing against Zendaya or um the rest of that cast, but like I don't know. I feel like they took some weird uh directions in uh season two, and then also just the amount of time it's been since season two. It's like I've lost my uh my passion for the show.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

See, I don't know, I I I have a hard time with that because there's so many stuff that takes so long for a new season or an or a sequel, and I'm just like, are you gonna feel that way about like the Batman part two? Because the time amount of time will be about the same as Euphoria.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Well no, I still have interest in that um in that world.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. I don't know. I just feel like they're it's it's it's it's a different show now, but thankfully it's the last season because like Zendaya and Jacob Alorty and Sydney Sweeney are way too famous for the show anymore. Like these are like the biggest stars in the world. Um like they're bigger than the show now. Um, but either way, um, we'll see how it goes. I'm I'm excited to keep watching though, but that's all we got for today on the I know podcast. Uh Chase, I'll see you next week. The show, bro.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Love. Way to y'all.