Beards on the Street
Parry Ward and Aaron Pehrson, two Real Estate agents in Salt Lake City, Utah, with a team at Century 21 Everest called "The Luxury Agency". Beards on the Street is two seasoned agents chatting about Life Experiences, Love, Family, Friends and of course the Utah Real Estate Market conditions. Parry and Aaron primarily focus on a system coined "My Top 50" based around showing up for the people in there sphere consistently and with purpose.
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Beards On The Street - Episode 55 - Wellness Innovations and Transformative Therapies: Journey Through Men's Health, Regenerative Medicine, and Vibrant Vitality
Well, proper beard. Yeah, I'm envious right, I want to go back to those good days you don't feel like quite the same as a man without a good beard on your face.
Speaker 3:You know, for as long as I can, remember for the longest time I had a goatee, but but I mean I've had a beard. I don't. I don't remember my dad ever not having a beard either before he passed.
Speaker 2:So there was a time it was stigma, but now I think it's, it's a norm, such a norm, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Such a color, but now I think it's such a norm. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So you guys are inspiring me, I need to let this go. You've got a good beard.
Speaker 2:You could definitely fill it out. Have you ever had a beard, a full beard?
Speaker 4:I have, but after a while just kind of get tired of maintaining it.
Speaker 2:So it really is work. It's just like is that my phone?
Speaker 3:It's what we're getting a phone call from Mal. Way to go, aaron. I'm on. Do not disturb. Why don't you, gentlemen, introduce yourselves? I'm Jeff Fox, I'm Jordan Harris, so Jeff and Jordan own Pure Life Medical and basically it's a one-stop tune-up shop for your body right. Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Great health and wellness? Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:See, all that time I was setting up, I actually am paying attention. He's a tagline jiggle guy.
Speaker 4:One-stop body shop. One-stop body shop.
Speaker 3:So tell us a little bit, guys. Tell us how you created it, tell us kind of the story behind this.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll tell you a little bit of that story too, because I've been working on this for a couple of years actually, and so we do have kind of a larger brand that's called Pure Life, but our clinics we have four clinics in Utah. Ours is individually owned here, but we kind of have sister-brother organizations, if you will Got it, and we're all slightly different, but we do the same general things in terms of health and wellness, natural healing being really important to all of that, helping people live their best lives. Testosterone, yeah, so hormone therapy, weight loss into advanced healing techniques and use of things like sound wave therapy and red light therapy and all of the things that have this incredible scientific basis for effectiveness. So in that sense, there's a lot of things that we can do in any one place, but we're actually the owners here in Cottonwood Heights, and so this is our baby. I like it.
Speaker 2:I like it a lot Demographically.
Speaker 3:I think it's an absolute slam dunk spot.
Speaker 2:We really love it Lots of great folks.
Speaker 3:I used to live just up the street and our office is just down the street so nice, great area. It used to live just up the street and our office is just down the street so great area. It was actually one of my favorite places to live was here in Tonwit Beautiful yeah Up on.
Speaker 4:Top of the.
Speaker 2:World.
Speaker 3:Drive.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yeah, Absolutely. That's a great place. Can't beat these views, that's for sure. Heck, no, you can't.
Speaker 3:So we decided to come remote. I'll give you guys a little back history here. Travis, on our real estate team, his wife actually works here and we got to talking and, as we told you, we try to do at least one mobile episode every single month and felt like this was like the perfect place, man, the perfect place to just come in and and find out more about this. My own personal experience I I get the testosterone pellets. Yes, so I drive clear to freaking north ogden, oh wow, to get them done at that. Northern. You probably know of them short little stocky dude northern, can't remember their name, but anyways, now that I know that you guys do that, this is quite a bit closer Quite a bit closer.
Speaker 2:I like it. You don't have to take off a day to go get it handled.
Speaker 3:Testosterone pellets are testosterone pellets right.
Speaker 4:Yes, there's really two big companies that make them and we really like we like the supplier that we work with, or just amazing. But one of the things that's really great about the specific type of pellets that we use is there is that what the testosterone is embedded in is plant-based and it's less likely to be extruded in other words, your body rejects it and then try and push it back out again.
Speaker 4:so it's got a patent on how it's done, so to try and decrease that ability to push it back out again, so the pellets are about that long. Yeah, they're actually smaller, but they often chain them together, but yours might have been.
Speaker 3:Mine that I have are about that long. How many do you think I have they put in every time For you? I would probably guess 14. Damn close, or about that long, how?
Speaker 1:many, how many do you think I have they put in every time for you? I would probably guess 14.
Speaker 3:damn close 16, 16.
Speaker 2:yeah, price is right rules is it because it's not, is it?
Speaker 3:well it's bored.
Speaker 2:They had to actually bump me up because it was the more he needs more manliness is that?
Speaker 1:it's. It's because he has so much manliness. He needs more. Yeah, let's dose this guy up yeah, they were. You can tell from your size, right, and the amount of muscle mass you have you're gonna need a lot of testosterone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, feel good, feel optimal so yeah, and guys, I mean, let's talk about this. So when I hit 30 years old, my testosterone went in the toilet like bad welcome to the club.
Speaker 4:Yep, and that weird yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1:We don't realize that it's happening, because very rarely do people actually test their blood work that will tell them exactly where their Testosterone levels are at well, and for me it was.
Speaker 3:I mean energy, sex drive, wellbeing in your mind, mental clarity.
Speaker 2:Mental clarity.
Speaker 3:It was a lot, so I started out doing the foamy shit that you'd rub on your shoulders. They probably don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2:I'll leave that one.
Speaker 3:They have the creams.
Speaker 1:But think about it. You're rubbing this cream on right. It's like oh, did I put enough on today, right, like? Or what if you forget one day?
Speaker 2:Or rubs off on your clothes.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Long sleeve shirts. You're going to experience this rollercoaster effect. It's not very sustainable.
Speaker 4:And if you need a lot, it's hard to absorb Exactly.
Speaker 3:And you've got to be conscious of of rubbing off on other people that don't need it Exactly and don't want it, Wives girlfriends right Like they do not want that testosterone.
Speaker 1:Right, that's where I was going to go, yeah, anyways, all of a sudden, the girlfriends are having beards, just like you guys, right, when they don't want it. Yeah, voice goes a little.
Speaker 3:So then I graduated to the shots and was getting basically I self shot once a week with one milliliter probably something like that, and that's still very and that stuff is like that's what I do.
Speaker 4:That stuff is like syrup yeah, like it's thick, thick, thick.
Speaker 3:I had I had to actually use I called it a loading needle, which was a bigger gauge needle, in order to get it into the thing. And then, of course, you don't just, it's not like a normal shot where you just slam it in At least I didn't or it hurt, yeah, and it would hurt for days. Yes, so you, you have to put it in slowly. The problem I found with that is you'd forget up and down and up and down.
Speaker 3:You know, when you first get it, you're like on fire and conquer the world, and then by the time you get to the end of it you're like yeah, you're back down to where you were before you were doing doing them at all.
Speaker 4:So we went on.
Speaker 3:actually, this is an interesting story. We went on a trip to Hawaii that uh that we basically want it from our brokerage for volume for the year for business, and while we were there, got to know some of the other agents in the brokerage and this couple, mark and Nikki, were talking about how they get these pellets. Mark was talking about about it, and so I dug into it deeper. That's why I'm going to North Ogden, or have been, because that's the first time I'd ever heard about that type of a process or anything about it, and I knew that he liked it and I wanted to go somewhere that I knew was safe. Yes, so that's my experience with it and I'll tell you it's world of difference. And then another really quick side note my wife going through menopause was a wreck. I mean ups and downs and and heat flashes and I mean you know, you guys hear it every day, all day, absolutely, and and she also gets the hormonal balance.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and, and it has been the best, I'm just telling you the best, the great thing is the stability of it Exactly Once you just put the pellet under your skin, then you have months ahead where you never have to think about it. You never have to miss a dose, you just have a steady release.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's like every six months for me or seven months.
Speaker 4:That's exactly right, you're just going to get exactly the dose you need pretty much for that entire period, until finally the pellets will be absorbed by the body.
Speaker 3:But that is a much better way to go than this kind of oh my gosh, sideways. Um, and you know, on my wife's side, I mean she was trying everything, guys, I mean she had gone to to specialists, I mean she was miserable, yeah, and just couldn't get anything that would work we have clients that come in all the time, females that are in that exact same situation, where they just don't feel like themselves right, are tired, they're rundown, have no energy.
Speaker 1:There that brain fog for women is huge. I think women are always smarter than men, so they can tell the brain fog much faster than we can oh no question. And so there's I'm thinking of this one lady in particular. She was like a brand new person. A week after getting her pellets she came back in and she was just had this glow in her face again. She was just like walking on air felt amazing, but yeah like it's been amazing for my wife.
Speaker 3:I'll just tell you guys good show. So let's talk a little bit more about some of the things that you do.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's just one layer of what you guys do. This is one little teeny tiny part of what you guys do Exactly.
Speaker 3:So let's talk about cold and hot. I've got it up.
Speaker 4:Absolutely Well. Cold and hot is great because it's great for well lots of applications. There's almost everything we do has both physical applications as well as almost mental health benefits that come along with that in terms of your brain chemistry, and so hot and cold is probably best known for things like weight loss, as well as because the shock proteins that can happen with both hot and cold.
Speaker 3:So let's explain what it is. It's the cold plunge, right.
Speaker 4:It's the cold plunge.
Speaker 1:And then into a sauna, infrared sauna. Yep, so do you?
Speaker 3:get in the cold plunge and then into a sauna, infrared sauna? Yep, so do you? Do you get in the cold plunge and then immediately go in the sauna, or vice versa?
Speaker 1:so you can get. You can do that. The only recommendation that we have is that you end on the cold plunge, because your body, so the reason we like the cold plunge is because it's a delayed release of that dopamine, right, so you're going to get that dopamine over the next 24 hours. So if you get into the infrared sauna after the cold plunge, you're not gonna get as much dopamine. Yeah, exactly, getting in that cold water activates your flight or fight response, so you start to shiver, you start to shake, right, and that's actually what helps to strip that brown adipose fat, right. So, great, great for your mental health, great for your physical health as well. But, yeah, we recommend ending on cold. So, yes, you can do cold.
Speaker 2:Get in sauna, back in cold all day, how many hours after the cold, as your body, in that reaction, that response mode? About three to four hours, yeah, so you're walking away Exactly Carrying away the cold, and you're feeling good, partly just because you defeated the cold.
Speaker 4:I've only done it once.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The hardest part is convincing yourself how good you're going to feel after you get in.
Speaker 3:That cold water, and how long do you stay in?
Speaker 1:Three to five minutes. Anything past five minutes, you'll get diminishing returns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was in Mexico on vacation right around Christmas time. We were actually there over Christmas and they had a spa that you could cold plunge, yeah, cold and hot.
Speaker 4:That's exactly right. So that's just one of the many things, okay. Yeah, cold and hot, that's exactly right. So that's just one of the many things, okay.
Speaker 3:So we talked cold and hot. We'll just move it along. We got metal aesthetics.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so the medical aesthetics. We tend to focus on the things that only a licensed physician can be able to do.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:So those would be things like facials and injections that have to be administered by a licensed physician. Botox so it'd be the Botox's Facials that include things like microneedling of amniotic fluids or PRP, and that's another common one. And you can also do facials with placental stem cells as well, and that's kind of the ultimate possible treatment because that's putting those brand new cells right into your skin.
Speaker 2:Regrow that wrinkle. Exactly, that makes sense.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it can really start to have a big impact. So those are the things that we tend to focus on, and let some of the other locations focus on more of the mid-range type of aesthetics, so we do the higher end aesthetics.
Speaker 3:So you guys obviously have your own in-house medical practitioner. I don't know what you call them.
Speaker 4:We've got several of them Okay and just a couple worth mentioning. So we have a nurse practitioner who really focuses most on our weight loss patients and our hormone patients. She also does a lot of care ketamine therapy, pain management, things like that. So that's kind of where she tends to shine and specialize, and she'll do the aesthetics as well. We also have another practitioner is also our medical director who's really an expert in more orthopedic pain management joint arthritis type of issues And's especially good. He's treated thousands of patients with stem cell treatments. Okay, we so we have all of our own protocols on how to do that, on how to do that. Well, in some sense, you know, if you were to, almost anyone could inject a stem cell. The question is whether or not you can maximize its impact for the next few months while those cells are living, they're adapting, they're helping you heal, and so we have really one of the best when it comes to things like that. So different specialties by our practitioners, and that's just a couple of things of well very cool.
Speaker 3:Okay, on to the next one, red light.
Speaker 1:Very cool. Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 3:Red Light, red Light, red Light therapy is absolutely my favorite machine here in the clinic.
Speaker 1:Really, if you guys haven't tried it yet, you'll have to try it when we're done with this.
Speaker 1:But seriously, red Light helps with so much things, so it has so many applications, but primarily for us big guys, it helps reduce muscle pain, decreases inflammation and increases circulation in the body. Are you guys familiar with Dom's Delayed onset muscle soreness after you work out? Okay, one of the best studies that they have is that pain can be reduced by 50% just by using the red light bed. Wow, but for females, they also love it because of the body contouring, right. So these lights actually Penetrate our fat cells and help to loosen and break them up. So we put you on a red light machine and then we throw you on our shake plate and you kind of jiggle that fat through. It also helps activate your lymphatic system, right, just to get that water moving throughout our systems. Wow, awesome, awesome stuff. They actually have a red light bed up at the hospital for their skin cancer patients.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Because it helps develop collagen naturally in our skin. Wow so cancer patients because it helps develop collagen naturally in our skin. So women like that. So it tightens everything up.
Speaker 4:Dr.
Speaker 4:It's good for almost anything there's very few things that you couldn't use the red light for. Because what it's doing is it's driving that light energy. Only the healthy stuff, all the negative stuff is screened out like ultraviolet. It drives that directly into your cell. That then activates your mitochondria. You produce that directly into your cell. That then activates your mitochondria, you produce more atp, your cell is more active. It's healing itself. That's that's literally what's happening by putting that energy and that light into your cell. Because what is death? It's when your cell can no longer function and no longer has energy. So, uh, it literally. There's very few things that almost can't help with, but some of the things that are the most well known for is the pain relief, and that can include pain from DOMS.
Speaker 3:So is it immediate, or is it something you've gotta do over a period of time?
Speaker 1:So it's just like a multivitamin, right Like? If you take it once a month, you're probably not gonna see very many effects, so consistency is always gonna be key. I will say this, though a couple weeks ago, do you remember I had that migraine coming on? Yeah, hopped in the red light bed, came out, it was gone.
Speaker 3:Oh my God. So what do you recommend for somebody coming in how many times, how often?
Speaker 1:Depends on what they're trying to treat, but one to three times a week is plenty.
Speaker 2:Okay, Is it even known as a migraine remedy? I have friends that have. I'm going to be pushing them this way for that specifically.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing Each person is different, especially when it comes to migraine, right. So there's tension, there's stress, right. There's different types of migraines, but for me, it helped immensely. But when it comes to migraine, if you can get any type of relief, that's so much better, or you?
Speaker 2:know what? Thank God, I don't get the exact thing that my daughter does.
Speaker 4:Absolutely Okay Dr, something like that, dr. Absolutely Dr, okay Dr. And so remember too that it's also increasing your circulation and decreasing your inflammation, and that's why that is so much of what ails us, dr, right, dr.
Speaker 3:Is inflammation Dr.
Speaker 4:Inflammation Dr, and red light helps you decrease that inflammation, and so that's why it has such a wide spread of applications.
Speaker 2:Dr, and it's body wipe, because I haven't seen your machine, but it's like a sun tanning bed, exactly it makes sense to me because fat cells part of the problem isn't there's low circulation. By penetrating with that light it actually well, you're, but at least what I'm envisioning is it brings, it, vitalizes the area, wakes it up. Aaron, he said we could jiggle it off, did you hear that I'm going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 3:Said, he breaks it up, and then we jiggle it off, I'm going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 1:We're going to film you guys jiggling to post it on the video.
Speaker 2:That's all he needs, yeah.
Speaker 1:So arthritis, nerve pain, muscle, skeletal pain, right, any type of pain, those are the big ones and a lot of people just feel better to psychological benefits for anxiety, depression, stuff like that.
Speaker 4:So just consistently giving yourself light, I mean, think of it. That just makes complete sense. Everything is light, everything living on Earth is light eventually, and we're just driving that directly into the cell.
Speaker 1:Especially coming out of these winter months here in. Utah.
Speaker 2:Holy cow, we're all covered up. We're all covered up.
Speaker 1:We need our vitamin D. Yeah, got to get it Dr.
Speaker 3:Vitamin D. Yeah got to get it Dr.
Speaker 4:Okay, prp, dr, prp, I'll try and explain that one. That's something again that the licensed physicians need to be able to do. So, PRP is just the process of we take a blood draw and what we do is we spin that down and process that blood and concentrate all of the healing components of it, the platelets, the natural stem cells that you do have running inside of your blood. We all have some of them. We just don't have high concentrations of them.
Speaker 4:That's the only problem, or else we'd all be fixed and off to the races every time but we still have them and if we can concentrate them and all of the other healing properties of the blood, then we can re-inject that into a site that we want to heal. So it's driving all of your body's healing stuff. We're just helping your body get all of those healing factors straight to the site.
Speaker 3:So PRP can be used from your own production. So it's almost taking from the good and getting it to the bad.
Speaker 4:That's right, we're just relocating it and if you think of it that way, taking your healing factors and relocating it and it's really commonly used in pain and healing type of applications and so if you've had an injury, if you've got problems with your joints shoulders my hell, I need.
Speaker 3:I needed you guys about a month ago because I did a remodel on on and this 57 year old body was pissed off.
Speaker 1:I bet. Here's the thing, prp, which stands for platelet rich plasma, is going to become so mainstream, because it really is your body's natural way of healing. We draw your blood.
Speaker 1:Sounds like something that the celebrities would do Super fast. Well, you hear it all the time in the NBA and NFL oh, he just got a PRP treatment right. We draw your blood, we put it right back in your knee, your ankle, your shoulder, your hip and it just gives your body's natural healing properties to whatever joint is struggling and helps it heal that much faster. Wow, it's great.
Speaker 4:And it can also be used in aesthetic applications because PRP facials are actually a very common thing as well. So and then, what we can distinguish and we'll probably talk about this here in a second then is how that differs from stem cells. In quotes and when we usually talk about stem cells, yes, you have your own, and PRP has your own stem cells in them. The only trouble is that for me I'm 57 and my stem cells are 57 years old and they're not as semi and life-giving as others, not as sprite as some of the others and not as concentrated, and so we can actually supplement that with placental stem cells.
Speaker 2:They go limping in to get taken care of.
Speaker 4:supplement that with placental stem cells. They go limp in to get taken care of, so, and that is really amazing stuff. So we can either wait or we can talk about that.
Speaker 3:now let's go to Soundwave.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let's do that. So Soundwave is literally using exactly what it is Soundwave, some kind of shockwave, but that sounds scary. So Soundwave, what it does is it penetrates beneath the skin and it creates a little bit of micro trauma in, say, a tendon or a tissue. So again you come in complaining of this is hurting, this is, you know, needs help. Sound waves can help by creating irritation at a very specific location beneath the skin, wherever that injury is. And so what happens? When your body gets that inflammation or that little bit of damage and it's just micro, it's very small, it's all right your body starts pulling it back in. So again, it's another way of re-concentrating all your body's healing to that site and speeding up that process. So Soundwave, again, all these have just incredible histories as far as effectiveness and scientific studies and things like that, but this one is just completely non-invasive. We don't even have to draw your blood. You literally, we literally can. Just it just sounds like a little click happening.
Speaker 3:Do you combine it with others, like say the red light?
Speaker 4:That's actually kind of the specialty we actually will combine multiple things and so say, for example, someone has ED or something like that and some of these things are, you know, and people might well. I might have heard of Soundwave for ED. Well, that's great, because it does have a very good application there. But what we'll do is we're going to marry that with you know, basically another five other modalities that also have the similar impact. So some places might treat your ED with just that one thing and that can be helpful, but different people are gonna respond differently, and so we're gonna marry that with really four or five other different things.
Speaker 2:So you're exactly right. The big thing I'm hearing is you guys I mean you have multiple approaches. You look at all of these modalities, but you look at it from different vantage points and have all kinds of different solutions.
Speaker 4:Exactly so. We're going to get you the sound, we're going to get you the blood factors, we're going to get you the oxygen. We're going to get you the lights. We're going to get you all the things that are helping your self-function, and so we're talking about all this in terms of Like I said, a tune-up, exactly, and the way we talked about it so far.
Speaker 4:It's almost like you're coming in sick and so we're going to help you. Yes, absolutely. That's a great application, but all of these things also have kind of age maintenance. It's keeping you from aging too quickly, so it's anti-aging applications as well. Wow, and so keep that in mind.
Speaker 3:Can you make a guy like me look younger?
Speaker 4:That's right, we can bring it.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just mind. A lot of people know you make a guy younger, that's right we can bring it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this stuff slow down that aging process.
Speaker 3:Yeah aging right his cellular dysfunction that's a holy grail man. We're sitting in the Holy Grail, yeah that's so for you.
Speaker 1:When you played football, what would they do when you'd hurt a knee or a shoulder? There was a trainer.
Speaker 2:There would be isin heat. There was also stem therapy, so shock therapy, localized shock therapy.
Speaker 3:In my day and age and some massage, I guess.
Speaker 1:Massage as well. Massage is good too. Did they ever do like the cortisone shots to numb you or the steroid shots? I never got to where I had to have it. Good for you, that's good. Oftentimes, that's the first thing that we turn to is oh, I just want to numb the pain, but it's not necessarily if you're numbing the pain. You're still exactly. You're going to do more damage in there.
Speaker 2:Cortisol, it totally is a band-aid.
Speaker 1:But also damage in there it can. Yeah, that's the thing, it is viscous, it's hard to run through the joint right and stuff. Again, it has its place. Right, if someone is in excruciating pain, right, that totally makes sense. But if you're just looking to add years to your knees, right and shoulder and back, our sound wave and our red light are going to give that to you in a natural holistic way. Right, we can send, do a prp treatment and that sound wave treatment and that knee is just going to feel so much better yeah, in that other case they're just injecting you back out exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's numb you up and get you back on the field.
Speaker 3:Well, jeff would appreciate this because we're the same age. Back in my day. They just give you a salt tablet and boost your ass back out on the field.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like suck it up, don't, don't, don't be a wimp.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right Okay. Well the technology is invented after you.
Speaker 3:Right, right, that's true, yeah, hormones.
Speaker 4:All right. So hormones yeah, we did mention those a little bit before, and um you you can kind of see on the screen I think that you're broadcasting too is just how steady that pellet therapy really is and how it just keeps you at a pace.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we kind of already talked about this one, so we didn't talk about that one.
Speaker 4:But the nice thing is too, it has I should mention this too, because we didn't talk about it before it's not just helping you have more energy in your life, getting your libido back, feeling better about yourself, things like that, decreasing anxiety has all these different kinds of things. But there's an additional benefit to having your hormones balanced, and that is it actually wards off specific kinds of major deteriorations in your body. So cardiovascular disease, coronary artery disease in particular, is lower in people who keep their hormones optimized. Alzheimer's is lower in people who keep their hormones optimized. Alzheimer's is lower in people who keep their things optimized. Osteoporosis is lower in people who keep their hormones optimized, especially for women. Yep, certain cancers are lowered in people who keep their hormones optimized, and so those are really important to remember too.
Speaker 4:It's not just making you feel better, it's literally a little bit feel better. It's literally a little bit like an insurance for how you age from here on out and what tends to develop coming next. It's better to keep that body in balance in the first place and fix that hormone imbalance and again, when we were growing up, that's just aging, that's just life. Get over it and deal with it. But it a little bit like saying you know you're hungry, get over it and deal with it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's so fixable no, you right you go and you eat and you get what you're deficient in, and hormone therapy is literally nothing more than that, because we're all going to get hungry, we're all going to lose our hormones, and if we can just keep them balanced and keep them higher, it's going to make us happier. And then, here and now, we're going to protect us against disease and that, yeah, and it all relates to weight loss too, because you're going to have weight gain when your, when your hormones are out of whack let me ask you this.
Speaker 3:So I'm noticing, the older I get, that afternoons I start getting the depleted energy kind of brain fog it's. I don't know if I call it brain fogs, like you said, women are way smarter than us and anyways, the bottom line is, is I feel myself just like I'll start eating candy because I'd miss, looking for the rush, mm-hmm, you know, to get my energy back up, yeah, so what would you tell a guy like me for energy, okay well, energy in that brain fog, where you just feel like you're, just like your brain's tired.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we need to get you repellent. No, just kidding, but that is one of it, because I am due for my blood test, by the way. Yeah, and that's actually worth. That would be one of the best things to check Cause again, it has this whole body uh impact. But as far as afternoon lagging, there is other things like your blood sugar levels and stuff that could affect that that we probably should also be looking at.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:And so that's where we would just match you up with the doctor, have the doctor really kind of figure out what's going on there, and so that would really be their call with the I say doctor, but our practitioners- Well, and that happens to be a solution, did you like how I led you right into that, and I didn't even know I was?
Speaker 3:because the next one was medical diagnostics, oh, okay. Well, that's a really good one.
Speaker 4:So obviously we're going to be able to test your blood, but we're really going to start with some biometric testing and almost everybody that comes through we're going to run a biometric scan. It uses four different kinds of electrical tests to not only look at your body composition but also to look at how your heart is functioning, whether or not your circulatory system is functioning well, and we can also see things that might be problem areas in your spine, in your vertebrae and also in your brain. We can see fatigue and things like that in your brain. So we really have everyone do that. We can also do multiple scans and view things over time and see whether or not you're going up, do things are getting better, things of that nature. So everyone goes through that.
Speaker 4:And then if you have certain symptoms that require blood testing, of course we're going to take that next step into the blood testing phase, especially for hormones, the only way to know for sure. But we're not just going to look at your testosterone either. We're going to kind of do a broad panel to find out what's happening in your chemistry in general. But of course the hormones are going to be a key part of that.
Speaker 3:Dr. Yeah, you know, I mean when they did my first blood work, like they took I don't know how many vials, but it was a lot, and my wife actually printed off the results. Yes, and I'm not kidding you guys, it was a stack of papers that thick. That's amazing, all the blood work they did.
Speaker 4:I love that because it just gets a comprehensive view of what's going on and they can see other kinds of triggers. You know you're often going to see people with thyroid problems, for example.
Speaker 1:Right Well that's a slightly, it's related but still a separate issue.
Speaker 4:And so it needs to be treated in a slightly different way. So there might be multiple things. So that base is going to be hormones, but we're going to see other things going on potentially too, and that's something that the provider will be able to talk with you about. And we're on the verge of doing a couple other different kinds of testing too. We haven't quite rolled it out, but almost any day now. So we're going to do much more in the DNA testing world, because that is no, we can already do that today actually, but we're going to start doing it in a little bit different way. So DNA testing is one of those, but also microbiome testing, a lot of people. We don't know what's going on inside our gut.
Speaker 1:It's the most mysterious part of what's going on inside of our gut, dr Justin Marchegiani.
Speaker 4:Gut health yeah, exactly, dr Randall Bell, it's the most mysterious part of what's going on, and so we're about to introduce microbiome testing as well, and the nice thing, too, about this is we'll be able to aggregate those tests using, basically, a mobile app. We can get a snapshot of who you are, what your microbiome looks like, what your DNA looks like, what your blood looks like. Now, knowing all those things, how?
Speaker 3:do you live life? It's all pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 4:And now we can use algorithms to say, okay, well, you probably should avoid this food, you should eat more of those and actually be very directive in giving great health advice to people. So that's something we're working on. We haven't quite rolled it out yet, but we be rolling that heartburn since I was a kid.
Speaker 3:I take a heartburn pill every single day, and by noon. If I don't take it, I'm getting Harvard.
Speaker 4:Wow, that crazy yeah yes and yeah, all right one stem cells, stem cells, well that sells is a good one right we actually just had your guys call again.
Speaker 1:He recently had a back surgery and he's looking for additional help in getting that back right. So stem cells are.
Speaker 3:I know he's struggled with it for a long time.
Speaker 1:He has struggled, just had his surgery. Yep, it's such a great guy. Couldn't have happened to a better guy either. Right, we love Travis. But stem cells are undifferentiated, pluripotent cells that once they're entered into the body, your body tells them exactly where they need to go and they can become whatever your body needs, whether it's muscle, joint, tendon, cartilage, bone, they can become any type of cells that your body can produce there. It's literally the future of modern medicine. Wow, very, very cool stuff. Absolutely. Yeah, we do that here.
Speaker 1:Jeff had mentioned previously our medical director. His name is Steven Cox. He is an expert in stem cell therapy. He has developed a fantastic protocol to help keep those stem cells enough time to do and focus what they need to do. If you think about it, a back injury, like a herniated disc, that's a serious injury. Right, there's a lot of stuff going on there that needs to be repaired. So these stem cells they need their time to focus on to get that done. But we love the stem cells here, have seen such great, great results, so just last week, example, we did back injections to help with that surgical.
Speaker 4:So post-surgery is one application of that. They're also something that's really nice pre-surgery or if surgery is just not the right thing for you. So we did treatments as well on somebody who really has bone-on-bone hip problems.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked to an older person, exactly.
Speaker 4:And surgery is just too risky to do a hip replacement at an older age and things like that so they're looking for some way to help relieve just the agonizing pain and misery that they feel because they can't really get around and it's just really disruptive to their lives. So, rather than surgery, obviously this is something that we can do that has some hope of actual regeneration. It's one of the only things you can do to really get regeneration of lost tissues.
Speaker 2:So I have a nag or something, it makes sense to come in here and go hey, let's talk about it Exactly right.
Speaker 4:But the other thing too is just a lot of people will talk to well, I'm supposed to go get my knee replaced sometime soon. Well, that's a big commitment. You can't come back from it, and sometimes you need it. That's fine. When you need it, you need it. But if you can either put that off for five years, 10 years or maybe not have it at all, the stem cell therapy is one of the few things that can possibly help you put off that type of surgery. So our medical director is actually going to be giving a talk on that and other issues this coming Wednesday.
Speaker 1:May 1st. May 1st, yeah, 6.30 here at our clinic, 6.30 here in the clinic, and he'll be speaking on what these applications are. We could bring some people, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have several people I'm thinking about that. I'd love to bring out Love to have guests.
Speaker 4:We're inviting anyone in the community who wants to come and can hear from somebody who really knows how to do this stuff in the right way, and so he can talk about, kind of where it works. There's, there's. It's not going to work on everything. There's certain places where it may not work, but he'll know exactly what those places are. But um, so anyway, that's just what's exciting to be able to see that help.
Speaker 1:Do you guys play pickleball by chance? So I want to share my stem cell story. This is about five years ago, right? I was playing pickleball with my wife. I swear I wish this story was bad. I could cover the whole court.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this guy's like seven feet tall, and if I was seven feet I'd be in the NBA. I'm only six, seven, but yeah, it feels like that Roy D Mercer would say how big a boy are you?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm a big boy, so I was out playing pickleball with the wife I go to, I hear a pop in my foot.
Speaker 2:It was your foot Dr. No, I wish Crushed it, right.
Speaker 1:So I hear the pop. I go to the doctor, get the MRI. He's like yep, you've got a grade three tear in your perioneal tendon right, that's the tendon that's responsible for your foot not going like this wiggling back and forth right. And so he says we got to do surgery. Surgery involves breaking the bones in your foot, reattaching the tendon, resetting the bones, and you're in a wheelchair for 12 months. Sounds awesome, 12 freaking months. Mind you.
Speaker 1:My wife we had just gotten married, like our second year to marriage she was pregnant with our first kid and I'm like I cannot do that to my wife Like she'll literally have two babies on her hand. Yeah, two babies, right. So I start doing some research and I find this stem cell company. I go to their seminar, I learn more about it. I end up getting this stem cell shot, right. I'm in a walking boot for two months Two months, mind you. And at this time I'm 6'7", 320, right. I hadn't lost as much weight yet, right? So there's a lot of pressure on that foot. After two months I take off the walking boot foot's good to go no pain mobility's all the way back.
Speaker 1:I go back to my doctor and he's like I want to see the MRI to do it. He gets the MRI. That tendon is completely healed. Wow, amazing stuff.
Speaker 3:And I'm like, well, how can you guys don't do this? That obviously was your entrance into this, exactly.
Speaker 2:One application.
Speaker 1:Just one application? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:So what would you guys say to the naysayers? I mean there's always naysayers, there's always. I mean my sister actually does the same exact. She has a clinic down in Arizona, oh nice, but there's always those people I've heard, I've heard mixed reviews about stem cells and I know my mom, I think my mom has actually done some stem cell. She's, she's got major mental stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's 80 that's a great question. So, first and foremost, we love our relationship with our supplier, right? They're actually local here in Utah, so we know the type of quality stem cells that we're getting right. So that's what I would say to the naysayers Well, what type of stem did you get? Where did it come from? All of our stem cells come from umbilical cord and placental, from pre-planned c-sections, right? So these are first-time mothers giving birth and it's a pre-planned c-section because the c-section is less trauma than a traditional birth, right? They also do a health, so do they just?
Speaker 1:opt into that. They opt into it. Yep, they. They're willing to donate it to it. Yeah, and the lab actually makes a donation to a charity of their choice. Very cool, yeah, very cool stuff. But they do a health screening three generations up. So the birth mother's parents, grandparents and great, great grandparents Wow. The other nice thing and I don't know how political you guys are, whatever, but I personally love it these donors have never touched a COVID vaccine or shot ever vaccine or shot ever.
Speaker 4:right just screen for all sorts of diseases, so many things, etc.
Speaker 1:Things like, wow, yeah, so they really carefully serious.
Speaker 4:They're very serious, yeah, about right, about who they'll exactly yeah, and we know those stem cells are going to arrive live too, and because they're viable problems sometimes with other suppliers that they don't actually arrive alive. That's a good point.
Speaker 1:one of the things they do prior to shipping is they will pull out a sample of the stem and test it to make sure the stem cells are still viable. Yeah, because they are cryogenically frozen right and so once they're shipped here we do, we thaw them in preparation for the procedure. But yeah, they're viable, they're moving. There's over a billion cells Inside the vial of stem. Yeah, it's amazing stuff, wow.
Speaker 4:And as far as naysayers, I mean, no one is saying that this is the be all and end all of everything. So, yeah, if people are overstating-.
Speaker 3:I did call you the Holy.
Speaker 4:Grail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. High marks to live up to, for sure.
Speaker 4:Everything has limits and everything has applications. So if someone is going out there saying, yes, I have depression, I'm just going to take stem cell, well, that's a pretty weak linkage. I'm not saying it couldn't have an impact, but you don't want to be making promises about something like that.
Speaker 3:So I've heard if you're bone on bone, that stem cell can't help you. Is that true or not?
Speaker 1:So that is not true. If you're depressed because your hip hurts and you can't get up or walk, cause your life is miserable, absolutely. That's what. That's what for sure, Totally. We have a lot of ways to tackle that.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying that I cannot promise you that the stem cell is going to fix that.
Speaker 1:Right, that's that's a crazy promise to answer your question, the gentleman that was bone on bone with his hip literally 15 minutes after. So we did his stem cell shot, then we put him in our red light bed. He was like I swear the pain is going away. Right, the stem cells respond to pain activators.
Speaker 1:So he's this is a. It'll be a week out. On Wednesday he's coming back and he's going to do a follow-up PRP treatment, follow-up sound wave treatments Again, red light bed I'd really like to follow up and find out what if it really truly did and does help him.
Speaker 3:And here's what I would say too, Because bone on bone is bone on bone. It is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it's the hardest thing in the world to deal with. And again, even in all the conversations with him, we're saying we cannot promise you anything, right, because you really can't, because every body is different, but in terms of things that have any hope for you, it's kind of the only thing left, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, if you really face it.
Speaker 1:surgeries are not guaranteed Stem cells or surgery.
Speaker 3:You know, I had shoulder surgery because I had a bone spur that was hitting a nerve that sucked. So, going to the surgery, during the surgery, and I didn't even know they were doing this, they actually disconnected my bicep because I guess there's not enough room for them to go up in and do what they've got to do. Oh, wow. Anyways, the long of the short is and and I'll take my blame on this as well, because I wasn't the greatest patient for follow-up and and and therapy PT, pt after and all that I went I did, but I didn't know that they had actually severed my bicep. Wow. So today my bicep has re-separated and has bunched in a ball right here. So my point being is is that surgery isn't a guarantee either?
Speaker 4:Right Nothing. There's literally nothing that you can promise that it will ever have a 100% result. So, yeah, you can often put too much expectation into something and our provider is incredibly careful, honestly, he does multiple conversations with people and he can just as easily say you know what? I don't think this is right for you. Because's a lot of money good that the probability is high for you right, and I'm gonna tell you that right up front. It's just not a good likely candidate hi how are you?
Speaker 4:there's places where it's been shown to work well and others where it's it's you know weak evidence.
Speaker 3:So all righty. Well, we're at 42 minutes, if you can believe that. That's amazing, do you?
Speaker 4:want me.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just put up.
Speaker 2:One thing I want to say so the part that gives me confidence is how considerate, how approachable, I would feel comfortable coming here.
Speaker 4:I would too. I love it.
Speaker 2:That's important because when you're staring down this list of things that could be potentially going wrong, because as we all age, things are slipping, things are happening.
Speaker 3:Jordan had to step out because we actually had a client walk in.
Speaker 2:Yes, we had someone walk in, that's exactly right. It can be scary.
Speaker 3:It can be embarrassing.
Speaker 2:Health going downhill is scary.
Speaker 3:So I've got the Pure Life Steps to Peak Health Up. That's your big chart thing. So this is a big overview, that's your big chart thing. Yeah, that's a big overview.
Speaker 4:It's just really an overview of our philosophy and kind of our range of services and we we kind of start on the bottom there of that graph, yeah, with purple testing, you know, because a lot of times, you know, it's all a lot of times just covering symptoms or we can't help identifying the problem. Look, let's just try and see if we can get to the bottom of what's going on here, and so testing is really important to us, and then from there we kind of have this set of gradations of things, testing is responsible.
Speaker 2:What's that it's responsible?
Speaker 4:Absolutely. We've got to know what's going on.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah giving you interventions without knowing would be weird.
Speaker 4:You know, that just doesn't make any sense. And so we talked about kind of the range of testing that that we're able to do, but also that'll be growing and expanding. So we're really excited about that. Um, and then it starts to go to well. What can I do to really reduce my aging, make me feel better, really feel better, look better? Those are the, those are the things that people really want to feel. And so what do you got? What do you do? All right, so one of the first things on that scale, then, is going to be essentially weight loss, because that will tank your health faster than everything, and you're not going to feel good about yourself, so it affects everything in your body. So obviously, that's something we have to think about, worry about and help people with, help them get there. And so we have not only weight loss peptides, which are kind of the hot thing that a lot of people talk about.
Speaker 3:What about Ozempic and these shots? The?
Speaker 4:Ozempics and stuff like that, and the common names for them are semaglutide and terzepatide. They work really well, they've got great research base. They don't always work for everybody, and so we do have other ways of trying to approach that, and sometimes people have a little bit of side effect and maybe they don't want to take it anymore or something like that. And so because it can sometimes make the gut feel kind of strange and weird, so we do have some other options on what you can do. But we got to get hold of our health, because if we're overweight we're going to be sicker, we're going to feel worse about ourselves. So, anyway, that's why it's kind of like there, you know, kind of at the base of all of this is because it affects everything else. But then after that we also put hormones down at that base too, because again, those hormones are going to affect whether or not you are gaining weight, they're going to affect your psychology, they're going to affect your physical performance in so many ways. And so these are just basic things that you really got to tackle at that level and then kind of moving up the stages, if you will, towards peak health. We're increasing the types of interventions and so maybe we're starting to tackle much more specific problems so we can bring all the natural healing stuff like the red light, like the sound wave, like oxygen therapies, like things like that that again are basic to your whole, your physiology. Those are incredible natural healing factors. They're not surgery, they're not drugs. You know, the longer you can stay away from that the better. Someday it may be required, and that's fine. But most times we rush there too quickly and there's better ways to do this, and so the natural healing. And then you can get into the more advanced healing we talked about with stem cells and things like that.
Speaker 4:Then there's who else? Are you, you know your mental health, things like that? Then there's a who else, who else are you, you know your mental health, stuff like that. And that's why you know we have a couple things one that's really super low intervention here in the clinic. It's called the neuro visor. It kind of helps people with their psychology getting out of getting out of their heads, getting out of their ruts, and helping to kind of regrow, regenerate some of their brain function. There's some. So there's some non intervention ways, but there's some non-intervention ways. But there's also things that are more deeper, psychological, I guess, which is like the ketamine therapy that again can help you process through difficult things that have happened in your life. And so there's the mental health portion of that that is also really important to us, and then, kind of at the top, is the aesthetics. Now, maybe that's down at the bottom.
Speaker 3:Don't forget the sexual health. Maybe that's everywhere, oh sexual health.
Speaker 2:yeah, we haven't talked about that. That's a really good one, tom. You're all weight loss hormones and other that should be there I was just gonna say I love that sexual health is at the top.
Speaker 4:I leave it at the top. Yeah, problem per se, but when you do, the nice thing is there actually are things to do about it. Now, you might have tackled that back down at the hormone level. You might have actually taken care of it Now. Sometimes, though, it might require more intervention.
Speaker 4:So, again, we talked about the five or six different types of interventions, so we're going to put and we're just going to really put that together and that's not just for men, but there's women, too, have sexual dysfunction as well, and so you've probably heard about things like P-Shot, o-shot Yep, those are actually brand names, and so we just call them vitality shots here, for men and women, but they're the exact same principle, and that is again, but it's healing around your organs, basically so that you can get better sensitivity, better performance, things like that, and most of those are done through a PRP treatment. That's what a PNOS shot actually is. So it's a PRP that we talked about before, right Injected into those private parts, which sounds scary, but it's not that bad actually, so I've had it done.
Speaker 3:I'll take your word for it done because I do, I do everything.
Speaker 4:Our clinic does. Yeah, and so it's not that. Yeah, it's not as scary. I'm scared of shots in my wiener dude. It sounds scary and I'll be honest, I you know, I'm like, oh, I don't want to think about this. And then you do it and you're like, oh, that wasn't that thing so.
Speaker 4:But the same is true for women. We can do those exact same things for women. There's also things like, you know, a large prostate, urinary incontinence, things like that that a lot of modalities can really help with. And so, yeah, if you're unhappy in that area, that's part of your life.
Speaker 4:You know you have to be happy in that area as well. So we're prepared to help tackle that one too. And now I don't know if it's peak or not or if it's all throughout all of this, but just loving your look, feeling like you're looking as good as you can A lot of those things we talked about can help you look better. But then there's just the more generic or well-known aesthetic kinds of practices that will happen, and again we do the ones that are a little bit more higher intervention, like you know, say, we're not going to just do a facial that's, or a face scrub or something like that. That's all good, but that's probably better done in a different location. What we're going to do is do the stuff that's really medical in nature, and so it's going to be using those advanced healing factors in. You know, things like facials or hair restoration or things like that, getting all of those regrowth things that we talked about really focused on those other areas so it can be your hair it can be whatever.
Speaker 2:I know we talked offline a little bit, but all of this has stem cell applications as well.
Speaker 4:You do, and those are actual areas that have good application because, again, it is a cellular growth issue and so, yes, you can choose to do that with a PRP application, or you could add in the placental stem cells as well as another possible layer to that, maybe increasing amping up the power of that. All of them are good and that's the nice thing is you almost can add stem cells where it makes sense. And there's certain times, you know, of course we're not gonna say it does everything, but there are great, there's a lot of places where the showing great research outcomes.
Speaker 3:so wow, that was a lot.
Speaker 4:That's our stair step of peak health wellness.
Speaker 2:Long and short.
Speaker 3:if something's not feeling right, looking right, I mean they've got it sounds like you've got something for everything, at least to try to figure it out.
Speaker 4:And our practitioners are going to get after it. Okay, one more time.
Speaker 3:When is your where your practitioner is going to be talking to everybody?
Speaker 4:Your presentation, so this will be May 1st, that's this coming Wednesday night. We're here at our location in 1844 East Fort Union Boulevard in Cottonwood Heights, so we'll be speaking at 630. So come and join us and we will probably try and repeat these, maybe even monthly if possible, because it's going to be talked about a lot more, since some of the regulatory issues have changed a little bit in the state of Utah, so there's gonna be a lot of people interested in it and we want to make our experts available to the public to come and hear what you know what's new, what's hot, what works, what's not maybe.
Speaker 3:Maybe somebody in a group setting is scared to ask a question.
Speaker 4:Somebody does, and they get an answer, we'll just get a private consultation. If that's the case, if they don't want to talk about it openly, publicly, I thought you had to pop on a plane and head to Mexico. That's commonly the case, because what we see, that's what we visually see. We see advertisements for stem cell packages in other places. Well, they're actually completely legal, but you can't really talk about them that publicly. Up until this point in time it's always been kind of kept a little under the radar. But they are available, they're all produced here, all the research is going on here. It's just that in another country they could advertise but there. And one last thing that other countries do which it really can't do in the US is is they will take their stem cells, their life stem cells, and they'll actually replicate them and grow them in petri dishes, and that's not allowed in the United States. We just use directly harvested, actual stem cells.
Speaker 3:That sounds better than having them.
Speaker 4:Than manufacturing new stem cells. Right, I'm not saying it's good or bad, but either way they're the same cells, so they're getting. If you go to another country and get them, they're probably getting the stem cells out of the United States anyway. So you don't need to go traveling to find this stuff, you just need to come to people.
Speaker 3:You just need to come to this address, right here you need to talk to people who do regenerative medicine. Yeah, need to come to this address right here to talk to people who do regenerative medicine. Yeah, that's what it comes down to. Yep, wow, that was a lot of really cool stuff. That's a lot. Yeah, jeff, we appreciate it a ton again. Your company is pure life medical. Yep, and uh, right here on on uh union park 7200 south, or union for union 7200 south, 18, 1844 East, 44 East, yep.
Speaker 3:All right, guys. Well, thank you so so much for joining us. If you have questions yeah, if you have questions about this awesome topic we talked about today just give us a shout and we'll put you in touch with Jeff or Jordan and you can come and ask your own questions.
Speaker 2:Wonderful. If you're interested in coming to this, I'm going to be here. Yeah, awesome May 1st. We'd love to have you yeah.
Speaker 4:The more the better, because this is really useful information and it may or may not be right for any particular point you know one person at one point in time but you should know about it because it really is a powerful intervention.
Speaker 3:Love it. All right people. Thank you so much for joining us here on Beards on the Street in our little mobile episode, and we will see you next Friday.