'The Bear' Surprise Episode, 'Michael', & 'Daredevil: Born Again' Finale

The brothers are back! Today we talk about the surprising 'Gary' episode from 'The Bear'. After that Chase catches up on some reviews for 'Michael' and the finale to 'Daredevil: Born Again'.

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SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello world, this is I'm the podcast. Today is Sunday, May 10th, 2026. This is from the television podcast. We're talking about from the television. And it's Caleb Chase. What up?

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Doing good, bruh. How about you?

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Doing great. Happy Mother's Day to all the ladies out there.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Happy yeah. Happy Mother's Day to all ladies out there. Um, Chase, we're here to talk about Gary. This is a uh a random episode of the Bear that dropped earlier this week. Um featuring Ibon Moss Bach Rock as Richie and John Bernthal as Mikey. Um Chase, what'd you think about this, man? This shit kind of came out of nowhere. I remember when I sent you a picture of it, you were wondering, like, what the hell is this?

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Um, I had no idea this was uh in production, in play. Did not know we were getting a special from the bear, but I loved it, man. I uh I like um prequel type things, you know, that sort of set up the universe that we're in. So this was it was dope to get a Mikey episode. I wish we got more of them in the actual series.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Yeah, this shit was amazing. I didn't see it coming either, bro. It literally just came out of nowhere. Um, the shit was written by uh, you know, our two leads, uh Ebon Ebon and uh John Bernthal. Um go Brazy. But no, man, we talked about it before. I don't I don't fuck with filler episodes, and to me, this would be a filler episode if it dropped in the middle of a season, and I and I probably wouldn't like it as much. Um, but yeah, I mean, I I I enjoyed this. Um, I kind of wish TV shows would do more of this type thing where they just drop shit in there randomly on you. Um but yeah, I mean I I fucked with it. Um I don't think this is gonna be like the norm for shows because to me this is one of those things that's like super easy to do. Because when you think about it, this entire episode takes place in what three locations in the car, in a bar, and in a diner. Um so yeah, I mean, I'm sure this is like super easy and super cheap to uh film. So uh, so yeah, I fucked with it though, man. I fucked with it.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Same. Like we always hear about Mikey, and you know, we've heard a mixed bag. Like he's we've seen good moments and uh people speaking of him fondly, but he was also a troubled guy, and we see a bit of it here, like full on, in a way that we haven't really seen in the actual series. So it was um very dope of them to flesh out his character a bit more.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

Yeah, man. I I'm gonna be honest, bro. Like it was amazing, but man, like the shit with him in the bathroom, that shit was tough to watch. Um that shit was tough because like in John Bernthal, he's so good, man. Like, you could just see it in his facial expressions that like he was like transforming into a completely different person. And then obviously, when he gets out of the bathroom and him and Richie have their little fight in the bar, that that's when he completely crashes out. Um But nah man, this shit was uh this shit was hella good. Um, but yeah, his little conversation with this Sherry girl in the bathroom, like first off, I like when I like when shows or movies like they're doing something, but you really don't know what's gonna happen next. Like when he went in the bathroom, like when he went in the bathroom with her, I didn't know what was gonna happen next. Like at first I was like, are they gonna are they gonna have sex? And then you know, it kind of seemed like no, they weren't. And then you know, he starts doing drugs and stuff, and she's just like went skiing. Yeah, yeah. And she's just like listening to him and consoling them. Um, so yeah. I like I enjoyed it. I thought it was really good, but man, that show was tough to watch.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I am that's that's some uh peak television right there. They really are conveying like the emotions being felt in them scenes. So yeah, kudos to uh Brenthal and Sherry.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Yeah, shout out to them. Um, and like I don't know anyone personally, or I've never been around anyone that's uh committed suicide or whatever, but like you know, from the outside looking in, I think that that that that seems like a like a good depiction of how somebody would act before something like that would happen.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

Yeah, like you never fully know.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

You never know what someone's going through, and then towards the end with him and Richie in the bar fighting and arguing, like like technically he's talking to Richie, but I kind of feel like Mikey was like talking to himself.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Um, you know, that was also a tough scene to watch.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Yeah, it was. I f I did feel like it dragged on a little too long. Like this, I'm like, yo, this shit is super like fucking awkward. But uh shout out to those guys, man. They did a good job of conveying all that crap.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah. Even Richie was like, come on, man, like, why you keep doing this?

SPEAKER_00 5:32

What you think about the end though? Because it shows them in the car on the end, and then it just and then it just goes to Richie just sitting in the car by himself, and then you know, he gets hit. Like, do you think that was part of the do you think that was like a current thing that happened, or do you think that was part of you know the aftermath of him and Mikey, like right after that?

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Yeah, I was thinking like that's him. He just dropped Mikey off, and um, he had that whole thing with his girl. Like, this is him when like him and his girl are still together. So he's doing his best to be like a stand-up guy. I'm gonna be back by 5.15. 515. Like he mentions it multiple times throughout the episode, and then like because of you know, their shenanigans, they start doing drugs, having fun, going to the bar and shit like that. The day gets away from him. Mikey is doing his thing in the bathroom. It's nighttime now. He finally gets back to the shy, and it's like, fuck, I'm probably like four or five hours late. Who knows what time it was? And yeah, as he's trying to speed home or whatever, instantly gets into a wreck. And it's like, yeah, this man can't catch a break today. Like, bad things happen to good people, type shit.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Um, there's part of me that thinks that was like a that was like a current thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Um as in real life, like a real timeline.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Yeah, like season like yeah, like like something that happened in season five that happened in season five.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Gotcha, okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Because I couldn't completely tell, but it kind of looked like he was wearing a suit. Um when he gets in the car wreck, and I mean he obviously wears suits now in the curb with the restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

And also he was wearing when I didn't notice. I didn't beat that.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

And also, like, with it being a like, I don't really understand like what's the point of showing us like just some random car crash if it's not gonna, you know. I mean, I don't know, who knows? It's like he's never I don't think I ever heard him mention this or anything. So I mean, I don't know. It's it was just kind of it was just kind of weird. Um and then also, and then also like he looks he there's a there's a brief point where he looks at the seat right next to him, and to me that was just kind of one of those things where it's like, you know, oh this is where this is where Mikey would be at if he was still here. Um so I mean I I mean I don't know. It was just kind of it was just a little weird, and I don't really fully understand what what was up with that.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

I mean, wanted to end episode on a climax, you know. Uh wanted to strike one last chord to end the episode on, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

No, I get it. It's just it's just hard to decipher as far as like you know, is that happening in real time, or was that also like a flashback type thing?

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to go back and rewatch that.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Yeah, I actually just re-watched it. And like you can't completely tell it's a suit, but to me, it does seem like he's wearing something different than he was when he was with Mikey during uh the entire so I mean I don't yeah, I I don't know. Um yeah, I'm not sure. Um but yeah, that's Gary for you. Speaking of Gary, Gary, Indiana, the home of Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Nice segue.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

The home of Michael Jackson. Chase, I already talked about Michael on here. You haven't talked about it yet. Uh, you've seen Michael. Um, what did you think about the movie?

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Michael was good, man. His nephew killed it as him. Uh like not that I was hating, but I was not expecting him to nail like the role, you know? Like, I've never seen him act before, let alone like to be playing a historical figure, you know. And yeah, no, he did his thing. Uh salute to the cast all around. Neilong was great as a mom. Um the dad was everyone.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Coleman Domingo.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah, Coleman Domingo snapped with his shit. Yeah, I feel like they did a really good job of depicting him, and um you kind of get an understanding of why he was like kind of childlike, even though he was an adult, you know? Like he never really got to experience a childhood, and yeah, it put it put a lot of the pieces into place.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Uh this movie sucks. I will say though, nothing you said was wrong. Like the performances were great. Um, like he looked like Michael, he sounded like Michael, he danced like him, he sang like he like he nailed it. He was he was great, Coleman Domingo, great, Neilong, great. Um Miles Teller, bro. I don't know what was up with that wig, but that shit looked terrible. Um yeah, I don't know. Like the music stuff, the music stuff was amazing, but like just story-wise, bro, there just wasn't a story. Um because like this like I know it only goes up to 1988, but there's so much stuff that's still missing in this.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Um yeah, no, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Like, like, I'm sorry, bro. Like, I'm not the I'm not a Michael Jackson historian, but I feel like with him being the most famous person in the world, at some point he had to have like a girlfriend or bitches, and we did we just we literally never see him with any type of friends. We never see him with a girlfriend or anything. Like, I just find it hard to believe that Michael Jackson like just spent his entire free time just sitting in his room playing with monkeys and you know, or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Like, I I refuse to believe that this is a grown-ass kid, man.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

I get it, bro. But it's Michael Jackson, like like I feel like in like like I mean I'd have to do the research, but I'm sure during that point in time he at least had a girlfriend at some point in time.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

I get that.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Um, so yeah, that was off. Um the stuff like I just I like the fact that like his brothers were just like they just weren't in this shit. Like, like they were like background, they were like background noise. Um and I mean I know she refused to be in the movie, but the lack of Janet Jackson is just hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Um that shit was crazy to me too. Because it's like I get if she doesn't want to be a part of it, but you just completely blanking her out like she wasn't around. Like, at least give a name drop or something, like, oh yeah, the boys uh Latoya and Janet are going here or whatever, you know?

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Like it I don't even need I don't even need a name drop. They could have at least like like had like they could have at least like shown like Nia Long being pregnant or something with a daughter or something like that. You only got a name dropper, you know?

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Right, just say like uh your sisters something like nothing to I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Like I'm I'll I'll say this though, like we had some early access, like screening to the movie. Um, and this the theater was packed, bro. It was jumping. Like, I'm beyond, I'm be honest, bro. I haven't seen this many niggas show up to a movie since Black Panther. Um so like the experience of it, I'll be honest, the experience of it was amazing. Like the performances were great.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Like people it was a pretty packed crowd when I went too, yeah, weeks after it released.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like like people were standing and applauding and singing and dancing and stuff. So, like, like I feel like the experience was better than the actual movie. Um, but I mean it's I'm I'm I'm never gonna watch it again, you know. I mean, it I mean, you know, uh, I was never the biggest Michael Jackson fan, anyways. Um, but the performance.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

I gotta lie, this movie made me appreciate him uh a bit more. Like I like his uh he's got some hits.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Of course, for sure. I mean, music-wise, you know, he's the GOAT. Um I just, you know, I don't know. I'm just from a different I don't know. I just didn't grow up listening to Michael Jackson. Um but um like I said, the experience of it was great. I just didn't I just didn't think the movie was that good. Um there's just there's just really like no story at all. Um but I mean this movie's making a shit ton of money. It's doing what it was supposed to do. And it seems like people it seems like people really fuck with it. So I mean that's good.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, I was honestly surprised by how much I liked it seeing like seeing the reviews going into it. Like I remember seeing it had like a it was below 50 on Rotten Tomatoes for a minute. I don't know if it still is, but yeah, it was kind of a pleasant surprise.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Yep. Um, it's hold on. Yeah, it's a it has a 39% critic score, but it has a 97% audience score. So that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

But yeah, so that's definitely one of the wider swings.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Yeah, so like that should tell you that should pretty much tell you everything you need to know. Like, you know, the people the people who are fans of Michael Jackson love the movie, but you know, the I don't know. I probably I I'd side more with the critics because I just don't think it's that good of a movie, but I mean it's like it, like I said, it's an ex-like it was entertaining as hell. Um I wasn't really bored at any point in time. Um and you know, I learned some stuff that I didn't know about all this stuff, so so yeah. It's not the worst movie I've seen this year. It's not the worst movie I've seen this year. Um the worst movie I've seen this year, Chase, is a movie called Apex.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Um I vaguely remember hearing about this when it first came out, but couldn't tell you what it's about.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

It's on it's on Netflix. Um I'm gonna go ahead and throw up a spoiler alert real quick for Apex. Um there's a movie, there's there's this lady played by Charlize Turon. Her and her husband, they're like, um, they're like these adventure seeking type people. Um yeah. The opening scene is them like climbing like Mount Everest or some shit like that. They're climbing some they're climbing some big snowy ass mountain. Um one thing leads to another. The husband falls off a cliff and dies. Um you know, the Charlie's the wife, the Charlie's their own character. She goes to Australia doing some type of adventure-seeking thing. Um, and uh uh she gets hunted. Um and with a movie called Apex, I immediately just think, you know, we're dealing with some type of like wild animal or something.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

That was what I'm that was what I went into it thinking. Um but the apex predator ends up being uh Taryn Edgerton with this terrible Australian accent. Um yeah, he he like he like kidnaps he like kidnaps women and like kills them and keeps them in this cave. It's it's super fucking weird. Um yeah, that was the worst movie I've seen this year. Mainly because I just wasn't expecting Terran Edgerton to be the hunter, which you know it was super it was super rare.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

You like him as a villain?

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Uh not really. I mean I don't I like Terran Edgerton, but uh no, it didn't it didn't work. It didn't work for me.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Um all roles can't be hits, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yes, all roles can't be hits. Alright, Chase, or yeah, or actually, let's go to Daredevil real quick, Chase. What did you think about the finale? We haven't talked about this yet.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, finale was crazy, man. From uh Daniel getting got RIP. Actually, no, he was kind of on some other shit. Like, he's a real one for not selling out BB, but throughout the uh the first two seasons, like yo, you can get out of this. You don't need to be to go in this deep, this hard, or whatever for uh Kingpin. But um, yeah, I I am sad to see his character go. But um, yeah, this nigga Kingpin, bro. Fucking brute, just a Neanderthal, like I had a feeling there was gonna be a fight, but I had no idea this man would not actually fight Daredevil. He fought Daredevils, but not the actual one. And yeah, this motherfucker was in straight carnage mode, like ain't no way he's not some type of super human, you know?

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Um I I I I like I like the episode, man. To me, this season was better than the last season. Um I'm excited for uh I'm excited for season three. Um I am kind of happy we're gonna deal with some new villains now, now that Kingpin's kind of temporarily out of the picture. Um and then also we saw we saw Dex get on the plane with uh Mr. Charles. I'm really curious to see.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah, that's gonna be interesting as well. Yeah. You know if we get to bowl him overseas wherever he's gonna end up.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Honestly, I could see him pop up in something different. Um is like I mean, this won't happen now because now that they're the new Avengers, but I think he would have been a perfect like addition of like the Thunderbolts.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Um yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Like if he replaced, like if he replaced like Taskmaster or whatever. Um but I don't but him as an I don't think I don't I don't think he would uh who knows? He might be allowed in the Avengers. I mean Yelena has done some terrible stuff too, so I mean who knows?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

I mean shit, we got uh Captain America who actually killed people.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Yeah, um I don't know. I do hope Dex sticks around though, because my favorite scenes were the ones where he was involved. So I hope I I do hope he pops back up in season three or something like that. Um what'd you think about Luke Cage showing up at the end?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Uh I'm glad we did get to see him. I was uh disappointed by the lack of Jessica Jones, but you know, she eventually did become a bit more centered in the story. But um yeah, it's good that we actually got to see Luke Cage in this, because I wasn't sure that we were. The way things were looking.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah, the Jessica Jones thing is interesting. Um, I don't know, man. It kind of feels like they didn't know what to do with her in this. Um, yeah. Because you think about it, like every time we've seen her, she was kind of she was pretty much just like either giving mad advice or like just being a support system. And I'm not all that familiar with Jessica Jones because I don't watch the show, but to me that doesn't feel like the character, um, just from what I know. Um so yeah, I I don't know. Hopefully they have a better. I mean, obviously, like Luke Cage and Iron Fist are coming back in season three, so hopefully they have a better plan for uh for all those characters.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Yeah. I would like to see uh Luke Cage and honestly, just yeah, him having more heroes. It'll be dope to see um white tiger shorty get more active. Hopefully that is playing a role in the next season. But yeah, let's get some of these other uh defenders Papel's Kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Yep, yep, yep. That's Daredevil Chase. Where are you at with the boys? Um, what episode are you on now?

SPEAKER_01 21:46

I'm fully caught up.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Alright. What do you think, man? Or what do you think was where we're at at this point?

SPEAKER_01 21:53

This most recent episode was crazy, man, because I had a feeling that. Shit would go south. I was not aware that it would be um soldier boy just handing over the serum. This man talking about I love her more than I hate you, and really did that ship like bro. Like they're they gotta be fucked at this point, right? Like I'm not expecting a happy ending for us.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Yeah, I'm not I'm not fully caught up on it yet, but um, I'm gonna get there. But Chase, did you see that um the finale for uh The Boys is gonna be released in theaters?

SPEAKER_01 22:38

You serious? Yeah, I'm not surprised by that, just seeing how uh like Stranger Things, if um we get more like cult classic type TV shows, yeah, I could see this becoming more of a thing. Like, oh, they probably would have if they had the idea to do this, this would have been perfect for Breaking Bad, The Wire, fucking uh Game of Thrones, you know.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

All right, speaking of which, give me one show you would have like the saw of season finale in theater.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Um I probably would have been disappointed for Game of Thrones just because like that show had such a I was late to the party, but it definitely had a meteoric rise. Like it was already a meme and shit before I really got into it. But um, yeah, being in tune with that as it was going on for like the last three, four seasons was some of the dopest uh experience, just hopping on Twitter or Reddit afterwards and just seeing everyone else's thoughts and ideas about like you know, plot points and shit like that. And um, yeah, the final season of Game of Thrones gets hated on, which deservedly so. They made a bunch of weird writing decisions, assassinated some characters, character, um, yeah, just a bunch of weird decisions, but I I would have enjoyed seeing that in theaters.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Isn't that regarded as like one of the worst finales ever, though?

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

No, it gets a lot of heat, but at the same time, just for like the the cultural phenomenon moment, you know. Like I would have walked out the theater mad as fuck, like, yo, what the hell? But so would the entire rest of the theater. Like, I feel like uh it would have made it would have made it more funny the way that it ended.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for mine, what were you saying?

SPEAKER_01 24:59

What about you?

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Uh for mine, it's it's probably gonna be succession. Um now I'm talking in hindsight since I've already seen the finale, obviously. Um The Wire is my favorite show, but going into the finale, there wasn't like a whole lot of like tension or conflict. Like, obviously, you want to see how it ends, but like there wasn't like any like big reveal or anything we were waiting on with the wire. Kind of the same with Sopranos, too. Um, but with Succession, you know, it's it was pretty much it went they went down to the end wondering like you know which one of the kids is gonna take over the comp take over the business or whatever. And like the ending of that show is like it's it's it's just it's just it's just a big fucking deal what ends up happening. So I I'd probably say that one. Um but I don't I'm not all I don't know. Like who knows how I wonder I wonder if it's gonna like make any money with the boys being in theaters like that. Like I wonder how much people actually care about the boys.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I feel like it's a big enough like it's big enough that they had the idea to do it, you know? So um yeah, I I think it'll draw like a decent uh box office. I don't know how long or how many theaters it's gonna be in, but yeah, I feel like it'll be uh a good investment on their part.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Alright, Chase. Um anything else you've been watching? How's the anime treating you?

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Anime's been good. We've got uh Dr. Stone has been cooking. They're uh still on their race getting to the moon. I think we're gonna be hidden there in the next episode or two. Golden Kami final season just dropped, and um I basically binge that in like two days, or at least the first half of the final season. The remaining 12 episodes will be dropping sometime this winter. But yeah, that's um I forgot how much I love that show. It's one where I wasn't really familiar with it going into it, and was not expecting to fall in love with the story and the universe as much as I did. Got one of the most psychotic and memorable villains in anime with uh Lieutenant Tsurumi. Uh I love both of our main characters and their supporting cast, all the people they've uh met along the way and their travels. And yeah, I'm really excited to see how this shit ends. Because the way uh the first half of the season ended, like the finale. Yeah, shit's looking kind of fucked. So hoping this is gonna be one of them ones where uh we get a somewhat happy ending.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yeah. Hell yeah. I really been watching nothing new. Um what's what I was gonna say. Yeah, I really watch nothing new, man. I've been locked up, I've been locked in just watching these playoffs, you know? Um true. Yeah, Timberwolves tied it up tonight. 2-2.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Go crazy. I saw that man uh Victor got ejected.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

That was bad. That was real bad.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

He's an emotional guy, but yeah, you gotta keep your shit in check a little better than that, Vic.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

That was insane. He fucked up my parlay. But yeah, that was insane. Damn. Yeah, but that was insane. Alright, but that's all we got here for today on the podcast. Um, Chase, the Punisher, One Last Kills coming out on Tuesday. You excited for that?

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Hell yeah. It'll be good to see some more Burn Thaw.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Yes. You know, we just saw him with Gary. You're gonna see him again. And then we'll see him. Oh, before we go, have you seen the trailer for the Odyssey yet? Nah. All right, I don't man, we don't have to talk about it now if you haven't seen it, man. But the criticism is crazy right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Actually, I think no, they showed it at the beginning of Michael when I went to see it.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

What'd you think?

SPEAKER_01 29:34

I mean, from what I remember, which isn't much, I thought it was solid.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

I'm still intrigued just because I like the story, but see, I I don't know the story, but I'm intrigued because it's Christopher Nolan and because of the cast. Um, but people have been complaining that you know how everyone has an American accent. Um yeah. And then also some of the dialogue. Like I've been seeing people crying, saying that uh complaining about Tom Holland using the word uh dad instead of father. Um do you think do you think that's a good criticism for this or what?

SPEAKER_01 30:09

I mean, yeah, I feel like that's pretty accurate, because um we've seen this with some of these other like older um either Greek mythology like Troy or um like some of these biblical books like uh Noah, you know, they made a movie of that a couple years ago, where yeah, the historical depictions are do not align. And I completely get people's uh hating on that, because yeah, if you're gonna show a different culture or whatever, don't just whitewash it, you know, or modernize it to make uh viewers feel more comfortable. Like throw a thou in there every now and again, or whatever they were saying in ancient Greek history, you know. So yeah, saying dad instead of father, or some variation of papa baba, you know. Yeah, I I get that.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

I'm gonna be honest, I I just I just don't give a fuck, man. Like, I just don't care.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

Um maybe I'm still gonna watch the movie, but I understand the criticism.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Like, I just don't care. Like it reminds me of the criticism with uh with Gladiator 2. Like I remember people people bitching.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I have not seen that, but yeah, that would be another one.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

That movie sucks. But people were bitching about people bitching about Denzel, like just using his Denzel voice. I'm like, bro, like who gives a fuck, man? Like the movie sucked with or without Denzel changing his voice. Um yeah, and I don't know, like I mean, like Christopher Nolan is British. So I mean, if he wanted to, he could have just told Tom Holland or Art Patton to use their British accents.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Um Right, just speak naturally.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Yeah, so clearly, I mean, clearly it's something he thought about because I mean he is British. You know what I mean? So um so yeah, I don't know. I don't have a problem with it, but I'll I'm also not familiar with the story or all any of this crap.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

So you know I'm I mean it's basically like um like Hercules. His dad is a god, his mom was a human, and he's supposed to be a great warrior. But yeah, there's there's a lot more complicated shit that goes along with it, but that's the gist.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Hey, I'm excited for the movie. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Hell yeah, same here.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

That's all I know. But that's all we got for today. Me and Chase will uh we'll be we'll be back later this week so we can talk about Punisher One Last Kill. Chase, um, have a have a great night, man.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

You too. Later, y'all.